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onmyknees
01-14-2012, 05:39 PM
Enjoy the clip....It's almost like looking in the mirror when you think about it !


http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-12-2012/civil-disservice

trish
01-14-2012, 07:07 PM
Enjoy the clip....It's almost like looking in the mirror when you think about it !Gotta say I never heard of Froma Harrop before. But oooh, the irony of the post is more excruciating than the clip itself. Stop! Please stop! It almost hurts.

Dino Velvet
01-14-2012, 09:00 PM
Enjoy the clip....It's almost like looking in the mirror when you think about it !


http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-12-2012/civil-disservice

Thanks for that. That broad is a dope. I wouldn't entrust her to oversee a Tupperware Party.

onmyknees
01-14-2012, 10:57 PM
Gotta say I never heard of Froma Harrop before. But oooh, the irony of the post is more excruciating than the clip itself. Stop! Please stop! It almost hurts.

Some of her protestations about the Tea Party are word for word what you've said. In fact....if I were her, I'd be concerned about plagiarizing charges forthcoming now that you know who she is and what she's said !! Sisters in Solidarity ( and Irony) I'd have to say. lol:dancing:

trish
01-15-2012, 12:14 AM
Speaking of plagiarizing, weren't you accused here of plagiarizing? Wow! You and Froma have soooo much in common! Both accused of the same thing! Sisters in Solidarity I'd say. :dancing::dancing:

onmyknees
01-15-2012, 05:23 PM
Bill Maher Admits His Audience Are 'Brainwashed Liberals'.mp4 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgHskIC_i3g)

My word...is there no progressive sanctuaries left? First Comedy Central, now this from Maher. Ya know the thing about comedy is it has to have some truth to actually be funny....but not to worry. Stewart and Maher may have copped, but we need SNL to get on board, then we'd have a real scoop !! A Trifecta !!!!!!!!!LMAO

trish
01-15-2012, 10:20 PM
Ya know the thing about comedy is it has to have some truth to actually be funnyWhich exactly explains why no one laughed. LOL By the way, it shouldn't be a surprise that Bill finds Ron Paul appealing: Bill is a libertarian, not a progressive.

Bobby Domino
01-15-2012, 10:47 PM
great clips!!! Thanks!!!

Ben
01-16-2012, 02:25 AM
Bill Maher Admits His Audience Are 'Brainwashed Liberals'.mp4 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgHskIC_i3g)

My word...is there no progressive sanctuaries left? First Comedy Central, now this from Maher. Ya know the thing about comedy is it has to have some truth to actually be funny....but not to worry. Stewart and Maher may have copped, but we need SNL to get on board, then we'd have a real scoop !! A Trifecta !!!!!!!!!LMAO

Liberals and progressives, as it were, agree with Ron Paul on his foreign policy positions. But Maher doesn't agree with Paul on his domestic agenda. Nor do so-called liberals and progressives.
Both parties are pretty much similar when it comes to foreign policy. I mean, what's the difference between Bush and Obama with respect to foreign policy? Nothing.
Both Bush and Obama both had and have a bellicose attitude. (I think Maher was indirectly calling his audience: Obamabots. Meaning they, liberals, wholeheartedly support him no matter what he does. He can, as he has done, carry out the same foreign policy as Bush. And so-called liberals will rally behind Obama and support him. I mean, if it was wrong under Bush. Then it should be wrong under Obama.
And Obama is much worse when it comes to civil liberties than Bush. Doesn't matter. Liberals cheer. That's the Obamabots that Maher refers to -- :))

trish
01-16-2012, 02:59 AM
if it was wrong under Bush. Then it should be wrong under Obama. What was wrong under Bush was initiating a preemptive war in Iraq. Obama finally managed to get our troops out. Rooting out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan is a different story. Anyone who voted for Obama voted for continuing the Afghan War, it was part of Obama's campaign. When it comes to foreign policy Ron really does have three heads. Given the dangers of this world (nuclear proliferation, an unstable Middle East, China rising, regime change in Korea, an ambiguous Pakistan), how can we have a world class economy and not have a world class military? What we shouldn't do is go off half cocked starting preemptive wars and spending money on those wars that's not put in the budget until the next administration takes charge.

Of course Ron's perspective (and perhaps your own, Ben) is that the war in Afghanistan was and is wrong. Then yes, of course it's wrong under both Bush and Obama. But that's was probably not the starting point of most audience members. It is Bill's starting point. But of course Bill is a libertarian.

onmyknees
01-16-2012, 05:47 AM
Which exactly explains why no one laughed. LOL By the way, it shouldn't be a surprise that Bill finds Ron Paul appealing: Bill is a libertarian, not a progressive.

oh trust me .........i laughed my ass off. In fact it was the first humorous thing I ever heard Maher say.

You're Wrong....but nice try. He's about as libertarian as you. Maher is a hybrid...... part socialist, part progressive sprinkled in with " 1%" capitalist !
Listen to him in his own words....He's light years away from being a libertarian, but again....nice stab.

Andrew Breitbart gets Bill Maher to admit he's a Socialist - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0__B0hO2jw)

Dino Velvet
01-16-2012, 06:01 AM
oh trust me .........i laughed my ass off. In fact it was the first humorous thing I ever heard Maher say.

You're Wrong....but nice try. He's about as libertarian as you. Maher is a hybrid...... part socialist, part progressive sprinkled in with " 1%" capitalist !
Listen to him in his own words....He's light years away from being a libertarian, but again....nice stab.

Andrew Breitbart gets Bill Maher to admit he's a Socialist - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0__B0hO2jw)

I see Breitbart in Westwood Village Ralph's all the time. Gave him a "what's up" head nod once and he thought I was going for his wallet. Had a similar run-in with Deepak Chopra at Von's over at Sepulveda/National. Everybody is weird in the grocery store. Maybe it's me.

trish
01-16-2012, 06:23 AM
Ya know the thing about comedy is it has to have some truth to actually be funny.Which exactly explains why no one laughed. LOL


oh trust me .........i laughed my ass off.Proving you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass. (You're too fucking easy).

Dino Velvet
01-16-2012, 06:27 AM
What good is comedy if nobody's feelings get hurt? Don't work Blue, work Black 'n' Blue. If they don't laugh, throw a grenade in the audience. If they applaud instead of laugh then treat them like dead Taliban.

hippifried
01-16-2012, 09:22 AM
I see Breitbart in Westwood Village Ralph's all the time. Gave him a "what's up" head nod once and he thought I was going for his wallet. Had a similar run-in with Deepak Chopra at Von's over at Sepulveda/National. Everybody is weird in the grocery store. Maybe it's me.
Well, you're scary & all that, but when you mix that with the natural wierdness of Vons, actual celebrities would be aprehensive, & a loudmouthed wimpy punk like Breitbart would go into a total panic.

Dino Velvet
01-16-2012, 09:51 AM
Well, you're scary & all that, but when you mix that with the natural wierdness of Vons, actual celebrities would be aprehensive, & a loudmouthed wimpy punk like Breitbart would go into a total panic.

I was trying to give Breitbart a thumbs up and he might have thought it was another finger. It's weird watching him shop there.

The kids at Vons said Deepak Chopra is a demanding asshole and comes in all the time.

I'm not scary, Hippi. Just large with goofy blue thyroid eyes.

Prospero
01-16-2012, 06:19 PM
:iagree::iagree::iagree:

100 per cent on the money Trish.

"What was wrong under Bush was initiating a preemptive war in Iraq. Obama finally managed to get our troops out. Rooting out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan is a different story. Anyone who voted for Obama voted for continuing the Afghan War, it was part of Obama's campaign. When it comes to foreign policy Ron really does have three heads. Given the dangers of this world (nuclear proliferation, an unstable Middle East, China rising, regime change in Korea, an ambiguous Pakistan), how can we have a world class economy and not have a world class military? What we shouldn't do is go off half cocked starting preemptive wars and spending money on those wars that's not put in the budget until the next administration takes charge."

onmyknees
01-20-2012, 02:07 AM
:iagree::iagree::iagree:

100 per cent on the money Trish.

"What was wrong under Bush was initiating a preemptive war in Iraq. Obama finally managed to get our troops out. Rooting out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan is a different story. Anyone who voted for Obama voted for continuing the Afghan War, it was part of Obama's campaign. When it comes to foreign policy Ron really does have three heads. Given the dangers of this world (nuclear proliferation, an unstable Middle East, China rising, regime change in Korea, an ambiguous Pakistan), how can we have a world class economy and not have a world class military? What we shouldn't do is go off half cocked starting preemptive wars and spending money on those wars that's not put in the budget until the next administration takes charge."



PREEMPTIVE OR PREVENTIVE?
There has been talk of a preemptive strike or a preemptive war. But even if everything that has been leaked and much, much more turns out to be true in spades, what the Bush administration is talking about is not a preemptive war but a preventive war. That is something the United States has never done before. We should think long and hard before we allow our leaders to do it this time.
"There’s a well-accepted definition for preemptive war in international law," Joseph Cirincione, Director of the Non-Proliferation Project of the Carnegie Endowment, told me on the telephone last week. "Preemptive war is justified by an imminent threat of attack, a clear and present danger that the country in question is about to attack you. In such a case a preemptive attack is recognized as justifiable."
During the 1967 Six Day War, Israel attacked first, but Egyptian and Syrian troops were massing on the border and airplanes were being mobilized. For most observers that was the very definition of a preemptive attack, although scholars and international relations experts are still able to debate whether the attack was justified under international law. But there is little question that there was an imminent threat.

onmyknees
01-20-2012, 02:12 AM
Which exactly explains why no one laughed. LOL

Proving you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass. (You're too fucking easy).

And this coming from someone who often speaks of facts, but rarely if ever produces any. And you're questioning my veracity? :whistle:

Stavros
01-20-2012, 03:14 AM
Surely the key distinction is between a pre-emptive/preventive strike and a pre-emptive war? And I am not sure what the difference is between pre-emptive and preventive action.

1967 is not a good example because Israel had been attacking its neighbours on a regular basis since the end of the 1950s, and its neighbours had hit back at various times as well; historians tend to view the increase in Israeli violence in 1966 as part of the key momentum to war, further fuelled by the inflammatory speeches of Nasser and the inflated belief the Arabs had that one more war would see off the Israelis.

Israel's bombing of the nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981 (named after Jaques Chirac as it was the French who, having sponsored Israel's nuclear industry in the 1950s turned to Iraq in the 1970s) can be seen as a preventive strike against a facility that Israel believed was detrimental to its long-term security, which in any case is as bad now as it was then. Such strikes send messages to enemies, but they are strikes -a war, however, is a different proposition because it might last six days, or six years; it might cost a $million or a $trillion. Hence the importance of diplomacy, to defuse the tensions, to reign back the military, to prevent rather than pre-empt.

I don't know what this has to do with John Stewart, but then I don't know who he is anyway.

hippifried
01-20-2012, 04:08 AM
I don't know what this has to do with John Stewart, but then I don't know who he is anyway.

He's a comedian with a show (The Daily Show) on the Comedy Central cable network. T^he show spoofs the news & highlights the the most absurd political idiocies of the day. Funny stuff.