Breaking News on Ms. Fluke

[onmyknees]

It appears struggling Georgetown Law Student and full time consumer of birth control products, is on spring break out in Southern California with her boyfriend ( son of a huge Democratic bundler). Looks like when given the choice between spring break and birth control , she opted for the sun and fun....Who knows....maybe President Obama had a word with her about where to go on vacation during his call of concern to her....after all, he's an expert on the subject. From Joan of Ark to beer pong in a week !!!!!! You can't make this shit up. :dancing:

[buttslinger]

You, Rush, Issa, and THESE guys can party hard at your Republican fund raiser this weekend.

[giovanni_hotel]

She's thirty years old and in law school. I doubt she's hanging out on the beach with teeny boppers getting wasted.

I'm all for pointing out hypocrisy, but there's no bullseye to draw on Ms. Fluke. The GOP needs to stop trying to put a padlock on pussy.

The best way to prevent abortions is by supporting the availability of birth control in health insurance plans.

[onmyknees]

You, Rush, Issa, and THESE guys can party hard at your Republican fund raiser this weekend.


Cute...but where does a 30 year old law student/activist fit in with 5 men of the cloth called to testify as experts to discuss the subject of Obama's encroachment on religious institutions? The answer is she doesn't......but you libs keep trying the bait and switch.....and that's why they created thier own dog and pony show were she could have all the spotlight ...nice work finding that pic, but totally and completely irrelevent.

[Faldur]

The GOP needs to stop trying to put a padlock on pussy.

Who is putting a padlock on her lady parts? She is free to do and use what ever she would like. But the day the government starts to pay for recreational drugs, they better be sending me a truck load of Samuel Adams.

How does anyone make the reach that someone is trying to take something away from this lady? Are really at the point that we expect the federal government to pay for recreational activities?

[onmyknees]

She's thirty years old and in law school. I doubt she's hanging out on the beach with teeny boppers getting wasted.

I'm all for pointing out hypocrisy, but there's no bullseye to draw on Ms. Fluke. The GOP needs to stop trying to put a padlock on pussy.

The best way to prevent abortions is by supporting the availability of birth control in health insurance plans.


Missed the point GH. No one said she was tossing a Frisbee on the beach. The point is....half her testimony was lamenting the monetary hardship her and her fellow law students were undergoing by having to purchase their own birth control. ( gasp) Hey....it's a free country and I'm glad she's getting some sun and fun.....just don't cry crocodile tears about the cost of birth control ( 9 bucks a month at Wal_Mart) while playing on the west coast with your Democratically connected beau. If you can't see the hypocrisy, I can't help ya.
I'd like my condoms , and perhaps my Viagra sometime in the future, if I need it to be covered by my health plan...but it's not....and I'd like you to pay for that .....it's very important to maintaining a good healthy sexual relationship, so please pony up. You liberals should understand my sexual dependency and pay for it.
Many health care plans do cover both birth control and Viagra...not a problem with me. And I'll keep repeating this until all the progressives get it...so once more for effect.... the real point here is.....you can't force either religious institutions to pay for it...or by proxy force their insurance providers to pay for it if they're morally opposed. That's simply Unconstitutional...period. It's astonishing to me that anyone who read the Constitution aloud with their 5th grade teacher can't grasp this fundamental concept, let alone college grads. It's scary actually. That's what's this is about. I understand you all are Obama zombies, but at some point you have to cut through the fog....and keep the founding documents in mind....and not the need of the day. You have to keep the issues of birth control, and religious encroachment separate. And in the case of Ms. Fluke, she applied to a Jesuit run Catholic University knowing full well they didn't cover contraception. The whole thing is a ruse, and you all got sucked in.

[buttslinger]

Isn't insurance really communism? And isn't religion big business? Why should birth control come under the heading of medicine? Why does mitcn mcconnell always look like he just took a dump in his pants? Why should a law student be able to testify in court when issa can drag religion in there, oh, sorry, that was obama.
Obama just grabbed 5 points in women voters!
Get the point?

[BluegrassCat]

Wow, what an utter FAIL: a whole thread that proves that this whole issue really is about the GOP attacking women. When are you misogynists gonna get it? This issue was never about Ms. Fluke, it was about Limbaugh sliming and shaming a woman for daring to mention the health care needs of women that make you uncomfortable. If you had an ounce of decency or intellectual honesty you would condemn Limbaugh's comments and call it a day. But you don't! You post photoshipped pics of her with condoms, devote entire threads to her spring break, doing opposition research on her like she was the story! Get it through your fucking right wing extremist skulls: she is not the story! That you keep making her the story only shows what's really driving you here: a hatred of women who step of bounds and demand that they be treated as equals in our society. But you can't accept that, so you trash her, stalk her movements, call her a slut, a prostitute, a hypocrite, anything to undermine her and the cause of gender equality.
Politically, I'm all for you doing this. It's political suicide as the recent polls and Limbaugh's sponsor exodus (now over 50) have shown. But morally it's repugnant. It reeks of an immature and bullying mentality, hopelessly insecure and ridiculously aggressive. And so of course, it fits the OP to a T.

[onmyknees]

Wow, what an utter FAIL: a whole thread that proves that this whole issue really is about the GOP attacking women. When are you misogynists gonna get it? This issue was never about Ms. Fluke, it was about Limbaugh sliming and shaming a woman for daring to mention the health care needs of women that make you uncomfortable. If you had an ounce of decency or intellectual honesty you would condemn Limbaugh's comments and call it a day. But you don't! You post photoshipped pics of her with condoms, devote entire threads to her spring break, doing opposition research on her like she was the story! Get it through your fucking right wing extremist skulls: she is not the story! That you keep making her the story only shows what's really driving you here: a hatred of women who step of bounds and demand that they be treated as equals in our society. But you can't accept that, so you trash her, stalk her movements, call her a slut, a prostitute, a hypocrite, anything to undermine her and the cause of gender equality.
Politically, I'm all for you doing this. It's political suicide as the recent polls and Limbaugh's sponsor exodus (now over 50) have shown. But morally it's repugnant. It reeks of an immature and bullying mentality, hopelessly insecure and ridiculously aggressive. And so of course, it fits the OP to a T.


On another thread someone was lamenting about the course language....and for the most part I agree............except in your case. How can you have a gentle dialogue with a dupe?



Look....once and for all .....Ms. Fluke inserted herself ( or someone inserted her) into the discussion because the liberals were getting hammered on the issue of religious liberty. When you have Cardinal Dolan calling you a liar....( as he did in so many words) things are not going well. As a political issue, it was becoming a real problem for Obama and the libs.....( it still will be...mark my words) so enter Ms. Fluke to change the discussion from an encroachment of religious liberty to a WAR ON WOMEN. Back peddle a little bit, say you've changed your position....but really don't change much except to shift the cost....You have to manage the crisis, and change the discussion. Didn't you see a preview of this when Stepanopolous asked the question of Romney out of left field at a debate...or are you so stupid you think that was coincidence ? Who the fuck was talking about birth control? They dragged up some old tape of Santorum saying some goofy shit, but nobody else was discussing it. Go back and listen to Romney's answer....that's the position of the Republican party. Obama needed to change the narrative quickly, and as far as I've been able to tell, she was not escorted to appear at gunpoint. She did so voluntary.....now she's inserted herself into the national discussion. He motives, her testimony, and her words become a matter of public record and scrutiny. If Joe the Plumber went before a sub sub committee, made of nothing but far right Republicans, you fuckers would be howling for years....so don't act like we shouldn't dissect Ms. Flukes testimony or her motives.
Did she deserve to be called names....No.........but don't give me that feigned fucking outrage. You misogynistic mother fuckers have been engaged in far worse for years, and instead of being outraged...you call it humor. So fuck off with your sympathy for Ms. Fluke...I'm not buyin' it. But that gig is up....we're calling you out on it now.....
And you're probably one of the ones who pissed his pants when they made fun of Palin's kid, or called her a cunt.
So yes...We've had some fun at the expense of Ms. Fluke....all of it pretty mild...except Limbaugh who apologized. The reason she's a target of our humor is because of her testimony...of which little if any can be taken seriously, as we will continue to show. She does what liberals do....cry for another government hand out, and tailor her testimony to try to solicit sympathy. You idiots want to melt the issue of birth control with the issue of Georgetown paying for it...but that was not us who initiated that discussion...that was Ms. Fluke.
Ask yourself this question if you're at all inquisitive....Why would a well known reproductive and birth control rights advocate seek admission into a Jesuit run law school? There's Colombia, U of Chicago, Harvard, U of Virginia Law school, and dozens of other private institutions that she could have attended....but she chose a private catholic university. Does that strike you as odd? Do you have any intellectual curiosity at all?
Ms. Fluke is the object of our inspection, and in some cases scorn
because she chose to enter a national discussion with far from pure motives. Then in the days following the testimony did she return to her studies....hardly. This is what she lived for. She went on the talk show circuit, and promoted Media Matters...lmao. And don't you think it's just a little too cute that on the day entire towns in Indiana and Kentucky are blown off the face of the earth with no comment from the oval office..., Obama calls Ms. Fluke to console her? Are you really that dumb? If you want to make her your very own Joan of Ark.....be my guest. Ms Fluke and her classmates can ingest all the birth control she wants...it's not illegal, and never will be.It's readily available to anyone over 17. BUT.... Georgetown should not be MANDATED to pay for it if it's counter to thier religious beliefs. Check the first amendment, please. This isn''t about what you or Nancy Pelosi believe...this is about what Catholic Jesuits running Georgetown believe. . Are you able to discern the difference at all....or will we have to wait 3 years before the Supreme Court hears the case for those of us on the right to be vindicated ?

[giovanni_hotel]

THis debate doesn't advantage the GOP at all, which is why it's so perplexing they want to paint Obama as being 'at war' against religion. The POTUS already shifted the responsibility for birth control coverage away from religious affiliated institutions to HMOS, yet for some reason right wingers think there's mileage to be had in this debate.

The GOP can tell themselves this is about religious liberty and the overreach of Obamacare, but to the other half of the American electorate it sounds like conservatives don't want insurance coverage to include contraception.

Pick your side of this 'debate', the winning one isn't that the President has a beef against religious expression.

How far does this right to religious freedom extend??
And until Ms. Fluke drops out of Georgetown Law, there is no conspiracy. She's a student in good standing and made her opinion known.
Surprise, millions of women nationwide think exactly as she does, that a religious affiliated institution shouldn't be able to dictate the limits of her healthcare coverage.

Ms. Fluke chose G'town Law because it's a top flight law school, you really think this showdown over reproductive rights/religious freedom was orchestrated by Ms. Fluke and her 'handlers' well before she was admitted to GL???

Do you know what crazy talk sounds like???
Most the grad students at GL aren't Catholic I'd bet, and I wouldn't be surprised if half their undergrads at least aren't either.

Keep thinking that running on a platform of Gods, guns and gays is going to get the GOP back in the Oval Office.lol

[Stavros]

I had never heard of Ms Fluke before she was publicly insulted by Rush Limbaugh, so from this vantage point, it was Limbaugh who turned her into a national/international figure; and it was you who pilloried this individual on HungAngels for a simple reason - when you don't like the message, you attack the messenger. I believe Ms Fluke is a citizen of the USA, and your equal; a fact, not a fluke.

[onmyknees]

I had never heard of Ms Fluke before she was publicly insulted by Rush Limbaugh, so from this vantage point, it was Limbaugh who turned her into a national/international figure; and it was you who pilloried this individual on HungAngels for a simple reason - when you don't like the message, you attack the messenger. I believe Ms Fluke is a citizen of the USA, and your equal; a fact, not a fluke.


Sigh.....Here you are not even aware of what the discussion really is about...or with a full understanding about the religious objection issue...after all you're from the UK which is really why there's a Declaration of Independence , yet you feel compelled to comment. Ok...your uninformed opinion has been registered...please move on.
But....in an attempt to give you some insight to the issues at play, I'll indulge your ignorance on the matter...
It was stated clearly that referring to her as a slut was inappropriate, but that kind of language is not uncommon in political dialogue here in the States...ask Sarah Palin a private citizen, or Karen Tumalty a reporter. So let's not get all indignant about the language used, or you'll provide me with yet another opportunity to call you a hypocrite.
Sometimes the message and the messenger are one in the same. Ms. Fluke inserted herself into the spotlight, and as I've pointed out....has waited a long time to do so. That in and of itself doesn't make her a bad person, but it does mean she has an agenda. Then she provided wildly false testimony regarding the price and availability of birth control, completely ignoring the reality of title 10, then goes on the liberal talk show circuit ( 8 shows in 3 days) bashing conservatives and touting Media Matters. She has made herself part of the discussion and therefore is fair game for criticism. Do you think for one split second, if she was a conservative woman, she wouldn't find her way onto comedy central as a point of ridicule ? Join us in the real world sometime...ok?

The message and the messenger are one in the same. Get it? Were you aware that the liberals attempted to get her to testify beofre the full committe, but that was rejected because she had no standing ? So they created thier own charade.
If you weren't aware Limbaugh said some inappropriate things about her, then you surely won't be aware of what I'm going to tell you....during the 2008 campaign, Obama was on one of those tightly controlled town gatherings where he met with the plain folk. A guy stepped out of the crowd...a private citizen...and asked then candidate Obama a question. He was an out of work plumber...and average Joe. He wanted to know why Obama's tax policies were "spreading the wealth around".....a phrase Obama himself used.
Instantaneously the liberal cable networks sprang into action running the encounter on a 24/7 loop. I recall Olbermann, Maddow and Schultz the 3 stooges in particular hurled wild accusations at the plumber. How dare he ask the chosen one a question. He was called a buffoon, laughed at, ridiculed...they looked into his past, his business, his trash....and as hard as I've tried, I can't recall your outrage of that incident.....but that's right...I forgot you may not have been aware. But I'm sure if you had....you would have leaped to Joe's defense against the unfair attacks of the media. Wouldn't you have????????? LMAO. Sure you would have...you'd have piled on just like the rest of them. Get the facts before spouting off. And please don't take it personal...this is business, just as it is with Ms. Fluke...lol

