Would you start a relationship with a Escort

[Jericho]

I had a relationship with an escort once.
It was nothing but pain, grief and misery, and you wouldn't believe the money I spent on her.
Last fukkin Ford I ever bought! :shrug

[Nicole Dupre]

I had a relationship with an escort once.
It was nothing but pain, grief and misery, and you wouldn't believe the money I spent on her.
Dating imho is not a relationship. I won't casually date a guy if they're not generous. I know no one likes to hear that. But I don't hide it, so I don't care. The man is at least taking me out to a great restaurant and/or buying me a nice gift, or SOMETHING. I'm a very pleasant date if I'm shown that respect. But, when they ask me if I want to 'see movie and go to a diner', I'm like, "You're fucking high. Keep dreaming, big spender."

Booty calls are rare with me. Generally, I do them out of sheer nosiness, about the guy's dick or simply what he likes in bed. And I will never see them again after that.

[amberskyi]

Of course you do. I am sure you really believe that too. And nobody asked you to prove anything.

lol.yep i really do.

[Dino Velvet]

lol.yep i really do.

I look like that when I bite into a lemon. A really sour one.

[Prospero]

Amber. It is really nice of you to date someone with a deformity like that.

[Birgitta]

Hey Amber, just so you know, transition is no competition !
Have fun with your bf !

[Prospero]

I had a relationship with an escort once.
It was nothing but pain, grief and misery, and you wouldn't believe the money I spent on her.
Last fukkin Ford I ever bought! :shrug

ROFL Jericho. Shoulda got yourself a Cortina

[amberskyi]

Hey Amber, just so you know, transition is no competition !
Have fun with your bf !

transition is no competition? girl what are you talking about??

[amberskyi]

Amber. It is really nice of you to date someone with a deformity like that.

lol.what can i say,im a ho with a big heart

[evilernie]

I'm sure I am generalizing, but I don't think I can trust an escort enough to have an intimate relationship. Being an acquaintance or "sort of" friends is a different story.

Being an escort (or actress) is in the profession of making their partner feel special for a given amount of time. How confident can I really be to know if she is sincere or just acting until she achieved her agenda?

As I said, I am generalizing and apologize for the people I offended.

[Birgitta]

transition is no competition? girl what are you talking about??

Nevermind...x

[Nicole Dupre]

transition is no competition? girl what are you talking about??
Being "complete" is another way of saying someone's post-op. It's not a very current term. Pre-ops were frowned on much more before the TS porn phenomenon. By Harry Benjamin Standards, any TS who is comfortable being a pre-op is a "secondary transsexual". "Primary transsexuals" are generally those who wish to be post-op and are exclusively attracted to the opposite sex of whatever their desired gender is. In other words, transbians are technically not "primary".

[Nicole Dupre]

Also, years ago, if you told a doctor you felt like you were a "woman trapped in a man's body", they immediately pushed you towards an orchiectomy. If you protested, they would try to label you nuts and find a shrink to give you shock treatment.

[Paladin]

I wouldn't care if a girlfriend or boyfriend worked in the sex industry but the thing with escorting (prostitution) is what kind of diseases they will be bringing home from sleeping around. Surprised that's not an issue for any of you guys. :/

It's because they are a bunch of cockhounds and don't care about anything else.

[amberskyi]

Being "complete" is another way of saying someone's post-op. It's not a very current term. Pre-ops were frowned on much more before the TS porn phenomenon. By Harry Benjamin Standards, any TS who is comfortable being a pre-op is a "secondary transsexual". "Primary transsexuals" are generally those who wish to be post-op and are exclusively attracted to the opposite sex of whatever their desired gender is. In other words, transbians are technically not "primary".

im still not sure what this has to do with my boyfriend and i

[YasminLee]

-to be compeletely honest I'm not sure I would date an escort even though I am one myself. I can imagine I would be able too but not 100% sure. A lot has to do with trust. I'm not jealous if he enjoy contact with another woman but rather he does so much that I loose him. Or while he's out there, the endless opportunity of him finding someone better and leaving me behind.
-It's very unfortunate in the ts community because we want the girls to not work yet we live in a world where we push them toward it. Most girls jump into this world because it's easy. Life for us is hard and so we reach out for easy as a breath of that much needed air. You turn to the world that need money to live and realized you can't be in most job setting because of discrimination; and you turn to love and realized most guys want you sexually but not in their life. Somewhere through this blur we find the balance of power with charging them for using us. Makes sense when the reality of all the tgirls around you seem to be doing the same thing. Next thing you know you're in that life dealing with guys that don't want you because you do escort and so oiled up this endless cycle of same sad story, same sad reality stemmed from social unjust.
-I do understand why some don't want to date escorts and it doesn't make me angry but just sad. I just wish there are as many guys standing along our sides to protest for equality as there are of them writing about how they rather not be with the girls because they escort.

[mikelpo]

Nice post Yasmin, your beautiful inside and out x

[MdR Dave]

By Harry Benjamin Standards, any TS who is comfortable being a pre-op is a "secondary transsexual". "Primary transsexuals" are generally those who wish to be post-op and are exclusively attracted to the opposite sex of whatever their desired gender is. In other words, transbians are technically not "primary".

"Primary" and "secondary" are ordinal terms. I've never read his stuff but if HB was actually ranking people then he's probably a douche.

If he's a scientist he probably mistakenly (or unknowingly) ascribed positions in a hierarchy because he didn't think to delineate a nominal position in his studies from a more (seemingly) judgmental order.

Also, isn't Amy Daly a 'transbian"? Try to send her to the back of the bus and see how many folks get all Rosa Parks about that $hit!

Goodnight, Springfield!

And Amber, this has NOTHING to do with your boyfriend!

[MdR Dave]

. . Most girls jump into this world because it's easy. . . You turn to the world that need money to live and realized you can't be in most job setting because of discrimination. . . and you turn to love and realized most guys want you sexually but not in their life.. . .Next thing you know you're in that life dealing with guys that don't want you because you do escort. . . I just wish there are as many guys standing along our sides to protest for equality as there are of them writing about how they rather not be with the girls because they escort.


Funny, my girlfriend's mad at me because I don't just want to fu€k her all the time, I want to concentrate on the things other guys won't do or be for her.

And I'm mad at her for an emotional connection I find threatening ( I have gotten past the escort thing, though routine blood tests prove I'm not ignorant of it).

I was sure I needed to break up with her, Yasmin, and now I don't know after reading your thoughts. Not sure whether to thank you or curse you

Time will tell. . .

[YasminLee]

I can only generalized based on my life experiences and of those I know, and those I heard of before me. Nothing is ever 100% exact because circumstances changes with close encounter of the individual. It is up to you if you love her to know what's best for her, you, and ur relationship. I know that if I find that perfect man, there are room for compromising because if you love someone, your life is shared and no longer just yours

[Nicole Dupre]

There's two types of guys that would want a LTR w/ an escort; those that think they won the lottery, and are now getting it for free, and those who care enough about the girl DESPITE the fact that she shares physical intimacy outside of the relationship. On a forum like this, it's likely that the guys who say "where do I sign up, ma?" are just jackasses who want freebies. Guys looking for freebies try every stupid game you could imagine.

The other type are completely different. Their heart breaks a little every time you see a client. I feel badly for them. I've done it to guys. I also hate having that power over them. After a while, they seem like a wimp. I start thinking, "Why the fuck can't you be a man, who can support us both?" At those times, they actually seem like the guy looking for the freebie, even when they're not. lol For me, a LTR doesn't work unless there's a nice balance of things; when you're partners in a nice life that you both share.

Then, there is the sugardaddy, who wants to somewhat control you with money. He wants a little of both worlds. Sometimes he'll seem worth it, and at times he'll seem like just another pain in the ass trick. In the end tho', he'll always seem like a trick to me. He can't have my heart, because he thought it had a price tag. If he's ok with not being genuinely loved; wonderful. If not, I'll start to resent him right back.

The best possible case scenario is a HUSBAND or significant other. That way, there's no shame, no power struggles, and no bullshit. When he puts you on a pedestal and takes care of you, and you genuinely love him, that's as good as it gets imo. And ALL girls want that Prince Charming. Some deserve him. But, unfortunately, most of you turn out to be FROGS. lol :-)

[Prospero]

Nicole - you speak from what seems to be a wealth (if that is the right way to describe the negative aspects) of experience. Is there a way for a girl like you - clearly bright, witty, strong and attractive - working as an escort to get the emotional nourishment you need. or is that just a section of self you've shut down. At the heart of tour life is there a void - or is it grown over with a carapace of cynicism? I really am not being snide here - just genuinely curious. You have just written so eloquently of the types of men who seem to want to be your lover/friend that, of all the escorting girls on here, perhaps you can address this?

[Nicole Dupre]

"Primary" and "secondary" are ordinal terms. I've never read his stuff but if HB was actually ranking people then he's probably a douche.

