Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Could just be my opinion. But why cant the porn producers actually pay for some decent male talent as well?

A lot of the girls are using 'fans'. A lot of the production companies are using the same unattractive men.

This is the porn industry, not real life, everything is just a made up fantasy. Behind the porn set is some seedy little cameraman and another equally seedy producer on a backstreet appartment with a makeshift set.

But why not make it more polished? Instead of the weedy little guy who you get for free or even pays the ts or porn company a hundred bucks, why not actually pay some huge buff hung dude a thousand bucks to get in on with a real hottie ts?

Come on, imagine the chemistry if they both dig each other and the guy really wants to go at her, think how much better it will be on camera surely for the production and also the viewers, surely worth the extra money?

Ok, i understand that maybe the problem is finding these guys, but again, this is porn, its not real, why not hire some of the most buff and hung gay pornstars to feature with the ts. If the guys pop a few pills they will be bursting to go, they probably wont even need to anyway! The ts are sure as hell going to enjoy it.

If you ever watch gay porn and the hot guys in it compared to straight porn (although that isnt too bad), ts porn has got to be the worst for male talent.

Make an investment, if the hot hung gay dudes come at a price, its worth it because you will pay a bit more in order to get a much better cut and lots more footage!

[BellaBellucci]

Two words: stunt dick. Who really cares about the guy? :wiggle:

~BB~

[theone1982]

Well, Christian is pretty buff, but he's basically in every scene that doesn't involve Tom Moore. As long as the guy can get hard and stay hard and the girl is at least marginally interested in him, that's all I really care about regarding the guy in porn. I hate it when they can't get completely hard, it's like they're trying to unlock a doorknob with a piece of spaghetti.:)

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Two words: stunt dick. Who really cares about the guy? :wiggle:

~BB~

You see, i think this is the problem with ts porn. 'Stunt dick' meaning little weedy unattractive man who is hired free of charge or makes a donation for having the 'privallidge' of being in the porn movie.

Then it becomes rough, unpolished porn.

Granted, most viewers of ts porn do not look at the guys either, i am probably in the minority because i also enjoy gay and straight porn as well. But i think that if there was a very attractive guy, such as a top american male gay pornstar featured alongside a top ts pornstar. Surely the big budget production companies could organise this?

It works in favour for a few reasons.

1. The ts will go crazy for the guy. Let's not make out that its just porn and there is no attraction, you put a hot hung stud infront of a horny ts and her friends in a nightclub and they will perv all night long! So why not pair them up on the porn set instead?

2. The chemistry will be ten times greater.

3. Ts rock hard. Turned on, big cum shot.

4. Set runs real smooth, loads more footage captured, loads more photos taken because everything is more real, which means a lot more final product for the production company to put out.

Instead, you can see that there is no attraction at all, both parties are just going through the motions in most cases, particularly brazilian ts.

When it is ts on girl, ussually pretty hot girls are used. So why can the ts porn industry not just hire some buff gay pornstars to rattle up the ts. Make it more exciting?

[GroobySteven]

It always amazes me how much attention one or two people who claim to be into transsexuals put on the male performers.

Getting "buff gay pornstars" would just look like that, "buff gay pornstars" where having relatively normal, reasonably in-shape guys keeps a level of realism about it and can be just as hot. As much as I've tried to have Christian wear an afro wig and a false nose, the only reason people complain about him is that he is ubiquitous, apart from that he's a great performer, a nice guy AND I get models specifically wanting to work with him, again and again - and they get good scenes.

I don't see any problem with the male performers in the scenes, maybe you are looking at the males, just a little too hard?

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[GroobySteven]

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[f1manoz]

I could care less what the man looks like. You're looking in the wrong place!

[Lysandros]

Yep .. I don't prefer TM too
but nevertheless many TS models have never acted better than with him.

Christian made & makes a good job,
the early Kimber James precum clips are unthinkable without him.

btw .. all camera men should be concentrated on the actiing shemale,
I don't like the many seconds only actor's face is visible. :praying:


lys :party:


@ seanchai

Any chance to watch blonde Marylyn again on grooby.
I'm missing M. for years.

:Bowdown:

[GroobySteven]

@ seanchai

Any chance to watch blonde Marylyn again on grooby.
I'm missing M. for years.

:Bowdown:

I have no idea where she is - have you seen her advertising anywhere?

[TJ347]

It always amazes me how much attention one or two people who claim to be into transsexuals put on the male performers.


It shouldn't amaze you in the least, as this has been talked about for years. If enough male viewers imagine themselves to be fit and attractive, even if they're in fact neither of these things, you're going to eventually hear complaints when the male talent doesn't fit the same description in their minds. I figure this goes back to the belief that many men need to be able to imagine themselves participating in a scene in order for it to "work" for them... I know that this is important for me.

However, these days I'm just happy when the guy can get a sufficient erection to actually penetrate the girl. In that area, Tom and Christian do the job, and if I get tired enough of seeing their faces there's always the Brazilian flicks, which have a greater variety of male talent. Anyway, most important to me is that the girls earn their money for a scene, so if some limp-dicked dude is the chosen cocksman (particularly for a girl I'm really into), I'm going to be disappointed the same as if I'd watched a scene with the girl handling business solo. It has nothing to do with focusing on the male talent to any degree, but rather on what I need as an individual to "get off", so to speak, and what I need is to see some serious fucking when I waste money on porn. With a comment such as "too much attention being paid to male performers", you insult a customer who has spoken out regarding what he wants for his money. Maybe you don't agree, but what you, me and the OP need to deem a scene "hot" are not going to be quite the same, if they are the same at all.

[GroobySteven]

It has nothing to do with focusing on the male talent to any degree, but rather on what I need as an individual to "get off", so to speak. Let's not make this another "Am I gay" situation... The customers are speaking here.

What you need to get off, can be entirely different to the next person, and the next person. The best we can do is try to get it right for the majority and listening to someone who is really focused on the male models (whether it's a gay issue or not) is focusing on the smallest demograph, especially one wanting "buff gay guys". The vast majority of the customers come for the girls and that's where we focus. As long as the male performer looks decent and can do his job, I'm not going to put too much energy into that. I get about 20 applications a week from male performers, most of them unsuitable. The odd 1-2 who do make it through, often don't perform well, which is why we tend to stick to the ones that do work.

I think given the photos I've shown above, it shows that there are plenty of male performers that aren't "fat, ugly or out of shape." It does still amaze me, that you are putting the focus on the male performer though - you stated that it wasn't yet also that "if I get tired enough of seeing their faces there's always the Brazilian flicks, which have a greater variety of male talent."
I don't get it, I go to watch the girls that I like - and hope the male performer is good in that scene and unobtrusive, I have no interest in anything other about them.

[Lysandros]

I have no idea where she is - have you seen her advertising anywhere?

Ouch ... that doesn't sound good. :confused:

I remember well M's few solo episodes and
a tremendous hardcore scene with Ant (?): :jerkoff
A good actress who obviously liked what she did active & passive.
A loss if M is not more in business.

Maybe we should start a thread "Where is Marylyn" "We are missing M." ? :whistle:

Thanks :party:

[kaiser1one]

I'm tired of seeing the same bald, cross-gay guys in TS porn.

[traLika]

Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn


Really? The less I see of any guys in ts porn the better it is for me. In fact, I gravitate towards solo ts and ts on ts porn because it takes the guys out of the equation altogether.

But each to their own...

[TJ347]

It does still amaze me, that you are putting the focus on the male performer though - you stated that it wasn't yet also that "if I get tired enough of seeing their faces there's always the Brazilian flicks, which have a greater variety of male talent."
I don't get it, I go to watch the girls that I like - and hope the male performer is good in that scene and unobtrusive, I have no interest in anything other about them.

What's sad is that I knew when I said that, this would be the likely result. I thought what I was saying was fairly straightforward, but let me explain anyway... It's impossible NOT to recognize that it's Tom Moore or Christian yet again, whether you want to focus exclusively on the girl in the scene or not. If I feel, having seen Tom or Christian in the seventh movie I've watched this month, that I'm tired of having them be the male talent in every single one of those DVDs, I go to Brazilian flicks. This is what I was saying. I don't have to focus on the guy in the scene to an unusual degree to recognize when it's Tom or Christian; it's pretty much guaranteed to be one or the other in US flicks, so the only way you can be certain to miss them is if you're the type who only watches Strokers videos, which don't do anything for me.

That said, you're a producer, so you know the business better than I do. Far be it from me to criticize what is working for you. I'm just speaking, as was the OP, for what I do and don't like. You don't need my business and I understand that, but there is someone out there perhaps who may decide to tailor his or her wares to our tastes, which are not so unique as you seem to think they are.

[GroobySteven]

That said, you're a producer, so you know the business better than I do. Far be it from me to criticize what is working for you. I'm just speaking, as was the OP, for what I do and don't like. You don't need my business and I understand that, but there is someone out there perhaps who may decide to tailor his or her wares to our tastes, which are not so unique as you seem to think they are.

I just completely fail to see what difference the guy makes, as long as he looks decent and performs well. That being said, we don't use Tom Moore (he may have appeared in ONE of 100's of hardcore scenes we'd done), we do use Christian as he's excellent but we do change it around. Looking at the above scenes Christian probably features in less than 15% of our releases.

It's not that I don't need your business and I think your taking the comments a little personally considering this wasn't a thread about my business or feedback but a one complaining about "fat, ugly" male performers in favour of "buff gay ones". We welcome all feedback and try to act on it, where appropriate which, as I mentioned, we don't feature Tom and feature other male performers so you aren't really putting a point across to me, about OUR specific product but of course, I'm open to hearing it.

[TJ347]

I just completely fail to see what difference the guy makes, as long as he looks decent and performs well. That being said, we don't use Tom Moore (he may have appeared in ONE of 100's of hardcore scenes we'd done), we do use Christian as he's excellent but we do change it around. Looking at the above scenes Christian probably features in less than 15% of our releases.

It's not that I don't need your business and I think your taking the comments a little personally considering this wasn't a thread about my business or feedback but a one complaining about "fat, ugly" male performers in favour of "buff gay ones". We welcome all feedback and try to act on it, where appropriate which, as I mentioned, we don't feature Tom and feature other male performers so you aren't really putting a point across to me, about OUR specific product but of course, I'm open to hearing it.

The porn that I tend to watch, to be honest, isn't your product given that typically I watch Brazilian porn. When I do watch US transsexual porn, Tom and/or Christian seem to always be in it, but it doesn't really bother me too much given that I don't watch porn often these days. In fact, the last time I watched a US production, it was the one with Ava Devine, Vicki Richter, Vo D'Balm and Carmen Cruz, and that movie came out quite some time ago I'm sure.

Anyway, I'm not taking anything personally; I was just saying that as you're clearly selling product, I don't expect you or anyone else to change a successful formula to suit the OP or myself. As to him wanting "buff gays" in his transsexual porn... That isn't what I want at all, and indeed, you can't please everyone, nor is it worth trying to. As I said, I'm just happy when a girl I like earns her money in a scene. If you see to that (i.e. the male talent performing well) I'm pleased enough not to feel like I got ripped off. Sadly, this tends not to be the case with porn I've seen overall more often than not, even the Brazilian flicks.

[TSPornFan]

I have not seen any fat and out of shape men in TS porn.


Well, Christian is pretty buff, but he's basically in every scene that doesn't involve Tom Moore. As long as the guy can get hard and stay hard and the girl is at least marginally interested in him, that's all I really care about regarding the guy in porn. I hate it when they can't get completely hard, it's like they're trying to unlock a doorknob with a piece of spaghetti.:)

What? Christian has a threesome scene with Tom Moore in Transsexual Babysitters. It has no bi/homosexual action.

[KelticForce1349]

Could just be my opinion. But why cant the porn producers actually pay for some decent male talent as well?

A lot of the girls are using 'fans'. A lot of the production companies are using the same unattractive men.

This is the porn industry, not real life, everything is just a made up fantasy. Behind the porn set is some seedy little cameraman and another equally seedy producer on a backstreet appartment with a makeshift set.

