Whats up with all these guys trying to change...

[SisterDickRadio]

I find it disheartening on this thread guys are still posting BS post on threads about if this girl got Boobs she would be hotter or if this girl had a bigger dick, this girl lost some weight, if this girl did this or that...

You set here and criticize all of us and then you wonder why so many girls on here call you guys fags and tranny chasers.... you are so fucking rude and hurtful and you dont even know it. People are committing suicide over this BS! You guys need to accept a girl for who she is and move on. If she is not your cup of tea then dont look! Stop being so god damn rude and post these bogus post and threads about changing us.

You dont have to walk in our shoes and you dont know what its like to be a ts so stop trying to act like you do. Have some fucking respect!!! There, I am done ranting on this!!! Say what u want!

[robertlouis]

I find it disheartening on this thread guys are still posting BS post on threads about if this girl got Boobs she would be hotter or if this girl had a bigger dick, this girl lost some weight, if this girl did this or that...

You set here and criticize all of us and then you wonder why so many girls on here call you guys fags and tranny chasers.... you are so fucking rude and hurtful and you dont even know it. People are committing suicide over this BS! You guys need to accept a girl for who she is and move on. If she is not your cup of tea then dont look! Stop being so god damn rude and post these bogus post and threads about changing us.

You dont have to walk in our shoes and you dont know what its like to be a ts so stop trying to act like you do. Have some fucking respect!!! There, I am done ranting on this!!! Say what u want!

:iagree::iagree::iagree: It's the same kind of sexism that objectifies all women, trans or otherwise. It would be sad to discover that a girl would change her body in response to what's said here or in any other medium rather than doing what she feels is right for herself.

[chrisraid3]

:iagree::iagree::iagree: It's the same kind of sexism that objectifies all women, trans or otherwise. It would be sad to discover that a girl would change her body in response to what's said here or in any other medium rather than doing what she feels is right for herself.

I completely agree with both of ya!!!

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Hello 'sister dick radio'.

You are very true with what you say. But there are a few 'ifs and buts'.

Firstly, this is a porn forum, it's just a fantasy. For a lot of people they just come here to see a bit of porn, read something funny, some cheap entertainment and jerk off, probably the majority of readers. Afterall this is what the porn industry is about.

So, naturally if girls (ts or genetic born women) are in the porn industry, they are putting themselves in material to be viewed by the audience. So of course the audience is going to judge them.

The same with hollywood actors/actresses. The audience will judge, this is human nature.

The most important thing to do, is what most the professional ts sex workers will do, dont get wrapped up in any of the silly things that faceless people say, it's just a job. It's a bit of porn, a bit of nude/fetish modelling and maybe some escorting. That's it.

With female lap dancers, fetish models or escorts, they dont care less what people say about them. Why should it be any different with ts? Criticism is going to come from lots of different places when you put yourself in the media, whether it is nude modelling, pornography, soap opera acting, game show hostess, chat show, news reader etc.

People judge by looks, this is the way it is sadly, when you are in the media then you are going to be judged. Be strong and have thick skin, the more successful you become, the more you will be judged and the more nasty things people will say about you as well.

Secondly i know that the porn industry and prostition sadly plays a very large role in the ts community, but you can see examples of ts who can deal with it and others who can not deal with it. Some ts see it as them becomming a star, someone famous, an aspiration (until they grow up) and others see it as a way of making money, a business they can capitalise from, make their money, save their money and invest in businesses and property and then leave at the right time. Be savvy, be the latter of the two examples, the first is a naive fooled little boy desperate to become a 'transexual pornstar', the majority of fans are just people who dont care about the models at all and just use the images to jerk off to. Or as many on here, to use services of prostitution.

Be savvy and be thick skinned. You are correct saying that it is not right, that people should have more respect, but sadly it is like this in every single industry where someone puts themselves 'out there' in one way or another to be judged.

[nonnonnon]

to be fair, girls do it also

[ed_jaxon]

personally I like your changes

[SisterDickRadio]

Hello 'sister dick radio'.

You are very true with what you say. But there are a few 'ifs and buts'.

Firstly, this is a porn forum, it's just a fantasy. For a lot of people they just come here to see a bit of porn, read something funny, some cheap entertainment and jerk off, probably the majority of readers. Afterall this is what the porn industry is about.

So, naturally if girls (ts or genetic born women) are in the porn industry, they are putting themselves in material to be viewed by the audience. So of course the audience is going to judge them.

The same with hollywood actors/actresses. The audience will judge, this is human nature.

The most important thing to do, is what most the professional ts sex workers will do, dont get wrapped up in any of the silly things that faceless people say, it's just a job. It's a bit of porn, a bit of nude/fetish modelling and maybe some escorting. That's it.

With female lap dancers, fetish models or escorts, they dont care less what people say about them. Why should it be any different with ts? Criticism is going to come from lots of different places when you put yourself in the media, whether it is nude modelling, pornography, soap opera acting, game show hostess, chat show, news reader etc.

People judge by looks, this is the way it is sadly, when you are in the media then you are going to be judged. Be strong and have thick skin, the more successful you become, the more you will be judged and the more nasty things people will say about you as well.

Secondly i know that the porn industry and prostition sadly plays a very large role in the ts community, but you can see examples of ts who can deal with it and others who can not deal with it. Some ts see it as them becomming a star, someone famous, an aspiration (until they grow up) and others see it as a way of making money, a business they can capitalise from, make their money, save their money and invest in businesses and property and then leave at the right time. Be savvy, be the latter of the two examples, the first is a naive fooled little boy desperate to become a 'transexual pornstar', the majority of fans are just people who dont care about the models at all and just use the images to jerk off to. Or as many on here, to use services of prostitution.

Be savvy and be thick skinned. You are correct saying that it is not right, that people should have more respect, but sadly it is like this in every single industry where someone puts themselves 'out there' in one way or another to be judged.

Yes it may be a porn forum babe but u have to understand a lot of these girls are doing this life because its all they can do. So for you or anyone to critize them for not having big boobs or this or that is insulting.

Thread about Domino a few wks ago... should she get boobs or not. U know what that is her choice none of yours. But some girls dont have thick skin and are still young and discovering themselves. Yes they may put themselves out there for the world to see in a sexual light but in the end what are you gaining from telling that girl to go get boobs she would be hotter???

I sometimes wonder if you really think what you say, has an affect on that person? I have been told so many things in my life to do, and yes when I was younger it hurt real bad, but I grew into accepting who I am. Not every girl is that lucky and a lot of times become depressed or take their own lives. They have so much more than a woman in the struggle to be who they are. So just be more respectful when speaking on what someone can do to change themselves.

[SisterDickRadio]

personally I like your changes

Thanks babe! But I am standing up for other girls! LOL! Im not speaking on my behalf because I know I am not for everyone and I dont care what others say. But for girls who are finding who they are, its hard for them to figure it out with people saying what they should or should not change about themselves.

[MrsKellyPierce]

In a perfect world this wouldn't happen!

However to a lot of these guys you are a public image/celeb...

Public will make an opinion on who they put on a pedestal....

It's unfortunately what comes with the territory.

You can ignore and own your beauty, and worry about the men who feel you are beautiful OR FOCUS ON IT.

I used to in the past now I don't care.

I have lovely fans who think I'm beautiful and support me through it all. And those are the ones I put my energy towards.

Like us girls that look at celebs and say whoa what was she thinking etc or what a fashion fail...

That's how the guys react..to them we are models for their fantasy.

[robertlouis]

In a perfect world this wouldn't happen!

However to a lot of these guys you are a public image/celeb...

Public will make an opinion on who they put on a pedestal....

It's unfortunately what comes with the territory.

You can ignore and own your beauty, and worry about the men who feel you are beautiful OR FOCUS ON IT.

I used to in the past now I don't care.

I have lovely fans who think I'm beautiful and support me through it all. And those are the ones I put my energy towards.

Like us girls that look at celebs and say whoa what was she thinking etc or what a fashion fail...

That's how the guys react..to them we are models for their fantasy.

Some very interesting observations drawn from your own experience there, Kelly. Are you indicating that in the past you felt and succumbed to external pressures about your looks and how/if you should change them to meet others' expectations of you?

If the question is unduly intrusive, please don't feel obliged to answer. My respect for your personal and professional integrity won't alter either way.

[Birgitta]

to be fair, girls do it also


True and when it comes down to it tgirls are probably worse then men,

About domino, i remember a lot of guys did not want her to get implants, i thought that was pretty cool.

I dont like a lot of things that guys say here but i like it that some of them are really honest about stuff...like that they would date pre op, but no post op.

i think that makes a lot of girls insecure about srs(well at least im one), if the world was full of guys praising post ops, it would be much easier for me to take the step.

So in general, tgirls that are into men will be influenced by what men say because they love them.
This has resulted in a lot of pressure to look perfect and like a gg.

A lot of girls and lovers find it normal for girls to do ffs, and implants, when they dont look feminine enough, while a the same time more then half of the guys interested want them to behave masculine in bed.
And when a post op does not look like a gg, it is almost considered a crime.

im also very insecure about my looks, but that stuff can really drive you crazy.

I rather be a freak with a big loving heart,then chasing an impossible dream, or one that i could only achieve with selling my body....but the pressure from sociaty, tgirls tlovers, woman and men in general is enormous, and often too much to handle for anyone in this situation....

[LibertyHarkness]

reality is moment you step into anything that invloves posting picutures on an open forum your open to hear things you dont like ...just the way it is ...especially people that are in porn ..

I think people should just be abit more politer if they dont like a look of a girl, rather than, "jeez thats a an ugly cunt with no tits, i have seen boys at my work more girly looking etc" all they would have to say is , xyz is not my cup of tea i dont like her like for me ..

About thick skin, and owning yourself as kelly puts it that is correct .... everyperson needs to own themselves fully ...but you really do need to be come like steel and think nothing of the insects ..

[Prospero]

When it comes to making remarks about girls who've the courage to post pictures the guiding principle should be - if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all.

[phobun]

i think that makes a lot of girls insecure about srs(well at least im one), if the world was full of guys praising post ops, it would be much easier for me to take the step.


You should do everything for yourself and ignore the fetishes of cockhounds.

There are some guys who are not focused on male-anatomy and who will respect and appreciate you for being who you are, not who you think a cockhound wants.

[Bobzz]

Yes it may be a porn forum babe but u have to understand a lot of these girls are doing this life because its all they can do.

This has got to be the 3rd or 4th biggest lie right after the check is in the mail and I promise I won't cum in your mouth (and the lie is not just amongst transgendered women). It is somewhere between a self fulfilling rationale or a misplaced justification not to do anything else. I personally have met and know transsexual women who are hairdressers, Sprint telephone salespeople, barristas at Starbucks, secretaries, restaurant hostesses, lawyers and even a one physician. I'm sure that there are also many, many other careers and positions that transsexual women have chosen rather than "this life", whatever that means.

If one chooses the porn industry (or acting for that matter) as a profession, one willingly subjects themselves to the vox populi and all of the downside comments that go along with it (as well as the upside). After all, you're putting yourself on display for what you are not who you are and not everyone shares the same tastes.

Just a thought!

[phobun]

This has got to be the 3rd or 4th biggest lie right after the check is in the mail and I promise I won't cum in your mouth (and the lie is not just amongst transgendered women). It is somewhere between a self fulfilling rationale or a misplaced justification not to do anything else. I personally have met and know transsexual women who are hairdressers, Sprint telephone salespeople, barristas at Starbucks, secretaries, restaurant hostesses, lawyers and even a one physician. I'm sure that there are also many, many other careers and positions that transsexual women have chosen rather than "this life", whatever that means.


Very true

[tslvr]

Not to be mean, but isn't there a girl in this thread that used to talk about how she would never go to bed with less then a perfect looking guy? My feelings have always been pretty simple, just show a little respect and restraint.

[SammiValentine]

You should do everything for yourself and ignore the fetishes of cockhounds.

There are some guys who are not focused on male-anatomy and who will respect and appreciate you for being who you are, not who you think a cockhound wants.

and there are also men, women or ts who think or say or imply that if you do not want srs you are not a "real" transsexual - also BS. (just like the point you both made)

Pressure , pressure, pressure..

It is more about how you deal with things as Kelly said, - as unfortunately comments whether you like them or dislike them are "nature of the beast".

[Birgitta]

You should do everything for yourself and ignore the fetishes of cockhounds.

There are some guys who are not focused on male-anatomy and who will respect and appreciate you for being who you are, not who you think a cockhound wants.

Might be true, the guys that are passive are no relationship material, but there are guys out there that are, and i can understand that a post op ts is a different sexuality for men, then dating a pre op.
Its easy for me to understand a guy that finds the physique of a pre op attractive, post op you have to be beautifull coz indeed you are competing with ggs and the surgery has to be succesfull too.
Too many risks involved, im not a beauty queen and try to make the best of what i have got.
Im quite rational...or so i like to think,
As a woman, i dont want to be a transsexual,
But i have no choice,
So having to be a ts i can choose between these two options.
I would want to be post op ts if i was really beautifull, and if i get a guarantee the surgery will be a succes,
The above is risky, so for now i rather be a mixture of both sexes, still seems to be the safest and best option for me.

Apart from that i am afraid of cosmetic surgery coz i want to be as natural as possible, and if in any way i would look fake, or plastic just to be passible, i rather be a natural looking ts,
Also i dont have the kind of money to pay for the surgeons i would trust my body too..
So there are a lot of reasons for me not to,

And besides, the guys that like me will probably be indifferent about my genitals anyway, unless it looked deformed and i have seen too many bad examples of that...

[dderek123]

Guys are guys. They won't change.

Porn models should develop thick skin before they decide to get involved in the industry.

[nsagent]

Hello 'sister dick radio'.

You are very true with what you say. But there are a few 'ifs and buts'.

Firstly, this is a porn forum, it's just a fantasy. For a lot of people they just come here to see a bit of porn, read something funny, some cheap entertainment and jerk off, probably the majority of readers. Afterall this is what the porn industry is about.

So, naturally if girls (ts or genetic born women) are in the porn industry, they are putting themselves in material to be viewed by the audience. So of course the audience is going to judge them.

The same with hollywood actors/actresses. The audience will judge, this is human nature.

The most important thing to do, is what most the professional ts sex workers will do, dont get wrapped up in any of the silly things that faceless people say, it's just a job. It's a bit of porn, a bit of nude/fetish modelling and maybe some escorting. That's it.

With female lap dancers, fetish models or escorts, they dont care less what people say about them. Why should it be any different with ts? Criticism is going to come from lots of different places when you put yourself in the media, whether it is nude modelling, pornography, soap opera acting, game show hostess, chat show, news reader etc.

People judge by looks, this is the way it is sadly, when you are in the media then you are going to be judged. Be strong and have thick skin, the more successful you become, the more you will be judged and the more nasty things people will say about you as well.

Secondly i know that the porn industry and prostition sadly plays a very large role in the ts community, but you can see examples of ts who can deal with it and others who can not deal with it. Some ts see it as them becomming a star, someone famous, an aspiration (until they grow up) and others see it as a way of making money, a business they can capitalise from, make their money, save their money and invest in businesses and property and then leave at the right time. Be savvy, be the latter of the two examples, the first is a naive fooled little boy desperate to become a 'transexual pornstar', the majority of fans are just people who dont care about the models at all and just use the images to jerk off to. Or as many on here, to use services of prostitution.

Be savvy and be thick skinned. You are correct saying that it is not right, that people should have more respect, but sadly it is like this in every single industry where someone puts themselves 'out there' in one way or another to be judged.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/nsagent/93061-thumbs20up20monkey3.jpg

This guy gets it!