If he's a scientist he probably mistakenly (or unknowingly) ascribed positions in a hierarchy because he didn't think to delineate a nominal position in his studies from a more (seemingly) judgmental order.

Also, isn't Amy Daly a 'transbian"? Try to send her to the back of the bus and see how many folks get all Rosa Parks about that $hit!

Goodnight, Springfield!

And Amber, this has NOTHING to do with your boyfriend!
Imo transbians are not the same as hetero M2F TS. Imo they are often hetero CDs who love being fulltime, with a kinky aspect involved in their transition. If that works for them, fantastic. I just can't relate.

For me there is no sexual rush in being a TS. I'm sure with many transbians it's like that as well. But some, I really doubt it.

And the HBS are outdated. It's a different world now. There's too much variation to generalize. But I know this. Hetero CDs are the PLAGUE to me, when they try to equate themselves with trannys. They're not. It's a kink; not GID.

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole - you speak from what seems to be a wealth (if that is the right way to describe the negative aspects) of experience. Is there a way for a girl like you - clearly bright, witty, strong and attractive - working as an escort to get the emotional nourishment you need. or is that just a section of self you've shut down. At the heart of tour life is there a void - or is it grown over with a carapace of cynicism? I really am not being snide here - just genuinely curious. You have just written so eloquently of the types of men who seem to want to be your lover/friend that, of all the escorting girls on here, perhaps you can address this?
If you knew when you were little that you were getting boxed into something that didn't fit who you were - a penis between your legs - you might see it the way I do. If that's cynicism, what's the alternative? Living a lie? I can only imagine how many people have killed themselves without even understanding their own GID. Do I blame the world? I could blame the world for lots of things, but it would do me no good. I blame the Catholic Church for not feeding starving children. And I blame the cowardly men who aren't proud enough of who they are, that they make us a dirty little secret.

But if I felt sorry myself, I'd get nowhere fast. So just trust when I say that transsexuals are some of the most strong-willed people you could ever meet.

But I don't plan on being a sexworker my whole life either. I may be honest about the basics of my life with people online, but there's more to me than that. My real hopes and dreams, I would never bother sharing with people on a porn forum. This is just chit-chat. But trust me, I don't believe the hype about myself or any other girl here. And I won't be in TS sexworker land forever. Enjoy me while you can. ;-)

[amberskyi]

"Primary" and "secondary" are ordinal terms. I've never read his stuff but if HB was actually ranking people then he's probably a douche.

If he's a scientist he probably mistakenly (or unknowingly) ascribed positions in a hierarchy because he didn't think to delineate a nominal position in his studies from a more (seemingly) judgmental order.

Also, isn't Amy Daly a 'transbian"? Try to send her to the back of the bus and see how many folks get all Rosa Parks about that $hit!

Goodnight, Springfield!

And Amber, this has NOTHING to do with your boyfriend!

um well she quoted me so i was just asking.shimmer down dude

[Prospero]

Thanks Nicole. Good answer and yes - sharing the deeper emotional stuff on a porn forum is inappropriate. Best.

[Nicole Dupre]

Thanks Nicole. Good answer and yes - sharing the deeper emotional stuff on a porn forum is inappropriate. Best.
I'll cap it off with this.

The majority of guys here, as they sit there with their dicks in their hands, anonymously jerking off, don't deserve SHIT. They're cowards, who are afraid of what their families and friends would think, even if they knew that they were with a post-op and love of cock wasn't an issue. They lack the BALLS to live a REAL life, the way we do. In fact, once you scratch the surface of their facades, they lack the pride and courage to do many things. They don't like themselves enough, I s'pose. They don't LOVE themselves. And, when you can't be proud of yourself and love yourself, you can't be proud of, or love, your woman. And that's why all these losers hide their faces, marry GGs, and do this stuff on the DL. That's why I say, PAY THROUGH THE NOSE, you big pussies! lol

[Birgitta]

Being "complete" is another way of saying someone's post-op. It's not a very current term. Pre-ops were frowned on much more before the TS porn phenomenon. By Harry Benjamin Standards, any TS who is comfortable being a pre-op is a "secondary transsexual". "Primary transsexuals" are generally those who wish to be post-op and are exclusively attracted to the opposite sex of whatever their desired gender is. In other words, transbians are technically not "primary".

You input was totally off topic and harry benjamin was wrong...
Fact is a lot of transbians get the surgery and more straight and naturally feminine (into men) do not !!!!!!
The trans support groups in my country are flooded with men talking about football and their wife's not accepting them and last but not least -almost everything- seems to be centered around the surgery for them !!!!!!

[Nicole Dupre]

You input was totally off topic and harry benjamin was wrong...
Fact is a lot of transbians get the surgery and more straight and naturally feminine (into men) do not !!!!!!
The trans support groups in my country are flooded with men talking about football and their wife's not accepting them and last but not least -almost everything- seems to be centered around the surgery for them !!!!!!
Then don't blurt something out, and then say "never mind". I'm not a mindreader, and I don't know or care where you're from. In the US, which is where this forum is coming from, when a girl says "complete", it means post op. lol

And I don't know what all the "!!!!!" stuff is, following your statements that don't make much sense. If you are a transbian, congrats. But who gives a shit? I don't care who you fuck, or what you fuck them with.

[Nicole Dupre]

And where do you see me praising HBS?

[Nicole Dupre]

The trans support groups in my country are flooded with men talking about football and their wife's not accepting them and last but not least -almost everything- seems to be centered around the surgery for them !!!!!!

That, I can agree with. But don't jump down my throat. All I said is, i think that there are many transbians who are hetero CDs who went fulltime, and that actually being a girl is a kink for them. Sorry to throw a concept at you that's foreign, and has got you losing your composure.

[Birgitta]

Imo transbians are not the same as hetero M2F TS. Imo they are often hetero CDs who love being fulltime, with a kinky aspect involved in their transition. If that works for them, fantastic. I just can't relate.

For me there is no sexual rush in being a TS. I'm sure with many transbians it's like that as well. But some, I really doubt it.

And the HBS are outdated. It's a different world now. There's too much variation to generalize. But I know this. Hetero CDs are the PLAGUE to me, when they try to equate themselves with trannys. They're not. It's a kink; not GID.

For me it does not matter really anymore, but i am quite suprised that with your experience you dont know about transbians, almost all by definition get the surgery, its all they want...they NEVER were feminine in ANY way pre transition and usually their gid starts with getting horny dressing up and it gets more extreme over time untill they suddenly say, "i am a 100% woman and i need the surgery now !!!!! Or i will have a nervous breakdown"...even though they put 5 children on the world with it (usually with a feminine masochistic housewife coz pre transition they are very manly and macho )....

It bothers me to the extreme that people who know little about ts, compare their condition to mine....its like you went to auswitz and the one's that are supposed to be your sisters say its disneyland, and that i wad not able to adopt well enough...not flexible enough, that they were better actors then me.

Believe me, if you are able to portrey a manly man, married, in the army, everything masculine while you are a woman, you'll get a contract in hollywood instantly...

It is not possible !!!!! Its not psychologically possible when you are born in the wrong body to be This succesfull in life ...and you know what, when these transbians get comments in public, some of them even say "hey why are you doing thus to me, im not gay, im a woman' lol

Totally unbelievable behavior !

On the other hand the feminine gay types often miss female sensitivity too, a lot start as a transvestite, and become attention craving girls with a ver cold gay and sometimes over the top attitude....

I really miss the girls in the scene, you know the one's that truely understand what its really like, they are out there, but they are a minority...

And you know, everyone should be respected, no matter what kind of ts, we are all differenr for who knows what reasons...

[Nicole Dupre]

For me it does not matter really anymore, but i am quite suprised that with your experience you dont know about transbians, almost all by definition get the surgery, its all they want...they NEVER were feminine in ANY way pre transition and usually their gid starts with getting horny dressing up and it gets more extreme over time untill they suddenly say, "i am a 100% woman and i need the surgery now !!!!! Or i will have a nervous breakdown"...even though they put 5 children on the world with it (usually with a feminine masochistic housewife coz pre transition they are very manly and macho )....

It bothers me to the extreme that people who know little about ts, compare their condition to mine....its like you went to auswitz and the one's that are supposed to be your sisters say its disneyland, and that i wad not able to adopt well enough...not flexible enough, that they were better actors then me.

Believe me, if you are able to portrey a manly man, married, in the army, everything masculine while you are a woman, you'll get a contract in hollywood instantly...

It is not possible !!!!! Its not psychologically possible when you are born in the wrong body to be This succesfull in life ...and you know what, when these transbians get comments in public, some of them even say "hey why are you doing thus to me, im not gay, im a woman' lol

Totally unbelievable behavior !

On the other hand the feminine gay types often miss female sensitivity too, a lot start as a transvestite, and become attention craving girls with a ver cold gay and sometimes over the top attitude....

I really miss the girls in the scene, you know the one's that truely understand what its really like, they are out there, but they are a minority...

And you know, everyone should be respected, no matter what kind of ts, we are all differenr for who knows what reasons...
Wow. lol Take a Valium. I think I actually can agree with you, once you wipe the foam from your mouth. And it doesn't seem like you've got a handle on that lofty notion of "female sensitivity" yourself right now. lol I think someone here needs a good fuck. ;-) lol

[Birgitta]

Then don't blurt something out, and then say "never mind". I'm not a mindreader, and I don't know or care where you're from. In the US, which is where this forum is coming from, when a girl says "complete", it means post op. lol

And I don't know what all the "!!!!!" stuff is, following your statements that don't make much sense. If you are a transbian, congrats. But who gives a shit? I don't care who you fuck, or what you fuck them with.

I am not a transbian...i never used the word 'complete'
I told amber "transition is no competition"

Ineeda sm was being nice, he usually is :) and told me that real men want someone with my attitude (which might be true but how many real men are there dating trannies) lol !

But she somehow became furious that he made me a compliment and started posting pics of her boyfriend, as if its a competition....

[Birgitta]

Wow. lol Take a Valium. I think I actually can agree with you, once you wipe the foam from your mouth. And it doesn't seem like you've got a handle on that lofty notion of "female sensitivity" yourself right now. lol I think someone here needs a good fuck. ;-) lol
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Who says woman cant be angry lol
And i just had one but i need moooorrrrreeeeeee !!!

[Nicole Dupre]

Ok. So I misread it. My bad. But I wasn't pointing fingers. Take your medicine, gurl. But save some for me too. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

I think he was saying she was full of shit, and had no BF. And she proved him wrong. He sounds like a total jackass to me. And he looks like fool, sprawled out on his gut with his schlong hanging off to the side, talking about what "real men" are, and how she needs to learn about them.

Anyway, that's what I got from it. If it was competition, why would she distort his face?

[Birgitta]

I think he was saying she was full of shit, and had no BF. And she proved him wrong. He sounds like a total jackass to me. And he looks like fool, sprawled out on his gut with his schlong hanging off to the side, talking about what "real men" are, and how she needs to learn about them.

Anyway, that's what I got from it. If it was competition, why would she distort his face?
Lol thats true, but if i ever would fuck a guy in the ass it would be a real man !!! Lol
No seriously i dont top but envy the girls that can lol !!!
When i visit any ts scene its always as if everyone is having a good time being a ts except for me whhheeeh i want my mommy etc...

[Birgitta]

I think he was saying she was full of shit, and had no BF. And she proved him wrong. He sounds like a total jackass to me. And he looks like fool, sprawled out on his gut with his schlong hanging off to the side, talking about what "real men" are, and how she needs to learn about them.

Anyway, that's what I got from it. If it was competition, why would she distort his face?


Wow. lol Take a Valium. I think I actually can agree with you, once you wipe the foam from your mouth. And it doesn't seem like you've got a handle on that lofty notion of "female sensitivity" yourself right now. lol I think someone here needs a good fuck. ;-) lol

Probably coz our backgrounds are simular, and our view on men too lol

[Nicole Dupre]

lol

I'm technically versatile, but didn't even try topping until I escorted. Now I look at it as jerking off into some sad dude's asshole, as I think about Brad Pitt feeding me peeled grapes and kissing my ears and neck. lol

[Birgitta]

lol

I'm technically versatile, but didn't even try topping until I escorted. Now I look at it as jerking off into some sad dude's asshole,

Telling them that while you do it might make them come back and pay more, lol !

[Birgitta]

Amber responded to a compliment ineeda sm made me, it was not directed at her...she chose to take it as an assault on her femininity...

Also one of the things i dont understand, this constant competition on being and becoming the most feminine looking etc looking down on the less fortunate girls etc

I transitioned at 30, i pass, without any surgery of any kind, i am no beauty queen but am thrilled some men like me and flirt with me, its such inmense satisfaction after always having felt repulsive and freakish,
But i never forget ever, how that was like, and i could never ever become arrogant or showing off my looks to anyone, let alone start a competition....

It does not take much to make me insecure and jealous, i mean lol, i am even having sleepless nights now asking myself why i cant top lol !

No seriously, very rarely but sometimes, gg's give me a jealous eye, (coz they too get jealous and insecure over anything !) And i hate it and think its total madness when that happens ....its bad enough as it is that we are judged so much by the way we look, and am certainly not going to feed that belief that self worth has more to do with how attractive one is, then how you are on the inside...

Everyone wants and deserves love, and i do believe this shallow way of living life is making a lot of people, and some trannies especially, very unhappy, to the point they become suicidal

[amberskyi]

Amber responded to a compliment ineeda sm made me, it was not directed at her...she chose to take it as an assault on her femininity...

Also one of the things i dont understand, this constant competition on being and becoming the most feminine looking etc looking down on the less fortunate girls etc

I transitioned at 30, i pass, without any surgery of any kind, i am no beauty queen but am thrilled some men like me and flirt with me, its such inmense satisfaction after always having felt repulsive and freakish,
But i never forget ever, how that was like, and i could never ever become arrogant or showing off my looks to anyone, let alone start a competition....

It does not take much to make me insecure and jealous, i mean lol, i am even having sleepless nights now asking myself why i cant top lol !

No seriously, very rarely but sometimes, gg's give me a jealous eye, (coz they too get jealous and insecure over anything !) And i hate it and think its total madness when that happens ....its bad enough as it is that we are judged so much by the way we look, and am certainly not going to feed that belief that self worth has more to do with how attractive one is, then how you are on the inside...

Everyone wants and deserves love, and i do believe this shallow way of living life is making a lot of people, and some trannies especially, very unhappy, to the point they become suicidal

i didnt take anything as an attack on my femininity.i just wanted to know why you were accusing me of being competitive with my transition.you guys on this board are way to high strung....WOO-SAHHHH

[amberskyi]

I am not a transbian...i never used the word 'complete'
I told amber "transition is no competition"

Ineeda sm was being nice, he usually is :) and told me that real men want someone with my attitude (which might be true but how many real men are there dating trannies) lol !

But she somehow became furious that he made me a compliment and started posting pics of her boyfriend, as if its a competition....

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GIRLS?!?ME POSTING ONE PIC OF ME AND MY BOYFRIEND (WITH HIS FACE BLURRED OUT) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU
.it was in response to the notion that an escort cant find real love.ive had conversations with indeed sm about this before.while i do respect his choice to not date an escort i think its completely silly of him to state his opinions about love and relationships as absolute truths.he says things all the time about because we are escorts we'll never experience "true love" or be with "real men" (says the guy with a picture f his ass in the air lmao).

[amberskyi]

I think he was saying she was full of shit, and had no BF. And she proved him wrong. He sounds like a total jackass to me. And he looks like fool, sprawled out on his gut with his schlong hanging off to the side, talking about what "real men" are, and how she needs to learn about them.

Anyway, that's what I got from it. If it was competition, why would she distort his face?

lmaaoooooooo.thank you nicole,you always had brains.

[Birgitta]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GIRLS?!?ME POSTING ONE PIC OF ME AND MY BOYFRIEND (WITH HIS FACE BLURRED OUT) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU
.it was in response to the notion that an escort cant find real love.ive had conversations with indeed sm about this before.while i do respect his choice to not date an escort i think its completely silly of him to state his opinions about love and relationships as absolute truths.he says things all the time about because we are escorts we'll never experience "true love" or be with "real men" (says the guy with a picture f his ass in the air lmao).

I was not aware that you had a conversation with him before, and that your reply was a respond to that.

About the subject then, i dont think the "normal" rules of dating really apply to us, the fact that you are a ts is generally far worse then a girl being an escort...a gg escort will have way more ease finding a good guy for a relationship then a ts, thats my view opinion, i know many of the girls here say they have had many guys that were cool,
Fortunately, i dont need many guys, just one....

[Nicole Dupre]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GIRLS?!?ME POSTING ONE PIC OF ME AND MY BOYFRIEND (WITH HIS FACE BLURRED OUT) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU

I admitted that I just misread something, mostly because wherever she was going with it no made no sense. lol I can't comment on someone else's relationship if I know nothing about it. lol

Beyond this, I'm not touching whatever point she's trying to make to you about your BF with a 10 foot pole. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Telling them that while you do it might make them come back and pay more, lol !
Humiliation is on the menu. lol

[needsum]

Humiliation is on the menu. lol

If I ask you to tell me you love me while you're back there, will it cost me double? lol:dancing:

[Nicole Dupre]

If I ask you to tell me you love me while you're back there, will it cost me double? lol:dancing:
Why don't you actually see if you can stack up enough of those roses to even call. And then, grow your daydreaming balls big enough to act on it. If and when you show up, you MIGHT get taken seriously. How does that sound? lol

[Ineeda SM]

I think he was saying she was full of shit, and had no BF. And she proved him wrong. He sounds like a total jackass to me. And he looks like fool, sprawled out on his gut with his schlong hanging off to the side, talking about what "real men" are, and how she needs to learn about them.


What makes you think the Avatar is me? Or was that your desperate last ditch way of insulting me because you are just an arrogant bitch, and get off on it?

Anyway, I never said Amber was full of shit and had no BF. That is how Amber's self centered attitude took it, and because she was confronted, she had to prove that she could have a boyfriend. But she didn't prove that it is real true love. That would be impossible for her to do. The subject was real men, and not boyfriends. An escort can have 100 boyfriends, but who gives a shit. That wasn't the subject.

People like you can not distinguish the difference between a boyfriend and true love with a real man. You think they are the same thing, and they are not. A boyfriend is a guy you like a lot, are good friends with, enjoy spending time with, and fuck til the end of time. But there is obviously no one on one commitment. And that is great. But a real man is looking for a true love relationship with just one person, and expects them to be the same way.

How can any of you say they are truly in love with the one man in her life, then go out that night and get paid to fuck and suck strange men's dicks. I am not knocking the profession. I have no problems with escorting in any way. This is just about the argument of what true love is. True love is the monogamous love and trust that two people share. This is impossible when you fuck a hundred guys a year for cash. The most an active escort can expect is good and even close friendship type relationships, boyfriends, and lots of wonderful shared lust. And that is great as long as that is OK for both of you. Enjoy yourself, and have a happy life. But a true love monogamous relationship is not possible for an escort. The terms "Monogamous" and "Escort" are opposite meanings, and can not be used to describe the same thing in one sentence.

By the way, I am not forcing my beliefs on anyone. YOU are the one who is TELLING people they are wrong and your way is the only right. I am just stating my opinion like most people do here. Get over yourself.



Ineeda sm was being nice, he usually is :) and told me that real men want someone with my attitude (which might be true but how many real men are there dating trannies) lol !

But she somehow became furious that he made me a compliment and started posting pics of her boyfriend, as if its a competition....

Real men date Trannies all the time. A real man knows how to treat a woman no matter what is between her lovely legs. He is still a real man. And there are many real men in fantastic one on one true love relationships with TG's.

Thank you Birgitta. I am always nice to those like yourself, that treat me with respect. I complimented you because you are smart enough to reason the differences with intelligence. A few in this thread can not do that, so they go into attack mode. You Understand what true love is and can express your thoughts without insulting other people for how they feel.

Amber posted that pic to prove she had a boyfriend, which nobody gives a shit about. It was her way of proving she could find a real man and be in true love. But she failed in that attempt because she doesn't know the difference between the two or what was actually being discussed.

Most of the girls I have met on HungAngels are very nice people. They treat me with respect and we have fun in the threads. They know who they are, and how much I appreciate them. BUT! There are a handfull of snob TG's that feel the need to impress what they think is their vast audience by insulting good people, because it boosts their egos. They think their fans are sitting back and applauding them for being so witty and charming. But all they are doing is making asses of themselves, and they are too stupid to realize it.

Thanks again Birgitta, you are a rare jewel.

[needsum]

Why don't you actually see if you can stack up enough of those roses to even call. And then, grow your daydreaming balls big enough to act on it. If and when you show up, you MIGHT get taken seriously. How does that sound? lol

Sounds like a date to me! lmao! :fuckin:

[fred41]

What makes you think the Avatar is me?

Because you more or less admitted that on one of your first few threads.

[amberskyi]

What makes you think the Avatar is me? Or was that your desperate last ditch way of insulting me because you are just an arrogant bitch, and get off on it?

Anyway, I never said Amber was full of shit and had no BF. That is how Amber's self centered attitude took it, and because she was confronted, she had to prove that she could have a boyfriend. But she didn't prove that it is real true love. That would be impossible for her to do. The subject was real men, and not boyfriends. An escort can have 100 boyfriends, but who gives a shit. That wasn't the subject.

People like you can not distinguish the difference between a boyfriend and true love with a real man. You think they are the same thing, and they are not. A boyfriend is a guy you like a lot, are good friends with, enjoy spending time with, and fuck til the end of time. But there is obviously no one on one commitment. And that is great. But a real man is looking for a true love relationship with just one person, and expects them to be the same way.

How can any of you say they are truly in love with the one man in her life, then go out that night and get paid to fuck and suck strange men's dicks. I am not knocking the profession. I have no problems with escorting in any way. This is just about the argument of what true love is. True love is the monogamous love and trust that two people share. This is impossible when you fuck a hundred guys a year for cash. The most an active escort can expect is good and even close friendship type relationships, boyfriends, and lots of wonderful shared lust. And that is great as long as that is OK for both of you. Enjoy yourself, and have a happy life. But a true love monogamous relationship is not possible for an escort. The terms "Monogamous" and "Escort" are opposite meanings, and can not be used to describe the same thing in one sentence.

By the way, I am not forcing my beliefs on anyone. YOU are the one who is TELLING people they are wrong and your way is the only right. I am just stating my opinion like most people do here. Get over yourself.



Real men date Trannies all the time. A real man knows how to treat a woman no matter what is between her lovely legs. He is still a real man. And there are many real men in fantastic one on one true love relationships with TG's.

Thank you Birgitta. I am always nice to those like yourself, that treat me with respect. I complimented you because you are smart enough to reason the differences with intelligence. A few in this thread can not do that, so they go into attack mode. You Understand what true love is and can express your thoughts without insulting other people for how they feel.

Amber posted that pic to prove she had a boyfriend, which nobody gives a shit about. It was her way of proving she could find a real man and be in true love. But she failed in that attempt because she doesn't know the difference between the two or what was actually being discussed.

Most of the girls I have met on HungAngels are very nice people. They treat me with respect and we have fun in the threads. They know who they are, and how much I appreciate them. BUT! There are a handfull of snob TG's that feel the need to impress what they think is their vast audience by insulting good people, because it boosts their egos. They think their fans are sitting back and applauding them for being so witty and charming. But all they are doing is making asses of themselves, and they are too stupid to realize it.

Thanks again Birgitta, you are a rare jewel.

LMAOOOO.im form new york,here we learn to ignore the crazies and not arguing with them.
**keeps head down and slow backs away from the smelly crazy man**

[Nicole Dupre]

LMAOOOO.im form new york,here we learn to ignore the crazies and not arguing with them.
**keeps head down and slow backs away from the smelly crazy man**
I just saw what he said in your post, because I just had to put Romeo on ignore. lol

This guy's such an amateur passive/aggressive dork, it's hilarious. A "handful of snobs", and anyone who's not retarded, think he's living in a masturbatory dream world, and full of shit to boot. lol

[mealticket]

this is just my personal experiences and I can not speak of all escorts but from the girls that I know that escort they do rationalize what they do, like one I knew said "oh well I only top them and I let only my boyfriends top me"....the ones i knew seemed to have a emotional detachment from what a real relationship, they were used as sex toys and thus the romanticism of sex seemed to be lost on them. I knew a friend for years who was an escort, we never met in person, i could not date her cuz she escorted...she came into my town for "work" and we decided to meet for a casual dinner, I went to her hotel room and without notice she took off all her clothes and got down to her underwear and rubbed herself against me....It just seemed so weird and I could not even be aroused cuz there was no spark no build up of anything, it was a friendly dinner that turned into an awkward seduction that basically made me feel like a client. She seemed to not know how "real" relationships build up...she was a sweet girl but the her concepts of relationships, sex, love etc had been warped by years of escorting. Maybe some girls do not have their ideas/thinking warped by escorting but I think it would be a tough thing to do.

[Silcc69]

It's soo good to have Nicole back.

[Birgitta]

I just saw what he said in your post, because I just had to put Romeo on ignore. lol

This guy's such an amateur passive/aggressive dork, it's hilarious. A "handful of snobs", and anyone who's not retarded, think he's living in a masturbatory dream world, and full of shit to boot. lol

Ey be carefull, anyone that defends me in discussions i defend like a lioness...
Up for the challange Nicole ? Lol

What people forget is that most of us girls dont grow up with the promise of 'true love'
You really have to teach us girls and show us what thats about or we wont believe you xxx

[Nicole Dupre]

Ey be carefull, anyone that defends me in discussions i defend like a lioness...
Up for the challange Nicole ? Lol

What people forget is that most of us girls dont grow up with the promise of 'true love'
You really have to teach us girls and show us what thats about or we wont believe you xxx
So he gets a free pass on every shit-stirring thing he says, simply because you two cyber-flirt? If you're actually serious, that's sad. Why am I being "challenged" for stating the obvious?

Why should some guy, who was just caught lying btw, get to tear down a girl's relationship? How does he know what works for anyone else? He's obviously intimidated by her happiness, and he's antagonizing her. I think that's pretty shitty. if he thinks he's so sure of himself, and is so shocked the thread's still going, why is he still going on about this?

He's a dork. Sorry.

[SFTB]

I would start by saying everyone deserves a shot at love. But having been in such a relationship, all I can say is its a real hard road to travel if you really love her.

[Birgitta]

I would start by saying everyone deserves a shot at love. But having been in such a relationship, all I can say is its a real hard road to travel if you really love her.

Thats why i think i-need-a has a point...
There are always exceptions but i dont believe most guys that 'really' love a girl, will be able to stand that she is an escort...

[toopretty]

only a desperate, beta male would date an escort... actually only a desperate beta male would hire an escort in the first place...

[BellaBellucci]

actually only a desperate beta male would hire an escort in the first place...

You really believe that? That sounds an awful lot like a psychological projection to me. You're clearly discarding all of the type-A gentlemen that don't have time to devote to dating and find hiring escorts simpler than relationships and faster than chasing 'civilians.' To me it sounds like you're jealous that alphas can not only afford escorts because they excel at their jobs, but that they can also justify hiring them for the same reason.

But that's just my educated 2 cents.

~BB~

[Birgitta]

You really believe that? That sounds an awful lot like a psychological projection to me. You're clearly discarding all of the type-A gentlemen that don't have time to devote to dating and find hiring escorts simpler than relationships and faster than chasing 'civilians.' To me it sounds like you're jealous that alphas can not only afford escorts because they excel at their jobs, but that they can also justify hiring them for the same reason.

But that's just my educated 2 cents.

~BB~

I dont think a lot of men enjoy sex when they paid for it...not because of the money, but for psychological/emotional reasons...

The sex and relationships you seem to be talking about sound very cold and shallow to me...also not feminine at all...but thats nothing new lol

[BellaBellucci]

I dont think a lot of men enjoy sex when they paid for it...not because of the money, but for psychological/emotional reasons...

The sex and relationships you seem to be talking about sound very cold and shallow to me...also not feminine at all...but thats nothing new lol

That I seem to be talking about? My comment was in response to a post that said that all escort clients were beta males. It had nothing to do with emotions, desires, or a lack of (often inappropriate IMO) attachment to sex workers on the part of clients. Your comment has nothing to do with what I'm talking about... 'but that's nothing new.' :lol:

Although I will say that it's the beta males that get all clingy and would-be co-dependent. So in your opinion, it's a healthy 'feminine' behavior for an escort to let that occur with someone with whom she has a professional relationship? Wow!

~BB~

[Birgitta]

That I seem to be talking about? My comment was in response to a post that said that all escort clients were beta males. It had nothing to do with emotions, desires, or a lack of (often inappropriate IMO) attachment to sex workers on the part of clients. Your comment has nothing to do with what I'm talking about... 'but that's nothing new.' :lol:

~BB~

Bella !!!!!!
Im telling you this now and i wont say it again...you should let me take from your text whatever i like to be upset about and rant 8 pages long about it, no matter if its on or off topic, get it ?

:)

[Birgitta]

To degrade love to sex lust money is a sad affair in my eyes...

You can have it all if you are in a loving relationship and you will feel good about yourself too..

[BellaBellucci]

Bella !!!!!!
Im telling you this now and i wont say it again...you should let me take from your text whatever i like to be upset about and rant 8 pages long about it, no matter if its on or off topic, get it ?

:)

Maybe I should.

... but maybe I shouldn't. :lol:

~BB~

[Birgitta]

Hello...

So I typically don't like to get involved in these topics because its Personal and as a Provider somethings (Opinions, Feelings, Emotions) Should stay separate...

However a question I want to raise to the Ladies is...Would you date a Gentlemen that as compensated you for a "Date"?
Think about the saying...You lose him how you got him...


XX

A*


Enjoying L.A.

Thats the whole point...if he can 'buy' love, then he wont be after the love i got to offer in the first place, and he then should just buy a pretty face and companionship...and not go after me...

[Nicole Dupre]

I dont think a lot of men enjoy sex when they paid for it...not because of the money, but for psychological/emotional reasons...

They could have fooled me. lol


The sex and relationships you seem to be talking about sound very cold and shallow to me...also not feminine at all...but thats nothing new What does NSA casual sex have to do with femininity? That's whack.

[Birgitta]

They could have fooled me. lol

What does NSA casual sex have to do with femininity? That's whack.

my response to bella's description of the succesfull alpha male, rich and buying himself love coz its too much work for him to find a normal girlfriend...

And casual sex has to do with masulinity vs femininity...that is, when you believe men and woman actually excist...

[BellaBellucci]

my response to bella's description of the succesfull alpha male, rich and buying himself love coz its too much work for him to find a normal girlfriend...

Actually I said quite the opposite. It's the alphas that can handle just sex and the betas that are the wimpy, whiny, co-dependents, and they BOTH call escorts. The former for sex and the latter for 'love.' Take particular notice of the quotation marks.

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Men don't think they're buying "love". Don't underestimate them. ;-)

Love him or hate him; Charlie Sheen wasn't kidding when he said he pays them to go away. :-)

[Birgitta]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/men-like-casual-sex-more-than-women-ndash-scientific-fact-854323.html

[Birgitta]

Men don't think they're buying "love". Don't underestimate them. ;-)

Love him or hate him; Charlie Sheen wasn't kidding when he said he pays them to go away. :-)

Lets just say they buy the kind of" love" they are satisfied with :)

[Nicole Dupre]

Men and women clearly exist, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

And, if anything, escorts are generally more feminine. That's why married men stray from their wives so often. They love their wives, perhaps. But they often find their wines too frumpy and matronly after a while.

[hippifried]

I don't know why so many like to project social feminine emotions on guys. Somehow, I don't think the Harlequin Romance priorities work in this situation.

[Nicole Dupre]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/men-like-casual-sex-more-than-women-ndash-scientific-fact-854323.html
They have more testosterone. Of course they're more obsessed with fucking. lol

I get the sense you're not getting laid as often as you'd like, and that you resent sexworkers because of it.

But I have a question. If you're not a sexworker, and you think we're "less feminine" if we enjoy sex; what's the motivation for spending so much time on a forum that celebrates them? Nuns don't hang out in strip clubs. And, if they did, I doubt they'd be seeking stimulating conversation. They'd be there to judge and pontificate, most likely.

[Nicole Dupre]

Lets just say they buy the kind of" love" they are satisfied with :)
Again, I don't think they see escorts for love. That's like saying a man loves his dog, but eats animals because he's somehow seeking companionship with a pet. lol

[MdR Dave]

They'd be there to judge and pontificate, most likely.

wait, ineeda is a nun?

[Birgitta]

They have more testosterone. Of course they're more obsessed with fucking. lol

I get the sense you're not getting laid as often as you'd like, and that you resent sexworkers because of it.

But I have a question. If you're not a sexworker, and you think we're "less feminine" if we enjoy sex; what's the motivation for spending so much time on a forum that celebrates them? Nuns don't hang out in strip clubs. And, if they did, I doubt they'd be seeking stimulating conversation. They'd be there to judge and pontificate, most likely.

You will be suprised how many sex workers become nuns lol !
Im not sexually frustrated at all at this moment (havent been happier),
And i dont look down on escorts too...
I dont think sex workers are less feminine bur its generally true that when it comes to love woman tend to get emotional and emotionally involved thats all

[Birgitta]

Men and women clearly exist, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

And, if anything, escorts are generally more feminine. That's why married men stray from their wives so often. They love their wives, perhaps. But they often find their wines too frumpy and matronly after a while.

You are purely talking about looks here....
That IS a masculine perspective...

They might look feminine, does not mean they ARE feminine

[fred41]

I dont think sex workers are less feminine bur its generally true that when it comes to love woman tend to get emotional and emotionally involved thats all

the above sentence is more logical if you substitute the word "love" with "sex"....or at least "making love".

I think you often confuse the words "love" and "sex" ...I don't know if it's a language barrier ...or you honestly believe that you can't have sex without love...which is completely unrealistic.


Also, that study you quoted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/men-like-casual-sex-more-than-women-ndash-scientific-fact-854323.html

...still shows MORE than 50% of the women answered being fine with one night stands , that's lower than the men...but still greater than 50% (...more than half)...so you can't say that having sex flings isn't "feminine'.

[Nicole Dupre]

You are purely talking about looks here....
That IS a masculine perspective...

They might look feminine, does not mean they ARE feminineNo I'm not. And no it's not. Women who think, behave, and look more feminine ARE more feminine. Are you saying that super models are less feminine too, simply because men want to fuck them?

I'm talking about the whole package. You're telling me that a fat frumpy housewife who sits at home eating chips is more feminine than the escorts her husbands cheat on her with? Then why isn't he home, fucking her?

How many escorts do you know well enough to make that judgment call? What are you basing it on?

[Ineeda SM]

Because you more or less admitted that on one of your first few threads.

Nope you are wrong Fred. I never admitted anything. I never said that my avatar was me. You didn't read the post correctly. Please find that post and repost it here. Prove me wrong.

I was asked if my avatar was me and the asking party laughed to be insulting. All I said was, "And what if it is". I wanted to bait her into a corner with her senseless response, which never happened. Besides, my avatar has changed twice since that discussion.