But why not make it more polished? Instead of the weedy little guy who you get for free or even pays the ts or porn company a hundred bucks, why not actually pay some huge buff hung dude a thousand bucks to get in on with a real hottie ts?

Come on, imagine the chemistry if they both dig each other and the guy really wants to go at her, think how much better it will be on camera surely for the production and also the viewers, surely worth the extra money?

Ok, i understand that maybe the problem is finding these guys, but again, this is porn, its not real, why not hire some of the most buff and hung gay pornstars to feature with the ts. If the guys pop a few pills they will be bursting to go, they probably wont even need to anyway! The ts are sure as hell going to enjoy it.

If you ever watch gay porn and the hot guys in it compared to straight porn (although that isnt too bad), ts porn has got to be the worst for male talent.

Make an investment, if the hot hung gay dudes come at a price, its worth it because you will pay a bit more in order to get a much better cut and lots more footage!

I can't believe you made an entire thread just to call me out and make fun of my physique sir. My feelings are deeply hurt by your assessment of my physical hardware.

In the future I will try to reach for the viagra jar more often than the bowl of M+M's. Off to the gym I go...:hide-1:

[TSPornFan]

Ok, i understand that maybe the problem is finding these guys, but again, this is porn, its not real, why not hire some of the most buff and hung gay pornstars to feature with the ts. If the guys pop a few pills they will be bursting to go, they probably wont even need to anyway! The ts are sure as hell going to enjoy it.


You're know much about the business. You shouldn't be speaking. Most of the men in TS porn also appear in gay porn. Christian, Gabriel, Tom Moore, TY Roderick, ect. Most of the men on TS Seduction have appeared on Kink's gay sites.

[LibertyHarkness]

guys i shoot with are soley straight male performers the only TS scenes tehy ever done are with me and joanna ... otherwise they just shoot with the females .. in uk i find it hard to find gay guys to shoot with a ts ,, its much easier to ask a straight dude ,, as long as your not wanting them to bottom ..

[alyssaluxor]

It always amazes me how much attention one or two people who claim to be into transsexuals put on the male performers.

Getting "buff gay pornstars" would just look like that, "buff gay pornstars" where having relatively normal, reasonably in-shape guys keeps a level of realism about it and can be just as hot. As much as I've tried to have Christian wear an afro wig and a false nose, the only reason people complain about him is that he is ubiquitous, apart from that he's a great performer, a nice guy AND I get models specifically wanting to work with him, again and again - and they get good scenes.

I don't see any problem with the male performers in the scenes, maybe you are looking at the males, just a little too hard?

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0415/pics/001.jpg
http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0318/pics/004.jpg
http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0311/pics/002.jpg
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uhmmm these guys are yummy!!!

[tsnajwa]

It always amazes me how much attention one or two people who claim to be into transsexuals put on the male performers.

Getting "buff gay pornstars" would just look like that, "buff gay pornstars" where having relatively normal, reasonably in-shape guys keeps a level of realism about it and can be just as hot. As much as I've tried to have Christian wear an afro wig and a false nose, the only reason people complain about him is that he is ubiquitous, apart from that he's a great performer, a nice guy AND I get models specifically wanting to work with him, again and again - and they get good scenes.

I don't see any problem with the male performers in the scenes, maybe you are looking at the males, just a little too hard?

http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0415/pics/001.jpg
http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0318/pics/004.jpg
http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0311/pics/002.jpg
http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2011/0304/pics/002.jpg
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last picture. so thats what frankie munez has been doing..

[toopretty]

christian is kinda creepy too. it is even worse in amatuer ts porn... the dudes are either whales or they are dressed up in drag. south american ts porn is better in that aspect. the dudes dont look like total schmoes

[theone1982]

I have not seen any fat and out of shape men in TS porn.



What? Christian has a threesome scene with Tom Moore in Transsexual Babysitters. It has no bi/homosexual action.

I know. I meant if Tom Moore isn't in a scene, you're likely to see Christian. I didn't mean that they won't do scenes together.

[theone1982]

last picture. so thats what frankie munez has been doing..

Lol!:lol: I was thinking the same thing!:dancing: