hey has anyone wiped their ass on the koran for fun

[russtafa]

does the koran make good toilet paper?

[trish]

So if you conservatives out there aren't the bigots and racists some claim you are, then why don't any of you oppose the things that spill out of russtafa's mouth?

[Silcc69]

Russ you should buy one then wipe ya ass with it, burn it, shoot it and then post it al lon youtube. That's only if you have the balls to do all of that.

[mrtrebus]

Why would I? Is it better suited than other holy books?

[Dino Velvet]

A girl I won't name here was making a big to-do about soiling a Bible. Several members here were applauding and encouraging her and her edginess. I mentioned The Bible has been shit on so many times it's become corny. If you have real courage do it to a Koran and film it. Nothing but crickets after that but shitting on The Bible was perfectly OK before.

[tsadriana]

What a imagination u have guys,and i tought im the bad one .lol

[russtafa]

A girl I won't name here was making a big to-do about soiling a Bible. Several members here were applauding and encouraging her and her edginess. I mentioned The Bible has been shit on so many times it's become corny. If you have real courage do it to a Koran and film it. Nothing but crickets after that but shitting on The Bible was perfectly OK before.
fuck yeah dino these liberal asswipes are fucking pussies!Do it to the bible, but scared shitless of doing it to the muslims.:Bowdown:

[martin48]

does the koran make good toilet paper?

Got your picture here ....

[trish]

Still, I see no explanation why the HA conservatives, who explicitly claim they are not bigots or racists, have yet to put themselves in oppositions to russtafa's many many bigoted remarks. Not just using the Koran as toilet paper, but urging violence against ragheads in just about every other post. All I see are a couple of weak claims of reverse bigotry and reverse racism. Like Christians are a real underclass in the U.S., or that anyone here has urged violence against them.

[onmyknees]

Still, I see no explanation why the HA conservatives, who explicitly claim they are not bigots or racists, have yet to put themselves in oppositions to russtafa's many many bigoted remarks. Not just using the Koran as toilet paper, but urging violence against ragheads in just about every other post. All I see are a couple of weak claims of reverse bigotry and reverse racism. Like Christians are a real underclass in the U.S., or that anyone here has urged violence against them.



I see....by virtue of the fact we don't vehemently disassociate ourselves with the remarks and opinions of someone we don't know, we must by extension agree with him. Fuck that noise. That's the game the US press plays all the time. Ask me what I think....and I'll tell ya. I speak for myself. And this coming from the folks who deal the race card faster than a Vegas dealer at a Black Jack table and who lecture us on civility while cheering those who continue to bash thier political opposition. Russ said it, let him defend it. I think he's capable. You liberals pull this gotcha shit all the time. I would not have put it in those terms, but what I would have asked is what goes on inside the head of someone who takes another human beings life because of the accidental discarding of a book ? It's the same pathology that encourages children to blow themselves up, or that encourages the stoning of US Congressmen taking a tour of the West Bank. And the dead folks are not just anyone...they're in country to provide those very same maniacs with some sort of social and political stability and at great risk to themselves, and great hardship for thier familes and thier nation.. Again...I would not have put it the way Russ did, but I'm not him, and he's not me.....What I would say is ..."WOULD THE PRESIDENT PLEASE PAGE SEAL TEAM SIX BEFORE THE WORLD IS AT WAR"

[Faldur]

Still, I see no explanation why the HA conservatives, who explicitly claim they are not bigots or racists, have yet to put themselves in oppositions to russtafa's many many bigoted remarks.

Oh give me a break, that question doesn't warrant response. Does the man seem all there to you?

[trish]

Oh give me a break, that question doesn't warrant response. Does the man seem all there to you?What question? I'm just sayin'. You guys aren't.

[russtafa]

put a plug in it if you like the ragheads so much go and live with them i would rather push the button them or better yet just put something in their water so they stop breeding

[russtafa]

mate i hate them i fought on the streets in the 80s and i know cowards the left are

[trish]

put a plug in it if you like the ragheads so much go and live with them i would rather push the button them or better yet just put something in their water so they stop breedingAny of you conservatives or teabaggers out there who explicitly make a big deal of not being bigots nor racist want to bravely make explicit their opposition this shit? It's simple. You don't have to dance around issue and claim there's no need. Of course there's no need. But why not just do it? Why not just say, this is racist, bigoted bullshit?

