Anyone else into Industrial Music here?

[TatianaSummer]

Anyone else in here into industrial and cyber music? Went to BarSinister last year and looking forward to go there again in a few weeks, it was awesome! Anyone been there in Los Angeles?

[up_for_it]

I'm into industrial, but am not from LA. Anything in particular you listen to? I like everything from Pig & NIN to KMFDM and Front 242. Also into lots of breakbeat and jungle.

[hornybastard]

Yea I love that shit. I'm a musician myself and make some dark music. I used to go to bar sinister here and there the last time I went was a little over 2 years ago though. I'd be up for going again soon. Das Bunker is pretty good for industrial/goth/cyber/dark. I'm up for meeting up with you next time you go.

[Willie Escalade]

Anyone else in here into industrial and cyber music? Went to BarSinister last year and looking forward to go there again in a few weeks, it was awesome! Anyone been there in Los Angeles?

Not a fan of the music, per se, but I don't mind listening to it. I only know of Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails.

As for Bar Sinister, yes I have been and had a great time. A friend of mine was married there...while he and she were hanging from hooks. VERY interesting...

[Jamie French]

Check out my band here: http://www.gravityeuphonic.net

[Cecil Rhodes]

I like some of it . Although this group is not exactly Industrial, I like The Crux Shadows .

[TempestTS]

Some of my stuff From my bands Mercy Kill and Apocalypse Theater also do Harsh Reality although it tends to be more on the Metal side of things

I will be out on tour with all 3 bands this summer catch us if you can.


Apox : Alien Clique - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilBAYHkqYUY)

Apocalypse Theatre-Codename: Bunny - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81yA9BVXbZ8&feature=relmfu)

Apocalypse Theatre -Auto Cannibal 2003 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mliftL9yTkg&feature=relmfu)

Harsh Reality Repulsive Magnet - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcZLItYcqZ0)

[noble1337]

huge fan of NIN...but thats about it

[irvin66]

Yep i'am fan of Rammstein!! :rock2

[alpha2117]

Rammstein sre superb live.

[Nikka]

check out my rock band here http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/edonis :rock2

[Prospero]

Nikka - I'd not categorise your music as industrial if the tracks posted by Tempest are representative). You have tunes. They have growls.

For me the Industrial music posted to this thread seems to be an ugly celebration of ugliness. I just don't get it. (Though Tempest looks terrific) But then that's just my taste.

[Jamie French]

Ugly is infinitely more interesting. What part of the word 'industrial' makes you think anything about it is suppose to be pretty? Bring on the ugly.




...For me the Industrial music posted to this thread seems to be an ugly celebration of ugliness. I just don't get it. (Though Tempest looks terrific) But then that's just my taste.

Livid All Along - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdwFbn7tMY)
Brace Leg - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOnAyp072xo)

[Prospero]

Yes - you're right jamie. Industrial does imply ugly. But I'd definately say - that for me - Nikka's music is more "interesting'. But as i said. Music is down to personal taste.

[Jamie French]

Whatever you say, but you're missing the point. Nothing against Nikka, but her band shouldn't even be posted on this thread... it's a thread about industrial music. And if you don't "get" industrial music than why are you even posting on this thread?


Yes - you're right jamie. Industrial does imply ugly. But I'd definately say - that for me - Nikka's music is more "interesting'. But as i said. Music is down to personal taste.

[magicmost]

Don't know much about industrial, but i really like MINISTRY & FRONT 242

[Dino Velvet]

I imagine Rammstein would qualify.

Rammstein - Live aus Berlin - Wollt Ihr Das Bett In Flammen Sehen? HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Te98HphPjc)

[Helvis2012]

Dig it!

[TempestTS]

Nikka - I'd not categorise your music as industrial if the tracks posted by Tempest are representative). You have tunes. They have growls.

For me the Industrial music posted to this thread seems to be an ugly celebration of ugliness. I just don't get it. (Though Tempest looks terrific) But then that's just my taste.


Re: Growls -- LOL What can I say, Im an angry girl but but I see no reason you cant be beautiful in defiance...

[Prospero]

Tempest - you are beautiful "in defiance" and so is Jamie.

[robertlouis]

I've written and recorded a number of songs ABOUT industries - steel, shipbuilding, fishing etc - but I guess they don't qualify under this definition.

[teegeelover]

Front 242
Frontline Assembly
Skinny Puppy
Ministry
Birmingham 6
Apoptygma Berzerk
Revolting Cocks
Einsturzend Neubauten
Die Krupps
Foetus
Noise Unit
Vampire Rodents....and many others

[Dino Velvet]

Ministry - Just One Fix-Music Video - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbXciBKcfQ8)

[tgirlsrtasty]

The best Industrial song of all time

Ministry - So What - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zQ9bu0ASZI)

I was so close to Ministry at a concert that I honestly thought my ears were going to bleed


If you know Industrial....you know Jourgensen rules

[Prospero]

Robert louis... maybe "Music While you Work" qualifies? it used to be played in Britain's factories in the 1940s and 1950s to promote industrial productivity?

