Why isn't there a lot of female to male escorts?

[Ryz]

Isn't it just as expensive for a female to transition to a male. If so why isn't there many that go that route :shrug

[NascarNation]

because nobody wants them.

[Ryz]

because you don't , doesn't mean no one else does . heh

[FreddieGomez]

because nobody wants them.

well....that's how u feel, it's kinda the same way some dudes not into trannie chicks feel....trannie chasers and their hypocrisy are hilarious...ya'll talk mad sit about ftm's but act like everybody's into mtf only because YOU are....your same attitude towards ftm's is the same as alot of 100% heterosexual men towards mtf trannies....

[DW2012]

Its easier for Females to become male, hormones pretty much do all the work. Hard to de-masculinize a person.

[amberskyi]

well....that's how u feel, it's kinda the same way some dudes not into trannie chicks feel....trannie chasers and their hypocrisy are hilarious...ya'll talk mad sit about ftm's but act like everybody's into mtf only because YOU are....your same attitude towards ftm's is the same as alot of 100% heterosexual men towards mtf trannies....

you said something intelligent.im shocked!

[PomonaCA]

well....that's how u feel, it's kinda the same way some dudes not into trannie chicks feel....trannie chasers and their hypocrisy are hilarious...ya'll talk mad sit about ftm's but act like everybody's into mtf only because YOU are....your same attitude towards ftm's is the same as alot of 100% heterosexual men towards mtf trannies....


That some fucktarded logic. If there was a market for it, there'd be more ftm escorts.... actually, is there even ONE ftm escort? LOL I'm sure there is but come on. If the money was there, there would be ftm escorts.

[NascarNation]

well....that's how u feel, it's kinda the same way some dudes not into trannie chicks feel....trannie chasers and their hypocrisy are hilarious...ya'll talk mad sit about ftm's but act like everybody's into mtf only because YOU are....your same attitude towards ftm's is the same as alot of 100% heterosexual men towards mtf trannies....

Arent you being over sensitive today freddie. Could it because everyone dogged your ass out over that other thread you started in here? Maybe you like dudes with beads and a pussy I dont I like what I like and make no apologies for it. FTM's to are a bit creepy to me. Youre here for the same reason the rest of the guys are so put yourself in that group of chasers you arent no different no matter what you say freddie except you just happen to be one of the more annoying

[PomonaCA]

Hard to de-masculinize a person.

Then how do you explain how I emasculate phobun so easily? LOL

[NascarNation]

you said something intelligent.im shocked!

His feelings are hurt because you said you wanted to run him over in that other thread.

[NascarNation]

Then how do you explain how I emasculate phobun so easily? LOL

Didnt you say he was asian? :)

[amberskyi]

Arent you being over sensitive today freddie. Could it because everyone dogged your ass out over that other thread you started in here? Maybe you like dudes with beads and a pussy I dont I like what I like and make no apologies for it. FTM's to are a bit creepy to me. Youre here for the same reason the rest of the guys are so put yourself in that group of chasers you arent no different no matter what you say freddie except you just happen to be one of the more annoying

dude your're a dick.transmen have aright to live theyre lives free of judgement just like i do(a transwoman).just like you also do.

[FreddieGomez]

Arent you being over sensitive today freddie. Could it because everyone dogged your ass out over that other thread you started in here? Maybe you like dudes with beads and a pussy I dont I like what I like and make no apologies for it. FTM's to are a bit creepy to me. Youre here for the same reason the rest of the guys are so put yourself in that group of chasers you arent no different no matter what you say freddie except you just happen to be one of the more annoying

whatever yo...you speak hypocrisy

[PomonaCA]

Didnt you say he was asian? :)


Oh yeah lol.

[Ryz]

Arent you being over sensitive today freddie. Could it because everyone dogged your ass out over that other thread you started in here? Maybe you like dudes with beads and a pussy I dont I like what I like and make no apologies for it. FTM's to are a bit creepy to me. Youre here for the same reason the rest of the guys are so put yourself in that group of chasers you arent no different no matter what you say freddie except you just happen to be one of the more annoying

This is no different than us being into T-Girls. Really ignorant to judge when everyone here is judged by the "straight world"

[NascarNation]

dude your're a dick.transmen have aright to live theyre lives free of judgement just like i do(a transwoman).just like you also do.

And youre an ass. I don't care about transmen and I doubt that more than a handful of guys on this site do.

[amberskyi]

And youre an ass. I don't care about transmen and I doubt that more than a handful of guys on this site do.

your ignorance is astounding but hey what should i expect from someone named nascar? lmao

[NascarNation]

i dont give a fuck about what anybody says to me on no damn trannie forum....i aint the one who looks like an idiot stalking all my posts harassin me in the same fashion every day because they still got a high school mentality.....it's flattering because i feel there's another reason behind it....because a sane humble chick would have let it go after the 1st week not let it go on for 5th months...not go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and keep addin fuel to the fire.....

Freddie you love you some you. you are your own biggest fan creating all these post for attention and when you get the attention you then try to blame it on others stalking you.

[FreddieGomez]

your ignorance is astounding but hey what should i expect from someone named nascar? lmao

some country bumkin

[NascarNation]

your ignorance is astounding but hey what should i expect from someone named nascar? lmao

Yes whatever are you off the clock yet or got more clients to see? lol

[NascarNation]

This is no different than us being into T-Girls. Really ignorant to judge when everyone here is judged by the "straight world"

The market just isnt there for them if it were you would see them out. Whos going to pay to be with them?

[Jackal]

I think that there are less escorts who are men, trans-men or non tg...because straight/bi women can have sex whenever they want and the same with gay/bi men with other men.

[FreddieGomez]

Freddie you love you some you. you are your own biggest fan creating all these post for attention and when you get the attention you then try to blame it on others stalking you.

yeah so i like feelin myself....i probably look better than u....alot of these chaser dudes dislike the younger good lookin dudes because we got the image trannies are attracted to in their personal lives and aint into ya'll other than for your money....

[innocentbychoice]

And youre an ass. I don't care about transmen and I doubt that more than a handful of guys on this site do.

I care, I like men and if a transguy is hot, I'm gonna be attracted. Dude, live and let live, I don't know why some people is so closed minded sometimes, specially someone like you who likes transgirls, and therefore should have some respect for the trans community in general.

Now to answer the OP's question, why isn't there many mtf escorts? I don't think women pay for sex as much as men do, and if they want to pay, I'm guessing they would pick a guy with a dick. And gay men...I don't think gay men pay for sex as much either, simply because finding other gay men who are willing to have sex for free is very easy, and, again, I'm guessing the ones who do pay would like to be with a guy with a dick. Just my opinion though.

[innocentbychoice]

I think that there are less escorts who are men, trans-men or non tg...because straight/bi women can have sex whenever they want and the same with gay/bi men with other men.

Yeah this is pretty much what I said.

[amberskyi]

Yes whatever are you off the clock yet or got more clients to see? lol

im actually not working at the moment.havent for the last month...oh no **gasp** we have personal lives

[PomonaCA]

Now to answer the OP's question, why isn't there many mtf escorts? I don't think women pay for sex as much as men do, and if they want to pay, I'm guessing they would pick a guy with a dick. And gay men...I don't think gay men pay for sex as much either, simply because finding other gay men who are willing to have sex for free is very easy, and, again, I'm guessing the ones who do pay would like to be with a guy with a dick. Just my opinion though.


You answered the question on your own, fucktard. You just said that women want a man with a dick and so do gay men. In other words, neither of those groups want to pay for sex with a pseudo-man.

In other words, there is no market.

[NascarNation]

yeah so i like feelin myself....i probably look better than u....alot of these chaser dudes dislike the younger good lookin dudes because we got the image trannies are attracted to in their personal luves because they aint into ya'll other than for your money....

no you dont look better than me freddie. you are just a short little annoying insecure street punk. dude you make a ass of yourslf everytime you come in here

stupid topics that you start

niggah asked how big my dick was. Well tell us freddie did you show it to him and let him suck you off and fuck you in your ass hole??

I like castarated trannies better than the ones who have thier balls attached,, I guess that was to make yourself seem less gay about sucking a cock with no balls attached.

Im thinking about cheating on my girl? freddie you are nothing but a quck attention whore and a cock loving powerbottom!

[fred41]

I care, I like men and if a transguy is hot, I'm gonna be attracted. Dude, live and let live, I don't why some people is so closed minded sometimes, specially someone like you who likes transgirls, and therefore should have some respect for the trans community in general.

Now to answer the OP's question, why isn't there many mtf escorts? I don't think women pay for sex as much as men do, and if they want to pay, I'm guessing they would pick a guy with a dick. And gay men...I don't think gay men pay for sex as much either, simply because finding other gay men who are willing to have sex for free is very easy, and, again, I'm guessing the ones who do pay would like to be with a guy with a dick. Just my opinion though.

I'd have to agree...seems pretty logical.

[NascarNation]

im actually not working at the moment.havent for the last month...oh no **gasp** we have personal lives

are times really that slow for you amber?????? maybe you should try a change of scenery in a different state? :confused:

[Ryz]

I think that there are less escorts who are men, trans-men or non tg...because straight/bi women can have sex whenever they want and the same with gay/bi men with other men.

There's a a lot of male escorts, so why not

[FreddieGomez]

this dude is a reg using an alias

[Jackal]

There's a a lot of male escorts, so why not


I'm sure there are but I am assuming overall the gg/ts women escorts are a higher number than the man/ts man number.

[NascarNation]

this dude is a reg using an alias

Nope i'm using my reg profile now be quiet you short little bitch Queen! My other profile was banned but I wont tell you who I was.

[amberskyi]

are times really that slow for you amber?????? maybe you should try a change of scenery in a different state? :confused:

nope.theyre just that good.2011 has been blessed so far.plus im actually in the process of transitioning out the industry.

[NascarNation]

this dude is a reg using an alias

By the way whos the white guy in the back ground of your avatar pic? Did he just finish fucking you?

[NascarNation]

nope.theyre just that good.2011 has been blessed so far.plus im actually in the process of transitioning out the industry.

Good for you amber im glad to hear that.

[amberskyi]

You answered the question on your own, fucktard. You just said that women want a man with a dick and so do gay men. In other words, neither of those groups want to pay for sex with a pseudo-man.

In other words, there is no market.

well if theyre pseudo-men than im a pseudo-woman.yet people are more than willing to pay for me hmmm.....
if i met a trans man who was passable and i vibed with him i would totally go for it

[Ryz]

I care, I like men and if a transguy is hot, I'm gonna be attracted. Dude, live and let live, I don't why some people is so closed minded sometimes, specially someone like you who likes transgirls, and therefore should have some respect for the trans community in general.

Now to answer the OP's question, why isn't there many mtf escorts? I don't think women pay for sex as much as men do, and if they want to pay, I'm guessing they would pick a guy with a dick. And gay men...I don't think gay men pay for sex as much either, simply because finding other gay men who are willing to have sex for free is very easy, and, again, I'm guessing the ones who do pay would like to be with a guy with a dick. Just my opinion though.
Was just looking at CL in my area for posts that are searching for f2m; and there is quite a few. If gay men didn't pay for sex I wouldn't have old guys offering money to suck my dick on a few networking sites.

Maybe I'm just asking this question in the wrong place.... Hm

[tatsu1]

you said something intelligent.im shocked!

He's not. He's said "y'all" as if he isn't a "tranny chaser" himself. I love how he acts like by posting here he is involved in some sort of social experiment, removing himself from Those who are attracted to transgendered women. Also, noticed how he "upped his vocab". LOL, again I like the kid because he is QUITE good at trolling... he's also a giant idiot. If he was a bit more intelligent, he could write for encyclopedia dramatica.

[NascarNation]

He's not. He's said "y'all" as if he isn't a "tranny chaser" himself. I love how he acts like by posting here he is involved in some sort of social experiment, removing himself from Those who are attracted to transgendered women. Also, noticed how he "upped his vocab". LOL, again I like the kid because he is QUITE good at trolling... he's also a giant idiot. If he was a bit more intelligent, he could write for encyclopedia dramatica.

Freddie's one of the biggest cock bandits on this site! :)

[Ryz]

Freddie's one of the biggest cock bandits on this site! :)

This topic isn't a "how much we love Freddie" thread. Please make you're own if you're going to continue giving him so much attention

[NascarNation]

This topic isn't a "how much we love Freddie" thread. Please make you're own if you're going to continue giving him so much attention

Is that one of your boyfriends him and Daryl?

[tsdvdman]

are times really that slow for you amber?????? maybe you should try a change of scenery in a different state? :confused:
She just did a hardcore scene a couple days ago. Get that beauty rest baby girl don't abuse that sweet young ass more than you have to. Get paid not played!!

[Ryz]

Is that one of your boyfriends him and Daryl?

The way you're always nagging him I would think you were some sort of ex girlfriend

[Jackal]

Using y'all instead of you is fairly stupid.

[amberskyi]

This topic isn't a "how much we love Freddie" thread. Please make you're own if you're going to continue giving him so much attention

awww...you feeling neglected lol.well i still have love for you papi

[amberskyi]

She just did a hardcore scene a couple days ago. Get that beauty rest baby girl don't abuse that sweet young ass more than you have to. Get paid not played!!

lol.its winter time which means all i basically do is eat and sleep lol

[NascarNation]

The way you're always nagging him I would think you were some sort of ex girlfriend

I'll leave Miss Freddie alone now.

[innocentbychoice]

You answered the question on your own, fucktard. You just said that women want a man with a dick and so do gay men. In other words, neither of those groups want to pay for sex with a pseudo-man.

In other words, there is no market.

Err yeah genius, I just answered the question, I even wrote "now to answer the OP's question" Einstein, what's your point?:confused::confused:

[innocentbychoice]

Was just looking at CL in my area for posts that are searching for f2m; and there is quite a few. If gay men didn't pay for sex I wouldn't have old guys offering money to suck my dick on a few networking sites.

Maybe I'm just asking this question in the wrong place.... Hm

I didn't say "gay men don't pay for sex", I said "gay men don't pay for sex as much".

And well I'm sure it's very common for an old guy, gay or straight, to pay for sex if he wants random sex with a stranger.

[Beaner]

no you dont look better than me freddie. you are just a short little annoying insecure street punk. dude you make a ass of yourslf everytime you come in here

stupid topics that you start

niggah asked how big my dick was. Well tell us freddie did you show it to him and let him suck you off and fuck you in your ass hole??

I like castarated trannies better than the ones who have thier balls attached,, I guess that was to make yourself seem less gay about sucking a cock with no balls attached.

Im thinking about cheating on my girl? freddie you are nothing but a quck attention whore and a cock loving powerbottom!


:):dead::dead-1:

[BeardedOne]

actually, is there even ONE ftm escort?

There aren't a lot of them, but they do appear from time to time. One advertised on Eros DC for quite a while a couple of years back and there is one listed on Rentboy Philadelphia now.

The ones I've seen in the listings were usually under the trans categories so they are aiming for a 'non-traditional' market niche to begin with. The one in Philadelphia is catering to the kink crowd as well.

[Tepres]

this dude is a reg using an alias

I'm pretty sure that trannies make more alts on this forum than dudes do...
Not to say that this couldn't be a dude.

[FreddieGomez]

He's not. He's said "y'all" as if he isn't a "tranny chaser" himself. I love how he acts like by posting here he is involved in some sort of social experiment, removing himself from Those who are attracted to transgendered women. Also, noticed how he "upped his vocab". LOL, again I like the kid because he is QUITE good at trolling... he's also a giant idiot. If he was a bit more intelligent, he could write for encyclopedia dramatica.

why did u request to be my friend if you're talking shit about me?

and i can "up my vocab" because there is a time and a place where "talking" white is right.
I did graduate from high school.

[FreddieGomez]

I'm pretty sure that trannies make more alts on this forum than dudes do...
Not to say that this couldn't be a dude.

im starting to think it is a trannie in disguise.

[lisaparadise]

Isn't it just as expensive for a female to transition to a male. If so why isn't there many that go that route :shrugwhy ryz you still thinking on becoming a female to male?

[lisaparadise]

Arent you being over sensitive today freddie. must be the horomones lol,pretty soon she ll have a beard lol

[blckhaze]

i THINK (not sure so dont shoot me) testosterone is cheaper and easier to obtain legally. And since its fairly standard compared to the plethora of diff hormomes mtf may have to take.
Plus other than maybe a breast reduction/chest suppressor all most ftm ive seen needed were baggier clothes & change in haircut. MTF sometimes need far more expensive physical changes. the almighty dollar is a powerful thing.

[iagodelgado]

Isn't it just as expensive for a female to transition to a male. If so why isn't there many that go that route :shrug
Two thousand plus posts and you haven't worked out the answer?

[Ryz]

awww...you feeling neglected lol.well i still have love for you papi
lol. Not at all. Just might as well change the domain name of this site to freddiegomez.com if everyones going to keep this up. :shrug

why ryz you still thinking on becoming a female to male?

Haha, what?

[Mayrah]

because nobody wants them.


Maybe you like dudes with beads and a pussy I dont I like what I like and make no apologies for it. FTM's to are a bit creepy to me.


And youre an ass. I don't care about transmen and I doubt that more than a handful of guys on this site do.

Why are you on a transsexual forum disrespecting ftm's? :loser:

[TsVanessa69]

yeah so i like feelin myself....i probably look better than u....alot of these chaser dudes dislike the younger good lookin dudes because we got the image trannies are attracted to in their personal lives and aint into ya'll other than for your money....
Nobody like you. You not gettin no tranny ass and you bitter.

[Prospero]

Easier for girls to become males! Erm... they can make false dicks but can they make em work?

[Prospero]

I have never-ever heard of a Female to male TS escort in the UK.

[bte]

And youre an ass. I don't care about transmen and I doubt that more than a handful of guys on this site do.

I care about them. If you ever been with a transman you would love them too.

[Miss Fagina]

Isn't it just as expensive for a female to transition to a male. If so why isn't there many that go that route :shrug

Ftm operation cost more than mtf. Removal of breast tissue (if they are large ones) is a much more complicated than putting a couple gel/saline implants in.

Creating a fully functional penis is impossible with current surgical technology.. so there are a few "best approximation" alternatives that are much more complicated and require more operations than creating a vagina + sensate clitoris does, so the cost is higher. Many ftm don't do the "bottom surgery" because of this.

However, I don't think there is an alternative to FFS (which is what cost the most for mtf's), as in "facial masculinization" surgery procedures. A few maybe puts in implants in chin, and liposuction on checks, perhaps.

On why ftm's don't escort I have to agree with what others said; no market. Women don't need to pay for casual sex. Gay men are usually incredibly dick fixated (yes, there are of course exceptions!).

[PomonaCA]

Err yeah genius, I just answered the question, I even wrote "now to answer the OP's question" Einstein, what's your point?:confused::confused:

You should change your name to idiotbychoice. There's no way you read my response and then asked what my point was...... unless you are choosing to be an idiot, idiotbychoice.

[LittleGuy]

Nobody like you. You not gettin no tranny ass and you bitter.

Haha Vanessa calling somebody bitter

The most negative "acting" person on here

[TsVanessa69]

Haha Vanessa calling somebody bitter

The most negative "acting" person on here
O noticed every comment you have ever posted on this board is a negative comment.
Ever thought of taking a bit of your own advice and kill youself?

[TsVanessa69]

MtF trans people live a totally different lifestyle than we do.
they are less noticed and blend more.
I know quite a few here in Chicago.
They all work normal jobs and are in relationships for the most part with woman who like them and are comfortable with them. A direct opposite from us. We are noticed more and men don;t have the balls to be with us like a woman does with a MtF

[ed_jaxon]

Well said V.

Your movie still on for Friday?

[innocentbychoice]

You should change your name to idiotbychoice. There's no way you read my response and then asked what my point was...... unless you are choosing to be an idiot, idiotbychoice.

You're the guy who can't reply without calling me names, and I'm the idiot? oh the irony lol.

You were like "You just answered the question fucktard!!!" and I was like "err duh, I know, what's your point?" and you can't even answer that. Again, and I'm the idiot? lol.

[PomonaCA]

You're the guy who can't reply without calling me names, and I'm the idiot? oh the irony lol.

You were like "You just answered the question fucktard!!!" and I was like "err duh, I know, what's your point?" and you can't even answer that. Again, and I'm the idiot? lol.

Idiot is a name? Seems more like a description for you.... idiotbychoice.

[innocentbychoice]

Idiot is a name? Seems more like a description for you.... idiotbychoice.

Feel free to you use it Einstein. :kiss:

[Helvis2012]

If there was a market, it would be more common.

[PomonaCA]

Feel free to you use it Einstein. :kiss:

Now "Einstein", that's a name! No really, it's a name! A Jewish name! My name is Jewish as am I, but it is not Einstein. Obviously you see some similarities.

[TsVanessa69]

Well said V.

Your movie still on for Friday?
yep!
5 pm, at Roberto Clemente High School!

[LittleGuy]

O noticed every comment you have ever posted on this board is a negative comment.
Ever thought of taking a bit of your own advice and kill youself?

No need to be angry. Life will get better for you.

[dgs925]

because nobody wants them.


Exactly, if there was a market for them, they'd do it.

[ftmsquirt]

I'm an FTM escort. And YES we're around, and NO it's not that there isn't a market because there is. Transphobia doesn't preclude those who are attracted to transwomen and so the way we seek companions tends to be more discreet. We get our business from word of mouth, referrals, and those who really seek us out know where and how to find us. Because I exclusively cater to cisgender men, my clients are of all sexual orientations (however most of mine are gay or bi). All incredibly respectful and intelligent men who seek quality companionship.

[phobun]

Isn't it just as expensive for a female to transition to a male. If so why isn't there many that go that route :shrug


Probably because the people who want a male escort want a functional cock.

[CannibalMan]

Probably because the people who want a male escort want a functional cock.
And by that logic, people who want a female escort would want a functional vagina, right? What no one can explain is why there is such a difference in market size between m2f and f2m.

[ftmsquirt]

And if anyone wants to ask me questions, feel free to send me a private message.

[phobun]

And by that logic, people who want a female escort would want a functional vagina, right? What no one can explain is why there is such a difference in market size between m2f and f2m.


People who want a female escort want a functional hole of some kind... mouth, pussy or ass. People want a male escort for functional cock. People want a m2f TG escort either for hole or cock, depending on if they're top or bottom. People don't want f2m escorts because there is no functional cock or pussy.

[robertlouis]

I'm an FTM escort. And YES we're around, and NO it's not that there isn't a market because there is. Transphobia doesn't preclude those who are attracted to transwomen and so the way we seek companions tends to be more discreet. We get our business from word of mouth, referrals, and those who really seek us out know where and how to find us. Because I exclusively cater to cisgender men, my clients are of all sexual orientations (however most of mine are gay or bi). All incredibly respectful and intelligent men who seek quality companionship.

Umm, so maybe we should listen to someone who is ftm, knows that world and speaks sense, instead of using yet another thread to air our own dumb prejudices and fears?

Thanks ftmsquirt for bringing factual experience to bear on this.

[gotchagood]

well....that's how u feel, it's kinda the same way some dudes not into trannie chicks feel....trannie chasers and their hypocrisy are hilarious...ya'll talk mad sit about ftm's but act like everybody's into mtf only because YOU are....your same attitude towards ftm's is the same as alot of 100% heterosexual men towards mtf trannies....
The reason for this is because a ftm represents/displays/have some common "MALE" characteristics eg. Mike Tyson tattoos, mustache, goatee, hairy chest, thicker body hair, little to no head hair, no curves or breast etc. This is a "turnoff" to many guys here who are not gay. I know it sounds weird, but it doesn't matter if there is a "vagina", having a goatee and a hairy chest rubbing against your body (for most guys) is not their idea of a good time!

I've seen a few of your posts and I think you really need to take a step back, find out more about yourself as a "man" or what makes a "man" find out more about "transsexualism" (and I don't mean from a freakin porn site!) then decide if you want to explore this side of life. Ones attraction is just a small part of a larger scale of understanding. Have a great day.

[theone1982]

I assume that the vast majority of FTM transsexuals identify as straight, so they wouldn't be having sex with men. And not a lot of women go to see escorts. Or maybe I'm completely and totally wrong.:)

[tsbrenda]

I see many on the W4W section of CRAIGSLIST


http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ppp?query=++ftm&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=



http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ppp?query=%20%20w4w&srchType=A


http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/m4m/2344359533.html
http://images.craigslist.org/3n23ob3lb5V25T65P1b4o5707deff64b9104a.jpghttp://images.craigslist.org/3oa3p53lb5O45X65R2b4o7be2300212a51d46.jpg
Sexiest FTM in Cali...Literally lol - 24 (la to oc)

I think I am the cutest ftm in la (female to male transgender). pre op and on T so dont ask dumb questions. Probably mostly posting to get my ego stroked but also down to find buddy...cuddle or otherwise lol. Respect is key. SEND A PIC or no response...for realzzzzz. Already met cool ppl on here but looking for new friends too

[tsbrenda]

I have seen LESBIANs and stud girls pick up female prostitues on sunset blvd in HOLLYWOOD CA.

they have paid for service

[ftmsquirt]

The assumptions about functioning genitals are hilarious! Rather than make assumptions, why don't you ask. My pussy is incredibly functioning. A guy with a pie (or two bottom holes). For many, a guy with a pie is hot. Why would someone's pussy not be functioning (unless they don't want someone to touch it, or have had bottom surgery to create a dick and had the vaginal opening closed).

If FTMs aren't your cup of tea, no worries but ask questions to inform yourself of accurate info rather than make sweeping generalizations that are uneducated.

[speedstick112]

The assumptions about functioning genitals are hilarious! Rather than make assumptions, why don't you ask. My pussy is incredibly functioning. A guy with a pie (or two bottom holes). For many, a guy with a pie is hot. Why would someone's pussy not be functioning (unless they don't want someone to touch it, or have had bottom surgery to create a dick and had the vaginal opening closed).

If FTMs aren't your cup of tea, no worries but ask questions to inform yourself of accurate info rather than make sweeping generalizations that are uneducated.

Dude, I am ftm too. Didn't know there were others on this board. High five.

