Am i the only one

[FreddieGomez]

who thinks trannies should be bottoms? ....i dont understand...if a trannie wants to be a top so bad why don't she just remain a man and live as a gay dude? when i learn a trannie is a top or likes to top it turns me off, and i'm not interested in trannie topping porn. to me it defeats the purpose of them being trannies. But this is only my opinion. anybody else agree?

[onmyknees]

You're either struggling to be relevent....or funny Fred. Either way it just ain't workin' out for ya.

[FreddieGomez]

the same people always riding my dick...............

[robertlouis]

Yes Freddie.

You're the only one.

[lady killer]

100% agree with freddie (this is dopearope)

i hate watchign tranny porn and seeing a tgirl fucking a dude..instant boner killer

[FreddieGomez]

100% agree with freddie (this is dopearope)

i hate watchign tranny porn and seeing a tgirl fucking a dude..instant boner killer

:iagree:

[rockabilly]

I prefer them to bottom , it's just what i like.

:shrug:

[Mayrah]

Ever thought that some people just dont like anal sex you dumbass.

Seriously, why is EVERY THREAD YOU MAKE TO PISS ON SOMETHING YOU DONT LIKE?

IF ITS NOT YOUR THING, THEN MOVE THE FUCK ON.

[betts]

100% agree with freddie (this is dopearope)

i hate watchign tranny porn and seeing a tgirl fucking a dude..instant boner killer


this.

[Jericho]

Fuck me sideways, i'm agreeing with the leprechaun in the hood!

[BellaBellucci]

Preferences aside, it's not your place to tell someone how to live their life, is it? I just spent a week with a couple of girls who quite openly wished they had penises and were actually jealous of me. Ironic, right? Since I wish I had a vagina? Well what does that say to you? I know what it says to me: anatomy is not exclusive to either gender, and it shouldn't be.

As far as using that anatomy, we all do the best we can with the hand that we're dealt. Just because I can't have a Bentley, it doesn't mean I should stop driving my Acura.

~BB~

PS: I only top for money (or with GGs on rare occasion), just to give this post some perspective.

[amberskyi]

100 fucking percent bottom here...i like getting head tho lol

[FreddieGomez]

100 fucking percent bottom here...i like getting head tho lol

well i'll fuck u and we can find a genetic chick to give u head cuz i ain't doin it.

[BellaBellucci]

well i'll fuck u and we can find a genetic chick to give u head cuz i ain't doin it.

Why a GG?! I'd do it in a heartbeat. :dancing:

~BB~

[robertlouis]

well i'll fuck u and we can find a genetic chick to give u head cuz i ain't doin it.

You know, there are times when I think you crash-landed on this site by mistake lol.

[SammiValentine]

yup only a bottom in my pvt life!!! but if a girl wants to top.. fill her boots!! and me if she likes?!?! ha ha :I

[magus13]

If you like topping sooo much why dont you just fuck GG in the ass. Peoples sexuality is there own business. Why do you have a problem with other peoples preferences. I'm sure many in society would look down on you fucking TS. Live and Let Live. There's enough intolerance in the world. Why be part of the problem.

[Tika]

Freddy, you're a fucking idiot.

That's like saying lesbians should be men if they want to have sex with women. What a person does with their genitals has no bearing on their gender identity, dumbass. Some people like to stick their cocks in vacuum cleaners. Does that mean they should be piles of dirt and not people?

[lady killer]

Preferences aside, it's not your place to tell someone how to live their life, is it? I just spent a week with a couple of girls who quite openly wished they had penises and were actually jealous of me. Ironic, right? Since I wish I had a vagina? Well what does that say to you? I know what it says to me: anatomy is not exclusive to either gender, and it shouldn't be.

As far as using that anatomy, we all do the best we can with the hand that we're dealt. Just because I can't have a Bentley, it doesn't mean I should stop driving my Acura.

~BB~

PS: I only top for money (or with GGs on rare occasion), just to give this post some perspective.

Too long, didn't read tbh.

The men who bottom are worse than the women who top tho imo..

[Mayrah]

You know, there are times when I think you crash-landed on this site by mistake lol.

Hahah im with you on this one.:iagree::wiggle:

[BellaBellucci]

Too long, didn't read tbh.

The men who bottom are worse than the women who top tho imo..

Well thanks for your deep consideration. :rolleyes: :lol: I can't argue your point tho. So many bottom guys are sissies and sissies annoy the shit out of me!

~BB~

[Mayrah]

Too long, didn't read tbh.

The men who bottom are worse than the women who top tho imo..

Another dumbass who cant read past 3 lines and immediatly says what is right or wrong:loser:

[lady killer]

bottom guys disgust me

gonzobear is the 'post your picture' thread has to be the most despicable, hideous human being ever

i wish i could delete my memory of his picture permanently

[onmyknees]

Preferences aside, it's not your place to tell someone how to live their life, is it? I just spent a week with a couple of girls who quite openly wished they had penises and were actually jealous of me. Ironic, right? Since I wish I had a vagina? Well what does that say to you? I know what it says to me: anatomy is not exclusive to either gender, and it shouldn't be.

As far as using that anatomy, we all do the best we can with the hand that we're dealt. Just because I can't have a Bentley, it doesn't mean I should stop driving my Acura.

~BB~

PS: I only top for money (or with GGs on rare occasion), just to give this post some perspective.


Yea...but are you good at it?? ( topping for cash)

[lady killer]

Another dumbass who cant read past 3 lines and immediatly says what is right or wrong:loser:

im not reading any emotional outbursts and 10 page novels tbh

keep your posts under 7000 characters and i'll read

[robertlouis]

Well thanks for your deep consideration. :rolleyes: :lol:

~BB~

ROFLMAO.

Ladeez an' gents, I give you Miss Sarcasm 2011, Bella Bellucci!

[BellaBellucci]

Yea...but are you good at it?? ( topping for cash)

If the atmosphere is right and my guy is clean and not a sissy about it? Yeah, I can have a good time with it. But this shit where they bend over and present an unclean, unshaven ass 5 minutes into the session and whine about how much they've been dying to get fucked? That shit's dead. :lol:


ROFLMAO.

Ladeez an' gents, I give you Miss Sarcasm 2011, Bella Bellucci!

... don't forget about my lifetime achievement award. :dancing:


im not reading any emotional outbursts and 10 page novels tbh

keep your posts under 7000 characters and i'll read

Are you serious? :geek:

~BB~

[Mayrah]

im not reading any emotional outbursts and 10 page novels tbh

keep your posts under 7000 characters and i'll read

LOL and here you are proving what i just said. Are you Freddie in disguise?:dancing:

[Mayrah]

If the atmosphere is right and my guy is clean and not a sissy about it? Yeah, I can have a good time with it. But this shit where they bend over and present an unclean, unshaven ass 5 minutes into the session and whine about how much they've been dying to get fucked? That shit's dead. :lol:

~BB~

lol:wiggle:

[lady killer]

Would you fuck Gonzobear, Bella Belluci?

[BellaBellucci]

Would you fuck Gonzobear, Bella Belluci?

Who? Sorry, I don't pay attention to the mens' circle jerk thraADs.

~BB~

[amberskyi]

well i'll fuck u and we can find a genetic chick to give u head cuz i ain't doin it.

fuck thats shit.if you can eat a girls pussy than you can sure as hell put my dick in your mouth.
no one puts their cock in my ass without putting mines in theirs mouth.
"this junk in my trunk aint made for chumps"

[Mayrah]

^ I agree, your awesome.

[FreddieGomez]

fuck thats shit.if you can eat a girls pussy than you can sure as hell put my dick in your mouth.
no one puts their cock in my ass without putting mines in theirs mouth.
"this junk in my trunk aint made for chumps"

so why do u plan to get the sex change surgery if you like ya dick sucked?

[lady killer]

Who? Sorry, I don't pay attention to the mens' circle jerk thraADs.

~BB~

Behold, the most hideous and despicable sight I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing on the internet.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=493676&postcount=46

[BellaBellucci]

fuck thats shit.if you can eat a girls pussy than you can sure as hell put my dick in your mouth.
no one puts their cock in my ass without putting mines in theirs mouth.
"this junk in my trunk aint made for chumps"

Ohhhh, SNAP! She hit him with the Queen Bee! Or was that Foxy? :?

~BB~

[theone1982]

Who? Sorry, I don't pay attention to the mens' circle jerk thraADs.

~BB~

Ha! Ha! Get out the biscuit for the circle jerk!:) "Would you fuck Gonzobear?" That has to be the weirdest sentence I've seen in awhile!:)

[lady killer]

If I ever go to NY amber will be saying hello to my little friend

[lady killer]

amber why you take down your private gallery with all them ass shots etc?

[amberskyi]

Why a GG?! I'd do it in a heartbeat. :dancing:

~BB~
i need to come to cali ;)

[Jericho]

bottom guys disgust me

gonzobear is the 'post your picture' thread has to be the most despicable, hideous human being ever

i wish i could delete my memory of his picture permanently


Who were you before you got banned?
That's not the first time you've had a go at him?

[lady killer]

dopearope

why did i get banned actually?

[theone1982]

Who were you before you got banned?
That's not the first time you've had a go at him?

Maybe it is him. There's no loathing like self-loathing!:)

[rockabilly]

fuck thats shit.if you can eat a girls pussy than you can sure as hell put my dick in your mouth.
no one puts their cock in my ass without putting mines in theirs mouth.
"this junk in my trunk aint made for chumps"

Is that all i gotta do to put my cock in your ass? To quote George Carlin "I'd take a shot in the mouth".

[BellaBellucci]

Is that all i gotta do to put my cock in your ass? To quote George Carlin "I'd take a shot in the mouth".

Quid pro quo... ya know? :dancing:

~BB~

[amberskyi]

so why do u plan to get the sex change surgery if you like ya dick sucked?

a.im thinking about getting a sex change.its a HUGE life changing decision and one that i dont plan to enter into lightly.if i do get one it will be atleast two years before i make a decision.
b.there are like 4,000 something nerves in my penis.why the hell would i deny myself the pleasure of having those nerves stimulated.this is the only SEX ORGAN i have for now so im going to use it.i dont hate my body that much lol.

[robertlouis]

so why do u plan to get the sex change surgery if you like ya dick sucked?



If you really have to ask that question then there's no hope, sorry.

[BellaBellucci]

a.im thinking about getting a sex change.its a HUGE life changing decision and one that i dont plan to enter into lightly.if i do get one it will be atleast two years before i make a decision.
b.there are like 4,000 something nerves in my penis.why the hell would i deny myself the pleasure of having those nerves stimulated.this is the only SEX ORGAN i have for now so im going to use it.i dont hate my body that much lol.

You. Here. Cali. Definitely. Yes, please. :fuckin:

~BB~

[Jericho]

dopearope

why did i get banned actually?


I don't know, i'm not in charge of banning.
Maybe it was because you were being a cunt, or trying to settle a personal score on the boards?
Guess that's up to you NY guys :shrug

[amberskyi]

amber why you take down your private gallery with all them ass shots etc?

i was dating someone who had potential to be serious and i was preparing for the possibilty of leaving or limiting my interaction in the industry/sex trade.

[rockabilly]

Amber i see your boobie.

[nonnonnon]

Behold, the most hideous and despicable sight I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing on the internet.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=493676&postcount=46
yikes :hide-1:

[lady killer]

I was thoroughly revolted too^

[theone1982]

Behold, the most hideous and despicable sight I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing on the internet.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=493676&postcount=46

The chairs pretty cool though!:)

[Jericho]

If i swallow ya cock can i fuck you in the arse?

[loren]

I prefer them to bottom , it's just what i like.

:shrug::kiss:What a coincidence, I'm a 100% bottom.

[amberskyi]

Amber i see your boobie.

your avatar is sooo emo lol

[theone1982]

Powerbottom? Is that some sort of '80s hair metal band?:)

[robertlouis]

Would you fuck Gonzobear, Bella Belluci?

