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qqqqqqw
03-23-2012, 03:39 PM
The lack of good porn is killing the industry. We see the same thing over and over again. We are sick of seeing the same guys in every scene. You would have no problem getting guys as most would do it for free. We need more actual scenes instead of the boring solo stuff which makes up 90% of a website. And yet they wonder why people go to tube sites instead.

tsdvdman
03-23-2012, 04:07 PM
The lack of good porn is killing the industry. We see the same thing over and over again. We are sick of seeing the same guys in every scene. You would have no problem getting guys as most would do it for free. We need more actual scenes instead of the boring solo stuff which makes up 90% of a website. And yet they wonder why people go to tube sites instead.
I agree..good point. Also..if the "top" ts pornstars are getting 1000/half hr or even close to that escorting..then why would their heart be into making good creative porn? It makes no business sense because one scene takes maybe 3 to 4 hours and they get paid what 3, 4 maybe 500 bucks?

DarylWashington
03-23-2012, 04:18 PM
The shemale porn industry needs a male performer like ME!

Nicole Dupre
03-23-2012, 04:21 PM
I honestly think you have to be pretty vain and desperate to even bother being a TS porn model, male or female, these days. Almost everyone you deal with is a flake and everything is done on a shoestring budget. What's the incentive? A tranny award? Lol I'm sorry, but after everything I've seen this is the most unprofessional joke of an industry going. It may have had a heyday for a few years there, but that is definitely OVER.

DarylWashington
03-23-2012, 04:24 PM
I honestly think you have to be pretty vain and desperate to even bother being a TS porn model, male or female, these days. Almost everyone you deal with is a flake and everything is done on a shoestring budget. What's the incentive? A tranny award? Lol I'm sorry, but after everything I've seen this is the most unprofessional joke of an industry going. It may have had a heyday for a few years there, but that is definitely OVER.

Co-signed!!!

But me, I'm an attention whore and wanna be the biggest public figure I can be.

saifan
03-23-2012, 04:26 PM
I think the biggest value that can come as performer is in the recognition you can get when escorting. My first encounters were with girls I saw in a movie or on a website.

SunshyneMonroe
03-23-2012, 04:29 PM
I agree..good point. Also..if the "top" ts pornstars are getting 1000/half hr or even close to that escorting..then why would their heart be into making good creative porn? It makes no business sense because one scene takes maybe 3 to 4 hours and they get paid what 3, 4 maybe 500 bucks?

men get 300 not ts...

Shadycat
03-23-2012, 04:38 PM
The porn industry as a whole, is struggling these days. With free sites like XHamster, and Shemale Tube, why would people pay for porn, when they can get it for free.

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 04:43 PM
The lack of good porn is killing the industry. We see the same thing over and over again. We are sick of seeing the same guys in every scene. You would have no problem getting guys as most would do it for free. We need more actual scenes instead of the boring solo stuff which makes up 90% of a website. And yet they wonder why people go to tube sites instead.

There are dozens of SCENES produced a month across companies like Evil Angel, Devil's, SMC, Grooby, Trannybox, etc. with dozens of guys.
Life support - get the fuck out of here with your one post.
Look around, look at some of the sponsors here as there is plenty of non-solo stuff.
Look at this recent release which is awesome:
http://www.tgirls.com/videos/jay-sin-ts-playground-6343.html

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 04:44 PM
Im a real model behind this username. But I have held back from the scene as I havent met any good people on board to work with me. Any real people in the industry want to check out my portfolio and see some shots I will keep this post here so i can filter the real from the fake. thanks. we need to save the ts porn industry. ill be your superman if u let me
Put up your portfolio and prove it, otherwise, get off the bus.

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 04:46 PM
I agree..good point. Also..if the "top" ts pornstars are getting 1000/half hr or even close to that escorting..then why would their heart be into making good creative porn? It makes no business sense because one scene takes maybe 3 to 4 hours and they get paid what 3, 4 maybe 500 bucks?
I don't know any TS getting paid $500 for a scene.
How would she be a "top" ts pornstar if she never appeared in porn - and therefore get that exposure and be able to demand that figure?
Do you just say anything?

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 04:47 PM
The shemale porn industry needs a male performer like ME!

You've had plenty of opportunity to make porn but your mouth is even bigger than your ego. You want to make porn, go and shoot a scene or two.

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 04:50 PM
I honestly think you have to be pretty vain and desperate to even bother being a TS porn model, male or female, these days. Almost everyone you deal with is a flake and everything is done on a shoestring budget. What's the incentive? A tranny award? Lol I'm sorry, but after everything I've seen this is the most unprofessional joke of an industry going. It may have had a heyday for a few years there, but that is definitely OVER.

Vanity is certainly part of it. Validation is even a larger part of it. If you want to make "John Carter" and lose money, go for it. A budget is set determined on what you could reasonably expect to make from it. Higher budgets don't necessarily mean higher returns. There are only X amount of potential customers for a specific product.

I'd certainly hope the incentive isn't a Tranny Award or any industry award but it's certain;y not a joke. I fail to see how it had it's "heyday" or could be "OVER" when it was larger had more feedback, more sponsors and a wider exposure this year and will grow.

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 04:54 PM
The porn industry as a whole, is struggling these days. With free sites like [STOLEN CONTENT SITE], and [STOLEN CONTENT SITE], why would people pay for porn, when they can get it for free.