[dderek123]

This has got to be the 3rd or 4th biggest lie right after the check is in the mail and I promise I won't cum in your mouth (and the lie is not just amongst transgendered women). It is somewhere between a self fulfilling rationale or a misplaced justification not to do anything else. I personally have met and know transsexual women who are hairdressers, Sprint telephone salespeople, barristas at Starbucks, secretaries, restaurant hostesses, lawyers and even a one physician. I'm sure that there are also many, many other careers and positions that transsexual women have chosen rather than "this life", whatever that means.

If one chooses the porn industry (or acting for that matter) as a profession, one willingly subjects themselves to the vox populi and all of the downside comments that go along with it (as well as the upside). After all, you're putting yourself on display for what you are not who you are and not everyone shares the same tastes.

Just a thought!
I totally agree with this guy.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQJnYskvcVrcwbocZOCrIhVfb9EtmDvH vnu8JuBIwMa8kpko0w2IQ

[Prospero]

A good and lucid posting....

"Hello 'sister dick radio'.

You are very true with what you say. But there are a few 'ifs and buts'.

Firstly, this is a porn forum, it's just a fantasy. For a lot of people they just come here to see a bit of porn, read something funny, some cheap entertainment and jerk off, probably the majority of readers. Afterall this is what the porn industry is about.

So, naturally if girls (ts or genetic born women) are in the porn industry, they are putting themselves in material to be viewed by the audience. So of course the audience is going to judge them.

The same with hollywood actors/actresses. The audience will judge, this is human nature.

The most important thing to do, is what most the professional ts sex workers will do, dont get wrapped up in any of the silly things that faceless people say, it's just a job. It's a bit of porn, a bit of nude/fetish modelling and maybe some escorting. That's it.

With female lap dancers, fetish models or escorts, they dont care less what people say about them. Why should it be any different with ts? Criticism is going to come from lots of different places when you put yourself in the media, whether it is nude modelling, pornography, soap opera acting, game show hostess, chat show, news reader etc.

People judge by looks, this is the way it is sadly, when you are in the media then you are going to be judged. Be strong and have thick skin, the more successful you become, the more you will be judged and the more nasty things people will say about you as well.

Secondly i know that the porn industry and prostition sadly plays a very large role in the ts community, but you can see examples of ts who can deal with it and others who can not deal with it. Some ts see it as them becomming a star, someone famous, an aspiration (until they grow up) and others see it as a way of making money, a business they can capitalise from, make their money, save their money and invest in businesses and property and then leave at the right time. Be savvy, be the latter of the two examples, the first is a naive fooled little boy desperate to become a 'transexual pornstar', the majority of fans are just people who dont care about the models at all and just use the images to jerk off to. Or as many on here, to use services of prostitution.

Be savvy and be thick skinned. You are correct saying that it is not right, that people should have more respect, but sadly it is like this in every single industry where someone puts themselves 'out there' in one way or another to be judged."

good and sensible stuff

[SunshyneMonroe]

I see it this way..if I "me myself" am gonna put myself out there there are going to be ppl who just dont "like" me so I have to take the good bad and the ugly...I dont pay mind when i get bad comments or good even for that matter..I just do what I wanna do and be myself..

[Prospero]

well said sunshyne

[for-ward]

I find it disheartening on this thread guys are still posting BS post on threads about if this girl got Boobs she would be hotter or if this girl had a bigger dick, this girl lost some weight, if this girl did this or that...

You set here and criticize all of us and then you wonder why so many girls on here call you guys fags and tranny chasers.... you are so fucking rude and hurtful and you dont even know it. People are committing suicide over this BS! You guys need to accept a girl for who she is and move on. If she is not your cup of tea then dont look! Stop being so god damn rude and post these bogus post and threads about changing us.

You dont have to walk in our shoes and you dont know what its like to be a ts so stop trying to act like you do. Have some fucking respect!!! There, I am done ranting on this!!! Say what u want!

I find Michelle to be very compassionite and her posts reflect that.
Problem is that most people on here only see the ladies here as sexual objects and some posts by the ladies don't help either. I think everyone has to remember that this is the internet and you really shouldn't care enough to kill yourself over what people say. Life is precious, learn to respect yourselves more. Stop hanging out with losers, druggies, alcoholics, toxic people. Be positive and try to not reflect on bad days.
I think people here should be happy to be able to talk with all their favorite stars in porn, which not too many get to do in main stream porn or even hollywood. I see some people getting carried away though with their fantasies of these ladies and the reality is most of the people on here are not going to get the opportunity to date these women so you shouldn't be so hostile when they reject you.

[Bobzz]

I see it this way..if I "me myself" am gonna put myself out there there are going to be ppl who just dont "like" me so I have to take the good bad and the ugly...I dont pay mind when i get bad comments or good even for that matter..I just do what I wanna do and be myself..

I can't image anyone who wouldn't like you! :salad

[Silcc69]

HAHAHAHAHAHA funny shit on here.

[robertlouis]

This has become one of the most thoughtful and interesting threads on the forum, as well as thankfully being flame-free so far, as it goes right to the heart of the fundamentals of the relationship between tgirls and their admirers.

Thanks for starting it, Michelle.

[Ben]

I'm a libertarian (albeit left-leaning) at heart. I accept everyone for who they are... as long as they don't harm me, as it were.
What one finds attractive is subjective. I wouldn't and don't find fault with anyone. I simply like what I like -- :)
I'm indifferent to boob size. But I do prefer larger penises. Hence I like the likes of Mariana Cordoba, Mint and Adriana Rodrigues.
There's no reason to criticize anyone. Plus we should all be working for a better society. Where transsexuals are fully accepted. Where all these phobias -- irrational fears and hatreds -- disappear.
I mean, we still haven't conquered homophobia. Albeit gains have been made. But we're a long way off from living in an ideal society, as it were.
And what would an ideal society look like???????

[BigDF]

Michelle, IMHO your original post was right on target. Much of what is said on here relies on the anonymity of the internet. Personally I try never to post anything I wouldn't say right to someone's face. I doubt most of the guys who post negative comments about girls have ever come out and said something like that to them directly and frankly given some of the girls around here I wish they would, because that would be end of the bullshit(and in some cases the end of the bullshitters)as a confrontation would result.

I personally would like these knotheads to shut up, because in the long run it will cost those of us who appreciate talking to you ladies. This place would die if you were not here. Please remember that most us like you just the way you are and try not to let the haters get to you.:praying::praying::praying:

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I find it disheartening on this thread guys are still posting BS post on threads about if this girl got Boobs she would be hotter or if this girl had a bigger dick, this girl lost some weight, if this girl did this or that...

You set here and criticize all of us and then you wonder why so many girls on here call you guys fags and tranny chasers.... you are so fucking rude and hurtful and you dont even know it. People are committing suicide over this BS! You guys need to accept a girl for who she is and move on. If she is not your cup of tea then dont look! Stop being so god damn rude and post these bogus post and threads about changing us.

You dont have to walk in our shoes and you dont know what its like to be a ts so stop trying to act like you do. Have some fucking respect!!! There, I am done ranting on this!!! Say what u want!

:iagree:Unfortunately, it's just the way things roll. Girls/women/ladies do the same thing. My mother always says, "If you can't say something nice...Keep your fuckin' mouth shut!". But, I didn't heed the advice very well.

[robertlouis]

I'm a libertarian (albeit left-leaning) at heart. I accept everyone for who they are... as long as they don't harm me, as it were.
What one finds attractive is subjective. I wouldn't and don't find fault with anyone. I simply like what I like -- :)
I'm indifferent to boob size. But I do prefer larger penises. Hence I like the likes of Mariana Cordoba, Mint and Adriana Rodrigues.
There's no reason to criticize anyone. Plus we should all be working for a better society. Where transsexuals are fully accepted. Where all these phobias -- irrational fears and hatreds -- disappear.
I mean, we still haven't conquered homophobia. Albeit gains have been made. But we're a long way off from living in an ideal society, as it were.
And what would an ideal society look like???????

You're a tolerant libertarian Ben. That makes you different for a start. But you're absolutely right. Insert Black, Muslim or Jewish to replace terms such as cockhound or gay here, and at least on my side of the Atlantic you would be in danger of a visit from the boys in blue.

What sadly seem to be so often lacking on this forum are two key virtues - tolerance and acceptance. Maybe if they were universally shared we could indeed have an ideal society. But I'm not holding my breath.

[SammiValentine]

You're a tolerant libertarian Ben. That makes you different for a start. But you're absolutely right. Insert Black, Muslim or Jewish to replace terms such as cockhound or gay here, and at least on my side of the Atlantic you would be in danger of a visit from the boys in blue.

What sadly seem to be so often lacking on this forum are two key virtues - tolerance and acceptance. Maybe if they were universally shared we could indeed have an ideal society. But I'm not holding my breath.

Yup holidng your breath is overrated :)

[robertlouis]

Yup holidng your breath is overrated :)

Depends on the situation, Sammi. ;) :whistle:

[SammiValentine]

Depends on the situation, Sammi. ;) :whistle:

lmao.

:salad

[nonnonnon]

You're a tolerant libertarian Ben. That makes you different for a start. But you're absolutely right. Insert Black, Muslim or Jewish to replace terms such as cockhound or gay here, and at least on my side of the Atlantic you would be in danger of a visit from the boys in blue.



thought police??

[Birgitta]

thought police??

Yep. Lol, the only ones that are negative about gay people here seem to be the ones in denial about themselves....

[Ben]

You're a tolerant libertarian Ben. That makes you different for a start. But you're absolutely right. Insert Black, Muslim or Jewish to replace terms such as cockhound or gay here, and at least on my side of the Atlantic you would be in danger of a visit from the boys in blue.

What sadly seem to be so often lacking on this forum are two key virtues - tolerance and acceptance. Maybe if they were universally shared we could indeed have an ideal society. But I'm not holding my breath.

Thanks -- :) Well, I'm left leaning. I'm socially liberal. (Ron Paul gets a lot of attention in America. A lot of his stances, well, I agree with. However, I believe in single-payer health care. I think it's a human right. Ron Paul doesn't agree with that. He thinks everything, including health care, should be left to the market. Hence: purchasing power. I don't agree with that. I mean, a public option is probably the best route to take. For those that want private health care, well, they should get it. But for those who want public, well, they, too, should get it. Not everything has to be IN the market. Sorry for going off on a tangent -- :)) Plus, I mean, I favor gay marriage, of course -- :)
And, too, it's about what kind of society we want to live in. I think everyone should be treated the same. No matter one's gender identity, sexual orientation etc. etc. etc.
I want to live in a pleasant and tolerant society. Most people, of course, do. It's, well, how do we go about achieving it? Well, kindness, tolerance.

[onmyknees]

You should do everything for yourself and ignore the fetishes of cockhounds.

There are some guys who are not focused on male-anatomy and who will respect and appreciate you for being who you are, not who you think a cockhound wants.

You're kidding....right? Forgive me while I fall off the chair laughing at your utter hypocrisy. What a fucking joke. You have no standing to comment on the subject.None. You're the first one to crawl out of the dark corner and lambaste someone who doesn't fit your definition of a "real transsexual". You have zero tolerance for people experimenting and exploring with their sexuality and identity, and you're a convicted homophobe. Now we can add hypocrite to the long list . Perhaps you've come to terms with your intolerance and have taken a new path....just like pigs can fly.

[phobun]

You're kidding....right? Forgive me while I fall off the chair laughing at your utter hypocrisy. What a fucking joke. You have no standing to comment on the subject.None. You're the first one to crawl out of the dark corner and lambaste someone who doesn't fit your definition of a "real transsexual". You have zero tolerance for people experimenting and exploring with their sexuality and identity, and you're a convicted homophobe. Now we can add hypocrite to the long list . Perhaps you've come to terms with your intolerance and have taken a new path....just like pigs can fly.


Oh you're a fine one to talk about hypocrisy... when you aren't defending the policies of gay-hating conservatives, you've quietly got your tongue up the hairy ass of a middle-aged rentboy from Jersey who calls everyone a "faggot" and who has labeled nearly every girl here a man.

[robertlouis]

thought police??

If you uttered them in print, yes.

[nonnonnon]

If you uttered them in print, yes.

yikes

[robertlouis]

yikes

OK, last qualification - if they could be interpreted as giving licence to racial hatred or incitement to violence, it can happen, and prison can be the result.

Vigilance pays - remember that while the UK never suffered a single horrible day on the scale of 9/11, we have had - and avoided - many more terrorist attacks than the US. Taking active steps to stop those who advocate and encourage terrorism or any other hate crime makes a lot of sense in my book.

[GrimFusion]

I find it disheartening on this thread guys are still posting BS post on threads about if this girl got Boobs she would be hotter or if this girl had a bigger dick, this girl lost some weight, if this girl did this or that...

You set here and criticize all of us and then you wonder why so many girls on here call you guys fags and tranny chasers.... you are so fucking rude and hurtful and you don't even know it. People are committing suicide over this BS! You guys need to accept a girl for who she is and move on. If she is not your cup of tea then don't look! Stop being so god damn rude and post these bogus post and threads about changing us.

You don't have to walk in our shoes and you don't know what its like to be a ts so stop trying to act like you do. Have some fucking respect!!! There, I am done ranting on this!!! Say what u want!

It's not like the rest of us reward them for it, and it's only an opinion after all. There's a balance to it, though. Guys that don't know how to act either learn or get labeled; and the girls usually won't screw with dudes who have a bad stigma or reputation.

On the other hand, being sexually picky or shallow and judgmental is normal. Everybody does it. It's human nature to pick apart differences whether male or female, priest or felon. Unfortunately, some have a problem keeping their thoughts to themselves. 'Some' is a bit of an understatement; some are simply rude, others really don't know any better, and a few do it just to provoke a reaction.

Some guys treat women like barbie dolls. Their women always have something more to do to look like some chick they saw in a magazine four years prior. That's not exclusive to the TS scene. The same guys likely treat GGs equally.

I'm not attempting to say it's acceptable or that it shouldn't stop, but only that it won't stop. You might be getting through to a couple of noobs around here, but it won't do anything about the dudes who do it on purpose. Eventually the post will fall off the first and second page, and a new slew of noobs will hit the forum never having read any of this. No worries. Just keep clicking that ignore button.

[TsVanessa69]

The problem is not us. Which is why most girls have left this site.
Its 2011.
Transexuals are living their lives in the REAL world. The men on here are not a part of our life. They are simply outsiders looking in.
We need to stop focusing on the loosers on a computer. They have issues with themselves. Nobody wants them, so they think cutting up on us, because they see us as weaker than them, to make themselves feel good about themselves. Leave these bitter bitchass fools on here. If all the girls left the site, then it would show OUR power as woman and we are not held down by males who are not even real men

[Birgitta]

the problem is not us. Which is why most girls have left this site.
Its 2011.
Transexuals are living their lives in the real world. The men on here are not a part of our life. They are simply outsiders looking in.
We need to stop focusing on the loosers on a computer. They have issues with themselves. Nobody wants them, so they think cutting up on us, because they see us as weaker than them, to make themselves feel good about themselves. Leave these bitter bitchass fools on here. If all the girls left the site, then it would show our power as woman and we are not held down by males who are not even real men



amen!!!!!!