Classic BBC Radio Theme ~ Music While You Work - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMEpjDFHN50)

[Prospero]

On a note more in accord with the taste of those who started this thread, a UK band called Test Department offered what many view to be "real" industrial music some years ago. This is a powerful taster. They used to play in old warehouses, building sites, and utilise the available metal and other found material in their locale married to normal instruments.

Test Dept. - Total State Machine - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUxoughdYto)

[Prospero]

Test Dept. - Total Nervous Phenomonom - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8deElqvHR0&feature=related)

[fetishka]

goth/industrial totally my fave...

[JohnnyVee]

Loved that list post and nods to Al...reminds me of the WaxTrax days...

wanted to add a few more:

Haujobb - Dream Aid (Hi Frequency/Low Frequency) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_dnhdzE_1U)

Pigface - Nutopia - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glynTpbhtdI)

Snog - Hooray!! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1NM0qxBaAg&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CXOCaePL_YyfNi37fm6uTh)

[alpha2117]

Rammstein make the best clips


Rammstein - Links 2 3 4 (Official Video) [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kVoEew6I1M)

Rammstein-Mein Land - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNNR8UX7oKk&feature=related)

Rammstein - Amerika - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4vIzEkd6s&feature=related)

Rammstein - Sonne - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBeYoP9Wi0)


Great live too

Rammstein - Los (rip from Völkerball) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewaLNZ1100)

[irvin66]

Rammstein make the best clips


Rammstein - Links 2 3 4 (Official Video) [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kVoEew6I1M)

Rammstein-Mein Land - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNNR8UX7oKk&feature=related)

Rammstein - Amerika - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4vIzEkd6s&feature=related)

Rammstein - Sonne - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBeYoP9Wi0)


Great live too

Rammstein - Los (rip from Völkerball) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewaLNZ1100)


Yeah mate I totally agree with you, Rammstein is definitely king. :rock2

[Nivek]

I love industrial music! Pigface, Skinny Puppy, Velvet Acid Christ, ( of course both Manson & NIN), KMFDM, Rammstein, to name a well known few. I really Like Wumpscut, Frontline Assembly, and basically anything UGLY and abrasive to my ears.

[francisfkudrow]

Check out my band here: http://www.gravityeuphonic.net

Kick ass!

[TempestTS]

My good friends W.O.R.M. are now appearing as the sound track to several of my TS-ROCKDOLLS videos Industrial Metal from Chicago... love these boys!!!

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkwrK_BOn48

[Dino Velvet]

Marilyn Manson- Antichrist Superstar Live in Los Angeles [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDyN-hQZnJA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUblFow0Zyw

Marilyn Manson Live at Bizarre Festival 1997 (Full Show, HD) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v8LEQXbkGM)

[TempestTS]

Ended up hanging with Mansons Publicist at the Tranny Awards earlier this year... I accidentally made him bleed when I answered one of his questions with a impromptu demonstration and next thing I knew he was following me around like a puppy for the next hour.

[Dino Velvet]

Ended up hanging with Mansons Publicist at the Tranny Awards earlier this year... I accidentally made him bleed when I answered one of his questions with a impromptu demonstration and next thing I knew he was following me around like a puppy for the next hour.

I did some security work for them in Texas. Brian is a fairly mellow guy that's more normal than you would imagine. Marilyn shits in a cat box for good luck and took a gal I was sweet on to the bone zone on the tour bus. I wasn't sweet on her after he soured her up.

Marilyn Manson - 8. Wrapped In Plastic - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL-gmQG2OZ8)

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/060/7/b/portrait_of_an_american_family_by_wedopix-d3aq64u.jpg

[Jamie French]

Thanks! Here's a free tune from my band...

DESERVE (http://skullcandymedia.com/deservedone.mp3)


Kick ass!

[Dino Velvet]

Thanks! Here's a free tune from my band...

DESERVE (http://skullcandymedia.com/deservedone.mp3)

Great stuff, Jamie. You and Tempest both rock.:rock2

[Prospero]

Discussing music with you lot is like trying to stop a Panzer division with a waterpistol.

Loud and ugly wins over thoughtful every time i guess.

[Jamie French]

You just don't get it do you?

You can't be that simple... I mean, I get it, I really do. How opinions like yours are formed. Polarizing your opinions makes life easier to muddle through. If you embrace the grey areas it cuts in to your daily routines and comfort zones and people generally don't like doing that.

I'll point out your glaring mistake in judgement anyhow.

You have somehow confused aesthetic with intent.

You see an ugly surface so you assume an ugly thing. Why would a song, a piece of music or expression be any less thoughtful just because of a rough exterior?

Wanna talk about thoughtful? Pick any Tom Waits ballad. ANY. Give that fucker a good deep listen and tell me that the man isn't a national treasure who's writing prowess doesn't dwarf the most "thoughtful" example you can conjure up in contemporary American music and then realize that he has one of the 'ugliest' and unlikely voices on the planet. Listen to the arrangements and realize that all the beauty and thoughtfulness you hear in any one of his songs are derived from the clanking of trashcans, broken pianos, out of tune guitars, recording in an old barn... you get the idea.

That's ONE example.

The problem is, you don't know earnest and unafraid expression when you hear it. You want the slick package, the easy swallow. That's fine... we aren't all meant to truly enjoy music, to enjoy sound, some of us can only really passively hear it. You just need to recognize that you are one of those people and stop posting on threads about genres and topics which you are not physiologically capable, let alone qualified to remark upon.

Go start your own general thread about music and leave talk about highly specific genres to those who are qualified to speak about such things.

BOOM, from your friends at the Panzer Division,
J.F. - Champion of the ugly.


Discussing music with you lot is like trying to stop a Panzer division with a waterpistol.

Loud and ugly wins over thoughtful every time i guess.

[Prospero]

Thanks jamie - I really appreciate your response - despite eh obvious jibes. I do try to listen to this. Watched both your videos yesterday - and my little post about Panzers was intended as a joke actually. I'm glad it got a thoughtful response. That's exactly what I wanted.
I do like Tom Waits very much actually - and Diamanda Galas and many other types of music which would be labelled by the mainstream as ugly. For instance, as a music writer in the past, I championed punk when it first appeared (Yes I'm not in the first flush of youth lol) and really enojy provocative music. I like thought in music. I guess I will have to try harder. but there does seem to me to be an obsession in the music we are talking about here with death, decay, extreme sexual violence, putrefaction, zombies - in fact a whole iconography of disturbance. Why is that? I did post and listen to the music in this thread out of genuine curiosity. (Do YOU extend such curiosity to other musical genres - Modern avant garde classical music, for instance - country and western, mediaeval music etc etc) Just asking. I am passionate about music and really DO want to understand.

[JohnnyVee]

This thread cannot continue with a nod to Throbbing Gristle...

Throbbing Gristle-D.O.A. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr-aUoKPnkI)

[Prospero]

Genesis P.Orridge - now he was an original

Oh and I meant to say that i own and listen often to everything Waits has produced. Way more interesting and thoughtful that the stuff described as industrial music . But that's just my opinion.nI can hear the diffrence.
By the way jamie your videos are brilliant.

Tom Waits - "Bad As Me" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Ta3H-ck6s)

[txjr3]

Thanks! Here's a free tune from my band...

DESERVE (http://skullcandymedia.com/deservedone.mp3)

That was good - is it a band with live instruments, or is a lot of it electronically produced?

[Jamie French]

@ Prospero: I listen to the very best of everything that humans produce. Also. "death, decay, extreme sexual violence, putrefaction, zombies" sounds like you are talking about Death Metal... either way, ALL TOPICS need to be expressed, so why you would care is beyond me. Don't like zombies? DON"T LISTEN TO SONGS ABOUT ZOMBIES.

@ txjr3: Live, We are a three piece band Drums, Guitar, Vocalist with backing tracks. When writing/recording, I play guitar, bass, keyboards, piano, accordion, banjo, percussion, lead vox, back ups and harmonies, vocoder, etc.

Here's the kind of music I play on my own time when I'm left alone to fiddle around in my home studio. http://www.jamesfrenchmusic.com/jamesfrenchmusic/music.html

[BiBoyinBeantown]

Wow, Throbbing Gristle and Test Dept...names I haven't heard for a long time.

What a lot of people refer to as "Industrial" these days is really EBM...Electronic Body Music. Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb pretty much invented EBM back in the 80s. See Front 242's "Headhunter" and Nitzer Ebb's "Join the Chant"

These days I like a lot of the stuff on Metropolis: VNV Nation, Covenant, Combichrist (and Andy LaPlegua's other project, Icon of Coil), as well as poppier stuff like And One, Apoptygma Berzerk, Melotron, Seabound. I saw VNV Nation at the Paradise in Boston last December, what a great show.

(Okay, evidently I fail at embedding video...was going to embed the video for Front Line Assembly "Mindphaser" and Nitzer Ebb "Join In the Chant". Blegh.)

[TempestTS]

But I LIKED being compared to a Panzer Division :cool:

Obviously I need to buy another full stack... two simply arnt getting the job done apparently:rock2

PS... I even like Zombies although prefer them to keep their distance behind the barricades


Thanks jamie - I really appreciate your response - despite eh obvious jibes. I do try to listen to this. Watched both your videos yesterday - and my little post about Panzers was intended as a joke actually. I'm glad it got a thoughtful response. That's exactly what I wanted.
I do like Tom Waits very much actually - and Diamanda Galas and many other types of music which would be labelled by the mainstream as ugly. For instance, as a music writer in the past, I championed punk when it first appeared (Yes I'm not in the first flush of youth lol) and really enojy provocative music. I like thought in music. I guess I will have to try harder. but there does seem to me to be an obsession in the music we are talking about here with death, decay, extreme sexual violence, putrefaction, zombies - in fact a whole iconography of disturbance. Why is that? I did post and listen to the music in this thread out of genuine curiosity. (Do YOU extend such curiosity to other musical genres - Modern avant garde classical music, for instance - country and western, mediaeval music etc etc) Just asking. I am passionate about music and really DO want to understand.

[Yvonne183]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJngx-X-mTU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6WoH2RpzPI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNAdtkSjSps