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TSPornFan
10-02-2011, 11:30 PM
Damn. For about the past month Transsexual porn has been boring as hell. Way too many damn gonzo scenes. Lack of passable girls in content. Some American sites not updating with hardcore content. Only a handful of scenes are worth watching.

RainMan
10-02-2011, 11:35 PM
What about ZZ? And why do you dislike gonzo so much?

Instrumental
10-02-2011, 11:37 PM
Perhaps you need to take a break from viewing porn.

TSPornFan
10-03-2011, 12:04 AM
What about ZZ? And why do you dislike gonzo so much?

I like roleplay porn. It's all about the fantasy to me.



Perhaps you need to take a break from viewing porn.

Well barely any hardcore content has been released lately. So I kinda forced to take a break unless I want to watch the same old scenes over and over again.

FreddieGomez
10-03-2011, 12:06 AM
partly because it's lacking fresh faces. it's the same boring chicks over and over again

justafreak
10-03-2011, 12:07 AM
thanks for the latest update on the porn front!

Mayrah
10-03-2011, 12:28 AM
partly because it's lacking fresh faces. it's the same boring chicks over and over again

Why dont you grab the wig and lipstick then?

SunshyneMonroe
10-03-2011, 12:32 AM
aww i tho i did ok :(

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 12:41 AM
Perhaps you need to take a break from viewing porn.

This.

Franklin, if it were possible, I'd say your porn adventures have rubbed a callus onto your amygdala.

If it doesn't make you happy, and you aren't forced, why do it?

Kimber and Sarina are very disappointed. (But Bailey Jay is laughing her perfect a$$ off!)

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 12:44 AM
aww i tho i did ok :(
Darling, with that smile how could you do anything less?

sharkmizzle
10-03-2011, 12:44 AM
Why is Bailey Jay laughing her ass off?

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 12:47 AM
Why is Bailey Jay laughing her ass off?

You didn't say "her perfect a$$."

raybbaby
10-03-2011, 01:03 AM
I blame myself. You can too. If I had remained in LA, or even in LV, I'd be cranking out scenes. And all these hot ass t-girl pornstars would be walking funny, yet unable to sit down.

buckjohnson
10-03-2011, 01:28 AM
I like AT videos. But porn overall is very boring and static.

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 01:43 AM
All the guys I've talked to about porn, including straight guys who don't care about shemale stuff, say they will never spend a penny on masturbation material anymore. So no money = no incentive. Blame the economy, pirating, and the miserable bastards who actually can afford it but who refuse to pay.

I seriously can't understand why any girl would put time or energy into this industry anymore. Can you? Do you blame them for not thinking it's worth it? I don't think the parties are destined for greatness either, but they're on the right track I think. But you need a real STRIP CLUB. But then again, first you need the "gay" taboo to disappear. So, in some respects, you can actually blame the confused chasers who remain in the closet. Yep. Add porn to the list of things those dick-thirsty cowards fuck up for everyone else.

The only viable things left now are our tits and cocks right in your face ie. strippers and escorts. When those two things are as accessible and demystified as GG and gay strippers and porn are, something will budge.

Just look at gambling. No one cares about a card game in some greedy slob's basement anymore because casinos are EVERYWHERE. If you want a nice place to indulge yourself into pissing away your money, it's already been monopolized by a few big players. Until then, this whole scene is not going to grow.

"How, when, and where", I can't say. But "why" things have hit a wall are pretty obvious imo.

But I'm just a snotty, cynical, opinionated tranny. If anyone shares my opinion, they're obviously my "sock puppet". So don't pay attention to me. I wouldn't date any of you, and I "hate everyone" anyway. Remember? lol

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 01:52 AM
All the guys I've talked to about porn, including straight guys who don't care about shemale stuff, say they will never spend a penny on masturbation material anymore. So no money = no incentive. Blame the economy, pirating, and the miserable bastards who actually can afford it but who refuse to pay.

I seriously can't understand why any girl would put time or energy into this industry anymore. Can you? Do you blame them for not thinking it's worth it? I don't think the parties are destined for greatness either, but they're on the right track I think. But you need a real STRIP CLUB. But then again, first you need the "gay" taboo to disappear. So, in some respects, you can actually blame the confused chasers who remain in the closet. Yep. Add porn to the list of things those dick-thirsty cowards fuck up for everyone else.

The only viable things left now are our tits and cocks right in your face ie. strippers and escorts. When those two things are as accessible and demystified as GG and gay strippers and porn are, something will budge.

Just look at gambling. No one cares about a card game in some greedy slob's basement anymore because casinos are EVERYWHERE. If you want a nice place to indulge yourself into pissing away your money, it's already been monopolized by a few big players. Until then, this whole scene is not going to grow.

"How, when, and where", I can't say. But "why" things have hit a wall are pretty obvious imo.

But I'm just a snotty, cynical, opinionated tranny. If anyone shares my opinion, they're obviously my "sock puppet". So don't pay attention to me. I wouldn't date any of you, and I "hate everyone" anyway. Remember? lol
That can probably stand to be reposted. From what I can tell (based on his various complaints) Franklin is at the least an actual consumer.

buckjohnson
10-03-2011, 02:02 AM
I never paid for porn over the years, for many reasons, some overlapping and continiung, some based on time and place, i.e. lack of access, too busy fucking and working , etc...

But porn has very little redeeming values and harms more relationships than helps, and seems to attract performers with clearly some mental and abuse issues. So that gives me very little incentive to buy porn

There is very little incentive for woman to participate in porn, esp porn where the main objective is having a dick in a her ass.

So with little incentives for both the consumer and the performer, no wonder porn, esp shemale porn, is boring.

Silcc69
10-03-2011, 02:31 AM
This is why shemale porn will continue to strive:

Come on Nicole you know you want sum of Tom Moore.
http://images2.backpage.com/imager/u/large/32504609/Rock_Wall_Corset.jpg

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 02:31 AM
That can probably stand to be reposted. From what I can tell (based on his various complaints) Franklin is at the least an actual consumer.
Well of course someone's buying porn. But not like they were pre-2008.

But just look at this forum. No one's raising the bar. It's getting lowered to the tastes of the dick-hungry fags on board. Dino brags he won't pay more than $100 for some dirty streetwalking transvestite, yet you have some of the most beautiful transsexuals in the world featured here. Something's wrong with that picture. You don't let a guy park his shitbox jalopy across the street from your Rolls dealership. I mean, if this place wants to celebrate beautiful transsexuals, why are scummy razor-stubble transvestites permitted in the mix? I dunno. I'm sure someone can explain it, but I don't think I'll ever wrap my brain around it. I don't think Heff or Guccione would have achieved what they did if right after the Playmate or pet of the Month, they featured a random article on scat from Screw Magazine. I think the "throw shit at the wall and see if any sticks" mentality is literally not appealing.

But I don't even like tranny porn anyway. I like straight porn, if any, and I want SRS relatively soon. I'm probably not the right person to give feedback here.

TSPornFan
10-03-2011, 02:31 AM
I never paid for porn over the years, for many reasons, some overlapping and continiung, some based on time and place, i.e. lack of access, too busy fucking and working , etc...

But porn has very little redeeming values and harms more relationships than helps, and seems to attract performers with clearly some mental and abuse issues. So that gives me very little incentive to buy porn

There is very little incentive for woman to participate in porn, esp porn where the main objective is having a dick in a her ass.

So with little incentives for both the consumer and the performer, no wonder porn, esp shemale porn, is boring.

You don't know shit about porn. Data has NOT proven porn is harmful for relationships. That is not true. Not all performers have mental issues and abuse problems. Some performers have college degrees.

Shut your damn mouth unless you have something TRUTHFUL to say.

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 02:46 AM
This is why shemale porn will continue to strive:

Come on Nicole you know you want sum of Tom Moore.
http://images2.backpage.com/imager/u/large/32504609/Rock_Wall_Corset.jpg
That's all this industry "can afford". He's the only person available in this price range! :) lol You don't understand that yet? lol

I was offered an opportunity to do a shoot right before I moved from FL, from a supposed "big name". And the shooter said that she was such a deadbeat, he wouldn't shoot until he had her cash in her hand. Imo that's really sad. I wrote her to ask her wtf happened and she never wrote me back. lol You don't know just how fucked up and shady some of these people are. lol

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 02:49 AM
Anyway, I'll let you guys get to the bottom of this issue. I'm not gonna stick around much longer at this rate, to see how this "story ends". My curiosity about how low people will stoop is just about satisfied. lol :D

doctor screw
10-03-2011, 03:27 AM
But I'm just a snotty, cynical, opinionated tranny. If anyone shares my opinion, they're obviously my "sock puppet". So don't pay attention to me. I wouldn't date any of you, and I "hate everyone" anyway. Remember? lol





:iagree:LOL

buckjohnson
10-03-2011, 03:32 AM
You don't know shit about porn. Data has NOT proven porn is harmful for relationships. That is not true. Not all performers have mental issues and abuse problems. Some performers have college degrees.

Shut your damn mouth unless you have something TRUTHFUL to say.

Franklin, I am not a untruthful cat.t I have personally witnessed the destruction that addiction to porn, coupons, drugs, 151 rum, sex, and gambling has caused. Sad but true.

And yes, for folks who take dicks up their ass for pay or pleasure, get DP'd, have unprotected sex with strangers, etc, really do we have to have a conversation about their mental state and ability to function normally.

surely you know about the suicide rates with porn performers. And the many demons these folks are chasing and running from. Porn is not conducive to a healthy mental or physical state. The pathologies often found with strippers, porn performers, punters, self-pleasurers etc... are at times self destructive and to put in in plain terms, scary.

Franklin, this is a serious subject to me because of my personal obesrvations and interventions. I would not have mendacity(word of the day) to lie .

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 03:38 AM
Well of course someone's buying porn. But not like they were pre-2008.

But just look at this forum. No one's raising the bar. It's getting lowered to the tastes of the dick-hungry fags on board. Dino brags he won't pay more than $100 for some dirty streetwalking transvestite, yet you have some of the most beautiful transsexuals in the world featured here. Something's wrong with that picture. You don't let a guy park his shitbox jalopy across the street from your Rolls dealership. I mean, if this place wants to celebrate beautiful transsexuals, why are scummy razor-stubble transvestites permitted in the mix? I dunno. I'm sure someone can explain it, but I don't think I'll ever wrap my brain around it. I don't think Heff or Guccione would have achieved what they did if right after the Playmate or pet of the Month, they featured a random article on scat from Screw Magazine. I think the "throw shit at the wall and see if any sticks" mentality is literally not appealing. .
Good points. I'm probably not the right person either- I only buy print- I don't watch TV (don't even have one) so movies are out. Couldn't buy or even steal clips on the internet if I wanted- I refuse to have a computer at home and BlackBerry phones are notoriously deficient when it comes to movies.

Maybe it's just old school but I prefer magazines.

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 03:42 AM
You don't know shit about porn. Data has NOT proven porn is harmful for relationships. That is not true. Not all performers have mental issues and abuse problems. Some performers have college degrees.

Shut your damn mouth unless you have something TRUTHFUL to say.
Goddammit, Franklin, either straighten that ball cap or take it off.

Kimber and Sarina are extremely disappointed, young man. (Bailey Jay is still laughing her perfect a$$ off. )

buckjohnson
10-03-2011, 03:45 AM
Frankly, the porn performers who seem the most together are the BBW's and the grannies. GG's and TG's seem to have the typical hormones overindulgence and plastic surgery indulgence issues. BBWs are not injection shit in there asses to make them bigger, for the obvious reasons, and not injecting shit into their boobs, again for the obvious reasons.

Pelheckitt
10-03-2011, 03:54 AM
Anyway, I'll let you guys get to the bottom of this issue. I'm not gonna stick around much longer at this rate, to see how this "story ends". My curiosity about how low people will stoop is just about satisfied. lol :D


Does this mean your leaving........AGAIN?

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 04:09 AM
Does this mean your leaving........AGAIN?
Ummmm, no... It just means you're a PWT faggot who reads more into what I say than most people. Why don't you ask one of those dick-in-the-ass homos on your precious Vicki Richter forum to explain plain English to you, you inbred banjo player?

Silcc69
10-03-2011, 04:24 AM
frankly, the porn performers who seem the most together are the bbw's and the grannies. Gg's and tg's seem to have the typical hormones overindulgence and plastic surgery indulgence issues. Bbws are not injection shit in there asses to make them bigger, for the obvious reasons, and not injecting shit into their boobs, again for the obvious reasons.


___dead!

FistFuk
10-03-2011, 04:26 AM
I'm not even going to read the rest of this thread.

Why respond to that fruit loop? He's been stalking forums for awhile now, nobody cares who is. It's probably a new ID of that Knightrider loser from years back, if I had to guess.

Just let him continue to make a fool of himself.

lol

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 04:43 AM
I'm not even going to read the rest of this thread.

Why respond to that fruit loop? He's been stalking forums for awhile now, nobody cares who is. It's probably a new ID of that Knightrider loser from years back, if I had to guess.

Just let him continue to make a fool of himself.

lol
Who? The Spicoli wannabe guy?

Pelheckitt
10-03-2011, 04:45 AM
Hmmmmmm im the stalker? That takes some balls for you to call anyone a stalker you wrote the book on being an annoying troll. A new ID nope, but how many have you had? Never mind you cant count that high. And as far as making a fool of ones self that seems to be your expertise Hondaretard. Remember dont respond!

FistFuk
10-03-2011, 05:03 AM
Who? The Spicoli wannabe guy?
It's him. He's the Energizer Bunny of forum dorks.

Lol

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 05:09 AM
It's him. He's the Energizer Bunny of forum dorks.

Lol
Well this is the perfect opportunity for you to get rid of a troll. Destroy him, please. He's always bugging me, thinking he's defending the honor of his BF, Crimson Raider.

FistFuk
10-03-2011, 05:15 AM
Well this is the perfect opportunity for you to get rid of a troll. Destroy him, please. He's always bugging me, thinking he's defending the honor of his BF, Crimson Raider.
We destroyed him years ago, he's just amusing now in the sense of a socially retarded ghost who runs around shouting for no reason.

I'm going out. Bobby Flay won Battle Short Rib tonight, so that calls for some beers.

;)

Pelheckitt
10-03-2011, 05:25 AM
Well neither one of you two obessive compulsives have the ability nor the capacity to inflict any type of damage to me much less destroy me. I will leave you alone to your madness and unlike either of you when I say im leaving for the evening it means just that. As always nice talking to you Nicole and Honda you can go chew broken glass.

TSLexiWade
10-03-2011, 05:38 AM
Damn. For about the past month Transsexual porn has been boring as hell. Way too many damn gonzo scenes. Lack of passable girls in content. Some American sites not updating with hardcore content. Only a handful of scenes are worth watching.

Where have YOU been?

RainMan
10-03-2011, 05:38 AM
Well this is the perfect opportunity for you to get rid of a troll. Destroy him, please. He's always bugging me, thinking he's defending the honor of his BF, Crimson Raider.

Lmao @ crimson raider

Silcc69
10-03-2011, 05:53 AM
Well this is the perfect opportunity for you to get rid of a troll. Destroy him, please. He's always bugging me, thinking he's defending the honor of his BF, Crimson Raider.

LOL I havent heard that name since 07.

buckjohnson
10-03-2011, 06:29 AM
Have I missed something?

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 06:40 AM
Where have YOU been?
Damn, Miss Wade- very nice!

Also- very nice legs- first thing that comes to mind every time I see your name.

TSLexiWade
10-03-2011, 08:39 AM
Damn, Miss Wade- very nice!

Also- very nice legs- first thing that comes to mind every time I see your name.

Awwww. thanks babe. XO

Paladin
10-03-2011, 10:53 AM
Ummmm, no... It just means you're a PWT faggot who reads more into what I say than most people. Why don't you ask one of those dick-in-the-ass homos on your precious Vicki Richter forum to explain plain English to you, you inbred banjo player?


HaHa - BTW what is a PWT???

Please clarify this:
I was offered an opportunity to do a shoot right before I moved from FL, from a supposed "big name". And the shooter said that she was such a deadbeat, he wouldn't shoot until he had her cash in her hand. Imo that's really sad. I wrote her to ask her wtf happened and she never wrote me back. lol You don't know just how fucked up and shady some of these people are. lol

Is the "big name" the same "such a deadbeat". The shooter, i take it is the photographer??

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 11:00 AM
Well neither one of you two obessive compulsives have the ability nor the capacity to inflict any type of damage to me much less destroy me. I will leave you alone to your madness and unlike either of you when I say im leaving for the evening it means just that. As always nice talking to you Nicole and Honda you can go chew broken glass.
Later, you scrawny country boy faggot. Go play with your guns, like a good small-dicked homo with an inferiority complex. And maybe do us a favor and blow off that clueless looking air-pocket you call your head. I've seen your MySpace profile pics, and you look like 90 lbs of hammered shit.

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 11:25 AM
HaHa - BTW what is a PWT???

Please clarify this:
I was offered an opportunity to do a shoot right before I moved from FL, from a supposed "big name". And the shooter said that she was such a deadbeat, he wouldn't shoot until he had her cash in her hand. Imo that's really sad. I wrote her to ask her wtf happened and she never wrote me back. lol You don't know just how fucked up and shady some of these people are. lol

Is the "big name" the same "such a deadbeat". The shooter, i take it is the photographer??
PWT = poor white trash

3 years ago I got PM on HungDevils saying that a site was launching and she wanted me to do a shoot, and that I should find some black male talent. So I agree, even though I am in the middle of countless other things, I make a commitment and stick to it. So I finally locate a gorgeous Haitian boy with a flawless body to do both photos and vids. I call the photographer to confirm we're still on, and he tells me she owes him thousands that she's burned him on before, and that he refuses to lift a finger until he has a check that cleared and became cash in his hands. Honestly, I don't blame him. He's a good guy, and I consider him to be as honorable as anyone I've met in "the biz". And he has a great track record. You people have been jerking off to his work for years. So anyway, I call her and she never returned my calls! lol Talk about irresponsible backsliders. lol

But you know what? I have to laugh at that. I mean, I'm pissed that she wasted my model's time, the shooter's time, and MY time. But I just have to laugh at how sad almost everyone in this industry turns out to be. People have their heads way up their asses. And truthfully, this happened with her because she's obviously a fuckup who's hurting for money. I never took it personally. She's not shrewd enough to be that mercenary. lol

Trust me. The scumbags from Chicago I dealt with are far worse. That's just psychotic scum in cahoots with a pathological liar, and the rest are just substance abuse train wrecks. I also don't take their brand of bullshit personally, but they all went out of their way to make it personal,. But again, once you see the reality, the lolz are priceless. lol I may be a bitch, but I'm always upfront unless I'm watching someone greedily grab rope to hang themselves. At which point, the sadist in me just makes some popcorn. lol

Iori
10-03-2011, 11:38 AM
Not sure if they were all released in Sept.
These are some I saw that I enjoyed.

Shemale Strokers - Candi Mcbride and Christian

Transsexual Prostitutes 67
*Scene1 - Aly Sinclair & Kimberly Kills
*Scene4 - Kimberly Kills

Transsexual Babysitters 17
*Scene4 - Celeste
HM
*Scene1 - Aly Sinclair
*Scene3 - TS Foxxy

Shemale Club - Tiffany Starr and Tom

Shemale Club - Alisha and Ricky

BigDF
10-03-2011, 12:00 PM
Rather than constantly bitching about it, Franklin, why don't you try writing the kind of story you'd like to see made into a porn movie?

partlycloudy
10-03-2011, 12:07 PM
franklin is a virgin

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 12:48 PM
franklin is a virgin

I miss your perfectly timed images which would have displayed what you meant, better than words. Come back!

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 01:03 PM
Franklin obviously is far too involved in watching TS porn and as a measurement of what fans wants or what is going on from a viewer/fans point of view he's at one extreme but nevertheless is a good yardstick to guage what others may be feeling but not stating.

The amount of scenes being shot by US companies has contracted substantially in the last few months, with some sites sharing more content on the same networks (or across solo girls sites) and with higher end productions certainly appearing to suffer. If the budgets and revenues were there for more content to be produced then undoubtably it would be happenning, so whether this is due to piracy, economy or bad business planning, that's a different topic.

Franklin doesn't like what he calls "gonzo" scenes, which are cheaper to produce and appeal to a lot of people, so companies would err towards them. He also prefers his porn to be American which is more expensive then other imported content and he only likes the top, big-titted "shemale pornstar" type models of which there is limited supply and often over-exposed. There is only so much available revenue of people wanting to spend on this type of material. Other people want the more gonzo approach, or non-Americans, or brand new models, or models earlier in their transition. It's impossible to keep everyone happy all the time and with less total revenue out there, there will be less productions in all of these areas.
Even some of the sites which are the Granddaddys (or Grandmammys) of the industry seem to have cut back on their productions (or more expensive productions) recently.
This may just be a trend because of financial restraints going on right now or it may be an indiction of where the overall business is going and the glut of material that's been available over the last few years may become known as "The Golden Age of Shemale Porn".

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 01:06 PM
Thank fuck for the 1000s of TUBE sites out there.

I can get ALL the porn I need from them.

Hell, they even have search menus to help you find the girl you are looking for.

Check out "a-she-male-tube"...... enter Joanne Jet, Kimber or kelly shore and they are all there... for FREE!!

Who needs paysites or paid cam sites now? Not me!

Yeah but you are a cunt who needs to be banned from here, not everyone is such a cunt. Keep checking out those sites, don't pay for any material. The lack of new productions is down to cunts like you. So what new content are you going to be seeing of those models in 12 months? What new models are going to go into an industry which can't afford to produce new scenes.

They are not for free. They are stolen.

buckjohnson
10-03-2011, 01:08 PM
Lets hope Oct. will be better.

buckjohnson
10-03-2011, 01:09 PM
Yeah but you are a cunt who needs to be banned from here, not everyone is such a cunt. Keep checking out those sites, don't pay for any material. The lack of new productions is down to cunts like you. So what new content are you going to be seeing of those models in 12 months? What new models are going to go into an industry which can't afford to produce new scenes.

They are not for free. They are stolen.
So true.

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 01:10 PM
I think Franklin is actually a minor. Either that, or I'm guessing that he's barely an adult and lives with his parents. lol I've said that before, and he mysteriously disappeared for a few days. lol If anyone is guilty of caring too much about a fleeting masturbatory experience, it's Franklin. He seems to mean well, but the road to hell is paved by hairy palms and crossed eyeballs. lol

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 01:23 PM
So true.
You just admitted that you won't pay for porn either, for "moral" reasons. GTFO of here. *smdh

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 01:30 PM
cost is a big hurdle indeed when shooting high quality hardcore scenes ...for me to shoot a hardcore scene exlclusively for me its like £300-350 pounds for a female/ts model, then photography fee, maybe location fee if i need to shoot elsewhere from my own location..

Take in the editing time, hosting fee, billing provider cut etc ..you can see why gonzo/pov is so populer for models/producers to shoot.. i would love to shoot full on scenes with 2 cameras, exquisite locations but its just not viable the ROI isnt there for a website vehicle ..... compared to what i can make just simply sitting on my webcam in my bedroom for half a day ... when you consider you can make £1000+ in a week of webcamming...it kind of shames what you make shooting porn as a model as this is from the comfort of your own home .. no travelling etc.

You can see why so many girls are dropping out of porn, not really bothering with it as a short career path etc.. its just easier and more cost effective to escort/webcam and sell your own clips/amateur bits and bobs on sites like clips4sale, clips.com etc ...but as the majority of models are escorts and use porn scenes just to gain more promo for their personal services ...

As steven says the golden age of shemale porn is gone .. I think the industry needs to change and something has to change with all the filesharing sites/tubes etc ...

but as to porn being boring its subjective as everyperson is different to what floats there boat ...

TSPornFan
10-03-2011, 01:37 PM
Franklin obviously is far too involved in watching TS porn and as a measurement of what fans wants or what is going on from a viewer/fans point of view he's at one extreme but nevertheless is a good yardstick to guage what others may be feeling but not stating.

The amount of scenes being shot by US companies has contracted substantially in the last few months, with some sites sharing more content on the same networks (or across solo girls sites) and with higher end productions certainly appearing to suffer. If the budgets and revenues were there for more content to be produced then undoubtably it would be happenning, so whether this is due to piracy, economy or bad business planning, that's a different topic.

Franklin doesn't like what he calls "gonzo" scenes, which are cheaper to produce and appeal to a lot of people, so companies would err towards them. He also prefers his porn to be American which is more expensive then other imported content and he only likes the top, big-titted "shemale pornstar" type models of which there is limited supply and often over-exposed. There is only so much available revenue of people wanting to spend on this type of material. Other people want the more gonzo approach, or non-Americans, or brand new models, or models earlier in their transition. It's impossible to keep everyone happy all the time and with less total revenue out there, there will be less productions in all of these areas.
Even some of the sites which are the Granddaddys (or Grandmammys) of the industry seem to have cut back on their productions (or more expensive productions) recently.
This may just be a trend because of financial restraints going on right now or it may be an indiction of where the overall business is going and the glut of material that's been available over the last few years may become known as "The Golden Age of Shemale Porn".

I like girls who aren't in the top 10. She simply must be passable with large breast.

I disagree with your statement about "gonzo" porn. Storyline porn is in. The vast majority of the major companies are making big bucks off of storyline porn. I don't see how gonzo is so much cheaper. If Grooby simply had a script and used the same settings how is that more expensive?

You also failed to mention that some transsexual companies have not shot certain girls. Sometimes this is due to problems from both parties. Most of the time it's a situation where you must be the director's best friend. Take for example TS Seduction doesn't shot half of the T-Girls who top because Tomcat only shoots friends. Tomcat doesn't shoot business partners. For so odd reason he no longer shoots the popular Jesse. How many times does Shemale Strokers shoot Britney Markham instead of someone else?

There is also the problem with companies shooting transvestites. This is transsexual porn, not cross dressing porn. We paid for transsexual, not Jamie Markham. It's an insult to see companies shoot transvestites on transsexual sites. The funds for the content should had been used for a real transsexual.

Then of course there is Stream Only Pin Up Girls where the scenes look hot but the streaming is awful. I haven't been able to stream anything from this site in the site for days.

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 01:40 PM
I use streaming and it works fine on my site...now i know with streaming the site needs to be using a dedicated streaming server for it to be 100% effective so you can jump to any point in movie and not wait for buffering etc .

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 01:40 PM
let me just add thats streaming ontop of downloads :) i dont just stream lol

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 01:42 PM
cost is a big hurdle indeed when shooting high quality hardcore scenes ...for me to shoot a hardcore scene exlclusively for me its like £300-350 pounds for a female/ts model, then photography fee, maybe location fee if i need to shoot elsewhere from my own location..

Take in the editing time, hosting fee, billing provider cut etc ..you can see why gonzo/pov is so populer for models/producers to shoot.. i would love to shoot full on scenes with 2 cameras, exquisite locations but its just not viable the ROI isnt there for a website vehicle ..... compared to what i can make just simply sitting on my webcam in my bedroom for half a day ... when you consider you can make £1000+ in a week of webcamming...it kind of shames what you make shooting porn as a model as this is from the comfort of your own home .. no travelling etc.

You can see why so many girls are dropping out of porn, not really bothering with it as a short career path etc.. its just easier and more cost effective to escort/webcam and sell your own clips/amateur bits and bobs on sites like clips4sale, clips.com etc ...but as the majority of models are escorts and use porn scenes just to gain more promo for their personal services ...

As steven says the golden age of shemale porn is gone .. I think the industry needs to change and something has to change with all the filesharing sites/tubes etc ...

but as to porn being boring its subjective as everyperson is different to what floats there boat ...

Hey I agree with you libby, thats shocking right..x

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 01:45 PM
it is shocking my scouse girlfriend lol considering the fact your a scouse geezerbird and i am a cockney geezerbird :) lol but yeah its the truth though eh ...this is conversations i have had with models from all over the world all say the samething .

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 01:46 PM
let me just add thats streaming ontop of downloads :) i dont just stream lol

yea diff ways of streaming via a dedicated box like wowza/adobe flash server RMTP in a mp4 container bollacks bla bla - streaming should be excellent on my relaunch....

However Quite sure a big network like club would have that nailed on though?? and its more the said persons connection..?? hmm :)

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 01:48 PM
connection speeds play a massive part correct ...but as now connections are getting faster and cheaper i think that within the next 12months people will have very fast upload/downlaod speeds that will make streaming perfectly viable ... hell netflix streams, lovefilm streams they do all ok with eh :)

Prospero
10-03-2011, 01:51 PM
I watch films via streaming (and I have very fast broadband) and invariably they stop about two third of the way through the movie! So t really needs to get better.

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 01:55 PM
connection speeds play a massive part correct ...but as now connections are getting faster and cheaper i think that within the next 12months people will have very fast upload/downlaod speeds that will make streaming perfectly viable ... hell netflix streams, lovefilm streams they do all ok with eh :)


well yes but cheaper connections = more user, worse ratios = so the "Better speeds" are nullified (did i just make that word up??!?!:)

ummm and the recent "BT rollout" funding thing was for more rural areas etc that really struggle with broadband cos of distance, and how densely populated are these areas exactly... uhm.. - chnages are coming but will be another 5-10years befoer every MOFO has pwnage ping times uploads and downloads bla bla.. btw its good to not agree with you again. feels like normal now. ring you in a bit xx

Mayrah
10-03-2011, 01:58 PM
cost is a big hurdle indeed when shooting high quality hardcore scenes ...for me to shoot a hardcore scene exlclusively for me its like £300-350 pounds for a female/ts model, then photography fee, maybe location fee if i need to shoot elsewhere from my own location..



