What's The Biggest Sin A Comedian Can Commit?

[Dino Velvet]

Inspired by this Tracy Morgan nonsense.

[Jericho]

Inspired by this Tracy Morgan nonsense.?

Getting caught wanking in a porno theatre!
You'd think PeeWee, they'd expect it! :shrug

[Dino Velvet]

?

Getting caught wanking in a porno theatre!
You'd think PeeWee, they'd expect it! :shrug

If he went full on Pee-Wee waving his wiener around, he would've talked his way out of the back of the police car.

BTW, I voted "To Not Be Funny". You can get away with saying almost anything as long as you're funny. No one can judge you if they laughed at your joke unless they want to judge themselves too.

[GrimFusion]

I'm getting sick of this assault on first amendment rights. Honestly, I'm more upset at NBC officially apologizing for Morgan's comments than I am about him making them in the first place. People have opinions, and sometimes they're absolutely backward, uncalled for, and offensive; but people fuckin' bitch too much. An apology doesn't make Morgan's comments any less true to him or his comedy any less appallingly entertaining.

Addressing Sarah Palin by saying she makes for good masturbation material isn't slanderous in the least. It's no worse than calling her "hot", it's simply a little more descriptive and crude. Since when is crude speech not protected? Oh, right... when crude speech is bad for business. Essentially, it's NBC saying "We're sorry we didn't do research on this guy and his routine before allowing him on national T.V. Please don't stop watching! We like your money too much!". I take more offense to that than Tracy's claim he'd shiv his son if he turned out gay.

[Dino Velvet]

I'm getting sick of this assault on first amendment rights. Honestly, I'm more upset at NBC officially apologizing for Morgan's comments than I am about him making them in the first place. People have opinions, and sometimes they're absolutely backward, uncalled for, and offensive; but people fuckin' bitch too much. An apology doesn't make Morgan's comments any less true to him or his comedy any less appallingly entertaining.

Addressing Sarah Palin by saying she makes for good masturbation material isn't slanderous in the least. It's no worse than calling her "hot", it's simply a little more descriptive and crude. Since when is crude speech not protected? Oh, right... when crude speech is bad for business. Essentially, it's NBC saying "We're sorry we didn't do research on this guy and his routine before allowing him on national T.V. Please don't stop watching! We like your money too much!". I take more offense to that than Tracy's claim he'd shiv his son if he turned out gay.

Why do people "demand apologies"? What good is forcing someone to apologize when it's from his lawyer and not his heart? Let Tracy wear his big boy pants and take his lumps like a man.

[GrimFusion]

Why do people "demand apologies"? What good is forcing someone to apologize when it's from his lawyer and not his heart? Let Tracy wear his big boy pants and take his lumps like a man.

Ditto.

P.S. I hate black people.

P.P.S. I sincerely apologize for my previous comment as it's not true.

[Dino Velvet]

Ditto.

P.S. I hate black people.

P.P.S. I sincerely apologize for my previous comment as it's not true.

Just work some racism into the act and make lemonade out of lemons. Works for Louie CK.

[Jericho]

So, for the benefit of us non-amerikans, wots this Tracy chick done?

[theone1982]

So, for the benefit of us non-amerikans, wots this Tracy chick done?

He said something like if his son turned out to be gay, he would stab him.

[kukm4]

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/10/tracy-morgan-homophobic-act-rant-comedy-gay-threats-kill-son-30-rock/

[Jericho]

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/10/tracy-morgan-homophobic-act-rant-comedy-gay-threats-kill-son-30-rock/


Ahhhhh, that explains it, not a chick then!
I'd probably have issues if I was named after a girl, too! :shrug

[Dino Velvet]

Different Tracy but is singer Tracy Chapman a man or a woman? For all these years I've never known.

[Jericho]

Different Tracy but is singer Tracy Chapman a man or a woman? For all these years I've never known.

As a European, I would assume chick but, you avant garde mirkins, who knows! :shrug

[Dino Velvet]

As a European, I would assume chick but, you avant garde mirkins, who knows! :shrug

Tracy is shiny like a penny but appears to be of neither gender but possibly of both.

[Ineeda SM]

Tracy's jokes were quite a bit over the top on being offensive by attacking gays. Here is some of what he said on stage that pissed people off......


"Gays need to quit being pussies and not be whining about something as insignificant as bullying."

"Gay is something that kids learn from the media and programming."

"My son better talk to me like a man and not in a gay voice or I'll pull out a knife and stab that little nigger to death."

"I don't "fucking care if I piss off some gays, because if they can take a fucking dick up their ass ... they can take a fucking joke."

Not very smart and not at all funny. I bet he lost fans with that shit.