Well, having had a look at the pix, all I can say is that Susan Boyle has really let herself go.......

[theone1982]

Well, having had a look at the pix, all I can say is that Susan Boyle has really let herself go.......

Oh god no! There goes my boner again!:)

[BellaBellucci]

Oh god no! There goes my boner again!:)

You mean 'here comes' your boner, right?! Come on!

'What's wrong with her? She's beautiful, she's rich, she's got huuuuuuge... tracts of land!'


YouTube - Guards! Make sure the Prince doesn't leave this room ... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YiPC91QUk)

~BB~

[loren]

fuck thats shit.if you can eat a girls pussy than you can sure as hell put my dick in your mouth.
no one puts their cock in my ass without putting mines in theirs mouth.
"this junk in my trunk aint made for chumps"
:iagree:well said

[theone1982]

You mean 'here comes' your boner, right?! Come on!

'What's wrong with her? She's beautiful, she's rich, she's got huuuuuuge... tracts of land!'


YouTube - Guards! Make sure the Prince doesn't leave this room ... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YiPC91QUk)

~BB~

Lol! Nope, it left. just her singing would take care of any erection I might think about having!:)

[rockabilly]

your avatar is sooo emo lol

I know , my heart is broken .... what good is it if all it brings is pain.
and i'm goth! lol
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1413397_o.gif

[rockabilly]

:kiss:What a coincidence, I'm a 100% bottom.

Yeah but are you a goth/emo girl? :p

[Bobzz]

who thinks trannies should be bottoms? ....i dont understand...if a trannie wants to be a top so bad why don't she just remain a man and live as a gay dude? when i learn a trannie is a top or likes to top it turns me off, and i'm not interested in trannie topping porn. to me it defeats the purpose of them being trannies. But this is only my opinion. anybody else agree?

Freddie. here's an observation based on personal experience, even "real live women" like to top, why should transsexuals be any different? I'm not talking necessarily about someone sticking anything up your ass either, it's all about taking charge. Haven't you ever had sex with a genuinely sexually aggressive and self directed woman? If you haven't my friend, you've never been really fucked. Having a pussy or a cock doesn't necessarily define or limit the positions you play on the field, so to speak, and some t-girls are quite content to be in the driver's seat. Not for everyone but if you're fluid it can be an eye opener. I'm thinking I don't agree at all.

[loren]

Yeah but are you a goth/emo girl? :p
Umm not usually,butt I have my days.:kiss:

[amberskyi]

I know , my heart is broken .... what good is it if all it brings is pain.
and i'm goth! lol
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1413397_o.gif

lol.i love that episode.so me in highschool.

[rockabilly]

I still owe you a date Amber.

Maybe when i'm healed and ready.

You too Loren , you like scary movies?

[theone1982]

who thinks trannies should be bottoms? ....i dont understand...if a trannie wants to be a top so bad why don't she just remain a man and live as a gay dude? when i learn a trannie is a top or likes to top it turns me off, and i'm not interested in trannie topping porn. to me it defeats the purpose of them being trannies. But this is only my opinion. anybody else agree?

Isn't the point that they can do both? Isn't saying that a transsexual can't top the verbal equivalent of forcing females to be circumsized, in that it denies them their full sexuality and makes them more of a toy to do whatever you want with, rather than an equal partnership?

[loren]

You too Loren , you like scary movies?
Only if I've got you there to make me feel safe.:kiss:

[maaarc]

I don't anally bottom cause the only head I like up my ass is my own :) however, I can't understand how anyone would not want to suck a beautiful T girl's cock like Amberskyi. incredible! oh well to each his own

[tsnajwa]

If you like topping sooo much why dont you just fuck GG in the ass. Peoples sexuality is there own business. Why do you have a problem with other peoples preferences. I'm sure many in society would look down on you fucking TS. Live and Let Live. There's enough intolerance in the world. Why be part of the problem.


Freddy, you're a fucking idiot.

That's like saying lesbians should be men if they want to have sex with women. What a person does with their genitals has no bearing on their gender identity, dumbass. Some people like to stick their cocks in vacuum cleaners. Does that mean they should be piles of dirt and not people?


:iagree: also not to mention i know plenty of gg's and lesbians that love topping.. its just personal preference.. and it doesnt bother me what other people do with their sex life because you know what? it does not affect me at all... i dont understand why everybody is so obsesse with other people sexuality and preferences.

[GrimFusion]

Sexual preference and gender identity are two totally different subjects.
They don't always go hand-in-hand, and they don't need to.

[LittleGuy]

To be honest I'm getting tired of sex. Does anybody agree with me?

[GrimFusion]

To be honest I'm getting tired of sex. Does anybody agree with me?

Quit using cock-rings.
I think it's cut off some of the blood flow to your brain.

[loren]

Quit using cock-rings.
I think it's cut off some of the blood flow to your brain.
ROFL:dead:

[Jackal]

Why do all transwomen have to prefer the same sexual activity? How about letting them do whatever they want between themselves and other consenting adults? Gender identity is not the same as sexuality.

[BellaBellucci]

This thread brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

~BB~

[GrimFusion]

This thread brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

~BB~

lol... no shit.

FreddieGomez: I have a sexual preference. Why should other people be allowed the right to have their own? Shit don't make no sense! Yo... my head hurts.

[robertlouis]

This thread brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

~BB~


......or to put in more basic language, this thread has now vanished up its own arse and will hopefully be winding itself round the OP's windpipe shortly. :geek:

[LittleGuy]

Quit using cock-rings.
I think it's cut off some of the blood flow to your brain.

Great idea

But

Your mom really loves my rock hard cock.

[Birgitta]

who thinks trannies should be bottoms? ....i dont understand...if a trannie wants to be a top so bad why don't she just remain a man and live as a gay dude? when i learn a trannie is a top or likes to top it turns me off, and i'm not interested in trannie topping porn. to me it defeats the purpose of them being trannies. But this is only my opinion. anybody else agree?

Glad to say i do for a change lol
Top guys that are into tranny's are a treasure and my kind of guy, i dont want anything to do with the bottoms never lol.
And i still think they should find themselves some gay guys instead of bothering us girls with their malfunctional masculinuty lol

[tvkim]

I agree with Freddie here:

Personally I think a T-girl who tops just looks wrong. A t-girl doing the fucking looks like a dude with long hair and tits to me!

No prob with girl on girl toy fun like this tho!

http://s4.postimage.org/qcn13sp1f/DSC06730_1.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)


Pretty girls are meant to get screwed!


http://s3.postimage.org/q0rgy0dro/DSC07016.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

. . . or done with a huge dildo!!

[Prospero]

Strange to find such a lack of understanding the variety of human sexuality as the anti-bottom posts - especially from Birgitta. Does it not occur to you that some men who are into both being topped and who like to top do not find gay men attractive at all, but are very aroused by the beauty of a girl who also has a cock. I fully understand that you, as an individual, have no desire whatsoever to become entangled or involved with such men - but perhaps as a transgendered woman in a world full of prejudice you could be a bit more understanding of difference and the vagaries of human nature? It is ignorance from the wider community that denies those women born into male bodies recognition of their true feminine identities, but also ignorance from this community that insists that men who like transexuals - or who like to bottom - are really just closet gay men.

[Birgitta]

Strange to find such a lack of understanding the variety of human sexuality as the anti-bottom posts - especially from Birgitta. Does it not occur to you that some men who are into both being topped and who like to top do not find gay men attractive at all, but are very aroused by the beauty of a girl who also has a cock. I fully understand that you, as an individual, have no desire whatsoever to become entangled or involved with such men - but perhaps as a transgendered woman in a world full of prejudice you could be a bit more understanding of difference and the vagaries of human nature? It is ignorance from the wider community that denies those women born into male bodies recognition of their true feminine identities, but also ignorance from this community that insists that men who like transexuals - or who like to bottom - are really just closet gay men.


Dont start with me on prejudice, from childhood on i was treated like a freak by "straight" guys, bullied etc, and now i should suddenly be open minded that 99% of the men that like me expect me to be understanding that they want to wear my clothes and be fucked by me???? Talking about prejudice!!!!!! Looooool

Whatever happened to the world i thought was straight and normal. Turns out i am not the one that is strange after all.

And what is wrong with being called gay when you are male and take it up the ass? I have been called gay so many times in my life. And am actually proud of gay men, a lot of them know what life is about, instead of being "straight" and in the closet.

i am actually pretty tired and annoyed by self proclaimed straight men that think they help or support me when bothering me with fetishis their friends dont even know about and that have no relation whatsoever to my life and my transition.

I cant blame the girls that want to make some money with porn that satisfies their desires but it is all a fantasy world. A true tgirl with a feminine id does not want to fuck her bf ever. Every tgirl that has a female hormone balance is not made to penetrate without viagra and stuff like that. The amount of t in a normal female hormone balance that makes any true tgirl feel good is not enough to be able to be masculine in bed to begin with.
and besides i dont buy the fairytale, even some top guys like us coz they expect us to be like horny males in bed.


if you believed in the true feminine id of transwoman you would not be here

[rockabilly]

I'd like you to be a horny female in the bed , it's better when she wants you as much as you want her.

[Birgitta]

I'd like you to be a horny female in the bed , it's better when she wants you as much as you want her.

You are cool baby! And i always do otherwise i would not be with them lol.
I may not sound like it but with the right guy i am actually terribly sweet lol

[Prospero]

Birgitta - I have given my responses to your last post in bold below. The key to my position is respect for all ranges of difference.

Dont start with me on prejudice, from childhood on i was treated like a freak by "straight" guys, bullied etc, and now i should suddenly be open minded that 99% of the men that like me expect me to be understanding that they want to wear my clothes and be fucked by me???? Talking about prejudice!!!!!! Birgitta - so because YOU have faced prejudice it's okay to be prejudiced. that's odd logic.

Whatever happened to the world i thought was straight and normal. Turns out i am not the one that is strange after all. Agreed. I'm 100 per cent on your side here - as i suspect are many guys here.

And what is wrong with being called gay when you are male and take it up the ass? I have been called gay so many times in my life. And am actually proud of gay men, a lot of them know what life is about, instead of being "straight" and in the closet. Again i agree. Nothing wrog with being gay. But you seem to think people are either gay or straight. I know its more complicated. What about those who are interested in biological women but also interested in transgendered woman - both in an active and passive sense? Do you despise them for THEIR difference/ It appears so.

i am actually pretty tired and annoyed by self proclaimed straight men that think they help or support me when bothering me with fetishis their friends dont even know about and that have no relation whatsoever to my life and my transition. I do not bother you with my so called fetishes. How harsh you are in condemning those who are different from you when we are on your side. Once you would have been burned or persecuted for your own identity. Thank god that attitude is considerable gone - though not wholly gone. Plenty of "straight" soiety despies the transgendered. They are wrong. But so are you to be harsh to those who are different from ou.

I cant blame the girls that want to make some money with porn that satisfies their desires but it is all a fantasy world. A true tgirl with a feminine id does not want to fuck her bf ever. Every tgirl that has a female hormone balance is not made to penetrate without viagra and stuff like that. The amount of t in a normal female hormone balance that makes any true tgirl feel good is not enough to be able to be masculine in bed to begin with. Again I agree. But again I insist that all people deserve respect - (with obvious criminal exceptions) and not your harsh condemnation because they are different from you.
and besides i dont buy the fairytale, even some top guys like us coz they expect us to be like horny males in bed.I don't get this point? Yes some men don't understand that a truly transgendered woman wants to live and be treated as a woman. You'll get no suggestion from me at all that you should live or be treated any other way. And if you believed in the true feminine id of transwoman you would not be here. Again... you seem to miss what this site is about. It' about - largely - men who admire the beauty and sexuality of transgendered women as THEY conceive them to be in their own minds. Not the reality of a woman like you, but the desire to enjoy the hermaphrodite who can be bnoth a girl and a guy at the same time. Finally perhaps it is you who should not be here. This is - at the end of the day - primarily a site about pornography. Not a nice forum for genuinely nice girls like you to exchange their views on life. Seriously - there are other forums which are free of the porn content which you clearly find so utterly repellent.

[woodywoodsac]

I'm a gay man, but I hate seeing a TS, TG, TV shagging a hairy arsed man.

YUKK!

Total turn off I think

[Prospero]

That's cool Woody... don't watch! Live and let live is my message bro!

[badhusbandforyou]

Birgitta, prospero loves to be passive/bottom with a big dicked TV have a look in what I wrote for him on here :)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=55855

Btw Birgitta I'm a fan of yours, gorgeous! I love feminine bottom girls.

[Prospero]

Badhusband - you are a liar. Yes I enjoy being passive and being active and i have posted many reviews on the reviews strand of both girls. I'm not trying to get to meet Birgitta - simply discussing open mindedness. Badbusband you are a liar and dishonest.

[woodywoodsac]

That's cool Woody... don't watch! Live and let live is my message bro!

Sorry Propero, but it just spoils the whole illusion of femininity for me. Of course we all get turned on by different things, that what makes forums like this such fun

[Prospero]

Of course we all get turned on by different things, that what makes forums like this such fun.... I agree with this 100 per cent.

[robertlouis]

Of course we all get turned on by different things, that what makes forums like this such fun.... I agree with this 100 per cent.

:iagree: Live and let live seems a pretty fair way to go. Well said Prospero.

[Birgitta]

I'm a gay man, but I hate seeing a TS, TG, TV shagging a hairy arsed man.

YUKK!

Total turn off I think

I would totally date you lol instead of the straight fairies looooool

Prospero, thanks for the reply, i will answer later, got to run

[nicebrn]

:iagree: Live and let live seems a pretty fair way to go. Well said Prospero.
You'd think so, but there seems to be a helluva lot of Stop Having Fun Guys in the world. I don't mind so much that they don't like what I like, but it's profoundly irritating when they raise their preferences to some kind of moral judgment.

...whatever. I'll be perfectly happy with the (still very feminine) girls who enjoy topping. There's room enough for all of us in the world.

[robertlouis]

You'd think so, but there seems to be a helluva lot of Stop Having Fun Guys in the world. I don't mind so much that they don't like what I like, but it's profoundly irritating when they raise their preferences to some kind of moral judgment.

...whatever. I'll be perfectly happy with the (still very feminine) girls who enjoy topping. There's room enough for all of us in the world.

Absolutely. I prefer to top pretty well exclusively, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest that other people have other preferences. What a boring place the world would be if everyone was the same.

[BellaBellucci]

I agree with Freddie here:

Personally I think a T-girl who tops just looks wrong. A t-girl doing the fucking looks like a dude with long hair and tits to me!

No prob with girl on girl toy fun like this tho!

Pretty girls are meant to get screwed!

I've tried soooo hard not to engage your 'hotter-than-thou' TV shenanigans, but:

http://www.shemalecherry.com/content/imgs/39/thumb.jpg

http://www.hungdevils.com/uploads/monthly_02_2009/post-18747-1234985948.jpg

http://www.hungdevils.com/uploads/monthly_09_2008/post-8441-1221025894.jpg

Men, right? And then there's you. Seriously. Who do you think you are?

http://www.amyabrahams.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/banksy-elephant-in-room1.jpg

~BB~

[Nowhere]

Yuck. To each their own, but I think the whole point of the OP is that nearly 100% of trans porn has at least SOME part of it where the girl tops the guys, and *shock* not everyone likes it. I really, really would prefer the option to find more porn where there is zero topping of the guys and zero guys sucking cock, but I guess that's what the fast-forward is for, right? ;)

[lady killer]

grimfusion definitely takes it up the ass

battyboy

[Nivek]

Lol I like em top n bottom, I like girls with strapons and hot trannies are hot girls with strapons attached.

[phobun]

Glad to say i do for a change lol
Top guys that are into tranny's are a treasure and my kind of guy, i dont want anything to do with the bottoms never lol.
And i still think they should find themselves some gay guys instead of bothering us girls with their malfunctional masculinuty lol


Speaking truth to powerbottoms.

[LittleGuy]

I've tried soooo hard not to engage your 'hotter-than-thou' TV shenanigans, but:

http://www.shemalecherry.com/content/imgs/39/thumb.jpg

http://www.hungdevils.com/uploads/monthly_02_2009/post-18747-1234985948.jpg

http://www.hungdevils.com/uploads/monthly_09_2008/post-8441-1221025894.jpg

Men, right? And then there's you. Seriously. Who do you think you are?

http://www.amyabrahams.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/banksy-elephant-in-room1.jpg

~BB~

Would you fuck Kim?

[BellaBellucci]

Would you fuck Kim?

Like I said, I only fuck man ass for money. :geek:

~BB~

[alyssaluxor]

the reason why theres porn TS girls topping guys because its the one that sells

99.9999999999999999999% of TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms lol :)

[phobun]

the reason why theres porn TS girls topping guys because its the one that sells

99.9999999999999999999% of TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms lol :)


Is there a racial difference... are some races or ethnicities more likely to be powerbottoms than others, and which ones?

What percent of the "99.9999999999999999999%" have their own gender issues and like to dress up when they bottom?

[SammiValentine]

the reason why theres porn TS girls topping guys because its the one that sells

99.9999999999999999999% of TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms lol :)

I think 99.99% is way way way way way off the mark !! lol ;;-)

I have escorted successfully for years as a bottom....:fuckin:

[Prospero]

The trouble with coming in near the tail end of a long, long thread without reading the earlier posts is that you post something relatively serious and then find that the whole bunch of preceding posts are jokes, wind-ups, rude remarks and sarcasm. Oh well.

[LittleGuy]

Like I said, I only fuck man ass for money. :geek:

~BB~

Wow....

[SirCumsAlot]

lol oh man I just read the post, Im not even going to go through all the pages and read the comments on this one!

[Birgitta]

[QUOTE=Prospero;924253]Birgitta - so because YOU have faced prejudice it's okay to be prejudiced. that's odd logic.[/B]

I am sorry if my post is a bit messy, writing this from my mobile phone.

Everytime a guy shows interest in me coz he wants to be fucked its prejudice. I seriously suggest you get over it, why cant i call these guys gay, after all they want me to be a male for them......

Again i agree. Nothing wrog with being gay. But you seem to think people are either gay or straight. I know its more complicated. What about those who are interested in biological women but also interested in transgendered woman - both in an active and passive sense? Do you despise them for THEIR difference/ It appears so.

No honey, if there were only 100% straight people in this world, i would be in trouble.
I despise some powerbttms only for expecting me to understand and support their so called straight fetish simply because i am a ts. That is prejudice for you. And not even just that, they dont understand it when i call them gay because of it. Ask any gay guy in the world what they think about guys like yourself and they would tell me you are a gay man in denial lol. Cmon even your taste in music is queer lol. Good taste though. I like and respect you prospero, but when it comes to ts woman, you better wise up if you want to support them.





I do not bother you with my so called fetishes. How harsh you are in condemning those who are different from you when we are on your side. Once you would have been burned or persecuted for your own identity. Thank god that attitude is considerable gone - though not wholly gone. Plenty of "straight" soiety despies the transgendered. They are wrong. But so are you to be harsh to those who are different from ou.

That is actually extremely tasteless and disrespectfull to bring up our history of persucution and condemnation because i call you a fairy lol.
Comming from me u should consider it to be a compliment because the fact
Gaylesbian and transgender rights excist in some parts of the world is only because the transgendered and GAY people were tired of being treated like second class citizens and had the guts to do something about it. We dont have straight closeted powerbttms to thank for that.

You are in no way supporting the transgender community with a fetish that will ultimately damage our reputation as girls more then it does any good!

Also, the ones that made my life misarable were most likely powerbttms, transvestites, pedophiles, you name it, deeeeep in the closet and tangled in self denial that simply could not stand the sight of an openly feminine gay boy that was not in the closet and did not hide.

You seem actually a good example of that because you bring up that i should be thankfull not to get stoned by those hypocrites for calling you gay and having an opinion. Actually that is pretty disgusting.

If you actually want to do something for us, support the gay community instead if trying to explain to me what being open minded is all about as if i did not know. You are soooo open minded that you wont even let me call you gay sister!!!!

Again... you seem to miss what this site is about. It' about - largely - men who admire the beauty and sexuality of transgendered women as THEY conceive them to be in their own minds. Not the reality of a woman like you, but the desire to enjoy the hermaphrodite who can be bnoth a girl and a guy at the same time. Finally perhaps it is you who should not be here. This is - at the end of the day - primarily a site about pornography. Not a nice forum for genuinely nice girls like you to exchange their views on life. Seriously - there are other forums which are free of the porn content which you clearly find so utterly repellent.

I have no problem with porn in general, and no problem with guys looking for the best of both worlds, what does bother me is that it has become a powerbttm industry that has nothing to do with us tgirls but everything with the way guys like and objectify us. And the hypocrisy bothers me too.

[Prospero]

Jeez.... I love real girls hugely Birgitta. I also love TS girls. I have tried sex with men. I did not like it. So if YOU want to call me a fairy and call me gay that's cool. I have no doubts about my rather pluralistic sexuality. Simple as that. I don't mind being called gay, since i love gay people and respect them. But it is reductionist to define all men who like cock and sex with girls as gay.
As to saying it is people like me who saved the transgendered from being persecuted and tortured etc - I did not claim that. i simply remarked that, thank GOD, that doesn't happen anymore - or at least not as much as it used to.

My musical taste is gay? good grief. Ella Fitzgerald, Bruce Springsteen, Mozart, Bach, Diamanda galas and a million more artistes... since when are these people's music the preserve of the supposedly gay or for that matter are their artistes who are only liked by 100 per cent straight people.. Again - I don't mind if you want to view me through that prism. It's your spectacles that need replacing, not mine.

I am actually very open minded - but I would object if you called me bald when i have a full head of hair, object if you called me Samoan or french or german when I'm british, object if you called me four foot three when i'm six foot etc... so I do object to be called a gay sister. Yes. Cos I am - at worst (or best) by conventional definitions - bisexual. It's simply a matter of truth. But whatever...

I am also not respnisible for - or representative of - those who have made your life miserable. I am not a paedophile, I am not a transvestite, I am by agreement of several of your sisters here a powerbottom (whatever that means) even though i actually enjoying fucking girls like you even more than i like getting fucked.
This is tiresome really.

We are complicated. Smple as that. I am against the simplistic reduction of any of us - you, me, Phobun and the thousands of others here - to anyone's simple definition. As a transgendered woman you demand and insist upon the right to be defined in YOUR terms. I demand the right to be defined in mine. Okay? pax vobiscum. xxx

[bigjim7]

Good replies prospero I agree whole heartedly with what you say. Brigitta be careful that you do not become what twisted you in the first place. The mindset you now have is of the ones that bullied you all those years ago which gives you a kind of affinity with them although ironically you may not be able to see this. We all enjoy what we like and power bottoms as you call them do you no harm so why do you attack them for being different to your sexual tastes.

[alyssaluxor]

Is there a racial difference... are some races or ethnicities more likely to be powerbottoms than others, and which ones?

What percent of the "99.9999999999999999999%" have their own gender issues and like to dress up when they bottom?

from my experience most powerbottoms are whites lol ;)

A big percentage of my British clientelle also some Germans, Americans, Aussie, Canadians, Chinese, Indians like to wear stockings and high heels whenever i fuck them lol


I think 99.99% is way way way way way off the mark !! lol ;;-)

I have escorted successfully for years as a bottom....:fuckin:

im exaggerating cherie ok a more reality facts from my experience i think 98%. I remember like in 1 month all my clientelle are powerbottoms they just want cock in their ass :wiggle:

[robertlouis]

Oh FFS.

Some people like to fuck.

Some people like to be fucked.

Some people like to fuck and to be fucked.

In all three situations both same sex and different sex relationships can be involved.

It's that simple.

To each his or her own. Why get uptight or angry about what other people do? As long as nobody gets seriously hurt and children aren't involved, why worry?

OK?

Jeez.

[GrimFusion]

grimfusion definitely takes it up the ass

battyboy

Actually, no... no I don't. I'm top only, but I don't understand all the hate on bottoms, power-bottoms, and cock-hounds that goes on around here because the escort scene is full of dudes like that. Strictly put, if not for those kind of dudes, half of these ladies wouldn't be nearly as far along in their transition as they are and you'd be jackin' it to depressed fem-boys right about now.

[Birgitta]

This is tiresome really.

Ooh dear....noooo tiresome is something else entirely.
Thats having to deal with that 98% of men that like TS dear Alyssa is talking about and I know from experience that her numbers are accurate. The other 2% actually being black guys that want a secret one night stand. You guys make me feel so much like a woman. You are soooo understanding and open minded lol!

Imagine how it makes me feel like a woman, everytime a guy shows interest I have to suspect them of beeing a bttm transvestite, since 98 % of them are like that. (except for most black guys lol that other 2%)


from my experience most powerbottoms are whites lol

A big percentage of my British clientelle also some Germans, Americans, Aussie, Canadians, Chinese, Indians like to wear stockings and high heels whenever i fuck them lol

im exaggerating cherie ok a more reality facts from my experience i think 98%. I remember like in 1 month all my clientelle are powerbottoms they just want cock in their ass




We are complicated. Smple as that. I am against the simplistic reduction of any of us - you, me, Phobun and the thousands of others here - to anyone's simple definition. As a transgendered woman you demand and insist upon the right to be defined in YOUR terms. I demand the right to be defined in mine. Okay? pax vobiscum. xxx

I am all for the simplistic reduction! I am just a straight girl, nothing more or less. baby you cant live the life of a TS if you cant stand the fact that a lot if not all of the truely straight men will NEVER EVER feel interested or see me as a real woman. No not even when i insist loooooool. You will just have to accept that some of us girls will suspect powerbttmguys like yourself to be gay.

You identify as bisexual you say... now thats OK! But I dont think you will do so openly, since you say you dont like men lol.

My definition of openminded is a straight guy that falls in love with me despite of the fact that I am a TS.
It is not paying money to make tgirls do stuff they would not normally do with a loving bf.

[robertlouis]

stop it!! Shut the fuck up!!! Enough!!!!

[Birgitta]

Actually, no... no I don't. I'm top only, but I don't understand all the hate on bottoms, power-bottoms, and cock-hounds that goes on around here because the escort scene is full of dudes like that. Strictly put, if not for those kind of dudes, half of these ladies wouldn't have money to fund transition and you'd be jackin' to pictures of depressed fem boys right about now.

I totally understand and support any ts that is in the business...
But do not confuse me with them coz I am not the type to be a prostitute...too sensitive for that, it will kill me lol.

[Birgitta]

stop it!! Shut the fuck up!!! Enough!!!!

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off... lol

[robertlouis]

Not directed at you personally Birgitta, just this thread in general. Surely the arguments are exhausted by now, if they were ever necessary in the first place.

Why people should feel it necessary to vehemently defend their own sexual preference while violently attacking that of others, and doing it again and again ad nauseam is entirely beyond me.

Live and let live, for heaven's sake. If it feels good, do it.

Is there any more that needs to be said?

[nonnonnon]

get that badboy inverted and your problems will disappear

[BigDF]

We are complicated. Smple as that. I am against the simplistic reduction of any of us - you, me, Phobun and the thousands of others here - to anyone's simple definition. As a transgendered woman you demand and insist upon the right to be defined in YOUR terms. I demand the right to be defined in mine. Okay? pax vobiscum. xxx:iagree::iagree::iagree:

[Birgitta]

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

We are defined not in or on our own terms but by the terms of the ones that objectify us lol

[robertlouis]

Something more important has come up - Real Madrid vs Barcelona live on telly.

Play nice while I'm away please children.

[BigDF]

We are defined not in or on our own terms but by the terms of the ones that objectify us lolIt is up to you to define yourself, Birgitta. Allowing someone else to define you on their terms is surrendering.

Some of what you've said on here has surprised me a little to tell the truth, but I suppose it's based on personal experience. But this argument that a male bottom for a pre-op TS woman is gay has been fought over and over on this board. Speaking only for myself, there are two reasons I would suck a TS pre-op woman's cock or allow her to top me. I would hope to please her in that way and because it involves submission to her wishes. I would not do that for a man, which in my mind defines me as not gay. :geek:

[BBaggins06]

LOL

I haven't seen a thread packed chock full o' fail in a long, long time. From Freddie's OP to Alyssa's delusions, the hits never stopped. I guarantee FG is laughing his ass off in some McDonald's breakroom.

Everyone getting so lathered up by a thread started by the Andy Rooney of HA. Why so serious?

[SisterDickRadio]

You have some of the most retarded ass threads on here! You never give up... why the fuck you into trannies??? Everything they got you dont like so be with a real woman!

I dont honestly want to be a woman, a lot of trannies do... but the ones that love to be who they are, and accept they are trannies love to use what they got! If a guy only wants to fuck me but not touch or suck me, then hes not fucking me! You cant have your cake and eat it too and not satisfy me. Fucking rarely ever satisfies me, I need someone sucking me off or what not!

[Birgitta]

Alyssa is not delusional
And i promise, it wont take long before
I leave this forum and everyone on it in peace
Its true this is no place for girls like me lol

[SisterDickRadio]

Alyssa is not delusional
And i promise, it wont take long before
I leave this forum and everyone on it in peace
Its true this is no place for girls like me lol

Yea why a lot of girls leave. I left for a while, its all a hate fest here!

[Birgitta]

[QUOTE=BigDF;924439]It is up to you to define yourself, Birgitta. Allowing someone else to define you on their terms is surrendering.



U cant change the world sweetie, only yourself, up to a point, you cant beat nature or sociaty, lol

[FreddieGomez]

You have some of the most retarded ass threads on here! You never give up... why the fuck you into trannies??? Everything they got you dont like so be with a real woman!

I dont honestly want to be a woman, a lot of trannies do... but the ones that love to be who they are, and accept they are trannies love to use what they got! If a guy only wants to fuck me but not touch or suck me, then hes not fucking me! You cant have your cake and eat it too and not satisfy me. Fucking rarely ever satisfies me, I need someone sucking me off or what not!

i can't like trannies without having the desire for their dicks?

[SammiValentine]

from my experience most powerbottoms are whites lol ;)

A big percentage of my British clientelle also some Germans, Americans, Aussie, Canadians, Chinese, Indians like to wear stockings and high heels whenever i fuck them lol



im exaggerating cherie ok a more reality facts from my experience i think 98%. I remember like in 1 month all my clientelle are powerbottoms they just want cock in their ass :wiggle:
hehe sorry sexy girl ! ;-)) didnt realise you was joking, exaggerating xx ahahah damn 98% omg.. i would be out work where you are :D :D xx

you look fab btw - I dont think ive ever said..;)x

[BellaBellucci]

It is up to you to define yourself, Birgitta. Allowing someone else to define you on their terms is surrendering.



U cant change the world sweetie, only yourself, up to a point, you cant beat nature or sociaty, lol

Says who? Maybe you're changing the world just by being yourself, huh? :geek: :)

~BB~

[LittleGuy]

Haha I just love when a chick on here says "they're going to leave this site". Like they really leave. Stop complaining and woman up

[FreddieGomez]

Haha I just love when a chick on here says "they're going to leave this site". Like they really leave. Stop complaining and woman up

Even Paris lurks and posts under an alias.

[Birgitta]

i can't like trannies without having the desire for their dicks?

of course you can, i dont care if a guy has no interest in doing anything with my genitals...my bf has never even touched em... lol
Its the way I like it...

[natina]

I AM GONNA FUCK YOU UP WITH THIS ONE

when vagina fluid dries or flakes it makes these tasty treats I call frosted flakes.

I wonder if you can get frosted flakes from a girl on testosterone?

some times fucking a true lesbian is like fuck a virgin,pussy is gonna be tight and dry.


http://mediap.bigmovies.com/images/dvd/1928/lick-my-pussy-juice_big.jpg

[Birgitta]

Says who? Maybe you're changing the world just by being yourself, huh? :geek: :)

~BB~

I mean I cant make the straight population wanting to marry and worship me LOL
I could be worshipped though...if I took viagra, put on my lingerie and presented myself as a domina...
I would have toooons of slaves lol

[Birgitta]

Haha I just love when a chick on here says "they're going to leave this site". Like they really leave. Stop complaining and woman up

Not yet, but I will... never meant to stay long....lol

And I am too much of a party pooper for powerbttms lol

[BellaBellucci]

i can't like trannies without having the desire for their dicks?

You can. But why do you? I mean I'm not complaining; I'm not crazy about not having a vagina either, but I'm just wondering why you would go out of your way to find a girl with a penis if you didn't like penis. It's one thing to meet a girl on the street, find out she's trans, and have it not bother you; it's quite another to spend so much time stirring the pot on a transsexual message forum by reminding everyone how not into penis you are.. :geek:

~BB~

[FreddieGomez]

You can. But why do you? I mean I'm not complaining, I'm just wondering why you would go out of your way to find a girl with a penis if you didn't like penis. It's one thing to meet a girl on the street, find out she's trans, and have it not bother you; it's quite another to spend so much time stirring the pot on a transsexual message forum by reminding everyone how not into penis you are.. :geek:

~BB~

idk. i remember the first time i saw a trannie. i didn't know she was a trannie, and all i noticed was her ass. then i was confused but still interested afterwards. i've always seemed to like trannies for the ass and feminine body and face. it was never about the dick with me. label as u want, but that's what i like.

[Birgitta]

You can. But why do you? I mean I'm not complaining, I'm not crazy about not having a vagina either, but I'm just wondering why you would go out of your way to find a girl with a penis if you didn't like penis. It's one thing to meet a girl on the street, find out she's trans, and have it not bother you; it's quite another to spend so much time stirring the pot on a transsexual message forum by reminding everyone how not into penis you are.. :geek:

~BB~

Maybe the sight of it turns him on, the erection of a girl that tells him she is having fun, perhaps its a mental thing... thank god there are guys like him who like us without their arse getting on fire instantly loool

And freddie has good taste in tgirls... you see Freddy, I am able to give compliments...lol

Too bad you are so secretive....about dating tgirls

[FreddieGomez]

NO BUENO. it doesn't bother me that it's there, i just have no use for it on a personal level. i hate how every dude into trannies has to label me as they label themselves only because they're into trannie dick when i'm not. NOT EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES WANTS DICK. Does every trannie like to top? NO. SO DOES EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES LIKE TO BOTTOM? NO. LEAVE ME TO THE CHICKS WHO ARE STRICTLY BOTTOMS. I DONT NEED TO JUSTIFY MY PREFERENCE TO DUDES WHO ARE BOTTOMS AND THE TRANNIES WHO LOVE THEM.

[BellaBellucci]

Maybe the sight of it turns him on, the erection of a girl that tells him she is having fun, perhaps its a mental thing... thank god there are guys like him who like us without their arse getting on fire instantly loool

And freddie has good taste in tgirls... you see Freddy, I am able to give compliments...lol

Too bad you are so secretive....about dating tgirls

I'm sorry hon. You can defend him all you like, but he's secretive for a reason. I'd like to hear his answer on this.

Otherwise, I agree with you. I also prefer a 100% top man, but like Amber, I do require oral stimulation. I'm not letting a guy get off THAT easy. He needs to lick it before he sticks it.

YouTube - Denise Lasalle - Lick It Before You Stick It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLWVqUZvT0)

YouTube - *20 Fingers*feat * Roula * "You Gotta Lick It " =P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgU_j9eO0K4&feature=related)


~BB~

[FreddieGomez]

I'm sorry hon. You can defend him all you like, but he's secretive for a reason. I'd like to hear his answer on this.

Otherwise, I agree with you. I also prefer a 100% top man, but like Amber, I do require oral stimulation. I'm not letting a guy get off THAT easy. He needs to lick it before he sticks it.

YouTube - Denise Lasalle - Lick It Before You Stick It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLWVqUZvT0)

YouTube - *20 Fingers*feat * Roula * "You Gotta Lick It " =P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgU_j9eO0K4&feature=related)


~BB~

amber says she likes to get head. that's the only thing that pushes me away. on the other hand there are trannies like paris angelline who is 100% bottom and doesn't want her dick sucked. that is my type of trannie. they're very rare but they're out there. and i would date a trannie provided nobody would question her gender when we were out in public. i aint the only dude who wont be seen with a trannie especially a clocky one in public. especially where i live, fuck outta here.

[Birgitta]

NO BUENO. it doesn't bother me that it's there, i just have no use for it on a personal level. i hate how every dude into trannies has to label me as they label themselves only because they're into trannie dick when i'm not. NOT EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES WANTS DICK. Does every trannie like to top? NO. SO DOES EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES LIKE TO BOTTOM? NO. LEAVE ME TO THE CHICKS WHO ARE STRICTLY BOTTOMS. I DONT NEED TO JUSTIFY MY PREFERENCE TO DUDES WHO ARE BOTTOMS AND THE TRANNIES WHO LOVE THEM.

You forgot to add "for their money" at the end of your sentence lol

[FreddieGomez]

You forgot to add "for their money" at the end of your sentence lol

yeah because that's the only type of dude who would pay for sex.

[Birgitta]

amber says she likes to get head. that's the only thing that pushes me away. on the other hand there are trannies like paris angelline who is 100% bottom and doesn't want her dick sucked. that is my type of trannie. they're very rare but they're out there. and i would date a trannie provided nobody would question her gender when we were out in public. i aint the only dude who wont be seen with a trannie especially a clocky one in public. especially where i live, fuck outta here.

I dont think they are that rare, you perhaps are looking in the wrong places. I am glad I dont live where you live lol. To find a stealth TS woman wont be easy. Most of us, even the very feminine ones are recognised as trannies...I have known one very pretty and passable TS, a guy followed her and said: You look really good, but I know what you are lol.
It is actually a fantasy for most of us to be totally unclockable... so maybe you should just move out of your neighbourhood!!!

[Birgitta]

a 100% top man, but like Amber, I do require oral stimulation. I'm not letting a guy get off THAT easy. He needs to lick it before he sticks it.

~BB~

A guy has to be like near perfect for me to enjoy him sucking me off... lol
I have had no desire for it... also had none when I still lived as a boy... I used to hide my genitals from partners.... often they would get suspicious as to why I did so lol

I like guys playing with my breasts and guys that finger and are into rimming ... a good kisser is even more important for me then anything lol

[BellaBellucci]

NO BUENO. it doesn't bother me that it's there, i just have no use for it on a personal level. i hate how every dude into trannies has to label me as they label themselves only because they're into trannie dick when i'm not. NOT EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES WANTS DICK. Does every trannie like to top? NO. SO DOES EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES LIKE TO BOTTOM? NO. LEAVE ME TO THE CHICKS WHO ARE STRICTLY BOTTOMS. I DONT NEED TO JUSTIFY MY PREFERENCE TO DUDES WHO ARE BOTTOMS AND THE TRANNIES WHO LOVE THEM.

OMG! Again, I love the love for transwomen, but if you have no personal use for a penis, and you can't even get yourself to go anywhere near it, then why are you here?! :lol:

You strike me as someone who just likes to fuck ass and realized it's easier to find a transsexual than a GG who's into it. That's fine, but be honest. You really just want to be a stunt dick around here. You should just get into porn and get it over with. :lol:

I'm sorry but I think your attitude towards transsexuals is just too friggin' weird.

~BB~

[natina]

YouTube - Clarence Carter- Strokin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gMkiOPSeA)



I AM GONNA FUCK YOU UP WITH THIS ONE



when vagina fluid dries or flakes it makes these tasty treats I call frosted flakes.


I wonder if you can get frosted flakes from a girl on testosterone?


some times fucking a true lesbian is like fuck a virgin,pussy is gonna be tight and dry.




http://mediap.bigmovies.com/images/dvd/1928/lick-my-pussy-juice_big.jpg

[BellaBellucci]

I AM GONNA FUCK YOU UP WITH THIS ONE

when vagina fluid dries or flakes it makes these tasty treats I call frosted flakes.

I wonder if you can get frosted flakes from a girl on testosterone?

some times fucking a true lesbian is like fuck a virgin,pussy is gonna be tight and dry.


http://mediap.bigmovies.com/images/dvd/1928/lick-my-pussy-juice_big.jpg



Speaking of 'friggin' weird.' :rolleyes: :lol:

~BB~

[Birgitta]

@ Freddy, all the true Tgirls I have known did not like getting sucked...or fuck their partners...
You are probably looking in the wrong places... stay out of the escort business and try to hook up with a regular T girl that just wants to be a woman... it would not even cost you money... lol

[BellaBellucci]

@ Freddy, all the true Tgirls I have known did not like getting sucked...or fuck their partners...
You are probably looking in the wrong places... stay out of the escort business and try to hook up with a regular T girl that just wants to be a woman... it would not even cost you money... lol

'True tgirls?' Are you serious lady? So now Amber and I aren't 'true tgirls?' And only you and a few rare others are? Why? Because we don't outright hate our bodies like you do? We experience less discomfort so we're less transsexual? Do you even realize what you've said?

Maybe you should take that HA vacation sooner rather than later. That statement was just so judgmental, self-serving, rude, arrogant, insulting... to the majority of transwomen. I thought I was going to like you, but that's the kind of statement that can and should start a flame war. GTFOH!

~BB~

[theone1982]

[QUOTE=natina;924517]
I AM GONNA FUCK YOU UP WITH THIS ONE

when vagina fluid dries or flakes it makes these tasty treats I call frosted flakes.

I wonder if you can get frosted flakes from a girl on testosterone?

some times fucking a true lesbian is like fuck a virgin,pussy is gonna be tight and dry.


http://mediap.bigmovies.com/images/dvd/1928/lick-my-pussy-juice_big.jpg
?????:what WTF?

[Birgitta]

I'm sorry but I think your attitude towards transsexuals is just too friggin' weird.
~BB~

his attitude is just right!!!!
Twoman are WOMAN that happened to be born in male bodies... but they are not males lol.
Freddy is actually one of the few guys on here with the right attitude... if you ask me lol

[BellaBellucci]

his attitude is just right!!!!
Twoman are WOMAN that happened to be born in male bodies... but they are not males lol.
Freddy is actually one of the few guys on here with the right attitude... if you ask me lol

'They?' So you've taken it upon yourself to not only attempt to define what a transsexual is to a transsexual, but you again do so in a way that implies that I'm not one too. Seriously. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. :fu:

~BB~

[Birgitta]

'They?' So you've taken it upon yourself to not only attempt to define what a transsexual is to a transsexual, but you again do so in a way that implies that I'm not one too. Seriously. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. :fu:

~BB~

Hey a lot of gay guys are TS coz they want to make a buck or want many men in bed... I was referring to them, not to you.

You will not catch me telling you that you are not a TS for liking to get sucked... easy babe!

[onmyknees]

OMG! Again, I love the love for transwomen, but if you have no personal use for a penis, and you can't even get yourself to go anywhere near it, then why are you here?! :lol:

You strike me as someone who just likes to fuck ass and realized it's easier to find a transsexual than a GG who's into it. That's fine, but be honest. You really just want to be a stunt dick around here. You should just get into porn and get it over with. :lol:

I'm sorry but I think your attitude towards transsexuals is just too friggin' weird.

~BB~


Finally.....I've been asking Freddie who has an aversion to lady cock why he's here for 6 months. Welcome aboard Bella! Here's what I think...for what it's worth and for no charge. I do this shit for free....

I have nothing against Freddie, but He protests too loudly about that part of a Trans woman's anatomy .......which makes me suspicious. I have no doubt he's not a bottom...I take him at his word on that, but there's some false sense of machismo , or perhaps pier pressure that preventing him from being honest with himself and about his attraction to T ladies. Why else would he lament about it with such regularity ? I think he's trying to provide himself cover in case one of his friends finds out he's on HA. Plausible deniability. I've seen it before. He can prove to them he's only interested in T women from the waist up !! Doesn't make him a bad guy, just fooling himself...and no one else!

[BellaBellucci]

Hey a lot of gay guys are TS coz they want to make a buck or want many men in bed... I was referring to them, not to you.

You will not catch me telling you or anyone not a TS for liking to get sucked... easy babe!

I hope there's an apology coming then, because you very clearly implied that a transsexual who wants her man to stimulate all of her erogenous zones is no transsexual at all. If you phrased it incorrectly I apologize for jumping the gun, but you did it in two separate posts so I do find it difficult to believe.

~BB~

[Helvis2012]

Too long, didn't read tbh.

The men who bottom are worse than the women who top tho imo..



Really? Six sentences is too long for you? But still, that little tidbit explains a lot.
Why do you care about what someone else does in the bedroom? You might want to explore a little to find the answer to that one but then again, the answer might not please you. :jerkoff

[Mayrah]

I hope there's an apology coming then, because you very clearly implied that a transsexual who wants her man to stimulate all of her erogenous zones is no transsexual at all. If you phrased it incorrectly I apologize for jumping the gun, but you did it in two separate posts so I do find it difficult to believe.

~BB~

Your 100% right. In their eyes a man is apparently a lousy lover who only thinks about his own needs.. "Ass or nothing" mentality. :whistle:

I dont get why someone comes to this website with so much negativity against a penis, arent we all supposed to be concenting adults and what happens in the bedroom is supposed to be a private situation?

[theone1982]

Your 100% right. In their eyes a man is apparently a lousy lover who only thinks about his own needs.. "Ass or nothing" mentality. :whistle:

I dont get why someone comes to this website with so much negativity against a penis, arent we all supposed to be concenting adults and what happens in the bedroom is supposed to be a private situation?

:iagree::iagree:

[BellaBellucci]

Your 100% right. In their eyes a man is apparently a lousy lover who only thinks about his own needs.. "Ass or nothing" mentality. :whistle:

I dont get why someone comes to this website with so much negativity against a penis, arent we all supposed to be concenting adults and what happens in the bedroom is supposed to be a private situation?

Open-mindedness on a transsexual forum would be the reasonable expectation, yes. Sadly, it's not the reality. :geek:

~BB~

[Helvis2012]

I dont get why someone comes to this website with so much negativity against a penis, arent we all supposed to be concenting adults and what happens in the bedroom is supposed to be a private situation?


The answer is as simple as it is obvious. It's sad though. Can you imagine what it is like living a lie? Must suck.

[robertlouis]

Your 100% right. In their eyes a man is apparently a lousy lover who only thinks about his own needs.. "Ass or nothing" mentality.

I dont get why someone comes to this website with so much negativity against a penis, arent we all supposed to be concenting adults and what happens in the bedroom is supposed to be a private situation?


Open-mindedness on a transsexual forum would be the reasonable expectation, yes. Sadly, it's not the reality. :geek:

~BB~

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

Amen to all that. I really can't understand why this is still going on. How many times do people like Bella have to repeat what should be obvious to anyone not obsessed with their own interpretation of what's to like and not like about the transsexual world and intent on shouting it out and arguing till we're all dead? Grow up people, for god's sake.

Oh, and the Real vs Barcelona game was turgid and disappointing in the end, punctuated by two moments of sheer brilliance by Lionel Messi - a very apt metaphor for this increasingly crap and pointless thread.

Bella - "stunt dick" ROFLMAO. :Bowdown:

[theone1982]

[QUOTE=robertlouis;924615

Oh, and the Real vs Barcelona game was turgid and disappointing in the end, punctuated by two moments of sheer brilliance by Lionel Messi - a very apt metaphor for this increasingly crap and pointless thread. [/QUOTE]

Not to derail this heartwarming thread:), but aren't all soccer games turgid and disappointing?:):dancing:

[Birgitta]

I have nothing against male genitals not on males and not on females,
I wont apilogise for what i said, if you dont understand where i am coming from its useless to do so...
I am a pre op non op myself at the moment lol
Surgery is still too risky for me...
But be sure those guys that love you for your male parts will not apologize for leaving u after you have surgery because they love you for the woman that you are, sorry i am apparently too rational to be a ts.

I dont live in a fantasy world do not have the luxery to do so, so im leaving...
Goodbye

[robertlouis]

Not to derail this heartwarming thread:), but aren't all soccer games turgid and disappointing?:):dancing:

Of course, not nearly as exciting as gridiron....

I hope you can smell sarcasm from this side of the ocean. :dancing::wiggle:

[theone1982]

Of course, not nearly as exciting as gridiron....

I hope you can smell sarcasm from this side of the ocean. :dancing::wiggle:

I was hoping you could smell the same thing!:) I actually think soccer is starting to get big in the U.S. I've saw a lot more focus on it over the last few years

[BellaBellucci]

sorry i am apparently too rational to be a ts.

Yeah. That must be it. :whistle:

~BB~

[robertlouis]

I was hoping you could smell the same thing!:) I actually think soccer is starting to get big in the U.S. I've saw a lot more focus on it over the last few years

When it's played well, there's no more beautiful sport. There was probably too much at stake tonight - the winner over the home and away legs will compete in the final of the European Champions League trophy next month at Wembley, almost certainly against Manchester United. Even Sammi will have to admit that!

And the rivalry between Real and Barca is political as well as emotional. During the Franco era, Real were the fascist party's standardbearers internationally, whereas Barca carried all the hopes of the repressed people of Catalunya. But both teams at their best are capable of sublime football, and that was what made tonight's game such a disappointment.

But if Messi's second goal for Barca is up on youtube yet, watch it. One of the best individual goals ever, and his 51st of the season (20-25 is a pretty respectable season's total for a good striker).

[amberskyi]

amber says she likes to get head. that's the only thing that pushes me away. on the other hand there are trannies like paris angelline who is 100% bottom and doesn't want her dick sucked. that is my type of trannie. they're very rare but they're out there. and i would date a trannie provided nobody would question her gender when we were out in public. i aint the only dude who wont be seen with a trannie especially a clocky one in public. especially where i live, fuck outta here.

riiiiggghttttt cause thats the only thing thats keeping you away.its not your horrible attitude and stereotyping of ts women,your unwillingness to date a ts,or your obnoxious obsessive use of the word trannie (wtf is a trannie any way!?!).
also dude get the fuck out of here with that in my hood shit.ive lived in every hood in newyork and dc and tons of dudes be up my ass and **gasp** in public too.ive been in your hood nigga and never had a problem.ive had "hooder" niggas than you date me openly.

[BellaBellucci]

also dude get the fuck out of here with that in my hood shit.ive lived in every hood in newyork and dc and tons of dudes be up my ass and **gasp** in public too.ive been in your hood nigga and never had a problem.ive had "hooder" niggas than you date me openly.

Ditto. I'm like the pied-piper of hoodrats. Fuck that shit. :geek:

~BB~

[robertlouis]

This is for Freddie.

It's In The Hall of the Mountain King, by Grieg, from the Peer Gynt Suite.

The Mountain King is also King of the Trolls.....:wiggle::party::whistle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpzxKsSEZg

[onmyknees]

riiiiggghttttt cause thats the only thing thats keeping you away.its not your horrible attitude and stereotyping of ts women,your unwillingness to date a ts,or your obnoxious obsessive use of the word trannie (wtf is a trannie any way!?!).
also dude get the fuck out of here with that in my hood shit.ive lived in every hood in newyork and dc and tons of dudes be up my ass and **gasp** in public too.ive been in your hood nigga and never had a problem.ive had "hooder" niggas than you date me openly.

I guess this means Freddie won't be meeting you in the club....and he came so close !! LOL

[robertlouis]

I guess this means Freddie won't be meeting you in the club....and he came so close !! LOL

I THINK so - doncha just hate it when people sit on the fence lol?

[EyeCumInPiece]

Stupid post. Shame on everyone for making it 18 pages long & relevant.

[amberskyi]

I guess this means Freddie won't be meeting you in the club....and he came so close !! LOL

he might see me there but i hope he doesnt so much as even expect conversation from me.
the girls there be on their shit $$$ so i dont see why he would go.

[robertlouis]

Stupid post. Shame on everyone for making it 18 pages long & relevant.


Yes, congrats FG

[fred41]

Yeah. That must be it. :whistle:

~BB~

Ever notice how selective parts of some of the questions you asked on this thread never really got an answer ?

Yet the silence often speaks volumes.

excellent.

[BellaBellucci]

Ever notice how selective parts of some of the questions you asked on this thread never really got an answer ?

Yet the silence often speaks volumes.

excellent.

I hope the rest of the class is also paying close attention. School's in, suckas! :geek:

~BB~

[Bobzz]

Am I the only one who 1) forgets what the original post was all about 19 pages ago; or 2) gives a shit about what people who disagree with me think?

[robertlouis]

Am I the only one who 1) forgets what the original post was all about 19 pages ago; or 2) gives a shit about what people who disagree with me think?

Did you really mean to say that you DO actually care about what people who disagree with you think?

If so, FFS don't let's start this shit all over again. :praying::praying::praying::praying::praying::pray ing::praying::praying::praying:

[Bobzz]

Did you really mean to say that you DO actually care about what people who disagree with you think?

If so, FFS don't let's start this shit all over again. :praying::praying::praying::praying::praying::pray ing::praying::praying::praying:

Hardly, the comments here have been as varied and offensive as I've read in a while. For the record, I don't give a fuck about what people who disagree with me think

[robertlouis]

Hardly, the comments here have been as varied and offensive as I've read in a while. For the record, I don't give a fuck about what people who disagree with me think

Just checking. Good, we agree.

[onmyknees]

he might see me there but i hope he doesnt so much as even expect conversation from me.
the girls there be on their shit $$$ so i dont see why he would go.

i'm guessing you'll be well tended to by dudes who have no anatomy issues..

[phobun]

'True tgirls?' Are you serious lady? So now Amber and I aren't 'true tgirls?' And only you and a few rare others are? Why? Because we don't outright hate our bodies like you do? We experience less discomfort so we're less transsexual? Do you even realize what you've said?

Maybe you should take that HA vacation sooner rather than later. That statement was just so judgmental, self-serving, rude, arrogant, insulting... to the majority of transwomen. I thought I was going to like you, but that's the kind of statement that can and should start a flame war. GTFOH!

~BB~


I don't think Birgitta meant any offense. Certainly nowadays not everyone accepts the Harry Benjamin Scale, but she probably puts some credence to it, and I think she must have been referring to Type 6, "True Transsexuals", who intensely hate their male genitalia. That would explain her use of the "true" adjective and her aversion to using her male genitalia... pretty mundane really and I don't think it requires a flame war. I used to buy into the Benjamin scale until I read how unsure of it Benjamin himself was.

[phobun]

I dont live in a fantasy world do not have the luxery to do so, so im leaving...
Goodbye


I don't think you should go. Your thoughts are often very kind and insightful.

[BellaBellucci]

I don't think Birgitta meant any offense.


I don't think you should go. Your thoughts are often very kind and insightful.


I dont live in a fantasy world do not have the luxery to do so, so im leaving...
Goodbye

... she doesn't 'live in a fantasy world.' I guess the rest of us do. Yeah. Insightful. A class act to the end. Just because someone's words are subliminal, that doesn't mean that they aren't intentional. :rolleyes:

~BB~

[GrimFusion]

I totally understand and support any ts that is in the business...
But do not confuse me with them coz I am not the type to be a prostitute...too sensitive for that, it will kill me lol.

Do your thang, girl. I'm not trying to say all the chicks 'round here are escorts.


riiiiggghttttt cause thats the only thing thats keeping you away.its not your horrible attitude and stereotyping of ts women,your unwillingness to date a ts,or your obnoxious obsessive use of the word trannie (wtf is a trannie any way!?!).
also dude get the fuck out of here with that in my hood shit.ive lived in every hood in newyork and dc and tons of dudes be up my ass and **gasp** in public too.ive been in your hood nigga and never had a problem.ive had "hooder" niggas than you date me openly.
-Co-Sign-; though admittedly; I don't know what the hood's like at all.

@FreddieGomez: If you take a minute and think about your posts, you'd have to admit you've been saying some pretty dumb stuff lately. I'm not trying to play save-a-hoe here. I don't know Amber, but I can trust she has the ability to defend herself. I just think some of your comments have been real narrow-minded; like you haven't been thinking shit through before you start typing. I'm starting to think you're doing it on purpose just for the attention.

[Prospero]

Freddie started this thread - and has finally said something I can agree with 100 per cent. He doesn't want to be labelled and he shouldn't be. He has his tastes.

And the same is true of everyone else here.
My final comment. Live and let live and stop insulting other people for not having the same outlook as yourself.

In the big grown-up world that is how wars start.


NO BUENO. it doesn't bother me that it's there, i just have no use for it on a personal level. i hate how every dude into trannies has to label me as they label themselves only because they're into trannie dick when i'm not. NOT EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES WANTS DICK. Does every trannie like to top? NO. SO DOES EVERY DUDE INTO TRANNIES LIKE TO BOTTOM? NO. LEAVE ME TO THE CHICKS WHO ARE STRICTLY BOTTOMS. I DONT NEED TO JUSTIFY MY PREFERENCE TO DUDES WHO ARE BOTTOMS AND THE TRANNIES WHO LOVE THEM.

[robertlouis]

Freddie started this thread - and has finally said something I can agree with 100 per cent. He doesn't want to be labelled and he shouldn't be. He has his tastes.

And the same is true of everyone else here.
My final comment. Live and let live and stop insulting other people for not having the same outlook as yourself.

In the big grown-up world that is how wars start.


Thank you Prospero for that judicious application of open-minded objectivity.

Now, can we all please move on to something a little less fraught?

Kittens would be nice.

[nonnonnon]

Rargh im a dog person

[robertlouis]

Rargh im a dog person

Yes, but you wouldn't turn down an offer of free pussy like these three now, would you?

[theone1982]

I think this is the most appropriate musical cue for this thread.:)
YouTube - The Price is Right losing horn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A)

[Prospero]

I like dogs but prefer cats. I have three. You don't have to scoop their poop like you do with puppies.

[TsVanessa69]

who thinks trannies should be bottoms? ....i dont understand...if a trannie wants to be a top so bad why don't she just remain a man and live as a gay dude? when i learn a trannie is a top or likes to top it turns me off, and i'm not interested in trannie topping porn. to me it defeats the purpose of them being trannies. But this is only my opinion. anybody else agree?
A transexual is the best of both worlds
we have dicks
and some men prefer that
there is no pourpose defeated when a transexual enjoys what she has.
Ignorance is funny, especially from somebody not even secure in his manhood

[dderek123]

I hope there's an apology coming then, because you very clearly implied that a transsexual who wants her man to stimulate all of her erogenous zones is no transsexual at all. If you phrased it incorrectly I apologize for jumping the gun, but you did it in two separate posts so I do find it difficult to believe.

~BB~
Loads of TS posters on here have expressed exactly the same idea as you mentioned above.

[califorlife]

im not a fan of sucking dick, but if i had the pleasure to be with a girl as great as amber, id gladly go down on her if it pleased her.

[BellaBellucci]

Loads of TS posters on here have expressed exactly the same idea as you mentioned above.

OK, cool. Point them out so I can run their closed-minded asses out of here too. This board won't reach its full potential until every single one is gone.

I warn said people: coexist or else deal with the consequences. I didn't fight with every major player in the TS porn game and on this board to have n00bs come through here and poison our well.


im not a fan of sucking dick, but if i had the pleasure to be with a girl as great as amber, id gladly go down on her if it pleased her.

Now that's a perfect statement.

~BB~

[amberskyi]

im not a fan of sucking dick, but if i had the pleasure to be with a girl as great as amber, id gladly go down on her if it pleased her.

you could get it lol

[dderek123]

OK, cool. Point them out so I can run their closed-minded asses out of here too. This board won't reach its full potential until every single one is gone.

I warn said people: coexist or else deal with the consequences. I didn't fight with every major player in the TS porn game and on this board to have n00bs come through here and poison our well.

~BB~
Sure! I'll set them up and you knock them down.

From what I have noticed since I've been here the TS that project that opinion on to others don't usually end up staying for long. They are the types that end up getting into huge flamewars and then make a butthurt goodbye thread.

[BellaBellucci]

Sure! I'll set them up and you knock them down.

From what I have noticed since I've been here the TS that project that opinion on to others don't usually end up staying for long. They are the types that end up getting into huge flamewars and then make a butthurt goodbye thread.

Good riddance.

YouTube - Queen - 'Another One Bites the Dust' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE)

~BB~

[alyssaluxor]

LOL

I haven't seen a thread packed chock full o' fail in a long, long time. From Freddie's OP to Alyssa's delusions, the hits never stopped. I guarantee FG is laughing his ass off in some McDonald's breakroom.

Everyone getting so lathered up by a thread started by the Andy Rooney of HA. Why so serious?

Weehhh! Really? Maybe youre the one whos delusional, i live in the real world sister and just stating reality. You live in the closet and in the illusion lol


Alyssa is not delusional
And i promise, it wont take long before
I leave this forum and everyone on it in peace
Its true this is no place for girls like me lol

:iagree::iagree::iagree:


hehe sorry sexy girl ! ;-)) didnt realise you was joking, exaggerating xx ahahah damn 98% omg.. i would be out work where you are :D :D xx

you look fab btw - I dont think ive ever said..;)x

Yes my advertisement said im Top,Bottom and Versatile but im getting all powerbottom clientelle, well of my TS girls in my area said also the same almost all are powerbottoms lol

thanks i love so much your sexy slender body thats the kind of body i want ;)


idk. i remember the first time i saw a trannie. i didn't know she was a trannie, and all i noticed was her ass. then i was confused but still interested afterwards. i've always seemed to like trannies for the ass and feminine body and face. it was never about the dick with me. label as u want, but that's what i like.

Ohh my! Marry me please *wink*

[Birgitta]

Okay then,

Its not because of the Harry benjamin standards of care. I think they are nonsense too... but my view on transgendered woman differs from most.

I have met a lot of Tgirls/woman, and many of them were not very feminine. Mind you, I am not talking about their looks, anyone can get FFS and fool the world into believing they are woman. I am talking about the inside.

Try any transgenderfora and you will usually not find girls talking about girl stuff. Transgendered woman rarely talk about what it is like for them to be a woman.

In the west almost 80% were straight guys with a wife, jobs, children, etc so they become lesbians... those usually insist upon having a vagina and the one;s that do not go for surgery they view as males.

I was actually kicked from several websites run by these kind of TSwoman, because I expressed my doubt about having surgery.

So Bella should know, I actually know what it is like, still I think the way she responds to me is a little over reacting.

I seem to be the only girl here that is bothered by the way transgendered woman are portreyed in porn and in general.

Bottoming for Tgirls and sucking dick seems to be the norm. However almost all T girls with a normal female hormone belance (without excessive T) will not be able to perform in the bedroom without viagra.

Besides it is just TOTALLY past my understanding that a TS would actually WANT stuff like that, without making money from it. If you feel like a girl, why would you want to be a man in bed? Why would you be even able to be a man in bed? Especially for Tgirls because USUALLY they will want to do ANYTHING that makes them feel like a woman and NOTHING that will make them feel like a man. If you see my point.

I will never understand it.
I do not understand the 80% of TSwoman that were straight and always masculine that one day decide to be a lesbian woman.
And I dont understand Tgirls that behave like gaytops in bed. A lot of them are lesbians as well.

I dont feel at home in both words not do I feel at home in any transgender community. I would never have transitioned if not absolutely necessary, an my only wish is just to be normal girl.

But the circus around transgended woman in general is damaging.
I think it is a really bad stigma that due to TS porn Tgirls are portreyed as men serving passive men. Just because it sells.

Also it is damaging that those straight heterosexual lesbian T woman find their way to the media each time and make a fool out of the T community.
Cause nobody believes them!!!!

The amount of prejudice a T girl has to deal with due to her supposed sisters is a lot to swallow.

If Bella does not understand that, fuck her! lol

[dderek123]

Good riddance.


~BB~
I just had to ...
http://i.imgur.com/gkdt7.jpg

PS I love reddit

[BellaBellucci]

Dear Birgitta,

Damage control. It is a bitch. And yes, fuck me. Fuck me indeed. I didn't realize that being mistreated by those you consider men in dresses gave you carte blanche to come in here and make rude statements towards other real, full time, transsexual women simply because they have different preferences than you do. I apologize for not seeing your victimization complex sooner and not changing the laws of basic logic and universal understanding to accommodate your prejudiced, exclusive, self-serving, and closed-minded views. :geek:

You have no excuse for the things you said.

Sincerely,

~BB~

PS: I thought you were leaving. The logout link is located at the top, right-hand corner of every page.

[Birgitta]

Damage control. It is a bitch. And yes, fuck me. Fuck me indeed. I didn't realize that being mistreated by men in dresses gave you carte blanche to come in here and make rude statements towards other real, full time, transsexual women simply because they have different preferences than you do. I apologize for not seeing for victimization complex sooner. :geek:

~BB~

Honestly it is not a victimization complex... I am a Tgirl myself and HONESTLY...I believe many of my supposed sisters simply aren't woman. AT LEAST they are NOT behaving like woman. Thats my opinion. Do with it as you please lol.

[BellaBellucci]

Honestly it is not a victimization complex... I am a Tgirl myself and HONESTLY...I believe many of my sopposed sisters simply aren't woman. AT LEAST they are NOT behaving like woman. Thats my opinion. Do with it as you please lol.

OK, so you're not talking about me anymore. Well, that's a start. And I agree that a lot of transwomen are decidedly not women. I'd be a fool to argue the point. However, a person's womanhood isn't defined by their preferred sexual positions and there's no shame in using what a fluke of nature gave us in order to drive physical pleasure from relationships, and yes, dare I say it, in order to make an income. You still haven't redacted your statement to the contrary. You didn't state a personal preference; you made an unwarranted, unsolicited judgement and you should clarify your statement or stand by it, not just re-tailor it in a poor attempt to placate me. I'm not going away anytime soon.

Is any of this getting through? :yayo:

~BB~

[Birgitta]

I apologize for not seeing your victimization complex sooner and not changing the laws of basic logic and universal understanding to accommodate your prejudiced, exclusive, self-serving, and closed-minded views. :geek:

You have no excuse for the things you said.


Please explain the laws of logic and universal understanding when it comes to straight heterosexual masculine men that want to have a pussy between their legs, and Tgirls (that were forced and unable to be themselves for usualy half of their lifetime) that find PLEASURE in performing like males in the bedroom.

Educate me.

[dderek123]

I would never have transitioned if not absolutely necessary, an my only wish is just to be normal girl.

But the circus around transgended woman in general is damaging.
I think it is a really bad stigma that due to TS porn Tgirls are portreyed as men serving passive men. Just because it sells.

Also it is damaging that those straight heterosexual lesbian T woman find their way to the media each time and make a fool out of the T community.
Cause nobody believes them!!!!

The amount of prejudice a T girl has to deal with due to her supposed sisters is a lot to swallow.

If Bella does not understand that, fuck her! lol

Well this kind of stuff happens in other walks of life. I imagine some republicans in America shudder each time they see some of the republican nut jobs on TV (Ann Coulther and such). One of my best friends is a priest and started his own church out here in Thailand. And he gets a little annoyed about how the nuttiest Christians end up on TV and give all of them a bad name (naturally he forgives them and moves on). I could go on and on.

You got to be thick skinned. I think I only have an idea what a TS has to go through on a daily basis but I don't think it's productive to judge others by your own criteria. Even the straight heterosexual lesbian T women. I just hope that people will see TS having positive relationships with others in the media. I think things would turn a corner and the general public would have a better understanding of TS.

[BellaBellucci]

Please explain the laws of logic and universal understanding when it comes to straight heterosexual masculine men that want to have a pussy between their legs, and Tgirls (that were forced and unable to be themselves for usualy half of their lifetime) that find PLEASURE in performing like males in the bedroom.

Educate me.

I was very clear. Yes, old men who think they're women and want vaginas are probably nuts (and we weren't even talking about them - I'm not sure how that even came into the convo). No, girls who top are not men. Is that clear enough for you? But you have to let people live on their own terms.

You're the one that needs to be doing the explaining right now Miss Thing! :lol:

~BB~

[Birgitta]

OK, so you're not talking about me anymore. Well, that's a start. And I agree that a lot of transwomen are decidedly not women. I'd be a fool to argue the point. However, a person's womanhood isn't defined by their preferred sexual positions and there's no shame in using what a fluke of nature gave us in order to drive physical pleasure from relationships, and yes, dare I say it, in order to make an income. You still haven't redacted your statement to the contrary. You didn't state a personal preference; you made an unwarranted, unsolicited judgement and you should clarify your statement or stand by it, not just re-tailor it in a poor attempt to placate me. I'm not going away anytime soon.

Is any of this getting through? :yayo:

~BB~

Honey with the right guy...I would let him suck me... but it will never be the first thing that is on my mind.

What I am adressing is that I think the T-porn/escort world is a fantasy world created not by the girls themselves but by the the desires of the males with feminine masochistic transvestite longings.

It is perfectly ok to make money from escort, or porn.

[BellaBellucci]

Honey with the right guy...I would let him suck me... but it will never be the first thing that is on my mind.

What I am adressing is that I think the T-porn/escort world is a fantasy world created not by the girls themselves but by the the desires of the males with feminine masochistic transvestite longings.

It is perfectly ok to make money from escort, or porn.

Actually, I think that the 'fantasy world' is regulated by a give and take between the girls and the guys that desire them. On the other hand, you insist that only your way is valid. I heard you loud and clear, so what's the issue here? If that's really what you believe, stand by it and I'll even respect you more for it, but even as you back peddle you're still being passive aggressively judgmental, not simply stating an opinion.

~BB~

[Birgitta]

OK, so you're not talking about me anymore. Well, that's a start. And I agree that a lot of transwomen are decidedly not women. I'd be a fool to argue the point. However, a person's womanhood isn't defined by their preferred sexual positions and there's no shame in using what a fluke of nature gave us in order to drive physical pleasure from relationships, and yes, dare I say it, in order to make an income. You still haven't redacted your statement to the contrary. You didn't state a personal preference; you made an unwarranted, unsolicited judgement and you should clarify your statement or stand by it, not just re-tailor it in a poor attempt to placate me. I'm not going away anytime soon.

Is any of this getting through? :yayo:

~BB~



I dont remember I was ever talking about you lol.
I am not stating a personal preference... It is NOT my personal preference to NOT want to be a top, to NOT be able to be a male.
People should not confuse preference with the way I am conditioned. Its not like open mindedness will save me from my condition lol.
I was simply born this way.... one can only argue with me about if being born is actually a choise.. but that is something else entirely.

And no I do not think my way is the only way.
Apparently "my way" is far more unique then I imagined. And I dont like to be unique lol. kind of tired of it lol.!

[Birgitta]

Well this kind of stuff happens in other walks of life. I imagine some republicans in America shudder each time they see some of the republican nut jobs on TV (Ann Coulther and such). One of my best friends is a priest and started his own church out here in Thailand. And he gets a little annoyed about how the nuttiest Christians end up on TV and give all of them a bad name (naturally he forgives them and moves on). I could go on and on.

