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Jhellis978
02-23-2006, 05:23 AM
Throughout this site, board members can find hundreds of threads devoted to ethnic specific t-girls (i.e. "Hottest Ladyboy" etc.). While I'm not very fond of the ts adult entertainment business, I realize that this is a board geared towards that industry and I think these threads illustrate an interesting anomaly I've observed in the "business." Relatively speaking, caucasian women, especially those of Anglo-Saxon/Anglo-Norman origins, represent a VERY small percentage of the of the models/escorts/"stars".

My question to the board is, why do you think this is?

partlycloudy
02-23-2006, 05:56 AM
:arrow:

GiaCallMe
02-23-2006, 07:03 AM
Huh ?!?

GroobySteven
02-23-2006, 07:39 AM
While I'm not very fond of the ts adult entertainment business,
Then what are you doing here?
I know the answer exactly why but will refrain from letting you know, I'm not very fond of people who are not very fond of the ts adult entertainment business.
seanchai

Jhellis978
02-23-2006, 08:03 AM
I'm here because I am attracted to ts women and I'm interested in engaing in healthy, long term, committed relationships with ts women.

I'm not making a moral judgement against the ts adult entertainment industry. Like all adult entertainment, it's just not for me.

Aedan
02-23-2006, 08:57 AM
It is a porn industry. Some call it an adult entertainment business.
Like all business or industrys there is good and bad.
Some will treat the girls fair and nice and some will exploit them.
The question is who is who.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
02-23-2006, 09:08 AM
I'm here because I am attracted to ts women and I'm interested in engaing in healthy, long term, committed relationships with ts women.

No disrespect to you Jhellis978, but does that mean you're hoping you'll meet/find that "one" special Tgirl on this porn/adult entertainment industry forum? :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

Jhellis978
02-23-2006, 09:20 AM
I'm here because I am attracted to ts women and I'm interested in engaing in healthy, long term, committed relationships with ts women.

No disrespect to you Jhellis978, but does that mean you're hoping you'll meet/find that "one" special Tgirl on this porn/adult entertainment industry forum? :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

Are you implying that EVERY girl on here is involved with the adult entertainment business harajuku girl?

Aedan
02-23-2006, 09:25 AM
I'm here because I am attracted to ts women and I'm interested in engaing in healthy, long term, committed relationships with ts women.

No disrespect to you Jhellis978, but does that mean you're hoping you'll meet/find that "one" special Tgirl on this porn/adult entertainment industry forum? :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

Getting back to the question: Someone told me that a lot of black-tgirls are being exploited by the "adult entertainment business"
She didn't tell me wich and why but i guess it is somewhat true, you see girls like Vicki, Meghan and Allanah who are more or less independent.
You never see that with black or asian girls.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
02-23-2006, 09:31 AM
I'm here because I am attracted to ts women and I'm interested in engaing in healthy, long term, committed relationships with ts women.

No disrespect to you Jhellis978, but does that mean you're hoping you'll meet/find that "one" special Tgirl on this porn/adult entertainment industry forum? :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

Are you implying that EVERY girl on here is involved with the adult entertainment business harajuku girl?

NO. Its a ligitimate question. Though far from "impying"..but the majority are in some way shape and or form involved in some sort of adult business work. Has at one time of the other modelled for an adult site, had escorted, or done porn movies..others still do. What Im saying is what are the chances youll meet a non adult involved "untainted" TS on a forum such as Hung Angel? If that makes sense?

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara_Juku Tgirl
02-23-2006, 09:42 AM
Getting back to the question: Someone told me that a lot of black-tgirls are being exploited by the "adult entertainment business"
She didn't tell me wich and why but i guess it is somewhat true, you see girls like Vicki, Meghan and Allanah who are more or less independent.
You never see that with black or asian girls.