[CORVETTEDUDE]

The problem is not us. Which is why most girls have left this site.
Its 2011.
Transexuals are living their lives in the REAL world. The men on here are not a part of our life. They are simply outsiders looking in.
We need to stop focusing on the loosers on a computer. They have issues with themselves. Nobody wants them, so they think cutting up on us, because they see us as weaker than them, to make themselves feel good about themselves. Leave these bitter bitchass fools on here. If all the girls left the site, then it would show OUR power as woman and we are not held down by males who are not even real men

Vanessa...are you including each and every male in this forum, in this statement?

[robertlouis]

Vanessa...are you including each and every male in this forum, in this statement?

Yep, all generalisations have a fundamental flaw, including this one.

I think that both Vanessa and Birgitta are right to some extent, but it's just as wrong for them to extend that belief on a blanket basis to all male users on the forum as it is for those who want to impose their own narrow definition of what a tgirl should or shouldn't be across every girl poster here.

Diversity, people. We're all different. Try respecting that for a change.

[SirCumsAlot]

The problem is not us. Which is why most girls have left this site.
Its 2011.
Transexuals are living their lives in the REAL world. The men on here are not a part of our life. They are simply outsiders looking in.
We need to stop focusing on the loosers on a computer. They have issues with themselves. Nobody wants them, so they think cutting up on us, because they see us as weaker than them, to make themselves feel good about themselves. Leave these bitter bitchass fools on here. If all the girls left the site, then it would show OUR power as woman and we are not held down by males who are not even real men

Not to poke a nerve or anything, but um... I see this being done ALOT more the other way around as far as people hating themselves and trying to down others to bring their spirits up. I steady seeing tgirls trying to attack men on here for whatever reasons, calling them loosers, like how you just said in the post, fags, cock hounds, ect, ect... Not to call you out or anything but you yourself is a well known victim on this site with the classic Freddie situation. There were times he never mention you for days and weeks and you would still be going at him, but thats old news. There's also others on here who steady calling people loosers and bla bla. I'm sure if I had the time or cared enough to do so, I could dig up like 20 threads of ya'll tgirls attacking men on here. I'd just though I try to defend for us men out here :)! *but if im doing a bad job... oh well! I just state the facts when i post

[TsVanessa69]

Vanessa...are you including each and every male in this forum, in this statement?
No, Ed would be the exception for Chicago. He meets with us in public, we go eat with him, he treats us normal and we never see him as a tranny chaser or an outsider looking in. Then there are those wonderful guys in LA, so not ALL but 97.5% of the men on Hung Angels have never dealt with a ts in real life, don't have the balls to do it and caused all the girls to leave.
Hung Angels could have been a decent site, but REAL life is better than what should have been a safespace for tg woman to get to know men who admire us.
Now you guys are stuck with clollecting pics of girls you will never meet so you can cut them up.

[TsVanessa69]

Yep, all generalisations have a fundamental flaw, including this one.

I think that both Vanessa and Birgitta are right to some extent, but it's just as wrong for them to extend that belief on a blanket basis to all male users on the forum as it is for those who want to impose their own narrow definition of what a tgirl should or shouldn't be across every girl poster here.

Diversity, people. We're all different. Try respecting that for a change.
so when we flip the script and treat you like you treat us, we are wrong?? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[TsVanessa69]

Not to poke a nerve or anything, but um... I see this being done ALOT more the other way around as far as people hating themselves and trying to down others to bring their spirits up. I steady seeing tgirls trying to attack men on here for whatever reasons, calling them loosers, like how you just said in the post, fags, cock hounds, ect, ect... Not to call you out or anything but you yourself is a well known victim on this site with the classic Freddie situation. There were times he never mention you for days and weeks and you would still be going at him, but thats old news. There's also others on here who steady calling people loosers and bla bla. I'm sure if I had the time or cared enough to do so, I could dig up like 20 threads of ya'll tgirls attacking men on here. I'd just though I try to defend for us men out here :)! *but if im doing a bad job... oh well! I just state the facts when i post
Like I said, this site has become a joke and yea I speak up when i see bullshit but realitically I don't give a fuck how people on HA see me. The people I deal with in REAL life are all that count. To be my friend is a privilage. I have made friends on here, and you know what, they no longer log on here either.
Its 2011, the real world and transwoman is different. Hung Angles is now a waste of OUR time and its sad to see how dumb men are.

[robertlouis]

so when we flip the script and treat you like you treat us, we are wrong?? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

I don't treat women, transsexual or otherwise, with anything other than the utmost respect, Vanessa. One of my closest friends is an old university mate who transitioned in her early thirties, and I stood by her when most of her "friends" faded. There's never been anything sexual between us, but the fact that she's asked me to give her away at her civil partnership ceremony in a few months makes me prouder than I've ever been.

So please don't generalise. I was pleading for an end to that.

[TsVanessa69]

I don't treat women, transsexual or otherwise, with anything other than the utmost respect, Vanessa. One of my closest friends is an old university mate who transitioned in her early thirties, and I stood by her when most of her "friends" faded. There's never been anything sexual between us, but the fact that she's asked me to give her away at her civil partnership ceremony in a few months makes me prouder than I've ever been.

So please don't generalise. I was pleading for an end to that.
But you were never part of the problem sweetie. I did say 97.5% not 100%

[SirCumsAlot]

Like I said, this site has become a joke and yea I speak up when i see bullshit but realitically I don't give a fuck how people on HA see me. The people I deal with in REAL life are all that count. To be my friend is a privilage. I have made friends on here, and you know what, they no longer log on here either.
Its 2011, the real world and transwoman is different. Hung Angles is now a waste of OUR time and its sad to see how dumb men are.

haha thats cool and all but there you go again attacking! Even in your last post where u said "you guys are stuck with clollecting pics of girls you will never meet so you can cut them up." I've meant my share fare of absolutely gorgeous tgirls in the past, and will continue to do so in the future once I move, so comments like these don't effect me, but I'm using what u post as a example of how YOU, a tgirl, are attacking, us men, on these forums

Your friends may not be logging on from, "the real world", but you're still logging on... Lot's of tgirls either don't have accounts to sites like this or if they do, they don't log on here posting negative opinions and they are actually "living life", rather than trying to steady downgrade people for whatever reason online, in which I can name a quite a few tgirls on here who do but I'm not going to call out no one. If this site is so bad nowadays you don't need to visit. Create a different website/web forum and make it better than HA

[robertlouis]

But you were never part of the problem sweetie. I did say 97.5% not 100%

LOL Checkmate, Vanessa! :)

[CORVETTEDUDE]

No, Ed would be the exception for Chicago. He meets with us in public, we go eat with him, he treats us normal and we never see him as a tranny chaser or an outsider looking in. Then there are those wonderful guys in LA, so not ALL but 97.5% of the men on Hung Angels have never dealt with a ts in real life, don't have the balls to do it and caused all the girls to leave.
Hung Angels could have been a decent site, but REAL life is better than what should have been a safespace for tg woman to get to know men who admire us.
Now you guys are stuck with clollecting pics of girls you will never meet so you can cut them up.


I would hope I can be included in the 2.5%.

[robertlouis]

I would hope I can be included in the 2.5%.

Just like the rest of the 97.5% LOL.

Nowt personal M8 - you set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down! :dancing::dancing::dancing:

[TsVanessa69]

haha thats cool and all but there you go again attacking! Even in your last post where u said "you guys are stuck with clollecting pics of girls you will never meet so you can cut them up." I've meant my share fare of absolutely gorgeous tgirls in the past, and will continue to do so in the future once I move, so comments like these don't effect me, but I'm using what u post as a example of how YOU, a tgirl, are attacking, us men, on these forums

Your friends may not be logging on from, "the real world", but you're still logging on... Lot's of tgirls either don't have accounts to sites like this or if they do, they don't log on here posting negative opinions and they are actually "living life", rather than trying to steady downgrade people for whatever reason online, in which I can name a quite a few tgirls on here who do but I'm not going to call out no one. If this site is so bad nowadays you don't need to visit. Create a different website/web forum and make it better than HA
I did, Facebook, lol.
I meet men who wine and dine and bring roses. I pop in here from time to time, and see the same shit thats not relevant to a ts in 2011. And I don't see many girls posting here like before.

[Birgitta]

But you were never part of the problem sweetie. I did say 97.5% not 100%

So true, if there were a hung angels meet up and id know there would only be guys like you, i would definetely be there.

And i would be different on this forum also and try to make friends here,
But tha 97% of the guys here trigger me to much to feel free to be who i am...i better stick with the guy that is respectfull in real life and the friends that truely support me, without blinking an eye
I have no problems with men in real life, quite the contrary, online is a different story

[TsVanessa69]

So true, if there were a hung angels meet up and id know there would only be guys like you, i would definetely be there.

And i would be different on this forum also and try to make friends here,
But tha 97% of the guys here trigger me to much to feel free to be who i am...i better stick with the guy that is respectfull in real life and the friends that truely support me, without blinking an eye
I have no problems with men in real life, quite the contrary, online is a different story
You hit the nail on the head sis!

[LittleGuy]

Why does Vanessa seem so bitter all the time? Do you need somebody to talk too?


FYI I deal with ts all the time.

[TsVanessa69]

Guys forgot that transexuals don't NEED Hung Angels!
BUT HA needs trannys. You guys copy and paste and collect and critique. Then girls left. So now you stuck with pics and rude comments about people you never had a chnce in hell of meeting in real life anyway.
Its 2011, people, catch up or get left behind!

[TsVanessa69]

Why does Vanessa seem so bitter all the time? Do you need somebody to talk too?


FYI I deal with ts all the time.
How come every time you make a comment on this board, no matter the topic, its ALWAYS negative?
Saying you deal with ts, and actually dealing with them are 2 different things. Your posting pattern contadicts why u just said Mary.

[LittleGuy]

Who cares if girls leave this site. The ladies on here don't care about men at all. They only care about money. All you have to do is call their ad and bam you can meet them. THIS IS JUST THE INTERNET!

[SirCumsAlot]

Who cares if girls leave this site. The ladies on here don't care about men at all. They only care about money. All you have to do is call their ad and bam you can meet them. THIS IS JUST THE INTERNET!

lol haha he does have a point. It is that easy to see a tgirl...

[LittleGuy]

How come every time you make a comment on this board, no matter the topic, its ALWAYS negative?
Saying you deal with ts, and actually dealing with them are 2 different things. Your posting pattern contadicts why u just said Mary.

Why did you make many negative post about black men?

[Birgitta]

Who cares if girls leave this site. The ladies on here don't care about men at all. They only care about money. All you have to do is call their ad and bam you can meet them. THIS IS JUST THE INTERNET!

Thats one of the reasons i dont escort lol

[Silcc69]

Am I the only guy on here that wants to see Freddie and Vanessa fuck each other lol!?

[TsVanessa69]

Who cares if girls leave this site. The ladies on here don't care about men at all. They only care about money. All you have to do is call their ad and bam you can meet them. THIS IS JUST THE INTERNET!
You guys don't care about us eother. You wanna use us to fulfill your secrets then go back to ya wife. Bitch please, you don't get it both ways. You can pay me and use me or you can be in a relationship or at least normal and see me as a woman.
So yea, the only thing a man is good for is the money he puts down on the table.
Female or ts, its the same shit, just females didnt catch on as fast as ts did.

[LittleGuy]

Am I the only guy on here that wants to see Freddie and Vanessa fuck each other lol!?

Vanessa wants Freddie to fuck her badly.

[TsVanessa69]

Vanessa wants Freddie to fuck her badly.
I think one of your guys want freddy. freddy doesnt even like tgirls, and does not have sex with them. I just find freddy entertaining because of his bullshit.
Plus I am dating somebody at the moment, so I only see paying clients.
Oh yea and my guy is ok with my puffy cheeks.
It was not an issue at dinner on Mothers Day as I trades beauty secrets with his mom and sisters. His mother even helped to sponsor me so I can compete in a Miss Continental Prelim.

[TsVanessa69]

lol haha he does have a point. It is that easy to see a tgirl...
Exactly why the girls left this site. Why deal with asshole who are broke and tear us down, when we can post up on backpage and get paid????

[TsVanessa69]

Thats one of the reasons i dont escort lol
I would rather get p[aid and finance a better life than let the same guys use me for free.
Its common sense.

[Birgitta]

I would rather get p[aid and finance a better life than let the same guys use me for free.
Its common sense.

i think you'r right!
yet im not strong enough for it, id get lost real quick im sure,
Im am overly sensitive lol

[TsVanessa69]

i think you'r right!
yet im not strong enough for it, id get lost real quick im sure,
Im am overly sensitive lol
Yea I understand , its not for everybody. I just realized that the same liffe path is not for everyone. And escorting is what u make it. But I am not ashamed to be an escort.
Realisticly speaking its more ups than downs. The reason men complain is cuz they want their cake and eat it too.
I say you gave me a hard life growing up and evolving into the woman I am now.
Now that I have eveolved, I should enjoy the easy way out.
Don't hire me in your company, but pay me to be your side piece?
Fine with me, ame money, no boss, no work hours, no stress or drama.
Think about it!

[Birgitta]

Yea I understand , its not for everybody. I just realized that the same liffe path is not for everyone. And escorting is what u make it. But I am not ashamed to be an escort.
Realisticly speaking its more ups than downs. The reason men complain is cuz they want their cake and eat it too.
I say you gave me a hard life growing up and evolving into the woman I am now.
Now that I have eveolved, I should enjoy the easy way out.
Don't hire me in your company, but pay me to be your side piece?
Fine with me, ame money, no boss, no work hours, no stress or drama.
Think about it!

Yeah i can understand that!!!
And no one should never be ashamed to be an escort,
Besides as a ts, its kind of useless to keep up any "reputation" of being good and pure, coz being ts alone is considered to be more wrong by some then anything lol and most tranny chasers just want to use us anyway
I gave up on being a woman for others...even though i probably am one for my friends family and lover...i just focus on how to make my life worthwhile by focussing on the things that really inspire me and make me happy...
And this hung angel visit was interesting but temporary entertainment...

[TsVanessa69]

Yeah i can understand that!!!
And no one should never be ashamed to be an escort,
Besides as a ts, its kind of useless to keep up any "reputation" of being good and pure, coz being ts alone is considered to be more wrong by some then anything lol and most tranny chasers just want to use us anyway
I gave up on being a woman for others...even though i probably am one for my friends family and lover...i just focus on how to make my life worthwhile by focussing on the things that really inspire me and make me happy...
And this hung angel visit was interesting but temporary entertainment...
AMEN! These men need to realize, we didnt transition for them or to make them happy or fulfill their needs.
Abnd trans woman are realizing now WE have the upper hand and WE make the rules.
Men to a ts are only eye candy and pleasing sexual partners who we can only hope will love us to some point.
I use the same rules for my men that I learned from men.
My current boyfriend is young, VERY good looking, very well endowed and has no issue with giving me head.
Me and his family are kool, and thats a big plus. But then when I log on here I realize how far behind in time and the world this site has become.

[Birgitta]

Yes its mind boggling to think there are so many guys out there that think we transitioned just for them...and think we should be glad and praise them for wanting to fuck us...
If a guy is good and knows how to treat me with respect, he gets the best treatment, but these types obsessing over us on the internet wanting stealth girls coz they are afraid to even remotely be associated with tgirls, i dont see why i should be polite to them. They are often rude to begin with, but they think they can, just coz we are a ts.

But we are not just that, we are unique and special and we should demand respect from boyfriends we date coz we deserve it, i fight for them to the end, they should fight for me...

A good man cannot easely be replaced, but a nice tgirl is rare also..

We are not the underdog anymore, we are equals now

[TsVanessa69]

Yes its mind boggling to think there are so many guys out there that think we transitioned just for them...and think we should be glad and praise them for wanting to fuck us...
If a guy is good and knows how to treat me with respect, he gets the best treatment, but these types obsessing over us on the internet wanting stealth girls coz they are afraid to even remotely be associated with tgirls, i dont see why i should be polite to them. They are often rude to begin with, but they think they can, just coz we are a ts.

But we are not just that, we are unique and special and we should demand respect from boyfriends we date coz we deserve it, i fight for them to the end, they should fight for me...

A good man cannot easely be replaced, but a nice tgirl is rare also..

We are not the underdog anymore, we are equals now
Equal or above average!
And we should stop letting men treat us the way they do.
We don't need a man
We are not weak like females either
I am an active part of many discussions with females and men on facebook. sometimes I am the only trans woman in the discussions, BUT females are wishing they had our looks, our confidence and our balls!
The days of holding the fact that they have a vagina so they are better than us are dissolved.
A pretty bitch with a dick is where its at now!
Rise up girls and get yours!

[Birgitta]

I like the way you put it vanessa,
Its empowering!

Ive spend most my life thinking and believing i was less of a human, less of a woman etc
for being different...

I wish i had known this before but im strong enough now, i live full time, i appreciate and love myself,

I have my own unique beauty and personality and i am witty...
Im not so much proud to be a ts but i love myself enough to make sure im with a man that appreciates that im a different and special girl

[kaiser1one]

I speak the truth when I say someone would benefit if they gained a little weight to go with their boob job. Like Kimber. Her boobs are huge compared to her body frame and it just doesnt look normal. If she gained a little weight then it'd balance out.

[Bobzz]

Equal or above average!
And we should stop letting men treat us the way they do.
We don't need a man
We are not weak like females either
I am an active part of many discussions with females and men on facebook. sometimes I am the only trans woman in the discussions, BUT females are wishing they had our looks, our confidence and our balls!
The days of holding the fact that they have a vagina so they are better than us are dissolved.
A pretty bitch with a dick is where its at now!
Rise up girls and get yours!

The Steve Martin Luther King of Trannies has spoken! Vanessa, please stop taking all of your drugs at once, they make you sound so silly.

[LittleGuy]

Just because I don't pay for sex you call me broke?

[TsVanessa69]

I like the way you put it vanessa,
Its empowering!

Ive spend most my life thinking and believing i was less of a human, less of a woman etc
for being different...

I wish i had known this before but im strong enough now, i live full time, i appreciate and love myself,

I have my own unique beauty and personality and i am witty...
Im not so much proud to be a ts but i love myself enough to make sure im with a man that appreciates that im a different and special girl
I think many girls feel the same.
We are different and we are special.
We go above and beyond to get what we want.
We suffer alot, then come a pont in your life you can turn the tabels.
Yes I am a tranny, no I an not a man or a female.
I don't need or want a vaigina, its not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

I escort for the money and the lesson I am teaching.
I am educated and can hold a 9-5 job, live, function and contribute to society as the woman I am.
Yet men are dogs, and closed mineded, but want head, ass or dick.
They want their cake and eat it too.
So I better get paid!
I'll be daymed if I am going to deal with bullshit and let myself be USED!
I no longer differenciate clients from boytoys, ITS ALL THE SAME!!
Some clients could be good boyfriends, but are not MAN enough.
But that also means I stepped up my escort game to accomidate.
Any man in my life is only there if he serves a purpose.
If you cannot contibute to my happiness at the moment, you are thrown out immideatly.
See men forget that I am the queen, I make the rules!
To be around me is a privilage.
Thats why the bullshit on HA is just that, BULLSHIT!

[TsVanessa69]

The Steve Martin Luther King of Trannies has spoken! Vanessa, please stop taking all of your drugs at once, they make you sound so silly.
Im sorry what I say is truth and struck a nerve in you.
But deep down inside we know its true.
Not all mens life plan include children.
Sometimes females get pregnant to trap a man.
Or "accidentally" get knocked up.
Transexuals have raised the bar in many departments, surpassing our female counterparts.
Therefor for some men a transexual is a BETTER option for them than a female.
Its called common sense, thinking ourside of the box and keeping up with evolution!
Now because you don't have the mental; capacity to comprehend what I am saying, doesn't mean its not truth!

[TsVanessa69]

I speak the truth when I say someone would benefit if they gained a little weight to go with their boob job. Like Kimber. Her boobs are huge compared to her body frame and it just doesnt look normal. If she gained a little weight then it'd balance out.Guys like you are the reason girls leave

[TsVanessa69]

The Steve Martin Luther King of Trannies has spoken! Vanessa, please stop taking all of your drugs at once, they make you sound so silly.
And my thought pattern has made me a keynote speaker on trans issues and lifestyle this May 18th at The Center on Halsted right here in Chicago. Like I said, HA and some of the asswipes on here may not like me and how I see things, BUT I am like and respected where it counts, off a computer and in the REAL world! I am a leader not a follower!

[GrimFusion]

Im sorry what I say is truth and struck a nerve in you.
But deep down inside we know its true.
Not all mens life plan include children.
Sometimes females get pregnant to trap a man.
Or "accidentally" get knocked up.
Transexuals have raised the bar in many departments, surpassing our female counterparts.
Therefor for some men a transexual is a BETTER option for them than a female.
Its called common sense, thinking ourside of the box and keeping up with evolution!
Now because you don't have the mental; capacity to comprehend what I am saying, doesn't mean its not truth!

I don't argue with you much. Usually you have some valid points, but the boasting is getting kinda old and you're starting to sound a little hypocritical. If you're really going to go as far as suggesting all the ladies leave the site, what's been keeping you around for so long?

I don't understand why this is such a blown up issue. Sure, it's disrespectful. I get that. I'm not the kind of dude to impose my opinions, but I see it happening a lot around here. Hell, there was a dude on the last page who thought he was actually complimenting Kimber James by suggesting she gain weight. My perspective is if a chick is willing to drop thousands of dollars into surgeries and therapies, she probably thought everything through before committing to them. As a dude, I know that if I don't like what I see, I can move on... and the same chick will likely still have a line of dudes beggin' for freebies and I can find someone more my tastes without insulting anybody.

By the way, Vanessa... I really dig the way you assume we're all just a bunch of dim-witted computer nerds who don't have personal lives. You sure post around here pretty often, girl. Kinda the pot calling the kettle black.

Lastly, there's nothing that makes a transsexual "better" than a genetic female. It's different strokes for different folks. I know you're just trying to 'root for the home team', but it sounds a tad overzealous. Gay men, lesbians, and sterile chicks could make the exact same argument. I think anybody who's transgendered should definitely be given more respect or props than a GG though. Transitioning is a bitch, and GGs don't even have to deal with it.

[Birgitta]

Its called common sense, thinking ourside of the box and keeping up with evolution!
Now because you don't have the mental; capacity to comprehend what I am saying, doesn't mean its not truth!


Hahaha !
well put!!!!!

[Birgitta]

Im sorry what I say is truth and struck a nerve in you.
But deep down inside we know its true.
Not all mens life plan include children.
Sometimes females get pregnant to trap a man.
Or "accidentally" get knocked up.
Transexuals have raised the bar in many departments, surpassing our female counterparts.
Therefor for some men a transexual is a BETTER option for them than a female.
Its called common sense, thinking ourside of the box and keeping up with evolution!
Now because you don't have the mental; capacity to comprehend what I am saying, doesn't mean its not truth!


I don't argue with you much. Usually you have some valid points, but the boasting is getting kinda old and you're starting to sound a little hypocritical. If you're really going to go as far as suggesting all the ladies leave the site, what's been keeping you around for so long?

