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Dino Velvet
12-15-2011, 05:31 AM
I'm not in the biz but I'd like others opinion on this. I bought it and have always supported Louis CK.



The Value of Distribution: Louis CK

https://buy.louisck.net/statement


A STATEMENT FROM LOUIS CK. December 13, 2011:

People of Earth (minus the ones who don't give a shit about this): it's been amazing to conduct this experiment with you. The experiment was: if I put out a brand new standup special at a drastically low price ($5) and make it as easy as possible to buy, download and enjoy, free of any restrictions, will everyone just go and steal it? Will they pay for it? And how much money can be made by an individual in this manner?

It's been 4 days. A lot of people are asking me how it's going. I've been hesitant to share the actual figures, because there's power in exclusive ownership of information. What I didn't expect when I started this was that people would not only take part in this experiment, they would be invested in it and it would be important to them. It's been amazing to see people in large numbers advocating this idea. So I think it's only fair that you get to know the results. Also, it's just really cool and fun and I'm dying to tell everybody. I told my Mom, I told three friends, and that wasn't nearly enough. So here it is.

First of all, this was a premium video production, shot with six cameras over two performances at the Beacon Theater, which is a high-priced elite Manhattan venue. I directed this video myself and the production of the video cost around $170,000. (This was largely paid for by the tickets bought by the audiences at both shows). The material in the video was developed over months on the road and has never been seen on my show (LOUIE) or on any other special. The risks were thus: every new generation of material I create is my income, it's like a farmer's annual crop. The time and effort on my part was far more than if I'd done it with a big company. If I'd done it with a big company, I would have a guarantee of a sizable fee, as opposed to this way, where I'm actually investing my own money.

The development of the website, which needed to be a very robust, reliable and carefully constructed website, was around $32,000. We worked for a number of weeks poring over the site to make sure every detail would give buyers a simple, optimal and humane experience for buying the video. I edited the video around the clock for the weeks between the show and the launch.

The show went on sale at noon on Saturday, December 10th. 12 hours later, we had over 50,000 purchases and had earned $250,000, breaking even on the cost of production and website. As of Today, we've sold over 110,000 copies for a total of over $500,000. Minus some money for PayPal charges etc, I have a profit around $200,000 (after taxes $75.58). This is less than I would have been paid by a large company to simply perform the show and let them sell it to you, but they would have charged you about $20 for the video. They would have given you an encrypted and regionally restricted video of limited value, and they would have owned your private information for their own use. They would have withheld international availability indefinitely. This way, you only paid $5, you can use the video any way you want, and you can watch it in Dublin, whatever the city is in Belgium, or Dubai. I got paid nice, and I still own the video (as do you). You never have to join anything, and you never have to hear from us again.

I really hope people keep buying it a lot, so I can have shitloads of money, but at this point I think we can safely say that the experiment really worked. If anybody stole it, it wasn't many of you. Pretty much everybody bought it. And so now we all get to know that about people and stuff. I'm really glad I put this out here this way and I'll certainly do it again. If the trend continues with sales on this video, my goal is that i can reach t9he point where when I sell anything, be it videos, CDs or tickets to my tours, I'll do it here and I'll continue to follow the model of keeping my price as far down as possible, not overmarketing to you, keeping as few people between you and me as possible in the transaction.
(Of course i reserve the right to go back on all of this and sign a massive deal with a company that pays me fat coin and charges you straight up the ass.). (This is you: yes Louie. And we'll all enjoy *******ing that content. You fat sweaty dolt).

I probably sound kind of crazy right now. It's been a really fun and intense few days. This video was paid for by people who bought tickets, and then bought by people who wanted to see that same show. I got to do exactly the show I wanted, and exactly the show you wanted.

I also got an education. And everything i learned are things i was happy to learn.
I learned that people are interested in what happens and shit (i didn't go to college)

I learned that money can be a lot of things. It can be something that is hoarded, fought over, protected, stolen and withheld. Or it can be like an energy, fueled by the desire, will, creative interest, need to laugh, of large groups of people. And it can be shuffled and pushed around and pooled together to fuel a common interest, jokes about garbage, penises and parenthood.


I want to thank Blair Breard who produced this video and produces my series LOUIE, and I want to thank Caspar and Giles at Version Industries, who created the website.

I hope with all of my heart that I stay funny. Otherwise this all goes to hell. Please have a safe and happy holiday, and thank you again for all this crazy shit.

Sincerely,
Louis C.K.

Jamie French
12-15-2011, 09:01 AM
I bought a copy a couple of days ago, promote it through all my social networking accounts, and will continue to pay for it everytime I watch it even though you get to own a HD copy on the initial purchase. Louie is nothing less than the premier comic/thinker of our generation and would still wind up to be that way even if we hadn't lost Carlin.

This sales model should be adopted by anyone who actually gives a fuck about what they put out into the world and the people who are good enough to purchase it.

Dino Velvet
12-15-2011, 10:10 PM
I bought a copy a couple of days ago, promote it through all my social networking accounts, and will continue to pay for it everytime I watch it even though you get to own a HD copy on the initial purchase. Louie is nothing less than the premier comic/thinker of our generation and would still wind up to be that way even if we hadn't lost Carlin.

This sales model should be adopted by anyone who actually gives a fuck about what they put out into the world and the people who are good enough to purchase it.

I think Louis CK is the best too.

rape! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu9q4sM1vmc)

George Carlin - Tips For Serial Killers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P79lA_pJWaU&feature=related)

http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/182/182042_1_f.jpg

BellaBellucci
12-15-2011, 11:13 PM
Revolution, baby!

~BB~

Dino Velvet
12-15-2011, 11:18 PM
Louis CK - Being White - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY)

Louis C.K. - I like to hate people - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt9G33TLS6I&feature=related)

Dino Velvet
12-15-2011, 11:22 PM
Offended by the "N word" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ)

Jackal
12-16-2011, 12:42 AM
C.K. is really one of the best living American comics.

Odelay
12-16-2011, 04:25 AM
Louis is good, and I have to support this revenue model. Need to find some time to watch it. Maybe this weekend. The "being white" jokes are some of the funniest standup I've seen in years, but the rest of his stuff is good, too.

Dino Velvet
12-16-2011, 07:02 AM
Louis is good, and I have to support this revenue model. Need to find some time to watch it. Maybe this weekend. The "being white" jokes are some of the funniest standup I've seen in years, but the rest of his stuff is good, too.

He did the "Being White" bit on Leno's couch and was even better.

Louie, his FX show, is very good too. He does a nice job in the acting, writing, and directing portions. Those 2 kid daughters are real naturals.

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/louie-blu-ray-cover.jpg

johnb85
12-16-2011, 07:43 PM
I guess I live under a rock, but I have never heard of this guy. I'm going to buy his $5 show, and even if it's total shit, I will still feel good about having supported this concept.

Steve-Oh
12-18-2011, 06:49 AM
He's great.
I like his delivery.

Odelay
12-21-2011, 02:57 PM
Good show. Worth the $5. He's sort of at the top of his game right now so this whole $5 "experiment" was bound to work.

RallyCola
12-21-2011, 05:02 PM
Not to be a downer...but there is a problem with his experiment.

1) the simple fact is that most people who pirate would not buy anything at any price because they just don't want to. yes, the occasional pirate who hasn't amassed a crap ton of video/music/movies/porn may pony up $5, but for the hardcore downloaders that refuse to buy anything...they still stole and uploaded the video...because I've seen his stuff floating around everywhere.

2) The design of his experiment was flawed. To be a true experiment, he should have just started selling it for $5 and not told anyone it was an experiment because I know a lot of people that bought it just to support him and prove a point. That makes his sales figures off because though he did sell far more units at a discounted price and pocketed more money than traditional marketing/production/distribution channels would have paid him, he did so by telling people it was an anti-piracy experiment. Finally, the other part of this is, though we can never accurately tell, is how many people would have bought this special for "full price" or owned legal copies of CK's other shows prior to this purchase.

My point is...don't read too much into this experiment because its conclusions, while making CK some dough, are not as far reaching as they seem because his show is still online for free in lots of places and still being watched for free by people that would never pay for it.

Odelay
12-22-2011, 02:33 AM
No one is saying that this show isn't being pirated. CK is inferring that perhaps less people are pirating it because it's at a reasonable price point.

Jamie French
12-22-2011, 03:10 AM
Also, it's Louie C. motherfuckin' K. If he asked for $5 just because, I'd still send it to him. His FX show alone is worth any random hand out he'd ask for, (he wouldn't.)

Dino Velvet
12-22-2011, 04:22 AM
Also, it's Louie C. motherfuckin' K. If he asked for $5 just because, I'd still send it to him. His FX show alone is worth any random hand out he'd ask for, (he wouldn't.)

I was expecting the FX show to be funny but the acting and directing are a pleasant surprise too.

Love the one where he follows the Black Girl all over town, on the subway, until he got to her front door thinking there might be a .003% chance of him scoring with her. He did get some.

The one where he went to do stand-up in Alabama was hilarious too. "She a big fan of yooooou!" The queer redneck sheriff too.