A conversation I had with hubby about female to male surgery this morning

[MrsKellyPierce]

So sometimes when I cam on cam4 or other places where I am in the straight section..

People say dumb things...

Like: "Why did you become a man, you are a gorgeous female." "Why did you get a cock, why on earth would you get rid of your vagina." Stupid crap like that...

Well anyways that had me thinking...about the female to male surgery...it's not anywhere near successful as male to female surgery...

Why couldn't they just unattach a penis from a fresh dead man or someone that is going to die..like they do with kidneys etc

And then attach it to the nerve endings and all that jazz...than bam a PENIS...

I am not trying to be funny here..though it does sound comical..

but it's just a thought...

Any doctors in the house that could explain why it wouldn't work??

By the way hubby was cringing and making crazy faces the whole time so it was really hard to have this conversation with him..

This gives you insight on how my brain works sometimes.. lol

[LibertyHarkness]

yes the body would reject it ...so the person would need to take meds to not get infections etc ..

much like with transplants that not all of them are sucessful ...

[Marie Thorne]

All I can think is Deus Ex for all you gamers our there.

MY PENIS IS AUGMENTED.

That could actually be fun, I think a like cyberpunk trans porn film would be kickass. I also wouldn't think steampunk could be bad either.

[MrsKellyPierce]

yes the body would reject it ...so the person would need to take meds to not get infections etc ..

much like with transplants that not all of them are sucessful ...
How did they reattach Lorraina Bobbit's husband's thingy?

[bte]

How did they reattach Lorraina Bobbit's husband's thingy?

I think what Libby is saying is that if you attach someone else dick to someone then it will reject it. If a person was to reattach their own body part to their body then it won't reject it.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I think what Libby is saying is that if you attach someone else dick to someone then it will reject it. If a person was to reattach their own body part to their body then it won't reject it.
Oh cloning one and then attaching it?

[joeym75ld]

If it really worked this way, I call dibs on Angeles Cid's big fat dong when whe is ready to have her change:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltr6pxP3Fb1r3lb3no1_500.jpg


So sometimes when I cam on cam4 or other places where I am in the straight section..

People say dumb things...

Like: "Why did you become a man, you are a gorgeous female." "Why did you get a cock, why on earth would you get rid of your vagina." Stupid crap like that...

Well anyways that had me thinking...about the female to male surgery...it's not anywhere near successful as male to female surgery...

Why couldn't they just unattach a penis from a fresh dead man or someone that is going to die..like they do with kidneys etc

And then attach it to the nerve endings and all that jazz...than bam a PENIS...

I am not trying to be funny here..though it does sound comical..

but it's just a thought...

Any doctors in the house that could explain why it wouldn't work??

By the way hubby was cringing and making crazy faces the whole time so it was really hard to have this conversation with him..

This gives you insight on how my brain works sometimes.. lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

If it really worked this way, I call dibs on Angeles Cid's big fat dong when whe is ready to have her change:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltr6pxP3Fb1r3lb3no1_500.jpg
but they use part of hers for the vagina lol

[Marie Thorne]

What I can't wait for is body swapping/ brain swapping.

I'd love to just find an FTM who wants to trade bodies with me, it'd be so much easier than what we have to go through now. I mean, the state of MtF surgery is amazing, but FtM is... lacking at the moment, sadly.
Everything would be so much easier, you know?

[joeym75ld]

but they use part of hers for the vagina lol


No, no. She can pick a beautiful, real vagina for transplant in the same manner. :)

I know plenty of GGs who do not utilize theirs properly (they are called the "married" ones), and quite honetly they would probably be better off without them.

[LibertyHarkness]

bobbits cock was his own .. so therefore the body wouldnt reject it ..as long as they could reattach the veings etc blood vessel thingies ..

generally transplants from other people to others is very hard and require mulitple meds for life to stop rejection and the transplant item dying .

[rockabilly]

Someone cue up the song "Detachable Penis".

[MrsKellyPierce]

No, no. She can pick a beautiful, real vagina for transplant in the same manner. :)

I know plenty of GGs who do not utilize theirs properly (they are called the "married" ones), and quite honetly they would probably be better off without them.
lmao!! I laughed at this

[muh_muh]

Why couldn't they just unattach a penis from a fresh dead man or someone that is going to die..like they do with kidneys etc

1) a female body doesnt have the neve endings or blood vessels for a penis
2) would you want to get bummed with a zombie penis?

[APD2]

No idea.

There have been hand and face transplants in recent years.So I guess it could be done in principle...surgically,it would relatively simple to establish a blood supply and get the patient on lifelong immunosuppressive drugs to prevent rejection.

The main difficulty would be connecting the nerves in the donor penis to the rest of the body and so getting sensation in the organ. Otherwise,it'll just be an alien attachment,with the addition of serious health complication for the patient.

[rbiller]

I know it's off topic a little, but Kelly, are you planning SRS anytime in the future and what does hubby think about that?

