Breast implants - illness and expectations

[Prospero]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/breast-implant-panic-spreads-to-uk-6279884.html

This story appeared in UK newspapers today - a cause of concern for thousands of women who've had breast implants and also for many TS girls. At present it is primarily women who've had implants done in France.

But it does point to something bigger which is the cultural pressure on women and on TS women to conform to the notion that large breasts are a necessity if they are to appear beautiful. I recall a few years ago a radio advert in the US for a competition. The first prize was free breast enhancement.

Why cannot we men and the wider culture support women looking the way that they were built (by God or nature) rather than them buying into this stereotype and engaging in surgery which can be so dangerous. And even if not it often leaves unsightly scars.

There is a thread here called something like "I like them flat too."

Food for thought?

[FreddieGomez]

i may be the only one but i find fake tits not so appealing

[needsum]

Freddie you aren't alone. Sure, I love to see some meaty, beaty, big and bouncy boobage. But I also really enjoy a woman who has smaller, pert breasts as well. Love 'em real, no matter what size. Implants can be wonderful, if done right. However, I Feel, if you are going to get your boobs done, then do it for 2 reasons:

1: you've had a kid, and because of that, they are saggy and in bad shape.
2: you are flat, but your body would be more proportioned if you had maybe a B or small C-cup.
addendum would be for a gurl transitioning to fill out her body, in proportion, to allow her to become more perfectly feminine.

anything more is overkill. sexy? sure, it could be. but is it REALLY necessary? most likely, not.

[RallyCola]

breasts are like cars...each has a certain level of enjoyment. sometimes i drive my big ford fuck you mobile getting 12 MPG and other times i drive my 370z because good things come in all sizes of packages. i don't care if they are fake or not. what i care about most is do they look good on the girl. they have to fit her overall frame/body weight. if i like how they look on her, i don't care what they are made of.

I'll give you an example....using 2 of my favorite black tgirls. china was a cutie without implants...now she is utterly amazing because she looks so much more fem to me. amyiaa starr, on the other hand has a really bad boob job and despite the fact that i love her face, southern accent and her vigor in HC scenes (love that jack hammer ts seduction clip), her boobs are a huge turn off because the look like her doctor got his license from a cereal box.

[LibertyHarkness]

as with all surgeries there is always risks .. the world we live in :) make your choices and play your hand :)

[tsadriana]

if i want big breast i order some for 1000£ and no risk of anything looks real ,and if im not happy with them take off.but im very satisfy with my small tits from hormones.

[Nikka]

German Porn Actress Sexy Cora rest in Peace

[Prospero]

It's worth being aware of this stuff. Guys should be aware too of the risks that the girls take.

[jerseyboy72]

German Porn Actress Sexy Cora rest in Peace


That chick with the tattoos? She is dead? She was so hot.

[Ineeda SM]

if i want big breast i order some for 1000£ and no risk of anything looks real ,and if im not happy with them take off.but im very satisfy with my small tits from hormones.

:iagree: Your breasts are sexy on you, baby. We are all satisfied with them. Because they represent the real you.

If a woman is born with large breasts, they are great. If they are born with small or even tiny breasts, that is equally great. Because they are real It is the real of it that makes it sexy. Enlargements on GG and TS are often lumpy or hard, and do not look real. They are too often improperly shaped, uneven, and usually because they are oversized.

It is amazing how many girls get implants because they think that is what guys want to see. If they are natural, then yes we want to see them, touch them, play with them, lick them....... But if they look really fake, then you went through the surgery for nothing. We don't give one single shit if you have big or tiny breasts. It is NOT what makes you sexy. How you carry yourself and your attitude makes you sexy. Adriana is the perfect example of this.

Us guys would rather look at Adriana's sexy real body all day and night, than to look at a girl with oversized fake looking silicone show-tits.

[Ben]

German Porn Actress Sexy Cora rest in Peace

Very tragic, very sad....

Carolin Berger, German porn star nicknamed Cora, dead after sixth breast enlargement surgery

BY ALIYAH SHAHID
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Friday, January 21, 2011

The sixth breast enlargement was just too much for one German porn star.
Carolin Berger, better known as Cora, died on Thursday afternoon from complications suffered during her sixth breast augmentation surgery.
Berger, 23, wanted to increase her bust from a 34F to a 34G.
The tattooed film star, who garnered headlines as a contestant on Germany's "Big Brother," had been put in an artificial coma at the Hamburg University Hospital on Jan. 11, the BBC reported.
It's believed that Berger suffered two cardiac arrests after the surgery. According to reports, she decided to go under the knife to keep up her publicity.
"The brain damage was too great," her husband, Tim, told The Sun. "Her blood pressure dropped steadily, physiological functions gave out - then she went to sleep quietly."
German cops are investigating the anesthesiologist and the surgeon who performed the operation.
"The senseless death of 'Big Brother' star Cora shocks the whole of Germany," read Bild, the country's tabloid.
"[Her] frail, 48kg [106 pound] body struggled against death for 224 hours. She lost. Cora is dead!"

[Ineeda SM]

How sad indeed. Only 23 years old. Such a waste of life. And all for money. Was it worth it?

[RallyCola]

the problem is that when you point out a story like this, especially when it involves a girl we knew, it gives the wrong impression. its like if you put up a story of a tgirl in brazil getting HIV from her dentist during a root canal...would the implication be that because someone got aids from their dentist that we should all be wary of them....no.

there are 1000s of breast augmentations done each day without any complications. there are risks involved in every procedure, but if you are getting any procedure done by a board certified plastic surgeon with a good track record, its likely to be a success because breast augmentation is about as standard as a root canal.

[Prospero]

The point of the story -which is developed in today's press - s that a particular rogue company in France was using sub-standard material which has made some people ill.

The wider issue i raised was the way the background culture makes women so dissatisfied with their bodies,

[RallyCola]

To speak to the wider issue of body dysmorphic disorder, whether you believe it is a rampant as some shrinks want you to believe or not, means that you want to address the root cause of WHY women (trans or genetic) choose to go under the knife.

let's put it this way...do you dress in ragged tshirts and smelly sweatpants everyday? do you let your hair run wild, uncut, unwashed and unstyled. do you not cut your fingernails and leave them long and dirty?

if yes, then i see your point, but please stay away.

if no, then you are victim to the same social pressures to look presentable that we all are. if you dress well, cut/comb your hair etc...you must realize that you make choices to look good based on what society says looks good. You don't run out side in a plaid shirt with white bellbottom pants and a mullet. It is no different with surgical procedures used to change your looks. You, as many will say, might claim that one is far more invasive than the other, but its not the point...everyone makes choices because of what we perceive our role in society to be. Society has trends and a market for everyone. You can't claim that its the culture telling women that they need large breasts because it just isn't true. Almost all fashion models have little to no boobage. Most women in hollywood have average b-c cups which is what the normal boob size in america is but A cup cuties do just fine in the media as well. There are very few D-cup hotties that have mainstream success...they are usually regulated to b-movies and porn. Pick up one fashion magazine and show me any girl in it that has the size of tits sarina valentina has.

My point is that there is less and less pressure from society to have breast augmentation. Maybe 25 years ago when silicone implants were all the rage and they couldn't make them fast enough, but now, its just simply a choice a woman makes as easily as if she should get tattooed or get a new color of lipstick. its not a big deal to have them or not. it really isn't.

that said...you are on a forum that is a genre of porn unique to itself. for financial reasons, tgirls have to be more considerate of the costs/benefits of implants because not all can afford the best doctors or are internet porn stars rolling in cash. more importantly is the issue of what it means to be a woman. if you are a female, you have a leg up because genetically, you are generally predisposed to develop into a woman. as a male, genetically predisposed to develop into a man, to transition, you have to take a hormone regimen that also truly screws with your neurochemistry and normal physiological function. taking oral premarin or whatever each girl is on is not without complications as well. so...to be a woman means you have secondary sex characteristics commensurate with femininity. Boobs are one of them. So if a girl will feel more feminine with implants, that's not society telling her that, that is her desire to look/appear more how she feels on the inside.

I think perhaps, after re-reading your post, though your intent may not have been to do so...you are clearly so biased that you can't realize what you really said. you said...


Why cannot we men and the wider culture support women looking the way that they were built (by God or nature) rather than them buying into this stereotype and engaging in surgery which can be so dangerous. And even if not it often leaves unsightly scars.

if that is the case, then you are essentially going far beyond the issue of implants because god/nature made tgirls genetically male so, if we are to support people they way they are built, then they should not even take hormones...they should just simply crossdress because nature did not intend for them to have so much estrogen and progesterone coursing through them. i am sure you are not willing to make that leap even though your argument clearly does.

[lisaparadise]

Very tragic, very sad....

Carolin Berger, German porn star nicknamed Cora, dead after sixth breast enlargement surgery

BY ALIYAH SHAHID
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Friday, January 21, 2011

The sixth breast enlargement was just too much for one German porn star.
Carolin Berger, better known as Cora, died on Thursday afternoon from complications suffered during her sixth breast augmentation surgery.
Berger, 23, wanted to increase her bust from a 34F to a 34G.
The tattooed film star, who garnered headlines as a contestant on Germany's "Big Brother," had been put in an artificial coma at the Hamburg University Hospital on Jan. 11, the BBC reported.
It's believed that Berger suffered two cardiac arrests after the surgery. According to reports, she decided to go under the knife to keep up her publicity.
"The brain damage was too great," her husband, Tim, told The Sun. "Her blood pressure dropped steadily, physiological functions gave out - then she went to sleep quietly."
German cops are investigating the anesthesiologist and the surgeon who performed the operation.
"The senseless death of 'Big Brother' star Cora shocks the whole of Germany," read Bild, the country's tabloid.
"[Her] frail, 48kg [106 pound] body struggled against death for 224 hours. She lost. Cora is dead!"ya thats so sad she was my fav pornstar by far.

[lisaparadise]

That chick with the tattoos? She is dead? She was so hot. Sexy Cora Rip - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tJyVPQznhU&feature=player_embedded)#!

[Nikka]

That chick with the tattoos? She is dead? She was so hot.

yes her, for a simple boobjob in germany

[RallyCola]

yes her, for a simple boobjob in germany

yeah, but it could have happened during any procedure because, if the reports i read are accurate, she went into cardiac arrest before the plastic surgeon even got to her...the anesthesiologist botched his job and that's why he was charged with manslaughter. could have happened if she had the same anesthesiologist for a hernia operation or to have her knee scoped.