Would you date her publicly, and be open about her gender

[OmarZ]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/306364_287882024562541_100000222368999_1308605_438 505004_n.jpg

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Question for all you guys

[Paulistano]

Why not?...:)

[inthattrance]

Uh huh..

[timxxx]

If she's 100% passable the question of her gender would never arise.

[OmarZ]

If she's 100% passable the question of her gender would never arise.

does she not look 100% passable to you?

[NaughtyJane]

No matter who the girl is, people do discover she is 'different' in hetero-centric social circumstance.

I submit that this whole 100% passable thing is a myth, from someone neck deep in this scene their whole adult life.

In my life I go about my affairs striving for nothing more than being authentic in my nature, true to myself, my internal framework of expression about myself... Generally people are unaware of my 'difference'; but when they are aware of my difference, I am so casual, self assured, friendly and polite and very real- I never have encountered any hostility or social censure... once I figured out how not to be a cartoon of a female. Certainly the early days of all trans women's lives are awkward and comedic.

My point of view is I'd never date a man insecure about what might arise with me on the social frontier...

[Devilboy]

I'd have to see the rest of her, and get to know her a bit but if that was all good I'd have no problem at all. IMO there is no need to go proclaiming to everyone you meet that your girl is TG, but if it ever came up I'd have no problem with it. I don't really care what other people think- family included. If we were happy that's all that matters.....well, as long as she was down with the ball gag and ropes every now and then, if she wasn't, that would matter, but other than that it should all be good.

[Instrumental]

It would be very cold and inhumane to treat someone like a dirty secret. Of course I'd date her publicly and if bringing up her gender was relevant (and she was okay with me disclosing such information), sure I'd be open with it.

[archineer]

No matter who the girl is, people do discover she is 'different' in hetero-centric social circumstance.

I submit that this whole 100% passable thing is a myth, from someone neck deep in this scene their whole adult life.

In my life I go about my affairs striving for nothing more than being authentic in my nature, true to myself, my internal framework of expression about myself... Generally people are unaware of my 'difference'; but when they are aware of my difference, I am so casual, self assured, friendly and polite and very real- I never have encountered any hostility or social censure... once I figured out how not to be a cartoon of a female. Certainly the early days of all trans women's lives are awkward and comedic.

My point of view is I'd never date a man insecure about what might arise with me on the social frontier...

I disagree, I can think of a few who really do pass 100%. All Thai's/Phillipina's mind.

[archineer]

To the original poster- it all depends on the girl herself. Is she stealth?

[NaughtyJane]

I disagree, I can think of a few who really do pass 100%. All Thai's/Phillipina's mind.

And how many of those girls do you personally have access to, in a public everyday social sense, sir... ??

All lives are imperfect. Many of us strive to make them better. I suspect yours is made better via desire and observation, rather than actual experience.

[archineer]

And how many of those girls do you personally have access to, in a public everyday social sense, sir... ??

All lives are imperfect. Many of us strive to make them better. I suspect yours is made better via desire and observation, rather than actual experience.


Well i'm not sure what you actually mean, but I have 4 close personal friends who I would say fit the mould. There are others I know casually.

[BellaBellucci]

If she's 100% passable the question of her gender would never arise.

You guys are confusing physical sex and gender again. Her gender is female.

As far as passability, as long as one is mostly (naturally) feminine and/or very attractive, it's usually a non-issue, at least here in SoCal (even Orange County). It has nothing to do with percentages.

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

A friend who lives in the Philippines claims they're usually only passable in Western countries, because where they live, they're too tall to go unclocked.

[FreddieGomez]

but how does her voice sound?

[pkoonz2930]

The only right thing to do is to be completely open about everything, permitting there is a consensual understanding about what each of you is comfortable about.

These are the kinds of conversations that are important to have because if either person is not 100% committed to each other, the relationship is based on half-truths to begin with. Personally, if anyone were to ask me re: a relationship with a special woman, it's important to be up-front.


That is not to say there is anything wrong with admiring from the background - but if you take the leap of a fully committed relationship, it's all-or-nothing.


Just my take, have a great day everyone!

[archineer]

A friend who lives in the Philippines claims they're usually only passable in Western countries, because where they live, they're too tall to go unclocked.

True. But there are quite a few little ditty ones around 5'4" or so. And there are tall girls in asia too.

[archineer]

http://www.eros-london.com/files/187197.htm

I've only met her twice briefly, but she looks exactly the same in real life.