It isn't so much strugging as came down to earth (rather heavily) from the days of when you could 10x your budgets within weeks. It now runs like most businesses to with a longer amount of time and energy needed to return a profit. Companies who produce well, ensure as little of their content is out there, provide quality sites and customer service, sell well and manage to be profitable. Tube sites provide a highly inferior product compared to the websites they've stolen from.

Free content sites like this one and http://www.tgirls.com manage to also remain profitable.

I don't see most of the companies that promote or are advertised on this site, going anywhere soon.

FreddieGomez
03-23-2012, 04:55 PM
I also think some tranny need to retire, the ones who've been in this industry for 5+ years.

I get sick of seeing the same face, fresh faces are what people want to see.

Some people's ships have sunk years ago and they don't get the hint i guess.

Nikka
03-23-2012, 04:55 PM
stop downloading movies for free on the first place

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 04:57 PM
I also think some tranny need to retire, the ones who've been in this industry for 5+ years.

I get sick of seeing the same face, fresh faces are what people want to see.

Some people's ships have sunk years ago and they don't get the hint i guess.

If they're being hired for scenes or appearing on their own product then there must be a market for them. Companies rarely hire models they've used before if they don't have a call for them.

How many websites have you paid for or DVD's bought in the last 4 yrs Freddie?

FreddieGomez
03-23-2012, 04:59 PM
If they're being hired for scenes or appearing on their own product then there must be a market for them. Companies rarely hire models they've used before if they don't have a call for them.

How many websites have you paid for or DVD's bought in the last 4 yrs Freddie?

the reason i wont buy any dvd, straight or TRANNY is because after i've watched it once, i could careless to see it again. That's a waste of money in my opinion.

I don't buy any porn DVD regardless if it's tranny or not.

timxxx
03-23-2012, 05:00 PM
Kink(TS Seduction)make great shemale porn unfortunately for me, l'm not into shemales topping men.

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 05:01 PM
the reason i wont buy any dvd, straight or TRANNY is because after i've watched it once, i could careless to see it again. That's a waste of money in my opinion.

I don't buy any porn DVD regardless if it's tranny or not.

I tend to agree, there is very little I'd go back to. In the old days when there was very little material around, you would watch the same tapes or same magazines over and over again. Even the early days of the internet with sites updating one set every two weeks (Shemale Yum and Ladyboy Ladyboy).
Now there is simply too much material so websites with big back catalogues or very regular new content seems to be the way to go rather than just a DVD release.

Shadycat
03-23-2012, 05:03 PM
stop downloading movies for free on the first place
Didn't work in the music industry.
Didn't work in the video game industry.
Didn't work in the movie industry.
Will not work in the porn industry.


People are cheap bastards, and if they can get something free, they will.

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 05:10 PM
Didn't work in the music industry.
Didn't work in the video game industry.
Didn't work in the movie industry.
Will not work in the porn industry.


People are cheap bastards, and if they can get something free, they will.

Let's not turn this into the wrongs and rights of downloading and piracy - there are plenty of threads on that. Although Mr Joel Leon of New York City was served court papers today demanding his appearance in a case we're taking against him for copyright theft. :yingyang:

Wendy Summers
03-23-2012, 05:13 PM
There's more diversity in tranny porn out there but you need to look beyond the mainstream sites. Have you checked out my website? TSRockdolls? Mandy Mitchell's website? Jamie French's website? All of us are producing work which is not run of the mill TS porn.

My website's getting a lot of praise for being creative. Everything I'm shooting is grounded in my reality... I get off to shit that gets me off (and judging by my fan's reponses, it's getting them off too). Our scenes are fun and campy. For example the scene with Christian this week snarks the fact that his dick is shoved into every possible hole in tranny porn. My scene with Sadie Hawkins has been called the hottest TS on TS scene ever seen. I'm actively working to bring in new talent to the TS scene... in the coming weeks I'll have sets with new male talent, Jack, as well as fetish model Iridal Loveland with plenty more to follow.

Trailer for the Scene with Sadie is here: http://www.tgirls.com/videos/wendy-summers-managed-trailer-with-sadie-hawkins-6298.html

Trailer for one of my solo scenes, Movie Night: http://www.tgirls.com/videos/wendy-summers-movie-night-trailer-6339.html

In terms of your other concerns:

If it was so easy to find guys will and able to shoot, I would have had responses when we actively searched for men to shoot for my website. Lots of guys are willing to fuck me... few will do it on camera LOL.

In my experience the difficulties finding reliable male talent involve:
1)Their lack of willingness to be seen on film and provide the identification (Driver's license etc) necessary to meet record keeping requirements in the US
2) Their lack of willingness to be tested for STDs
3) Difficulties with some men to get and maintain an erection during the course of filming
4) Most aren't in model condition

Any guys who think they are up to it and are in model condition, contact me.

In terms of solo scenes, whether you're thrilled by those or not, it's a simple ecomonic fact - hardcores cost far more to produce and there just aren't the kind of sales necessary to fund those. Right now my budgets allow for 1 in 4 shoots to be a hardcore. As sales continue to grow we'll be looking to take that to 2 in 4, but that presumes availability of reliable talent ;).

DarylWashington
03-23-2012, 05:21 PM
You've had plenty of opportunity to make porn but your mouth is even bigger than your ego. You want to make porn, go and shoot a scene or two.