[onmyknees]

Hey Stavros....a Little update to the subject at hand for your information.....seems like long standing liberal misogyny and disrespect is finally getting called out......and for the record, all these boycotts and political correctness make me uneasy, but until people can self disipline themselves and respect conservative women, all's fair in love and politics. You make you own bed in this world.

Controversial Comic Backs Out of Media Correspondents‘ Dinner Following Van Susteren’s Call for Boycott Over Sexist Remarks Following Greta van Susteren’s call for a boycott of the annual Radio & TV Correspondents’ Dinner for inviting comedian Louis C.K. — who Van Susteren dubbed a “pig,” and who has been known to call Sarah Palin a c–t — C.K. has reportedly backed out of the dinner (http://www.mediaite.com/online/louis-c-k-pulls-out-of-radio-tv-correspondents-dinner-hosting-duties/), saying he “just didn’t want to do it anymore.” His tweet about the subject follows:
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Louis-CK-Tweet-270x151.jpg (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/controversial-comic-backs-out-of-media-correspondents-dinner-following-van-susterens-call-for-boycott-over-sexist-remarks/louis-ck-tweet/)It is unknown whether Van Susteren’s blistering blog post on the subject, headlined “I refuse to go to the Radio and Television correspondents’ dinner — no one should go,” was the cause of the cancellation. You can read several passages of it below: (http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/03/08/i-refuse-to-go-to-the-radio-and-television-correspondents-association-dinner/)

The headliner of this year’s Radio and Television Correspondents Dinner is “comedian” Louis C.K. Comedian? I don’t think so. Pig? yes.
He uses filthy language about women…..yes, the C word…and yes, even to describe a woman candidate for Vice President of the United States. It isn’t just Governor Palin he denigrates. He denigrates all women and looks to the crowd to laugh.
I refuse to show any support for this guy or for the Radio and Television Correspondents Association Dinner Committee who hired him. I think the organization that hired him is just as bad as he is. It is no secret that he denigrates women.
FreeRepublic’s Kristin Taylor thinks (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/03/louis-ck-pulls-out-of-rtca-dinner-116996.html) this Van Susteren post was probably involved:

Taylor calls this afternoon with a different interpretation: ”That’s a cop-out,” he said. “But it’s a polite, professional way of withdrawing.”
Taylor also said C.K. should never have been invited in the first place, and attributed the invitation to the liberal bias of the Washington media.
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“It’s because he said those things about Sarah Palin that the D.C. media thought it was OK,” he argued. “If he had said those things about Michelle Obama, no way in hell he would’ve been invited.”
However, some say Van Susteren’s attack was unwarranted. Over at Laughspin, Dylan P. Gadino accuses Van Susteren of not doing enough research on the topic before attacking the comedian:

There sure is more, Greta. And maybe you should’ve actually listened to “more” – that is, if you listened to anything at all — before demonizing a man for a few crass comments he made on a radio show. That’s right, folks. These aren’t even lines from his act. It’s all from an appearance on SiriusXM’s Opie and Anthony Show from December of 2010; it came a few days after his [URL="http://www.buzzfeed.com/rebeccae/louis-ck-drunk-tweets-from-a-plane"]now-infamous drunken airplane tweeting (http://ad.doubleclick.net/click;h=v8/3c35/0/0/%2a/t;254680485;1-0;1;58127817;4307-300/250;47114103/47130281/1;u=prntype*web!prngenre*conservative_talk!prnpage *interior!pos*bottom!sz*300x250;~sscs=%3fhttps://lamplighter.infusionsoft.com/go/blban/bl/ban2), when he typed a series of gibberish and incredibly silly (and surely blue) jokes about Sarah Palin. And by the way, he later told GQ he regretted typing those things.

[buttslinger]

It's pronounced FLUKE, not FLUKE.
This may seem like a winning topic for Rush and Fox, (why I don't know) but it's not for the GOP. Obama is going to ask the country over and over and over why 15% Capital Gains Tax is essential for the nation's recovery. He's going to drone on and on about it like you drone on and on about Sandra Fluke. Knees, if you want a BS story to sell, get to work on why no Real Estate Taxes = Real America. And why 0% capital gains tax is vital for the American Recovery. That's what the REAL Republicans care about. God Guts and Guns is a bumper sticker.