The dimwitted person in this thread that complained about my avatar just assumed it was me, and decided to use it to insult me. Just shows how stupid it is to ass/u/me.

[tsdvdman]

Nope you are wrong Fred. I never admitted anything. I never said that my avatar was me. You didn't read the post correctly. Please find that post and repost it here. Prove me wrong.

I was asked if my avatar was me and the asking party laughed to be insulting. All I said was, "And what if it is". I wanted to bait her into a corner with her senseless response, which never happened. Besides, my avatar has changed twice since that discussion.

The dimwitted person in this thread that complained about my avatar just assumed it was me, and decided to use it to insult me. Just shows how stupid it is to ass/u/me.
guess the real question now isn't whether it's you or not,,but why in hell would you use that as an avatar at all..it's gross!

[runningdownthatdream]

guess the real question now isn't whether it's you or not,,but why in hell would you use that as an avatar at all..it's gross!

Oh I guess you missed when the subtitle to his avatar was: my mouth is my pussy! Now that, that was gross.............

[Ineeda SM]

guess the real question now isn't whether it's you or not,,but why in hell would you use that as an avatar at all..it's gross!

Please explain. What is gross about a well trimmed muscular guy showing off a nice butt and dick? There are a few dozen avatars on here that are a whole lot worse, but you aren't complaining to them.

[Ineeda SM]

Oh I guess you missed when the subtitle to his avatar was: my mouth is my pussy! Now that, that was gross.............

I had a lot of PM's complimenting it because they understood the meaning. They though it was funny. But if you missed the point behind that phrase, then you are too stupid to waste time arguing with.

[runningdownthatdream]

I had a lot of PM's complimenting it because they understood the meaning. They though it was funny. But if you missed the point behind that phrase, then you are too stupid to waste time arguing with.

Really? Now that you're an oral perfectionist I don't think it's so difficult to get what you were implying. Seems like you have a fixation with putting things into your mouth. Regardless, that previous slogan of yours was disgusting - think about it.

[Ineeda SM]

Really? Now that you're an oral perfectionist I don't think it's so difficult to get what you were implying. Seems like you have a fixation with putting things into your mouth. Regardless, that previous slogan of yours was disgusting - think about it.

No not "THINGS". I love putting "COCKS" into my mouth. Hey I love oral sex, and I am really fucking good at it. If you think that is just a "Fixation", you may be on the wrong website, my friend.

[fred41]

Nope you are wrong Fred. I never admitted anything. I never said that my avatar was me. You didn't read the post correctly. Please find that post and repost it here. Prove me wrong.

I was asked if my avatar was me and the asking party laughed to be insulting. All I said was, "And what if it is". I wanted to bait her into a corner with her senseless response, which never happened. Besides, my avatar has changed twice since that discussion.

The dimwitted person in this thread that complained about my avatar just assumed it was me, and decided to use it to insult me. Just shows how stupid it is to ass/u/me.

I don't care what avatar you are using...but you are being less than sincere...here is the thread : http://hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=54648&highlight=Ineeda

You said "what if it is?" to me....but when Alyssa asked (the last page of the thread)...you said it was you when you were heavier...and one of the latest avatars is what you look like now.
The avatars (including the earlier heavier one) are clearly all the same person...the logical sequence of avatars and your answers to them all heavily suggest that this is you...you clearly said so to Alyssa...and it didn't sound like a lie.

[Birgitta]

No I'm not. And no it's not. Women who think, behave, and look more feminine ARE more feminine. Are you saying that super models are less feminine too, simply because men want to fuck them?

I'm talking about the whole package. You're telling me that a fat frumpy housewife who sits at home eating chips is more feminine than the escorts her husbands cheat on her with? Then why isn't he home, fucking her?

How many escorts do you know well enough to make that judgment call? What are you basing it on?

why doesnt he start a relationship with you, why does he have a relationship with the "fat frumpy housewife" ?

and does it make you feel better about yourself to piss on woman that in your eyes dont look pretty enough to be loved...?

[fred41]

why doesnt he start a relationship with you, why does he have a relationship with the "fat frumpy housewife" ?

and does it make you feel better about yourself to piss on woman that in your eyes dont look pretty enough to be loved...?

Wellllllll there is always the possibility that he is also fat and frumpy ..and doesn't have a chance in hell with the escort unless he's paying. He's stuck with fat and frumpy...or he loves being with her...but hates having sex with her.

There are many, many possibilities.

[Birgitta]

Pffffff

[amberskyi]

Really? Now that you're an oral perfectionist I don't think it's so difficult to get what you were implying. Seems like you have a fixation with putting things into your mouth. Regardless, that previous slogan of yours was disgusting - think about it.

you didnt know? real men have pussies.......*snickers*

[Nicole Dupre]

why doesnt he start a relationship with you, why does he have a relationship with the "fat frumpy housewife" ?

and does it make you feel better about yourself to piss on woman that in your eyes dont look pretty enough to be loved...?

Piss on what woman? Escorts "feel better" getting paid. You want them to feel guilty? You're the one saying a sexworker isn't as feminine because men actually find her sexy enough to fuck. lol Why do they need to pity some fat slob, stuffing her face, who can't keep a man satisfied? I'll add fat to the list of things I'm guessing about you btw. lol

And what do I know or care why they got married? Maybe he knocked her up when he was drunk. Maybe he wanted to suck dicks, and thought getting married would make it seem less suspicious. That's his business. I don't care if it was a shotgun wedding. Dont expect me to play Dr Phil over their mistakes. I'm about as emotionally invested in their lives as the high school kid selling Playboy magazine at 7-11. You're the one worried about their marriage motivations. Not me. lol

Btw, you didn't answer my question about why you're here if you have so much contempt for sexworkers. ;-)

You're very easy to see through. lol

[hippifried]

wait, ineeda is a nun?
What? You didn't know?

[Birgitta]

Piss on what woman? Escorts "feel better" getting paid. You want them to feel guilty? You're the one saying a sexworker isn't as feminine because men actually find her sexy enough to fuck. lol Why do they need to pity some fat slob, stuffing her face, who can't keep a man satisfied? I'll add fat to the list of things I'm guessing about you btw. lol

And what do I know or care why they got married? Maybe he knocked her up when he was drunk. Maybe he wanted to suck dicks, and thought getting married would make it seem less suspicious. That's his business. I don't care if it was a shotgun wedding. Dont expect me to play Dr Phil over their mistakes. I'm about as emotionally invested in their lives as the high school kid selling Playboy magazine at 7-11. You're the one worried about their marriage motivations. Not me. lol

Btw, you didn't answer my question about why you're here if you have so much contempt for sexworkers. ;-)

You're very easy to see through. lol

Im very easy to see through by some people...i guess !
But obviously not by you, and im not going to repeat myself again that i have nothing against escort, i simply dont think they are the superior being you portrey yourself to be..
You live in a 1 dimensional world babe, so much even that your "i know it all attitude" fools you into believing im fat, ugly, sexually frustrated, you name it...all things which im not...at least, if im ugly, you are ugly too lol

End of discussion, too much airheaded ! Just like most other girls here

[Birgitta]

No I'm not. And no it's not. Women who think, behave, and look more feminine ARE more feminine. Are you saying that super models are less feminine too, simply because men want to fuck them?

I'm talking about the whole package. You're telling me that a fat frumpy housewife who sits at home eating chips is more feminine than the escorts her husbands cheat on her with? Then why isn't he home, fucking her?

How many escorts do you know well enough to make that judgment call? What are you basing it on?

The point is nicole, you dont think feminine...
There are feminine escorts oyes, but you dont seem to be one of them

[Nicole Dupre]

Im very easy to see through by some people...i guess !
But obviously not by you, and im not going to repeat myself again that i have nothing against escort, i simply dont think they are the superior being you portrey yourself to be..
You live in a 1 dimensional world babe, so much even that your "i know it all attitude" fools you into believing im fat, ugly, sexually frustrated, you name it...all things which im not...at least, if im ugly, you are ugly too lol

End of discussion, too much airheaded ! Just like most other girls here
Where did I say superior? Why are you so intimidated? What's wrong with you?

Yeah, that's it, honey. Shoot your mouth off like a fool, and pretend to be on some intellectual and moral high ground.

Maybe if you got laid, joined in on "all the fun", and didn't paint the world to be as 1-dimensional as your limited capacity to see it, you'd have something better to do than take some buns up 'tard, lying on his dick and belly, under your wing.

Keep sucking up those scraps of false validation from losers like him, and see where that get you in life.

[Nicole Dupre]

The point is nicole, you dont think feminine...
There are feminine escorts oyes, but you dont seem to be one of them
I'll file that under "W" for 'who gives a shit what some frigid bitch, who's too scared to show her face, and who has a chip on her shoulder, thinks'.