Hell yeah, hook me up sir! :)

Nicole Dupre
03-23-2012, 05:23 PM
Vanity is certainly part of it. Validation is even a larger part of it. If you want to make "John Carter" and lose money, go for it. A budget is set determined on what you could reasonably expect to make from it. Higher budgets don't necessarily mean higher returns. There are only X amount of potential customers for a specific product.

I'd certainly hope the incentive isn't a Tranny Award or any industry award but it's certain;y not a joke. I fail to see how it had it's "heyday" or could be "OVER" when it was larger had more feedback, more sponsors and a wider exposure this year and will grow.I certainly wish you luck, but I can name dozens of names of people who are not helping, only hurting, the cause. If the budget's not there, a sense of commitment, pride, and honor needs to be. It doesn't cost anything to be honorable.

The models are NOT destined to have long shelf lives anyway. None of them will age like a fine wine. You'll be in this industry far longer than any of them will, and that's as it should be imo. If this is all they have in life, they don't have much. Professional mainstream models takes steps to make a future beyond their modeling careers. Transsexual porn models generally don't, at least from what I can see.

Wendy Summers
03-23-2012, 05:26 PM
Hell yeah, hook me up sir! :)

Pick a city:

Virginia Beach, NYC, Philly, Boston

qqqqqqw
03-23-2012, 05:37 PM
There are dozens of SCENES produced a month across companies like Evil Angel, Devil's, SMC, Grooby, Trannybox, etc. with dozens of guys.
Life support - get the fuck out of here with your one post.
Look around, look at some of the sponsors here as there is plenty of non-solo stuff.
Look at this recent release which is awesome:
http://www.tgirls.com/videos/jay-sin-ts-playground-6343.html

Now my opinion isn't important based on the number of posts I have.:rolleyes:

DarylWashington
03-23-2012, 05:40 PM
Pick a city:

Virginia Beach, NYC, Philly, Boston

Any! Hook me up.

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 05:40 PM
Now my opinion isn't important based on the number of posts I have.:rolleyes:

Correct when it's your first post. :loser:

Nicole Dupre
03-23-2012, 05:41 PM
Pick a city:

Virginia Beach, NYC, Philly, Boston
Traveling to deal with flakes is a waste of time and money. I used to think if I spent a month in LA, I could accomplish plenty. But those very same people flake out when you make plans with them everywhere else! lol So why bother going to them? lol That's what I mean about a level of desperation for, as Steven pegged, validation, and just blatant vanity. People are so transparent about it too. And I used to think I had no shame? lol

I try not to mention names, but since I just mentioned him a week ago; perfect example: Christian was Tweeting how much he was enjoying a fucking hockey game in NYC on the very day he asked me to set aside time to work with him. But he was too busy to write me back to even make up an excuse. lol GTFOOH with that "no bueno" bullshit, dude. I'm not impressed with you either, if ya must know. lol

I'm not going to bring up all of them because it's not worth the energy. But there are so many fucking flakes trying to juice this lemon.

Wendy Summers
03-23-2012, 05:49 PM
Any! Hook me up.

Daryl,

Boston in April. I'm setting up a series of shoots there as we speak. DM me your email and I'll get you info.

hwbs
03-23-2012, 05:50 PM
:)
The shemale porn industry needs a male performer like ME!


How would fed ex deal without u ?

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 05:51 PM
I certainly wish you luck, but I can name dozens of names of people who are not helping, only hurting, the cause. If the budget's not there, a sense of commitment, pride, and honor needs to be. It doesn't cost anything to be honorable.

The models are NOT destined to have long shelf lives anyway. None of them will age like a fine wine. You'll be in this industry far longer than any of them will, and that's as it should be imo. If this is all they have in life, they don't have much. Professional mainstream models takes steps to make a future beyond their modeling careers. Transsexual porn models generally don't, at least from what I can see.

I'm not sure what cause you mean?

The nature of adult modeling is to be the new face - very few models in any genre become iconic, I'd argue the TS niche has probably a higher percentage per amount of those models than most niches.

Wendy Summers
03-23-2012, 05:53 PM
:)


How would fed ex deal without u ?

I'm sure someone else can hold onto packages as well as Daryl can. :dancing:

Nicole Dupre
03-23-2012, 05:53 PM
I'm not sure what cause you mean?

The nature of adult modeling is to be the new face - very few models in any genre become iconic, I'd argue the TS niche has probably a higher percentage per amount of those models than most niches.
The "cause" of simply getting shit done. lol

Nicole Dupre
03-23-2012, 05:55 PM
I'd argue the TS niche has probably a higher percentage per amount of those models than most niches.
You don't have to argue. I agree. lol

DarylWashington
03-23-2012, 05:56 PM
:)


How would fed ex deal without u ?

I can do both :)

GroobySteven
03-23-2012, 05:59 PM
The "cause" of simply getting shit done. lol

Ahhh ... that cause.

Wendy Summers
03-23-2012, 06:08 PM
I can do both :)

Daryl,

An email has been sent.

ed_jaxon
03-23-2012, 06:12 PM
I think Daryl is a goofball but he is a creative goofball.

I admit if he wrote and produced a goofy movie I would watch it. Combining porn and his seven year old mindset would be classic.

Wendy Summers
03-23-2012, 06:14 PM
Combining porn and his seven year old mindset would be classic.

This is why I want him for my site. :)

TempestTS
03-23-2012, 06:55 PM
Co-signed!!!

But me, I'm an attention whore and wanna be the biggest public figure I can be.