[BellaBellucci]

There was a study recently that determined that people find it more difficult to determine gender over cultural lines because they are less familiar with their 'norm.'

Cheers Norm - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO7wxfjbttc)

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

True. But there are quite a few little ditty ones around 5'4" or so. And there are tall girls in asia too.
My nail tech is 5'10", and she's Vietnamese.

[bighicknyc]

Now if one were lucky enough to have a ts whom you get along well with in bed and in the privitecy of your home why would you not want to be seen in public with her? Isn't it a huge part of a relationship holding hands and pinching butts in public?

[NaughtyJane]

OK, What I was politely trying to say when I stated that all trans women are noted at some point as 'different' in hetero-centric social, or professional life...that only the man spinning his wheels inexperienced in dating trans women would bother considering the fantasy of non detection. It happens to us all, usually with no consequence... except for a half heart man's insecurities. Caring more for his contrived social stance than his potential sex partner. If a suitor did that to me on a date... no drama, I'd excuse myself and simply disappear... I date men, not boys.

Go jerk off. This tenet is so ignorantly offensive... it is comedic.

No hostility, as I said before I'd never date a timid pussy boy with rocks for brains. I'd say the same thing to any guy's face, laugh and suggest he look up his companionship on the eros guide.

I'd further caution guys that most of us gals are expert at the behaviors men present to get up our skirts, we evolved in our world and paid dues you will never know. I am always surprised by a man that thinks I am naive, and he is smart or perhaps merely clever... most of us see you coming as well.

[archineer]

haha

I'm hardly a closet case. Nor am I going to post personal pics on this site.

[GentsPreferTS]

It's up to the girl. If she wants to be public about it, that's cool, if not, that's cool too. It's not the man's decision with this subject.

[south ov da border]

lady's choice. I will only talk about what she's comfortable with. I'm not worried about my rep/how I'll be treated. I'd be concerned about who she wants to be seen as and treat her as she likes...

[Bobby Domino]

Gender isn't a usual topic of conversation in most social circles. That's weird. And if asked, I'd refer to my TG GF as a female anyway. What if your BF/GF had 11 toes, big nipples or sickle-cell anemia would you yell it from the top of a mountain? No. Shit, she's gotta be seen with me, too. I call that even, lol!!!

[dderek123]

Yes I have. 'Tis fun.

[robertlouis]

No matter who the girl is, people do discover she is 'different' in hetero-centric social circumstance.

I submit that this whole 100% passable thing is a myth, from someone neck deep in this scene their whole adult life.

In my life I go about my affairs striving for nothing more than being authentic in my nature, true to myself, my internal framework of expression about myself... Generally people are unaware of my 'difference'; but when they are aware of my difference, I am so casual, self assured, friendly and polite and very real- I never have encountered any hostility or social censure... once I figured out how not to be a cartoon of a female. Certainly the early days of all trans women's lives are awkward and comedic.

My point of view is I'd never date a man insecure about what might arise with me on the social frontier...

Jane, straightforward and dignified common sense as always.

Any man who would not be comfortable with having a transgender girl on his arm simply doesn't deserve her.

[robertlouis]

You guys are confusing physical sex and gender again. Her gender is female.

As far as passability, as long as one is mostly (naturally) feminine and/or very attractive, it's usually a non-issue, at least here in SoCal (even Orange County). It has nothing to do with percentages.

~BB~

Thank you Bella. Yeesh, you guys. :(

[mtbazz]

I'd have no problem dating the girl in the OP publicly.

I could personally care less who sees me with whom, and who thinks what.

If someone wants to make judgements on me based on who I date, than they are not worth my time.

[Willie Escalade]

It's up to the girl. If she wants to be public about it, that's cool, if not, that's cool too. It's not the man's decision with this subject.


Gender isn't a usual topic of conversation in most social circles. That's weird. And if asked, I'd refer to my TG GF as a female anyway. What if your BF/GF had 11 toes, big nipples or sickle-cell anemia would you yell it from the top of a mountain? No. Shit, she's gotta be seen with me, too. I call that even, lol!!!
These are on point.
:iagree:

[daltx_m]

As long as she bends over and takes it in private, why not?

[Jericho]

A better question would be would you be open about her gender and date her publicly?
(and it's still a shite question). Question should be, would you date her publicly (period)!

[robertlouis]

A better question would be would you be open about her gender and date her publicly?
(and it's still a shite question). Question should be, would you date her publicly (period)!

I can hear cockhounds' brains exploding all over the universe..... :geek:

[Jericho]

I can hear cockhounds' brains exploding all over the universe..... :geek:
And when the last star goes down on Love Me Avenue, nawnawww naw nah na nawwwwww.....

[mealticket]

Need more pics, hard to tell how attractive she is from one pic, but i have dated a few girls who were 100 percent passable, beautiful and they didnt want my family to know about their past, so it is possible to find that kind of girl out there.

[Nicole Dupre]

"Passable" doesn't always mean "beautiful" anyway. There are passable trannys who are actually pretty homely. And tall, beautiful women always turn heads anyway. People will wonder if they're TS based on height when nothing else gave anyone any indication that she wasn't born with a vagina.

I think that guys who aren't much to look at, with any beautiful girl in public, are attracting more negative attention than the girl is. People always wonder things like "what the fuck is that gorgeous girl doing with that hideous midget?"

[suckshemalecock]

of course i would

[needsum]

why is this even a question? if you like her, find her beautiful, feel it in your heart that you want to be with her all the time, then you probably wouldn't even realize that she's "different", or if you do, I'm sure you wouldn't give 2 shits what anybody else thinks. if you do, then theres something wrong with you. If you love someone, nothing else matters. this is the thing I find so disturbing about this board. So many people look at TS women as "things" or "other than normal" to the point that they become these objects that require a self check to make sure that we're not gay for liking them or whatever other shit is streaming through the collective unconscience.

Seriously. If you love her, date her. dont' ask silly questions. Just do it.

[Silcc69]

but how does her voice sound?

Exactly she could be the most beautiful and passable girl on the earth, but sounding like a gay boi is not a good look.

[Paulistano]

...this is the thing I find so disturbing about this board. So many people look at TS women as "things" or "other than normal" to the point that they become these objects that require a self check to make sure that we're not gay for liking them or whatever other shit is streaming through the collective unconscience.

:iagree: Very good.

[Nicole Dupre]

The whole point of this forum is to enjoy us as sex objects. And I'm fine with that.

But then these anonymous semi-literate jerkoffs start bluffing about "not needing to pay for sex", and yada yada yada. Look, fools. You'd better hope that ANYONE believes you don't wear an eye patch and/or that you didn't lose a limb and/or you're taller than 5'5", when you come to a porn forum and never get past the "talk" stage". As far as I'm concerned, NONE of you are dating material or you wouldn't even be here. You must have something wrong with you, to brag about some life that you'll never have to prove you're living, on HA of all places. The real question is would we vomit if we actually saw your faces and bodies. Work on that, fellas, and then get back to us. Until then, who gives a shit what you "would" do.

[loveboof]

If you love her, date her. dont' ask silly questions. Just do it.

Yeah, this is exactly what I don't really understand about the question.

If you're in a normal relationship with a tgirl (ie going out for meals, cinema, meeting up with friends and family etc), then what difference does it make if they all know what her genitals look like?

What could possibly be gained by explaining to your grandparents that your new girlfriend was born a man - "We've been through this grandma, she was actually born with a penis..."

I don't really see how it could be anyone's business except the two people in the relationship. Why is it necessary to sit everyone down and explain it?

[OmarZ]

The whole point of this forum is to enjoy us as sex objects. And I'm fine with that.

But then these anonymous semi-literate jerkoffs start bluffing about "not needing to pay for sex", and yada yada yada. Look, fools. You'd better hope that ANYONE believes you don't wear an eye patch and/or that you didn't lose a limb and/or you're taller than 5'5", when you come to a porn forum and never get past the "talk" stage". As far as I'm concerned, NONE of you are dating material or you wouldn't even be here. You must have something wrong with you, to brag about some life that you'll never have to prove you're living, on HA of all places. The real question is would we vomit if we actually saw your faces and bodies. Work on that, fellas, and then get back to us. Until then, who gives a shit what you "would" do.

Its the soul and the character that matters.

[0utrageousss]

The whole point of this forum is to enjoy us as sex objects. And I'm fine with that.

But then these anonymous semi-literate jerkoffs start bluffing about "not needing to pay for sex", and yada yada yada. Look, fools. You'd better hope that ANYONE believes you don't wear an eye patch and/or that you didn't lose a limb and/or you're taller than 5'5", when you come to a porn forum and never get past the "talk" stage". As far as I'm concerned, NONE of you are dating material or you wouldn't even be here. You must have something wrong with you, to brag about some life that you'll never have to prove you're living, on HA of all places. The real question is would we vomit if we actually saw your faces and bodies. Work on that, fellas, and then get back to us. Until then, who gives a shit what you "would" do.

Please write a book on the topic, I live for your responses on here lol :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

[loveboof]

I live for your responses on here lol
Aww, are you two friends again?

:party:

[SirCumsAlot]

The whole point of this forum is to enjoy us as sex objects. And I'm fine with that.

But then these anonymous semi-literate jerkoffs start bluffing about "not needing to pay for sex", and yada yada yada. Look, fools. You'd better hope that ANYONE believes you don't wear an eye patch and/or that you didn't lose a limb and/or you're taller than 5'5", when you come to a porn forum and never get past the "talk" stage". As far as I'm concerned, NONE of you are dating material or you wouldn't even be here. You must have something wrong with you, to brag about some life that you'll never have to prove you're living, on HA of all places. The real question is would we vomit if we actually saw your faces and bodies. Work on that, fellas, and then get back to us. Until then, who gives a shit what you "would" do.

You need a very good blowjob right now

[giovanni_hotel]

Being on a porn forum equals 'LOSER'???

That's 99% of the male population, not talking about just TS porn either. Not everyone found HA looking to contact escorts. Some of us were looking for a site/forum that featured TS females. HA is the best of a very bad selection on the interwebz for such a place, unfortunately.

Assuming that EVERYONE on a porn forum is a slug is a terrible assumption.

Most the guys who come here don't even post. They look, read and leave. Come back the next day and do the same.

[Nicole Dupre]

Please write a book on the topic, I live for your responses on here lol :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
Who said "loser"? I said dating material. Sorry, but a man who's camped out on a porn forum every day has no bragging rights in terms of being beyond paying for anything. Guys with money pay for plenty. They pay us when you guys are busy dreaming. Which is fine. Many of you are friendly enough and show us respect. IO appreciate that. Not everyone can make over 100K a year and bang escorts any time they like. I don't hold it against you. Dennis Rodman has his lifestyle, and the guy who drives a bus has his. God bless them both.

But who you think is enjoying life more and is more successful? Say.... "Devilboy"? Bragging that he doesn't need to pay? Or say... Charlie Sheen, who basically gets what he wants, when he wants it? Would Charlie come here and say he doesn't have to pay? I somewhat doubt it. That's a miserable chaser's philosophy; not a man who knows that life's too short to let your ego write checks that your life can't cash. $.02

[Nicole Dupre]

Being on a porn forum equals 'LOSER'???

That's 99% of the male population, not talking about just TS porn either. Not everyone found HA looking to contact escorts. Some of us were looking for a site/forum that featured TS females. HA is the best of a very bad selection on the interwebz for such a place, unfortunately.

Assuming that EVERYONE on a porn forum is a slug is a terrible assumption.

Most the guys who come here don't even post. They look, read and leave. Come back the next day and do the same.
Who said "loser"? I said dating material. Sorry, but a man who's camped out on a porn forum every day has no bragging rights in terms of being beyond paying for anything. Guys with money pay for plenty. They pay us when you guys are busy dreaming. Which is fine. Many of you are friendly enough and show us respect. I appreciate that. Not everyone can make over 100K a year and bang escorts any time they like. I don't hold it against you. Dennis Rodman has his lifestyle, and the guy who drives a bus has his. God bless them both.

But who do you think is enjoying life more and is more successful? Say.... "Devilboy"? Bragging that he doesn't need to pay? Or say... Charlie Sheen, who basically gets what he wants, when he wants it? Would Charlie come here and say he doesn't have to pay? I somewhat doubt it. That's a miserable chaser's philosophy; not a man who knows that life's too short to let your ego write checks that your life can't cash. $.02

[Nicole Dupre]

You need a very good blowjob right now
Sure. I always enjoy serving someone my throbbing cock-hard cock. It's always on the menu, and always served with love, from my "kitchen" to your mouth. Open wide and say "aaaahhhhhh". Tips are greatly appreciated. Please come again. :)

[StlyeMeCunty]

Correction... her sex, not her gender. Our gender is female!!!! :)

[needsum]

The whole point of this forum is to enjoy us as sex objects. And I'm fine with that.

But then these anonymous semi-literate jerkoffs start bluffing about "not needing to pay for sex", and yada yada yada. Look, fools. You'd better hope that ANYONE believes you don't wear an eye patch and/or that you didn't lose a limb and/or you're taller than 5'5", when you come to a porn forum and never get past the "talk" stage". As far as I'm concerned, NONE of you are dating material or you wouldn't even be here. You must have something wrong with you, to brag about some life that you'll never have to prove you're living, on HA of all places. The real question is would we vomit if we actually saw your faces and bodies. Work on that, fellas, and then get back to us. Until then, who gives a shit what you "would" do.

I can see where Nicole is coming from. To be honest, I thought it a bit harsh and out of left field considering where this topic was heading, but nonetheless, not out of line by any means. I guess when you have a forum filled with working women who are interacting with guys who, for the most part, are not looking at "working with these women", but rather sitting back, watching from the safety of their computer, and then making judgements and asking questions that could very easily be considered rude to any of these women, things can get very tense quite quickly. I for one wouldn't want someone to sit around all day and make judgements and comments about me without ever having met me in person.

Having said that, I, for one, enjoy paying for sex. I don't do it because I have to, I do it because I WANT to. I have a fetish. I am the typical asshole who most women hate--the guy who is married but is always out looking for more. I accept that I'm this asshole and I run with it to an extent--I enjoy the rush of having sex with someone new and different. I don't do it all that often, as my cash flow is far different from a Tiger-blooded Sheen. As well, sites like this, where guys can interact with the girls they can play with are rare--most sites like Eros or Backpage, or Craigslist of old, are purely advertisements. There is a site similar to this for reviews of GG escorts and TS escorts, that is the same format as here--you can befriend these girls, interact with them, and cultivate some sort of pseudo "relationship" with them. As long as you keep your perspective and know that in the end, for them, its all about the benjamins, and for you, its all about the fix, then there shouldnt' be any problems.

Unfortunately, on both sides of this fence, there arent' too many who can keep it the fun, easy-going ideal that it should be. And here on HA, well shit, how can you even begin to sum this place up? Fuck, where do you even start?

I for one think I have been able to make that seperation very well. Because in the end, after I have soddomized Nicole good and proper, I know I'm walking away, having given her what she was after, and received what I wanted, and knowing she won't be aching to call me later to make small talk or beg me to come and cuddle. And we're both cool with that. ;)

[Nicole Dupre]

You guys can fantasize and theorize until you're blue in the face. But we've had more real life experiences with you than you'll ever have with us. "Those who say, don't know. And those who know, don't say." ;-)

[needsum]

and thats 100% cool with me. :)

[giovanni_hotel]

Why all the condescension and snarkiness??
Yeah you've had a 'type' of real life experience, but it's not exclusive or necessarily exceptional IMO.

Sometimes I think your take on the whole client/escort dynamic is severely distorted.
If it's enlightening, it wasn't on purpose but incidental.

It's not symbiotic. It's mutually parasitic.

You're seeing people IMO through a very narrow prism Nicole. Yes with laser clarity but it's still contracted.

[loveboof]

You guys can fantasize and theorize until you're blue in the face. But we've had more real life experiences with you than you'll ever have with us. "Those who say, don't know. And those who know, don't say." ;-)

Even if we don't have a clue what we're talking about, I don't see anything wrong with discussing a hypothetical scenario.

It could prove insightful in other ways.

[SirCumsAlot]

Sure. I always enjoy serving someone my throbbing cock-hard cock. It's always on the menu, and always served with love, from my "kitchen" to your mouth. Open wide and say "aaaahhhhhh". Tips are greatly appreciated. Please come again. :)

:) :jerkoff

[BellaBellucci]

What could possibly be gained by explaining to your grandparents that your new girlfriend was born a man - "We've been through this grandma, she was actually born with a penis..."


Really? I thought we were all born as gender-neutral and our parents chose our gender based on nothing more than our genitalia. Nobody is born a 'man.' Male, yes. A man, no.

You know who uses incorrect terminology like that? The Maury Povich Show. Hmm. :geek:

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Why all the condescension and snarkiness??
Yeah you've had a 'type' of real life experience, but it's not exclusive or necessarily exceptional IMO.

Sometimes I think your take on the whole client/escort dynamic is severely distorted.
If it's enlightening, it wasn't on purpose but incidental.