[Nicole Dupre]

Also for "WADDLE", which is what you probably do on your your way to a lonely bed that only gets slept in. :party:

[Nicole Dupre]

‪Joan Crawford - The Women confrontation!‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4XTeh6tjIs)

[Birgitta]

Whatever Nicole !

Im not intellectual, i just dont live in a world i made up for myself, and try to keep an eye on the facts

[dderek123]

Birgitta is gettin' Dupreed.

[Nicole Dupre]

Whatever Nicole !

Im not intellectual, i just dont live in a world i made up for myself, and try to keep an eye on the facts
Keep your eye on this ~> You're living a masochistic existence of being on a porn forum, where you have contempt for the women who keep the lights on. Why don't you just admit that you're jealous of us, and too embarrassed to show your face? I bet you look like Ericka.

[Nicole Dupre]

‪Little Britain - Emily Howard at the Swimming Pool‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INj6HPuKJnk)

[Prospero]

Why don't you girls quit the bitchin' ?

[Birgitta]

Keep your eye on this ~> You're living a masochistic existence of being on a porn forum, where you have contempt for the women who keep the lights on. Why don't you just admit that you're jealous of us, and too embarrassed to show your face? I bet you look like Ericka.

No you have comtempt for woman...you transitioned from raging gay queen gender bender to a top that prostitutes herself...where in this story does a life as a woman enter, or even an experience that you could compare with some of them outside of prostitution...

And everyone may know im a bearded seaman with a bra, my face is not my financial income and also not something i take any pride in

[Birgitta]

Why don't you girls quit the bitchin' ?

Wanne join in ? :} xxx

[Nicole Dupre]

No you have comtempt for woman...you transitioned from raging gay queen gender bender to a top that prostitutes herself...where in this story does a life as a woman enter, or even an experience that you could compare with some of them outside of prostitution...

And everyone may know im a bearded seaman with a bra, my face is not my financial income and also not something i take any pride in
No. I'm a content transsexual, and I simply don't buy your bullshit. I can assure you that many transsexuals have to get past the gay label that the world places on us.

You're a malcontent, who's opened up a can of worms for themself, and who's clearly out of their element.

Now grace us with a photo, and stop pretending to be above it all. Because no one believes you, except your precious asskissing lap dog, the passive aggressive know-it-all lying on his belly.

[Birgitta]

Did i miss something?

You feel better then the housewives of the guys asking for your masculine services, while believing you are More feminine...lol !

im not above it all
And to be ts and be content is a contradiction in terms

[Nicole Dupre]

Did i miss something?

You feel better then the housewives of the guys asking for your masculine services, while believing you are More feminine...lol !

im not above it all
And to be ts and be content is a contradiction in terms

You missed more than "something".

But you do admit to being a malcontent? Well thank you for proving my point. And I hate to burst your grandiose bubble here, but you don't speak for all of us. You simply want to project your misery onto the women of this forum, to make yourself feel better.

Well, my self-admittedly angry friend, my life is "as a woman" is actually very conventional. Aside from earning a nice living in the world's oldest profession, I'm educated, have a P/T side business where I deal with a wide variety of professionals, have great friends (my two best friends are GGs, who I've known since I was 15, and both are medical professionals, who are as close as blood sisters), have a great relationship with my family, and I never get clocked.

Sorry your transition didn't bring you contentment. Mine did.

[saintsinner]

lucky enough to have dated Londons finest!!! hard finding the ones with proper jobs but they are out there.

Being 23 at the time and good looking helped............ GOD BLESS BIRCHPLACE!!!

best to date being Giovanna di Pietro :) ..... out standing. Before her facial surgery so must be even better in the flesh now.

Id say they are able to have relationships as they are very skilled at putting there work at the back of there minds! they hate escorting but love the easy money! so its a vicious circle and they then cant leave it. they hate it with a passion and over time i believe they start to hate men in a way as they will only be used as a sex object and not fully loved by a man. SImple as that. Fully loved as in a guy being able to fully give him self and guys like the option of kids also which is a wee problem.

Ts especially escorts want a guy and the hole nine yards badly!! they want everything to feel slightly normal and to escape their "day" job. If anyone thinks a ts likes being an escort and seeing you (the customer) you are so wrong its crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the damage mentally which ts escorts suffer is deep.

[Birgitta]

You missed more than "something".

But you do admit to being a malcontent? Well thank you for proving my point. And I hate to burst your grandiose bubble here, but you don't speak for all of us. You simply want to project your misery onto the women of this forum, to make yourself feel better.

Well, my self-admittedly angry friend, my life is "as a woman" is actually very conventional. Aside from earning a nice living in the world's oldest profession, I'm educated, have a P/T side business where I deal with a wide variety of professionals, have great friends (my two best friends are GGs, who I've known since I was 15, and both are medical professionals, who are as close as blood sisters), have a great relationship with my family, and I never get clocked.

Sorry your transition didn't bring you contentment. Mine did.

Is it me or are you now trying to compete with me ?

Me not agreeing with you,
Makes u think im ugly, sexually frustrated, unhappy etc
All things which im not...i am clockable by some, not by many, and you are too, or else you are just lying to yourself,
Yes its true, i rather be a real girl instead of a ts..
So im not happy being a ts, but its the way it is and i enjoy my life nevertheless,
And yeah its true, im different then most ts, but do not regard myself as more woman, or more feminine, but i can understand why you would think that...im just verry rational about being what i am, how i look and behavior, almost deadly rational, :)

And i like "i,need,a" coz he has shown more sensitivity then most here :p

[BellaBellucci]

Is it me or are you now trying to compete with me ?

Me not agreeing with you,
Makes u think im ugly, sexually frustrated, unhappy etc
All things which im not...i am clockable by some, not by many, and you are too, or else you are just lying to yourself,
Yes its true, i rather be a real girl instead of a ts..
So im not happy being a ts, but its the way it is and i enjoy my life nevertheless,
And yeah its true, im different then most ts, but do not regard myself as more woman, or more feminine, but i can understand why you would think that...im just verry rational about being what i am, how i look and behavior, almost deadly rational, :)

And i like "i,need,a" coz he has shown more sensitivity then most here :p

Oh stop. You're obviously miserable. And even though you've said you were leaving countless times, you're still here stirring shit. On the one hand, I admire your tenacity and respect your right to free speech. On the other hand, I can't help but notice how co-dependent you look in your inability to actually leave us. For your own mental health, I suggest a little break.

Oh, and I'm sick of this 'everybody is clockable' shit. The fact that transsexuals are starting to become mainstream means that even bigger GG's or those with slightly masculine featues are being 'clocked' these days (I blame Maury). So if Nicole says she hasn't been 'clocked,' then she hasn't. Unless someone believes that someone else is trans to the point that they actually act on it, the trans person is not being 'clocked.' Merely being questioned is not being 'clocked,' and so many girls here need to kill that shit.

'Passing' means having the ability to live life either entirely undetectably or close enough that it doesn't interfere with social functioning. Remember that. Nobody's perfectly feminine, not even GG's.

~BB~

[Birgitta]

Oh stop. You're obviously miserable. And even though you've said you were leaving countless times, you're still here stirring shit. On the one hand, I admire your tenacity and respect your right to free speech. On the other hand, I can't help but notice how co-dependent you look in your inability to actually leave us. For your own mental health, I suggest a little break.

Oh, and I'm sick of this 'everybody is clockable' shit. The fact that transsexuals are starting to become mainstream means that even bigger GG's or those with slightly masculine featues are being 'clocked' these days (I blame Maury). So if Nicole says she hasn't been 'clocked,' then she hasn't. Unless someone believes that someone else is trans to the point that they actually act on it, the trans person is not being 'clocked.' Merely being questioned is not being 'clocked,' and so many girls here need to kill that shit.

'Passing' means having the ability to live life either entirely undetectably or close enough that it doesn't interfere with social functioning. Remember that. Nobody's perfectly feminine, not even GG's.

~BB~

Well maybe bella, maybe.
But you know, i do find being attractive (as in nice to look at and feminine) more important then being unclockable,
And besides everything, i am very expressive here about how i feel and i talk about the bad stuff...the good stuff is too personal,...at least thats how i feel.
Still you can be tough, and nicole, or amber etc...
Dont forget that we are not all alike, and thats whats working for you, does not have to work for another...everybody has different needs and wants different things in life.

And you and libby i find the nicest girls around these parts, libby becausr she just lets me rage and is always kind, and you coz i know you are someone i will be able to reason with irl, and you have a heart...
intuition...

Nicole seems pretty cool, but it really feels like some of you guys create the world you live in and bend reality according to your needs, so much that you forget to look past it...

Or maybe im just a wicked girl

Oyes and yvonne is the funniest like her too, but where is she ?

You see i can be nice, sorth off lol

[BellaBellucci]

Well maybe bella, maybe.
But you know, i do find being attractive (as in nice to look at and feminine) more important then being unclockable,
And besides everything, i am very expressive here about how i feel and i talk about the bad stuff...the good stuff is too personal,...at least thats how i feel.
Still you can be tough, and nicole, or amber etc...
Dont forget that we are not all alike, and thats whats working for you, does not have to work for another...everybody has different needs and wants different things in life.