Hmmm sounds slightly mentally unstable and lacking any concept of reality.

You're Hired! Now get your ass to Minneapolis.

BellaBellucci
03-23-2012, 07:07 PM
Hmmm sounds slightly mentally unstable and lacking any concept of reality.

What did you expect from a 'latent tranny?' :?




Nah. I'm messing! You know I <3 you Daryl! :lol:

~BB~

lifeisfiction
03-23-2012, 07:35 PM
I do think the op has partially a good point. Some porn feels generic. Even with popular studios many movies remind me of music albums. One or two good scenes and the rest of the scenes are meh. Once in a while you get a movie that rocks. There are tons of problems I feel in where movies are heading today. Is it the male performers, sometimes. Is it the female performers, sometimes. Is it the director, again sometimes. Now of course I may have my personal preference that does not fit the rest of the porn watching world, still I feel that with so much saturation of porn these days its hard to be creative, not impossible, just hard.

Wendy Summers
03-23-2012, 10:23 PM
hrmm... still haven't heard back from Daryl about my email...

TSMichelleAustin
03-23-2012, 11:55 PM
I, like Wendy Summers, Mandy Mitchell, Brittany St. Jordan and some others are doing our own thing. We are producing stuff that gets us off. It all depends what you like... I dont want to be over saturated like some girls who come into this biz. The problem I see is that the girl that comes through as the next big thing, is shot on every site within one year. Once she is so over saturated then she slowly dies because by then the next big star is out.

Then you have girls like myself, Wendy, Mandy, Brittany, etc who are about producing their own stuff and doing what gets them off. For me there is no "White" BBW TS doing what I am doing. For one because its not accepted in this industry. It is more okay for a black girl to be big then it is for white. WHich is why I just crossed over to BBW porn world as being first TS to be nominated with other BBW Pornstars for their awards. So I am out there producing my own stuff, and doing things I enjoy. I get a lot of people emailing me enjoying what I am doing. Even in my solo stuff I am being creative and not doing same ole jack off session. I have fucked a pie, pissed into champagne glass and drank it and so on. So there are girls doing things out of the norm you just gotta know where to look.

I am about to shoot a DVD that will be forced bi and cockold stuff. Which really isnt out there in tranny porn, more so in str8. I am doing it because I am into that and enjoy that not everyone is. I am also shooting with my first female in few wks where she will teach me to eat her pussy, and another scene with James Darling a female to male transsexual. Plus with a new photographer and video people with the same creative mind as me we are making my site even better for a low cost!

DarylWashington
03-24-2012, 12:05 AM
hrmm... still haven't heard back from Daryl about my email...

I got it, I'll reply lol.

lifeisfiction
03-24-2012, 12:18 AM
Michelle keep innovation and creativity alive. There is hope for all us one hand slappers.

undercvrslut
03-24-2012, 12:40 AM
Wendy im ready-to-go. Set me up in NYC

Mr. Sinister
03-24-2012, 01:47 AM
My problems with Tranny porn:

1) Most Genetic Female porn is fully bareback. No condoms used. Tranny porn has condoms and it seems that transsexual performers are holding back because of STD concerns. There needs to be more barebacking in American TS porn. Condoms ruin porn scenes. Porn is a fantasy and condoms ruin that fantasy. I applaud those TS performers that do bareback scenes.

2) Like their genetic female counterparts, transsexuals need to swallow cum on camera. It seems most American transsexuals are afraid of cum and semen. I don't remember ever seeing an American transsexual swallowing a man's cum on camera.

3) It seems in every transsexual scene filmed in the United States, Christian XXX and Tom Moore are involved. There needs to be new male talent!

4) I wish more American transsexuals would do gangbang scenes.

Teydyn
03-24-2012, 02:25 AM
1) I so dont care for bareback. Why risk the lives of the performers?

3) Stop complaining. Train yourself a showable body if you dont have one and become the next star yourself. You dont want to? Others neither...

onmyknees
03-24-2012, 02:43 AM
the reason i wont buy any dvd, straight or TRANNY is because after i've watched it once, i could careless to see it again. That's a waste of money in my opinion.

I don't buy any porn DVD regardless if it's tranny or not.



LMAO....a real big time supporter of the girls, and the industry............obviously.

Wendy Summers
03-24-2012, 04:07 AM
I, like Wendy Summers, Mandy Mitchell, Brittany St. Jordan and some others are doing our own thing. We are producing stuff that gets us off. It all depends what you like... I dont want to be over saturated like some girls who come into this biz. The problem I see is that the girl that comes through as the next big thing, is shot on every site within one year. Once she is so over saturated then she slowly dies because by then the next big star is out.

Then you have girls like myself, Wendy, Mandy, Brittany, etc who are about producing their own stuff and doing what gets them off. For me there is no "White" BBW TS doing what I am doing. For one because its not accepted in this industry. It is more okay for a black girl to be big then it is for white. WHich is why I just crossed over to BBW porn world as being first TS to be nominated with other BBW Pornstars for their awards. So I am out there producing my own stuff, and doing things I enjoy. I get a lot of people emailing me enjoying what I am doing. Even in my solo stuff I am being creative and not doing same ole jack off session. I have fucked a pie, pissed into champagne glass and drank it and so on. So there are girls doing things out of the norm you just gotta know where to look.