You got a point right there. Though I hardly think its a conspiracy as much as "perhaps" it was the trend or demands for specific types of tgirls whos got a strong market for. Like for example back when brazilian models ushered in right after the super model era..Most of those where caucasians except for Naomi Campbell, Tyra Banks, Anna Baile, Kimora Lee and a few other girls of different ethnicities. Could be some girls have restrictions on what theyd like to do on films or pictures. I know asian tgirls are somewhat reserved "Tame" compared to their western tgirls counterpart. Remember back when the tranny porn sold..scenes were mostly dominated primarily by guys crossdressings and transvestites? Then hormones and surgeries came along and changed and revolutionized the whole game of trannie porn scene!

But maybe Seanchai can explain this alot better being he is the one who runs several TGirl sites. :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

WendyWilliams
02-23-2006, 10:41 AM
There is no once race dominating the scene, its supply and demand...........Sadly many girls of many races have tried and failed to make it longterm in the adult industry..............When Allanah and I started our websites within a few months of each other 3 other idependant girls did too and Allanah and I are the only two left it had NOTHING to do with our race it had to do with our business skills, determination, and hard work...........................................

Meghan Chavalier has had her website on the net since 1996, has more video releases than any other ts to date , almost 200 yet she remains low profile for a reason......................again has nothing to do with race its all about how much one paticular girl wants success or deals with success.

I highly doubt any conspiracy............Ladies of Asian and latino decent have better genetics than a girl like myself,,,,,,Ladies in Brazil start hormones and body shaping (pumping) at very early ages and have some of the best genetics to work with therefore of course you are going to see them more. To alot of American men Asian, Brazillian etc are exotic therefore they are drawn to something that is different to them............there are MANY scenarios and no specific answer to 'Why"?

Wendy

GroobySteven
02-23-2006, 11:07 AM
Ok the question is;
Why are there not more white/caucasion/anglo-saxon TS stars/escorts/models?
I'm sure many would like to say that the white tgirls don't want to work in the escort/adult industry but that's simply incorrect. There are more ethnic tgirls, out of the closet for use of a better word than anglo-saxon ones and consequently the direct % would mean less working in the adult industry.
Why?
1/ Many cultures have a more lenient attitude towards transgenders, especially many S.American and Asian countries, hence more girls start earlier or feel more comfortable about becoming themselves earlier.
2/ Physically/genetically us whiteys generally aren't very feminine. We're big built, strong features, hairy and growl when you come near. Of course, this isn't everyone but it's certainly a higher percentage than blacks/asians (often less facial hair and softer features).
3/ Religion. Gay is bad. Transgenderism is bad - blah, blah in the eyes of Christians which is where many (especially US) white TS's backgrounds come from. The S.American catholics or Filipino Catholics seem to have a more relaxed attitude to their son being gay/transgendered and don't kick them onto the streets.
4/ My theory shows that cultures which have very strong lines between masculininty and femininity, tend to have more transgenders. My point being the machoism of the S.American/Latin cultures leaves less identify for those being of a more ambiguous sexuality or type. The individual chooses a side/sexuality to be instead of just being themselves.
5/ Social issues. Sorry to burst bubbles here but many so-called TS's especially in cultures where sex trade is rife are gay or bisexual men who make a conscience decision to dress like a woman (hormones/boobs/etc) in order to make money. Take the Lisa Lawyer examples - hot TS pornstar one day, married with kids the next. Even within the US the poorer cultures tend to be blacks and latins - therefore more sex trade would come from those cultures and my example above, takes affect.

As far as the porn industry goes - whites rule. A white TS model will outsell most ethnic models as long as she's cute (and hung). Look at the amount of stars you can name who run their own businesses:
Joanna Jet - white.
Wendy Williams - white.
Vicki Richter - white.
Gia Darling - S.American but terribly white.
Allanah Starr - latin.


No disrespect to any of the ethnic girls who run their own sites and will probably eventually suceed in this business but as of Feb 2006, they haven't.

Now with everything I've stated above about whites being the biggest sellers - that only goes as far as individuals. On Grooby sites, Black Tgirls as the loyalist membership and is one of our most sucessful sites whilst Ladyboy-Ladyboy.com is one of the smallest sites but has a die-hard membership - our fastest and best selling DVD's have been featured only one ethnic type of model (Buddy Wood's Asian-American Shemale Invasion being our fastest selling ever, next to Tony Vee's Outta Control Shemales). So the guys wanting ethnic models are certainly there and we're wanting new, fresh models of any ethnic background, the hardest to get and therefore most in demand and ones who garner the most attention - are the new white girls we might feature on Shemale Yum.

...and there endeth the lesson...

seanchai

[this message is not intended to offend anyone I may have missed but gives a representation of what I see as a website/business owner.]

Aedan
02-23-2006, 11:33 AM
Ok and what about the sharks in the industry? Who are the exploiters?

DJ_Asia
02-23-2006, 02:20 PM
Both Wendy and Seanchai make excellent points (BTW Seanchai you forgot Tonya and Foxy Angel)

Genetics my friend genetics.Living in Thailand I can attest to the fact that SE Asian men are by nature very slight of build,typically have effeminite habits and voices are a bit girlish....and thats the straight men.Exceptions of course,but the transition is easier for Asian girls who require less hormones and surgery to make the transition a success.
Like i mentioned in another thread uber hung Mint is 5'1" and 85-90lbs soaking wet.

Brasil:See Wendy's observations above.

Caucasian and African American girls typically are larger of stature and builds,and lets face it,most guys arent into 6'2" 200lb girls...

Of course not all Caucasian and African American girls fit this description,and those that dont typically are very hot and succesful in this biz if they choose to be.

Also one needs to realize that in America the life of a TS isnt the easiest life to live...escorting is a dangerous game,and I personally know many girls who need to be high as kite just to see clients.A downward spiral that is hard to escape for some

To run a succesful website or create a video line like Gia and Allanah requires alot of commitment and hard work which is pretty tough when all your cash goes to the local pusher.

In Asia and Brasil drug and alcohol abuse is certainly present,but the girls there dont face near the prejudice and bullshit that American girls do.

DJ Asia

GroobySteven
02-23-2006, 09:05 PM
Ok and what about the sharks in the industry? Who are the exploiters?

I don't know any working in the US. There are a few working in Asia & Brasil who underpay but that's as far as their exploitation goes. Most Tgirls can take care of themselves.
I think the biggest exploitation going on is setting up a website with almost no content, irregular updates and poor customer service and charging $20+ a month for people to join.
seanchai

Aedan
02-23-2006, 09:34 PM
Ok and what about the sharks in the industry? Who are the exploiters?

I don't know any working in the US. There are a few working in Asia & Brasil who underpay but that's as far as their exploitation goes. Most Tgirls can take care of themselves.
I think the biggest exploitation going on is setting up a website with almost no content, irregular updates and poor customer service and charging $20+ a month for people to join.
seanchai

Yeahh you are probaly right. I know a lot of east european women are being exploited for porn.

InHouston
02-24-2006, 12:17 AM
Throughout this site, board members can find hundreds of threads devoted to ethnic specific t-girls (i.e. "Hottest Ladyboy" etc.).

Really? I thought this site was more devoted to stars of the “alternate gender specific”.



While I'm not very fond of the ts adult entertainment business, I realize that this is a board geared towards that industry

No way! You think? I thought most of these girls were discovered in local convents around the world. Wow!



and I think these threads illustrate an interesting anomaly I've observed in the "business."

I’ve noticed some peculiar anomalies hanging between the legs of all these girls myself.



Relatively speaking, caucasian women, especially those of Anglo-Saxon/Anglo-Norman origins, represent a VERY small percentage of the of the models/escorts/"stars".

Caucasian women? I thought you were referring to Caucasian TS’s.



My question to the board is, why do you think this is?

Must be a “white thing”.

chefmike
02-24-2006, 12:31 AM
It's without a doubt a vast right-wing conspiracy! And I suspect that the diabolical Ms. Richter is at the very heart of it...