Whitney Houston death and Fox News...

[Silcc69]

When Fox News reported (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dies-at-48/#comment) on its website Sunday night that Whitney Houston had died, it unleashed a torrent of ugly racist comments from their readers. Charles Johnson managed to copy a whole bunch of them (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39912_Fox_News_Commenters_Respond_to_Whitney_Houst ons_Death_With_Deluge_of_Hatred_and_Racism) before Fox started deleting them, but there were so many that they finally just deleted the entire comment thread (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39915_Update-_Fox_News_Makes_Racist_Comment_Thread_Disappear) in order to get rid of them. Here are the ones that he saved first:


A tragedy is when someones passes away from a terminal disease or something else that no one saw coming.Whitney is just an inferior lo w life ni gg er that needed to go,no tragedy,no loss.
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Any death is a tragedy you heartless bástard.
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not nignogs their death is a plus
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SHe couldn’t even sell issues of “the national enquirer” anymore. Everyone was tired of the TNB. Niqqer flaps her lips and screeches, niqqer becomes rich. Niqqer ends up nearly broke after spending all of her money. Niqqer in constant fights and drug binges. Niqqer ODs when she learns she’s nearly broke and she is so wasted physically she can’t make another album. Niqqer hit the end of the road, niqqer thinking and niqqer behavior led her to where she had nothing. She couldn’t face life without the “bling bling”, she knew she would never have any more “kaching kaching”
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I am now patiently waiting for the grand messiah Obama to have a blk fundraiser in honor of Whitley with Kevin Costner as guest of honor with all the Hollywood elites invited along with Alan Colmes, Al Sharpton, Jeremia Wright, Charles Rangel, etc. with a menu featuring blk eyed peas, grits, Imported Kobe steak, Dom Perignon, sweet potato pie and a mus lll im scarf as a momento of this great occasion.
Of course the door prize will be an all expense paid trip to Kenya to visit the Obama tribe and birthplace of his ancestors while the American people still look for this imposter’s birth certificate in Hawaii !!!
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This is typical of the blk gene pool; it happens all the time. They cannot handle fame and fortune whether it’s derived from music, acting, sports or just plain entertainment. Too much fame and too much money at one time will ki ll ll you.
How many blk people have died from drugs including alcohol that have been in the sports and the entertainment industry or screwed up their married lives like Tiger Woods or worse, OJ Simpson !!!
This is the same disease that got Obama voted into the White House.
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i don’t even consider them to be included in the human race let alone on a pedistal. the people that do are a bunch of loosers.
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Story goes Obama sh0ved to much cr@ck up the wh0res @zz when he was going to sniiff it…
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Obvious the use of to much hair strengthener did her in.That s__t will peel paint!
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unfortunately like most nignog crack hoes she was able to apply her trade on “da streets”
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Another nignog off the public social rolls
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BIack females are the fattest segment of the population. BIack males are the most murderousss segment of the population. Africans have the lowest IQ of all people.
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Like most of her species, she suffered from chronic stupidity.
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tough break niqqer.
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Nothing wrong with Coors, what is good about it most_n i g g e r s_ don’t like it
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oh niqqa please,nigga please.
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one of the only b l a c k chics i would have ever banged…..once you go c r ack er…..you dont do cr a c k
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Woo Hoo One less obama voter
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Whitney who?!? some /\/iggress music artist that had a couple of hits in the early 90’s. She’s since been forgotten and now she’s dead.. Who cares..
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Africans love their drugs.
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Jungle Buggie ??
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This is a good lesson for all of you God loving Christian girls out there, stay away from “Jungle Love.”
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One less bIack crack addict in the world today. Not such a big loss.
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We Whiteys dont care about some monkey crackhead, change the headline!
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How funny would it be if they fuckedup the tombstone.
WHITEY HOUSTON
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Their are B L A C K S and their are N i G G A S, which class do you put her mentor Bobby Brown into??? Whitney chose ???
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Who cares? Black_trash gone is enough.
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She is just like any other gh e tto queen.I hope the rest of these worthless piles in the inner cities follow her act .
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What a waste of a good slit.
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HER REAL NAME SHOULD BE KUNTA KINTI OR MOGUBA MAGABA, WHY AFRO-AMERICANS ARE USING ENGLISH NAMES AND LAST NAMES?….SHAME ON THEM!!
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You know what you call Whitney Houston in a bathtub? A dead n i g g a h
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Another buckwheat supporter bites the dust, oh well.
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hatesandniqqers 3 hours ago
phuk you w hore,,,,,,,,,
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Buckwheat is ne gro trash!
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Bammy should not have given her crack from his personal stash!
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B l a c k s have little to brag about about so they strut and crow about anything. The politically correct whites whine and cringe and try to be b l a c k themselves and identify with their “brothers”. Great singer but as stupid as her pal, the malignancy in the white house
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she still be voting for the head niggg this nov
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To bad it wasnt the monkey in the White House
Fox did the right thing by deleting the thread, but this isn’t about them. It’s about the mentality of so many of their fans.

[muh_muh]

i suppose quite a lot of rustafas accounts on the fox website got banned recently

[Prospero]

Scratch the surface and all that nasty stuff seems to pour out - wherever you live. Racism seems common in every part of the world.

[lumberjack]

Silcc69, I'm sure you are aware that liberal sites like Huffington Post are just as vile when well known conservatives die? So you take someone's death and try to make a politcal issue out of it by tying it to Fox news, brilliant!

[Faldur]

Silcc, I also hope you don't believe everything you read in a comments thread.