[Dino Velvet]

Tracey's jokes were quite a bit over the top on being offensive by attacking gays. Here is some of what he said on stage that pissed people off......



Not very smart and not at all funny.

I agree. And if I were the gays I wouldn't forgive him just because he read a prepared apology written by someone else. Tracy took a risk a might deserve to lose a portion of his audience.

[robertlouis]

Different Tracy but is singer Tracy Chapman a man or a woman? For all these years I've never known.

Doesn't matter what she is, she's one hell of a songwriter. Love her stuff.

[Jericho]

Tracy is shiny like a penny but appears to be of neither gender but possibly of both.

Nope, I'm thinking divided by a common language.
Like calling yer kid Randy...Just asking fer trouble (especially if he's some red haired freckly gimp)! :ignore:

[Dino Velvet]

Let's all make a pact that if we ever see Tracy Chapman we follow Tracy to the toilet then report back to the board so we can bring this matter to a close.

http://bigpondmusic.com/images/AlbumCoverArt/310/XXL/Tracy-Chapman.jpghttp://www.gardencrossings.com/_ccLib/image/plants/DETA-1370.jpg

[robertlouis]

Tracy is shiny like a penny but appears to be of neither gender but possibly of both.

Whatever he/she/it is, those remarks won't help allay the commonly-held perception that the black community is to some extent at least very homophobic. Maybe not quite as strident here in the UK, but it's noticeable.

[robertlouis]

Let's all make a pact that if we ever see Tracy Chapman we follow her to the toilet then report back to the board so we can bring this matter to a close.

I suspect that she wears sturdy shoes, as we say over here, but I love her music regardless.

Not like Mick Hucknall, obviously. He's a cunt AND I can't abide his music.

[theone1982]

Doesn't matter what she is, she's one hell of a songwriter. Love her stuff.

This rare vid shows how she writes her songs.
YouTube - ‪In Living Color "The Making of a Tracy Chapman Song"‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ9hNjiwX-U)

[Jericho]

I suspect that she wears sturdy shoes, as we say over here, but I love her music regardless.

Not like Mick Hucknall, obviously. He's a cunt AND I can't abide his music.


A'hm shocked, you don't like the ruby toothed ginge? :hide-1:

[robertlouis]

A'hm shocked, you don't like the ruby toothed ginge? :hide-1:

Feck, Jericho. How did you guess? :whistle:

I write songs for a living and a lot of his songs, in themselves, are actually pretty tight. But the way he delivers them, oh lordy.

And, as I said, he's a cunt, and a manc one at that.

[fred41]

Feck, Jericho. How did you guess? :whistle:

I write songs for a living and a lot of his songs, in themselves, are actually pretty tight. But the way he delivers them, oh lordy.

And, as I said, he's a cunt, and a manc one at that.

You write anything that I might know?

[Jericho]

Feck, Jericho. How did you guess? :whistle:

I write songs for a living and a lot of his songs, in themselves, are actually pretty tight. But the way he delivers them, oh lordy.

And, as I said, he's a cunt, and a manc one at that.


Now, now, RL, bag on MacHucknell if you will, but, I spend enough time in Manchester that I have to come to the defence of the place.
It's a grim, rainy, dirty auld hole, full of cunts! :hide-1:
:lol:

[robertlouis]

Now, now, RL, bag on MacHucknell if you will, but, I spend enough time in Manchester that I have to come to the defence of the place.
It's a grim, rainy, dirty auld hole, full of cunts! :hide-1:
:lol:


Ah, sounds just like home.

(Sings) I belong tae Glasgow, dear auld Glasgow toon.....

[CaptainPlanet]

Honestly a Comedian has no Boundaries, thats what they get paid for! If there was a censorship Richard Pryor would of never been who he is, and hes the man that paved the way for these guys!

[SkankyTrannyAnna]

Tracy's jokes were quite a bit over the top on being offensive by attacking gays. Here is some of what he said on stage that pissed people off......



Not very smart and not at all funny. I bet he lost fans with that shit.

I'm not exactly sure how those are jokes, It's like huh? They sound like he's just reading statements from Pat Robertson's website. It's like, where's the punchline?

[Stavros]

Consider the case of Franki Boyle, yes a comedian who deliberately goes to the edge, and I suppose asks if its acceptable when he crosses over: below is the notorious Harvey skit that he did: it appalls me, but then I have little time for contemporary comedians who go to the edge just for the sake it, rather than to make, say a politically valid point -lets face it he's no Lenny Bruce. In fact I can't think of any contemporary comedians who cut it, and most seem to think that being a 'comic' automatically gives them insight into politics, whereas its just opinion. Your judgement call.

Harvey Price

In December 2010, both Katie Price and Peter Andre were said to have been left "absolutely disgusted and sickened" by a joke in the 7 December 2010 broadcast about Price's heavily disabled son, Harvey (then 8 years old). On the show, Boyle said: "Jordan and Peter Andre are still fighting each other over custody of Harvey - eventually one of them will lose and have to keep him." Then adding "I have a theory about the reason Jordan married Andre- she needed a man strong enough to stop Harvey from fucking her."[/URL]
In a response, Katie Price's representative said "Harvey Price is a little miracle. Every day he overcomes so many difficulties and has so many battles to win due to his medical problems. I love him and am deeply proud to be his mother. If Mr Boyle had a tenth of his courage and decency, he would know that to suggest, let alone think funny, that Harvey may sexually attack me is vile and deeply unfair. Mr Boyle clearly has serious issues and those that give him a TV platform to say such disgusting things need to look at themselves very honestly." Peter Andre's representative also responded to the comments made by Boyle and said "We're all disgusted by these comments. Peter is angry and very upset at Harvey being mocked in this way. Children, especially a disabled youngster, should be off-limits." Both have confirmed that they are seeking legal action and have written a complaint to Channel 4 regarding Boyle's jokes with Katie saying "To bully this unbelievably brave child is despicable; to broadcast it is to show a complete and utter lack of judgement. I have asked my lawyers to write to Channel 4."[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle%E2%80%99s_Tramadol_Nights#cite_note-17"] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle%E2%80%99s_Tramadol_Nights#cite_note-16) The charity Mencap described Boyle's joke as a "disgusting" attack on a disabled child.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle%E2%80%99s_Tramadol_Nights#cite_note-19)
In April 2011 Ofcom upheld 500 complaints about the incident and censured Boyle and Channel 4 for broadcasting the jokes, which had been personally cleared by Channel 4's Chief Executive, ruling that the material appeared to directly target and mock the mental and physical disabilities of a known eight year-old child who had not himself chosen to be in the public eye. "As such, Ofcom found that the comments had considerable potential to be highly offensive to the audience."[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle%E2%80%99s_Tramadol_Nights#cite_note-20)[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle%E2%80%99s_Tramadol_Nights#cite_note-21)
Frankie Boyle’s Tramadol Nights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Boyle%E2%80%99s_Tramadol_Nights)

[CORVETTEDUDE]

The biggest sin is To Not Be Funny!!! Comedians make a living off offending people....Morgan dis'd somebody and now their feelings are hurt!? The whole thing is bullshit....FOAD!!!:loser:

[iamdrgonzo]

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.

[Dino Velvet]

where's the punchline?

Exactly. You can make fun of gays or anyone if you do it right and are funny. I tell Jewish Jokes to Jews all the time but that doesn't mean I tell Holocaust jokes too. I have every right to as an American but the person on the receiving end has the same right to think of me as an asshole.

[giovanni_hotel]

Being honest about what you REALLY think is the biggest sin for a comic.

It takes real talent to be funny while satirizing a minority group. Tracy Morgan is a bigoted homophobe, which is weird because I heard he was DL about himself and tgirls.

[onmyknees]

I'm getting sick of this assault on first amendment rights. Honestly, I'm more upset at NBC officially apologizing for Morgan's comments than I am about him making them in the first place. People have opinions, and sometimes they're absolutely backward, uncalled for, and offensive; but people fuckin' bitch too much. An apology doesn't make Morgan's comments any less true to him or his comedy any less appallingly entertaining.

Addressing Sarah Palin by saying she makes for good masturbation material isn't slanderous in the least. It's no worse than calling her "hot", it's simply a little more descriptive and crude. Since when is crude speech not protected? Oh, right... when crude speech is bad for business. Essentially, it's NBC saying "We're sorry we didn't do research on this guy and his routine before allowing him on national T.V. Please don't stop watching! We like your money too much!". I take more offense to that than Tracy's claim he'd shiv his son if he turned out gay.


You're confusing the right to say derogatory, unflattering shit with the prudence of saying derogatory shit. Nobody is threatening to toss Tracy Morgan or the other idiot who made the Palin comments in jail...hell Bill Maher slanders ( not in a legal sense) somebody nearly every time he opens his suck hole, so it's not about violating someone's rights...Tracy Morgan's right to say what he wants is protected from civil criminality, it's just NBC is a publicly held company and they'd rather not deal with the negative publicity and backlash.

While I agree we're way too sensitive about shit like this, classlessness and crudeness reigns supreme in today's pop culture. That's what he's being called on the carpet for...He would have been better off to pull up a soap box on the street corner and spout his foolishness.