[russtafa]

:dead::dead::dead::dead::praying::praying::praying :
Any of you conservatives or teabaggers out there who explicitly make a big deal of not being bigots nor racist want to bravely make explicit their opposition this shit? It's simple. You don't have to dance around issue and claim there's no need. Of course there's no need. But why not just do it? Why not just say, this is racist, bigoted bullshit?Trish you are so funny

[russtafa]

oh drop dead you lot are all responsible for all the troubles we have with this muslim immigration because wont shut the gates and then you complain when the people of these countries hate the disease you have inflicted on us.if they weren't here i would not complain and they fail to integrate into the societies they are placed in,in fact they want us to change for them

[trish]

I think the aboriginals had the same complaint about you. You lot didn't exactly integrate into their society did you? Maybe you lot could convert to Islam. You lot don't strike me as bunch a steadfast Christians anyway.

[russtafa]

I think the aboriginals had the same complaint about you. You lot didn't exactly integrate into their society did you? Maybe you lot could convert to Islam. You lot don't strike me as bunch a steadfast Christians anyway.

fuck off trish we did them a favour you always use these fucking primitives when i mention muslims get fucking real and don't use these trendy lefty catch phases. we saved their asses because if it wasn't us fuck knows what would happen to them.muslims are a disease every where they are introduced so go argue with the asians,africans,europeans and i think they will call you fucking stark raving mad .take your blindfold off and look at what they are about you crazy woman.besides how fucking biased are you with your anti-christian views

[trish]

don't use these trendy lefty catch phasesHmmmm which trendy catch phrase did you object to exactly?
we saved their asses because if it wasn't us fuck knows what would happen to themReally, they lived on the continent without your help for 50000 years.
muslims are a diseaseCome on you conservatives and teabaggers out there. Here's your chance to prove you're not bigots. You don't have to approve of Islam. Fuck knows I don't. I think the world would be better off if all religions died away, and all holy books are ignored and lost deep in the stacks of university libraries.

But there's a difference between Muslims and Islam which russtafa ignores; just as there is a difference between Christians and Christianity. Both Christianity and Islam are diseases. In fact they are very much mutations of the same memetic virus. Muslims and Christians are victims of the disease.

But anyone who wants to sterilize Christians as you want to sterilize Muslims is simply a filthy bigot...as are you.

On the other hand, to think that Christians have been duped since birth into believing a superstitious creed simply parallels their own belief that Muslims have been duped from birth to believe in a superstitious creed...on this hand, both critics are correct.

Just watch. The conservatives will come out with their condemnations now.

[martin48]

"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites."

Thomas Jefferson





Hmmmm which trendy catch phrase did you object to exactly? Really, they lived on the continent without your help for 50000 years.Come on you conservatives and teabaggers out there. Here's your chance to prove you're not bigots. You don't have to approve of Islam. Fuck knows I don't. I think the world would be better off if all religions died away, and all holy books are ignored and lost deep in the stacks of university libraries.

But there's a difference between Muslims and Islam which russtafa ignores; just as there is a difference between Christians and Christianity. Both Christianity and Islam are diseases. In fact they are very much mutations of the same memetic virus. Muslims and Christians are victims of the disease.

But anyone who wants to sterilize Christians as you want to sterilize Muslims is simply a filthy bigot...as are you.

On the other hand, to think that Christians have been duped since birth into believing a superstitious creed simply parallels their own belief that Muslims have been duped from birth to believe in a superstitious creed...on this hand, both critics are correct.

Just watch. The conservatives will come out with their condemnations now.

[russtafa]

god Trish you and your pals are full of shit and you know it ,but please don't try and fool us we can see though your bullshit and that's all it is .as for the abos who ever got here first would have wiped them out no question about that

[trish]

we can see though your bullshit...Well then please elaborate. Just what particular argument do find transparent? And if you can see through it, then tell us what you see behind it. Are you saying there is no distinction between Christianity and Christians? Islam and Muslims? Are you saying I'm wrong and that we really should sterilize Muslims? Grant us a display of your intellect and tell us exactly what it is you see and what reasons underlie your extreme prejudice.

[trish]

Looks like you shifted your position on aboriginals. First you claim they couldn't survive on their own; that you saved them from the harsh environment of Australia.


we saved their asses because if it wasn't us fuck knows what would happen to them.Of course they have survived there for 50000 years until you lot arrived. Now instead of claiming you saved them you admit to all but wiping them out.


as for the abos who ever got here first would have wiped them out no question about that So which is it? Will you pick a position and stick to it, please?

[russtafa]

if it was not the English any other nation would have wiped this primitive people off the map

[russtafa]

hey Trish i why don't i take you out sometime i know you fancy me ,i will give yah a good pounding as many times as you want=promise

[russtafa]

Looks like you shifted your position on aboriginals. First you claim they couldn't survive on their own; that you saved them from the harsh environment of Australia.

Of course they have survived there for 50000 years until you lot arrived. Now instead of claiming you saved them you admit to all but wiping them out.

So which is it? Will you pick a position and stick to it, please?

i give you position me deep inside you pumping .i have a big cock and chicks like it and i will give it to you .you will be singing the Australian national anthem

[onmyknees]

Come on you conservatives and teabaggers out there. Here's your chance to prove you're not bigots.
Just watch. The conservatives will come out with their condemnations now.

The day I feel compelled to prove anything to you, or any other twisted progressive is the day I'll stop my car in the high speed lane and step out in front of an oncoming tractor trailer. I owe you nothing. You will not put me on the defensive about my thoughts, opinions and positions nor do I feel inclined to justify them to especially you, or anyone else for that matter. You have not earned that. You all have mastered the technique of feigning outrage and crying racism as a political tactic to the point we've become desensitized even in the face or real racism or bigotry. You reap what you sow. Don't look to me for help if the real racists come. Run that game somewhere else.

[trish]

No outrage here; that's your bag. Just don't ever claim you're not a bigot or a racist. You passed on the opportunity to demonstrate otherwise.

An afterthought, or two:

I owe you nothing. You will not put me on the defensive about my thoughts, opinions and positions nor do I feel inclined to justify them to especially you, or anyone else for that matter. You have not earned that.But you are on the defensive. That's clear from the desperation in your ludicrous attempt to extract yourself from a simple invitation, an invitation to simply say, "I morally oppose the sterilization of Muslims." The fact that you can't bring yourself to affirm that easy moral judgement (just because I invited you to do so) speaks volumes. Sorry to have put you on the spot, but you could have easily avoided taking the defensive position by just affirming Muslims shouldn't be sterilized. How hard is that?? Rather than allay doubts about your moral position on sterilization, you would rather not appear to be giving any concession, however small, to me. If you didn't disgust me so, I'd be flattered.

Time after time you have claimed you're not a bigot, that Fox viewers aren't bigots and tea baggers aren't rascist. Where I come from, people who make claims owe their readers a "proof" of the claim in the form of argument or evidence. You incurred the debt when you opened your mouth.

[russtafa]

baby what's wrong

[trish]

hey Trish i why don't i take you out sometime i know you fancy me ,i will give yah a good pounding as many times as you want=promise

Why would I do that when I already topped you and left your ass sore and gapping?

[muh_muh]

surely these 2 are trolling? i mean no one can actually be that stupid
not in a world id like to live in anyway

[russtafa]

Why would I do that when I already topped you and left your ass sore and gapping?

is that what you want me to do to you? well if you insist :smileysex:

[Ben]

So if you conservatives out there aren't the bigots and racists some claim you are, then why don't any of you oppose the things that spill out of russtafa's mouth?

The terms liberal and conservative (which came out of classical liberalism) have been so jumbled as to be rendered almost meaningless.
I mean, are, say, Dwight Eisenhower and Rick Santorum both conservative? Are both Abraham Lincoln and Newt Gingrich both conservative?
I mean, the position of the Republican Party, going back to the mid 19th century was that chattel slavery and wage slavery were and are the same. Does that position still hold for these so-called conservatives? And, too, the Republican Party were against industrialization. As they saw it as an attack on their fundamental culture. Does that position still hold?
This new breed of conservatism is merely: extreme nationalism. They're extremists.

[Ben]

Warren Buffett Crushes Republicans On Taxes - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TCirzo6hIM)

[onmyknees]

The terms liberal and conservative (which came out of classical liberalism) have been so jumbled as to be rendered almost meaningless.
I mean, are, say, Dwight Eisenhower and Rick Santorum both conservative? Are both Abraham Lincoln and Newt Gingrich both conservative?
I mean, the position of the Republican Party, going back to the mid 19th century was that chattel slavery and wage slavery were and are the same. Does that position still hold for these so-called conservatives? And, too, the Republican Party were against industrialization. As they saw it as an attack on their fundamental culture. Does that position still hold?
This new breed of conservatism is merely: extreme nationalism. They're extremists.



What a pile of bullshit Ben.....really. I know everybody likes to think of you as this nice guy who never has harsh word about anybody, but when you call folks extremists, that nice gay guy shit goes out the window. You expose yourself for what you really are.You know little about the history of the modern conservative movement. Your knowledge is limited to what you read on all your left wing web sites you frequent. Do you know any real conservatives? Was Reagan an extremist? Is Paul Ryan ? How about John Beohner? or Jack Kemp? Was William F. Buckley and extremist? Was Newt when he balanced the Budget as the Speaker? How about the 40% of Americans who identify themselves as conservative ? How is it that someone who's gay and rightfully sensitive to blatant stereotyping, engages in that himself? I'd like an explanation of why each is an extremist. You made the charge.....let's see if you got the balls to make it stick. And if you copy and paste some nonsense from Huff Po or Glen Greenwald....than you simply confirm to me you are someone of little independent thought.