[trish]

One can believe the comments are expressive of the hatreds and fears of those making the comments; i.e. consumers of FOX news..

[Faldur]

One can believe the comments are expressive of the hatreds and fears of those making the comments; i.e. consumers of FOX news..

Or one sick prank that was repeated over and over, there are no screen names in the screenshot. You ever heard of Howard Sterns whack pack? Stuff like this happened all the time.. "I see OJ.. and he b vewy upset"...

[trish]

Oh okay. I see what you're sayin'. No haters here. Nothing to see. Move along now.

[Prospero]

I cannot beleieve that the Fox enthusiasts here are virtually suggesting Silcc made this up. You guys may not think these thoughts, but there are thousands who do. And Murdoch's organisations are the more respectable end of the media that caters to them. Get real.

[onmyknees]

I'm shocked that you're shocked. According to you, most white folks are inherently racist anyway, so is the purpose of this post to just attempt to prove your point ? So this is evidence of your contentions. I mean who could or would defend this? It's anonymous, it's despicable it's the Internet, and it's untraceable. It's a perfect reason why you can't allow comments without a valid email address or some proof of identity. Normally you're trolling for content by Fox News itself that you can point to in an effort to validate all your cries of racism. Now it's anonymous visitors to the web site. . Whatever works. Obviously someone posted this bilge, but I'd be careful hanging my hat on a bunch of anonymous posters to a non restricted web site..

Not to change the subject on the sad events of Ms. Houston, but since you opened the door to that, I'll walk through it. Is it ever possible that there's black racism? If there is...is it less offensive? I mean I read the political boards pretty thoroughly and I never seem to read anything about that. Does it offend you when Maxine Waters calls John Beohner a "demon"? Did it offend you when Rev Wright made ugly racist comments about Hillary, and white folks ? Did you quickly run to HA and post your displeasure? Or is that just part of the political dialogue? Do you ever say...."hey Maxine...that's a tad over the top"....or do you ignore it ? Apparently you and the others must because I never hear you condemn it....but let some anonymous ass holes post some ugly shit and you're all over it. Ya see the way I see it....if you oppose racism, you have to oppose all forms of racism, not just the instances that offend you personally. If you want people to stand with you and deplore particular comments and dialogue, then you have to stand with them. It's not easy...I'll concede that, but if you're not prepared to point to bad behavior by people who you generally agree with, then don't look for the outrage when the pendulum swings the other way. It's about consistency.
This is an easy one to call.....it's deplorable, let's see what happens when Maxine goes on her next rant, or Roland Martin goes off on Twitter again.

[trish]

There you go again, assuming someone was shocked when in fact no one said anything about being shocked. I'll be shocked when OMK actually employs a rhetorical device that applies. We're not shocked because we knew all along what sort of losers consume the FOX news products. There's no shock here. Just curious to see what lame excuses will be given for this abundant offering of hatred.

[Yvonne183]

I think I remember some people saying in the "Climate" topic that there is solid evidence that global warming is true. That we must look at the evidence and the facts for our reasoning.

Ok, where are the facts in this story? Until someone finds out exactly who the people were that made those comments then we can't assume they were made by right or left wing people, or by Fox listeners or MSNBC listeners. Apparently some left wing people read the story on FOX cause they read and collected the comments that were posted on this forum, so are they considered FOX listeners.

Unless you have the proof of who exactly wrote those posts then you have nothing of substance.

And if you don't don't think left wing people would make these posts just to make FOX look bad, then I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya. Anyone could have made those posts, I'd like proof of who did it before I am satisfied.

[onmyknees]

I cannot beleieve that the Fox enthusiasts here are virtually suggesting Silcc made this up. You guys may not think these thoughts, but there are thousands who do. And Murdoch's organisations are the more respectable end of the media that caters to them. Get real.


Get real ? LMAO.....You may not know the back story of why some of these folks might look on this information with a somewhat jaded eye. That's not surprising...
Your swipe at Murdoch is ironic....(keep reading)

Media Matters says it is "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.” Its financial contributors include a who’s who of liberal foundations and philanthropists, including billionaire financier George Soros.

But the group has contemplated activities far more aggressive than simply monitoring, according to a September 2009 memo sent by a staffer to Media Matters founder David Brock and President Eric Burns.

“Simply put,” the staffer wrote, “the progressive movement is in need of an enemy. George W. Bush is gone. We really don’t have John McCain to kick around anymore. Filling the lack of leadership on the right, Fox News has emerged as the central enemy and antagonist of the Obama administration, our Congressional majorities and the progressive movement as a whole.

“We must take Fox News head-on in a well-funded, presidential-style campaign to discredit and embarrass the network, making it illegitimate in the eyes of news consumers.”




Read that last paragraph again for effect and focus on the "discredit and embarrass" part. That's thier words...not mine. We know they have harrassed staffers at Fox news, we know they hired private dicks to dig into the private lives of people who work at Fox, we know they engage in Westboro Baptist Church tactics....I'm not suggesting the comments on Fox's website are not from some flaming assholes, I simply can't be sure....and neither can you.....what I am suggesting is when you engage in the of type seedy, well funded, unethical, seek and destroy at all costs behavior Media Matters does.....it's not that far out of the realm of possibility. You're the one who needs to Get Real.

[trish]

Yvonne, the comments were made on the FOX web site. I think we can deduce they were left by visitors to that site. Moreover, by reading them we can see the comments are hateful. There's two points of substance already.

Okay so for excuses so far we've got
1) the other side does it too; and
2) classic skepticism.

Anything else?

[Stavros]

Hateful comments have become part of the landscape in a way that could never have happened before the age of the internet because anyone can now register for the portal to a newspaper, be it the paper or the comments agencies like Disqus (in the UK), and so do anonymously. The moderators eventually either edit or remove comments, and some will not allow web-links if they are not monitored or not at all. The two papers which to my eyes get the most comments are the 'left-leaning' The Guardian, and the pro-Conservative paper The Daily Telegraph. The most vitriolic abuse is in the Telegraph, where, anonymously, people make the most outrageous statements. If there is any interesting theme for sociologists (if not psychologists), in the UK it seems that for Telegraph readers, multi-culturalism and Europe are the two issues that generate the most abuse, in other words, the reliance on something called Little England. When I once suggested in a comment to one of the usual suspects that if we followed his advice we would scrap everything that has happened in the UK since the Romans invaded, his reply was an enthusiastic Yes, that's a good place to start.

Yvonne's point has a deadly accuracy -how much comment on Fox news, or in HA would there be if we were not allowed the safety of being anonymous?

[giovanni_hotel]

Whitney Houston is a well known lib?? LOL.
She was apolitical like most celebs. Just reflects who consumes Faux News.
You will NEVER see a stream of racist epithets when the death of a country music star is posted on the Huffington Post.

Shameful. Typical.

The GOP has been tilting more towards the fringes since the election of BHO, there's no way to get around that.

[Silcc69]

I think this image pretty much sums it up

http://sunsetentertainmentnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/simpsons-fox-news.jpg

[hippifried]

Klan/nazis are an infestation.
I don't think the network is deliberately racist. The audience they draw just readily lends itself to assholes. It happened to the teabaggers too. It happens to everybody really, if you don't stay focused. Regardless of the issue, or which side of the issue, once a group forms, the fanatics show up. They try to infiltrate, take control, & claim it as their own. Allowing it to happen is political suicide. The fanatics know this, but they do it anyway. You can't fix stupid. It's real hard to organize around an idea when the organization gets usurped by morons who think they can help by getting a derogatory label put on the organization. Maybe that's why so many organizations focus on a single personality. That keeps the organized sympathizers at bay, but it can be worse if the personality's flaws are too readily visible. I'm not sure which is worse for actually getting the idea across. I'll give props to FOX for doing what they had to do to stop it. Can't control the constituancy.

[thx1138]

Whitney's death by drug/alcohol abuse wasn't the first and won't be the last. As for the hateful comments: no surprise. Yahoo is full of them.

[Faldur]

Yvonne, the comments were made on the FOX web site. I think we can deduce they were left by visitors to that site. Moreover, by reading them we can see the comments are hateful. There's two points of substance already.

Okay so for excuses so far we've got
1) the other side does it too; and
2) classic skepticism.

Anything else?

Lol, just precious. Comments left by anonymous users on a public website are proof that Fox News watchers/listeners are racists.

No wonder you believe in global warming.

[Silcc69]

Lol, just precious. Comments left by anonymous users on a public website are proof that Fox News watchers/listeners are racists.

No wonder you believe in global warming.

Well I just looked for an article about Whitney on MSNBC and for some odd reason the comment's there seem to be much more "civil" so what exactly does that you?

http://entertainment.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/19/10449204-whitney-houston-laid-to-rest#comments

[trish]

Lol, just precious. Comments left by anonymous users on a public website are proof that Fox News watchers/listeners are racists.Read my posts asshole. I never said the comments were proof that consumers of Fox news products are racists. I said we already knew beforehand that they were losers and haters...and for that reason I wasn't surprised by the comments. Sheeesh, when will you learn to read???

[BluegrassCat]

Thankfully we don't have to read the tea leaves of comment sections to resolve this question. Researchers have been showing for years that conservatives are more racially hostile than non-conservatives. The University of Michigan's National Election Study found that conservatives are more likely than liberals or moderates to endorse negative stereotypes of blacks, such as that blacks are unintelligent, lazy and violent (stereotypes that, by the way, were once used to justify slavery and are now used to justify inequality). Conservatives were also more likely than liberals to blame an inborn lack of ability for blacks' inequality of outcomes with whites in America.

So who knows who posted those comments, and frankly, who cares. They're just more evidence of what we already know.

[onmyknees]

Yes...racist all. See it's as easy as that. By simply saying it, you can explain away generations of liberals keeping blacks in sub par schools, telling them they need affirmative action, and keeping them locked into a lifetime of dependency, all the while making sure they're registered to vote to keep the dependency charade going. Your war on poverty has been a war on the black family....Your incessant drive to provide abortion on demand and publicly fund it has resulted in tens of thousands of black babies being aborted each year....Your 30 years of "assistance" has given us a 73% fatherless child birth rate in the black community, and 40% of black men in prison. Your opposition to school vouchers and charter schools has kept underprivileged black kids in horrible public schools, all while you take the teachers union's cash to line your political reelection coffers. And you're quoting some obtuse university study as a way to explain all that away and put the blame on conservatives? Son...you don't have the fucking brains you were born with. You give new meaning to the old saying....."I'm from the government, and I'm here to help". White liberals like you pretending to be sympathetic to the plight of inner city blacks have had a far more disastrous affect with your version "compassion" than some rednecks holding onto some long ago dispelled stereotypes and chronicled by some university students.

[Faldur]

So who knows who posted those comments, and frankly, who cares. They're just more evidence of what we already know.

Completely agree with the who knows, and the who cares. But the "evidence" part your pushing. Just as easy for you to post there as me. It was a prank, and my money is on a couple fun loving leftists trying to get a rise.

You can't call this evidence, and expect us then to look at your science. Sorry its hypocritical, and one of the reasons so many question your "science". And Trish, your hatred abounds, when have I ever called you a derogatory name? Lighten up girl, lives too short.

[Silcc69]

You can't make this shit up

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/303682/20120223/stupid-republican-laws-attacks-girl-scouts-muppets.htm

[BluegrassCat]

Yes...racist all. See it's as easy as that. By simply saying it, you can explain away generations of liberals keeping blacks in sub par schools, telling them they need affirmative action, and keeping them locked into a lifetime of dependency, all the while making sure they're registered to vote to keep the dependency charade going. Your war on poverty has been a war on the black family....Your incessant drive to provide abortion on demand and publicly fund it has resulted in tens of thousands of black babies being aborted each year....Your 30 years of "assistance" has given us a 73% fatherless child birth rate in the black community, and 40% of black men in prison. Your opposition to school vouchers and charter schools has kept underprivileged black kids in horrible public schools, all while you take the teachers union's cash to line your political reelection coffers. And you're quoting some obtuse university study as a way to explain all that away and put the blame on conservatives? Son...you don't have the fucking brains you were born with. You give new meaning to the old saying....."I'm from the government, and I'm here to help". White liberals like you pretending to be sympathetic to the plight of inner city blacks have had a far more disastrous affect with your version "compassion" than some rednecks holding onto some long ago dispelled stereotypes and chronicled by some university students.

Nice try to redirect and change the subject as usual, and as usual just as wrong. I made no claims of the sort. I made no claims at all, just pointed out the repeated findings of years of research. Conservatives, on average, are more racially hostile to blacks than non-conservatives. That result has no bearing on the effectiveness of government policies. And as with all such findings, not every conservative is racist and not every liberal isn't. But in the aggregate across thousands of people there are systematic differences in that conservatives endorse hateful and harmful stereotypes of blacks at higher rates than non-conservatives.

[BluegrassCat]

some rednecks holding onto some long ago dispelled stereotypes and chronicled by some university students.

"some university students" hahahaha! Wow, you really have no idea what you're talking about. Keep it up, shitbird.

[onmyknees]

Nice try to redirect and change the subject as usual, and as usual just as wrong. I made no claims of the sort. I made no claims at all, just pointed out the repeated findings of years of research. Conservatives, on average, are more racially hostile to blacks than non-conservatives. That result has no bearing on the effectiveness of government policies. And as with all such findings, not every conservative is racist and not every liberal isn't. But in the aggregate across thousands of people there are systematic differences in that conservatives endorse hateful and harmful stereotypes of blacks at higher rates than non-conservatives.

Right.......Parrot some unknown survey about sterotypes and bigotry, then deny your hands are dirty. You're just the delivery boy...right? Not only is your ideology failed, you're a weasel. What would a patronizing white liberal like you know about racism anyway? You read about it in a college survey? LMAO

Look...you fuckers ran this racism game during the 2010 election, and got your asses handed to you, so by all means.....keep beatin' that drum. I actually am humored by guys like and so is anyone else with a brain.

[BluegrassCat]

Right.......Parrot some unknown survey about sterotypes and bigotry, then deny your hands are dirty. You're just the delivery boy...right? Not only is your ideology failed, you're a weasel. What would a patronizing white liberal like you know about racism anyway? You read about it in a college survey? LMAO

Look...you fuckers ran this racism game during the 2010 election, and got your asses handed to you, so by all means.....keep beatin' that drum. I actually am humored by guys like and so is anyone else with a brain.


Aww, can't make up your mind about how to refute the latest nail in your ideology's coffin? Last time it was that there were some conservative racist rednecks, but they didn't matter, now it's that they never existed after all. Which is it, fool? I'll save you the trouble of embarrassing yourself again, this finding isn't from one survey by "some college students" (lol!) it's from every survey that's studied it carried out by professional organizations, academic and not over the past 30 years.
You have a nasty habit of denying reality and attacking the messenger and sadly, there you go again. It's really starting to look bad for you and your ilk. America's not falling for your politics of hate and dishonesty anymore. They want answers not character assassination. I can't wait for November.:party::party:

[onmyknees]

Aww, can't make up your mind about how to refute the latest nail in your ideology's coffin? Last time it was that there were some conservative racist rednecks, but they didn't matter, now it's that they never existed after all. Which is it, fool? I'll save you the trouble of embarrassing yourself again, this finding isn't from one survey by "some college students" (lol!) it's from every survey that's studied it carried out by professional organizations, academic and not over the past 30 years.
You have a nasty habit of denying reality and attacking the messenger and sadly, there you go again. It's really starting to look bad for you and your ilk. America's not falling for your politics of hate and dishonesty anymore. They want answers not character assassination. I can't wait for November.:party::party:

Let me get this straight milk toast....You refuse to accept the findings of NY Times columnist and Pulitzer Prize winner Gretchen Morgenstern on a critically acclaimed and footnoted book on the financial collapse, yet you expect us to take your word on some survey you reference from Michigan State because you say it's so? Did you post the survey? Did you post any pier reviews of that survey. Did you post the methodology used...the questions asked? The number of people surveyed? But I'm supposed to take that survey as some sort of proof that conservatives are bigots....again because you say it's so. Let me break it softly to you because you have an inclination to get hysterical....you don't have that kind of credibility here. In fact...you have no creditability. Maybe in your little groups of friends you carry that kind of clout, but here you're just another vapid liberal who's answer to every question is "racist over here....racist over there...racists everywhere".

And what makes you think your continued dives into race baiting as an answer to everything from the debt to gas prices will work any better in November than they did in 2010? You lost the House and nearly the Senate, but that gets back to your creditibility thing again....

I don't mind mixing it up on here...there's some pretty astute folks, you just don't happen to be one of them.

[BluegrassCat]

In fact...you have no creditability.


I have no idea what that is and I'm glad not to have it. If you were mashing the keyboard in the hopes of lecturing this board on credibility, that is beyond hilarious. Everyone knows you're a dishonest and tendentious hack.

And you're really digging deep on changing the subject (again!) by bringing up Morgensen's book, lol. Unlike you I actually read Morgensen's book and noticed, as others did, a major flaw in how she and her coauthor measured "subprime." That's a discussion I've already posted on elsewhere but the point is I engage the substance of the argument rather than just attacking the messenger as you are compelled to do.

This whole board has seen you time and again engage in the slimy Rovian tactics of misdirection and character assassination rather than deal with whatever arguments are being put forward. And the sad reason is because you have no counter-arguments, just counter-attacks. The hilarious part about your attempts to discredit the gold standard of political surveys that I cited is that you have no talking points on how to attack the University of Michigan. Without instructions from Limbaugh or O'Reilly you just tried to puzzle out an attack on your own.

"Hmm let's see...University of Michigan...what's do I know about universities? I know they have college students...yea...that's the ticket. All research done at universities is by college kids, they teach the classes, run the hospitals, it's all just kids and what do they know."

A truly hilarious fail, and I thank you for the amusement. If you're curious about the methodology you could look it up using Google. If that's too difficult for you you can find plenty of information here: electionstudies.org

I'm sorry you don't like facts, in this case they reflect poorly on your ideology so I can see why you're squirming. But again I never said conservatives are racist, I said they are more racially hostile than liberals. You can define a racist anyway you like (to make sure it never includes you). The research only provides evidence about relative levels of racial hostility and conservatives consistently score higher than non-conservatives.

[onmyknees]

You're always hysterical about some perceived injustice or bigotry by conservatives. How about you clean your own yard before you dump your trash in mine ? Last week we had Lefty Roland Martin CNN personality being suspended for anti gay comments and his homophobia. Any comment form you? ( Crickets) And today the ever race baiting Charles Blow (NYT) had to issue an apology for his vile anti religious comments directed at Mitt Romney. Unfortunately Romney's mistake was he's not a Muslim, then he gets a pass from the left. I guess the means justify the ends....huh? Do as we say...not as we do. When you pull your head out of your ass, I suspect you'll tell us how you feel about all this bigotry coming from your side.

[Silcc69]

You're always hysterical about some perceived injustice or bigotry by conservatives. How about you clean your own yard before you dump your trash in mine ? Last week we had Lefty Roland Martin CNN personality being suspended for anti gay comments and his homophobia. Any comment form you? ( Crickets) And today the ever race baiting Charles Blow (NYT) had to issue an apology for his vile anti religious comments directed at Mitt Romney. Unfortunately Romney's mistake was he's not a Muslim, then he gets a pass from the left. I guess the means justify the ends....huh? Do as we say...not as we do. When you pull your head out of your ass, I suspect you'll tell us how you feel about all this bigotry coming from your side.

LOL Martin's comments were hardly anti gay. As for Romney given the fact that there are conservatives that have openly said that they wouldn't support him because he is a mormon maybe you should check your own crowd before you venture into something else.

[BluegrassCat]

You're always hysterical about some perceived injustice or bigotry by conservatives. How about you clean your own yard before you dump your trash in mine ? Last week we had Lefty Roland Martin CNN personality being suspended for anti gay comments and his homophobia. Any comment form you? ( Crickets) And today the ever race baiting Charles Blow (NYT) had to issue an apology for his vile anti religious comments directed at Mitt Romney. Unfortunately Romney's mistake was he's not a Muslim, then he gets a pass from the left. I guess the means justify the ends....huh? Do as we say...not as we do. When you pull your head out of your ass, I suspect you'll tell us how you feel about all this bigotry coming from your side.

Good lord, it's like changing the subject is a compulsion with you. I guess I understand why: when you're losing your shirt in one debate, its best to change the terms. But just for shits & giggles, I wasn't that bothered by Martin's tweets. I'm much more bothered by people like you who support politicians who actively deny GLBT community their civil rights, and treat them like less than full humans. Real American of ya. Blow's comments blew & the criticisms were justified. But this idea of yours that somehow unless I actively come on this porn board to denounce every thing in the world that happens with which I disagree then I'm supporting it is so fucking stupid & hypocritical I'm embarrassed for you. Since you havent condemned the rapes & murders that took place today I can only assume you support them. Gimme a fuckin break.

[arnie666]

Personally I couldn't give a shit about a dirty dyke drug addict who had opportunities many can only dream of. . The day after I heard about her being dead I had to scoop up some tramp who had frozen to death in a park. Dead about a week, no one had reported him missing because no one gave a shit.I spent quite a bit of my time even after my shift ended trying to find out more about him, see if I could find a family member.

Personally the whole media obession with her and especially the fake concern shown by all these media luvvies when before she died no one gave a fuck about her flushing her life down the bog. Fake as fuck. Why is she worth more than my tramp?

And there is plenty of racism on the left about Black people. The whole welfare policy they love so much is there to keep the nigger on the plantation for their own selfish reasons. Black conservatives are labled by white media figures as uncle toms and aunt jemima.What the fuck would some old white guy or white woman on millions a year know about toms?

If I was black I wouldn't give a shit about being called a nigger or a coon by some anonymous person,or houston being called a nigger, for all you know it could be another nigger like you saying it to get a rise,you don't know who is behind the computer screen. What I would give a shit about,is how the media time and time again portrays blacks as sex obessed criminal rap stars who have zero respect for women, or good at sport or locked up in some institution. Or how the left want you all to keep sucking on that welfare teat,like they do the poor white people. That is what I would give a shit about.

Not some dead crack whore.

[russtafa]

:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:
Personally I couldn't give a shit about a dirty dyke drug addict who had opportunities many can only dream of. . The day after I heard about her being dead I had to scoop up some tramp who had frozen to death in a park. Dead about a week, no one had reported him missing because no one gave a shit.I spent quite a bit of my time even after my shift ended trying to find out more about him, see if I could find a family member.

Personally the whole media obession with her and especially the fake concern shown by all these media luvvies when before she died no one gave a fuck about her flushing her life down the bog. Fake as fuck. Why is she worth more than my tramp?

And there is plenty of racism on the left about Black people. The whole welfare policy they love so much is there to keep the nigger on the plantation for their own selfish reasons. Black conservatives are labled by white media figures as uncle toms and aunt jemima.What the fuck would some old white guy or white woman on millions a year know about toms?

If I was black I wouldn't give a shit about being called a nigger or a coon by some anonymous person,or houston being called a nigger, for all you know it could be another nigger like you saying it to get a rise,you don't know who is behind the computer screen. What I would give a shit about,is how the media time and time again portrays blacks as sex obessed criminal rap stars who have zero respect for women, or good at sport or locked up in some institution. Or how the left want you all to keep sucking on that welfare teat,like they do the poor white people. That is what I would give a shit about.

Not some dead crack whore.:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown: way to go, fuck they wont like that

[trish]

What wonderful human beings you two are! God bless.

[Stavros]

Personally I couldn't give a shit about a dirty dyke drug addict who had opportunities many can only dream of. . The day after I heard about her being dead I had to scoop up some tramp who had frozen to death in a park. Dead about a week, no one had reported him missing because no one gave a shit.I spent quite a bit of my time even after my shift ended trying to find out more about him, see if I could find a family member.

Personally the whole media obession with her and especially the fake concern shown by all these media luvvies when before she died no one gave a fuck about her flushing her life down the bog. Fake as fuck. Why is she worth more than my tramp?

And there is plenty of racism on the left about Black people. The whole welfare policy they love so much is there to keep the nigger on the plantation for their own selfish reasons. Black conservatives are labled by white media figures as uncle toms and aunt jemima.What the fuck would some old white guy or white woman on millions a year know about toms?

If I was black I wouldn't give a shit about being called a nigger or a coon by some anonymous person,or houston being called a nigger, for all you know it could be another nigger like you saying it to get a rise,you don't know who is behind the computer screen. What I would give a shit about,is how the media time and time again portrays blacks as sex obessed criminal rap stars who have zero respect for women, or good at sport or locked up in some institution. Or how the left want you all to keep sucking on that welfare teat,like they do the poor white people. That is what I would give a shit about.

Not some dead crack whore.

The editors in broadcasting decide who gets on the front page, or any page -there have been stories about down and outs or people living alone who died without anyone knowing who they were, it is the kind of story that is covered on an occasional basis. The Whitney Houston story was not important to me, as I don't know much about her, so your idea that this story has some kind of precedence over others presumes to know my agenda and other people's -it was a blip on my radar. Syria is important to me, for example.

Houston had personal problems, so what? Doesn't everyone? You don't know a single policeman in the UK who has a drink problem? As for the black experience, Crack was a problem for Whitney Houston's generation; Washington DC had one of the highest rates of gun crime per head of population in the world; yet since the 1990s it has all but collapsed as the crack cocaine market has collapsed -would you believe that better policing was a factor in the turnaround? Yes, and harsh gaol times; but here's the killer blow: the people, the young people -mostly Black people- who came after Houston looked at people like her and rejected that way of life. I don't doubt there is some new drug to take its place, but the gun crime that ravaged DC is not as serious as it was, because people and societies can change -unemployment is the most corrosive agent in our social fabric, whether it hits the old or the young, black people or 'dykes'.

You also know from you own work experience that many -probably most- people do not conform to stereotypes, so I don't know why you rely so much on such a flimsy argument.

[Silcc69]

Personally I couldn't give a shit about a dirty dyke drug addict who had opportunities many can only dream of. . The day after I heard about her being dead I had to scoop up some tramp who had frozen to death in a park. Dead about a week, no one had reported him missing because no one gave a shit.I spent quite a bit of my time even after my shift ended trying to find out more about him, see if I could find a family member.

Personally the whole media obession with her and especially the fake concern shown by all these media luvvies when before she died no one gave a fuck about her flushing her life down the bog. Fake as fuck. Why is she worth more than my tramp?

And there is plenty of racism on the left about Black people. The whole welfare policy they love so much is there to keep the nigger on the plantation for their own selfish reasons. Black conservatives are labled by white media figures as uncle toms and aunt jemima.What the fuck would some old white guy or white woman on millions a year know about toms?

If I was black I wouldn't give a shit about being called a nigger or a coon by some anonymous person,or houston being called a nigger, for all you know it could be another nigger like you saying it to get a rise,you don't know who is behind the computer screen. What I would give a shit about,is how the media time and time again portrays blacks as sex obessed criminal rap stars who have zero respect for women, or good at sport or locked up in some institution. Or how the left want you all to keep sucking on that welfare teat,like they do the poor white people. That is what I would give a shit about.

Not some dead crack whore.

4 years and still going strong with the racist shit.

[russtafa]

i wouldn't use the n word but the man was right about the media gushing crocodile tears about something that is so obvious

[EvonRose]

Addiction is something one sometimes cannot help, people don't know about it unless they are faced with this sickness themselves, its not as easy as taking a medicine and then getting better. Just like any other human being she is not immune to this! No one is perfect. respect should be given where it is! a person died and your calling her all sorts of names? you don't even know her to make these judgements. Her death is still unclear they don't even know if it was drugs that caused it or if it was an accidental death. People make all sorts of judgements because people hate someone with luck, and success... It is uneasy feeling to hear a bunch of this comments from people about another person who struggled, money does not guarantee you happiness, its just a number in the bank...

[onmyknees]

4 years and still going strong with the racist shit.

Think about it this way dude....There's a half dozen or so of you that are the Al Sharptons of HA. You see racism everywhere. You use it as a political tool....a defense, an offense. Now up steps Arnie....the real deal. Kinda makes the rest of them look like pikers...huh? lmao

[Silcc69]

Think about it this way dude....There's a half dozen or so of you that are the Al Sharptons of HA. You see racism everywhere. You use it as a political tool....a defense, an offense. Now up steps Arnie....the real deal. Kinda makes the rest of them look like pikers...huh? lmao

Take your head out of your ass and LOL at you comparing me to Al Sharpton. I guess that makes you blowhard Rush Limbaugh. He did have well known gay liberal Elton John sing at his 4th wedding. But that right the GOP by gosh they are such a stand up political organization.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=1077761#post1077761

But this is what Ericka admitted that she did while working for her local GOP:

(In Politics)
Voter fraud
Voter intimadition
Fixing an election
Buying/intmadating the press for positive strories/and keeping bad ones out of the papers
Closing polls early/understaffing/ in Democratic districts
Tax fraud for 527 political non-profits that support republican canidates.

:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

And for all the racist shit that arnie says at least he is funny, which is more than I can say about you.

[onmyknees]

Take your head out of your ass and LOL at you comparing me to Al Sharpton. I guess that makes you blowhard Rush Limbaugh. He did have well known gay liberal Elton John sing at his 4th wedding. But that right the GOP by gosh they are such a stand up political organization.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=1077761#post1077761

But this is what Ericka admitted that she did while working for her local GOP:

(In Politics)
Voter fraud
Voter intimadition
Fixing an election
Buying/intmadating the press for positive strories/and keeping bad ones out of the papers
Closing polls early/understaffing/ in Democratic districts
Tax fraud for 527 political non-profits that support republican canidates.

:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

And for all the racist shit that arnie says at least he is funny, which is more than I can say about you.


LMAO....are you really that gulliable ? Wait....allow me to answer that. YES YOU ARE, obviously. Suddenly Erica is your source for validity? Oh that's fucking rich. Well I suppose when you get your news from Olbermann, Sargent Shultz, and the Rev. Al, Erika is as good a source as any. Your threshold for major Fails is pretty low, and you've met it yet again. :dead-1:

[trish]

Voter fraud
Voter intimadition
Fixing an election
Buying/intmadating the press for positive strories/and keeping bad ones out of the papers
Closing polls early/understaffing/ in Democratic districts
Tax fraud for 527 political non-profits that support republican canidates.Not only are you GULLIBLE if you don't think the GOP participates in these activities, you're ignorant too.

[Stavros]

Erika has never denied being a paid up member of the Republican Party, not sitting on a fence, not an armchair republican. Looks like the view from inside the machine doesn't suit you. I don't doubt that nasty things happen in the Democrats machine, my experience of party politics in the UK suggests that there is an inherent tendency to ruthlessness that sometimes doesn't fit well with democracy in practice. As Blair might have said -Do you want to be in power, or not? At least admit its a dirty game.

[Silcc69]

LMAO....are you really that gulliable ? Wait....allow me to answer that. YES YOU ARE, obviously. Suddenly Erica is your source for validity? Oh that's fucking rich. Well I suppose when you get your news from Olbermann, Sargent Shultz, and the Rev. Al, Erika is as good a source as any. Your threshold for major Fails is pretty low, and you've met it yet again. :dead-1:

Your's is even worse given the fact that I have never quoted nor mentioned Olberman on here. Nor Shultz I don't even defend MSNBC so good lord your entire logic is a epic fail. But you were same guy that standing up for Erika a few months ago now all of the sudden there is a problem. Just like these right wing fools that tout state rights until it conflicts with there views.

[Faldur]

Not only are you GULLIBLE if you don't think the GOP participates in these activities, you're ignorant too.

Not only are you GULLIBLE if you don't think the Democrat party participates in these activities, you're ignorant too.

[onmyknees]

Your's is even worse given the fact that I have never quoted nor mentioned Olberman on here. Nor Shultz I don't even defend MSNBC so good lord your entire logic is a epic fail. But you were same guy that standing up for Erika a few months ago now all of the sudden there is a problem. Just like these right wing fools that tout state rights until it conflicts with there views.

You don't have to mention them....the association is rather obvious. Yes I defended Erika when no one else did, but someone does not shed years of political thought and ideology overnight....it's a bit too convenient. Get it? Isn't the fact that you're suddenly using something Erika said just a bit disingenuous ? But in your case, you'll take your info from wherever you can, as long as it lines up with what you're trying to convey...that's fucking pathetic. Oh Erika said it....so it must suddenly be true........even if it's not substantiated. What a fucking joke. So you believed nothing Erika said for months, in fact laughed at her.....until it was something you thought you could use. I mean really...you loath her. Who the fuck are you kidding dude? Shame on you for even brining her into the discussion. LMFAO

[trish]

Yes I defended Erika when no one else did, but someone does not shed years of political thought and ideology overnightShe's young. She's in undergraduate school. She hasn't stagnated like you have for ages on end.

Isn't the fact that you're suddenly using something Erika said just a bit disingenuous ? I think the phrase you're looking for is, "...just a bit inconvenient for me."

But in your case, you'll take your info from wherever you can, as long as it lines up with what you're trying to convey...Isn't it amusing how OMK always manages to project his own FAIL onto others? Not just amusing, but fucking pathetic.

So you believed nothing Erika said for months...So you believed and supported Erika in everything she said for months, and now...now that her claims don't line up with your personal idiot-ology...now she's an untrustworthy, lying turncoat. Maybe she was even a liberal infiltrator. Who are you fucking kidding. Shame on you and your little limp brain-cell. LMFAO@U

[Silcc69]

You don't have to mention them....the association is rather obvious. Yes I defended Erika when no one else did, but someone does not shed years of political thought and ideology overnight....it's a bit too convenient. Get it? Isn't the fact that you're suddenly using something Erika said just a bit disingenuous ? But in your case, you'll take your info from wherever you can, as long as it lines up with what you're trying to convey...that's fucking pathetic. Oh Erika said it....so it must suddenly be true........even if it's not substantiated. What a fucking joke. So you believed nothing Erika said for months, in fact laughed at her.....until it was something you thought you could use. I mean really...you loath her. Who the fuck are you kidding dude? Shame on you for even brining her into the discussion. LMFAO

LMFAO!! I LOL at Erika when Steven posted that weird email she sent him. Otherwise I haven't done anything else wrongful for her. Hell I have defended her on some other issues. But don't believe me just go ask her. But your hardcore neocon views have worn out on here.

[yodajazz]

Take your head out of your ass and LOL at you comparing me to Al Sharpton. I guess that makes you blowhard Rush Limbaugh. He did have well known gay liberal Elton John sing at his 4th wedding. But that right the GOP by gosh they are such a stand up political organization.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=1077761#post1077761

But this is what Ericka admitted that she did while working for her local GOP:

(In Politics)
Voter fraud
Voter intimadition
Fixing an election
Buying/intmadating the press for positive strories/and keeping bad ones out of the papers
Closing polls early/understaffing/ in Democratic districts
Tax fraud for 527 political non-profits that support republican canidates.

:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

And for all the racist shit that arnie says at least he is funny, which is more than I can say about you.

Ericka lives in Ohio. I have seen media documentation to support some of those allegations. This is particularly true of the 2004 Presidential election, where the Republican Secretary of State, whose job it was to run the election, in the state, was also Bush's campaign chairman, for the state. Voting machines, were taken out of heavily urban districts which were heavly Democratic. The lines for the polls, were shown from a helicopter view, which stretched for blocks, in a documentary I saw. Also college towns, had few voting machines and many student, who are typically more liberal, complained of waiting many hours in line. This state decided the 2004 presidential election, yet 56 of 88 counties violated federal law by destroying election result evidence before it was legal to do so. In addition there was an injunction from destroying evidence as a result of a lawsuit.

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2007/2920

2004 United States election voting controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_election_voting_controversies)

http://harpers.org/archive/2005/08/0080696
At Kenyon College in Gambier, for instance, there were only two machines for 1,300 would-be voters, even though “a surge of late registrations promised a record vote.” Gambier residents and Kenyon students had to stand in line for hours, in the rain and in “crowded, narrow hallways,” with some of them inevitably forced to call it quits. “In contrast, at nearby Mt. Vernon Nazarene University, which is considered more Republican leaning, there were ample waiting machines and no lines.”

These are Ohio colleges.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/40/wedge-issues-on-the-ballot
See the section, called "Ohio, Ohio, Ohio". This article discusses the 'wedge' issue phenomenom, particularly the gay marriage issue.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/2004votefraud_ohio.html

While investigating for BBC Television, we obtained three dozen of the Republican Party's confidential "caging lists," their title for the spreadsheets that list the names and addresses of Ohio voters they intended to block on any pretext. Every address of the thousands on these Republican hit lists was located in black-majority precincts. You might find that nasty and racist. It may also be a crime. [Greg Palast (http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=393&row=0)]

IN mid-August [2003], Walden W. O'Dell, the chief executive of Diebold Inc. (http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html), sat down at his computer to compose a letter inviting 100 wealthy and politically inclined friends to a Republican Party fund-raiser, to be held at his home in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio. ''I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year,''

Deibold was the company that designed many of Ohio's voting machines.

[Stavros]

In the USA is the practical side of voting not organised by a non-party organisation? I don't understand how an official of a party can be responsible for things like ballot boxes. In the UK there is an Electoral Commission who is responsible for organising local and national elections. The staff are usually drawn from local government, but the parties who are competing for the votes are not allowed into the polling stations and are not allowed to touch the boxes. They are allowed to watch the votes being counted but cannot so much as touch a ballot paper. Seems like Ohio is more like Nigeria than I thought.

[russtafa]

In the USA is the practical side of voting not organised by a non-party organisation? I don't understand how an official of a party can be responsible for things like ballot boxes. In the UK there is an Electoral Commission who is responsible for organising local and national elections. The staff are usually drawn from local government, but the parties who are competing for the votes are not allowed into the polling stations and are not allowed to touch the boxes. They are allowed to watch the votes being counted but cannot so much as touch a ballot paper. Seems like Ohio is more like Nigeria than I thought.i agree it's only common sense