Why do most TS admirer/chasers wouldnt tell they had sex with a guy before?

[alyssaluxor]

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

[Jericho]

They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls.

If they suck cock well, there's your answer (sometimes). :shrug

[callahac]

Beats me, I guess they are embarrassed or afraid that you will think them less of a man. I don't get this- who you have sex with shouldn't determine how manly you are, rather it should be your values, the way you treat people, honor and integrity.

[KittyPride]

Well coz they wont admit to themselves they are gay ;)

[callahac]

Well coz they wont admit to themselves they are gay ;)

That's true too. I guess guys need to get over this- there is no shame in being gay

[maddygirl]

Hm, I'm not really sure. It could be they're in denial or embarrassed of their sexual experiences with other men or they're scared of what you'll think of them. I know if a guy was interested in me and he had told me he'd been with guys, I would be pretty put off. I really wouldn't ever want to imagine a future boyfriend of mine having been with guys, it would just change the whole way I saw him and I think if I had any feelings for him before he told me, they would be gone after that conversation, and I'd only be comfortable being friends with him. It's sad that people feel they have to hide or be ashamed of who they had been with, and I think it's probably something somebody should say in the beginning stages of a relationship just in case the other person has some sort of issue with it. Now, I have no problem with guys who have sex with guys, or bisexual guys, I just can't picture myself with a guy who isn't just solely attracted to women. :)

[anon451]

I have never had sex with a guy. I never want to, A man does absolutely nothing for me, in fact dudes are for the most part gross.. I'm not even slightly curious about anal or assholes or anything like that. I look at myself as a guy who would just like to experiment with a tgirl, primarily oral. I don't even know if I would go through with it once I got there. I love beautiful women and everything about them, and a beautiful woman who has something extra just turns me on. I have no fears about being labeled anything. I know what I am, and if given the choice I would always pick a GG. I am simply open to try and experiment.

[buckjohnson]

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

I dont know how conducive to the truth it is taking a survey with clients...cats will say anything to get the ass, to keep the ass. while getting the ass.

By the way, how difficult is it to suck cock "good" Sucking is an instinctive act and other than teeth getting in the way, has anybody been bad a cock sucking or had a bad cock sucking experience.

Finally, men do not think a blow job is a "sexual encounter" the ass and the pussy is the sexual encounter. A BJ is just passing the time until a guy gets the ass. I think semantics is part of your dilemma

[Nikka]

they r all faggots and married with children

[buckjohnson]

they r all faggots and married with children


Did you wake up with all the antagonistic rhythm today?

Or are you being sarcastic?

[buttslinger]

Why do most TS admirer/chasers wouldnt tell they had sex with a guy before?

Because they're cocksuckers AND liars!!!

Oh, and Buck, there are blow jobs, and then there are blowjobs....
Kathy, sweetheart, rest in peace, you will always be the best...

[giovanni_hotel]

Why are you even asking??
Let's see, what is it saying about a TS provider if she has a belief that most men she sees as clients have had at least one prior sexual relationship with a male before, even if it was as an adolescent??

IMO too many tgirls are really insecure in their own sexuality and they project that insecurity onto MEN.

If I'm dating a woman who had a 'girlfriend' in college, does that mean she's really a closet LESBIAN?? smdh.

IMO if a gay man (prefers the emotional/sexual intimacy of other men) is still willing to pay a TRANNY ESCORT to have sex, professionally speaking, you as an escort should feel LUCKY because you're attracting clientele that normally wouldn't seek you out.

That's why I think I was such a homophobe before I had my psychological tranny cherry broken, I first went down on a tgirl and allowed a tgirl to make me cum.

Intuitively, most men know that ALL women, TG and GG, are superior shit talkers. They may say one thing, 'please don't judge me!', but when it comes to the men in their lives everything is a double standard.

If a TG escort thinks the majority of her clients are closeted fags, then what is a transgendered woman really???

[allurstouse]

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

Ihave had sex with every possible identification of human of legal age that wanted to except transmen. I liked it all. I have no shame. if it makes me gay in someone's eyes I equaste it to the same person calling you a man. it's derived from a basic ignorance of human sexuality. Frankly, I understand you are all woman. I was taking to girl who hadnt started hormones and she was calling herself a "girl" I thought it sad. I mean she was a girl when she popped out of the womb. That said a penis is a male appendage and the contortions straight men go through to justify they are all straight amazes me. I dont bottom is a great one...wghat they only suck cock?

I joined a cheezy sex site and had some nudes up. I put them in a friend only folder i had so many straight guys msging wanting my ass. it was a good picture real but flattering . Things with sexuality generally are not of the extrme rigid black and white labels. if anyone would understand I would think it would berthe girls here who first hand had to confront the false definitions on gender and chose to be true to themselves rather than be a square peg painfully jammed in a round hole. There is a perception in men that it emascuates. that's bs I dont know anyone as willing to speak truth to power despite risks in their orivate and work life. I do know lots of peopel to scared to speak there mind. I have never had an issue sayng what I thought whether it was populat or not and think thats a far better measure of masculinity than number of guys I fucked or let fuck me. If anything it's emascualting to pretend one is soething one isnt to fit in better. Once in a while someone says something to me and I have np looking at them and saying its fucking great to not be hung up on sex. it's a sex act not a charactor definition.

So, I am not surprised they dont tell you for some you may be a gateway. It's shame based behavior for them still because of internal conflicts and peer standards. if ever you come to the east coasst I'd have to spend the first hr with you going over the men i slept with but I am an exibitionist and would be going into detail first therwas this timein bandcamp... lol. If no one is harmed there should be no shame or hesitancy in owning it. I also just remembered I owe you a picture of a very high mileage member:yayo: I feel bad for repressed people internal conflict is toxic.


Of course straight men like socking xcock so I am probably way off.....:ignore: gay straight bi who cares. it's sex. What defines sexuality in the general terms but not black and white isd who you can form emotional connections to. I would make a lousy ideal of societiy's homosexual even though I am good in bed with a guy...no electricity outsode of sex

[allurstouse]

they r all faggots and married with children

Kind of ugly language. Generally when you make all or nothing statements your a bigot..... feel free to insult me but they are your words. If you pause and think of sterotyes a seconfd amybe you can grow as a human being and loose some really useless hate. Some clients are gay in denial and some just arent peopel to be neatly stuck in a labeled package, For the life of me I really thought people who had probably faced being told their truth was a lie wouldnt be so quick to do the same to others. It isnt that saying what you said "hurts" anyone either it just makes you ugly frankly

[allurstouse]

LOL read the whole thread feel sorry for so many of you. You transcend and escape the false beliefs on gender held by society and turn around and carry the water when it comes to shaming others with false ignorant understanding of human sexuality... I am actually laughing it's so sad and so ironic. i guess on some level I expected personal experience would of been enlightening about how medival beliefs on gender and sexuality are in society

[Deepdarkfucker]

You know sometimes it could just be true?

[buckjohnson]

LOL read the whole thread feel sorry for so many of you. You transcend and escape the false beliefs on gender held by society and turn around and carry the water when it comes to shaming others with false ignorant understanding of human sexuality... I am actually laughing it's so sad and so ironic. i guess on some level I expected personal experience would of been enlightening about how medival beliefs on gender and sexuality are in society


you sir are gay and a faggot

[giovanni_hotel]

you sir are gay and a faggot

lol!!:ignore:

Only swallowing is faggoty behavior btw.:dancing:

[KittyPride]

lol!!:ignore:

Only swallowing is faggoty behavior btw.:dancing:

Then i must be gay :dancing:

[buckjohnson]

Then i must be gay :dancing:
The point I wa trying to make is the OP premise was slightly false. She took a survey in a situation where truth is not valued and thne came to a conclusion based on the falsehood, including the cock sucking skills of her clients. Anybody can suck a cock. not much skills involved there.

Great cock sucking joke. (partial)

A six year old and her sleepover friend look through the peephole of her parents door and watched her mother gloriously sucking her dad's dick. She turned to her friend and said "last week that bitch slapped the shit out of me for sucking my thumb". (Paul Mooney)

[allurstouse]

you sir are gay and a faggot
heal thyself
http://daily-grind.net/troll-psychology-an-insight-into-internet-bullying/

[amberskyi]

I dont know how conducive to the truth it is taking a survey with clients...cats will say anything to get the ass, to keep the ass. while getting the ass.

By the way, how difficult is it to suck cock "good" Sucking is an instinctive act and other than teeth getting in the way, has anybody been bad a cock sucking or had a bad cock sucking experience.

Finally, men do not think a blow job is a "sexual encounter" the ass and the pussy is the sexual encounter. A BJ is just passing the time until a guy gets the ass. I think semantics is part of your dilemma

they dont really have to do or say anything to get sex...thats the whole point of seeing an escort.easy,painless and impersonal sexual encounters

[allurstouse]

Ihave had sex with every possible identification of human of legal age that wanted to except transmen. I liked it all. I have no shame. if it makes me gay in someone's eyes I equaste it to the same person calling you a man. it's derived from a basic ignorance of human sexuality. Frankly, I understand you are all woman. I was taking to girl who hadnt started hormones and she was calling herself a "girl" I thought it sad. I mean she was a girl when she popped out of the womb. That said a penis is a male appendage and the contortions straight men go through to justify they are all straight amazes me. I dont bottom is a great one...wghat they only suck cock?

I joined a cheezy sex site and had some nudes up. I put them in a friend only folder i had so many straight guys msging wanting my ass. it was a good picture real but flattering . Things with sexuality generally are not of the extrme rigid black and white labels. if anyone would understand I would think it would berthe girls here who first hand had to confront the false definitions on gender and chose to be true to themselves rather than be a square peg painfully jammed in a round hole. There is a perception in men that it emascuates. that's bs I dont know anyone as willing to speak truth to power despite risks in their orivate and work life. I do know lots of peopel to scared to speak there mind. I have never had an issue sayng what I thought whether it was populat or not and think thats a far better measure of masculinity than number of guys I fucked or let fuck me. If anything it's emascualting to pretend one is soething one isnt to fit in better. Once in a while someone says something to me and I have np looking at them and saying its fucking great to not be hung up on sex. it's a sex act not a charactor definition.

So, I am not surprised they dont tell you for some you may be a gateway. It's shame based behavior for them still because of internal conflicts and peer standards. if ever you come to the east coasst I'd have to spend the first hr with you going over the men i slept with but I am an exibitionist and would be going into detail first therwas this timein bandcamp... lol. If no one is harmed there should be no shame or hesitancy in owning it. I also just remembered I owe you a picture of a very high mileage member:yayo: I feel bad for repressed people internal conflict is toxic.


Of course straight men like socking xcock so I am probably way off.....:ignore: gay straight bi who cares. it's sex. What defines sexuality in the general terms but not black and white isd who you can form emotional connections to. I would make a lousy ideal of societiy's homosexual even though I am good in bed with a guy...no electricity outsode of sex

bdsm playdate with ftm tommorow night so no longer asll true. ZAm I a faggot or is he a self hating dyke min denail though...so confusing if you are enough to think about it

[allurstouse]

Finally, men do not think a blow job is a "sexual encounter" the ass and the pussy is the sexual encounter. A BJ is just passing the time until a guy gets the ass. I think semantics is part of your dilemma

that is some amazing gynnastics but i guees it would allow a straight guy to like dick because he was bored

[alyssaluxor]

the reason why im asking if they had sex with guys before is first it turns me on lol
and second if they say yes most probably they are powerbottoms in bed so i would know what to do by then *wink*

[Prospero]

Do you mean with guys or do you mean with TS? Crucial difference. If i were to meet you I'd admit the TS bit - and read on I'm admitting the other but with qualifications. (I have actually tried it with guys and it was NOT my thing, You gotta find out these things. Big turn off.)

[alyssaluxor]

Do you mean with guys or do you mean with TS? Crucial difference. If i were to meet you I'd admit the TS bit - and read on I'm admitting the other but with qualifications. (I have actually tried it with guys and it was NOT my thing, You gotta find out these things. Big turn off.)

with the guys i find it so HOT! :jerkoff

thats why when they confest after the session that they did had sexual encounter with guys before i tell them why just now, i could have fucked you much better if you told me before for i find it very sexy

:fuckin:

[londonpirate]

I d be so annoyed having sex with an escort who dabbles in low grade psychology. More sucky less talky please

[amberskyi]

I d be so annoyed having sex with an escort who dabbles in low grade psychology. More sucky less talky please

thats weird i was going to say the same thing to you...shut up and stuff a dick in it..

[Nicole Dupre]

The point I wa trying to make is the OP premise was slightly false. She took a survey in a situation where truth is not valued and thne came to a conclusion based on the falsehood, including the cock sucking skills of her clients. Anybody can suck a cock. not much skills involved there.

Great cock sucking joke. (partial)

A six year old and her sleepover friend look through the peephole of her parents door and watched her mother gloriously sucking her dad's dick. She turned to her friend and said "last week that bitch slapped the shit out of me for sucking my thumb". (Paul Mooney)
You can't be serious. lol

That's nonsense. There is an incredible amount of technique and skill that can go into giving oral. You must be really missing out if you think everyone's the same.

And not only are some people great at it, but some people are horrible at it.

[allurstouse]

You can't be serious. lol

That's nonsense. There is an incredible amount of technique and skill that can go into giving oral. You must be really missing out if you think everyone's the same.

And not only are some people great at it, but some people are horrible at it.

truly true. I thought teeth were always bad till a gf was barely touching me with them on the way up. I've had the pleausre of being on both end of the exercise and it is a skill and and an integral part of sex not an afterthought out of boredom and the nice thing is everyone involved knows the quality of the effort it just stands out is all:hide-1: yah just cant fake an erection! I think with the exception of those here only for porn there are two kinds of people lurking on this forum those that have given head and those that lie

[TatianaSummer]

Because they want girls to think they are straight, but in reality they are bisexual but ashame to admit it.

[blackshemalelove]

im a 24 yr old guy who liked/likes girls very much and lately been into ts.....but ts only......there is nothing that turns me on about a guy sexualy, nothing about his physicall

in my opinion, a ts can please a guy sexualy better than a women only bc they once were a man and to a certain level know what a man likes.....i mean i can put in my perspective, if im sucking a pussy im never really 100% if im doing it right, as i never had one and dont really know how it feel.....meanwhile for a TS, they can easily give the best bjs because they have/had a cock and know what it requires for it to be satisfied....

but still even though i like to be bottomed every now and then by a ts, i would never imagine having sex with a guy as im not attracted to men

still i cant dare to ever tell anyone about the ts fantasy (even tried only once), my family, friends or anyone, as i might be looked as gay (which for my society is WRONG)......even though I totally dont feel like gay (if i consider that im not attracted to guys but still would have sex with a pretty TS before than with a pretty girl, probably because its still a fantasy), am i gay or not?


ive read a lot of things about this, but still dont know dow to define this inbetween.

[bluesoul]

From my experience ive noticed whenever I asked a client before a session if they had sexual encounter with a guy before, they always say 'no'. They say they only have sex with girls and ts girls. You know im just having little chat and knowing him before sex lol

Then after the session having a little chat again. I asked again if they are sure not to have sex with guys before for they suck cock so good. Then suddenly they would admit they did had sexual encounters with guys before like during high school or college or few years ago.

So why is it they seem to be hiding that they had sex with guys before? Whats the big deal with it?

i'm going to guess you're an escort/sex worker. most men don't see the point of being truthful to someone in your line of work due to the connotations that come with that (legality, embarrassment etc). also, it's likely the "client" is there to have sex, not seeking legal advise, so truth isn't really an issue. as a matter of fact, your line of work requires one seek truth only in spoonfuls, and work focus more on the fantasy at hand.

if you were a lawyer, legal adviser, doctor or such, it's likely the men would be truthful from the get go. i'd chalk it down as an occupational hazard and not worry too much about it. nice attempt at a discussion though

[Prospero]

I continue to find it curious that TS girls will insist that men who enjoy their sexuality are bi-sexual. I do not claim to be straight. But I know from trying sex with men that i am certainly not bisexual. I enjoy sex with GGs and with TS girls and, occasionally, with a very convincing TV. I have genuinely plumbed the depths of my own sexual identity to see if i am attracted to men as men and I find that I really am not. I feel convinced this must be true for many other men here. There is no easy label for us (confused?) but I think bisexuality is not accurate. A bisexual - as far as I am aware - is someone who is attracted to men and women (and those in between).

[londonpirate]

I agree with Propsero (once again). I have stablished early on that i m not gay, i m just not attracted to men. I like gg and ts. The latter need to be convincing as women, not just a shaved guy with a wig. They need to have a feminine personality. Put it simply, i want a passable woman with a penis.
When i used to go see escorts, i did it to relax and have fn, not to be subject to questioning about my life and sexuality. Found those escorts that were too chatty and inquisitive a big turn off and , despite not having met her, it seems alyssa fits that bill.. I know it might sound crazy but i expect some discretion and privacy.
Keep calling your clients powerbottoms and gays, i m sure they ll come beack...not.
Find it also very ironic that ts women want to be recognised as women (and i certainly see them as such) but some call their clients gay. Well, what does that make you alyssa? Yes, a man....

I think i know who the confused one is here. In some countries, homosexuality is not accepted, gay men are seen as inherently feminine and are only accepted if they transition (see iran). I ve certainly met thai ladyboys who told me they didnt see themselves as women but that it was easier for them that way. Since you're in the business of discussing personal matters, alyssa, are you a ts or just a confused young gay man?

[allurstouse]

I continue to find it curious that TS girls will insist that men who enjoy their sexuality are bi-sexual. I do not claim to be straight. But I know from trying sex with men that i am certainly not bisexual. I enjoy sex with GGs and with TS girls and, occasionally, with a very convincing TV. I have genuinely plumbed the depths of my own sexual identity to see if i am attracted to men as men and I find that I really am not. I feel convinced this must be true for many other men here. There is no easy label for us (confused?) but I think bisexuality is not accurate. A bisexual - as far as I am aware - is someone who is attracted to men and women (and those in between).

The labels are the problem. They don't reflect the range of human sexuality. They are social labels not really accurate biological ones. Not straight is probably a far better descripitive term for anyone who has ever thought about dick than bi sexual and being heteroflexible*( i love that one) I learned a lot of straight guys are often DL closet cases and not straight. I dont mean majorities just a signifigant enough number to make me believe the "not straight" catagory is bigger than admmitted.

[allurstouse]

i'm going to guess you're an escort/sex worker. most men don't see the point of being truthful to someone in your line of work due to the connotations that come with that (legality, embarrassment etc). also, it's likely the "client" is there to have sex, not seeking legal advise, so truth isn't really an issue. as a matter of fact, your line of work requires one seek truth only in spoonfuls, and work focus more on the fantasy at hand.

if you were a lawyer, legal adviser, doctor or such, it's likely the men would be truthful from the get go. i'd chalk it down as an occupational hazard and not worry too much about it. nice attempt at a discussion though

i understand your point. i think the sad thing is people arent truthful because they are offten ashamed of themselves or worried about peer judgement. A truly crappy existence imo.

[allurstouse]

thats weird i was going to say the same thing to you...shut up and stuff a dick in it..

I just spit coffee out my nose I was laughing so hard I missed this yesterday. 8 words to completely and totally eviscerate. You have a gift. He wont get an erection for a month

[Nicole Dupre]

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

[londonpirate]

That's rich, prostitutes lecturing their clients about morality and truth vs lies.
You chose to sell your ass for money, get over it, dont blame your clients, they probably paid for your transition.
Stop trying to masquerade what you do for something else. We pay good money for an hour or two of sex that's it, we re not hcoming for the conversation or to explore the inner depth of our sexuality with you. If you were so perceptive you d be doing another job. Do your job and shut up or dont, but stop being so damn annoying.

[londonpirate]

I just spit coffee out my nose I was laughing so hard I missed this yesterday. 8 words to completely and totally eviscerate. You have a gift. He wont get an erection for a month
Yes , merely saying "right back at you" instead of coming up with an intelligent reply is a "gift". I m sure you re dreaming right now tha she s going to notice you, you re probably going to have some wet dreams...kiss-ass...

[MDM23]

Maybe all Alyssas clients are gays since they think she looks a bit manly so reminds them of their boyfriends, who knows.

[dakota87]

^I personally think that Alyssa is one the the sweetest and prettiest girls on here.

[Uncletom16]

they r all faggots and married with children Niikka, why don't you do any videos of you getting fucked by a guy or tgirl? I know you take really big cock off of camera.

[YasminLee]

I find that a lot of guys I been with have been with guys...I would never twist their balls about it. it can be very personal to some people in that situation, maybe they prefer to present themselves in whatever they think is appropriate considering the situation. I happen to think that bi- and carefree guys are the best lover. if it feels good it feels good

[londonpirate]

Maybe all Alyssas clients are gays since they think she looks a bit manly so reminds them of their boyfriends, who knows.

My point exactly! The irony seems to be lost on her, and nikka and others. If they re gay, they like sleeping with men, if they sleep with you, that probably means you're a guy!

[amberskyi]

Yes , merely saying "right back at you" instead of coming up with an intelligent reply is a "gift". I m sure you re dreaming right now tha she s going to notice you, you re probably going to have some wet dreams...kiss-ass...

i dont waste intelligent replies on unintelligent comments.
its seems like alot of the guys on this forum love to make rude,abrasive comments and when the girls reply in turn they become infuriated,calling foul and other such nonsense.

[Nicole Dupre]

That's rich, prostitutes lecturing their clients about morality and truth vs lies.
You chose to sell your ass for money, get over it, dont blame your clients, they probably paid for your transition.
Stop trying to masquerade what you do for something else. We pay good money for an hour or two of sex that's it, we re not hcoming for the conversation or to explore the inner depth of our sexuality with you. If you were so perceptive you d be doing another job. Do your job and shut up or dont, but stop being so damn annoying.
You're directing this at me? What does lying and prostitution have to do with one another? Because I escorted, I'm somehow dishonest? LOL How so? If anthing, escorts are more up front and we don't judge you, so you don't have to lie. I understand why men lie. I never said judged them for it . Don't be so resentful. If you have a guilty conscience about lying, you don't have any reason to point your finger at me, you bitter weirdo.

[amberskyi]

That's rich, prostitutes lecturing their clients about morality and truth vs lies.
You chose to sell your ass for money, get over it, dont blame your clients, they probably paid for your transition.
Stop trying to masquerade what you do for something else. We pay good money for an hour or two of sex that's it, we re not hcoming for the conversation or to explore the inner depth of our sexuality with you. If you were so perceptive you d be doing another job. Do your job and shut up or dont, but stop being so damn annoying.

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

[nonnonnon]

woah it's yasmin
Kevin Garnett "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcz_kDCBTBk)

[amberskyi]

I continue to find it curious that TS girls will insist that men who enjoy their sexuality are bi-sexual. I do not claim to be straight. But I know from trying sex with men that i am certainly not bisexual. I enjoy sex with GGs and with TS girls and, occasionally, with a very convincing TV. I have genuinely plumbed the depths of my own sexual identity to see if i am attracted to men as men and I find that I really am not. I feel convinced this must be true for many other men here. There is no easy label for us (confused?) but I think bisexuality is not accurate. A bisexual - as far as I am aware - is someone who is attracted to men and women (and those in between).

while im not saying being into me makes anyone gay but knowing im a ts (espically that im post-op) makes any man mildly bi-sexual.the more cock oriented the guy is the more bi-sexual he is.i have a penis theres no way around that.i have to be honest enough with myself and know that while i am a woman im not a female.i was born a man have male sex organs that i use for sexual pleasure.
if a guy was truly straight he would want nothing to do with me because of my lack of a vagina.
my boyfriend identifies with being bi-sexual even tho he's not attracted to males...its interesting that he's the first truly completely open and accepting relationship i've ever had.i wonder if that has something to do with his acceptance of who he is and his sexuality..hmmm.ive dated two completely straight identifying men before him and both kept me a secret in different ways and had other various hang ups.

[londonpirate]

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

Look I completely agree with this. The topic started with a provider showing us her inquisitive and mildly annoying side. I might have been a bit direct in my comments but I think most people would agree. If this topic had been on guy confusing paid sex for romance trust me I would have said the same thing.

[londonpirate]

You're directing this at me? What does lying and prostitution have to do with one another? Because I escorted, I'm somehow dishonest? LOL How so? If anthing, escorts are more up front and we don't judge you, so you don't have to lie. I understand why men lie. I never said judged them for it . Don't be so resentful. If you have a guilty conscience about lying, you don't have any reason to point your finger at me, you bitter weirdo.
I wasnt talking to you..nevermind

[fred41]

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

Yup....it's self perpetuating: it starts with parents , then peers ...with every lie we dig a deeper hole, making it that much harder to ever tell the truth. Fortunately, at some point, sometimes we reach an age where we don't give a fuck anymore...the obvious down side being: being old.

The only thing I might change in your statement is the word "men". "People" lie about sex. Women are pressured to lie also...just that the lies are geared slightly different.

As far as the OP is concerned: I'm not sure that there really is a correlation between liking TS and bisexuality...or simply liking men. I'm sure that there are plenty of men who may be secretly bisexual (or some "gray scale" version of it)..who have no real interest in TS. A GG escort might ask the same question but receive fewer honest answers, because male clients would view a TS as being more understanding about it than a GG.




:D...what's really funny is: how many serious replies Alyssa still gets on these threads (that she has a history of posting)...myself included...lol.

[amberskyi]

Look I completely agree with this. The topic started with a provider showing us her inquisitive and mildly annoying side. I might have been a bit direct in my comments but I think most people would agree. If this topic had been on guy confusing paid sex for romance trust me I would have said the same thing.

see...your the type of client i prefer...respect and discretion both ways

[Queens Guy]

Maybe some of the guys are lying just because they think they'll have a better experience with you. That you will be more 'thrilled' to be his first. Although you say you find it sexier if the reverse were true.

If he knew what turned you on more, even if it was his first time, he might lie about that and say he's been in all male gangbangs and loves being on the receiving end of a bukkake party. Just to get you turned on.

Maybe it's part of his 'fantasy' to have the escort be 'his first one'. And your client is the one that's paying for the fantasy.

[KittyPride]

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

Such truthfull analyses of men.

On this board Ive talked to a few guys that more or less expect I would be somehow like them. Hiding, feeling embassed... being secretive....like i did not get over that.
The only way to survive I think is complete acceptence of yourself and the only way to live a happy life is to accept and persue what you really want..

There is no time for bullshit like that, I dont have hetersosexual lifestyle for an aliby.
I am completely naked. And that is my strength. Because most people are very fearfull and afraid of what others might think and say.

I cant live my life if that was the first thing that was on my mind each morning.

[londonpirate]

see...your the type of client i prefer...respect and discretion both ways

Well hit me up when you're in london darling, might break my "no more escorts" vow for you

[Nicole Dupre]

I know that I may be in the minority here with a few the girls on this topic, especially after hearing what Amber, Kelly, and even Ashley believe. And I do understand what they're saying but I think they're wrong. I don't think having cocks in your ass or mouth necessarily makes you gay. It's whose cock is in your mouth or ass that makes you gay or bi. A man can kiss a man or a woman on the lips. Both have lips. But if he wants to kiss a woman, that's a heterosexual urge. If he wants to kiss a man, that's a gay urge. If you want to discuss this stuff, you need to be accurate. Anal and oral pleasure is not sexual attraction. If a man wants to fuck both men and women, that's bi. Wanting to fuck a M2F TS is not bi and it is not gay. Gay men don't want to fuck trannies. Straight men do, but they also want something in their ass or mouth to go along with the experience.

Listen. If I was gay, and having sex with me was gay, I wouldn't give a fuck at all. I'd say so. I'd say that I'm a queer for being a M2F TS and you're a queer for letting me fuck you. I'd have no issue with spelling that out if it was a fact. But it's not.

As for men being dishonest, I pity them to some degree. But there comes a time in everyone's life that you at least have to be honest with yourself. Once you do that, you can be honest with anyone on your own terms and feel ok about it. If you choose not to, you may have a good reason, like survival in world full of predatory bigots. So ok. Then maybe you need to be discreet and maintain your privacy. But beyond a certain point, what kind of life are you living? And to be so fucked up that you feel ashamed to tell an escort what you're into? lol C'mon. You're already paying to suck our dicks and let us fuck you. Do you think learning about you having sex with a straight up dude is going to blow our minds? Get fucking real. lol

I put nothing past anyone. I've had all types of clients. Some were truly fucked up people who have done extremely fucked up things. There are lots of skeletons in those closets. Nothing shocks me.

[Nicole Dupre]

I wasnt talking to you..nevermind
Then my apologies.

[londonpirate]

Then my apologies.

Accepted.

[Nicole Dupre]

Yup....it's self perpetuating: it starts with parents , then peers ...with every lie we dig a deeper hole, making it that much harder to ever tell the truth. Fortunately, at some point, sometimes we reach an age where we don't give a fuck anymore...the obvious down side being: being old.

The only thing I might change in your statement is the word "men". "People" lie about sex. Women are pressured to lie also...just that the lies are geared slightly different.

As far as the OP is concerned: I'm not sure that there really is a correlation between liking TS and bisexuality...or simply liking men. I'm sure that there are plenty of men who may be secretly bisexual (or some "gray scale" version of it)..who have no real interest in TS. A GG escort might ask the same question but receive fewer honest answers, because male clients would view a TS as being more understanding about it than a GG.




:D...what's really funny is: how many serious replies Alyssa still gets on these threads (that she has a history of posting)...myself included...lol.
I know. I see people going through a mid-life crisis and it's often pretty sad. I think to myself, "Wow. You had all those years to be a complete fuck up. Why did you waste them?" lol

I really have no regrets. I didn't think I'd make it past 21 when I was a kid. I always seemed different compared to other boys, and I was horrible at hiding it. They let me know about it too. That's why I started running away when I was 13. Instead of adapting to being a straight boy, I just abandoned the whole concept. My dad asked me if I was gay when I was in the 7th grade. I told him that I wasn't sure and that I'd get back to him on it. That shocked and pissed him off all at the same time. lol By my mid teens my parents told me that it was "ok if I was a gay". lol I told them that I thought it was more complicated than that. ;-) lol I put my parents through it. lol

And I agree that women can be dishonest, but not like men. Woemen can get away with being discreet about sex. It's expected of them in fact. But a man's sexuality and manhood are always potentially in question. Thank god I rarely had to bear that cross beyond my mid teens. Everyone just assumed I had no manhood. lol

[baller1987]

Nicole I'm happy to see your crazy shit talking ass is on here again. i stopped coming here for awhile when you took a haitis.

[Dino Velvet]

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

Sometimes escort get fixated on client too.

Delocated: Russian Wedding - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDVWehtrtE)

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole I'm happy to see your crazy shit talking ass is on here again. i stopped coming here for awhile when you took a haitis.
"You like me!" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl_NpdAy3WY)

[buckjohnson]

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

Amber I am hoping you did not write this sober. Not only was it rude, but it was ignorant on so many levels.

I do like your new pic that show your curves and other impressive assets...much better than your last one.

Perhaps you should take some classes in sales or marketing. Just an FYI. Post sales evaulation/monitoring is an valuble tool for future sales an marketing and also keeping you buyer interested in the merchandise. Also it can help in so many ways to improve your current product, making it better, brighter, bolder and mackier.

[amberskyi]

Amber I am hoping you did not write this sober. Not only was it rude, but it was ignorant on so many levels.

I do like your new pic that show your curves and other impressive assets...much better than your last one.

Perhaps you should take some classes in sales or marketing. Just an FYI. Post sales evaulation/monitoring is an valuble tool for future sales an marketing and also keeping you buyer interested in the merchandise. Also it can help in so many ways to improve your current product, making it better, brighter, bolder and mackier.

yea i did write it sober...it was a bit angrier than i would normally put it because it was in response to someone i thought was an asshole (he seems alright now ;) ). however the general sentiment remains the same.
clients need to be a lot more aware of the boundaries of an escort/client relationship.i understand for a lot of guys this is their sole way of meeting a ts but i have a personal private life too that needs to be respected.im not available for dating on a social/romantic level,unless of course he is paying for that fantasy.this is for my mental,emotional and physical health.
im not interested in shooting the breeze randomly unless your going to make an appointment.im a busy girl,between working and my life i dont really have a lot of time to talk about anything or nothing.also im not available to my clients on a personal/social level for my mental,emotional and physical health also.i dont mind texts messages here and there tho just to say hey,see if im in town or etc.
lastly i get questioned alot as to whether i really enjoyed the session or was it all just a fantasy.it would be a bit naive for you to think that im constantly horny and attracted to the men i see.i never answer this question truthfully because its my job as an provider to make you feel like the fantasy was real.im a very good provider (i know this by my high number of repeats and regulars).im always physically aroused (hard) with each client because that is part of the fantasy with seeing a ts.this isnt because im actually attracted or sexually excited all the time but because ive learned how to get my self sexually aroused by playing out my own fantasies in my head while im with a client (the same way a lot of guys fantasize about a different girl than the one their actually fucking).
just appreciate the experience for what it is and nothing more.that way both parties are on the same page and no one walks away with hurt feelings or misunderstandings.

p.s thanks for the avatar pic compliment

[buckjohnson]

I knew you were on a different vibe when you posted. I have drunk posted many times and it just reminded me of some of my postings.

Boundaries is difficult set in a realtionship based on fantasies. Hell, I have problems with boundaries in my real world, as everyone from family to male and female friends, co workers, New York Knicks fans, Dino and other cats on this board, etc... More power to you if you can be successful in maintaining boundaries in a world based on fantasies.

Also amazing that you can get an erection no matter what the situation you are in. I can't get an erection all the time with woman I am interested in. Also I cannot get an erection w/o being turned on by my partner. So again, more power to you, no wonder you are so successful.

One day, your booty will be my duty as I am impressed with it so much. Hope I did not cross any boundries, and if I did, i apologize.

Finally, you seem so intuitive and smart. You will be successful in any field you choose

[KittyPride]

I knew you were on a different vibe when you posted. I have drunk posted many times and it just reminded me of some of my postings.

Boundaries is difficult set in a realtionship based on fantasies. Hell, I have problems with boundaries in my real world, as everyone from family to male and female friends, co workers, New York Knicks fans, Dino and other cats on this board, etc... More power to you if you can be successful in maintaining boundaries in a world based on fantasies.

Also amazing that you can get an erection no matter what the situation you are in. I can't get an erection all the time with woman I am interested in. Also I cannot get an erection w/o being turned on by my partner. So again, more power to you, no wonder you are so successful.

One day, your booty will be my duty as I am impressed with it so much. Hope I did not cross any boundries, and if I did, i apologize.

Finally, you seem so intuitive and smart. You will be successful in any field you choose

Yeah, Amber's cool.

[luvthatranny]

I find that a lot of guys I been with have been with guys...I would never twist their balls about it. it can be very personal to some people in that situation, maybe they prefer to present themselves in whatever they think is appropriate considering the situation. I happen to think that bi- and carefree guys are the best lover. if it feels good it feels good

Really???
So you have been with no straight men that are better???:confused:

[alyssaluxor]

OMG! sorry i almost forgot about this thread been busy fucking guys lol

[alyssaluxor]

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:


Ok this is the best answer so far :cheers:

[allurstouse]

My point exactly! The irony seems to be lost on her, and nikka and others. If they re gay, they like sleeping with men, if they sleep with you, that probably means you're a guy! You really didnt like the question. it's clear from the not so subtle attacks. I think it's because you don't like the answer. Oh and I could give a fuck ir anyone "notices" me. I noticed you and think you sleep with men and lie about it. otherwise why would the question have so much energy?

[alyssaluxor]

You really didnt like the question. it's clear from the not so subtle attacks. I think it's because you don't like the answer. Oh and I could give a fuck ir anyone "notices" me. I noticed you and think you sleep with men and lie about it. otherwise why would the question have so much energy?

hihihi!

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