[MrsKellyPierce]

I know it's off topic a little, but Kelly, are you planning SRS anytime in the future and what does hubby think about that?
I was a few years ago, but the reason I am not now is due to the fact the surgery still is not 100% accurate..

Very few girls turn out with good looking ones and ones that work...

Orgasming is important to me..

So until then no...

He loves me either way...he was supportive when I wanted to..and understands why I don't want to.

[rbiller]

Thanks for your reply Kelly. I often have wondered why some girls are willing to give up having orgasms. It seems like a high price to pay to me and I think you are so wise for postponing. Of course as a man I look at it another way too. A penis on a beautiful woman is something special, something that makes her a little different than other women. And I for one would much rather suck a dick than "eat" pussy.

[LibertyHarkness]

well not all girls will keep having orgasmns as a preop if they are on a high /mod level of hormones .. they will eventualyl become unfuncitoonal fully . so at that point they wont have orgasms ... so whats the point in having a cock that doesnt do anything other than piss .. personally me i would rather take my chance and have a neo vagina that has some orgasmic sensation ..or i will get castrated ..

[Marie Thorne]

I was a few years ago, but the reason I am not now is due to the fact the surgery still is not 100% accurate..

Very few girls turn out with good looking ones and ones that work...

Orgasming is important to me..

So until then no...

He loves me either way...he was supportive when I wanted to..and understands why I don't want to.
You'd be surprised about the success of SRS. It's very close to indistinguishable from a cis vagina. In fact, many gynecologists have trouble distinguishing the two. Self lubrication is iffy at the moment but the failure rate isn't very high. It's a very impressive process.

Oh, and at any trans women in the US looking into surgery: The gov't will help cover it or at least give you tax deductions if the cost of any major surgery is more than a certain percent of your income. As well, if you file taxes as self employed you could arguably write it off as a business expense ;)

[MrsKellyPierce]

You'd be surprised about the success of SRS. It's very close to indistinguishable from a cis vagina. In fact, many gynecologists have trouble distinguishing the two. Self lubrication is iffy at the moment but the failure rate isn't very high. It's a very impressive process.

Oh, and at any trans women in the US looking into surgery: The gov't will help cover it or at least give you tax deductions if the cost of any major surgery is more than a certain percent of your income. As well, if you file taxes as self employed you could arguably write it off as a business expense ;)
I used to work in a Laser Center where we saw a lot of post op girls after their surgeries...

was not impressed with that many

[Marie Thorne]

Eh, I guess it varies. Like any surgery I think it varies based on doctor, especially when it's something visual. Oh well.

[rockabilly]

My wife didn't believe Danielle Foxxx was post op.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Eh, I guess it varies. Like any surgery I think it varies based on doctor, especially when it's something visual. Oh well.
I think it varies on the patient...

Most of the girls went to the same doctor...

Some went to Suporn, some went to Bowers, some went to Meltzer, and some went to Brassard...

Some of their work looked really good

And others well..if they are happy..good..

I just know I wouldn't be showing it to anyone...

[MrsKellyPierce]

FYI Liberty I find the girls that have that issue of not being able to orgasm etc

Are the girls that self medicate and OVER medicate...

They are basically ruining their sex organs so if they want to go post-op the sensation will be gone already...

[LibertyHarkness]

i dunno kelly , i self medicate and am monitored under my Local GP for my all my bloods/counts etc ... so the med level i am on is no diff than if i was with doing it via NHS/Local GP .. Alot of it is simply prolonged exposure to the liver ... its the balance on where you want to sit in the scale of the feminsation process i guess .

For me i take quite a high dose these days from what i was on as i am focussed on feminsation and being older its harder for my body to absorb and deal with the hormones ... personally i couldnt really care for my dick that much .. if it works it works, when it doesnt work it doesnt work .. more than one way to skin a cat for my sexual thrills :)

I personally think its a hard area to have a right or wrong / black or white diffinitive answer etc so many variables that will affect the final results with many being down the paitents own frame of mind and what there own sexual libido is like ..

Look at people that get castrated i see so many castrated people that have healthy funcitonal sex lives.. but then on the other hand i see many TS Girls castrated that have no function at all .but then they didnt really have much function or interest in sex before ...

myself i dont really hold sex in the highest of things to do in my own time i have many others thing that excite me much more than getting laid or blowing a load .

[KittyPride]

So sometimes when I cam on cam4 or other places where I am in the straight section..

People say dumb things...

Like: "Why did you become a man, you are a gorgeous female." "Why did you get a cock, why on earth would you get rid of your vagina." Stupid crap like that...

Well anyways that had me thinking...about the female to male surgery...it's not anywhere near successful as male to female surgery...

Why couldn't they just unattach a penis from a fresh dead man or someone that is going to die..like they do with kidneys etc

And then attach it to the nerve endings and all that jazz...than bam a PENIS...

I am not trying to be funny here..though it does sound comical..

but it's just a thought...

Any doctors in the house that could explain why it wouldn't work??

By the way hubby was cringing and making crazy faces the whole time so it was really hard to have this conversation with him..