I understand that when you shoot for your own website, you are the star of the scene, so the prices for the other model is lower. But what are the prices of other websites like smc/grooby/devilsfilms etc where you come on their site?

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 02:01 PM
I understand that when you shoot for your own website, you are the star of the scene, so the prices for the other model is lower, but what what are the prices of other websites like smc/grooby/devilmsfilms etc?

Thats incorrect actually, the fee for another model is not lower at all if you want to own the scene (not shared- and the other model is a female or TS) and the rate for a pro male is the same also regardless.

The only less cost is yourself but uhm you get paid via signups or sales if you get any so no basically

Only works out cheaper if you share a scene but then the content is not exclusive... or take a chance on a non pro model (new to it all bla bla ) and well that can go either way lol

:)

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 02:07 PM
varies mayrah i have a couple of flat rates i charge per scene but as i am from the uk we dont have any TS multigirl sites here, we dont have a DVD tranny range etc ...the only work we get is our own sites, and maybe the odd shoot from a random uk company that is experimenting ..

My fee also depends on what is required of me .. for example if someone wanted me to shoot a double penetration then i am going to charge more for that .

I have asked girls to shoot for me on my site and they wanted silly money , others have been really nice and dropped their standard rates they charge the big sites as i am solo independant and dont have the budgets ...but generally i only shoot with my friends ...or friends of friends .

I have been offered shoots for evil angel, devils films but alas cant fulfil them at present due to me not being able to legally shoot in the usa a performer .. until we can work out a workaround we get the bum deal here lol

Some models can command higher model fees it does seem dependant on their exposure etc ...but the question is why pay 1 named model x fee, when i could shoot 2 other girls for the same amount ..thats a better ROI ...the name of the game is content, content is king ...

Prospero
10-03-2011, 02:10 PM
Feisty girls.... can I come watch if it gets to fisticuffs!

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 02:13 PM
I disagree with your statement about "gonzo" porn. Storyline porn is in. The vast majority of the major companies are making big bucks off of storyline porn. I don't see how gonzo is so much cheaper. If Grooby simply had a script and used the same settings how is that more expensive?
How many tgirls can actually act a scene? I don't mind a light storyline but cheesy dialogue or unrealistic settings don't get me going. Let's take Tgirl Pinups as a recent example, some of the best quality scenes and look I've seen in this genre but the expense of getting those locations, specific hair/makeup, costumes on top of everything else involved (including more involved editing) make the investment hard to be able to profit ... because many people simply won't get particularly turned on by it. I think it's great to look at and they've done a fantastic job on it but I can't ever imagine being in a 50's diner and fucking a girl, so for me personally (and many like me) it's not a turn on. It's too specific. We've seen on http://www.shemale-pornstar.com that the story driven scenes don't perform any better than the ones without a story - I don't see how we can add a script other than window cleaner/pizza delivery to our scenes that would make it worthwhile doing and keep the cost the same.
Storyline porn may be in with a few releases in mainstream but you never seem to realize that mainstream has millions of people it's aiming at where our niche is in the thousands.







I like girls who aren't in the top 10. She simply must be passable with large breast.

There is also the problem with companies shooting transvestites. This is transsexual porn, not cross dressing porn. We paid for transsexual, not Jamie Markham. It's an insult to see companies shoot transvestites on transsexual sites. The funds for the content should had been used for a real transsexual.

That's not a problem - that's your personal taste. It's an insult for one person to insist that somebody shouldn't be shown. We have sites that wouldn't feature her like, ShemalePornstar.com and others which would.



You also failed to mention that some transsexual companies have not shot certain girls. Sometimes this is due to problems from both parties. Most of the time it's a situation where you must be the director's best friend. Take for example TS Seduction doesn't shot half of the T-Girls who top because Tomcat only shoots friends. Tomcat doesn't shoot business partners. For so odd reason he no longer shoots the popular Jesse. How many times does Shemale Strokers shoot Britney Markham instead of someone else?

Blah blah blah blah ... this wasn't the topic. I didn't fail to mention it, as it's irrelevant. Whom one site chooses to shoot or not is their business. If you disagree then don't buy their services. Their are no performers "rights" that every company must work with them




Then of course there is Stream Only Pin Up Girls where the scenes look hot but the streaming is awful. I haven't been able to stream anything from this site in the site for days.
Again a different topic that you've brought up a number of times. If you are unable to stream from a site and their customer service is unable to help you sort it out, then cancel from that site.

Once again you've based the whole industry and your issues on an ego driven "what I like, is what it all should be", you don't listen to what people in the industry tell you about the amount of customers and return on each scene. If you are that convinced that what you want, is what most people want, then go out and produce a few scenes yourself. If they're good enough, I'll help you release them and see what sort of return can be made on them.
I've produced most of my sites and releases on what I like to see - so I'd suggest you try the same and see if you can have success with it as porn should be produced by those into it.

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 02:14 PM
would you like a medal ??

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 02:15 PM
w

ummm and the recent "BT rollout" funding thing was for more rural areas etc that really struggle with broadband cos of distance, and how densely populated are these areas exactly... uhm.. - chnages are coming but will be another 5-10years befoer every MOFO has pwnage ping times uploads and downloads bla bla.. btw its good to not agree with you again. feels like normal now. ring you in a bit xx

My BT Infinity was put in last week. A genuine 8mb/s upload and between 30-37mb/s download. It's awesome and £2 cheaper than my last BT line!!!

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 02:16 PM
yes sites like that are pain but also alot of those clips are just treailers used by the website that owns the material ... i am pretty good at the moment at getting my current content taken down from sites .... all the scenes you just listed there are all like 2007/2008 ... apart from 1 scene which is fairly recent this summer ... thanks i am sending a dmca out now to them .

its a constant battle dmca these sites

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 02:18 PM
My BT Infinity was put in last week. A genuine 8mb/s upload and between 30-37mb/s download. It's awesome and £2 cheaper than my last BT line!!!


nice :) on a central exchange or out in the sticks?x

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 02:24 PM
nice :) on a central exchange or out in the sticks?x

Newcastle - they've just put it in our exchange.

LibertyHarkness
10-03-2011, 02:24 PM
yeah we are upgrading to infinity this month as well :)

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 03:05 PM
Newcastle - they've just put it in our exchange.

basically its like an XXL cable modem package i presume..x 50up/10megs down or so, 15-20ms in dos..

nice but nothing really new unless you live in a non cable area?xx

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 03:14 PM
basically its like an XXL cable modem package i presume..x 50up/10megs down or so, 15-20ms in dos..

nice but nothing really new unless you live in a non cable area?xx

Nothing tried here has matched this. BT/Virgin might sell a 15/3 but it performs more like 4/1. This one literally performs at 33/8

Silcc69
10-03-2011, 03:18 PM
I like girls who aren't in the top 10. She simply must be passable with large breast.

I disagree with your statement about "gonzo" porn. Storyline porn is in. The vast majority of the major companies are making big bucks off of storyline porn. I don't see how gonzo is so much cheaper. If Grooby simply had a script and used the same settings how is that more expensive?

You also failed to mention that some transsexual companies have not shot certain girls. Sometimes this is due to problems from both parties. Most of the time it's a situation where you must be the director's best friend. Take for example TS Seduction doesn't shot half of the T-Girls who top because Tomcat only shoots friends. Tomcat doesn't shoot business partners. For so odd reason he no longer shoots the popular Jesse. How many times does Shemale Strokers shoot Britney Markham instead of someone else?

There is also the problem with companies shooting transvestites. This is transsexual porn, not cross dressing porn. We paid for transsexual, not Jamie Markham. It's an insult to see companies shoot transvestites on transsexual sites. The funds for the content should had been used for a real transsexual.

Then of course there is Stream Only Pin Up Girls where the scenes look hot but the streaming is awful. I haven't been able to stream anything from this site in the site for days.

I assume that you are/were a member at shemalestrokers.com? Then you should know about the members wanting TV's that could shoot gobs and gobs of cum. Hence why Sammy had created Sissy Strokers.

TSPornFan
10-03-2011, 04:15 PM
How many tgirls can actually act a scene? I don't mind a light storyline but cheesy dialogue or unrealistic settings don't get me going. Let's take Tgirl Pinups as a recent example, some of the best quality scenes and look I've seen in this genre but the expense of getting those locations, specific hair/makeup, costumes on top of everything else involved (including more involved editing) make the investment hard to be able to profit ... because many people simply won't get particularly turned on by it. I think it's great to look at and they've done a fantastic job on it but I can't ever imagine being in a 50's diner and fucking a girl, so for me personally (and many like me) it's not a turn on. It's too specific. We've seen on http://www.shemale-pornstar.com that the story driven scenes don't perform any better than the ones without a story - I don't see how we can add a script other than window cleaner/pizza delivery to our scenes that would make it worthwhile doing and keep the cost the same.
Storyline porn may be in with a few releases in mainstream but you never seem to realize that mainstream has millions of people it's aiming at where our niche is in the thousands.


Who can act a scene? Any pornstar can act a scene. Seriously? Are you going that low today?

This sounds like pure laziness then anything else. You think mainstream porn has a few storyline releases? You don't know what you're talking about. At least 50% of the top companies' scenes are storyline. The biggest and most successful sites feature 95% storyline porn. Even the active small companies shoot plenty of storyline porn. Storyline porn has been in for the past 5 years. Where have you been?

There are plenty of easy and cheap storylines Shemale Pornstar could use such as a house nurse, hooker, babysitter, girl scouts, maids, police, etc without changing the current settings.



Blah blah blah blah ... this wasn't the topic. I didn't fail to mention it, as it's irrelevant. Whom one site chooses to shoot or not is their business. If you disagree then don't buy their services. Their are no performers "rights" that every company must work with them
/QUOTE]

You talk like you're uneducated. I'm not off topic. You're lying and twisting the truth.

What I said has everything to do why TS porn has become boring.

Sure there is no rule that states companies must film everybody. However, it becomes very boring to see many girls only being hired by certain companies. Since 2010 Yasmin Lee has only been shot once by one other company than TS Seduction and that was Devil's Films. It's become boring to see companies shot the same person over and over again. It's becomes interesting to see someone booked by a different company that uses different male performers and shooting style.

Do you think consumers are happy seeing the same person over and over again. I am sick of seeing Britney Markham at strokers. There are plenty of girls have never been on that site they could had shot. We want to see other girls. They are out there. For example, Juliette Stray shot only one shemale pornstars scene and wasn't shot again by any company until a year later.

[QUOTE=seanchai;1016054]
That's not a problem - that's your personal taste. It's an insult for one person to insist that somebody shouldn't be shown. We have sites that wouldn't feature her like, ShemalePornstar.com and others which would.


That isn't an insult. You're lying to your paying consumers. NONE Of your sites are named transvestite. NONE of your sites advertise in any form or style that suggests transvestites. He is not a transsexual and SHOULD HAVE NEVER been on any transsexual site. That is unethical business practice. It's like playing for straight porn from Brazzers and see a transsexual instead of a biological woman because ZZ does not advertise transsexuals. It's like having a site for big tits and all of a sudden small breasted women are in movies.

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 04:21 PM
Maybe a hobby, Franklin- something active that burns off some of that energy?

And a puppy to cuddle with?

You need something, brother.

TSPornFan
10-03-2011, 04:23 PM
Maybe a hobby, Franklin- something active that burns off some of that energy?

And a puppy to cuddle with?

You need something, brother.

Good idea. I'll play some Madden tonight.

lisaparadise
10-03-2011, 04:27 PM
i agree with franklin for the most part about lack of story lines,id love to see a shemale porn with a story instead of focasing in on an ass witch is the big problem with shemale porn these days all you see is spread your cheeks its pathetic.maybe dial in on the whole picture shoes stocking body face and every once in awhile zoom in on the ass but truthfully there are no good shooters in shemale porn who do that and thats the problem,let me make it alittle more clear to the shooters back off the close-ups a bit pay more attention to the outfits stockings heels feet legs etc and give us the whole picture.just my 2 cents.

SirCumsAlot
10-03-2011, 04:45 PM
Perhaps you need to take a break from viewing porn.

:iagree:

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 06:24 PM
Nothing tried here has matched this. BT/Virgin might sell a 15/3 but it performs more like 4/1. This one literally performs at 33/8

Sounds impressive. been using bethere in north west (fantastic for dsl, 2.5 meg up, 24 meg down), got virgin in norwich which i think is quite good but varies at peak times - which is the key problem with cable.

will look into the roll out plans!x

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 06:35 PM
Who can act a scene? Any pornstar can act a scene. Seriously? Are you going that low today?

This sounds like pure laziness then anything else. You think mainstream porn has a few storyline releases? You don't know what you're talking about. At least 50% of the top companies' scenes are storyline. The biggest and most successful sites feature 95% storyline porn. Even the active small companies shoot plenty of storyline porn. Storyline porn has been in for the past 5 years. Where have you been?

There are plenty of easy and cheap storylines Shemale Pornstar could use such as a house nurse, hooker, babysitter, girl scouts, maids, police, etc without changing the current settings.

[quote=seanchai;1016054]
Blah blah blah blah ... this wasn't the topic. I didn't fail to mention it, as it's irrelevant. Whom one site chooses to shoot or not is their business. If you disagree then don't buy their services. Their are no performers "rights" that every company must work with them
/QUOTE]

You talk like you're uneducated. I'm not off topic. You're lying and twisting the truth.

What I said has everything to do why TS porn has become boring.

Sure there is no rule that states companies must film everybody. However, it becomes very boring to see many girls only being hired by certain companies. Since 2010 Yasmin Lee has only been shot once by one other company than TS Seduction and that was Devil's Films. It's become boring to see companies shot the same person over and over again. It's becomes interesting to see someone booked by a different company that uses different male performers and shooting style.

Do you think consumers are happy seeing the same person over and over again. I am sick of seeing Britney Markham at strokers. There are plenty of girls have never been on that site they could had shot. We want to see other girls. They are out there. For example, Juliette Stray shot only one shemale pornstars scene and wasn't shot again by any company until a year later.



That isn't an insult. You're lying to your paying consumers. NONE Of your sites are named transvestite. NONE of your sites advertise in any form or style that suggests transvestites. He is not a transsexual and SHOULD HAVE NEVER been on any transsexual site. That is unethical business practice. It's like playing for straight porn from Brazzers and see a transsexual instead of a biological woman because ZZ does not advertise transsexuals. It's like having a site for big tits and all of a sudden small breasted women are in movies.

Oh dear, I'm not going to get into the old chestnut of "what's a shemale" again Franklin, we've been over that and it's boring. It's not unethical at all and I've never lied to a paying consumer so STFU and stop playing so dumb (or are you really that ignorant?).

I've told you before you don't have a clue about the industry or the people in as much as you think you do.
Go and produce your own content as that's all that will make you happy, I'm not dredging up stuff that's already been answered.
I had the courtesy to explain to you why less stuff is being produced and the state of the industry, pull your head of your ass and appreciate that this isn't an opinion, this is how it is.

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 06:52 PM
THERE ARE NO NEW GIRLS IN SHEMALE PORN !?!?!

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0930/pics/004.jpg
Nathalie

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0923/pics/004.jpg
Eva Lin

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0916/pics/003.jpg
Dominique

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0902/pics/003.jpg
Tiffany Starr

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0826/pics/003.jpg
Jenna Rachels

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0805/pics/003.jpg
Brittany

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0715/pics/001.jpg
Unique

http://black-shemale-hardcore.com/tour/galleries/12/image_59901.jpg
Bianca Diaz

http://black-shemale-hardcore.com/tour/galleries/8/image_53762.jpg
Lola the Hole Puncher

http://black-shemale-hardcore.com/tour/galleries/10/image_22704.jpg
Heather Hung

http://www.sheamlepornstar.com
http://www.black-shemale-hardcore.com

WendyWilliams
10-03-2011, 06:55 PM
I remember in 2006 or so it was the same group of us girls over and over LOL............I beg to differ for those who dont think the genre has had a rejuvenating *sp* in the last few years...Tons of new girls who seem to get younger. I honestly think the last few years with all the new girls has given the genre a new fan base. But what do I know LOL

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 06:57 PM
yup appears to be more and more girls popping up all the time...??

SirCumsAlot
10-03-2011, 07:02 PM
ha storylines in porn! Dont they still use the classic pizza delivery boy routine?

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 07:04 PM
http://shemaleyum.com/tour/galleries/33/image_97085.jpg
Jenessa Hart

http://shemaleyum.com/tour/galleries/29/image_33135.jpg
Candi McBride

http://shemaleyum.com/tour/galleries/26/image_11774.jpg
Tieghjiana

http://shemaleyum.com/tour/galleries/24/image_37550.jpg
Kitti Kaiti

http://shemaleyum.com/tour/galleries/23/image_76470.jpg
Jareliz

http://black-tgirls.com/tour/galleries/HR_6107.jpg
Piper

http://www.black-tgirls.com/tour/galleries/HR_5920.jpg
Heaven

http://www.black-tgirls.com/tour/galleries/HR_5858.jpg
Kayla Biggs

http://www.shemaleyum.com
http://www.black-tgirls.com

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 07:05 PM
ha storylines in porn! Dont they still use the classic pizza delivery boy routine?

yup every single scene ever. :)... most DVD's are printed to actually look like pizzas just with diff "toppings" as per your requirements

lisaparadise
10-03-2011, 07:08 PM
THERE ARE NO NEW GIRLS IN SHEMALE PORN !?!?!

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0930/pics/004.jpg
Nathalie

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0923/pics/004.jpg
Eva Lin

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0916/pics/003.jpg
Dominique

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0902/pics/003.jpg
Tiffany Starr

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0826/pics/003.jpg
Jenna Rachels

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0805/pics/003.jpg
Brittany

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0715/pics/001.jpg
Unique

http://black-shemale-hardcore.com/tour/galleries/12/image_59901.jpg
Bianca Diaz

http://black-shemale-hardcore.com/tour/galleries/8/image_53762.jpg
Lola the Hole Puncher

http://black-shemale-hardcore.com/tour/galleries/10/image_22704.jpg
Heather Hung

http://www.sheamlepornstar.com
http://www.black-shemale-hardcore.comthat a an awesome group of girls,very very impressive.

needsum
10-03-2011, 07:32 PM
Ok, so here's a serious question: A few years back I had an idea for a storyline and decided to write one. I never did anything with it because I had no outlet for it at the time. From those of you who know, and not from those who just talk shit, if I decided to submit it for someone to look over and maybe turn it into a movie, who/where do I go?

needsum
10-03-2011, 07:35 PM
Well of course someone's buying porn. But not like they were pre-2008.

But just look at this forum. No one's raising the bar. It's getting lowered to the tastes of the dick-hungry fags on board. Dino brags he won't pay more than $100 for some dirty streetwalking transvestite, yet you have some of the most beautiful transsexuals in the world featured here. Something's wrong with that picture. You don't let a guy park his shitbox jalopy across the street from your Rolls dealership. I mean, if this place wants to celebrate beautiful transsexuals, why are scummy razor-stubble transvestites permitted in the mix? I dunno. I'm sure someone can explain it, but I don't think I'll ever wrap my brain around it. I don't think Heff or Guccione would have achieved what they did if right after the Playmate or pet of the Month, they featured a random article on scat from Screw Magazine. I think the "throw shit at the wall and see if any sticks" mentality is literally not appealing.

But I don't even like tranny porn anyway. I like straight porn, if any, and I want SRS relatively soon. I'm probably not the right person to give feedback here.


:iagree: I've never understood that myself. I have always been interested in gurls who look like girls. skinny dudes in wigs, with no tits, acne, and stubble are NOT Hung Angels. Maybe some day, after they have had their turn with transitioning, they might get to that point. But for the time being, they are cross dressers at best. I don't see them as having a place on a forum like this--it goes against the nature of the title itself. But to each his own. I'll have my beautiful, feminine women, y'all can have your men in drag. :ignore:

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 07:38 PM
... if I decided to submit it for someone to look over and maybe turn it into a movie, who/where do I go?

Look to raise the money to do it yourself as I seriously doubt anybody would be that interested. I'm not trying to put you down, just a fact.

Nicole Dupre
10-03-2011, 07:40 PM
Based on face value of what I'm hearing on what might be a grey area, my apologies to Wendy. But most of the other scumbags who blatantly fucked me over can indeed slowly drop dead for all I care. As Isa said, when you hear the same things being said by at least a half a dozen girls, something isn't right. Lightning doesn't strike repeatedly in the same spot. Toodles for today. :-)

needsum
10-03-2011, 07:47 PM
Look to raise the money to do it yourself as I seriously doubt anybody would be that interested. I'm not trying to put you down, just a fact.


thanks for the advice. Too bad. maybe I'll just blog it somewhere. I'll never get to th epoint where I'd ever make it myself, even though it could be kinda cool....

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 07:48 PM
If you are not looking to make money, blog it or put it on a forum and you never know, you might pique a producers interest.

TSLexiWade
10-03-2011, 07:54 PM
Extremely interesting thread...

I kinda got hard when you called Franklin a cunt Steven. :whistle:

SirCumsAlot
10-03-2011, 07:59 PM
thanks for the advice. Too bad. maybe I'll just blog it somewhere. I'll never get to th epoint where I'd ever make it myself, even though it could be kinda cool....

just post it up man how secretive can it be. Not like its a Steven Spielberg movie plot or anything. Most people watch porn on mute or low volume anyways and fast forward to the sex

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 07:59 PM
Extremely interesting thread...

I kinda got hard when you called Franklin a cunt Steven. :whistle:

Nah it was the other guy I called a cunt.
I actually have respect most of the time for Franklin as he brings up some relevant points and I have acted on some of them. When I want to kick him in the ass, or put him in a neck lock and give him a noogy is when, despite being told something umpteen times, he still refuses to listen and believes that only his view, is the right one.

Also FYI a British cunt isn't as bad as an American cunt.

TSLexiWade
10-03-2011, 08:01 PM
Nah it was the other guy I called a cunt.
I actually have respect most of the time for Franklin as he brings up some relevant points and I have acted on some of them. When I want to kick him in the ass, or put him in a neck lock and give him a noogy is when, despite being told something umpteen times, he still refuses to listen and believes that only his view, is the right one.

Also FYI a British cunt isn't as bad as an American cunt.



Ooops, sorry Franklin --- Whomever you called a cunt - LOL. It turned me on & that's all that matters. :fuckin:

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 08:06 PM
A Blue Tribute to Deadwood - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pKt2y1_MAA)

SammiValentine
10-03-2011, 08:08 PM
Also FYI a British cunt isn't as bad as an American cunt.

is that a cameron/bush comparison ?:D fair play nail on head?? lol

TSLexiWade
10-03-2011, 08:09 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! I love it! Thanks Steven..


LMAO! This is the greatest...

needsum
10-03-2011, 08:12 PM
just post it up man how secretive can it be. Not like its a Steven Spielberg movie plot or anything. Most people watch porn on mute or low volume anyways and fast forward to the sex


its not that its some secret thing. but I wasn't gonna just throw it up on the net if there was a shot I could get it made and make a little cash off of it. why should I put it up for someone else to steal amd make money off of it? of course, thats assuming its any good.... lol but in the long run, its not worth my time to even go past this point with it. Senchai, thanks again for the advice.

lisaparadise
10-03-2011, 08:15 PM
Extremely interesting thread...

I kinda got hard when you called Franklin a cunt Steven. :whistle:hahahaha nice lol

TSPornFan
10-03-2011, 11:03 PM
THERE ARE NO NEW GIRLS IN SHEMALE PORN !?!?!

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Nathalie

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Eva Lin

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Dominique

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Tiffany Starr

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Jenna Rachels

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Brittany

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Unique

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Bianca Diaz

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Lola the Hole Puncher

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Heather Hung

http://www.sheamlepornstar.com
http://www.black-shemale-hardcore.com

Part of the problem is more than half of these girls won't get booked by other companies because some companies like TS Seduction and Strokers only want to shoot their friends instead of making new partners. There's nothing wrong with shooting a friend. However, something is wrong when a girl who is NOT a contract pornstar appearing too much on a site instead of someone making a debut on a site. I am bored to death seeing Yasmin Lee in 1/3 of TS Seduction's updates.

MdR Dave
10-03-2011, 11:09 PM
Part of the problem is more than half of these girls won't get booked by other companies because some companies like TS Seduction and Strokers only want to shoot their friends instead of making new partners. There's nothing wrong with shooting a friend. However, something is wrong when a girl who is NOT a contract pornstar appearing too much on a site instead of someone making a debut on a site. I am bored to death seeing Yasmin Lee in 1/3 of TS Seduction's updates.

It's sounding like your main objection is that you can't get everything you want out of a single subscription!

BellaBellucci
10-03-2011, 11:22 PM
The niche is insular and cliquey and casting is hugely based on personal favoritism/nepotism, not talent or even sales. This is done by those at the top of the food chain largely as a method of controlling those below, thereby perpetuating their own dominance. They have no problem making bricks look like stars and talented girls outcasts as long as either strategy serves their long term goals.

TS is a very small niche and is in a growth period right now because it's had nowhere to go but up. The industry power elite know this full, so maintaining control (dominance) in this climate is the only way to win the long-game as new competitors enter the marketplace.

~BB~

WendyWilliams
10-03-2011, 11:24 PM
Yasmin has been asked by numerous sites to shoot and she declines as she is happy with working for Kink at this time. She makes good money there so why would she go to another site. So until she decides to shoot outside of Kink thats where you will see her.

BellaBellucci
10-03-2011, 11:26 PM
PS: The TS porn industry isn't much different than any other entertainment business. Remember this girl?

Fiona Apple world is bullshit - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSLwYrPbuts)

Yeah.

~BB~

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 11:28 PM
Yasmin has been asked by numerous sites to shoot and she declines as she is happy with working for Kink at this time. She makes good money there so why would she go to another site. So until she decides to shoot outside of Kink thats where you will see her.

Yep we've asked her numerous times but she only likes to work hardcore scenes and only for Kink right now as she works on other projects.

TSPornFan
10-03-2011, 11:32 PM
It's sounding like your main objection is that you can't get everything you want out of a single subscription!

Well when a popular person has been in the business for like a year and has never appeared on your site then.............................................. .................................................. .................................

This isn't straight porn with tons of companies doing bookings. There are just a few TS American companies. It should not take more than a year or more for a girl to appear on a site.

I don't know too much about Paris. She did photo shots with SMC, hardcore scenes with TS Seduction and a few hardcore scenes with Devil's Films. She retired from porn. To my knowledge she never appeared on any Grooby site nor Strokers. She was in the business well over a year.

Celeste is extremely popular. However, she has not been on Strokers for two or three years. She has topped before for Grooby but never booked for TS Seduction. She has never been on any SMC site, but Isa told me that Celeste use to be a flake.


Yasmin has been asked by numerous sites to shoot and she declines as she is happy with working for Kink at this time. She makes good money there so why would she go to another site. So until she decides to shoot outside of Kink thats where you will see her.

Yasmin is the exception. Personally I am sick of seeing her on TS Seduction. I know she is hot and is a good performer. They could shoot more different people if they honestly wanted to.

GroobySteven
10-03-2011, 11:39 PM
Franklin - can you get me the profit and loss statements for SMC, Strokers and Kink for the years 2011, 2010 and 2009 please as well as any tax return info.

You are going to see less and less of some girls, if some companies give them very poor exclusivity contracts essentially banning them from working for other online companies. This is detrimental to the models and the fans but serves those companies well, so let's hope it won't happen.

Los Angeles resident
10-03-2011, 11:46 PM
I agree that shemale porn is boring when all you see is the shemale doing the sucking and getting fucked by a guy. This is why I haven't watched straight porn between a guy and a GG in years.

I'd rather it be the other way around and that the shemale is either with a GG or another shemale.

WendyWilliams
10-03-2011, 11:48 PM
When I started out an exclusive contract would be hurtful but now I dont see it has hurting them but honestly good for them (in beginning). A new girl can get her name out then stop working for other companies while launching her own site. Look at Kimber for example who doesnt work for anyone anymore and has one of the top financially profitable solo sites. Someone like Jonelle who is exclusive to SMC is not hurting by not working for another online company in the beginning. She will continue to get work for SMC sites, she is making money and being paid to do Member webcam shows for SMC sites, guys who want to see her because she is NEW and fresh will join her site now instead of other sites. Only small negative is exposure but she can optain that with a few DVD's out and her continued online presence via social networks. I DONT see it hurting online companies except those who want to shoot her. Jonelle is only an example because she is really a hard worker! Eventually down the line she might have to branch out but in the beginning I dont see the necessity for her to shoot for every online site and just focus on her site and her team.

I think new models would be smart to think about not over exposing themselves in the first 6 months and build their own sites, camming, DvD appearances ETC

BellaBellucci
10-03-2011, 11:53 PM
I think new models would be smart to think about not over exposing themselves in the first 6 months and build their own sites, camming, DvD appearances ETC

Overexposure shouldn't be an issue as long as girls keep it fresh. People don't necessarily get sick of new models very quickly, but they do get sick of seeing them always looking the same and doing the same things repeatedly. The way to stay relevant is to have depth, not to artificially slow your own career progression. Just look at Tiffany Starr. How many shoots has she done so far? Maybe 10? And she looks completely different in each? It all comes back to the quantity/quality ratio. If you can keep up the latter, the former becomes less of an issue.

~BB~

WendyWilliams
10-03-2011, 11:59 PM
When you are launching a new site , exposure has ALOT to do with your initial success of signups ETC...Also if you do everything for everyone else so fast you dont leave alot of those "first" for your own personal site..That is my point!

BellaBellucci
10-04-2011, 12:03 AM
When you are launching a new site , exposure has ALOT to do with your initial success of signups ETC...Also if you do everything for everyone else so fast you dont leave alot of those "first" for your own personal site..That is my point!

Agreed. Models should try to control their content whenever possible. :Bowdown:

~BB~

GroobySteven
10-04-2011, 12:04 AM
When I started out an exclusive contract would be hurtful but now I dont see it has hurting them but honestly good for them (in beginning). A new girl can get her name out then stop working for other companies while launching her own site. Look at Kimber for example who doesnt work for anyone anymore and has one of the top financially profitable solo sites. Someone like Jonelle who is exclusive to SMC is not hurting by not working for another online company in the beginning. She will continue to get work for SMC sites, she is making money and being paid to do Member webcam shows for SMC sites, guys who want to see her because she is NEW and fresh will join her site now instead of other sites. Only small negative is exposure but she can optain that with a few DVD's out and her continued online presence via social networks. I DONT see it hurting online companies except those who want to shoot her. Jonelle is only an example because she is really a hard worker! Eventually down the line she might have to branch out but in the beginning I dont see the necessity for her to shoot for every online site and just focus on her site and her team.

I think new models would be smart to think about not over exposing themselves in the first 6 months and build their own sites, camming, DvD appearances ETC

Not all exposure is bad exposure Wendy and signing up to an exclusive contract in this day and age, when websites are making less and less, only makes sense to those holding the contract. Kimber & BJ are exceptions (and I don't believe they signed any contracts but chose to work only on select projects, something I'd advocate any model to do) in that they were internet stars before they had their websites.
When a new model could make in her initial shoots, $10-$20k yet isn't able to do that because of a contract, it's unlikely that the same return will be made on her website profit simply because she hasn't done those shoots. Certainly in relatively untested models this is high risk and I would suggest any model look at the motivation and bigger picture behind anyone desperate enough to have to lock a model in exclusively - because it's not the models best interest they have at heart.

Girls in this specific niche, with so few producers should pick and choose exactly which companies they want to work with, regardless of whether they are doing a solo site or not. I can't see you ever having stood for that, despite the fact it would have been more advantageous years ago, when there were less models.

I agree with your second point but that being the choice of a model to make, not a contract.

bte
10-04-2011, 12:05 AM
Overexposure shouldn't be an issue as long as girls keep it fresh. People don't necessarily get sick of new models very quickly, but they do get sick of seeing them always looking the same and doing the same things repeatedly. The way to stay relevant is to have depth, not to artificially slow your own career progression. Just look at Tiffany Starr. How many shoots has she done so far? Maybe 10? And she looks completely different in each? It all comes back to the quantity/quality ratio. If you can keep up the latter, the former becomes less of an issue.

~BB~

Overexposure can still happen even if the girl keeps it fresh. I don't know if I am the minority, but I get tired of seeing the same girl doing the same thing, the only thing that is different is her look. I think sometimes when a new girl comes out, the consumer gets bombarded with so many shoots of the new girl. Whether the shoot is on Shemale Yum, then Shemale Domination, then T-Girl Pinups, then repeat. I notice that some guys like it when they haven't seen a girl in a long time and they pay more attention to her than someone who we already seen a dozen times in other sites.

WendyWilliams
10-04-2011, 12:16 AM
Oh I def. agree that each model has diff circumstances and all should put all their options on the table before deciding or signing a contract. However if a model can make that same type of money with a contract by doing other shoots within the network, paid at home cam shows, ETC then she isnt really hurting in the long run. HOWEVER not every girl has those options or not all have a "star" factor to do so.

I dont think companies are "desperate" when they sign models as it happens outside of the TS market all the time. If that model can make "x" amount of money outside of her website within a company because of her contract then no need to shoot for others as her income is being padded with her website and that is what an EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT is there to do.

I would never tell a girl to sign a contract if that contract has no incentives outside of her website that would financially be bad for the girl!

BellaBellucci
10-04-2011, 12:19 AM
Overexposure can still happen even if the girl keeps it fresh.

Oh, of course you're right, but it really depends on the girl. Some need the extra boost and some are just natural draws. I think it's subjective, but to say that a model should necessarily underexposure herself for a certain period of time seems generalized and arbitrary.

~BB~

TSMichelleAustin
10-04-2011, 12:24 AM
I think that since I have not been on a lot of sites or any dvds that it might help launch of my site! Plus i am trying to make scenes a lot different on my site, and giving options on my solo site. I was told when I come into this industry to not over expose yourself. But of course I think like any model we want to work more in this business. But, now that I am further into it and getting closer to my site launch that I am glad for the outcome of everything. And considering I will own all my content.

Porn can be boring if you watch it so much too! I personally hate story lines when I watch porn.... i fast forward all that! Its too cheezy! Unless its real like reality I dont think its good! So I am trying to do more reality base intros to my scenes.

GroobySteven
10-04-2011, 12:26 AM
Oh I def. agree that each model has diff circumstances and all should put all their options on the table before deciding or signing a contract. However if a model can make that same type of money with a contract by doing other shoots within the network, paid at home cam shows, ETC then she isnt really hurting in the long run. HOWEVER not every girl has those options or not all have a "star" factor to do so.

I dont think companies are "desperate" when they sign models as it happens outside of the TS market all the time. If that model can make "x" amount of money outside of her website within a company because of her contract then no need to shoot for others as her income is being padded with her website and that is what an EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT is there to do.

I would never tell a girl to sign a contract if that contract has no incentives outside of her website that would financially be bad for the girl!

I think they're probably fairly desperate Wendy and probably reflecting losing market share, which is why they wouldn't lock her in to a contract to benefit the models own site but to prevent her from working on sites competitive to their other network sites and income. As I said earlier, I sincerely doubt that by being in such a contract it would reflect in monetary gain for her being exclusive over working and making straight up model payments for the sites or companies she selects. This is why a contract favours the company and harms the model.

I think you have far more integrity to suggest a model to something financially bad for herself, than unfortunately, others do.

As a business, it's "possibly" a good idea but unless they're offering that model $20,000-$30,000 a year on top of her website split, on top of the cam split and on top of shoots she's getting paid to do for other sites on that network, then they are hurting her finances.

GroobySteven
10-04-2011, 12:28 AM
I think that since I have not been on a lot of sites or any dvds that it might help launch of my site! Plus i am trying to make scenes a lot different on my site, and giving options on my solo site. I was told when I come into this industry to not over expose yourself. But of course I think like any model we want to work more in this business. But, now that I am further into it and getting closer to my site launch that I am glad for the outcome of everything. And considering I will own all my content.

Essentially what you are doing Michelle, is locking YOURSELF into the same sort of contract that someone like KJ or BJ has done, decided to limit your exposure and own all your own content, while still giving yourself the opportunity to work in other projects is something fun came along.

How close to your site launch?

TSMichelleAustin
10-04-2011, 12:30 AM
Essentially what you are doing Michelle, is locking YOURSELF into the same sort of contract that someone like KJ or BJ has done, decided to limit your exposure and own all your own content, while still giving yourself the opportunity to work in other projects is something fun came along.

How close to your site launch?

Well I purposely haven't locked myself there... the industry has per say but I am not mad about it now! We are close to launch, when site is done designed which I am assuming any day now, the content is all up! LOL! I am excited and its looking amazing!

TSPornFan
10-04-2011, 12:35 AM
When I started out an exclusive contract would be hurtful but now I dont see it has hurting them but honestly good for them (in beginning). A new girl can get her name out then stop working for other companies while launching her own site. Look at Kimber for example who doesnt work for anyone anymore and has one of the top financially profitable solo sites. Someone like Jonelle who is exclusive to SMC is not hurting by not working for another online company in the beginning. She will continue to get work for SMC sites, she is making money and being paid to do Member webcam shows for SMC sites, guys who want to see her because she is NEW and fresh will join her site now instead of other sites. Only small negative is exposure but she can optain that with a few DVD's out and her continued online presence via social networks. I DONT see it hurting online companies except those who want to shoot her. Jonelle is only an example because she is really a hard worker! Eventually down the line she might have to branch out but in the beginning I dont see the necessity for her to shoot for every online site and just focus on her site and her team.

I think new models would be smart to think about not over exposing themselves in the first 6 months and build their own sites, camming, DvD appearances ETC

I can't think of anyone as being over exposed by appearing on every site. Most girls have not appeared on many sites unless they've been in the business for more than five years. I think girls like Yasmin Lee and Britney Markham are over exposed on the sites that always book them. TS Seduction and Strokers aren't one girl only sites. Over exposing them on their sites is not good. It makes the product boring for the consumers. I understand Yasmin enjoys Kink. Is it in Kink's best interest to always book the same girl over and over again? Eventually people want to see fresh girls in the business or atleast new girls on the site. This type of over exposure is very bad business.

The last time Kimber worked for anyone else was about two years ago for her last Transsexual Babysitters scene with Christian. Recently she did a request for me. :)

I do think the business would do good to have someone like a Kimber James, Bailey Jay, or Sarina Valentina to appear on ALL or MOST Transsexual sites. It appears to me that most girls are under exposed. At the moment consumers have very limited options if they have particular standards for TS women. In my opinion the top girl in a niche would benefit more by working with more companies instead of her site. At the moment there isn't really another Vanity. Bailey Jay had the option but limited herself to mostly pictures. Sarina Valentina in my opinion can be better than Vanity if she had more exposure.

SammiValentine
10-04-2011, 12:36 AM
Wow..$10,000-$20,000 in paid shoots initial shoots? really?? is that not like 15-30 scenes?? thats not overexposure, thats rape!! lol. thats a loooooooooot of scenes - especially in this market.. surely unachievable.... or does that actually happen?


Curious.

I agree you need some exposure and i agree not to much, you need to control your brand/name/image, try to avoid making bad decisions like shared content with the wrong people or not understanding what your agreeing to - and eat all your greens !!! get your 5 a day :)

For most I think it is fair to say serious wonga is found outside of porn nowadays, in the adultbiz...

GroobySteven
10-04-2011, 12:39 AM
Wow..$10,000-$20,000 in paid shoots initial shoots? really?? is that not like 15-30 scenes?? thats not overexposure, thats rape!! lol. thats a loooooooooot of scenes - especially in this market.. surely unachievable.... or does that actually happen?

A first year popular (somebody who would be likely to feature on the main sites) model, who does hardcores also should be able to achieve that without a problem. I think Eva Lin has done 4 hardcore shoots and 3 solo shoots with us already and more in the works.

SammiValentine
10-04-2011, 12:42 AM
A first year popular (somebody who would be likely to feature on the main sites) model, who does hardcores also should be able to achieve that without a problem.

Hard to appreciate in old blighty for reasons we all know but such constraints and limited scenes are probably a factor as to why UK girls solo sites do fine - the exposure thingy.

Shrug. All good. Am going to bed - this turned into an interesting thread - not so boring after all ;-)

LibertyHarkness
10-04-2011, 12:46 AM
lol no sammi we just get paid less per scene compared to usa girls in the uk and not the volume of shoots . as you say sammi for uk market its about solo sites with cam ..

GroobySteven
10-04-2011, 12:48 AM
lol no sammi we just get paid less per scene compared to usa girls in the uk and not the volume of shoots . as you say sammi for uk market its about solo sites with cam ..

I thought you got paid the same as the US models?

WendyWilliams
10-04-2011, 12:49 AM
I wish I didnt have to rely on cam but it sure does help ALOT,,,no matter where you are from LOL

LibertyHarkness
10-04-2011, 12:50 AM
.. we are quite light on a hardcore scene by 150pounds ish

LibertyHarkness
10-04-2011, 12:51 AM
to right wendy, webcam is a great earner by far, but what is great with webcam is the direction of traffic to your own site and escort etc ... i made just over 400dollars on cam today ... not bad just sitting on my ass editing pictures and talking shit to cam clients ... i quite enjoy camming ..

MrsKellyPierce
10-04-2011, 12:53 AM
Underexposed, Overexposed, as long as you are good to your fans and perform well when you shoot...they will support you...

GroobySteven
10-04-2011, 12:54 AM
.. we are quite light on a hardcore scene by 150pounds ish

Just looked at my invoices and it looks like you are light on hardcore scenes. Why do you charge so little?

SammiValentine
10-04-2011, 12:54 AM
.. we are quite light on a hardcore scene by 150pounds ish

and one of the major players doesnt have a UK tog anymore I believe??!

its ok loads of jobs going at tescos. you can be on the cheese counter and i will be on the meat counter mmmm xx

LibertyHarkness
10-04-2011, 12:54 AM
but going back to topic as its digressing from the original point of boring scenes .. one persons boring scene is another great scene .. i mean what is the average duration of a tugger that wants to get off? do people actually sit and watch through acomplete 25min bvideo scene .. i no i dont .. i skip about when watching porn and get to the bits that look horny etc ..

i have asked this alot on cam shows to people and about 2 thirds said the same thing .. they watch a few minutes at start, skip to middle for a few minutes then watch the last 5/6minutes with cumshots setc

SammiValentine
10-04-2011, 12:55 AM
Just looked at my invoices and it looks like you are light on hardcore scenes. Why do you charge so little?

its what we have always been "given, told, offered" standard, since ive been around anyway. I guess Jo would know the best. x

LibertyHarkness
10-04-2011, 12:55 AM
we'll take this private steven on email ..rather than discuss on an open forum :)

TSLexiWade
10-04-2011, 12:57 AM
I agree that shemale porn is boring when all you see is the shemale doing the sucking and getting fucked by a guy. This is why I haven't watched straight porn between a guy and a GG in years.

I'd rather it be the other way around and that the shemale is either with a GG or another shemale.


Then you should join www.AmyDaly.com ;)

SammiValentine
10-04-2011, 12:57 AM
we'll take this private steven on email ..rather than discuss on an open forum :)

boooo hiss carry on !!!! i am touching myself xxx

MrsKellyPierce
10-04-2011, 12:58 AM
A lot of girls forget to interact with the consumers...which hurt them a lot...in my opinion..

Building a loyal fan base is important...

Ben
10-04-2011, 01:21 AM
Damn. For about the past month Transsexual porn has been boring as hell. Way too many damn gonzo scenes. Lack of passable girls in content. Some American sites not updating with hardcore content. Only a handful of scenes are worth watching.

I like specific T Girls. And plus the T Girls one likes, well, you merely join their sites, as it were... :)

lisaparadise
10-04-2011, 01:27 AM
this is retarted lol the whole world is about to go into another reccession and you all bitching and crying over porn lol :yayo:

LibertyHarkness
10-04-2011, 01:32 AM
Lol about to go into a recession, we already are in one lisa :)

SammiValentine
10-04-2011, 01:35 AM
Lol about to go into a recession, we already are in one lisa :)


Mmmmmm yea bit of a double dip Recession at the moment as well!! And we all love double dipping dont we???

Yes been in a general recession since the buy to let bubble popped in late 2006 - huge warning signs then - deosnt help when these godlman sachs keep spunking 10,000000000 billion dollars on "lucky red" at the 3.15 at aintree racecourse?? lool

. Anyway if it finally brings an end to the Euro...... here here.

lisaparadise
10-04-2011, 01:50 AM
Lol about to go into a recession, we already are in one lisa :)yayaya lol im canadian we didnt have much of one maybe cause we pay more taxes lol p.s. all this porn talk gave me a woody but im im pain at the moment ive had a sore neck and i put rub A535 on it and didnt wash it off my hands and now my mrs.wiggly is on fire and hurts like a bitch lol

SammiValentine
10-04-2011, 01:53 AM
yayaya lol im canadian we didnt have much of one maybe cause we pay more taxes lol

your high earners pay more than 50%?:)

lisaparadise
10-04-2011, 01:56 AM
your high earners pay more than 50%?:)and the Americans act like the whole worlds coming to an end if they raise taxes lol.freakin cry babies.:mad:

Silcc69
10-04-2011, 07:11 AM
and the Americans act like the whole worlds coming to an end if they raise taxes lol.freakin cry babies.:mad:

LOL U aint lyin!

Anyways I wonder how much money does Franklin spend on porn?

MdR Dave
10-04-2011, 07:22 AM
LOL U aint lyin!

Anyways I wonder how much money does Franklin spend on porn?

Yeah! This is what I think, reading his posts: he isn't concerned about the variety, just the variety available in a single outlet (subscription).

I have my own budget crisis, too, kid!

Pelheckitt
10-04-2011, 07:48 AM
Later, you scrawny country boy faggot. Go play with your guns, like a good small-dicked homo with an inferiority complex. And maybe do us a favor and blow off that clueless looking air-pocket you call your head. I've seen your MySpace profile pics, and you look like 90 lbs of hammered shit.

Really that is what your looking for, me to commit suicide? Really? I thought about a reply to this for awhile and intially was going to reply with some of the same you have gave me. But let me leave you with two small peices of information first I have never been a member of Facebook or MySpace, second my cousin commited suicide when I was 16 and I was the lucky family member to find him. I can have a goodtime with the back and forth we have but asking me to do something as tragic as to take my own life? Nah. Sorry I can find no humor in that and really it seems malicious.

BigDF
10-04-2011, 12:25 PM
Ok, so here's a serious question: A few years back I had an idea for a storyline and decided to write one. I never did anything with it because I had no outlet for it at the time. From those of you who know, and not from those who just talk shit, if I decided to submit it for someone to look over and maybe turn it into a movie, who/where do I go?I can't tell you who to submit a script to, but if it's in short story form, you might consider Literotica. Other than that, you might ask some of the other folks on here who are in the production business. If you put a copyright notice on your work, you shouldn't have to worry about it being stolen. No reputable company will use someone's work without paying for the rights. :geek:

slingblade
10-04-2011, 01:02 PM
A lot of girls forget to interact with the consumers...which hurt them a lot...in my opinion..

Building a loyal fan base is important...

I dont know if thats it shemale porn isnt' boring but for some reason american shemale porn is boring the brizillian porn seems so much better than american porn and I cant even understand a word of it.

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 01:26 PM
Really that is what your looking for, me to commit suicide? Really? I thought about a reply to this for awhile and intially was going to reply with some of the same you have gave me. But let me leave you with two small peices of information first I have never been a member of Facebook or MySpace, second my cousin commited suicide when I was 16 and I was the lucky family member to find him. I can have a goodtime with the back and forth we have but asking me to do something as tragic as to take my own life? Nah. Sorry I can find no humor in that and really it seems malicious.
Then stay out of my face, asshole. I don't know you, and I don't want to know you. The malicious one is your hysterical BF, Pink Raider, who told me to "catch AIDS and die". Now get back to blowing him asap, you sensitive little faggot. I never addressed you to begin with. You put yourself on MY radar, so eat shit.

Pelheckitt
10-04-2011, 02:22 PM
Then stay out of my face, asshole. I don't know you, and I don't want to know you. The malicious one is your hysterical BF, Pink Raider, who told me to "catch AIDS and die". Now get back to blowing him asap, you sensitive little faggot. I never addressed you to begin with. You put yourself on MY radar, so eat shit.

Nice your a class act!
If CR told you to catch AIDS and die then take it up with him.
After trying to converse with in a civil manner im going to speak to you in a way you will understand.
Fuck you, you hateful nasty souless, dried up husk of a person. You hate yourself so much that you have to project your hate on to everything and everyone. To much booze to much drugs and to much hormones have taken a toll on your already soft mind. Go blow a john to keep the cable on you fucking tired ass slag. You self righteous bitch where the fuck do get off judging anybody? My sensitivity stops at the end of my steel toed boot care to guess where I want to put it...anywhere that makes you scream out loud. And you dont have to worry about me being on your radar you fucking old has been/never was faggot in a dress im done with your wrinkle nasty ass. Now you can go fucking die somewhere, actually I hope its in a horrible car fire.
Oh yeah before I forget I hope you fucking catch AIDS and die.

Im done with you.

slingblade
10-04-2011, 02:31 PM
Nice your a class act!
If CR told you to catch AIDS and die then take it up with him.
After trying to converse with in a civil manner im going to speak to you in a way you will understand.
Fuck you, you hateful nasty souless, dried up husk of a person. You hate yourself so much that you have to project your hate on to everything and everyone. To much booze to much drugs and to much hormones have taken a toll on your already soft mind. Go blow a john to keep the cable on you fucking tired ass slag. You self righteous bitch where the fuck do get off judging anybody? My sensitivity stops at the end of my steel toed boot care to guess where I want to put it...anywhere that makes you scream out loud. And you dont have to worry about me being on your radar you fucking old has been/never was faggot in a dress im done with your wrinkle nasty ass. Now you can go fucking die somewhere, actually I hope its in a horrible car fire.
Oh yeah before I forget I hope you fucking catch AIDS and die.

Im done with you.


Dayum man LMBAO.. That was cold! :)

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 04:16 PM
Nice your a class act!
If CR told you to catch AIDS and die then take it up with him.
After trying to converse with in a civil manner im going to speak to you in a way you will understand.
Fuck you, you hateful nasty souless, dried up husk of a person. You hate yourself so much that you have to project your hate on to everything and everyone. To much booze to much drugs and to much hormones have taken a toll on your already soft mind. Go blow a john to keep the cable on you fucking tired ass slag. You self righteous bitch where the fuck do get off judging anybody? My sensitivity stops at the end of my steel toed boot care to guess where I want to put it...anywhere that makes you scream out loud. And you dont have to worry about me being on your radar you fucking old has been/never was faggot in a dress im done with your wrinkle nasty ass. Now you can go fucking die somewhere, actually I hope its in a horrible car fire.
Oh yeah before I forget I hope you fucking catch AIDS and die.

Im done with you.
OMG. Thank you! It's about time! I knew you had to cave in sooner or later, you spineless square-dancing KKK faggot! Spoken like a true woman-hating homo. Because whenever a faggot gets intimidated by a woman, they call her a "slut", and whenever a faggot gets intimidated by a tranny, they call her a "man". Guess what? The more you talked, the more you proved all my points. Number one, you are a redneck. You came here to defend your white trash boyfriend, and to defend Arnie the black-hating racist. IRL you pack of cowardly homos would shit your panties if your pickup truck got a flat in East Orange.

And that was my other point. You're a virgin and a latent homosexual. That signature of yours speaks volumes. You know nothing about women, and never will at this rate. You'd better stick to BROmances with the other gay old men at a Def Leppard reunion concert.

If Sean Penn ever met you IRL, he'd punch your racist buck teeth right down your corndog-eating throat. Die asap. I hope you get hit by a car in the front row of a Nascar event. I hope the jack breaks and decapitates you when you're changing your oil. I hope a black dude caps you, and rapes your white trash whore of a mama. And I hope you get reincarnated and it all happens AGAIN. Die, die slowly, die painfully, and then die some more. Oh, did I mention you dying and me pissing on your grave? Suicide and you; perfect together. Dead; it's the other white meat.

FistFuk
10-04-2011, 04:47 PM
I thought his original forum ID was an Irish dork, strung out on truck stop speed and cruising the forum around the clock trying to make "friends". He could be an Irish hillbilly. . .

I'm 100% convinced this is the return of Nightranger, or tightrider, or whatever his name was. If ignoring him won't work, I suppose we'll have to start hurting him again.

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 04:49 PM
*smfh Well, by the looks of his av, he went offline and is now reporting back to his BF on Vicki's forum. It's not unlike a secret meeting in a tree fort I assume, except everyone is a white adult latent homosexual, which would almost be kinky if it wasn't so damn sad.

What the hell is wrong with Vicki lately anyway? I mean, I knew she liked Star Wars and Birkenstocks, but I never heard her mention square-dancing or Nascar. She's really changed if she tolerates this guy.

SirCumsAlot
10-04-2011, 04:50 PM
Asian and brazilian porn cant ever go boring

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 04:53 PM
I thought his original forum ID was an Irish dork, strung out on truck stop speed and cruising the forum around the clock trying to make "friends". He could be an Irish hillbilly. . .

I'm 100% convinced this is the return of Nightranger, or tightrider, or whatever his name was. If ignoring him won't work, I suppose we'll have to start hurting him again.
Honda, I don't think you have the right guy. NightRanger was Irish. This guy eats possum pie and yodels. He was on HD before Seanchai bought it I think. I dunno. But he's bad news. Personally, I hope you pull an Iron Chef ninja move on him, and ram a wok down his throat.

FistFuk
10-04-2011, 04:58 PM
I have no idea what she's doing. I sent her an email a few months ago, and she didn't respond. End of story.

lisaparadise
10-04-2011, 05:18 PM
Nice your a class act!
If CR told you to catch AIDS and die then take it up with him.
After trying to converse with in a civil manner im going to speak to you in a way you will understand.
Fuck you, you hateful nasty souless, dried up husk of a person. You hate yourself so much that you have to project your hate on to everything and everyone. To much booze to much drugs and to much hormones have taken a toll on your already soft mind. Go blow a john to keep the cable on you fucking tired ass slag. You self righteous bitch where the fuck do get off judging anybody? My sensitivity stops at the end of my steel toed boot care to guess where I want to put it...anywhere that makes you scream out loud. And you dont have to worry about me being on your radar you fucking old has been/never was faggot in a dress im done with your wrinkle nasty ass. Now you can go fucking die somewhere, actually I hope its in a horrible car fire.
Oh yeah before I forget I hope you fucking catch AIDS and die.

Im done with you.listen asshole it must be nice to hide behind your pc where nobody knows who you are and tell people you hope they die like what are you 2? if you cant play nie on the internet then get off it and grow the fuck up.

lisaparadise
10-04-2011, 05:21 PM
I thought his original forum ID was an Irish dork, strung out on truck stop speed and cruising the forum around the clock trying to make "friends". He could be an Irish hillbilly. . .

I'm 100% convinced this is the return of Nightranger, or tightrider, or whatever his name was. If ignoring him won't work, I suppose we'll have to start hurting him again.how the hell would you know that when you just joined? I.P check:yayo:

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 05:41 PM
listen asshole it must be nice to hide behind your pc where nobody knows who you are and tell people you hope they die like what are you 2? if you cant play nie on the internet then get off it and grow the fuck up.

There's nothing wrong with me. Like, for starters, I can spell words and form sentences. lol

Anyway, he learned that from Pink Raider, Vicki's head mod. They all do a circle jerk with their Molly Hatchet 8 tracks playing in the background, and hate on anyone who's not a closeted white southern gay male who owns a pickup. And of course Vicki is off limits because she's Fag Raider's make-believe GF.

Just look at this, and prepare to puke. It's alcoholic redneck mullet-rock, and this is what they do their homo-erotic male bonding to. Is this gross or what? Grown men should not behave like this. I'm sorry.

Molly Hatchet Flirting With Disaster (Live DVD) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt0Lrs_yhMI)


http://hilariousgifs.com/wp-content/gifs/ppl/barfbarf.gif

FistFuk
10-04-2011, 07:24 PM
Ip check would go back to Minneapolis. I'm now adding "I am Hondarobot" to my sig line to avoid confusion.

Long story why I had to change my log in.

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 07:50 PM
Honda's been on shemale porn forums for years, Lisa. He was on Monica's forum too. He must be one of HA's original members. He was around for megabody, geekmeat aka solitary brother, yourdaddy, nick the quick, chefmike, etc.

My profile isn't my original one either. I joined this place when I was getting sick of doing drag, in like '03 or '04. That was when Danielle was Holly Graham I think. lol I think I joined Vicki's forum in '04 actually. I actually joined this site looking for a BF who would accept a DQ transitioning into a TS. How's that for gullible? lol I joined this, thought it sucked and left, and then found out that people I knew from Pixel were here. lol I think I turned Hara on to this place.

That's why you shocked me when you accused me of being Schimmel, Lisa. Why would I fuck with you? I don't fuck with anyone unless they fuck with me first. I actually got along with tsbrenda years ago FFS, until he kept trying to give crazy medical advice and I finally called him out on it. lol

runningdownthatdream
10-04-2011, 08:02 PM
Honda's been on shemale porn forums for years, Lisa. He was on Monica's forum too. He must be one of HA's original members. He was around for megabody, geekmeat aka solitary brother, yourdaddy, nick the quick, chefmike, etc.

My profile isn't my original one either. I joined this place when I was getting sick of doing drag, in like '03 or '04. That was when Danielle was Holly Graham I think. lol I think I joined Vicki's forum in '04 actually. I actually joined this site looking for a BF who would accept a DQ transitioning into a TS. How's that for gullible? lol I joined this, thought it sucked and left, and then found out that people I knew from Pixel were here. lol I think I turned Hara on to this place.

That's why you shocked me when you accused me of being Schimmel, Lisa. Why would I fuck with you? I don't fuck with anyone unless they fuck with me first. I actually got along with tsbrenda years ago FFS, until he kept trying to give crazy medical advice and I finally called him out on it. lol

.....don't forget J/Allanah/BrickCityBrotherEcstatic and so many others who used to post with such insight even if in Mega's case it was over the top. It seemed then that most of the posters were living the life and not just fetishizing/fantasizing about it. I remember when you joined - you took some heat but I don't think you gave back in quite the same way as you do today ;)

BellaBellucci
10-04-2011, 08:03 PM
I think I turned Hara on to this place.

It was yoooooooooooou! :lol:

~BB~

FistFuk
10-04-2011, 08:03 PM
I'm correcting something: I was never a member of a Monica forum.

Vicki Richter
Hung Angels
Hung Devils

That's it for forums, mostly. I briefly joined Tranny Masters to attack Steven awhile back, but I was quickly banned. Lol.

I was a member of Jessie's forum for a few days, years ago, but I think I made two posts before nonsense distracted me elsewhere.

Now you know. . . the rest of the story. heh

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 08:16 PM
I thought you were on TGTalk, Honda. That was Monica's. No?

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 08:19 PM
Oh, yeah. I forgot about J. I liked him. He was attractive as I remember too. I might have had sex with him a few years ago, and didn't even realize it was him. lol

FistFuk
10-04-2011, 08:22 PM
I'm trying to enjoy some lunch here. . .

No, I have never joined, visited, or posted on a Monica forum. I think Monica seems pretty cool, actually, but I had no reason to join her sites/forums.

runningdownthatdream
10-04-2011, 08:25 PM
Oh, yeah. I forgot about J. I liked him. He was attractive as I remember too. I might have had sex with him a few years ago, and didn't even realize it was him. lol

I'll leave it up to you to determine his attractiveness but I remember he had this hilarious picture as his avatar of him crouching on top of a wardrobe!

in those days the mods were often here which I think kept some of the nastier shit out of the boards. I don't recall a lot of racist shit - black or white - being thrown about. And the shit thrown at the girls were mostly about some of them having shitty attitudes and treating guys like ATMs. Also there were cliques of people that were friends IRL - especially the NYC crowd.

And.....seems a lot more girls actually came here to interact rather than promote.

FistFuk
10-04-2011, 08:27 PM
J? Was he that looney accountant guy that flipped out when I told him to "sit at the kids table"?

Lol

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 08:32 PM
I'm trying to enjoy some lunch here. . .

No, I have never joined, visited, or posted on a Monica forum. I think Monica seems pretty cool, actually, but I had no reason to join her sites/forums.
Ok. Then I stand corrected.

Nicole Dupre
10-04-2011, 08:44 PM
I'll leave it up to you to determine his attractiveness but I remember he had this hilarious picture as his avatar of him crouching on top of a wardrobe!

in those days the mods were often here which I think kept some of the nastier shit out of the boards. I don't recall a lot of racist shit - black or white - being thrown about. And the shit thrown at the girls were mostly about some of them having shitty attitudes and treating guys like ATMs. Also there were cliques of people that were friends IRL - especially the NYC crowd.

And.....seems a lot more girls actually came here to interact rather than promote.
Yourdaddy was actually banned for saying off the wall racist shit to Allanah. He was a prick.

And the girls did indeed come here more to interact than promote. The girls who started trying to jump on the gravy train all came long AFTER Vicki, and even after Allanah and Gia. The current crop now consist of many transbians it seems like. I dunno.But I think Vicki was the first TS to post here regularly. This forum was sorta based around Edelweiss (which was the Manhattan Meat Packing strolls taken indoors), Ina's Silver Swan, Gloria Wholesome's parties, and of course Boy Bar, Lucky Cheng's, even Wigstock, etc. Manhattan and Stonewall laid a lot of the groundwork for what's now the US "tranny scene".

lisaparadise
10-05-2011, 03:54 AM
Honda's been on shemale porn forums for years, Lisa. He was on Monica's forum too. He must be one of HA's original members. He was around for megabody, geekmeat aka solitary brother, yourdaddy, nick the quick, chefmike, etc.

My profile isn't my original one either. I joined this place when I was getting sick of doing drag, in like '03 or '04. That was when Danielle was Holly Graham I think. lol I think I joined Vicki's forum in '04 actually. I actually joined this site looking for a BF who would accept a DQ transitioning into a TS. How's that for gullible? lol I joined this, thought it sucked and left, and then found out that people I knew from Pixel were here. lol I think I turned Hara on to this place.

That's why you shocked me when you accused me of being Schimmel, Lisa. Why would I fuck with you? I don't fuck with anyone unless they fuck with me first. I actually got along with tsbrenda years ago FFS, until he kept trying to give crazy medical advice and I finally called him out on it. lolhuh?i doubt i ever thought you were schimmel why would you even think that?

lisaparadise
10-05-2011, 03:55 AM
I'm correcting something: I was never a member of a Monica forum.

Vicki Richter
Hung Angels
Hung Devils

That's it for forums, mostly. I briefly joined Tranny Masters to attack Steven awhile back, but I was quickly banned. Lol.

I was a member of Jessie's forum for a few days, years ago, but I think I made two posts before nonsense distracted me elsewhere.

Now you know. . . the rest of the story. hehyou attacked steven?lol fuckin britts the checks in the mail lol

FistFuk
10-05-2011, 04:15 AM
LOL

I've attacked him on forums several times, he always wins though (because he has more money).

I have no interest in attacking him here again, because he could summon The Ban Hammer, and I'm not stupid.

;P

lisaparadise
10-05-2011, 04:21 AM
LOL

I've attacked him on forums several times, he always wins though (because he has more money).

I have no interest in attacking him here again, because he could summon The Ban Hammer, and I'm not stupid.

;Phe has no power here,i know this cause bella would be gone lol

Willie Escalade
10-05-2011, 04:25 AM
Shemale porn "might" be boring...but this forum sure isn't!

SXFX
10-05-2011, 04:31 AM
Sadly there just isn't enough honest amateur stuff floating around.
No videos any way

FistFuk
10-05-2011, 04:33 AM
Live and let live (which I say because I'm honestly at the wrong side of the gun here).

;)

Nicole Dupre
10-05-2011, 08:26 AM
The reason it's boring is, it's all supply and nowhere near enough demand. This isn't the gay scene. There are no weekend-long tranny orgies with meth being smoked, and rich dudes being fucked and beaten and shit on. This is something you jerked off to on your lunch break. If your wife finds out, you're in trouble. This is hetero CDs on birth control wanting porn careers. This is bottom shelf FAGGOTRY. Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

steeveX
10-05-2011, 11:41 AM
Shemale porn is dead as a doornail. It's no-tits pale tattoed transbians doing prOn for themselves rather than for an audience I suppose. The only people still claiming it is something are those desperately hanging in bc they need the (dwindling) cash.

Evil Angel, Joey Silvera used to put out high quality stuff that was able to crossover into the straight market. If it wasn't for the hotties still coming out of mostly Brazil, I would have left this scene long ago already. Vaniity, Vicki Richter, Gia Darling, they were great. Those being hyped today? To each their own, but not my bag.

BigDF
10-05-2011, 11:47 AM
Shemale porn "might" be boring...but this forum sure isn't!You are certainly right about that, Willie, it's fun just watching all the posts back and forth. :dancing:

Nicole Dupre
10-05-2011, 02:07 PM
There are a few that slip between the cracks in regards to tattoos. But I never even considered MYSELF to be suited for porn until Tony Vee contacted me years ago to do this. I was thinking I'd do Suicide Girls after I got SRS. They were going to shoot me when I got tits, until I confessed that I was TS.

But I am only even aware of Shemaleyum and all of this madness because Tony wrote me. I originally wanted no part of ANY of this, until I found myself needing an extra few hundred bucks after moving to FL. I'm far more a product of the Manhattan drag scene than I am any shemale porn bandwagon jumper. That's why I will NEVER plant myself in LA just to make the content rounds. I don't like LA, and I don't like most trannys, especially the younger transbians who just seem like bored suburban dudes. lol But I didn't come to this being in awe of anyone, other than maybe Vaniity and Miriam for their sheer beauty. And I knew Allanah and Gia must've somewhat had their roots more in the same world that I come from. I admire almost no one doing TS porn. The M2F goddesses I lived for are Chanel Dupree, Jenny Hiloudaki, Coccinelle, Tandi Andrews, Erika Andrews, etc. Screw this horseshit "biz". lol

buckjohnson
10-05-2011, 03:13 PM
Porn mimics life. Life is boring.

SirCumsAlot
10-05-2011, 07:09 PM
Porn mimics life. Life is boring.

your life is boring... Life is what u make out of it

SirCumsAlot
10-05-2011, 07:17 PM
This is something you jerked off to on your lunch break

I usually jerk off to it before breakfast

LibertyHarkness
10-05-2011, 07:46 PM
natural progression in fans of ts porn always happens though ... as you lose people that lose interest you are always gaining new people as people get older etc ...the consumer base for TS material is steadily increasing ,, though its not directly increasing inregards to profits for companies as it hedges off with people dropping off .. hence why so much older TS porn DVDs, still sell amazingly well as new people to the niche havnt seen it before .

ghbryans1
10-05-2011, 09:01 PM
The real problem is that so much of it is obviously contrived. There's the odd gem there, but most of it is just business, looks like business, and is there anyone in the world who thinks business is sexy? It's over lit, poorly performed, and generally poorly thought out.

Also, who the hell other than a pro who's being paid or someone on happy pills will smile during sex or before they are about to indulge? It's not just t-porn, but the industry in general. Too many hacks in it for a quick buck.

Apologies to the likes of Joanna Jet, Tara, etc.

SXFX
10-05-2011, 09:12 PM
What i don't get is that with all these cheap cameras there are very few if any real amateur videos out there!

FistFuk
10-06-2011, 12:40 AM
This thread has grown to over twenty pages/ 200 replies!? I'm not reading all that, so if my post contains info that someone has already posted, I apologize.

The problem is that the free tube sites and file sharing are ruining porn as it is now, so for porn to be interesting/profitable tactics have to be changed. Live cams are making money, but where the real goldmine would be is in selling a community. A good site that included live chats, member forums, a reasonable subscription price, and was updated daily (yes daily) would be the jackpot. Whatever anyone says, maintaining a web site is not hard work. It just requires creativity and dedication.

This forum see's nearly 3000 people a day log in. I bet a large number of people would pay $10/month if the forums remained lively, some live chats/cams were going on, and "Bulges and Filled Underwear" had regular, quality updates. That's $360,000/year gross income, just from subscriptions.

If one girl, or a small group of girls, put some effort forward, a fun, dynamic site is the way to go.

Beyond that, more interesting video projects are in the works, as far as I know. Tara Emory has a science fiction project in the works (Uranus Needs Shemale), Joanna is probably got something awesome in the works, and there's lots of amazing new girls coming into the biz.

The big mystery to me is: apparently Danielle Foxxx has moved to Brazil. She's a multi-threat talent. Acting, performing, camera work, post production, make-up, etc. If she hasn't teamed up with some of the girls in South America (most notably Nikki Montero), I would be shocked. That would be a powerhouse combination and would make this previous "Golden Age Of Porn" look like the stone age.

Nicole Dupre
10-06-2011, 01:43 AM
This thread has grown to over twenty pages/ 200 replies!? I'm not reading all that, so if my post contains info that someone has already posted, I apologize.

The problem is that the free tube sites and file sharing are ruining porn as it is now, so for porn to be interesting/profitable tactics have to be changed. Live cams are making money, but where the real goldmine would be is in selling a community. A good site that included live chats, member forums, a reasonable subscription price, and was updated daily (yes daily) would be the jackpot. Whatever anyone says, maintaining a web site is not hard work. It just requires creativity and dedication.

This forum see's nearly 3000 people a day log in. I bet a large number of people would pay $10/month if the forums remained lively, some live chats/cams were going on, and "Bulges and Filled Underwear" had regular, quality updates. That's $360,000/year gross income, just from subscriptions.

If one girl, or a small group of girls, put some effort forward, a fun, dynamic site is the way to go.

Beyond that, more interesting video projects are in the works, as far as I know. Tara Emory has a science fiction project in the works (Uranus Needs Shemale), Joanna is probably got something awesome in the works, and there's lots of amazing new girls coming into the biz.

The big mystery to me is: apparently Danielle Foxxx has moved to Brazil. She's a multi-threat talent. Acting, performing, camera work, post production, make-up, etc. If she hasn't teamed up with some of the girls in South America (most notably Nikki Montero), I would be shocked. That would be a powerhouse combination and would make this previous "Golden Age Of Porn" look like the stone age.
Both the girls and the shooters are all mostly scumbags, who are in it for the perks and easy money, and no one wants to invest a dime into real ideas. And that, btw, is exactly why I would never share any of mine. I have pages and pages of dialogue, camera angles, scene ideas, etc. Some very unique and potentially great stuff. But everyone is basically a lazy and scummy thief, and no one can really be trusted, sadly. There's really no artist's work ethic to be found in this bullshit. People slap together total shit left and right. And on top of being lazy, no one has a clue what guys find both entertaining AND masturbation worthy. And ya know what? If they're that clueless, they all DESERVE to FAIL. Fuck 'em. Let the whole industry tank. There are only a handful of decent people in it anyway, and I'm sure they'll figure out something better to do with their lives if they haven't already.

FistFuk
10-06-2011, 03:48 AM
You have every reason to be upset. I've worked in the nightclub biz for most of my life, I know about liars and scumbags. I deal with them everyday.

But that's part of the job. I'm sure people working road construction dislike dirt. You don't have to like it, it's just there. You can't build a road without getting dirty.

;)

Nicole Dupre
10-06-2011, 04:15 AM
You have every reason to be upset. I've worked in the nightclub biz for most of my life, I know about liars and scumbags. I deal with them everyday.

But that's part of the job. I'm sure people working road construction dislike dirt. You don't have to like it, it's just there. You can't build a road without getting dirty.

;)
No. I'm not bothering with these people. I don't have to deal with them unless I want to deal with shemale porn. But I'm not interested in doing shemale porn, so I couldn't care less. I won't be missed anyway. We all know that. I was blackballed years ago. I was also violated physically. But let me just shut up now. I'm getting nauseous. I'm going to bed now. Good night.

FistFuk
10-06-2011, 04:38 AM
OK, good night.

Helvis2012
10-06-2011, 05:06 AM
Sometimes

FistFuk
10-06-2011, 05:10 AM
Shut up, I'm trying make time with Kayden Harley.

SirCumsAlot
10-06-2011, 04:10 PM
Both the girls and the shooters are all mostly scumbags, who are in it for the perks and easy money, and no one wants to invest a dime into real ideas. And that, btw, is exactly why I would never share any of mine. I have pages and pages of dialogue, camera angles, scene ideas, etc. Some very unique and potentially great stuff. But everyone is basically a lazy and scummy thief, and no one can really be trusted, sadly. There's really no artist's work ethic to be found in this bullshit. People slap together total shit left and right. And on top of being lazy, no one has a clue what guys find both entertaining AND masturbation worthy. And ya know what? If they're that clueless, they all DESERVE to FAIL. Fuck 'em. Let the whole industry tank. There are only a handful of decent people in it anyway, and I'm sure they'll figure out something better to do with their lives if they haven't already.

If u think u have such some great ideas to improve shemale porn why dont u take your ideas to television studios rather than internet, like showtime or HBO? Never know until u pursue... I dont know if they still air porn nowadays on tv now that we're in the internet ages, but they used to show a little tgirl porn back in the day but it was nothing too hardcore. Just a thought

needsum
10-06-2011, 04:14 PM
If u think u have such some great ideas to improve shemale porn why dont u take your ideas to television studios rather than internet, like showtime or HBO? Never know until u pursue... I dont know if they still air porn nowadays on tv now that we're in the internet ages, but they used to show a little tgirl porn back in the day but it was nothing too hardcore. Just a thought

Starz has been playing the shit out of "Ticked off Trannies with Knives" and its a pretty great movie. If I had the guts and the ability and knowhow, I'd approach one of these companies and give it a shot. Who knows-- maybe some TS softcore would be a welcomed addition to the "Skinimax" lineups...

SirCumsAlot
10-06-2011, 04:47 PM
Starz has been playing the shit out of "Ticked off Trannies with Knives" and its a pretty great movie. If I had the guts and the ability and knowhow, I'd approach one of these companies and give it a shot. Who knows-- maybe some TS softcore would be a welcomed addition to the "Skinimax" lineups...

Honestly man its not that hard, well, at least contacting studios aint that hard. If you go on there site Im sure they have some kind of contact info were you can contact someone. It may not be some head ceo or someone, it might be someone like a HR person, but they can get you the inside people you need if you really have an idea that'll make money and ratings. You just need to make sure you make a good first impression, whether it be via email or phone call, and you present yourself and your ideas good, and oh yeah, a good lawyer. With emails and computers keeping records and crap, its almost hard for them to steal your idea without you not getting any profit, but u may still want to look up more info on that part yourself because there's alot involved in stuff like that such as contracts and stuff I'm not too familiar with yet.

Nikka
10-06-2011, 06:36 PM
franklin is a virgin

the tags hahaha

SammiValentine
10-06-2011, 06:44 PM
lool nikka skype me up biaatch yeeeeeea yeeeeeeeeeea xx

Nicole Dupre
10-06-2011, 11:51 PM
If u think u have such some great ideas to improve shemale porn why dont u take your ideas to television studios rather than internet, like showtime or HBO? Never know until u pursue... I dont know if they still air porn nowadays on tv now that we're in the internet ages, but they used to show a little tgirl porn back in the day but it was nothing too hardcore. Just a thought
? I don't care about porn, period. Or at least, not so much that I'm going to chase after anyone to get things done. I'm not moving to LA, and no one seems to shoot consistently in the NYC area. I asked Isa who she's got around here, and all she has is some dude living in Bayonne, in the army reserve or some shit, who leaves town for months at a time. I was supposed to go to SMC actually. But oh yeah. She has Jasmine; Morgan's and Ashley's buddy. Well Jasmine's a total scumbag. A total fuck-job artist. So that's out. And I'm not squeezing in shoots with that army dude in between his tours of duty or whatever the fuck he does. At this point, I've spent thousands traveling to towns to do shoots with people who flake out and don't shoot anything when they say they will. I have a long list of time-wasting assholes. So no. Unless someone wants to come HERE, and they're not a COMPLETE FLAKE, I don't give a shit. I'm no masochist. I'm not desperate. Fuck. I won't even cam. I cammed PLENTY before there was a ceiling in what you could charge, and I got sick of it. I'm not overexposing myself on someone else's pay scale. I charge what I want, when I want to. That's that. I mean, I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE having sex. I love fucking. I could fuck all day, and often do. But what's been the problem with that being good enough so far? I'm here. I look the same as I always have, basically. If anything I've had a few pumping sessions and my ass looks better than ever.

But I don't care about porn. My sex life is better than any porn film I'm seeing. I'm genuinely kinky and love sex. I mean it when I have sex. I have no need for false validation. People want their asses kissed in this industry I guess. Or it sure seems that way. Well I don't kiss ass. I respect people who respect me. You fuck me over, and you're on my shit list. What can I say? Is any of this that important? lol

There are some trannys doing porn who are ok. I'll admit that. But I can't relate to them or their goals. I don't care about porn popularity; just money. And I just don't see money in porn. Not for the girls anyway. They all suck dick to survive; let's not kid ourselves. I don't care whether it's being advertised on Eros or not. Deals are struck up. I've done lots of things without advertising. I've exchanged services. And I like doing things like that. :)

I want SRS soon. I want to get my pussy fucked. Between now and then, if someone has an offer to make, let them make it. If not, I'm quite content with my life as it is. I only watch straight porn anyway, very irregularly. Porn is not my passion. I don't need porn to fuck my brains out or get my brains fucked out. So, what's in it for me? An AVN award? lol Who gives a rat's ass? lol And fuck handing ideas over to Starz and Cinemax. lol If I wanted to act, I'd start studying it again and pounding the pavement. I studied acting in college for a while, and I enjoyed it. And that's what acting requires; some passion and desire. But I chose fine art and tattooing. I have no regrets either. But porn's not an acting career, although acting talent could be helpful for porn. lol

Anyway... what was the question? lol

Nicole Dupre
10-07-2011, 12:23 AM
Oh yeah. And I've lost a good 20 lbs since about a year ago. My dad being in the hospital for so long was causing me to spend FAR to much time with my Sicilian family, who LOVE to cook extremely delicious and FATTENING foods. But that's not what's going on these days. The extra weight's gone. :-D

Silcc69
10-07-2011, 12:25 AM
Oh yeah. And I've lost a good 20 lbs since about a year ago. My dad being in the hospital for so long was causing me to spend FAR to much time with my Sicilian family, who LOVE to cook extremely delicious and FATTENING foods. But that's not what's going on these days. The extra weight's gone. :-D

LOL sounds yummy I would love to try some of that Sicilian food.

Nicole Dupre
10-07-2011, 12:37 AM
LOL sounds yummy I would love to try some of that Sicilian food.
Let's face it. There's lot's of Italian food in the mix too, and it's ALL good. For instance, Christmas Eve and Christmas in our household, there is more GREAT food than we all can eat in one sitting. It's insane. We give it away to people. And my mom barely eats it herself. She's thin as rail. lol

But my god. Every meal you get on a plate is at least 3 times bigger than what I would consider eating on my own. Even if it's not Italian food; if it's filet mignon, there's at least 2 lbs available to anyone sitting down. And there's always good wine, and there's always dessert. Food is a drug for Italians. Thank god I ran away from home when I was 15. lol

Silcc69
10-07-2011, 12:49 AM
Let's face it. There's lot's of Italian food in the mix too, and it's ALL good. For instance, Christmas Eve and Christmas in our household, there is more GREAT food than we all can eat in one sitting. It's insane. We give it away to people. And my mom barely eats it herself. She's thin as rail. lol

But my god. Every meal you get on a plate is at least 3 times bigger than what I would consider eating on my own. Even if it's not Italian food; if it's filet mignon, there's at least 2 lbs available to anyone sitting down. And there's always good wine, and there's always dessert. Food is a drug for Italians. Thank god I ran away from home when I was 15. lol

Got damn it I was tryin to loose weight myself not gain it back. :ignore:

natina
10-07-2011, 01:02 AM
yea!
all they do is fuck people in the ass or do oral

WE DON'T NEED NO MORE TOM BORE oops I mean tom moor

I NEED CONTENT.STORIES ,TRUE EMOTION AND A PLOT

OH AND ALSO SOME RESIDUALS/BACK END MONEY DEAL ( AS FAR AS PAY IS CONCERNED)

stick two dicks in some ones ass and now there prostate comes alive and they will have a hard on and cum

Nicole Dupre
10-07-2011, 02:41 AM
yea!
all they do is fuck people in the ass or do oral

WE DON'T NEED NO MORE TOM BORE oops I mean tom moor

I NEED CONTENT.STORIES ,TRUE EMOTION AND A PLOT

OH AND ALSO SOME RESIDUALS/BACK END MONEY DEAL ( AS FAR AS PAY IS CONCERNED)

stick two dicks in some ones ass and now there prostate comes alive and they will have a hard on and cum
We need to shoot you out of a canon, right up Godzilla's asshole. But we'll Krazy Glue a rubber Bozo mask to your face, and that way he'll be protected from brain syphilis, which you're obviously suffering from. That, to me, would be "must see" safe sex porn.

Nicole Dupre
10-07-2011, 02:43 AM
Blue Oyster Cult - Godzilla - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8-Y-fIbqM)

Nicole Dupre
10-07-2011, 02:47 AM
BAD BOZO - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1f4rawU_38)

Bobby Domino
10-07-2011, 02:52 AM
We need to shoot you out of a canon, right up Godzilla's asshole. But we'll Krazy Glue a rubber Bozo mask to your face, and that way he'll be protected from brain syphilis, which you're obviously suffering from. That, to me, would be "must see" safe sex porn.

:dead::dead:Nicole, you've been killing it on the thread. God bless!!:dead::dead:

runningdownthatdream
10-07-2011, 06:32 AM
We need to shoot you out of a canon, right up Godzilla's asshole. But we'll Krazy Glue a rubber Bozo mask to your face, and that way he'll be protected from brain syphilis, which you're obviously suffering from. That, to me, would be "must see" safe sex porn.

I think I may have just experienced my first orgasm due to laughter - thanks!

Tania_Harvey
10-07-2011, 12:24 PM
Nicole in her 70's

Now thats anything BUT boring.

MdR Dave
10-07-2011, 04:14 PM
No.

Wow.

Just no.

Silcc69
10-07-2011, 04:22 PM
Oh boy I have a feeling all hell is about to break loose.

SirCumsAlot
10-07-2011, 04:43 PM
I'm genuinely kinky and love sex.

Can I be your roommate? :fuckin:

SirCumsAlot
10-07-2011, 04:45 PM
Nicole in her 70's

Now thats anything BUT boring.

Minus the tattoos, thats you("tania") now...

lorddigitalhighfixer
10-11-2011, 12:54 PM
i wish pr0ns producers would shoot more is delicious tranny ass

everytime i see a vid it's maybe 30 seconds of god tier ass shots then 20 or so minutes of just lying on their back, watching something in the background and jerkin it.

girls should just shoot their own solo vids anyways and sell them to distributors and sites. rent a digital cam, pirate some editing software and watch the robert rodriguez 10 minute film school vid. find a trick in film school or another girl to hold the cam ^_^

YasminLee
10-12-2011, 08:48 PM
to the guy that's so tired of seeing me. it's one thing to praise girls in a place like this and another to project hate. this is a fragile community with the highest suicidal rate and guys that post anything hateful is a fucking duches. i'm not contract with TSseduction nor do I have personal relationship with the company or anyone from there..They are simply an amazing company, extremely professional and so when I find myself free I say yes to them. They do reach out for more models. This site likes to focus with the girls topping and there are just not many out there that can do it or do it well. At this point in my life porn is not my main income so I don't take the work unless the money is right, or the project presented is something i want to be a part of just to put in my resume. I never been a fan of solo for me, mainly because I enjoy sex and dolling up to play alone seems silly when I can just jack off at home anytime.

MdR Dave
10-12-2011, 09:09 PM
Don't pay him any attention, Ms Lee.

Franklin is a virgin, wears a sideways ballcap and can regularly be seen putting wigs on a football.

BellaBellucci
10-12-2011, 10:08 PM
to the guy that's so tired of seeing me. it's one thing to praise girls in a place like this and another to project hate. this is a fragile community with the highest suicidal rate and guys that post anything hateful is a fucking duches. i'm not contract with TSseduction nor do I have personal relationship with the company or anyone from there..They are simply an amazing company, extremely professional and so when I find myself free I say yes to them. They do reach out for more models. This site likes to focus with the girls topping and there are just not many out there that can do it or do it well. At this point in my life porn is not my main income so I don't take the work unless the money is right, or the project presented is something i want to be a part of just to put in my resume. I never been a fan of solo for me, mainly because I enjoy sex and dolling up to play alone seems silly when I can just jack off at home anytime.

Ignore him. Trust me: nearly everyone here loves you and is on your side. :)

Oh, and for the record, while we may be a fragile community, it's partly our own fault. We need to develop a thicker skin. That's why I'm so hard on some of the girls here. Sorry ladies.

~BB~

TSPornFan
11-06-2011, 02:37 AM
to the guy that's so tired of seeing me. it's one thing to praise girls in a place like this and another to project hate. this is a fragile community with the highest suicidal rate and guys that post anything hateful is a fucking duches. i'm not contract with TSseduction nor do I have personal relationship with the company or anyone from there..They are simply an amazing company, extremely professional and so when I find myself free I say yes to them. They do reach out for more models. This site likes to focus with the girls topping and there are just not many out there that can do it or do it well. At this point in my life porn is not my main income so I don't take the work unless the money is right, or the project presented is something i want to be a part of just to put in my resume. I never been a fan of solo for me, mainly because I enjoy sex and dolling up to play alone seems silly when I can just jack off at home anytime.

I am sick of you models bitching when someone criticizes you. Hell I didn't say anything bad about you. When I was a paying customer on that site I was sick of seeing you almost every month. It was nothing against you. TS Seduction does not film a lot of different women. If they do film someone new then that person is unlikely to be booked again or more than twice.

They reach out for more models? Really? On the main page I see 7 scenes and TWO feature YOU. Only one feature a brand new person in the business. Eva Lin is on the front page and had 3 scenes in 3 straight months. Most of the new girls on the sites aren't new in the business. TS Seduction was too cheap for years to book Vaniity and Khole Hart.

If you're annoyed by paying customers criticizing you then get out of the business. Saying a pornstar is a bad performer is not hateful. It's like saying a NFL player is not good at his job. Wake up kid and realize not everyone is going to praise your work. Honestly I liked most of your work but that does not mean that I want to see you all of the time.

There are many girls who top and TS Seduction has ignored them. Mariam, Jessica Fox, Sheba Starr, Nelly, Ashley George, Stephany, and so many more.

So this company is professional by banning any member who makes a complaint? Yes, that has been happening a lot in recent months. They maybe professional to their business partners but they treat their members like crap.

BellaBellucci
11-06-2011, 03:09 AM
I enjoy sex and dolling up to play alone seems silly when I can just jack off at home anytime.

Hottest. Comment. Ever!

Look me up if you ever go bi or lesbo. :fuckin: ;)

~BB~

BigDF
11-06-2011, 11:46 AM
I am sick of you models bitching when someone criticizes you. Hell I didn't say anything bad about you. When I was a paying customer on that site I was sick of seeing you almost every month. It was nothing against you. TS Seduction does not film a lot of different women. If they do film someone new then that person is unlikely to be booked again or more than twice.

They reach out for more models? Really? On the main page I see 7 scenes and TWO feature YOU. Only one feature a brand new person in the business. Eva Lin is on the front page and had 3 scenes in 3 straight months. Most of the new girls on the sites aren't new in the business. TS Seduction was too cheap for years to book Vaniity and Khole Hart.

If you're annoyed by paying customers criticizing you then get out of the business. Saying a pornstar is a bad performer is not hateful. It's like saying a NFL player is not good at his job. Wake up kid and realize not everyone is going to praise your work. Honestly I liked most of your work but that does not mean that I want to see you all of the time.

There are many girls who top and TS Seduction has ignored them. Mariam, Jessica Fox, Sheba Starr, Nelly, Ashley George, Stephany, and so many more.

So this company is professional by banning any member who makes a complaint? Yes, that has been happening a lot in recent months. They maybe professional to their business partners but they treat their members like crap.Franklin, we are all sick of of your bitching and whining on here about your opinion of the sorry state of pornography. Damn, man you need to get yourself laid and a life to boot. :dead::screwy

dderek123
11-06-2011, 12:05 PM
^ Yeah time to go outside. Too much internet is not good for you. I know from experience!