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FreddieGomez
12-13-2011, 05:01 AM
I recall her on blacktgirls and she was decent looking.

Str8NoChaser - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfecm37j_Ao&feature=relmfu)

Ineeda SM
12-13-2011, 05:05 AM
Who is that Freddie? Are there any pics to show who he was?

FreddieGomez
12-13-2011, 05:05 AM
Who is that Freddie? Are there any pics to show who he was?

i dont remember the name. just the face.

this was her before

ameil23's Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/ameil23#p/u/49/B9nkbD76t9A)

Ineeda SM
12-13-2011, 05:11 AM
Yeah OK. The face is familiar. Wow what a difference. Hey if he is happier as a man, then good for him.

onmyknees
12-13-2011, 05:55 AM
And the point is.......................?????????

Ineeda SM
12-13-2011, 06:06 AM
And the point is.......................?????????

If you don't get the point already, then the explaination will not help you.

onmyknees
12-13-2011, 06:18 AM
If you don't get the point already, then the explaination will not help you.

Twinkie....there isn't a fucking thing you could ever explain to me. You're not that smart... But humor me for a moment...I'm bored. In light of Freddie's constant, chronic posts putting "trannies" in a negative light espicially black ones in transition, even as recently as yesterday....why the fuck don't you explain just what his point was....since you seem to be his self appointed spokesman?

Ineeda SM
12-13-2011, 06:41 AM
Twinkie....there isn't a fucking thing you could ever explain to me. You're not that smart... But humor me for a moment...I'm bored. In light of Freddie's constant, chronic posts putting "trannies" in a negative light espicially black ones in transition, even as recently as yesterday....why the fuck don't you explain just what his point was....since you seem to be his self appointed spokesman?

You just love making shit up to support yourself, don't you? Well I guess you have to. No one else will. I am sure you learned how to do that from the GOP debates.

You asked a really stupid question, and I gave you an honest answer. How in the fuck does that make me a self appointed spokesmen for Freddie? I answered you directly to be sarcasticly truthfull.

Freddies video and subject in this thread actually does not hurt TS for a change. Maybe some of what we have said to him has finally sunk in. So shut the fuck up for once in your pathetic lonely basement life, and let's see what happens. That leaves one conclusion. Your only reason for posting is to stir up your usual hate. You just love to hate people and it just kills you every time they kick your fat ass.

So your poor bruised ego now has to get even with another of your macho big man loser responses. Go ahead and make everyone laugh at you...... again. We can wait for a few minutes. That's a good troll.

kilakali
12-13-2011, 07:09 AM
She went by the name of Lovelee.. This is nothing new she always flip flops. I think Freddies point is if she reverts back to a man she never was a TS to begin with...

msharrow
12-13-2011, 12:47 PM
She went by the name of Lovelee.. This is nothing new she always flip flops. I think Freddies point is if she reverts back to a man she never was a TS to begin with...
i agree. A TS is a woman in her mind and heart

EvonRose
12-13-2011, 01:20 PM
But the reality is about more than half of the girls you see are not really women either... Many women in the industry usually transition for the business aspect of it or the sexual gratification of them having sex with straight men... Its just not all of those women transition back to a Man, because they realize that the the change throughout years has become non reversible, and that's one cause for the transsexual suicide population next to depression...

GroobySteven
12-13-2011, 01:20 PM
I recall her on blacktgirls and she was decent looking.

Str8NoChaser - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfecm37j_Ao&feature=relmfu)

You are looking pretty good there Freddie.

Willie Escalade
12-13-2011, 03:58 PM
Damn...I KNEW he looked familiar!

TsJizelle
12-13-2011, 04:14 PM
oh and apparently I just found out that Danika Dreams has detransitioned.......
so bizarre seeing how she transitioned so many years ago, is a Shemale YUM veteran and wanted so badly to be a porn star...and now this...weird

Kevin Dong
12-13-2011, 04:43 PM
oh and apparently I just found out that Danika Dreams has detransitioned.......
so bizarre seeing how she transitioned so many years ago, is a Shemale YUM veteran and wanted so badly to be a porn star...and now this...weird

Danika indeed seems to have taken out her implants and shaved her head :(
Her fucking boyfriend is 18 years old and gay so he wanted her to turn back into a man because he's the one that gets the assfucking from that relationship. Danika always wanted a bf really bad as I recall from our time together. It is unfortunate she fell prey to some idiot that doesn't know his asshole from the floor. I think it's an impulsive decision and Danika will return to her woman self soon. fucking boyfriends!! They ruin everything!!!:fuckin:

KelticForce1349
12-13-2011, 05:39 PM
Danika indeed seems to have taken out her implants and shaved her head :(
Her fucking boyfriend is 18 years old and gay so he wanted her to turn back into a man because he's the one that gets the assfucking from that relationship. Danika always wanted a bf really bad as I recall from our time together. It is unfortunate she fell prey to some idiot that doesn't know his asshole from the floor. I think it's an impulsive decision and Danika will return to her woman self soon. fucking boyfriends!! They ruin everything!!!:fuckin:


Wow! I get annoyed by how few of the t-girls actually want a boyfriend...but the lovely Danika decided to be a man because having a boyfriend was that important?


Sad times...

Clone 0101
12-13-2011, 07:19 PM
Weird... I dont get it but I must say these people who do this must be damaged and hurting to do something like this. Some people lose family and friends and it is very hard for tgirls to find guys who are actually good for them and see them as an equal not just a sex object. I can understand needing to feel that love from the people you care for most but losing yourself for those people that is just plain sad. I am sure these people will eventually feel or see that it is just not worth it.

mealticket
12-13-2011, 07:33 PM
shows on danika's websitet that she is still touring and escorting http://www.shemalecanada.com/escort/danika/ ...so unless she is putting on a wig and some falsies..she is still living as a girl

Silcc69
12-13-2011, 08:30 PM
You just love making shit up to support yourself, don't you? Well I guess you have to. No one else will. I am sure you learned how to do that from the GOP debates.

You asked a really stupid question, and I gave you an honest answer. How in the fuck does that make me a self appointed spokesmen for Freddie? I answered you directly to be sarcasticly truthfull.

Freddies video and subject in this thread actually does not hurt TS for a change. Maybe some of what we have said to him has finally sunk in. So shut the fuck up for once in your pathetic lonely basement life, and let's see what happens. That leaves one conclusion. Your only reason for posting is to stir up your usual hate. You just love to hate people and it just kills you every time they kick your fat ass.

So your poor bruised ego now has to get even with another of your macho big man loser responses. Go ahead and make everyone laugh at you...... again. We can wait for a few minutes. That's a good troll.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good shit.

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 12:28 AM
Yeah I personally know a couple of TS here in Vegas that have personally told me that they just transitioned to make money and once they hit their goal in $$$$ they will retransitioned and go back to be a guy and go live with their families in other countries. Thats weird but it does happens a lot! And the thing is that some of them are very pretty and very passable, but they just have it like a fetish, a very big fetish for a few years until they get the cash they need for paying all their mortgages, cars, bills and have a decent amount of savings. Yes I m talking about $700,000.oo

FreddieGomez
12-14-2011, 01:07 AM
this thread wasn't meant to be negative so stop trying to say it is. I was just curious and confused as to why she would turn back into a man. I guess it's a more common phenomenon than i thought.

giovanni_hotel
12-14-2011, 01:36 AM
THis thread totally fucked my head!! I never knew Lovelee flipped. I mean she still has huge natural bewbies doesn't she? Even as a boy?
Lovelee and Danika Dreams were two of my fave girls alltime.