It's not symbiotic. It's mutually parasitic.

You're seeing people IMO through a very narrow prism Nicole. Yes with laser clarity but it's still contracted.
Didn't you just make an ass of yourself about a month ago, saying the reason men beat women to death is because we cut off their dicks and put them in garbage disposals? Like it's an epidemic? And then Dino said that Nicole Simpson had it coming, and "good for OJ. He stopped her in her tracks."

You guys tip your hands as maladjusted psychos constantly. And there's a pretty low percentage of any of you raising an eyebrow when someone else does. Me, you've got under a microscope. Pffft.

Don't worry about my perspective. It works just fine for me. Worry about how you blurted out something completely stupid to justify husbands beating their wives to death.

[Dino Velvet]

I know I don't know anything but I holler tons of gibberish while Punishing Percy. :jerkoff

[Nicole Dupre]

Familiarity breeds contempt.

You guys have these idealized ideas of the girls who never post here. But trust me. There are people in "the biz" who have far lower opinions of you than I do. You can bet your life on that.

[giovanni_hotel]

Way to twist a nothing comment into some manifesto about my attitude towards women.

Sorry, but if a emotionally disturbed woman cuts off her husband's penis and throws it down a garbage disposal because she can't deal with the thought of him divorcing her, most PEOPLE would think her husband should have done something to defend himself.
That's a normal, HUMAN gut level reaction.
It has nothing at all to do with men who habitually abuse women.

One story about one sick bitch. One comment in response. And suddenly what I 'really' mean was, 'the reason men beat women to death is because (you) cut off their dicks and put them in garbage disposals?'

That's deliberately twisted by you Nicole, not me.

It's ironic how much girls on this board talk down to guys in general, just as a matter of course. Yet girls are the first ones to complain about not being respected.

I'm maladjusted?? A psycho?? LOL.
Or do you mean 'maladjusted' because I'm on this board??

[Nicole Dupre]

I didn't put a gun yo your head and make you type it. Go back, read what you posted, and ask yourself what you were thinking. I'm not a mind reader. But saying that husbands should beat their wives to death for any reason is completely fucked up. You can spin it however you like.

[BellaBellucci]

Familiarity breeds contempt.

You guys have these idealized ideas of the girls who never post here. But trust me. There are people in "the biz" who have far lower opinions of you than I do. You can bet your life on that.

100% Grade-A Choice Truth.

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

There are some great guys here. Some are great guys much of the time. Some are lying through their teeth, acting like they're good guys. And some are basically just scumbags. Whatever category you gentlemen fit in is for you to know and me not to give a shit about. I'm just telling you that, by my standards, 99.99% of you are not dating material. I'm ok with a guy who checks out porn. That's not an issue foe me. But guys that create online personas, and spend so much time on forums like this, don't seem to have what I'm looking for. Should I bullshit you and tell you that you're all potential LTR material? Do guys go into strip bars expecting to find wife material? Get real. We're all here killing some time here. What you do outside of this forum is none of my business. But I don't come here seeking men with dating potential. Sorry.

[SirCumsAlot]

There are some great guys here. Some are great guys much of the time. Some are lying through their teeth, acting like they're good guys. And some are basically just scumbags. Whatever category you gentlemen fit in is for you to know and me not to give a shit about. I'm just telling you that, by my standards, 99.99% of you are not dating material. I'm ok with a guy who checks out porn. That's not an issue foe me. But guys that create online personas, and spend so much time on forums like this, don't seem to have what I'm looking for. Should I bullshit you and tell you that you're all potential LTR material? Do guys go into strip bars expecting to find wife material? Get real. We're all here killing some time here. What you do outside of this forum is none of my business. But I don't come here seeking men with dating potential. Sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1NvOPF2rCw&ob=av2n

[loveboof]

You know who uses incorrect terminology like that? The Maury Povich Show. Hmm. :geek:

~BB~
You know what I'm trying to say. There's no point jumping down my throat because of the terminology.

Gender identity is a complicated issue. My point was that what would be achieved by explaining everything to everyone when it is none of their business.

Edit: and actually your response kinda proves my point. I'm a fairly liberal guy, who certainly holds no ill feelings towards transgender people - and even I have unwittingly offended your sensibilities. How do you expect poor old grandma to understand this conversation.

[BellaBellucci]

You know what I'm trying to say. There's no point jumping down my throat because of the terminology.

Gender identity is a complicated issue. My point was that what would be achieved by explaining everything to everyone when it is none of their business.

Baby, if I was jumping down your throat, you'd taste it. :jerkoff

~BB~

[giovanni_hotel]

Whatever, I've stopped trying to find that clear thru line with some people on here.
Who's actively cultivating an 'online persona'?? Most of the guys on here I'd bet aren't really much different than how they represent themselves in posts.

For me it's not about measuring up to anyones personal criteria for who's 'dating material'.
But it just sounds odd to me that because a guy participates on a porn forum, suddenly he's generically this 'type' who is anything but someone a girl on here would date.

Just a lot of assumptions going on, as if on some basic level most guys who post on this type of board are social defectives.
Fine IMO for someone to say they would never automatically date someone they met online because you really don't know them. But to say because a man is online posting on a porn forum(OMG!!), generally speaking he's a schmuck....hell I'm tying myself up in knots trying to see the logic in that.

When I talk about this not so subtle sense of contempt/condescension by some of the ladies towards guys for actually being members of HA, this is what I'm talking about.

If someone comes at me in a negative way because of something I wrote, that's justified.
But to label me and put me in a box because I'm here posting on HA, that's kinda off.

IMO that's right up there with TGs who don't like guys already into TGs.

[loveboof]

Baby, if I was jumping down your throat, you'd taste it. :jerkoff

~BB~

lol.

[loveboof]

I don't think it's entirely fair to just look at HA as a porn forum. Most of the stuff I comment on here doesnt have much to do with getting myself off...

Yeah, I appreciate some of the pics - but the forum side of it is not so much about the porn for me.

[BellaBellucci]

I don't think it's entirely fair to just look at HA as a porn forum. Most of the stuff I comment on here doesnt have much to do with getting myself off...

Yeah, I appreciate some of the pics - but the forum side of it is not so much about the porn for me.

We need more people around here who share your sentiment. :geek:

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Gio,

I'm a TS escort who's done porn, so me being here is pretty black and white. Guys who become like barnacles on this forum tho' are, imo, not exactly embracing all life has to offer. For example, I don't think Dino has his shit together. Maybe he's a decent guy, but he has issues. And even tho' I can deal with him, he is offensive imo; not directly offensive, but offensive. I think he's a pretty good example of someone who's socially stagnant, and not dating material. I don't judge him for it though. I don't care. But if you wanted an example of what I'm talking about, so be it. I actually like Dino, in some respects. I like you in some respects. But you guys are not on my man-loving radar. Sue me, but that's that.

You actually plummeted from "seemingly nice guy on HA" to a "sketchy weirdo with issues, who I don't trust" when you said something as retarded as what you did a couple months ago. But again, I'm not asking you to see things my way. I'm simply telling you why you're never going to be someone I date. You may not even want to date me, which works out fantastically for both of us. :) But you questioned me about it, so I'm answering you. It was nothing aimed at you initially. But, since you seemed to need me to qualify the statement as it applied to you, there you go. lol

And don't tell me that this is a healthy or even close to optimal way to socialize. It's not. Furthermore, if you want to date a pre-op TS, you'd have to do better than parking yourself on the first place in cyber space where you got to see us with no clothes on. If you don't want a date or intimacy as a result of the time you spend on HA, nothing I said should have irked you. I didn't think I was being all that irreverent tbh.

[giovanni_hotel]

So cynical.

[Nicole Dupre]

I don't think it's entirely fair to just look at HA as a porn forum. Most of the stuff I comment on here doesnt have much to do with getting myself off...

Yeah, I appreciate some of the pics - but the forum side of it is not so much about the porn for me.
Well, it's not entirely a porn forum. But then Hustler is not entirely a porn mag. It has some politics, current events, music, etc. But it's not quite the Huffington Post either. ;-) lol

[runningdownthatdream]

There are some great guys here. Some are great guys much of the time. Some are lying through their teeth, acting like they're good guys. And some are basically just scumbags. Whatever category you gentlemen fit in is for you to know and me not to give a shit about. I'm just telling you that, by my standards, 99.99% of you are not dating material. I'm ok with a guy who checks out porn. That's not an issue foe me. But guys that create online personas, and spend so much time on forums like this, don't seem to have what I'm looking for. Should I bullshit you and tell you that you're all potential LTR material? Do guys go into strip bars expecting to find wife material? Get real. We're all here killing some time here. What you do outside of this forum is none of my business. But I don't come here seeking men with dating potential. Sorry.

I get what you're saying but let me flip the script for a moment: how many guys that fit your standard would want a woman that has an ebullient a personality as that which you have created online and spends as much time as you do on here?

I know you know that generalizing is just taking the easy way out rather than getting to know the individual........we're all fucked up in one way or another even the guy that meets your standard - most of us just don't acknowledge it or try real hard to show the world what we think the world wants to see.

I see through your online persona though so I'd date you ;)

[Nicole Dupre]

So cynical.
Gio, you're free to put me on ignore. I'm used to serving no purpose here other than to be jerked off to. All the girls are. It's quite alright.

[Nicole Dupre]

I get what you're saying but let me flip the script for a moment: how many guys that fit your standard would want a woman that has an ebullient a personality as that which you have created online and spends as much time as you do on here?

I know you know that generalizing is just taking the easy way out rather than getting to know the individual........we're all fucked up in one way or another even the guy that meets your standard - most of us just don't acknowledge it or try real hard to show the world what we think the world wants to see.

I see through your online persona though so I'd date you ;)
I've already said that I wouldn't want to date a guy seeking "Nicole". ;-)

[Quiet Reflections]

I don't think it's entirely fair to just look at HA as a porn forum. Most of the stuff I comment on here doesnt have much to do with getting myself off...

Yeah, I appreciate some of the pics - but the forum side of it is not so much about the porn for me.
I refuse to believe anyone can actually get off on this forum.

[BellaBellucci]

I refuse to believe anyone can actually get off on this forum.

Sure you can. Direct me to the server and I'll show you. I'll get off all over this shiznit. :jerkoff

~BB~

PS: Yes, I'm in a silly mood today. Watch out peoples. :lol:

[runningdownthatdream]

I've already said that I wouldn't want to date a guy seeking "Nicole". ;-)

nor would I date Nicole ;) ;)

[giovanni_hotel]

I jusr disagree with you Nikki. And I think you're cynical. That wasn't an insult. Sometimes it's pragmatic to expect the worst from strangers. I dunno, different life experiences.

BTW no one said you were just a blowup tranny doll who can type.
If you think guys on this board are attracted to you because they can't get past your sexuality, then I guess I'll keep things strictly superficial.

Doesn't require me to put you literally on 'ignore', but oddly it still works out the same.

[justafreak]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/306364_287882024562541_100000222368999_1308605_438 505004_n.jpg

?

Question for all you guys

She's not my type so answer would be no

[Nicole Dupre]

I jusr disagree with you Nikki. And I think you're cynical. That wasn't an insult. Sometimes it's pragmatic to expect the worst from strangers. I dunno, different life experiences.

BTW no one said you were just a blowup tranny doll who can type.
If you think guys on this board are attracted to you because they can't get past your sexuality, then I guess I'll keep things strictly superficial.

Doesn't require me to put you literally on 'ignore', but oddly it still works out the same.
I see. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

http://hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=967392&postcount=3

[walterodim]

I don't think I would have any problem dating her publicly, nor do I think I'd have any trouble telling most people. The people I wouldn't tell would be more for her benefit than mine--some of my 'conservative' friends can be abrasive jackasses.

[NaughtyJane]

Jane, straightforward and dignified common sense as always.

Any man who would not be comfortable with having a transgender girl on his arm simply doesn't deserve her.

Thanks. I'm done with this topic.

As a neophyte on this site, learning that I want to back way off my participation. A lot of hostility, confusion and pain.
Seems contrary to what a bunch of people with a unique and sophisticated taste and sexuality would express in a place about this super cool thing.
Being, or seeking, highly sexed trans chicks - or enjoying their creative perhaps commercialized sexuality.
I just find I often I want to "go off" and get my surly, psycho bitch on... I don't like to feel like that...and usually don't...and I am just here blabbing when bored... not promoting anything... it really doesn't matter what I think... it matters what I do... I'm gonna keep doing it.

See y'all 'round... Hell with this I'm goin' shopping! Maybe that cute guy is working the dept. store tonight...

I'll be around.

[OmarZ]

She's not my type so answer would be no

What dont you like about her? Shes a gorgeous individual.

[justafreak]

Its just one pic but its doesn't look like she has boobs. And she look to skinny have a phat ass. plus she's got too much make up on, I ain't gonna front like I wouldn't hit it, but that wasn't the question. She's cute in face tho.