Alabama law firm to Taco Bell: That's not beef

[Silcc69]

MONTGOMERY, Ala. — An Alabama law firm claims in a lawsuit that Taco Bell is using false advertising when it refers to using "seasoned ground beef" or "seasoned beef" in its products.
The meat mixture sold by Taco Bell restaurants contains binders and extenders and does not meet the minimum requirements set by the U.S. Department of Agriculture to be labeled as "beef," according to the legal complaint.


The class-action lawsuit was filed Friday in federal court in the Central District of California by the Montgomery law firm Beasley, Allen, Crow, Methvin, Portis & Miles.
Attorney Dee Miles said attorneys had Taco Bell's "meat mixture" tested and found it contained less that 35 percent beef.
Miles said the lawsuit does not seek monetary damages, but asks the court to order Taco Bell to be honest in its advertising.
"We are asking that they stop saying that they are selling beef," Miles said.
Story: Nutrition info coming to fronts of food packages (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41241705/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/) Irvine, Calif.-based Taco Bell spokesman Rob Poetsch (PAYCH) said the company denies that its advertising is misleading.
"Taco Bell prides itself on serving high quality Mexican inspired food with great value. We're happy that the millions of customers we serve every week agree," Poetsch said. He said the company would "vigorously defend the suit."
The lawsuit says that Taco Bell's "seasoned beef" contains other ingredients, including water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodrextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified corn starch.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41242132/ns/business-consumer_news


I try and stay away from Toxic Hell.

[BellaBellucci]

Lots of other good things have come out of Bama.

Ok, maybe just one:

YouTube - Sweet Home Alabama-lynyrd skynyrd (lyrics in description) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8rnFKo4PAE)

~BB~

[Silcc69]

And my man Chuck! Bama isnt that bad now that I think about it.

http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/charles-barkley-dick-bavetta-kiss-close.jpg

[rockabilly]

No beef?

Does that make Taco Bell a vegan establishment?

[PomonaCA]

I hope Taco Bell files counter suit for defamation. We don't need bullshit litigation like this and we definitely don't need bullshit lawyers trying to intimidate job-creating corporations, especially with this Obama economy.

Anyone with half a brain knows, INSTINCTIVELY, that when you are eating fast food you are taking 1 day off your life expectancy. You also have to know that eating too much fast food will kill you and if you don't, we need you to die anyway so it's a wash.

[BellaBellucci]

I hope Taco Bell files counter suit for defamation. We don't need bullshit litigation like this and we definitely don't need bullshit lawyers trying to intimidate job-creating corporations, especially with this Obama economy.

Anyone with half a brain knows, INSTINCTIVELY, that when you are eating fast food you are taking 1 day off your life expectancy. You also have to know that eating too much fast food will kill you and if you don't, we need you to die anyway so it's a wash.

A Bella point for you, hon. :Bowdown:

~BB~

[rockabilly]

A Bella point for you, hon. :Bowdown:

~BB~

Collect 6 and get a Beef Burritto or Chalupa.

[nonnonnon]

dang I ate some taco bell tonight

[sunairco]

Well, the legal profession has lost the insurance piggybank to agressive counter litigation by the insurance companies, the Partial and Serveral deep pocket game in many states, the drive-by ADA hit and runs, now they're playing courtroom casino with product ingredients? That's scraping the bottom of the barrel if all they have left is catholic priests, intelectual property extortion, and what's inside cheap, ground meat to make an easy buck. Eventually they're actually going to have to earn their living doing real legal work. Freightening thought for Mercedes and BWM dealers that these guys will soon be driving three year old Accords and Camarys isn't it?

[lovesall]

Have not had old toxic hell in awhile and with this I really don't plan on it anytime soon.

[Caff_Racer]

Aren't us Europeans lucky that we don't have Taco Bell outlets here!

[Teydyn]

what's inside cheap, ground meat to make an easy buck. Eventually they're actually going to have to earn their living doing real legal work.
Maybe read the OP again? What they do is a good thing.


Miles said the lawsuit does not seek monetary damages, but asks the court to order Taco Bell to be honest in its advertising

[DL_NL]

I hope no-one here's deluding him/herself thinking that you're actually getting ANY healthy substance at a fast food joint...

[spankrod]

"We will fight for ... bovine freedom ..."

[drmindbender03]

I hope Taco Bell files counter suit for defamation. We don't need bullshit litigation like this and we definitely don't need bullshit lawyers trying to intimidate job-creating corporations, especially with this Obama economy.

Anyone with half a brain knows, INSTINCTIVELY, that when you are eating fast food you are taking 1 day off your life expectancy. You also have to know that eating too much fast food will kill you and if you don't, we need you to die anyway so it's a wash.

Defamation? Man, what are you talking about? You are missing the point. The lawsuit revolves around trying to push Taco Bell to be honest about their ingredients.

One of my closest friends has a son that worked about Taco Bell one summer. His son said that the beef ingredients comes from a bag. His son also stated that he and his co-workers would add water to the ingredients that came out of the bag. The end result would be what we see in commercials and in tacos.

Have you ever been inside of a grocery store? Have you ever been in the meat department? Have you ever seen a bag labeled as beef in the meat department? Are you required to add water to the beef you purchase from a grocery store?

One hundred percent real ground beef or chuck does not require any water for usage............

[trish]

Oh don't mind Pomona, he's just what happens when you add tequila to one of those taco shit bags.

[Norma]

Lots of other good things have come out of Bama.

Ok, maybe just one:

YouTube - Sweet Home Alabama-lynyrd skynyrd (lyrics in description) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8rnFKo4PAE)

~BB~

Skynyrd is actually from Jacksonville Florida....but sweet song! :rock2

Btw, eew! at Taco Bell. Must buy beefy(?) 5 layer burrito.... must buy...

[hippifried]

I just hope they don't start fuckin' with Jack in the Box.
Love those tacos, but I don't want to know what's in 'em.

[trish]

I just hope they don't start fuckin' with Jack in the Box.
Love those tacos, but I don't want to know what's in 'em.100% pure Jack.

[bte]

Well no more Volcano tacos (insert sad face here).

[CORVETTEDUDE]

You're talkin' about Dino Velvets Gourmet Resteraunt and primary meeting place with Bella!!! Be careful...be very careful!!!

[GrimFusion]

I hope Taco Bell files counter suit for defamation. We don't need bullshit litigation like this and we definitely don't need bullshit lawyers trying to intimidate job-creating corporations, especially with this Obama economy.

Anyone with half a brain knows, INSTINCTIVELY, that when you are eating fast food you are taking 1 day off your life expectancy. You also have to know that eating too much fast food will kill you and if you don't, we need you to die anyway so it's a wash.

I disagree, although I think you do make a good point. If people are worried about the nutritional value of fast food, they probably shouldn't be eating fast food in the first place.

However, I don't see this as a smear campaign. Taco Bell shouldn't be advertising their meat-mixture as beef if beef doesn't account for 50% of the composition. That's called a lie. The simple solution is refusing to eat Taco Bell, but I think that's the passive-aggressive approach.

Fighting them legally is a downhill battle. Even if Alabama wins, Taco Bell's reply will likely mimic that of McDonald's. Heavily genetically modified vegetables, flavor enhancers, and insane list of preservatives. "Healthy food" which really isn't healthy.

As far as I'm concerned, anything which near needlessly raises the cost to a corporation like Taco Bell, the better. If these fast food joints are going to attempt stretching the truth and pulling the blindfold over the eyes of the American public at the risk of public heath, they should pay out the ass for it. That's about the only way we'll start seeing fast food joints disappear from the corner of every third block.

Just out of interest, after checking Wikipedia and adding the recorded population of the 25 largest cities in America from 2010, then dividing that by the rough number of fast food establishments in America, I came up with the loose estimate that there is one fast food place for every 200 legal Americans. That's pretty crappy considering they litter our neighborhoods, serve garbage food, and suck money from the local community.

They should go and it seems to me that the only way to usher their demise is to hit them in the wallet. Alabama isn't playing their hand of cards correctly. They should find some poor, fat mother fucker to sue them for physical and emotional damages caused by false advertising. Enough of that retarded fodder filtering through our court system and eventually some of it would be allowed and awarded. I'd hate to stoop to that because it's pure stupidity, but at least it's feasible.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I disagree, although I think you do make a good point. If people are worried about the nutritional value of fast food, they probably shouldn't be eating fast food in the first place.

However, I don't see this as a smear campaign. Taco Bell shouldn't be advertising their meat-mixture as beef if beef doesn't account for 50% of the composition. That's called a lie. The simple solution is refusing to eat Taco Bell, but I think that's the passive-aggressive approach.

Fighting them legally is a downhill battle. Even if Alabama wins, Taco Bell's reply will likely mimic that of McDonald's. Heavily genetically modified vegetables, flavor enhancers, and insane list of preservatives. "Healthy food" which really isn't healthy.

As far as I'm concerned, anything which near needlessly raises the cost to a corporation like Taco Bell, the better. If these fast food joints are going to attempt stretching the truth and pulling the blindfold over the eyes of the American public at the risk of public heath, they should pay out the ass for it. That's about the only way we'll start seeing fast food joints disappear from the corner of every third block.

Just out of interest, after checking Wikipedia and adding the recorded population of the 25 largest cities in America from 2010, then dividing that by the rough number of fast food establishments in America, I came up with the loose estimate that there is one fast food place for every 200 legal Americans. That's pretty crappy considering they litter our neighborhoods, serve garbage food, and suck money from the local community.

They should go and it seems to me that the only way to usher their demise is to hit them in the wallet. I support Alabama's case despite thinking it's a little petty.


Ohhhhh, this guy's good!!!

[BeardedOne]

I just hope they don't start fuckin' with Jack in the Box.
Love those tacos, but I don't want to know what's in 'em.


Was there ever any doubt? Aren't they still owned by Ralston/Purina Chows?

[sunairco]

I don't have any idea what your friend's son was doing, but the taco meat does indeed come in a bag pre-cooked,but unless they changed something within the last 6mo., it isn't rehydrated. The kids just take the bags out of the walk-in fridge and place them in the hot bath until heated and ready to use. Then they dump them into the hotel pan in the preparation station. They use a forked-like squeezer to get every last piece/drop out of the bag. No water added in anything I've seen.






One of my closest friends has a son that worked about Taco Bell one summer. His son said that the beef ingredients comes from a bag. His son also stated that he and his co-workers would add water to the ingredients that came out of the bag. The end result would be what we see in commercials and in tacos.

Have you ever been inside of a grocery store? Have you ever been in the meat department? Have you ever seen a bag labeled as beef in the meat department? Are you required to add water to the beef you purchase from a grocery store?

One hundred percent real ground beef or chuck does not require any water for usage............

[thombergeron]

Just out of interest, after checking Wikipedia and adding the recorded population of the 25 largest cities in America from 2010, then dividing that by the rough number of fast food establishments in America, I came up with the loose estimate that there is one fast food place for every 200 legal Americans. That's pretty crappy considering they litter our neighborhoods, serve garbage food, and suck money from the local community.

It's far worse than that. People tend to eat what's most easily available in their local food environment, and fast food restaurants tend to be located in poor and minority-dominated neighborhoods. Plus fast food is cheaper than fresh food. It's a big part of the reason obesity rates among the poor are much higher than the rest of the population. Huge amount of research on this lately.

Saying that fast food consumers deserve to be unhealthy because they should know better completely misses the point. A lot of people in this country simply don't have access to fresh food, and couldn't afford if they did. And frankly, if you barely have a high-school education and can't afford a computer, how exactly are you supposed to know that that stuff that looks like beef isn't really beef? Particularly when Taco Bell is telling you it's beef?

[drmindbender03]

I don't have any idea what your friend's son was doing, but the taco meat does indeed come in a bag pre-cooked,but unless they changed something within the last 6mo., it isn't rehydrated. The kids just take the bags out of the walk-in fridge and place them in the hot bath until heated and ready to use. Then they dump them into the hotel pan in the preparation station. They use a forked-like squeezer to get every last piece/drop out of the bag. No water added in anything I've seen.

Why would he lie? He simply was doing what he was trained to do. He worked there a few years ago. Taco Bell is simply trying to push off a beef by-product as beef. They are not putting 100% beef into their food items.

Do you honestly think they are serving 100% beef? There is a difference between the so-called beef Taco Bell uses and the beef that is found in butcher shops and grocery markets.

[sunairco]

I'm not questioning if it's 100% beef. If you've ever made taco meat properly, you'd realize that you need to add a starch/protien complex to it to get that fine crumbled texture. The process is called Panade whereby the starches absorb usually a milk protien that forms a gelatin coating around the meat that prevents it from binding into clumps. Sure, you could start with 100% meat, but by the time you add the panade components, seasonings, and then preservatives,stabalizers,anti-frost agents, and general fillers for a smooth mouth feel that you would expect from a commercial product, it's not going to be considered pure beef. This is more a matter of semantics then product misrepresentation. You essentially do the very same thing each time you add an envelope of taco seasoning to a pound of meat w/o the shelf stablizers. I guess if you want 100% beef in your taco, it's not going to taste like a taco if you want to be literal about it. BTW, have you ever considered what 100% beef is? It leagally contain cow lips and assholes under commercial Utility,Cutter, or Canner grades used in food processing.

Regarding the meat. The packages are sealed and opened with scissors after immersion heating. Who knows what the kid was doing or saw, but it's not SOP to do anything but warm,cut,and dump the meat into the prep using the sous vide bags and water circulators.