It's bizarre to me that someone would live as another gender to make coin.
You just never know who you're with I guess.
I'm totally depressed now.:(

WHYWHYWHY????

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 01:49 AM
Yeah I personally know a couple of TS here in Vegas that have personally told me that they just transitioned to make money and once they hit their goal in $$$$ they will retransitioned and go back to be a guy and go live with their families in other countries. Thats weird but it does happens a lot! And the thing is that some of them are very pretty and very passable, but they just have it like a fetish, a very big fetish for a few years until they get the cash they need for paying all their mortgages, cars, bills and have a decent amount of savings. Yes I m talking about $700,000.oo

Yes same here, The actual percent of a real true transexual is only about 28 percent, and 5 percent of those 28 are female ( sex change)

mealticket
12-14-2011, 01:51 AM
Yeah there are a lot more out there that go back then you would think..I know of a few personally that went back...there are many reasons, you just don't usually hear about it because most aren't public about going back, they just disappear...

TSMichelleAustin
12-14-2011, 01:54 AM
Well, u see this a lot with black gay men. They get tits and stuff for the money and attention. Seems as this person does. A real transgendered would never go back and forth.

giovanni_hotel
12-14-2011, 02:12 AM
Well, u see this a lot with black gay men. They get tits and stuff for the money and attention. Seems as this person does. A real transgendered would never go back and forth.


AAHHRRGGGHHH!!

Now I'm getting paranoid.:hide-1:

TSMichelleAustin
12-14-2011, 02:35 AM
AAHHRRGGGHHH!!

Now I'm getting paranoid.:hide-1:

Yes I have a few friends who did it to enhance their drag career and escorting but dont want to be a woman. They sometimes live as men with tits when not escorting or doing shows.

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 03:00 AM
Yes same here, The actual percent of a real true transexual is only about 28 percent, and 5 percent of those 28 are females ( sex change)

So your a real female because your going to have a carved out vagina? Fuck off!

youngblood61
12-14-2011, 03:08 AM
Sorry to hear about Danika. She was a big favorite of mine and alot of other people. If she is happier as a man more power to her. It's her life!

nonnonnon
12-14-2011, 03:10 AM
I don't know the statistics but it makes you think

dakota87
12-14-2011, 03:11 AM
How do you even go back? I thought once you grew breasts you had them for life.

TsJizelle
12-14-2011, 03:55 AM
shows on danika's websitet that she is still touring and escorting http://www.shemalecanada.com/escort/danika/ ...so unless she is putting on a wig and some falsies..she is still living as a girl

apparently she has cut off all her hair and stopped taking her hormones. either way it doesnt matter. it does show current travel dates, who knows...maybe they broke up? lol she has "retired" from escorting more times than I can count for the sake of boyfriends before.


So your a real female because your going to have a carved out vagina? Fuck off!

AMEN sister!!! finally someone else isn't a fan

TsJizelle
12-14-2011, 03:56 AM
How do you even go back? I thought once you grew breasts you had them for life.

men have their gyno removed all the time which ultimately is all "hormone tits" are... you can easily remove implants and then get that same surgery. hello I can have a penis one day and a vagina the next..of course they can get rid of my tits if I want to

Solitary Brother
12-14-2011, 04:04 AM
I recall her on blacktgirls and she was decent looking.

Str8NoChaser - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfecm37j_Ao&feature=relmfu)

The personality is the same.
He/She is cunt....there is no changing that.
He/She will live as a gay male but the persona is still very feminine.

mealticket
12-14-2011, 04:49 AM
How do you even go back? I thought once you grew breasts you had them for life.

They have surgery to have their breasts removed...once they stop the hormones, doesn't take long for testosterone to kick back in and make them look more male...even the few that I knew that were really pretty now look just like a regular dude...

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:05 AM
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AMEN sister!!! finally someone else isn't a fan

Thank u! i just cannot stand it. It really pisses me off..In a perfect world we all would have been born with our anatomy in correct correlation to our minds and who we are. Just because she's willing to undergo an extremely painful and invasive, not to mention expensive surgery with a high risk of complications/loss of sensation, she's more female then us? I say "ho sit down" to that....

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:09 AM
So your a real female because your going to have a carved out vagina? Fuck off!

I never said real female, But in terms of what we are going to be yes female...

Fuck off? congrats either your immature or you need to check your hormones...

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:14 AM
I never said real female, But in terms of what we are going to be yes female...

Fuck off? congrats either your immature or you need to check your hormones...

Or i'm just pissed off at ignorant holier then thou birds like you. O and wheres this music you claim you make? You stopped talking to me through private messages as soon as I asked to hear something. Here's one of mine http://snd.sc/jlgzbS

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:19 AM
Thank u! i just cannot stand it. It really pisses me off..In a perfect world we all would have been born with our anatomy in correct correlation to our minds and who we are. Just because she's willing to undergo an extremely painful and invasive, not to mention expensive surgery with a high risk of complications/loss of sensation, she's more female then us? I say "ho sit down" to that....

When have I ever compared you to me? you are insecure, does calling me ho make you less of a ho? If your going to rant about my decision for getting ''fake vagina'' then stop taking your fake hormones, that grew your fake tits, and get rid of your fake hair... Then we can talk about realness... You taking hormones in itself has its own risk. Blood clots, liver, kidney, shot lifespan, thrombosis, And you want me to name the complications with androgen blockers? Sweetie reality check!

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:25 AM
When have I ever compared you to me? you are insecure, does calling me ho make you less of a ho? If your going to rant about my decision for getting ''fake vagina'' then stop taking your fake hormones, that grew your fake tits, and get rid of your fake hair... Then we can talk about realness... You taking hormones in itself has its own risk. Blood clots, liver, kidney, shot lifespan, thrombosis, And you want me to name the complications with androgen blockers? Sweetie reality check!

Um duh? u really r one stupid elitist bitch. I didnt say you were weird or wrong for wanting a vagina. I said you werent any more woman than me or any other girl on here. You're the one bringing up "realness" by implying that you are more of a "real" woman than others because you desire srs.

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 05:25 AM
Yes same here, The actual percent of a real true transexual is only about 28 percent, and 5 percent of those 28 are females ( sex change)

Where is "there" cause you have like 5 cities in your profile. NY? Europe?

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:29 AM
Um duh? u really r one stupid elitist bitch. I didnt say you were weird or wrong for wanting a vagina. I said you werent any more woman than me or any other girl on here. You're the one bringing up "realness" by implying that you are more of a "real" woman than others because you desire srs.

I never said real woman, your the stupid one here that cannot even quote someone on an argument... I never claim realness but you seem to discuss about it being a carved out fake vagina so maybe you need to elaborate...

lisaparadise
12-14-2011, 05:29 AM
Weird... I dont get it but I must say these people who do this must be damaged and hurting to do something like this. Some people lose family and friends and it is very hard for tgirls to find guys who are actually good for them and see them as an equal not just a sex object. I can understand needing to feel that love from the people you care for most but losing yourself for those people that is just plain sad. I am sure these people will eventually feel or see that it is just not worth it.I dont get it im 48 and have never not had a boyfriend when i transitioned so for me to believe other tgirls have trouble i dont get it.and danika what in the hell would any tgirl wanna gay guy for a boyfriend unless danika like others transitioned for the easy score.

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:30 AM
When have I ever compared you to me? you are insecure, does calling me ho make you less of a ho? If your going to rant about my decision for getting ''fake vagina'' then stop taking your fake hormones, that grew your fake tits, and get rid of your fake hair... Then we can talk about realness... You taking hormones in itself has its own risk. Blood clots, liver, kidney, shot lifespan, thrombosis, And you want me to name the complications with androgen blockers? Sweetie reality check!

Ur a bigot against ur own community and you totally ignore the core of what I'm saying and instead focus on petty details. Your opinions are offensive.

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:30 AM
Or i'm just pissed off at ignorant holier then thou birds like you. O and wheres this music you claim you make? You stopped talking to me through private messages as soon as I asked to hear something. Here's one of mine http://snd.sc/jlgzbS

Your music is that you singing?

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:30 AM
Your music is that you singing?

yes..

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:31 AM
Ur a bigot against ur own community and you totally ignore the core of what I'm saying and instead focus on petty details. Your opinions are offensive.

Well too bad... I didn't say anything offensive you added your own quote to it to turn it into that... I am not a bigot against my community I support it you just cant respect ones choice and that's your problem...

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:32 AM
yes..

I thought you were a soprano? you sound more like male tenor...

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:33 AM
I never said real woman, your the stupid one here that cannot even quote someone on an argument... I never claim realness but you seem to discuss about it being a carved out fake vagina so maybe you need to elaborate...

I never said it was a "fake vagina" not once. BUt you did post a statistic about only 25 % of trans ppl being True transsexuals and then you said only 5% of those were female (sex change). How is that not implying that your more of a "Real woman" then those that dont want srs? r u kidding me?

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:34 AM
I thought you were a soprano? you sound more like male tenor...

It varies depending on the songs i sing. Its always in a male vocal range though. Some songs i sound more feather soprano.

lisaparadise
12-14-2011, 05:36 AM
I thought you were a soprano? you sound more like male tenor...that was uncalled for evon,grow the fuck up

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:37 AM
I never said it was a "fake vagina" not once. BUt you did post a statistic about only 25 % of trans ppl being True transsexuals and then you said only 5% of those were female (sex change). How is that not implying that your more of a "Real woman" then those that dont want srs? r u kidding me?


But that doesn't mean anything, I was talking in regards to the flip floppers how 28 percent of ts community actually stick to the gender roles, and how 5 percent get the srs i mentioned female as srs and the non srs together i didn't single anyone out... Its the flip floppers i don't consider...

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:38 AM
that was uncalled for evon,grow the fuck up

Females can have male tenor range, like tina turner, or cher... what was wrong with that?

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:39 AM
I thought you were a soprano? you sound more like male tenor...

Atleast i can sing :)

lisaparadise
12-14-2011, 05:41 AM
Females can have male tenor range, like tina turner, or cher... what was wrong with that?your better then that kiddo,play nice the kids got talent be proud of her.

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:41 AM
But that doesn't mean anything, I was talking in regards to the flip floppers how 28 percent of ts community actually stick to the gender roles, and how 5 percent get the srs i mentioned female as srs and the non srs together i didn't single anyone out... Its the flip floppers i don't consider...

Thats not true. we've had this same argument in another thread before and you said that trans women who want srs are real women ie females and trans woman that didnt were not. You even went as far as to lump us together with crossdressers and the like (men)

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:42 AM
your better then that kiddo,play nice the kids got talent be proud of her.

thnx! :)

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:47 AM
Thats not true. we've had this same argument in another thread before and you said that trans women who want srs are real women ie females and trans woman that didnt were not. You even went as far as to lump us together with crossdressers and the like (men)

Nooooo never said that I pertained to what the human sexuality science had taught, i don't necessarily believe it...

mealticket
12-14-2011, 05:50 AM
Ryder, you actually are a good singer...do you have a band?? new avatar is very nice to

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:52 AM
Nooooo never said that I pertained to what the human sexuality science had taught, i don't necessarily believe it...

lies lies lies... u argued with me .. we went back and forth for awhile over it.. I'm done arguing with you about this though. Your a mean spirited elitist bitch and I dont like you at all. You're offensive, contradictory, and equivocating ( the worst combination).

AmyDaly
12-14-2011, 05:53 AM
75% of statistics are pulled out of someones ass. Evon is just making this shit up. There have been no scientific studies done on this topic. If there have, post up the journal article and prove me wrong.

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 05:53 AM
Or i'm just pissed off at ignorant holier then thou birds like you. O and wheres this music you claim you make? You stopped talking to me through private messages as soon as I asked to hear something. Here's one of mine http://snd.sc/jlgzbS

wait a few i will download a scratch vocal... Its me singing a cover if you want the proof that bad...

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:53 AM
Ryder, you actually are a good singer...do you have a band?? new avatar is very nice to

Awww thnx! I used to have a band called "XOXO" but I've long since gone solo. I'm working on releasing an EP in the coming months. :).

mealticket
12-14-2011, 05:55 AM
and there are transsexuals that are post op that have gone back to being men...it happens...the final surgery does not make the woman...its all between the ears...

Dino Velvet
12-14-2011, 05:57 AM
Awww thnx! I used to have a band called "XOXO" but I've long since gone solo. I'm working on releasing an EP in the coming months. :).

I've heard you sing. You definitely have talent. You look great too.

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 05:59 AM
and there are transsexuals that are post op that have gone back to being men...it happens...the final surgery does not make the woman...its all between the ears...

cosign :)

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 06:09 AM
Here is a scratch before sound tuning and editing, Quality is not so great but the company has the final version.


http://www.4shared.com/audio/Er7_9Pvq/Memo.html?

mealticket
12-14-2011, 06:11 AM
evon also very nice...

Yvonne183
12-14-2011, 06:13 AM
Or i'm just pissed off at ignorant holier then thou birds like you. O and wheres this music you claim you make? You stopped talking to me through private messages as soon as I asked to hear something. Here's one of mine http://snd.sc/jlgzbS

Ryder,,,That song was quite good,,, most excellent.

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 06:15 AM
Here is a scratch before sound tuning and editing, Quality is not so great but the company has the final version.


http://www.4shared.com/audio/Er7_9Pvq/Memo.html?

And I have live video to back that up if your not satisfied....

Fyi the reason we stopped talking is because we were not on the same musical path, Its not that I was ditching or lying about my singing, I am just not comfortable sharing my music until i feel it is right... Everything I had told you was true as you see i can hold a tune, but you chose to be so mean about it now... And here is your proof... Happy?

Dino Velvet
12-14-2011, 06:20 AM
Ryder,,,That song was quite good,,, most excellent.

I'm more of a Metalhead so that's not my style but I do recognize talent. Follow your dreams, Ryder, and never, ever let someone tell you you can't do something or be who you want to be. Good luck on your EP! :cheers:

Yvonne183
12-14-2011, 06:26 AM
I'm more of a Metalhead so that's not my style but I do recognize talent. Follow your dreams, Ryder, and never, ever let someone tell you you can't do something or be who you want to be. Good luck on your EP! :cheers:

Ya metalhead freak, ya

I have been to a fair share of dance clubs and Ryder's song would fit right in the mix. Yes, I was a disco Guidette at one time.

Dino Velvet
12-14-2011, 06:32 AM
Ya metalhead freak, ya

I have been to a fair share of dance clubs and Ryder's song would fit right in the mix. Yes, I was a disco Guidette at one time.

I might not be a good judge of this but it sounds as good as any other Top 40 I've heard. She's got as much right to a record deal as anyone. She's a better singer than I am a guitar player.

rydermorrison
12-14-2011, 06:41 AM
thnx ya'll!! xo:)

pigsnizzle
12-14-2011, 06:45 AM
But the reality is about more than half of the girls you see are not really women either... Many women in the industry usually transition for the business aspect of it or the sexual gratification of them having sex with straight men... Its just not all of those women transition back to a Man, because they realize that the the change throughout years has become non reversible, and that's one cause for the transsexual suicide population next to depression...
Really? Wow, I thought that most of the western T-girls (non-Asian or Thai) were doing transistion because the really feel like women, but only a few like Daniell Fox, are actually willing to get SRS.

AmyDaly
12-14-2011, 06:49 AM
Really? Wow, I thought that most of the western T-girls (non-Asian or Thai) were doing transistion because the really feel like women, but only a few like Daniell Fox, are actually willing to get SRS.

SRS Is around $20,000. Not everyone can afford it. It doesn't mean we don't want to do it.

TSMichelleAustin
12-14-2011, 07:02 AM
First off SRS does not make u a woman... I know many girls who have had srs and regret it. I am happy with my life and feel like a woman every day! I might have a dick but no pussy makes me less of a woman than someone who goes with surgery. So I dont get those stats either

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 07:39 AM
75% of statistics are pulled out of someones ass. Evon is just making this shit up. There have been no scientific studies done on this topic. If there have, post up the journal article and prove me wrong.


I can show many list of statistic, and I agree some are pulled out, And never claimed it was right, Any scientific statistics are hypothesis... Like for example they did a study of 100 transsexuals and 66 percent of those transsexuals or transgender did not qualify for srs, that is more than half, and the the other population who did qualify percentage of them were adamant about getting it, and and only a few actually did out of that hundred, so they hypothesized it in a bigger scale, there are many articles to dig up, But i'm not saying its right that's why I quote them because I am not 100 sure myself...

But you are wrong in a sense, because they have made studies lots and lots of it since the 1920's... We are medical science and we have been studied medically since the 1920's maybe even earlier... It's naive to say they don't make these studies, what do you think your doctor visits are for? you do know that worldwide they share these details to the medical boards.... from hormone replacement, to psychology, to srs, to health...

ARMANIXXX
12-14-2011, 07:47 AM
What's up yall.

I remember this person.
She used to live in the BAY AREA for years....Oakland.

I know she moved to Atlanta.

Never did get to meet her while she was here though. That might have been for the best. lol

AmyDaly
12-14-2011, 07:53 AM
I can show many list of statistic, and I agree some are pulled out, And never claimed it was right, Any scientific statistics are hypothesis... Like for example they did a study of 100 transsexuals and 66 percent of those transsexuals or transgender did not qualify for srs, that is more than half, and the the other population who did qualify percentage of them were adamant about getting it, and and only a few actually did out of that hundred, so they hypothesized it in a bigger scale, there are many articles to dig up, But i'm not saying its right that's why I quote them because I am not 100 sure myself...

But you are wrong in a sense, because they have made studies lots and lots of it since the 1920's... We are medical science and we have been studied medically since the 1920's maybe even earlier... It's naive to say they don't make these studies, what do you think your doctor visits are for? you do know that worldwide they share these details to the medical boards.... from hormone replacement, to psychology, to srs, to health...

Ok, lets see those studies then from a journal. Until then, any "facts" you give are just your own opinion on the matter. Scientific studies are not just hypothesis. Do you know what is involved in publishing an article in a journal?

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 07:53 AM
What's up yall.

I remember this person.
She used to live in the BAY AREA for years....Oakland.

I know she moved to Atlanta.

Never did get to meet her while she was here though. That might have been for the best. lol

No I never lived in Oakland, But your right I moved to Atlanta...

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 07:59 AM
So much BS here that now I am confused, SRS, not SRS, FEMALE, Not FEMALE, Male, Retransitions, Transitions, Penis or no Penis, Statistics or not. Real Women and fake ones, even Tony Montana is mentioned here, sorry the Sopranos. Come on people stop fighting over some bs, lets make love all together in a peaceful world. :)

mealticket
12-14-2011, 08:04 AM
evon i might be wrong but I think the poster was referring to the person in this thread who detransitioned...

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 08:07 AM
Ok, lets see those studies then from a journal. Until then, any "facts" you give are just your own opinion on the matter. Scientific studies are not just hypothesis. Do you know what is involved in publishing an article in a journal?

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/sex-reassignment-surgery

Meyer and Reter (11) studied 100 patients who applied for sex reassignment surgery at the Johns Hopkins Gender Identity Clinic. Of these, 34 underwent surgery (24 at Johns Hopkins and 10 elsewhere) and 66 failed to qualify for surgery.

We as women are so emotional we lose track of the topic, I never pertained pre op transsexuals to be men, the genitalia does not define your perception of your gender, this I stand by... what you do with your genitalia is ones decision to either further social norms, and or lifestyle, or living... I have never said pre ops were less of women, I have quoted medical quotes but did not say it, i am just stating a study, that I found interesting but that does not prove definitive.... I am a woman of facts, and thorough and i like to investigate, that's me as a person... I can be mathematical but if you have issues then i encourage you to do your research and lets compare studies, with no hard feelings... lets collaborate stop calling each other hoes and bitches, we are ladies, not truckers...

yodajazz
12-14-2011, 08:43 AM
So much BS here that now I am confused, SRS, not SRS, FEMALE, Not FEMALE, Male, Retransitions, Transitions, Penis or no Penis, Statistics or not. Real Women and fake ones, even Tony Montana is mentioned here, sorry the Sopranos. Come on people stop fighting over some bs, lets make love all together in a peaceful world. :)

This thread is interesting. Thanks Freddy. This is all about accepting a person for who they are now, and acknowledging they may change, as well as you.

You have the option of loving part of a person, or the whole person. I really like the woman part, of the subject in the original post. As for the rest of him, I'll withhold judgment. Look at tis vid of 'Kenya" dancing at a club.
Kenya Black-Barbie Dupree - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW46X23pr70)

AmyDaly
12-14-2011, 08:56 AM
And in that very article, it says reliable statistics on this are too difficult to obtain. I rest my case. All your statistics are made up.

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 09:13 AM
And in that very article, it says reliable statistics on this are too difficult to obtain. I rest my case. All your statistics are made up.

Honey, whatever!!! Read and do your own research, stop being lazy and conduct your own research!!! Google the name I have given you and read his articles... It is better to be equipped with knowledge than to go at it blind... Taking one sentence of a paragraph does not prove your point.

Should I provide more names so you can look up the books on ebay, amazon, libraries, Barnes and Nobles... there are many sources besides the internet that I have read, one source is the human sexuality booklet, my mom studied it when she was becoming a nurse... You can obtain that with a credit card and google search...

ARMANIXXX
12-14-2011, 09:16 AM
No I never lived in Oakland, But your right I moved to Atlanta...

I know who you are. You've been off and on in the Bay Area too.


Obviously though, your not the Lovelee chick Freddie's talking about.


Still though....good to meet you too. =)

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 09:20 AM
I know who you are.

Obviously though, your not the lovelee chick Freddie's talking about.


Still though....good to meet you too. =)

Oh sorry, it was a coincidence because I am from the bay area and i moved to Atlanta, sorry... My mistake baby..

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 10:01 AM
So much BS here that now I am confused, SRS, not SRS, FEMALE, Not FEMALE, Male, Retransitions, Transitions, Penis or no Penis, Statistics or not. Real Women and fake ones, even Tony Montana is mentioned here, sorry the Sopranos. Come on people stop fighting over some bs, lets make love all together in a peaceful world. :)

OMG I just realize who you were, were you that girl I cammed with one night? we were dancing and stripping... lol..

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 11:03 AM
on tinychat? long time ago? and we each took turns? LOL :)

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 11:04 AM
on tinychat? long time ago? and we each took turns? LOL :)

Yes ooooo that was hot...You have a really cute accent too...