[Faldur]

Obama is going to ask the country over and over and over why 15% Capital Gains Tax is essential for the nation's recovery. He's going to drone on and on about it like you drone on and on about Sandra Fluke.

Boy I hope your right..

[Stavros]

Sigh.....Here you are not even aware of what the discussion really is about...or with a full understanding about the religious objection issue...

You have distorted the discussion which began as an example of the way the leader of the Republicans in the USA feels free to insult women on his radio programme -that was the story that sparked an international reaction, even in this strange, antiquated country where Parliament passed a Bill of Rights in 1689 which my rusty maths suggests is 100 years before Mr Madison introduced them in your equally strange, if not antiquated country, give or take a few months. If the media has elevated Ms Fluke from being just another student on campus to a student with a grievance, that's their agenda.

You could have started a thread on the policy issues surrounding birth control, family planning on the campuses of universtities, and so on, but instead you created a thread devoted to attacking her -as in, attacking the messenger rather than the message. Ego requiem meam.

[BluegrassCat]

Sigh.....
Ms. Fluke inserted herself into the spotlight, and as I've pointed out....has waited a long time to do so. That in and of itself doesn't make her a bad person, but it does mean she has an agenda. Then she provided wildly false testimony regarding the price and availability of birth control, completely ignoring the reality of title 10, then goes on the liberal talk show circuit ( 8 shows in 3 days) bashing conservatives and touting Media Matters. She has made herself part of the discussion and therefore is fair game for criticism.

....during the 2008 campaign, Obama was on one of those tightly controlled town gatherings where he met with the plain folk. A guy stepped out of the crowd...a private citizen...and asked then candidate Obama a question. He was an out of work plumber...and average Joe. He wanted to know why Obama's tax policies were "spreading the wealth around".....a phrase Obama himself used.
Instantaneously the liberal cable networks sprang into action running the encounter on a 24/7 loop. I recall Olbermann, Maddow and Schultz the 3 stooges in particular hurled wild accusations at the plumber. How dare he ask the chosen one a question. He was called a buffoon, laughed at, ridiculed...they looked into his past, his business, his trash....and as hard as I've tried, I can't recall your outrage of that incident.....but that's right...I forgot you may not have been aware. But I'm sure if you had....you would have leaped to Joe's defense against the unfair attacks of the media.

Sigh...it's really sad to see someone with such a warped view of even very recent history. In this case the schools aren't to blame, we can lay it all on Fox News and the right-wing noise machine. This poor babbling fellow is so confused he doesn't know whether he's coming or going.

First of all you lying nitwit, it was John McCain and Fox News that made "Joe the Plumber" a public citizen. McCain brought up Wurzelbacher at the nationally televised debate with Obama and mentioned him more than 20 times! He was basically McCain's running mate at this point. It wasn't the question with Obama that put him on the radar of the national media, it was McCain and Neil Cavuto.

Oh yeah and why was it again that Ms Fluke "did 8 shows in 3 days"? It certainly wasn't because of her testimony. Her fame is due entirely to Rush's grotesque attacks that you're here passionately defending. She is still not the story despite your attempts to make it about her. It's about Rush and the larger conservative misogyny that you lap up and spew back so faithfully.

Your pathetic attempts to rewrite history continue to show you for the fraud that you are. If you can't debate without lying, it says a lot for the quality of your position.

[BluegrassCat]

The message and the messenger are one in the same. Get it?


This may be one of the most radical and yet revealing statements you've ever uttered on here.

It's radical because of its basic nihilism about the value of facts and the truth. You claim there are no facts in an issue only different sides. This is so breathtakingly cynical, I feel sorry for you. But of course this leads to all sorts of absurdities (like the ones we count on you to provide).

Reagan said that "everybody and every corporation [should] pay their fair share." And since message = messenger I guess Reagan was a socialist and if you liked him you are too.

If Hitler were found to have encouraged the eating of vegetables, are all vegetables now accomplices in genocide and to be avoided?

Your quote is revealing because you are always employing the weakest and dirtiest of debate tricks: attacking the messenger, guilt by association and character assassination. Never a word towards the actual issue, just amoral unthinking, attack politics. And of course this is due to your word-for-word snowballing of the Fox News talking point jizzbombs that Hannity & O'Reilly spurt your way. Stay on your knees and take your facial like the good little soldier you are. Just don't track that shit all over these boards. This is a tranny forum, we like to keep it respectable.