And you and libby i find the nicest girls around these parts, libby becausr she just lets me rage, and you coz i know you are someone i will be able to reason with irl, and you have a heart...
intuition

Well, thank you. That's nice. But...

http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/strawman-240x300.jpg

~BB~

[dderek123]

Yep the self hate and pity whoring in Birgitta's posts are quite obvious. I wonder if she is actually trying to be a troll or that it just comes naturally because her life sucks so much.

[Birgitta]

Yep the self hate and pity whoring in Birgitta's posts are quite obvious. I wonder if she is actually trying to be a troll or that it just comes naturally because her life sucks so much.

Like i will get any comfort here if i did pity myself lol ! Hahaha !

[Birgitta]

Yep the self hate and pity whoring in Birgitta's posts are quite obvious. I wonder if she is actually trying to be a troll or that it just comes naturally because her life sucks so much.


And if i was into ts and visited here, i would seriously back away from the idea of dating a ts in a serious way, if the tgirls here are to represent tgirls in general...
You have to be crazy masochistic or careless to get involved mr derik "i know it all" u sure you are not just into tgirls coz u want to wear skirts yourself?

[Yvonne183]

Well maybe bella, maybe.
But you know, i do find being attractive (as in nice to look at and feminine) more important then being unclockable,
And besides everything, i am very expressive here about how i feel and i talk about the bad stuff...the good stuff is too personal,...at least thats how i feel.
Still you can be tough, and nicole, or amber etc...
Dont forget that we are not all alike, and thats whats working for you, does not have to work for another...everybody has different needs and wants different things in life.

And you and libby i find the nicest girls around these parts, libby becausr she just lets me rage and is always kind, and you coz i know you are someone i will be able to reason with irl, and you have a heart...
intuition...

Nicole seems pretty cool, but it really feels like some of you guys create the world you live in and bend reality according to your needs, so much that you forget to look past it...

Or maybe im just a wicked girl

Oyes and yvonne is the funniest like her too, but where is she ?

You see i can be nice, sorth off lol

I'm still here,, well I've been evicted from where I was living and am now staying at a friends.

What was the topic of this thread???? Oh yea,, escort relationships. I would not start a relationship with an escort, I don't even know what an escort looks like, are they like bodyguards,, like capos or henchmen?

Also I am a miserable person too, with a miserable life and don't want to add any more miserable people into my life, including an escort, I like being alone.

PS-I kinda don't think this question was directed at me,,,but hey.....

[robertlouis]

Well, thank you. That's nice. But...

http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/strawman-240x300.jpg

~BB~

Could always be worse Birgitta. Strawman is one thing - just imagine if you were called Wickerman..... :dancing:

[Birgitta]

I'm still here,, well I've been evicted from where I was living and am now staying at a friends.

What was the topic of this thread???? Oh yea,, escort relationships. I would not start a relationship with an escort, I don't even know what an escort looks like, are they like bodyguards,, like capos or henchmen?

Also I am a miserable person too, with a miserable life and don't want to add any more miserable people into my life, including an escort, I like being alone.

PS-I kinda don't think this question was directed at me,,,but hey.....

Hihi good for you Yvonne, about not wanting more miserable people in your life. I feel the same, especially not the miserable that dont even know how miserable they feel/are.
I might be miserable in some ways, but i dont feel that way avout my life, its very interesting and sometimes i even think im so lucky i could be ashamed of myself, the bad things arent always just bad if you learn to stay true to yourself...
Glad to hear you have friends to go to...

Really sucks you dont have a place you can call home at the moment, take care.

[Birgitta]

Could always be worse Birgitta. Strawman is one thing - just imagine if you were called Wickerman..... :dancing:

Lol that would be really bad yes !
The wickerman, thats hungangels...
Im just a straw puppet :) catching fire here :)
but i wouldnt mind it if the place burned down, lol
I almost feel like the germaine greer of trannies here lol !
except that i dont objectify and date young men lol

[dderek123]

And if i was into ts and visited here, i would seriously back away from the idea of dating a ts in a serious way, if the tgirls here are to represent tgirls in general...
You have to be crazy masochistic or careless to get involved mr derik "i know it all" u sure you are not just into tgirls coz u want to wear skirts yourself?

You mean if you were not a TS you would not date another TS. Well I guess it's too late for me on that one.

Wearing skirts! Good one! How droll. Not really. Birgitta = Bullshitta

Well I could argue with you more. But what would be the point. You would just continue on your derpfest and lash out at anyone who offers an opinion that differs from yours. Obvious troll.

Cheers


At the risk of being offensive maybe I shouldn't post a picture like I usually do. Nahhh fuck it ...
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1010/self-loathing-the-truth-behind-internet-trolls-demotivational-poster-1288283434.jpg

[Birgitta]

Very tastefull and interesting choice that picture, but what are you doing hanging round here if you have a ts girlfriend or oooh
Are you the type that dates a ts to get acces to her group of ts girlfriends lol !

And btw, hey, i thought you would have liked it, that im a dude ?

[dderek123]

I like to get in discussions from time to time. The last two months have been rather busy for me. My holidays have just started so I thought I would pop in on this thread.

My TS girlfriend has seen this site and skimmed through some of my posts. She's actually a member here and she's a member of a Thai version of this site where she posts regularly. That site is pretty cool tbh. I knew it would be a milestone in our relationship for me to accept her past and for her to accept mine. So I just showed her. I think transparency is the ideal in a close relationship. She basically knows me inside and out. This weekend we plan on getting together with a few members from her site for dinner. Should be fun!

Well it doesn't really matter what I think about your gender. I don't care either way. Oh I see that was another joke! I like dudes in skirts so if you were one I would be glad about that. How clever. Not really.

Put the bag back on your head and take a walk down the street. You might lose a few pounds.

GTG picking up the GF from work so we can go have lunch at our favourite restaurant. Life is good!

[amberskyi]

im just giggling that this thread is still going.arent you a fellow ny resident miss dupre?? you should know not to argue with the crazy. city living 101 lol

p.s your avatar is hott!

[Nicole Dupre]

im just giggling that this thread is still going.arent you a fellow ny resident miss dupre?? you should know not to argue with the crazy. city living 101 lol

p.s your avatar is hott!
I was in Manhattan for the majority of my first year back in the area. But I decided north Jersey was a better fit for me. I'm almost shocked to be saying this, but I actually like NJ now. lol

And thanks. :)

[luvthatranny]

I had a relationship with an escort once.
It was nothing but pain, grief and misery, and you wouldn't believe the money I spent on her.
Last fukkin Ford I ever bought! :shrug

Most leave by the motto C.R.E.A.M....
If they, regardless of sex, color, or creed, is doing it to pay the bills actively, then there is no true hope for a real relationship.
It might be love, but money will win out in the end (that is if they continue to take cash for ass).:yayo:

[luvthatranny]

Meant live by the motto...

[robertlouis]

I had a relationship with an escort once.
It was nothing but pain, grief and misery, and you wouldn't believe the money I spent on her.
Last fukkin Ford I ever bought! :shrug

People still responding to this post!

Listen, for the avoidance of further confusion, here in the UK an Escort is a CAR. Jericho, as is his wont, is taking the piss.

Here's a pic to prove it. And you don't have to thank me for this important public service.


FORD ESCORT

[arnie666]

I was in Manhattan for the majority of my first year back in the area. But I decided north Jersey was a better fit for me. I'm almost shocked to be saying this, but I actually like NJ now. lol

And thanks. :)

Oh look the crazy bitch has been let out the muppet house. :party:

Still pleased to see you back , should liven up the place anyway till you get banned /leave again!!

[MdR Dave]

People still responding to this post!

Listen, for the avoidance of further confusion, here in the UK an Escort is a CAR. Jericho, as is his wont, is taking the piss.

Here's a pic to prove it. And you don't have to thank me for this important public service.


FORD ESCORT

Stateside, too, RL. But here the tuner crowd never really tried to trick them out. They generally stayed stock until they were Found Out Rusting in the Driveway. At which point they were traded in on a Chrysler K car.

[robertlouis]

Stateside, too, RL. But here the tuner crowd never really tried to trick them out. They generally stayed stock until they were Found Out Rusting in the Driveway. At which point they were traded in on a Chrysler K car.

They sold in their hundreds of thousands here. :confused:

Things only improved when Ford replaced it with the Focus, which is a really good as well as good-looking piece of metal.

[Jericho]

Jericho, as is his wont, is taking the piss.


Who...Meeee? :whistle:

[Colin92660]

Yes I would without a second thought. Being transgendered can't be the easiest way to get through life. If being an escort for a period helps, so be it. Don't judge. Love.

[yngnwburbsguy]

I think i actually could, but who knows when really faced with it.