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 11:05 AM
Yes ooooo that was hot...You have a really cute accent too...

:) yes it was. Then U desappeared. :wiggle: LOL you even remember my accent? LOL

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 11:08 AM
:) yes it was. Then U desappeared. :wiggle: LOL you even remember my accent? LOL


Lol... I tend to do that, just vanish... But who can forget your lovely accent, and your hair looks really good... I even told you the fire red combo makes it so exotic. I may have even sang on cam...

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 11:17 AM
Lol... I tend to do that, just vanish... But who can forget your lovely accent, and your hair looks really good... I even told you the fire red combo makes it so exotic. I may have even sang on cam...

Actually you did sang, and I love it! well everyone did! :) Plus of course I was trying to seduce you dancing "wink"
so where did you go? well I did the same for a few months, I just started coming back here recently.

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 11:24 AM
Actually you did sang, and I love it! well everyone did! :) Plus of course I was trying to seduce you dancing "wink"
so where did you go? well I did the same for a few months, I just started coming back here recently.

I moved to Atlanta, but have been traveling lately... Moving to Miami on summer, so im excited for that... Well your belly dancing did work and seduce not just me but a few people as well... lol... I took a short break from the site but i recently got back and look what I come back to... lol...

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 11:35 AM
I moved to Atlanta, but have been traveling lately... Moving to Miami on summer, so im excited for that... Well your belly dancing did work and seduce not just me but a few people as well... lol... I took a short break from the site but i recently got back and look what I come back to... lol...
LOL yeah thats why I took a break, plus was busy lately doing other things. LOL yes I was belly dancing, love it! Miami is nice, I used to live down there when I was a little girl, :) in Coral Gables and Miami Lakes. Cant wait to visit again to see how is everything back there. Maybe if I go and you still live there we can meet for a drink or go clubbing one day if you are free, you know how I LOVE teasing guys! LOL
Girl I saw some of your pics here and you are looking great, keep up the great work miss!

AmyDaly
12-14-2011, 11:40 AM
Honey, whatever!!! Read and do your own research, stop being lazy and conduct your own research!!! Google the name I have given you and read his articles... It is better to be equipped with knowledge than to go at it blind... Taking one sentence of a paragraph does not prove your point.

lol bla bla bla

Research says all gay guys are really transwomen and all lesbians are transmen...Don't believe me? Do your own research!! lol nice logic there. You are full of it and can't prove otherwise.

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 11:54 AM
LOL yeah thats why I took a break, plus was busy lately doing other things. LOL yes I was belly dancing, love it! Miami is nice, I used to live down there when I was a little girl, :) in Coral Gables and Miami Lakes. Cant wait to visit again to see how is everything back there. Maybe if I go and you still live there we can meet for a drink or go clubbing one day if you are free, you know how I LOVE teasing guys! LOL
Girl I saw some of your pics here and you are looking great, keep up the great work miss!

Oh wow cool! well visit me there and well hang out, would love to tear the city down... Thank you you are so positive and sweet... message me contact info so We can chit chat..

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 11:55 AM
lol bla bla bla

Research says all gay guys are really transwomen and all lesbians are transmen...Don't believe me? Do your own research!! lol nice logic there. You are full of it and can't prove otherwise.

Omg whatever, School is important...

It is scientifically proven that that is false... sorry to disappoint you...

I read articles and scientific studies about me for good reasons, I want to know about this situation I am a 21 year old girl and I feel is necessary for us women to make our researches about this subject. I would rather go by a proven experiment than your guess...

NatashaLover
12-14-2011, 11:59 AM
Oh wow cool! well visit me there and well hang out, would love to tear the city down... Thank you you are so positive and sweet... message me contact info so We can chit chat..

will send you my info on a private message, keep in touch ok? its always great to have intelligent and beautiful friends "wink" and of course if can make it there we can hang out for sure.

EvonRose
12-14-2011, 12:00 PM
will send you my info on a private message, keep in touch ok? its always great to have intelligent and beautiful friends "wink" and of course if can make it there we can hang out for sure.

Yes thank you!!! intelligent and beautiful friends are important inside and out...

natina
12-15-2011, 07:54 AM
if a TS detransitions does it not make all the men who the TS has been with feel GAY?

slingblade
02-17-2012, 08:03 AM
She went by the name of Lovelee.. This is nothing new she always flip flops. I think Freddies point is if she reverts back to a man she never was a TS to begin with...

wow lovelee changed back to a man? she was a sexy girl too.

slingblade
02-17-2012, 08:10 AM
So your a real female because your going to have a carved out vagina? Fuck off!

lmbao my girl ryder :cheers:

slingblade
02-17-2012, 08:24 AM
lies lies lies... u argued with me .. we went back and forth for awhile over it.. I'm done arguing with you about this though. Your a mean spirited elitist bitch and I dont like you at all. You're offensive, contradictory, and equivocating ( the worst combination).

MMMMMMM Ryder youre da bomb baby... :cheers:

Nowhere
02-17-2012, 08:41 AM
It's still far less than 1%, so no point in being bothered by rare exceptions. That's like 3 or 4 out of hundreds of thousands. You have a better chance of dying from taking asprin than a person who transitions does of detransitioning.

Ryz
02-17-2012, 08:47 AM
oh and apparently I just found out that Danika Dreams has detransitioned.......
so bizarre seeing how she transitioned so many years ago, is a Shemale YUM veteran and wanted so badly to be a porn star...and now this...weird

Rumors mah nigga

KittyPride
02-17-2012, 02:13 PM
Or i'm just pissed off at ignorant holier then thou birds like you. O

Evon is famous for that....

KittyPride
02-17-2012, 02:14 PM
if a TS detransitions does it not make all the men who the TS has been with feel GAY?

As long as they think of post op TS woman as mutilated men, I see no problem here.

KittyPride
02-17-2012, 02:16 PM
Omg whatever, School is important...

It is scientifically proven that that is false... sorry to disappoint you...

I read articles and scientific studies about me for good reasons, I want to know about this situation I am a 21 year old girl and I feel is necessary for us women to make our researches about this subject. I would rather go by a proven experiment than your guess...

What you should be doing is researching yourself instead of the science behind transwoman, because too little is known about it...

KittyPride
02-17-2012, 02:22 PM
Really? Wow, I thought that most of the western T-girls (non-Asian or Thai) were doing transistion because the really feel like women, but only a few like Daniell Fox, are actually willing to get SRS.

SRS does not change how you feel inside... and a pussy does not make you a woman... its what's in your mind/heart/soul what's important.

SRS wont make me happy, because it will not make me more of a woman then I already am...therefor I dont see it as a solution to my TS problem...

KittyPride
02-17-2012, 02:23 PM
and there are transsexuals that are post op that have gone back to being men...it happens...the final surgery does not make the woman...its all between the ears...

True I know two!