I don't understand why this is such a blown up issue. Sure, it's disrespectful. I get that. I'm not the kind of dude to impose my opinions, but I see it happening a lot around here. Hell, there was a dude on the last page who thought he was actually complimenting Kimber James by suggesting she gain weight. My perspective is if a chick is willing to drop thousands of dollars into surgeries and therapies, she probably thought everything through before committing to them. As a dude, I know that if I don't like what I see, I can move on... and the same chick will likely still have a line of dudes beggin' for freebies and I can find someone more my tastes without insulting anybody.

By the way, Vanessa... I really dig the way you assume we're all just a bunch of dim-witted computer nerds who don't have personal lives. You sure post around here pretty often, girl. Kinda the pot calling the kettle black.

Lastly, there's nothing that makes a transsexual "better" than a genetic female. It's different strokes for different folks. I know you're just trying to 'root for the home team', but it sounds a tad overzealous. Gay men, lesbians, and sterile chicks could make the exact same argument. I think anybody who's transgendered should definitely be given more respect or props than a GG though. Transitioning is a bitch, and GGs don't even have to deal with it.

Lifebefore transition is a bitch and that i survived that is my big accomplishment

[TsVanessa69]

I don't argue with you much. Usually you have some valid points, but the boasting is getting kinda old and you're starting to sound a little hypocritical. If you're really going to go as far as suggesting all the ladies leave the site, what's been keeping you around for so long?

I don't understand why this is such a blown up issue. Sure, it's disrespectful. I get that. I'm not the kind of dude to impose my opinions, but I see it happening a lot around here. Hell, there was a dude on the last page who thought he was actually complimenting Kimber James by suggesting she gain weight. My perspective is if a chick is willing to drop thousands of dollars into surgeries and therapies, she probably thought everything through before committing to them. As a dude, I know that if I don't like what I see, I can move on... and the same chick will likely still have a line of dudes beggin' for freebies and I can find someone more my tastes without insulting anybody.

By the way, Vanessa... I really dig the way you assume we're all just a bunch of dim-witted computer nerds who don't have personal lives. You sure post around here pretty often, girl. Kinda the pot calling the kettle black.

Lastly, there's nothing that makes a transsexual "better" than a genetic female. It's different strokes for different folks. I know you're just trying to 'root for the home team', but it sounds a tad overzealous. Gay men, lesbians, and sterile chicks could make the exact same argument. I think anybody who's transgendered should definitely be given more respect or props than a GG though. Transitioning is a bitch, and GGs don't even have to deal with it.
I said 97.5%. I almost thought you wre a part of the 2.5, i guess i ws wrong

[GrimFusion]

I said 97.5%. I almost thought you wre a part of the 2.5, i guess i ws wrong
Clearly. Call me Mr. 3%.

When are you and Birgitta going to stop getting high off your own farts? It's starting to stink up in this piece. lol.

[Bobzz]

Im sorry what I say is truth and struck a nerve in you.
But deep down inside we know its true.
Not all mens life plan include children.
Sometimes females get pregnant to trap a man.
Or "accidentally" get knocked up.
Transexuals have raised the bar in many departments, surpassing our female counterparts.
Therefor for some men a transexual is a BETTER option for them than a female.
Its called common sense, thinking ourside of the box and keeping up with evolution!
Now because you don't have the mental; capacity to comprehend what I am saying, doesn't mean its not truth!

I comprehend you completely Vanessa, your view just happens to be your truth ... not everyone's truth.

[Birgitta]

Vanessa is the first person on this board that makes me laugh and uplifts me...cant think of one guy here that did, apart from robert perhaps...

Allthough im a different type of girl with different lifepath, i appreciate her very much for sharing her view and it inspires me, make me feel good, and think, everyone has something usefull to say and you can learn from others,

But i cant learn anything else from most guys on this board coz its all stuff i already know, it has no energy or spirit in the words, its all bla bla endlessly...lol...

Not much originality here

[GrimFusion]

But i cant learn anything else from most guys on this board coz its all stuff i already know, it has no energy or spirit in the words, its all bla bla endlessly...lol...

Not much originality here

Welcome to a forum on the internet. New around here? I'll show ya around.

[SirCumsAlot]

...wow...

[kaiser1one]

I think many girls feel the same.
We are different and we are special.
We go above and beyond to get what we want.
We suffer alot, then come a pont in your life you can turn the tabels.
Yes I am a tranny, no I an not a man or a female.
I don't need or want a vaigina, its not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

I escort for the money and the lesson I am teaching.
I am educated and can hold a 9-5 job, live, function and contribute to society as the woman I am.
Yet men are dogs, and closed mineded, but want head, ass or dick.
They want their cake and eat it too.
So I better get paid!
I'll be daymed if I am going to deal with bullshit and let myself be USED!
I no longer differenciate clients from boytoys, ITS ALL THE SAME!!
Some clients could be good boyfriends, but are not MAN enough.
But that also means I stepped up my escort game to accomidate.
Any man in my life is only there if he serves a purpose.
If you cannot contibute to my happiness at the moment, you are thrown out immideatly.
See men forget that I am the queen, I make the rules!
To be around me is a privilage.
Thats why the bullshit on HA is just that, BULLSHIT!

And this is why GG are avoided at times. Attitudes like that.

[Silcc69]

I speak the truth when I say someone would benefit if they gained a little weight to go with their boob job. Like Kimber. Her boobs are huge compared to her body frame and it just doesnt look normal. If she gained a little weight then it'd balance out.

She's clockwork my dude.

[dderek123]

I think many girls feel the same.
We are different and we are special.
We go above and beyond to get what we want.
We suffer alot, then come a pont in your life you can turn the tabels.
Yes I am a tranny, no I an not a man or a female.
I don't need or want a vaigina, its not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

I escort for the money and the lesson I am teaching.
I am educated and can hold a 9-5 job, live, function and contribute to society as the woman I am.
Yet men are dogs, and closed mineded, but want head, ass or dick.
They want their cake and eat it too.
So I better get paid!
I'll be daymed if I am going to deal with bullshit and let myself be USED!
I no longer differenciate clients from boytoys, ITS ALL THE SAME!!
Some clients could be good boyfriends, but are not MAN enough.
But that also means I stepped up my escort game to accomidate.
Any man in my life is only there if he serves a purpose.
If you cannot contibute to my happiness at the moment, you are thrown out immideatly.
See men forget that I am the queen, I make the rules!
To be around me is a privilage.
Thats why the bullshit on HA is just that, BULLSHIT!
:iagree: Another cool post from Vanessa. She tends to paint all men with the same brush. But, I imagine that her life experience has given her that understanding.

[robertlouis]

I speak the truth when I say someone would benefit if they gained a little weight to go with their boob job. Like Kimber. Her boobs are huge compared to her body frame and it just doesnt look normal. If she gained a little weight then it'd balance out.

Ummm, I guess you hadn't realised this thread had sort of moved on..... :hide-1:

[robertlouis]

Lifebefore transition is a bitch and that i survived that is my big accomplishment

Well said, Birgitta. Neither I nor any of the other men on this forum can even begin to understand the torment, determination and courage that any ts has to go through in order to fulfil the person they know themselves to be.

We ought to remember that before swinging into automatic attack dog mode.

[slingblade]

Yes its mind boggling to think there are so many guys out there that think we transitioned just for them...and think we should be glad and praise them for wanting to fuck us...
If a guy is good and knows how to treat me with respect, he gets the best treatment, but these types obsessing over us on the internet wanting stealth girls coz they are afraid to even remotely be associated with tgirls, i dont see why i should be polite to them. They are often rude to begin with, but they think they can, just coz we are a ts.

But we are not just that, we are unique and special and we should demand respect from boyfriends we date coz we deserve it, i fight for them to the end, they should fight for me...

A good man cannot easely be replaced, but a nice tgirl is rare also..

We are not the underdog anymore, we are equals now


you;re just killing my ego baby.. You mean you didn't transition just so guys like me would want to fuck you??? LOL.. I'm joking cutie, but umm not about wanting to fuck you.. :salad