If you had made the statement that certain people who identify themselves as conservatives you find have some extreme social views, that would have been palatable, with an explanation...but that's not what you did. If you had said both parties have moved closer to the wings....that might be an accurate observation, but that's not what you did. You like to delude yourself, and us into thinking you have some sort of libertarian streak in you. I've flushed that nonsense out on numerous occasions. No libertarian would call a conservative an extremist. You're a fraud.

Take a few minutes and educate yourself about Conservatives form a Conservative.


Allen West commemorates Black History Month by telling the truth about Republicans and Black history - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXJ-9QyJtEg&feature=player_embedded)

[flabbybody]

So if you conservatives out there aren't the bigots and racists some claim you are, then why don't any of you oppose the things that spill out of russtafa's mouth?
the purpose of tough guy internet hate mongering is to attract attention and elicit responses. when your 4 year old is throwing a tantrum, ignore them.

[trish]

Thanks flabbybody, for the sound advice. :)

[martin48]

Thanks flabbybody, for the sound advice. :)

Been telling you that for a while - bigots don't listen, aren't rational, etc.

[russtafa]

Thanks flabbybody, for the sound advice. :)

hey Trish we should hit the piss together and i can do the wild thing with yah you sexy wench:kiss::kiss::kiss::kiss::kiss::fuckin::fuckin ::fuckin::fuckin::fuckin:

[onmyknees]

If it's Thursday, it must be another day for the left's vile anti Christian bigotry. Hmmmm...while expecting, no demanding an apology from russtata, perhaps they missed this one.....but I doubt it. Huff Po is regualr reading for you all.

Footnote...the bigot was forced to make what he called "sort of an apology". So..... keep on demading apologies from "conservatives" while your own engage in this shit.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/11044-huffington-post-urged-to-apologize-for-anti-catholic-hate-screed

[trish]

And OMK is still unable to affirm that Muslims shouldn't be sterilized.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1100026&postcount=29

[russtafa]

And OMK is still unable to affirm that Muslims shouldn't be sterilized.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1100026&postcount=29if i get over there are we going to do the wild thing Trish i will even let your little friends watch a real pommie friends watch:smileysex:;)

[yodajazz]

does the koran make good toilet paper?


the purpose of tough guy internet hate mongering is to attract attention and elicit responses. when your 4 year old is throwing a tantrum, ignore them.

I probably am wasting my time, but books in general are better for understanding. In the case of the Koran, it is a high context book, meaning one needs to know the circumstances of the passages to achieve higher understanding. Lots of people have taken things out of context, for political gain. This includes both Muslims and the critcs of Islam. If 40% of the people in some Muslims areas are illiterate, as it said in the "911 Report", they must get thier interpretation, from someone besides themselves. In the case of English speakers, Arabic words, often have different meanings depending on the context.

But let's look at one example. Unfortunately, I must paraphrase due to my current situation. But basic someone quoted a passage, which said something like; "kill the infidels, fight the end, lie in wait and attack them, etc". The context, was that there had been a widespread spread rumor, that a major power nation, was amassing an army to attack them. The attack never materialized, according to my understanding. But one can easily argue that his exhortations were about that specific situation.

One addtional thing, the decision was made many centuries ago, to organize the Koran from the the shortest, to the longest Suras (chapters), instead of chonologically. The Prophet had distinct phases in his life, such as mystic, warrior general, and empire adminstrator. And in some case it is disputed when a particular Sura was actually written. In those cases scholars have make conclusions regarding the time/order, by the related content.

One can find, many positive things in the Koran, such as the importance of charity, if you look for them. And so called negative things can be framed by context, if you seek understanding, like it says in the Bible.

[BluegrassCat]

And OMK is still unable to affirm that Muslims shouldn't be sterilized.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1100026&postcount=29

In fact, he said he would sooner step into highway traffic than to oppose a religious holocaust. Nasty stuff from a nasty punter.

[russtafa]

In fact, he said he would sooner step into highway traffic than to oppose a religious holocaust. Nasty stuff from a nasty punter.but a straight shooter and not a pussy

[trish]

but a straight shooter and not a pussyOne bigoted loser endorses another.

[russtafa]

thanks Trish honey bunny xxxxx love yah you cutie

[Silcc69]

One bigoted loser endorses another.

Pretty much.

[Prospero]

Someone wrote that Russtafa's posts are like a four year old's rantings - trying to get attention. A good summation of his contribution to all and any debaes.

It is a shame that the moderators managed to delete a wonderful thread like Paulistano's of girls around the world and yet this malodorous and deeply offensive thread offering vile insults to the world's millions of moslem men and women remains. Russtafa is a racist of the worst sort - and threads like this should be deleted.