You got to be thick skinned. I think I only have an idea what a TS has to go through on a daily basis but I don't think it's productive to judge others by your own criteria. Even the straight heterosexual lesbian T women. I just hope that people will see TS having positive relationships with others in the media. I think things would turn a corner and the general public would have a better understanding of TS.

Which is why I dont call myself a christian....even though I am one at a certain level...

I simply cant state I am not a TS anymore because I cannot identify with my sisters....unfortunately.

[Birgitta]

You got to be thick skinned. I think I only have an idea what a TS has to go through on a daily basis but I don't think it's productive to judge others by your own criteria. Even the straight heterosexual lesbian T women. I just hope that people will see TS having positive relationships with others in the media. I think things would turn a corner and the general public would have a better understanding of TS.

the understanding the general public gets from the TS community... is that we are all a bunch of straight masculine males that selfishly ruin marriages and the lives of children by insisting we are female while NOBODY in our envirement actually believes us....

And that those who are non/op love to fuck males and be top.... That is the image the general public will have of us...

I am sorry for expressing my feelings about it lol!
I will practise "openmindedness" next time LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BellaBellucci]

People should not confuse preference with the way I am conditioned. Its not like open mindedness will save me from my condition lol.

So why bother to have it, right? :yayo:


And no I do not think my way is the only way.
Apparently "my way" is far more unique then I imagined. And I dont like to be unique lol. kind of tired of it lol.!

You don't think you're unique. I'm unique. You think you're better.


I simply cant state I am not a TS anymore because I cannot identify with my sisters....unfortunately.

Thank you for proving my last point. You continue to allude that you're better than the rest of us, yet you still call us your 'sisters' so that you don't piss anyone else off. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Pick a side, Frogger, or else you'll get squished by the oncoming traffic.

http://c1.planetsave.com/files/2009/02/frogger.png

~BB~

[slingblade]

who thinks trannies should be bottoms? ....i dont understand...if a trannie wants to be a top so bad why don't she just remain a man and live as a gay dude? when i learn a trannie is a top or likes to top it turns me off, and i'm not interested in trannie topping porn. to me it defeats the purpose of them being trannies. But this is only my opinion. anybody else agree?



no youre not the only one ive wondered this myself why in the hell would someone waste time becomming a tranny if they want to top and fuck guys in the ass?

[Birgitta]

I dont think I am better Bella.... I am just different....

And I dont like the way we are portreyed in porn and in the media.
If I was a normal guy, I would stay as far away as possible from girls like us..and it would be perfectly valid and understandable.

Which is also probably why we seldomly see normal loving guys on forums like this... mostly the one's that are chasing their fetish.

There are nice guys here as well fortunately!!!

[Birgitta]

no youre not the only one ive wondered this myself why in the hell would someone waste time becomming a tranny if they want to top and fuck guys in the ass?

That is logical thinking and commen sense for you Bella.

[BellaBellucci]

the understanding the general public gets from the TS community... is that we are all a bunch of straight masculine males that selfishly ruin marriages and the lives of children by insisting we are female while NOBODY in our envirement actually believes us....

And that those who are non/op love to fuck males and be top.... That is the image the general public will have of us...

I am sorry for expressing my feelings about it lol!
I will practise "openmindedness" next time LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another epic FAIL. I myself am divorced, but the marriage was crumbling before I started transition. I have a child, but he's here with my right now sleeping like an angel. He's a happy kid who gets high grades in his accelerated class at school. Maybe the reason you feel the way you do is because you've never met anybody who's broken outside of your rigid labels. Well now you have. Still want to argue?

Not to mention the fact that there's PLENTY of porn in which a TS is bottom so I'm not sure how girls topping excludes the general public from seeing other sides of our sexuality. Part of being open-minded is honestly portraying every aspect of ourselves just as we appreciate every aspect of others.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

That is logical thinking and commen sense for you Bella.

Common sense is the fact that gender is a psychological construct, not a physical one. If you've been told otherwise, you're sadly misinformed.

~BB~

[slingblade]

Ever thought that some people just dont like anal sex you dumbass.

Seriously, why is EVERY THREAD YOU MAKE TO PISS ON SOMETHING YOU DONT LIKE?

IF ITS NOT YOUR THING, THEN MOVE THE FUCK ON.

then why even become a tranny if you dont like anal sex?

[Birgitta]

Another epic FAIL. I myself am divorced, but the marriage was crumbling before I started transition. I have a child, but he's here with my right now sleeping like an angel. He's a happy kid who gets high grades in his accelerated class at school. Maybe the reason you feel the way you do is because you've never met anybody who's broken outside of your rigid labels. Well now you have. Still want to argue?

Not to mention the fact that there's PLENTY of porn in which a TS is bottom so I'm not sure how girls topping excludes the general public from seeing other sides of our sexuality. Part of being open-minded is honestly portraying every aspect of ourselves just as we appreciate every aspect of others.

~BB~

I have met many like you bella...getting married and having children is actually a very masculine act. So are trannies that save their sperm in order to have children at a later point in life after SRS.
Those are things I will never understand...

I wonder if you are open minded enough to deal with it. lol

[amberskyi]

why the fuck is she here???

[Birgitta]

Common sense is the fact that gender is a psychological construct, not a physical one. If you've been told otherwise, you're sadly misinformed.

~BB~

Oh my god girl!!! You lost your mind!!!!
Gender is not psychological otherwise I would have just gotten into therapy and lived life as a male...

And I dont need to be told who and what I am even why!!!! I know that myself honey! lol

[BellaBellucci]

I have met many like you bella...getting married and having children is actually a very masculine act. So are trannies that save their sperm in order to have children at a later point in life after SRS.
Those are things I will never understand...

I wonder if you are open minded enough to deal with it. lol

So having children is masculine now? I've wanted to be a mom since I was a child. I found a way, however accidentally, to make that happen. As far as I'm concerned, if you have no motherly instinct, the man here is you. But, you know? That's just my 'opinion.' :geek:

~BB~

[amberskyi]

and bella im so over you indulging the crazy people lol.live in new york long enough you learn to no longer talk to the raving lunatics.

[Birgitta]

why the fuck is she here???

If I were narcissitic I might have a reason to be here Amber.

[amberskyi]

If I were narcissitic I might have a reason to be here Amber.

i get paid from being on here.whats your excuse for wasting your time??

[Birgitta]

So having children is masculine now? I've wanted to be a mom since I was a child. I found a way, however accidentally, to make that happen. As far as I'm concerned, if you have no motherly instinct, the man here is you. But, you know? That's just my 'opinion.' :geek:

~BB~

Of course I would have liked and wanted children but as a MOM, not as a daddy. That is what I mean, yours is a fantasy world girl.

lol

[BellaBellucci]

Oh my god girl!!! You lost your mind!!!!
Gender is not psychological otherwise I would have just gotten into therapy and lived life as a male...

And I dont need to be told who and what I am even why!!!! I know that myself honey! lol

If it's not psychological for you, if it's not about your identity moreso than your genitalia, then by definition you're not gender dysphoric, you're body dismorphic.

~BB~

[Birgitta]

i get paid from being on here.whats your excuse for wasting your time??

Blow off steam and entertainment.

[BellaBellucci]

Of course I would have liked and wanted children but as a MOM, not as a daddy. That is what I mean, yours is a fantasy world girl.

lol

My son doesn't even remember ever calling me Daddy. I transitioned when he was only 3. Now he's 8. The investigator in my divorce said I chose the 'best possible time in his development' to correct my birth defect. Wow, you got me fucked up. You really are an ugly, intolerant, ignorant piece of worthlessness, aren't you? :geek:

~BB~

[Mayrah]

I have met many like you bella...getting married and having children is actually a very masculine act. So are trannies that save their sperm in order to have children at a later point in life after SRS.
Those are things I will never understand...

I wonder if you are open minded enough to deal with it. lol

You got to be kidding me....:confused:

[Birgitta]

If it's not psychological for you, if it's not about your identity moreso than your genitalia, then by definition you're not gender dysphoric, you're body dismorphic.

~BB~

It is more about my identity then about genitalia, if it was not, I would not even excist LOL. But my identity is not a psychological construct... its the way my brains are wired... therefor it is physical... and I AM body dismorphic yes... due to genderdysforia.

[slingblade]

the reason why theres porn TS girls topping guys because its the one that sells

99.9999999999999999999% of TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms lol :)

that's a bunch of bull if youre a woman in the bed with youre getting fucked. all this guy stuff has gotten out of hand.

[BellaBellucci]

It is more about my identity then about genitalia, if it was not, I would not even excist LOL. But my identity is not a psychological construct... its the way my brains are wired... therefor it is physical... and I AM body dismorphic yes... due to genderdysforia.

Isn't that convenient? What's more likely is that you're a self-hating gay man. That would certainly be the simpler, more precise explanation. You want to play psyche games with me? I think you better 'axe' somebody. :lol:

~BB~

[Birgitta]

My son doesn't even remember ever calling me Daddy. I transitioned when he was only 3. Now he's 8. The investigator in my divorce said I chose the 'best possible time in his development' to correct my birth defect. Wow, you got me fucked up. You really are an ugly, intolerant, ignorant piece of worthlessness, aren't you? :geek:

~BB~

anytime you want me to be babe lol.

Sweety listen... I can understand it when you say... I denied myself my female identity and tried to marry and have children... I can get that...

What I do not get is why on earth you would want to PENETRATE a woman, marry her, make her love you, HAVE CHILDREN...
ALL BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BE A MOM...

I would describe someone acting in that way an ugly, ignorant piece of worthlessness.

You made your exwife probably very happy for lying to her like that...

[BellaBellucci]

that's a bunch of bull if youre a woman in the bed with youre getting fucked. all this guy stuff has gotten out of hand.

Excuse me, but actual transsexual women are having a conversation about transsexual women. Unless you're into forced sex changes I suggest you quickly learn your role and stay out of this.

~BB~

[slingblade]

Alyssa is not delusional
And i promise, it wont take long before
I leave this forum and everyone on it in peace
Its true this is no place for girls like me lol

dont leave the forum baby you're my kinda girl.. A beautiful feminine ts whos a total bottom.. I would love to eat your ass sometimes if you dont have any hang up with having your ass eaten lol. :fuckin:

[Birgitta]

dont leave the forum baby you're my kinda girl.. A beautiful feminine ts whos a total bottom.. I would love to eat your ass sometimes if you dont have any hang up with having your ass eaten lol. :fuckin:

Of course I dont honey... thats my favorite lol!

[BellaBellucci]

anytime you want me to be babe lol.

Sweety listen... I can understand it when you say... I denied myself my female identity and tried to marry and have children... I can get that...

What I do not get is why on earth you would want to PENETRATE a woman, marry her, make her love you, HAVE CHILDREN...
ALL BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BE A MOM...

I would describe someone acting in that way an ugly, ignorant piece of worthlessness.

You made your exwife probably very happy for lying to her like that...

Actually, she roped me because (I found out later) she was desperate for protection from her past. I literally couldn't get her to leave. One thing led to another and... well.

Are you done grasping at straws now? Who the fuck are you anyway? You make an awful lot of controversial statements for somebody that nobody seems to know.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

dont leave the forum baby you're my kinda girl.. A beautiful feminine ts whos a total bottom.. I would love to eat your ass sometimes if you dont have any hang up with having your ass eaten lol. :fuckin:

So tgirl topping = abnormal?

Licking duke chutes = normal?

Ok, got it Professor.

YouTube - EAT DA POO POO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w)

~BB~

[slingblade]

Excuse me, but actual transsexual women are having a conversation about tanssexual women. Unless you're into forced sex changes I suggest you quickly learn your role and stay out of this.

~BB~

Was I talking to your big mouth ass Bella? NO! Just because you wear a dress and panties dont mean youre a transwoman so dont get it twisted!