Nicole Dupre
02-17-2012, 04:50 PM
LOL Wow. This thread is loaded with heated arguments. And without moi involved? lol

I can't relate to lots of other trannys, but I wouldn't necessarily say their experiences are any less valid. (I mean, sure. This "KittyPride" lunatic popped in, but I think we all know what the deal with that dude is. lol) But I can honestly say that every girl on this thread, I respect at least to some degree. Amy's a full-blown goddamn lez-bean FFS, and I still dig her. lol I don't know if you all took the leap into this TS life we live with the same motivations I did. But does it matter beyond a certain point? I don't think it does. I think that recognizing the differences is healthy, and it's interesting. At least it helps me understand myself a little better anyway. I've done porn and escorted. But there are so many TSs doing porn and escorting who I can't relate to, thank god, because they're such crazy, shitty flakes. Of course, I could start making a list at this point, but the drama would probably never end. lol And those tired old faggots know who they are anyway. :twisted:

Anyway, there are lots of good case studies done on this stuff which indicate no one on HA could possibly ever be "primary" TSs simply because we're sex workers of some kind. lol But, then again, I was diagnosed originally as "primary" before I ever started HRT or did porn or escorted. So maybe I need to turn in my "Primary TS" membership card. ;-) lol

Ok. Now stop fighting, you crazy bitches. I'm the tranny troublemaker here, and none of you better forget it! lol

Silcc69
02-17-2012, 05:09 PM
LOL @Nicole. Srsly Freddie thread can take on a mind of there own at times.

mealticket
02-17-2012, 05:14 PM
lots of girls detransition, its not that uncommon, you just dont hear about it...i can think of three off the top of my head that I know personally

iago_delgado
02-17-2012, 08:09 PM
http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/sex-reassignment-surgery

Meyer and Reter (11) studied 100 patients who applied for sex reassignment surgery at the Johns Hopkins Gender Identity Clinic. Of these, 34 underwent surgery (24 at Johns Hopkins and 10 elsewhere) and 66 failed to qualify for surgery.

We as women are so emotional we lose track of the topic, I never pertained pre op transsexuals to be men, the genitalia does not define your perception of your gender, this I stand by... what you do with your genitalia is ones decision to either further social norms, and or lifestyle, or living... I have never said pre ops were less of women, I have quoted medical quotes but did not say it, i am just stating a study, that I found interesting but that does not prove definitive.... I am a woman of facts, and thorough and i like to investigate, that's me as a person... I can be mathematical but if you have issues then i encourage you to do your research and lets compare studies, with no hard feelings... lets collaborate stop calling each other hoes and bitches, we are ladies, not truckers...

I've jumped in mid-thread and I've no idea whatsoever how this post fits in.

BUT

The Johns Hopkins story on SRS is EXTREMELY interesting but very much a poisoned chalice. Any story based on it is a story based on individuals who had egos and agendas the size of skyscrapers.

Plus it was designed to reject people. It was a research programme designed to cherry-pick a very few people per year and reject the rest, whether they were TS or not.

I am surprised that they did 24 at JH - I thought they did much less than that before the next director, who was opposed to this, shut the unit down.

I am also surprised that they rejected only 66. They got coast-to-coast entire front page of all the newspapers in 1966 after a New York Times front page exclusive. I suspect they probably turned down hundreds at the very minimum.

Nicole Dupre
02-17-2012, 08:28 PM
I've jumped in mid-thread and I've no idea whatsoever how this post fits in.

BUT

The Johns Hopkins story on SRS is EXTREMELY interesting but very much a poisoned chalice. Any story based on it is a story based on individuals who had egos and agendas the size of skyscrapers.

Plus it was designed to reject people. It was a research programme designed to cherry-pick a very few people per year and reject the rest, whether they were TS or not.

I am surprised that they did 24 at JH - I thought they did much less than that before the next director, who was opposed to this, shut the unit down.

I am also surprised that they rejected only 66. They got coast-to-coast entire front page of all the newspapers in 1966 after a New York Times front page exclusive. I suspect they probably turned down hundreds at the very minimum.
I've heard from a few folks in this community, who are over 60, that until the mid 70's, they'd go so far as to commit us to institutions, and give us lobotomies and EST if we insisted they were "women trapped in men's bodies" and we also wanted to keep our cocks. And the first thing they did to determine how committed you were to your transsexuality was give you an orchiectomy. And as you said, that was if they were even going to help you at all. One of their shrinks had to give you a clean bill of mental health first. And if you were attracted to women or had any leanings towards sex work? lol No fucking WAY would they help you. You were automatically labeled as a "secondary transsexual".

buttslinger
02-17-2012, 08:33 PM
Maybe he got a real job.

Yvonne183
02-17-2012, 08:36 PM
I've heard from a few folks in this community, who are over 60, that until the mid 70's, they'd go so far as to commit us to institutions, and give us lobotomies and EST if we insisted they were "women trapped in men's bodies" and we also wanted to keep our cocks. And the first thing they did to determine how committed you were to your transsexuality was give you an orchiectomy. And as you said, that was if they were even going to help you at all. One of their shrinks had to give you a clean bill of mental health first. And if you were attracted to women or had any leanings towards sex work? lol No fucking WAY would they help you. You were automatically labeled as a "secondary transsexual".

I am old enough to have heard the stories from older tpeple being put away in institutions and other horrible stuff that the generation that came before me had to put up with.

I gotta tell ya Nicole,,, you might have a rough edge to you, but your posts are usually right on. I can tell by the way you write. Words you write can only come from someone that has been there, that has experienced life and not like some where info comes solely from books.

Nicole Dupre
02-17-2012, 09:00 PM
I am old enough to have heard the stories from older tpeple being put away in institutions and other horrible stuff that the generation that came before me had to put up with.

I gotta tell ya Nicole,,, you might have a rough edge to you, but your posts are usually right on. I can tell by the way you write. Words you write can only come from someone that has been there, that has experienced life and not like some where info comes solely from books.
I started telling my parents that I was a girl when I was old enough to speak. That was no cake walk. And I started selling sex on the WSH in my teens. I also went back to school and worked real jobs, and put up with harassment all along the way. So I've been to the rodeo. lol I guess that's why I don't see any need to sugar coat reality for people here. Too many of us have died, or wished they had died, thanks to what the world puts us through. And I guess that's why I have some contempt for the guys who suddenly decide they want to be women after they've fathered kids and wasted women's lives on fake marriages, and for the hetero CDs who decide they just want to be overnight transbian porn stars. Most of them have never had the world dump the gay label on them or had to figure out for themselves as kids that it wasn't as simple as being "gay". Plus, I'm kind of a bitch when people bullshit me, so the friction is guaranteed. lol

yodajazz
02-18-2012, 12:24 PM
I started telling my parents that I was a girl when I was old enough to speak. That was no cake walk. And I started selling sex on the WSH in my teens. I also went back to school and worked real jobs, and put up with harassment all along the way. So I've been to the rodeo. lol I guess that's why I don't see any need to sugar coat reality for people here. Too many of us have died, or wished they had died, thanks to what the world puts us through. And I guess that's why I have some contempt for the guys who suddenly decide they want to be women after they've fathered kids and wasted women's lives on fake marriages, and for the hetero CDs who decide they just want to be overnight transbian porn stars. Most of them have never had the world dump the gay label on them or had to figure out for themselves as kids that it wasn't as simple as being "gay". Plus, I'm kind of a bitch when people bullshit me, so the friction is guaranteed. lol

I do find myself agreeing with you on a lot of things lately. However ever I dispute the idea that somebody decides to transition 'suddenly' in middle age. Sure, there are all kinds of variations out there, but the middle aged person, would have more typically raised children to adulthood, and past that. A good parent will put their child's needs ahead of their own. And as for 'fake marriages', the male may have given his wife twenty good years. That's considered 'life', for some prison sentences. In that married life, both spouses benefitted, especially from the pooled finances, and if there are children, there may be a point, when the children help to support their mother. It's understandable that women, mostly see if from the wife's side. But there are two sides to the stories.

Nicole Dupre
02-18-2012, 02:08 PM
I do find myself agreeing with you on a lot of things lately. However ever I dispute the idea that somebody decides to transition 'suddenly' in middle age. Sure, there are all kinds of variations out there, but the middle aged person, would have more typically raised children to adulthood, and past that. A good parent will put their child's needs ahead of their own. And as for 'fake marriages', the male may have given his wife twenty good years. That's considered 'life', for some prison sentences. In that married life, both spouses benefitted, especially from the pooled finances, and if there are children, there may be a point, when the children help to support their mother. It's understandable that women, mostly see if from the wife's side. But there are two sides to the stories.
Well, that's exactly where I get a little nauseated and skeptical. I don't think it's right to get married and stay married, and play husband and dad, if you're actually dealing with GID. I doubt any woman is going to want to give birth to the child of some guy who deep down feels the need to be a woman. Why would a woman marry a man if they wanted another woman? Run the idea by her and see what she thinks. You owe her at least that.

And this is why I have issues with late-transitioner transbians in particular. I've met them and they're always extremely dysfunctional, self-centered, and lecherous weirdos. And it gives me reason to suspect that younger transbians may have similar issues. It's not that hard to prevent a pregnancy if you're not an eligible candidate for parenting. Suddenly your husband wants to look like shit in a dress and fuck other women? That's fucked up and wrong.The LGBT population would LOVE to get married, and yet these closet case breeders are recklessly pissing away their opportunity based on a lie.

KittyPride
02-18-2012, 05:04 PM
This "KittyPride" lunatic popped in, but I think we all know what the deal with that dude is. lol) l

You HAVE to disagree with me. Im telling you stuff that does not fit into your 100% woman world while you are lusting after men's ass with your "clit"...(to put it nicely).

A lot of tranny's have the mentality and mind of men...competitive....

Woman are competitive too... but NOT like this

iago_delgado
02-18-2012, 05:06 PM
I've heard from a few folks in this community, who are over 60, that until the mid 70's, they'd go so far as to commit us to institutions, and give us lobotomies and EST if we insisted they were "women trapped in men's bodies" and we also wanted to keep our cocks. And the first thing they did to determine how committed you were to your transsexuality was give you an orchiectomy. And as you said, that was if they were even going to help you at all. One of their shrinks had to give you a clean bill of mental health first. And if you were attracted to women or had any leanings towards sex work? lol No fucking WAY would they help you. You were automatically labeled as a "secondary transsexual".

From Wiki. "In 1967, John Money, a prominent sexologist at Johns Hopkins Hospital, recommended that David Reimer, a boy who had lost his penis during a botched circumcision, be sexually reassigned and raised as a girl. Despite being raised as a girl from the age of 18 months, Reimer was never happy as a girl, and when he learned of his sex reassignment, he immediately reverted to living as a male. Money never reported on the negative outcome of Reimer's case, but in 1997, Reimer went public with the story himself."

John Money was the lead in the SRS programme at Johns Hopkins and had some very strange ideas on alignment of brain and body. Which is why the JH SRS story is interesting but untrustworthy.

The same Wiki article goes on to show that because so many programmes were run with such polarised agendas, even now it is hard to prove whether those undergoing SRS actually show an improvement in mental health satisfaction, or actually get worse.

KittyPride
02-18-2012, 05:16 PM
From Wiki. "In 1967, John Money, a prominent sexologist at Johns Hopkins Hospital, recommended that David Reimer, a boy who had lost his penis during a botched circumcision, be sexually reassigned and raised as a girl. Despite being raised as a girl from the age of 18 months, Reimer was never happy as a girl, and when he learned of his sex reassignment, he immediately reverted to living as a male. Money never reported on the negative outcome of Reimer's case, but in 1997, Reimer went public with the story himself."

John Money was the lead in the SRS programme at Johns Hopkins and had some very strange ideas on alignment of brain and body. Which is why the JH SRS story is interesting but untrustworthy.

The same Wiki article goes on to show that because so many programmes were run with such polarised agendas, even now it is hard to prove whether those undergoing SRS actually show an improvement in mental health satisfaction, or actually get worse.


Of course anyone WILL get worse when SRS is forced on them... either by themselves or sociaty/health professionals.

My gender clinic back in the day, would celebrate the research John Money did, go figure. They are said to be one of the leading experts in the field but they have crappy endo's en therapists..

My gender therapist would say:
Anyone dating a pre op TS is gay... and a post op straight..

She also told me it was so a-typical that I did not want SRS that surely something else must be going on with me since I refused it... and almost nobody did.

Swaab who did the brain research gives a laughable conclusion by claiming he found the gay brain and the transsexual brain.
As opposed to heterosexual brains... doing this study after hormone administration which makes it unbelievable...and forgetting that a lot of men are actually bisexual... and a lot of straight men dress up and yerk off lol..(even to the point that just yerking off isn't enough)
I talked to a lot of secundary transsexuals and know that being a woman is more of a fetish for them...since the social role really does not suit them...and pre op and post op... they think like men... and continue to do so..

Gender scientist and therapists... they know so little about the TS reality....if I was a scientist... I would first really want to get to know us...

But most of them just want to know what they THINK they know about us...

Just like Tlovers... they also love to think what they think.... no matter what we feel or our reality is

Just a few years ago my gender clinic claimed that they are NOT MAKING HERMAFRODITES!!! lol
SRS or NO treatment...

What they DID do all those years without even questioning it... was destroying the life's of the woman and children... by changing their completely masculine straight husband and father into TS woman.... Men who were completely masculine in every way pre op and remain that way post op..

the diagnosis is not determined by femininity or your psyche but on if you dress up like a woman, and If you want tits and SRS... that is the diagnosis... nothing more.
Anyone can get it and fool a gendertherapist...

Its completely useless and absurd for ANY TS.. to validate themselves by their diagnosis... or medical history... lol

KittyPride
02-18-2012, 05:23 PM
And this is why I have issues with late-transitioner transbians in particular. I've met them and they're always extremely dysfunctional, self-centered, and lecherous weirdos.

DYSFUNCTIONAL????
In what way and how can you call someone dysfunctional who is married... has a carreer and children??? hmm??

they are dysfunctional as woman cause the gender role does not suit them... but that is something else...

Also a lot of those secondary lesbian tranny's nowadays start earlier too.

Nicole Dupre
02-18-2012, 05:40 PM
You HAVE to disagree with me. Im telling you stuff that does not fit into your 100% woman world while you are lusting after men's ass with your "clit"...(to put it nicely).

A lot of tranny's have the mentality and mind of men...competitive....

Woman are competitive too... but NOT like this
I don't "disagree" with you because you don't have a valid enough of an opinion to enter into the discussion, "phobun" or "Brigitta" or whatever you call yourself now.

KittyPride
02-18-2012, 05:44 PM
I don't "disagree" with you because you don't have a valid enough of an opinion to enter into the discussion, "phobun" or "Brigitta" or whatever you call yourself now.

That's only because you insist on not believing I exist! lol

But honey... I am 100% real, and even passable, on hormones... and have always felt trapped in my body and social situation..

it seems you really cant relate... even when you claim you do... you have the attitude and mentality of a raging queer and even your sexuality matches this :D

Silcc69
02-18-2012, 05:53 PM
That's only because you insist on not believing I exist! lol

But honey... I am 100% real, and even passable, on hormones... and have always felt trapped in my body and social situation..

it seems you really cant relate... even when you claim you do... you have the attitude of a raging queer and even your sexuality matches this :D

Proof or GTFO!

KittyPride
02-18-2012, 05:57 PM
Proof or GTFO!

Why should i serve losers like you?
Coz cmon lets face it...99% of the guys on this forum are losers...of the worst kind

Nicole Dupre
02-18-2012, 07:42 PM
They're not asking you for pics because they think you might be hot. They think you're full of crap, just like I do. Lol

And getting married under false pretenses is most certainly dysfunctional. You should have never done it. Your poor wife deserved better. Don't try to justify yourself, you pervert.