This gives you insight on how my brain works sometimes.. lol

Wow THAT WOULD BE SO HOT!
To be fucked by a dead man's penis!!!
That would sell :D

[KittyPride]

FYI Liberty I find the girls that have that issue of not being able to orgasm etc

Are the girls that self medicate and OVER medicate...

They are basically ruining their sex organs so if they want to go post-op the sensation will be gone already...

How do you medicate Kelly if I may ask?

Do you girls want to achieve a normal female range?
Or do you keep a lot of testosteron to keep everything working?

I Still masturbate and have orgams even on large dosis of estrogen...
I always thought that you just have to be sexually active to keep it alive?

[KittyPride]

I was a few years ago, but the reason I am not now is due to the fact the surgery still is not 100% accurate..

Very few girls turn out with good looking ones and ones that work...

Orgasming is important to me..

So until then no...

He loves me either way...he was supportive when I wanted to..and understands why I don't want to.

My thoughts exactly Kelly.
Also I find the sight pretty of pre op girls.. honest.
I get it that men are attracted to it.

I talked to a few post op girls who looking back would want to have stayed pre op... cause of not being satisfied with the surgery results and because it did not "cure" them from being transsexual.

[MrsKellyPierce]

How do you medicate Kelly if I may ask?

Do you girls want to achieve a normal female range?
Or do you keep a lot of testosteron to keep everything working?

I Still masturbate and have orgams even on large dosis of estrogen...
I always thought that you just have to be sexually active to keep it alive?
I go to my endocrinologist..I have always gone to one..

To make sure my levels are correct and I'm not over-medicating..

Girls must realize you don't use that much of the drug and half of it is a waste..

You are really just hurting yourself more than helping your femininity..

I always hear girls I take this and this and this and this..and I'm like omg...you are ticking time bomb waiting to die..

I at the moment go to Dr. Miller, before that I went to Dr. Odea...

And before that I went to Dr. Zeliandfeltzer < don't know if I spelled that right lol

I have always monitored everything..

[KittyPride]

I go to my endocrinologist..I have always gone to one..

To make sure my levels are correct and I'm not over-medicating..

Girls must realize you don't use that much of the drug and half of it is a waste..

You are really just hurting yourself more than helping your femininity..

I always hear girls I take this and this and this and this..and I'm like omg...you are ticking time bomb waiting to die..

I at the moment go to Dr. Miller, before that I went to Dr. Odea...

And before that I went to Dr. Zeliandfeltzer < don't know if I spelled that right lol

I have always monitored everything..

What I have always wondered... How can you tell if you are overmedicating...
I have heard girls take 6 mg of estradiol (or something) and one of them died because of complications related to the hormones (blood cloths).

My clinic precribes 4 mg. But in reality 2 mg would do right?
I never understand why we are taking twice the amount of hormones then GG's have in their blood.

At least not when you use a testosterone blocker so that estrogens dont need to be high.

I take a little testosteron in gel... on the side now... cause I had zero testosterone for a while and I felt bad.

I would like to try progesteron still also...

[GrimFusion]

What I have always wondered... How can you tell if you are overmedicating...
I have heard girls take 6 mg of estradiol (or something) and one of them died because of complications related to the hormones (blood cloths).

My clinic precribes 4 mg. But in reality 2 mg would do right?
I never understand why we are taking twice the amount of hormones then GG's have in their blood.

At least not when you use a testosterone blocker so that estrogens dont need to be high.

I take a little testosteron in gel... on the side now... cause I had zero testosterone for a while and I felt bad.

I would like to try progesteron still also...

Wouldn't that be because any GG experiences higher levels of estrogen while going through puberty as opposed to post-puberty, and you're essentially trying to mimic that?

[KittyPride]

Wouldn't that be because any GG experiences higher levels of estrogen while going through puberty as opposed to post-puberty, and you're essentially trying to mimic that?

I have no idea Grim!

What is confusing is that every docter seems to have his own idea's about it. In my country are two gender clinics and one of them doses twice as much estrogen then the other.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I have no idea Grim!

What is confusing is that every docter seems to have his own idea's about it. In my country are two gender clinics and one of them doses twice as much estrogen then the other.
I do delestrogen shots...safer than pills...

I used to do pellets where they cut a small incision in my lower butt area and insert them in and they release over time much like how a females does..

[KittyPride]

I do delestrogen shots...safer than pills...

I used to do pellets where they cut a small incision in my lower butt area and insert them in and they release over time much like how a females does..


I use patches and gels.

[Tika]

A penis is actually a fairly complex organ. It's not just a matter of "add a dick and hook up some nerves". The spongy tissue that makes up much of the volume of the shaft gets infused with blood during stimulation, so there's a lot of small blood vessels that are present. Add to that the density of nerve tissue in the area, and you're looking at a lot of work.

By contrast, making a pesudovagina is a lot easier. It's essentially just a formed opening with the head of the former penis put into place where the clitoris would be normally. Kind of like flesh-based origami. With tissue, it's a lot easier to subtract than add.

[LibertyHarkness]

i am switching to dr odea next month for 3month pellets ..