[onmyknees]

If it's Tuesday it must be another day for Ms. Fluke to appear on National TV. Today it was an editorial at CNN.com and an appearance on Soledad O'Brien. So how much longer will you dupes hold onto the myth that she was just a law student plucked from obscurity and thrust unwillingly into the spotlight ? Just an average citizen who wants to resume her normal life?
LMAO. Look...like it or not, she's put herself where she is, so don't give me that pabulum about attacking the messenger. This was a set up from the onset...including the call from Obama. So....as you rail on about Limbaugh and his attack on her, what if I brought up the name Chris Matthews? You progressives would tell me he's a respected news man and commentator....For Real? Well let's see what some women have to say about that .....It would appear that y'all have plenty of dirty laundry of your own and I'm the guy to call you on it. I howl at the irony of your indignation of how Ms. Fluke has been treated while you torched Ms. Palin...not on policy but her kids, her family, her bust size, her looks.... so your cries for fairness are hysterical.

And Slinger...I'd certainly prefer discussing tax policy, or the abject failure of the stimulus to move the needle on the unemployment rates, ( did you hear that BGC ?) but I didn't make Ms. Fluke the issue of the day...they did as a political tactic. And BTW Blue Gas better check the latest NYT and WaPo polls. The liberals "War on Women" is failing big time, Women are disapproving of Obama in larger numbers, and support the religious exemption by 20%. . Yours and Ms Flukes efforts and hysteria notwithstanding !

The intent is not to defend what Limbaugh, it is to point out that your recent found outrage, and defense of woman is completely fabricated. You've been laughing with Maher's and Letterman's misogynistic jokes about conservative women for years. You expect Ms. Fluke to be treated like a prom queen when you treated Palin and others with such vile disrespect ? Save the phoney fucking outrage BlueGas...or your contentions that one is in politics and one isn't. ....you're a blow hard hypocrite of the highest order. Fuck Off.

Now onto Mr. Matthews...




You've Got To Be Kidding (http://www.thejanedough.com/category/youve-got-to-be-kidding/)

Thanks, Chris Matthews, But We Can Do Better Than Having You As Our Defender

1:27 pm, March 12th | by Amy Tennery (http://www.thejanedough.com/author/amy-tennery/)

http://static03.mediaite.com/thejanedough/uploads/2012/02/chris-matthews-300x232.jpg (http://www.thejanedough.com/chris-matthews-weird-for-man-to-cook/chris-matthews/)On his show yesterday, Chris Matthews slammed the GOP for its handling of the recent contraception debate, calling the controversy “one of the time warps” (http://www.thejanedough.com/chris-matthews-republicans-women-voters/) in which “Republicans ignore the simple fact that women vote and are the majority of voters.”
This would be an encouraging argument — if it weren’t motivated by a political agenda.
During his segment, Matthews referred to Hillary Clinton’s near-clinch of the Democratic nomination and Sarah Palin’s inclusion on the GOP ticket in the last presidential election as “two iconic developments” for women in history, before wondering out loud how “odd” it is that women’s place in politics has backslid so far. And yet, during the 2008 election (and beyond), Matthews’ attitude toward both Clinton and Palin was anything but enlightened.
The fact is, Matthews has rarely practiced what he preached in his anti-GOP rant yesterday.
Let’s go back to January 9, 2008, when he commented on Hillary Clinton’s New Hampshire primary win. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22551718/ns/politics-decision_08/t/stunner-nh-clinton-defeats-obama/):

“I think the Hillary appeal has always been somewhat about her mix of toughness and sympathy for her. Let’s not forget — and I’ll be brutal — the reason she’s a U.S. senator, the reason she’s a candidate for president, the reason she may be a frontrunner, is her husband messed around. That’s how she got to be senator for New York. We keep forgetting it. She didn’t win there on her merits — she won because everybody felt ‘my God this woman stood up under humiliation.’ Right? That’s what happened.”
And here’s the video:

Then there was the time he said she was “just a soap opera.” (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/18/chris-matthews-overheard_n_144545.html) And, in case you were looking for more, Media Matters (http://mediamatters.org/research/200801110002) has a whole list of insults Matthews has hurled Clinton’s way: “She devil,” “strip-teaser,” “Nurse Ratched,” “Madame Defarge” — oh, and he called the men who support her “castrates in the eunuch chorus.”
Our hero!
And, just in case you thought I was leaving her out, let’s revisit the treatment that Matthews gave Palin.
After Senator McCain picked Palin as his running mate, Matthews likened her to a “mail-order bride” (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/31/matthews-palin-like-a-mail-order-bride/). He referred to a planned segment she had with Sean Hannity as “sort of like an infomercial… [like] selling makeup foundation.” (http://rightwingnews.com/uncategorized/the-sexism-of-chris-matthews-uneducated-palin-interviews-like-shes-selling-makeup-foundations/)
So, as we’ve established, Matthews’ history of derogatory and degrading remarks toward women is lengthy. And, no, it’s not limited to Palin and Clinton. There was the time that Matthews waxed poetic on Erin Burnett’s “knockout” (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/01/09/433806/-Chris-Matthews-Greatest-Sexist-Hits) looks live on the air. He referred to Michele Bachmann as “balloon head” and “this woman” (http://www.thenewagenda.net/2011/01/27/why-does-msnbc-tolerate-chris-matthews-misogyny/) on several occasions during a single broadcast. He suggested that Anthony Weiner’s wife might have been partly “responsible” (http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/06/06/did-nbcs-matthews-really-blame-weiners-wife-sexting-scandal) for the former Congressman’s sexting scandal. And, if you’re wondering how he treats his female on-air guests, you should check out this piece from The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/09/has-chris-matthews-lost-his-mind/). Let it never be said that Chris Matthews isn’t an equal-opportunity sexist.
It’s true that many women’s advocates (ourselves included (http://www.thejanedough.com/are-you-a-slut-flowchart/)) face critics who say we don’t take left-leaning pundits to task. Whether that’s true is another debate for another day. But Matthews’ self-appointed status as defender of women is outrageous — and transparently political.
Yes, Rush Limbaugh’s comments (http://www.thejanedough.com/limbaugh-advertisers/) about Sandra Fluke have galvanized a righteous backlash. And the GOP rhetoric on women’s right to contraception (http://www.thejanedough.com/abortion-contraception-roundup/) has been, on many occasions, horrifying (http://www.mediaite.com/online/foster-friess-aspirin-as-birth-control-joke-retroactively-blamed-for-teen-pregnancy/). But Matthews’ choice to lead the charge here smacks of insincerity — and hypocrisy.
And I’d imagine he’d have a hard time disagreeing with me. We know how tough he finds to “debate a woman.” (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/27/chris-matthews-is-so-evol_n_66110.html)

[Stavros]

You would help your cause a lot more if, for once, you actually did debate the message instead of this relentless focus on a young woman with concerns: if it is about the availability of family planning, contraceptives, advice on sexual issues on university campuses, then debate it. I think you mentioned it once, when remarking on the ethos of Georgetown and the expectations of students who go there, but on balance your desperate need to pillory the Democrats outweighs your interest in the issues.

[buttslinger]

Sean Hannity makes over twenty million a year and Megyn Kelly makes 250K? Fox News PIGS!!!!!

[buttslinger]

Instead of an aspirin between their knees, women should put a picture of Rush on their lap. NOBODY could fuck after that.

[Faldur]

Instead of an aspirin between their knees, women should put a picture of Rush on their lap. NOBODY could fuck after that.

You'd be surprised what $300 million can buy..

[BluegrassCat]

If it's Tuesday it must be another day for Ms. Fluke to appear on National TV. Today it was an editorial at CNN.com and an appearance on Soledad O'Brien. So how much longer will you dupes hold onto the myth that she was just a law student plucked from obscurity and thrust unwillingly into the spotlight ? Just an average citizen who wants to resume her normal life?
LMAO. Look...like it or not, she's put herself where she is, so don't give me that pabulum about attacking the messenger. This was a set up from the onset...including the call from Obama. So....as you rail on about Limbaugh and his attack on her, what if I brought up the name Chris Matthews? You progressives would tell me he's a respected news man and commentator....For Real? Well let's see what some women have to say about that .....It would appear that y'all have plenty of dirty laundry of your own and I'm the guy to call you on it. I howl at the irony of your indignation of how Ms. Fluke has been treated while you torched Ms. Palin...not on policy but her kids, her family, her bust size, her looks.... so your cries for fairness are hysterical.

And Slinger...I'd certainly prefer discussing tax policy, or the abject failure of the stimulus to move the needle on the unemployment rates, ( did you hear that BGC ?) but I didn't make Ms. Fluke the issue of the day...they did as a political tactic. And BTW Blue Gas better check the latest NYT and WaPo polls. The liberals "War on Women" is failing big time, Women are disapproving of Obama in larger numbers, and support the religious exemption by 20%. . Yours and Ms Flukes efforts and hysteria notwithstanding !




Holy fucking shit! I mean, we all know you're a liar, but this is over the top obviously wrong, even for you!

Women are flocking to Obama. The Komen-Santorum-Limbaugh cluster-bomb attack on women is driving them away from your sadistic little party. Obama is CRUSHING Romney by 20 points among women.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ballot-2012/2012/03/30/obama-trouncing-gop-candidates-among-female-voters
Your party better pull a 180 and quick, cause right now, the GOP is fucked (like it thinks women should never be, except during marriage)!

Your bullshit sidestepping only shows how guilty you are.

Never forget: Limbaugh made Sandra Fluke famous. Ask Limbaugh's former sponsors who Ms. Fluke is. Care to wager about how many sponsors have abandoned him now? Oh that's right, you make claims and then scurry away like a cockroach when the light switches on. Well the light is on and America is seeing your party in all its hateful glory.

Do you not get how sad and ugly it is that grown men are reporting on Ms. Fluke's spring break in an attempt to further slime her to excuse the virulent, sexist and thoughtless rhetoric of your obese master?

I wonder, could you, if you really worked hard, make a post in which you didn't lie to advance the GOP?

[onmyknees]

Holy fucking shit! I mean, we all know you're a liar, but this is over the top obviously wrong, even for you!

Women are flocking to Obama. The Komen-Santorum-Limbaugh cluster-bomb attack on women is driving them away from your sadistic little party. Obama is CRUSHING Romney by 20 points among women.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ballot-2012/2012/03/30/obama-trouncing-gop-candidates-among-female-voters
Your party better pull a 180 and quick, cause right now, the GOP is fucked (like it thinks women should never be, except during marriage)!

Your bullshit sidestepping only shows how guilty you are.

Never forget: Limbaugh made Sandra Fluke famous. Ask Limbaugh's former sponsors who Ms. Fluke is. Care to wager about how many sponsors have abandoned him now? Oh that's right, you make claims and then scurry away like a cockroach when the light switches on. Well the light is on and America is seeing your party in all its hateful glory.

Do you not get how sad and ugly it is that grown men are reporting on Ms. Fluke's spring break in an attempt to further slime her to excuse the virulent, sexist and thoughtless rhetoric of your obese master?

I wonder, could you, if you really worked hard, make a post in which you didn't lie to advance the GOP?


You're a little late to the party there ........we're well past Ms. Fluke ( who appears not to be satisfied her 15 minutes is up, and now is talking about a political career...was there ever a doubt? To you there was ! rotflmao) we're onto Obamacare faltering in the high court. Maybe you're still counting sponsors who left Limbaugh? What a fool.....good thing you didn't take that bet huh??

Here's one final look at the latest heroine of the left before she exits stage left. Ok...so it's a little harsh, but just consider me the HA version of Bill Maher....you all don't seem to have a problem with his vicious misogyny...and neither does Barry. Hey...it's only humor.........remember? LMAO


And when will I stop advancing the GOP agenda...was that the question ? Well first of all, I'm not a Republican....they're just one notch about Pelosi and Reid on the food chain, but I suppose I'll stop being so antagonistic towards libs when you admit just once that Obama is the most divisive, ill equipped, inexperienced, dogmatic, ideological, dishonest, not so smooth operator we've had in the White House in many generations.....I'll wait for that day. It doesn't have to be a full admission.....just a sentence or two ! When you reach that level of intellectual honesty, maybe we'll have a dialogue. lol

[trish]

Okay, OMK is the most divisive, ill equipped, inexperienced, dogmatic, ideological, dishonest, not so smooth operator we've had ever posting on these boards.

[onmyknees]

Okay, OMK is the most divisive, ill equipped, inexperienced, dogmatic, ideological, dishonest, not so smooth operator we've had ever posting on these boards.

Thank you Trish. Coming from you I will wear that honor proudly. Is there a tie clip, or lapel pin that comes with that? What's the matter............lose your sense of humor when the subject matter is shares your ideology ?
I think back to all your Tea Bagger and Palin posts.....you're great at pitchin' not so much catchin'. lol

[BluegrassCat]

Maybe you're still counting sponsors who left Limbaugh? What a fool.....good thing you didn't take that bet huh??

I took that bet, you lost it and then refused to stand behind your word. No surprise there but pretty embarrassing for you.



And when will I stop advancing the GOP agenda...was that the question ?

Why are you asking? The question is written down, it isn't going anywhere, it's not like you didn't quite catch it. If you're confused about it (like you often appear to be) just read it again.

The question, as it plainly asks, is will you refrain from LYING to advance the GOP. I have no beef whatsoever with your attachment to your party and your desire to defend them. It's your rampant dishonesty that's so offensive.

So I challenge you: make some factual claims that support your position without lying. If you can do that we can have an actual debate.

[trish]

What's the matter............lose your sense of humor... What? You didn't think my jibe was funny? Lose your sense of humor, loser?