I am about to shoot a DVD that will be forced bi and cockold stuff. Which really isnt out there in tranny porn, more so in str8. I am doing it because I am into that and enjoy that not everyone is. I am also shooting with my first female in few wks where she will teach me to eat her pussy, and another scene with James Darling a female to male transsexual. Plus with a new photographer and video people with the same creative mind as me we are making my site even better for a low cost!

Fuck... this is why I never name names - I always forget people. LOL Michelle's shit is awesome and definitely is out of the ordinary.


Wendy im ready-to-go. Set me up in NYC

Responded to


My problems with Tranny porn:

1) Most Genetic Female porn is fully bareback. No condoms used. Tranny porn has condoms and it seems that transsexual performers are holding back because of STD concerns. There needs to be more barebacking in American TS porn. Condoms ruin porn scenes. Porn is a fantasy and condoms ruin that fantasy. I applaud those TS performers that do bareback scenes.

2) Like their genetic female counterparts, transsexuals need to swallow cum on camera. It seems most American transsexuals are afraid of cum and semen. I don't remember ever seeing an American transsexual swallowing a man's cum on camera.

3) It seems in every transsexual scene filmed in the United States, Christian XXX and Tom Moore are involved. There needs to be new male talent!

4) I wish more American transsexuals would do gangbang scenes.

3) Again, a number of us have been actively searching -- finding reliable male talent is an ongoing issue.

4) See my answer to #3. I'd love to shoot a blow bang and a Gang bang but getting tested, capable bodies is an issue.

buttslinger
03-24-2012, 04:34 AM
If you clear a grand every week, you'll make 52K/yr. And work til you're 62, here in the states. Show Biz is a tuff biz.

RallyCola
03-24-2012, 06:56 AM
my 2cents!

as part of the nature of success...production houses will follow the formula that has proven successful. that in turn has lead to quite a bit of cookie cutter porn. either the same scene style or same performers (tgirl and male)

while sometimes the model may be a "classic," sometimes a popular reshoot and other times the model might be new to the scene...it doesn't really matter because for these larger sites, 9 times out of 10 you know exactly what to expect.

when a site thinks it has found a new it girl...or when a girl thinks she is the next it girl...as many of you have said. there is always an almost identical launch on multiple sites followed by over saturation as the major producers all try to one-up each other and now...a solo site is usually soon to follow.

this has been the pattern and it will not soon be broken

now...even within the niche community that is tgirl porn...subniches are being created...whether naturally occurring (fan or model inspired) or company sponsored (raw tranny fisting, ts seduction, tgirl pinups, etc).

the result is that there are quite a few sites, major, minor and solo sites, that are in competition for the consumer's dollar. with so many avenues to choose from, the quality has to suffer. it is simply a fact that there cannot be 100s of Grade A quality scenes produced to cover so many sites each month. There has to be quite a bit of crap produced. It is just that because the audience is so diverse...one man's crap is another's treasure.

that is where we are at...as producers (large and small) are trying to be as profitable as possible, they find themselves carving up a pie, a group of consumers, that have their own preferences and biases and thus, the overall quality of work has suffered. the more diversified tgirl porn becomes, at least to this consumer, the more niche specific it becomes.

now...i want you guys to realize that this is not a condemnation of your ability to make money. i am a capitalist through and through and as a producer (solo or large company) you guys have every right to make as much money as possible. i contest that this system is only sustainable as long as the consumer remains somewhat gullible.

christianxxx
03-24-2012, 10:31 AM
Traveling to deal with flakes is a waste of time and money. I used to think if I spent a month in LA, I could accomplish plenty. But those very same people flake out when you make plans with them everywhere else! lol So why bother going to them? lol That's what I mean about a level of desperation for, as Steven pegged, validation, and just blatant vanity. People are so transparent about it too. And I used to think I had no shame? lol

I try not to mention names, but since I just mentioned him a week ago; perfect example: Christian was Tweeting how much he was enjoying a fucking hockey game in NYC on the very day he asked me to set aside time to work with him. But he was too busy to write me back to even make up an excuse. lol GTFOOH with that "no bueno" bullshit, dude. I'm not impressed with you either, if ya must know. lol

I'm not going to bring up all of them because it's not worth the energy. But there are so many fucking flakes trying to juice this lemon.

PS - i have never been to a hockey game in my life. i fucking can't stand that sport. so that's the first lie.

second i haven't been to NYC in 4 years. and i don't even remember what you are referring to, but i wasn't a producer of shemale porn so what would i have been shooting you for?

third, when i was in nyc 4 years ago, i was shooting 2 scenes a day for 5 days and then went home, so i wouldn't have booked anything else bc i had no time.

you keep bringing this up like it was some earth shattering revelation for you, yet i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. you either need to move forward in life or stop doing mind altering substances. one of the two.

Nicole Dupre
03-24-2012, 01:02 PM
PS - i have never been to a hockey game in my life. i fucking can't stand that sport. so that's the first lie.

second i haven't been to NYC in 4 years. and i don't even remember what you are referring to, but i wasn't a producer of shemale porn so what would i have been shooting you for?

third, when i was in nyc 4 years ago, i was shooting 2 scenes a day for 5 days and then went home, so i wouldn't have booked anything else bc i had no time.

you keep bringing this up like it was some earth shattering revelation for you, yet i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. you either need to move forward in life or stop doing mind altering substances. one of the two.
Hockey. Basketball. Whatever your stupid game was, you blew me off so you're the liar. And it was 3 years ago. I moved on pretty smoothly. Lol You brought my name up and called me a hater. Who was even talking to you? Lol Get a life, flake. I don't use drugs and I don't lie.