KittyPride
02-18-2012, 08:07 PM
They're not asking you for pics because they think you might be hot. They think you're full of crap, just like I do. Lol

And getting married under false pretenses is most certainly dysfunctional. You should have never done it. Your poor wife deserved better. Don't try to justify yourself, you pervert.

LOL
I can transform from a gay CD to a straight CD in your mind in a sec...
And I dont fucking care if they think Im hot coz I think they are not!

Why should I please anyone if they can never please me back...?

Mayrah
02-18-2012, 08:11 PM
Why should i serve losers like you?
Coz cmon lets face it...99% of the guys on this forum are losers...of the worst kind

Whats stopping you from logging out then.

KittyPride
02-18-2012, 08:23 PM
Whats stopping you from logging out then.

Not you, airhead

Mayrah
02-18-2012, 09:49 PM
Not you, airhead

What kind of shitty live must you have if you spend all your damn time arguing with "losers" who's views wont change in a 1000 years. You have your opinions and beliefs, so do the others on here. Dont like it here, just move the fuck on already, its already as depressing as it is. :rolleyes:

slingblade
02-18-2012, 10:22 PM
What kind of shitty live must you have if you spend all your damn time arguing with "losers" who's views wont change in a 1000 years. You have your opinions and beliefs, so do the others on here. Dont like it here, just move the fuck on already, its already as depressing as it is. :rolleyes:

i love it when you talk like this baby makes me wanna bend you over and :fuckin::fuckin:

Nicole Dupre
02-18-2012, 10:24 PM
LOL
I can transform from a gay CD to a straight CD in your mind in a sec...
And I dont fucking care if they think Im hot coz I think they are not!

Why should I please anyone if they can never please me back...?
Again, they don't want to see photos of someone who's admittedly clockable and obviously crazy. They just dared you because they knew you wouldn't, which proves you're lying.

And I don't give a damn what you are. But I do know you're no TS. We can all tell that you're just some loopy guy.

Now go take a nap on the RR tracks, phobun.

Yvonne183
02-19-2012, 04:18 AM
Whats stopping you from logging out then.

I never thought of that,,, just log out, it's that easy?. Will that work for me? I think I'll give it a try. lol

PS-You're still pretty M.

Silcc69
02-19-2012, 04:48 AM
Why should i serve losers like you?
Coz cmon lets face it...99% of the guys on this forum are losers...of the worst kind

Because how the fuck you gonna come here bragging about you're hot as hell but will not post pics!? Stop writing a check with ya mouth that ya ass can't cash.

jaxqt28
02-19-2012, 07:03 AM
Danika detransitioned? OMG she is one of my top 10 girls and soooooo beautiful. Her boyfriend needs slapped around a bit for getting her to do that :\

Nowhere
02-19-2012, 07:23 AM
Danika retransitioned? OMG she is one of my top 10 girls and soooooo beautiful. Her boyfriend needs slapped around a bit for getting her to do that :\

False rumor, the girl still had an ad up as of yesterday, all sites up, etc - not to mention someone on another board said they saw her like two weeks ago.

Now, I do respect personal decisions, but that would be tragic.

jaxqt28
02-19-2012, 07:36 AM
False rumor, the girl still had an ad up as of yesterday, all sites up, etc - not to mention someone on another board said they saw her like two weeks ago.

Now, I do respect personal decisions, but that would be tragic.
Ok good my heart stopped when I heard that lol.

Willie Escalade
02-19-2012, 02:08 PM
Danica did NOT retransition...saw her Saturday night looking as hot as ever...

KittyPride
02-19-2012, 05:10 PM
xxxx

KittyPride
02-19-2012, 05:12 PM
What kind of shitty live must you have if you spend all your damn time arguing with "losers" who's views wont change in a 1000 years. You have your opinions and beliefs, so do the others on here. Dont like it here, just move the fuck on already, its already as depressing as it is. :rolleyes:

Your shallow neutralility is what makes it really depressing here.

KittyPride
02-19-2012, 05:13 PM
Because how the fuck you gonna come here bragging about you're hot as hell but will not post pics!? Stop writing a check with ya mouth that ya ass can't cash.



..............................................

My ass does not cash anything... I cant be bought

KittyPride
02-19-2012, 05:15 PM
Again, they don't want to see photos of someone who's admittedly clockable and obviously crazy. They just dared you because they knew you wouldn't, which proves you're lying.

And I don't give a damn what you are. But I do know you're no TS. We can all tell that you're just some loopy guy.

Now go take a nap on the RR tracks, phobun.

Hope for your sake...that your judgement of me does not reflect what you think of yourself.

Nicole Dupre
02-19-2012, 07:21 PM
Hope for your sake...that your judgement of me does not reflect what you think of yourself.
Thanks, but don't hope anything for my sake, bro. Lol

giovanni_hotel
02-19-2012, 07:45 PM
Danica did NOT retransition...saw her Saturday night looking as hot as ever...

Whew!!

There is so much D-R-A-M-A in the T community. Half the shit people make up about other girls just to keep some bullshit going.....damn.:crazy

jessicamoore
02-19-2012, 07:50 PM
still nice looking
kinda looks like a sexy butch girl here and shes very pretty

Silcc69
02-19-2012, 07:51 PM
..............................................

My ass does not cash anything... I cant be bought

LOL I see that one flew right over ur head.

PantyBoy69
02-19-2012, 09:46 PM
now thats a big she/cock, i want some..

Nicole Dupre
02-19-2012, 10:04 PM
LOL I see that one flew right over ur head.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Lol

Clone 0101
03-20-2012, 10:25 PM
Obviously some shady pathetic excuse for a girl in Canada has far to much time on their hands... Gee wonder which girl it could be who started this rumor?

brickcitybrother
03-21-2012, 07:26 PM
Hey ... sometimes people take awhile to make up their minds.

DarylWashington
03-21-2012, 07:32 PM
90% of the shemales on blacktgirls.com are cross dressers, nothing new. :)

RallyCola
03-21-2012, 07:38 PM
this just in. amanda lepore has detransitioned and is growing a penis back through using androgel

tsparrow69
08-27-2014, 11:18 AM
She went by the name of Lovelee.. This is nothing new she always flip flops. I think Freddies point is if she reverts back to a man she never was a TS to begin with...

Wow! I am stunned again because I was stunned when I first saw Lovely - I thought she was amazingly hot and sexy and lovely too

francisfkudrow
08-27-2014, 06:31 PM
I wish there was a drama filter button that I could have clicked and only had to read the "meat and potatoes" of this thread without all the bickering. Would have taken 1/8th the time.

Tapatio
08-27-2014, 11:40 PM
I see a pattern in the sparrow's necromancy.

tsparrow69
08-28-2014, 01:48 AM
@ Tapatio Are you saying you are of the dead? I guess you are just making a blatant comment because using the word "pattern" shows you are not reading all my comments

Tapatio
08-28-2014, 02:18 AM
Did you just "at" me? This isn't twitter.


Blatant? Idk. Necromancy because of the age of the threads you are resurrecting, and pattern because that's what people do- they notice patterns.

No judgement there, I promise.

And dramatic irony now, too.

tsparrow69
08-28-2014, 03:46 AM
Did you just "at" me? This isn't twitter.


Blatant? Idk. Necromancy because of the age of the threads you are resurrecting, and pattern because that's what people do- they notice patterns.

No judgement there, I promise.

And dramatic irony now, too.

No drama just responding back as I would to anyone who calls me out on a board i.e., defending my perspective. No it isn't twitter, but you may be a twit - done