[innocentbychoice]

I'm an FTM escort. And YES we're around, and NO it's not that there isn't a market because there is. Transphobia doesn't preclude those who are attracted to transwomen and so the way we seek companions tends to be more discreet. We get our business from word of mouth, referrals, and those who really seek us out know where and how to find us. Because I exclusively cater to cisgender men, my clients are of all sexual orientations (however most of mine are gay or bi). All incredibly respectful and intelligent men who seek quality companionship.

Good to know. It makes sense that most men that look for you are either gay or bi; I'm gay and I think transmen are hot.


People who want a female escort want a functional hole of some kind... mouth, pussy or ass. People want a male escort for functional cock. People want a m2f TG escort either for hole or cock, depending on if they're top or bottom. People don't want f2m escorts because there is no functional cock or pussy.

I think Phobun has a point. A male-to-female trans escort has both, the hole and the dick so I guess they cater to a larger audience.

[CannibalMan]

I always wanted to see regular sex between f2m and an m2f (missionary). That would be real cool, but the video I saw was more about oral sex and stuff like that.

[theone1982]

The same reason there isn't a lot of FTM porn, the market isn't there.

[speedstick112]

To all the smart alecks saying that the answer is that there is no market/appeal, it's an obvious guess, but what the hell do you know? If you've never even known an ftm, how the hell would you know whether the people to whom we appeal are gay or straight? The same goes for our bodies, transition and everything else. This isn't really a topic that you can understand just by extrapolating from what little you think you know.

[theone1982]

To all the smart alecks saying that the answer is that there is no market/appeal, it's an obvious guess, but what the hell do you know? If you've never even known an ftm, how the hell would you know whether the people to whom we appeal are gay or straight? The same goes for our bodies, transition and everything else. This isn't really a topic that you can understand just by extrapolating from what little you think you know.

Sometimes the obvious guesses are the correct ones. What is your explanation?

[speedstick112]

Sometimes the obvious guesses are the correct ones. What is your explanation?

My explanation is that there is no reliable record of how many ftm escorts are out there, so nothing can be said about whether or not that number constitutes "a lot". There are probably more than you would assume just because you've never heard of it. The same goes for ftm's in porn. They've been around for many years and there's currently something of an uprising of them in queer porn (try google). I don't think many people on this board are familiar with that niche. It's marketed in a different way, not for shock value but as an honest portrayal of sexuality.

[theone1982]

My explanation is that there is no reliable record of how many ftm escorts are out there, so nothing can be said about whether or not that number constitutes "a lot". There are probably more than you would assume just because you've never heard of it. The same goes for ftm's in porn. They've been around for many years and there's currently something of an uprising of them in queer porn (try google). I don't think many people on this board are familiar with that niche. It's marketed in a different way, not for shock value but as an honest portrayal of sexuality.

Fair enough. I'm sorry if any of my comments were insensitive, I did make a lot of assumptions, and I admit I am pretty unfamiliar with the FTM niche.

[speedstick112]

Fair enough. I'm sorry if any of my comments were insensitive, I did make a lot of assumptions, and I admit I am pretty unfamiliar with the FTM niche.

S'ok, there are only 2 ftm's here to read it anyway. Some other folks' comments have been far worse. I am just glad I could shed some more light on the topic.

[bte]

I always wanted to see regular sex between f2m and an m2f (missionary). That would be real cool, but the video I saw was more about oral sex and stuff like that.

Alexis (now Sarina) did a scene with a transman. I also think Allanah did a scene with Buck Angel.

[robertlouis]

S'ok, there are only 2 ftm's here to read it anyway. Some other folks' comments have been far worse. I am just glad I could shed some more light on the topic.

I'm still amazed that folks are still airing their prejudices and suppositions when you and ftmsquirt are providing factual evidence based on your own experience. People can be very strange.

It's good to have you here. Please stay.

[phobun]

The assumptions about functioning genitals are hilarious! Rather than make assumptions, why don't you ask. My pussy is incredibly functioning. A guy with a pie (or two bottom holes). For many, a guy with a pie is hot. Why would someone's pussy not be functioning (unless they don't want someone to touch it, or have had bottom surgery to create a dick and had the vaginal opening closed).

If FTMs aren't your cup of tea, no worries but ask questions to inform yourself of accurate info rather than make sweeping generalizations that are uneducated.


Testosterone will dry the pussy out...

"According to Trans Care, a service of Vancouver Coastal Health, the majority of changes associated with testosterone therapy occur during the first two years of treatment. Effects felt within one to three months include increased libido, clitoral growth, hairgrowth, dryness of the vagina..."
http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5217285_long-ftm-testosterone-changes-_.html

"How long you have been on testosterone and the levels of it in your system can affect the levels of lubrication in the vagina... It is important to be aware of this. Lack of lubrication can make a Pap smear very uncomfortable. As well as drying the vagina the testosterone can give it a red or irritated appearance internally..."
http://www.gendercentre.org.au/69article9.htm

What a delight! Every guy likes a dry pie.

[CannibalMan]

What a delight! Every guy likes a dry pie.
Dude. No need to be a smart mouth.

[GrimFusion]

The same reason there isn't a lot of FTM porn, the market isn't there.

Honestly, I kinda agree despite the backlash from the two FtM members on here. With the exception of the few dozen bisexual dudes who don't give a shit about what other people think in regards to their sexual orientation, I'd suspect most other dudes are even more subtle and secretive about their FtM preference than many of the chasers around here. It's not that a market doesn't exist. It's just not large enough or public enough to consider a "scene".

[CannibalMan]

To all the smart alecks saying that the answer is that there is no market/appeal, it's an obvious guess, but what the hell do you know? If you've never even known an ftm, how the hell would you know whether the people to whom we appeal are gay or straight? The same goes for our bodies, transition and everything else. This isn't really a topic that you can understand just by extrapolating from what little you think you know.
You may correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the market is much bigger for m2f than for f2m. Even on non-transsexual sites I see anonymous people left and right saying that they like tgirls, it's almost becoming mainstream. I've also seen people declare they are into f2m transsexuals, but those are much fewer people. Mind you I don't mean that one is supposed to be better than the other because of the market size.

About the people who you appeal to, I remember Buck Angel saying in an interview that they are mostly gay guys. That's all I know.

But, if you ask me, I think that the perfect pairing would be between a masculine f2m and a feminine m2f.

[Jericho]

If you're an ftm, you're a guy...I don't want to fuck a guy! :shrug
If that's yer thing, good luck!

[speedstick112]

You may correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the market is much bigger for m2f than for f2m. Even on non-transsexual sites I see anonymous people left and right saying that they like tgirls, it's almost becoming mainstream. I've also seen people declare they are into f2m transsexuals, but those are much fewer people. Mind you I don't mean that one is supposed to be better than the other because of the market size.

About the people who you appeal to, I remember Buck Angel saying in an interview that they are mostly gay guys. That's all I know.

But, if you ask me, I think that the perfect pairing would be between a masculine f2m and a feminine m2f.

I agree that the market is currently much bigger for tgirls, for many reasons. But I wouldn't consider it near mainstream when these declarations are anonymous.

Grim: Why do you presume that any kind of ftm "scene" would have all these parallels with the tgirl scene? I think your estimate of "a few dozen bisexual dudes" is a bit short-sighted. The entire sex industry is very accommodating to confidentiality, anyway.

Personally, it's mostly trans girls and cis girls that like me. (Yeah, I am actually here because I like trans girls, not something to do with the fact that I am trans.) Buck makes his porn for gay guys because the market is obviously larger for men than for women. But women and trans people watch porn too, and they probably don't like watching the kind of mainstream, sexist porn that degrades and sensationalizes women and trans people. What kind of porn do you think lesbians watch? Certainly not that "girl-on-girl" stuff. See my previous comment about the emergence queer porn. It's important not to pidgeonhole sexualities, although the sex industry essentially has to do this.

[CannibalMan]

Your answer makes sense to me because, before I saw Buck's interview, I thought that most people into f2m's were gg (cis-girls). But you're saying that there is also a significant number of tgirls? That I didn't expect...

[GrimFusion]

I agree that the market is currently much bigger for tgirls, for many reasons. But I wouldn't consider it near mainstream when these declarations are anonymous.

Grim: Why do you presume that any kind of ftm "scene" would have all these parallels with the tgirl scene? I think your estimate of "a few dozen bisexual dudes" is a bit short-sighted. The entire sex industry is very accommodating to confidentiality, anyway.

Personally, it's mostly trans girls and cis girls that like me. (Yeah, I am actually here because I like trans girls, not something to do with the fact that I am trans.) Buck makes his porn for gay guys because the market is obviously larger for men than for women. But women and trans people watch porn too, and they probably don't like watching the kind of mainstream, sexist porn that degrades and sensationalizes women and trans people. What kind of porn do you think lesbians watch? Certainly not that "girl-on-girl" stuff. See my previous comment about the emergence queer porn. It's important not to pidgeonhole sexualities, although the sex industry essentially has to do this.

Perhaps my claim is a little short-sighted, and you're right... the "FtM scene" doesn't exist in the same capacity as the MtF scene. There really aren't any parallels. I've met a few FtM transsexuals and they don't hang around theme bars looking to hook up with chicks, the few I've known don't escort to support their transition, and I haven't stumbled across too many FtM community sites on the net.

Perhaps that's just because I'm not that interested and I'm speaking from the few experiences I've found myself involved in rather than doing my "homework", per se. I just imagine if there are MtF transsexuals out there escorting, they'd likely have a harder time finding open, honest people as clients because of the lack of a bar or club scene, the omission of a unified online or local community, and the lack of escorting sites specifically catering to the MtF transgendered community.

Meh... I might be wrong. I probably am. Sometimes I just talk for the sake of talking.

[robertlouis]

If you're an ftm, you're a guy...I don't want to fuck a guy! :shrug
If that's yer thing, good luck!

That Bertrand Russell look in your avatar isn't just for show, is it, old chap? :geek:

[natina]

when vagina fluid dries or flakes it makes these tasty treats I call frosted flakes.

I wonder if you can get frosted flakes from a girl on testosterone?

some times fucking a true lesbian is like fuck a virgin,pussy is gonna be tight and dry.


http://mediap.bigmovies.com/images/dvd/1928/lick-my-pussy-juice_big.jpg

[Silcc69]

There is so much anger and prejudice in here. And i'm pretty sure that mtf are way more common than ftm ts. As long I have been browsing CL's I have probably come across 2 ftm ads on there in about 2 years. I'm also pretty sure it's easier for them to get a normal job compared to mtf ts.

[Louie Damazo]

See EDDIE MURPHY´s RAW STAND UP COMEDY of the 80´s

If u re a guy and wanna a Pussy , u pay
If u re a girl and wanna a dick , is free

[natina]

I have met so many FTM from CRAIGSLISTS.
I do not know how you missed them.

you have to check these for FTM's W4W,T4W,W4T
also try the terms STUD,BOI



There is so much anger and prejudice in here. And i'm pretty sure that mtf are way more common than ftm ts. As long I have been browsing CL's I have probably come across 2 ftm ads on there in about 2 years. I'm also pretty sure it's easier for them to get a normal job compared to mtf ts.

[phobun]

I'm also pretty sure it's easier for them to get a normal job compared to mtf ts.


That's a good point.

[slingblade]

To all the smart alecks saying that the answer is that there is no market/appeal, it's an obvious guess, but what the hell do you know? If you've never even known an ftm, how the hell would you know whether the people to whom we appeal are gay or straight? The same goes for our bodies, transition and everything else. This isn't really a topic that you can understand just by extrapolating from what little you think you know.

I doubt there is a market out there for them to actually make money escorting who's going to pay to see them?

[chitown_boi]

Its very interesting to read about this topic. I myself am a FTM, and I would say it is difficult to find people that are comfortable messing with a ftm.

[Quiet Reflections]

women are catty bitches and men are douchey haters welcome to the perfect storm of HA.

[Ryz]

I wish I had a time machine

[nina_lisa]

did not read the whole thread, but isn't there more MTFs than FTMs to start with? or at least it is my impression.

[mealticket]

I am an avid tumblr, and there are tons of ftms on there now...I thin it just depends on where you are looking

[Silcc69]

I wish I had a time machine

Why is that my nigga?

[Rivz]

Well basically I think it's this, and it's my opinion of course. If you want to be with a man, you love cock. Most FTM's don't have the bottom surgery, it's pretty expensive, and the results aren't that awesome. So if your into men, why would you want a man with a pussy.

That being said MTF transexuals can look very lady like, and if your into female form, you can do things working around that penis, blow job, ass fucking, and pretty much save your pride on the fact she looks like a girl, so maybe just maybe you are not gay.

[danthepoetman]

did not read the whole thread, but isn't there more MTFs than FTMs to start with? or at least it is my impression.

Nina Lisa gets in this all with her usual wisdom, I find. Every study seems to show that 4 in 5 if not 9 in 10 transsexuals are m2f… There’s probably some sociological reasons for that (social values, choices, costs, etc.), but the disproportion can probably only be explain by biological reasons.
Now as to why men will pay more for sex than women, they are also biological, of course. Men’s desire is raw drive coming solely from testosterone. Women’s desire is much more complex: it’s passive AND active, it has an “attractive” side to it and even a “receptive” aspect, which is linked to several biological substances metabolized by the body, and both oestrogen and testosterone (the latter produced by the adrenal glands in small proportion) are involved in the process.
That’s my two cents on this.

[amberskyi]

Well basically I think it's this, and it's my opinion of course. If you want to be with a man, you love cock. Most FTM's don't have the bottom surgery, it's pretty expensive, and the results aren't that awesome. So if your into men, why would you want a man with a pussy.

That being said MTF transexuals can look very lady like, and if your into female form, you can do things working around that penis, blow job, ass fucking, and pretty much save your pride on the fact she looks like a girl, so maybe just maybe you are not gay.

You do realize how illogical your argument was right

[nina_lisa]

they are also biological, of course.

During pregnancy we all start as females, then some stay female, other via a hormonal release during pregnancy will become male, sometime the transformation is not 100% successful, so the brain stay female but the body become male.

Guess because of this, a birth defect is more frequent in one direction than the other.

[nina_lisa]

A way to think about it is: why is there more female than male escorts?

more often that men because of Testesterone want it now and quick, T is an emotion blocker in a certain way.

Estrogen make women more emotional and they need more than just sex, so to fix the imbalance money come into play.

there is more female escorts and MTF are femals, there is less male escort and FTM are males.

[danthepoetman]

During pregnancy we all start as females, then some stay female, other via a hormonal release during pregnancy will become male, sometime the transformation is not 100% successful, so the brain stay female but the body become male.

Guess because of this, a birth defect is more frequent in one direction than the other.

I couldn’t agree more with the content of your last two posts, Nina Lisa. It’s all about the different biological ways men and women (including of course t-women) feel desire and live their sexuality.

What you said about foetal development is also totally accurate and actual researches in both neurology and endocrinology have definitely proven it. I would only add as a probable supplementary cause of m2f transgenderism the impact of substances ever more present in our lives as a result of growing industrial production, since the beginning of the 20th century, which we call xenoestrogens (phthalates, for instance, present in plastic). These are molecules that can imitate estrogens and largely influence living organisms. We used to think large amounts only could impact the body. We know now infinitesimal amounts can sometimes be biologically influential. We already have the data when it comes to animal life, and many studies already seem to indicate that they are involved in the decrease of fertility in men all over the world. Chances are, we will find soon enough that they have a strong effect on foetal development and the cause of a large portion of the cases of m2f transgenderism.

This being said, Nina Lisa, I personally don’t see this as a birth defect. Life as a way of turning out strangely at times. Biological diversity and even abnormalities is not only the very principle of evolution, it’s also the key to life itself, the only way by which complex organisms have developed resistance and adaptability. You are not by any mean the result of a defect, Nina Lisa: you are a lovely young woman in a fight to adapt. And that, to me, is really beautiful.
These two more cents I add to the previous two ones.