DarylWashington
03-24-2012, 06:30 PM
I thought all white people loved hockey? That's why it rhymes with honkey.

Mr. Sinister
03-24-2012, 08:26 PM
1) I so dont care for bareback. Why risk the lives of the performers?

3) Stop complaining. Train yourself a showable body if you dont have one and become the next star yourself. You dont want to? Others neither...

An adult performer is far less likely to get a STD during a porn shoot than in their personal lives. This is a fact. For over 30 plus years, the mainstream porn industry has shot scenes of men with women with no condoms. Why? Condoms ruin a porno and the fantasy. As long as a male and transsexual performer get tested before a shoot, the chances of transmission of an STD are slim. If genetic females are willing to have sex with no condoms, I don't see why transsexuals will not.

Joey Silvera has shot most of his transsexual porn films without condoms. His films are great because the performers are not holding back because of STD concerns. People like Joey Silvera understand what a porno should look like.

SammiValentine
03-24-2012, 08:36 PM
I thought all white people loved hockey? That's why it rhymes with honkey.

hockey is gay, rhymes with cocky

x

SammiValentine
03-24-2012, 08:41 PM
I also think some tranny need to retire, the ones who've been in this industry for 5+ years.

I get sick of seeing the same face, fresh faces are what people want to see.

Some people's ships have sunk years ago and they don't get the hint i guess.

Totally different shelf life for trans models, especially if your career commences right at the start of transition until the end game, yes there is a point when people should stop.

Girls lose/gain "fans" and "admirers" as we evolve and change. Its different to a female model "changing her look"

To be fair everytime you check a new major website the next "superstar" is appearing, fresh faces all over the show ??!!?!

Icanthelpmyself
03-24-2012, 09:33 PM
Yoy know I don't mind that the material is far between what gets me it not enough plots storyline situation scenes. One I would like to see a nice ebony shemale flashing on a guy that knows what she is. Watch as she tease him and watch her get hard and the guys hot and hard with desire fall to the floor and worship her to a hot climax. My second involves a time when I was locked up and I met a lationo TS. She was fine passable she had a banana shape that was about 8" damn was it pretty she walked around in her cell naked with a hard-on jerking it off teasing those that want to watch, her fuckin cum shot drove me crazy. My next one is a realistic scene where some T-girls rape a wiseass str8 guy hearing him beg the girls not to take his virgin ass and mouth. Seanchia cant you make it happen :)!!

Ben
03-24-2012, 09:42 PM
There are dozens of SCENES produced a month across companies like Evil Angel, Devil's, SMC, Grooby, Trannybox, etc. with dozens of guys.
Life support - get the fuck out of here with your one post.
Look around, look at some of the sponsors here as there is plenty of non-solo stuff.
Look at this recent release which is awesome:
http://www.tgirls.com/videos/jay-sin-ts-playground-6343.html

Who's the T-Girl beside Mandy at the 46 second mark?

http://www.tgirls.com/videos/jay-sin-ts-playground-6343.html

tvkim
03-24-2012, 09:47 PM
Tube sites......

One of the reasons I concentrate on members only Cam shows now.

I you don't produce videos, they can't get posted on the tube sites.

They were a good tool to promote at first, but now they are killing the industry.

Just my opinion

RallyCola
03-24-2012, 10:22 PM
am i going to be the only one to point out that the dvd that so many of you are heralding as awesome just rehashed 2 scenes that were up on solo sites for a while???

kimber and christian as on her site already.
mandy scene with the ggirl was also on her site as well.

doesn't anyone see a problem with that? it lessens the quality of the dvd since, at least to this subscriber, 2 scenes are "dated"

that's the problem with dvd releases...there is no way that they can keep pace with websites.

on the same vein...when was the last grooby/yum/pornstar/japan dvd not just a rehash of the website material?

this to me, despite the exclusive dvd only scenes in Jay Sin's release, is indicative of a major issue in porn today.

GroobySteven
03-24-2012, 11:18 PM
on the same vein...when was the last grooby/yum/pornstar/japan dvd not just a rehash of the website material?

this to me, despite the exclusive dvd only scenes in Jay Sin's release, is indicative of a major issue in porn today.

It's no issue whatsoever. Two different delivery methods for often, two different markets.

EZWind
03-24-2012, 11:23 PM
Joey Silvera has shot most of his transsexual porn films without condoms. His films are great because the performers are not holding back because of STD concerns. People like Joey Silvera understand what a porno should look like.

Top Dog fer sure...as far as what it should Look like
...when it comes to the Soundtrack however...epic failure
...I got 2 words for ya Joe...shut the fuck up
...you wanna do your little interview/chat intro thing that's fine, but once the action starts just put a sock in it already and get out of the way or at least edit yourself out of the final cut if ya just can't help it
...sorry for the rant...just a little pet peeve of mine...I know they all do it but it just frosts my flakes that it ruins an otherwise transcendent viewing experience, so to speak

TatianaSummer
03-24-2012, 11:24 PM
I think I remember some CPR :)

Mr. Sinister
03-25-2012, 12:06 AM
Joey Silvera is the only one who understands how to shoot transsexual porn. He understands that condoms ruin porno films, which is why he lets his performers perform without them. If a porn starlet like Nina Hartley can have sex with men without condoms for 30 plus years, why can't transsexuals? I would love to see an American transsexual swallow a man's cum. There are so many porno films where women swallow a man's cum. As I have stated, the biggest problem in TS porn industry is that performers are holding back because of STD concerns. I can't even remember the last time an American transsexual performer received a facial from a male performer.

rydermorrison
03-25-2012, 12:43 AM
Joey Silvera is the only one who understands how to shoot transsexual porn. He understands that condoms ruin porno films, which is why he lets his performers perform without them. If a porn starlet like Nina Hartley can have sex with men without condoms for 30 plus years, why can't transsexuals? I would love to see an American transsexual swallow a man's cum. There are so many porno films where women swallow a man's cum. As I have stated, the biggest problem in TS porn industry is that performers are holding back because of STD concerns. I can't even remember the last time an American transsexual performer received a facial from a male performer.

devils films has a few scenes with facials. I know for a fact facials are features on the dvd i did with them.

adude444
03-25-2012, 01:33 AM
Everyone has their own likes and dislikes and the porn industry tries to cover them as they may come up. I actually prefer solo Trannies and practically own the entire She-male strokers series. So if you aren't seeing enough of what you want bring it up but don't bash the other gendres. Better yet maybe put out some cash of our own and film what you want.

ts interrupted
03-25-2012, 04:34 PM
There are dozens of SCENES produced a month across companies like Evil Angel, Devil's, SMC, Grooby, Trannybox, etc. with dozens of guys.
Life support - get the fuck out of here with your one post.
Look around, look at some of the sponsors here as there is plenty of non-solo stuff.
Look at this recent release which is awesome:
http://www.tgirls.com/videos/jay-sin-ts-playground-6343.html

If Jay continues to experiment more like he did in that movie then you can bet all of his TS releases are going to be blockbusters. All of his movies are hot, slick and stylish.

DarylWashington
03-25-2012, 05:47 PM
More thug on non-black TS porn will bring the industry out the slump!
Capital D f/ Coda-P & K Beamma - Soldier Life - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFL5OGjCD6c)

Nowhere
03-25-2012, 05:52 PM
Honestly, I don't get the OP on this. I think it's better than ever, expanding into all sorts of different things, and with more and more girls actually enjoying their scenes, versus doing it for the dollar. Maybe he's just looking at all of the same old places, which obviously will get boring.

Nicole Dupre
03-25-2012, 05:52 PM
More thug on non-black TS porn will bring the industry out the slump!
Capital D f/ Coda-P & K Beamma - Soldier Life - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFL5OGjCD6c)
Wait. Wasn't Jamie going to make a call and have you put in the hospital? How are you typing this with two broken arms? ;) LOL

DarylWashington
03-25-2012, 05:55 PM
Wait. Wasn't Jamie going to make a call and have you put in the hospital? How are you typing this with two broken arms? ;) LOL

I end up raping Jamie and her entire band for attempting to jump me, I taught them a serious lesson, The STF is UNSTOPPABLE!!

SammiValentine
03-25-2012, 06:23 PM
loool

RallyCola
03-25-2012, 07:27 PM
re: joey silvera

i find is stuff to be too damn cookie cutter. i really am no longer a fan of his work because its no longer outstanding. its not bad...but the RA series has really dropped off alot for me.

Schimmel
03-25-2012, 08:30 PM
re: joey silvera

i find is stuff to be too damn cookie cutter. i really am no longer a fan of his work because its no longer outstanding. its not bad...but the RA series has really dropped off alot for me.
Gotta disagree. Just google the guy and you get "fearless sexual pioneer Joey Silvera..." If that doesn't sum him up then I don't know what does.

Dropped off alot? Have you seen Rogue 37? His scene with Genesis is amazing imo, easily the standout of the dvd. You have to consider Joey's work as a whole, and when you do it's beyond outstanding. The man himself is legendary for simply carrying on so long. When you say something like "I am no longer a fan of Joey Silvera because his work is no longer outstanding," you not only must have ADHD, but you're kind of a jackass for expecting stars and rainbows out of a mere mortal.

evilenglishman
03-25-2012, 08:46 PM
Hi
First time poster here. Ive worked in the (not TS) porn industry for 15+ years and I'm not surprised the industry is in crisis - but i think in a way, its a good thing.

Firstly there is far too much porn produced. Each month hundreds of new dvds are released - this is true of hollywood too. But with porn there is far too much supply and not enough demand.

Secondly most of what is produced is junk - this can also be said with hollywood although to a far lesser degree (mainly because hollywood employs professionals - and im talking about people behind the camera here).

This crisis is just what the whole porn industry needs - to flush out the crap til only the best is left.

Ive met a lot of people over the years and can honestly say, there are a lot are idiots in the industry. It attracts people like this (more than any other industry) because they think it will be an easy living, at least easier than getting a 'real' job. Outside of porn they would probably be used car salesmen.

A second reason people are attracted to the industry is they think they will get to fuck lots of beautiful girls (or in our case, TS's) - the rest is secondary.

You put the combination of all that together and the result isn't going to be anything but bad.

But also look at the price of adult dvds.
I can buy top hollywood movies on dvd in the UK for around $5, yet people want $35 for an average hardcore dvd - why? They certainly are not worth that.
A hollywood movie could have a budget of $50 million with top actors, a porn movie could have a $15 thousand budget with no acting talent at all.

Companies like brazzers got it right, shoot scenes not movies. Sell scenes, sell performers - not movie titles or directors.
There generally arent even directors in porn (people like andrew blake aside) they are just cameramen with egos ;)

As for performers, I think they get better. Better looking, even better acting skills. Its not them that are the problem, its the people behind the cameras, but hopefully this crisis will reate a bit of natural selection. :)

pantybulge69
03-25-2012, 10:03 PM
i don't think i still have heard valid argument why TS porn is on "life support."what is awfully boring porn to one viewer is good porn to another. It's in the eyes of the beholder. there's a few solo scenes but there's also plenty upon plenty of interaction scenes. Funny how someone mention tired of seeing the same performing guys in TS porn and i don't know if that has to do with few available professional male performers, if they can handle bottom-scenes than others, contractual bind with key
TS- producing studios (White ghetto,devil films,Channel 69, etc.) My attention has been so much on the girls that i never paid that much attention to the faces of the guys.and excuse me for asking but isn't the video view stuff on shemaletube,hamster,Youporn,Redtube, etc. excerps from the very DVD films we previously watched ?

Mayrah
03-25-2012, 11:24 PM
What i think thats sucks a bit about the TS porn industry is the pace of work for a model that has no solo site, which i think is the reason of condom use. You might only shoot 1/2 scenes a month if you live in the area of a photographer, its less if you do not. Add b/g scenes and it gets worse, so why risk it for the 1 actual sex scene in 1/2/3 months time.

RallyCola
03-26-2012, 01:54 AM
Gotta disagree. Just google the guy and you get "fearless sexual pioneer Joey Silvera..." If that doesn't sum him up then I don't know what does.

Dropped off alot? Have you seen Rogue 37? His scene with Genesis is amazing imo, easily the standout of the dvd. You have to consider Joey's work as a whole, and when you do it's beyond outstanding. The man himself is legendary for simply carrying on so long. When you say something like "I am no longer a fan of Joey Silvera because his work is no longer outstanding," you not only must have ADHD, but you're kind of a jackass for expecting stars and rainbows out of a mere mortal.


that's for proving my point. there are so many different tastes that as tranny porn expands...it actually just caters to one segment of the audience more than others. joey lost me as an avid fan a while ago. that doesn't mean he isn't still popular...it just means that as he continues to make his brand and style of porn, some people love him and others can do without him.

So...while the statement that the tranny porn industry is on life support isn't accurate, it is at a point where I find it splintered and difficult to get what I am interested in. That alarms me as a consumer.

evilenglishman
03-26-2012, 11:43 AM
So...while the statement that the tranny porn industry is on life support isn't accurate, it is at a point where I find it splintered and difficult to get what I am interested in. That alarms me as a consumer.

I think it is accurate, but its also accurate for the adult industry as a whole, not just one segment of it.

Companies are going bust everywhere, i know one company who has got rid of around 80 people over the past 2 years and will soon be filing for bankrupcy - and they are a HUGE name in the business and have been for over 30 years.
Its affecting everyone from the top right through to the bottom.

evilenglishman
03-26-2012, 01:05 PM
What i think thats sucks a bit about the TS porn industry is the pace of work for a model that has no solo site, which i think is the reason of condom use. You might only shoot 1/2 scenes a month if you live in the area of a photographer, its less if you do not. Add b/g scenes and it gets worse, so why risk it for the 1 actual sex scene in 1/2/3 months time.

you are totally right about that and its something the average porn buyer doesnt even consider. Someone else also mentioned earlier that when a "model" can get $1000 for escorting why make porn when you get paid a lot less for doing the same thing?

RallyCola
03-26-2012, 01:06 PM
I think it is accurate, but its also accurate for the adult industry as a whole, not just one segment of it.

Companies are going bust everywhere, i know one company who has got rid of around 80 people over the past 2 years and will soon be filing for bankrupcy - and they are a HUGE name in the business and have been for over 30 years.
Its affecting everyone from the top right through to the bottom.

so porn isn't a strong commodity to invest in? I was sure for long term growth, it was a safe bet.

tsmandy
03-26-2012, 11:54 PM
Jay let me and Kimber use those scenes for our sites because he's a sweet guy who wants us to succeed. Originally he was just shooting that scene of me and Adrianna as a favor to me, but he loved it so much he paid me for the scene & it was a content trade. I don't have DVD distribution and it makes me really happy that scene is available on DVD.


am i going to be the only one to point out that the dvd that so many of you are heralding as awesome just rehashed 2 scenes that were up on solo sites for a while???

kimber and christian as on her site already.
mandy scene with the ggirl was also on her site as well.

doesn't anyone see a problem with that? it lessens the quality of the dvd since, at least to this subscriber, 2 scenes are "dated"

that's the problem with dvd releases...there is no way that they can keep pace with websites.

on the same vein...when was the last grooby/yum/pornstar/japan dvd not just a rehash of the website material?

this to me, despite the exclusive dvd only scenes in Jay Sin's release, is indicative of a major issue in porn today.

tsmandy
03-27-2012, 12:06 AM
All this speculation. Bah.

I seem to keep finding ways to convince people to make porn with/for me & knock on wood, I still have not run afoul of the law, so it is working for me.

I truly believe that if a girl keeps a positive mind frame, doesn't get wrapped up in drama, dead ends, or competitive self loathing, then the sky is the limit for what she can achieve. Easier said than done, but its my opinion on porn.

xo