[Dino Velvet]

This thread's making me hungry. Tonight I will perform a feat of magic. I will take a 10 pack of tacos and turn it into a 3 piece poop meal deal.

Fuck it all! Taco Bell is delicious! You'll have to pry my enchiritos out of my cold, dead hands!

[PomonaCA]

Defamation? Man, what are you talking about? You are missing the point. The lawsuit revolves around trying to push Taco Bell to be honest about their ingredients.

One of my closest friends has a son that worked about Taco Bell one summer. His son said that the beef ingredients comes from a bag. His son also stated that he and his co-workers would add water to the ingredients that came out of the bag. The end result would be what we see in commercials and in tacos.

Have you ever been inside of a grocery store? Have you ever been in the meat department? Have you ever seen a bag labeled as beef in the meat department? Are you required to add water to the beef you purchase from a grocery store?

One hundred percent real ground beef or chuck does not require any water for usage............


You're telling me that people are too stupid to look inside a Crunch wrap supreme and figure out that the orange shit in there isn't meat? Really? We need the fucking courts to tell people that?

Do we need the courts to also tell us that Orange Crush isn't made from 100% crushed oranges? Or even 50% or even 1%?

[PomonaCA]

I disagree, although I think you do make a good point. If people are worried about the nutritional value of fast food, they probably shouldn't be eating fast food in the first place.

However, I don't see this as a smear campaign. Taco Bell shouldn't be advertising their meat-mixture as beef if beef doesn't account for 50% of the composition. That's called a lie. The simple solution is refusing to eat Taco Bell, but I think that's the passive-aggressive approach.


Well I think many people here have already come to the conclusion that you're pretty much a fucking idiot who's opinion can be completely disregarded anyway.... so there's no point in even addressing your points. BTW, Taco Bell and it's lawyers are officially countersue-ing these pigs so I guess your career as a lawyer is short lived.

[natina]

often used for cat & dog food.

its the trimmings and ends



Taco Bell: Grade D meat?


Prime grade is produced from young, well-fed beef cattle. It has abundant marbling and is generally sold in restaurants and hotels. Prime roasts and steaks are excellent for dry-heat cooking (broiling, roasting, or grilling).
Choice grade is high quality, but has less marbling than prime. Choice roasts and steaks from the loin and rib will be very tender, juicy, and flavorful and are, like prime, suited to dry-heat cooking. Many of the less tender cuts, such as those from the rump, round, and blade chuck, can also be cooked with dry heat if not overcooked. Such cuts will be most tender if “braised” — roasted, or simmered with a small amount of liquid in a tightly covered pan.
Select grade is very uniform in quality and normally leaner than the higher grades. It is fairly tender, but, because it has less marbling, it may lack some of the juiciness and flavor of the higher grades. Only the tender cuts (loin, rib, sirloin) should be cooked with dry heat. Other cuts should be marinated before cooking or braised to obtain maximum tenderness and flavor.
Standard and commercial grades are frequently sold as ungraded or as “store brand” meat.


Utility, cutter, and canner grades are seldom, if ever, sold at retail but are used instead to make ground beef and processed products.:yayo:
Taco Bell uses “cutter” beef, which is what almost all ground beef is. Basically they grind up the leftover trimmings that didn’t make the best cuts. Before you start getting completely grossed out, it is all cow meat and by law cannot contain cow organs or tendons or hooves or anything like that. So Taco Bell uses low quality, but perfectly safe ground beef. However, since this stuff isn’t flavorful by itself, so they process it by adding ‘natural’ flavoring, salt, sugar, caramel color.


http://www.annarbor.com/entertainment/food-drink/taco-bell---grade-d-meat/
http://www.annarbor.com/entertainment/food-drink/taco-bell---grade-d-meat/
http://www.annarbor.com/entertainment/food-drink/taco-bell---grade-d-meat/
http://www.annarbor.com/entertainment/food-drink/taco-bell---grade-d-meat/


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[phobun]

often used for cat & dog food.

its the trimmings and ends



Taco Bell: Grade D meat?


There is a whole hierarchy for transgenders too, with CDs and TVs at the bottom. You are the transgender version of grade D meat.

[natina]

lucky it is not ENTRAILS



this TROLL phobun is shit

http://204.74.214.194/sm/custom/e834fc8a00.jpg

[El Nino]

Here we go!

[drmindbender03]

I'm not questioning if it's 100% beef. If you've ever made taco meat properly, you'd realize that you need to add a starch/protien complex to it to get that fine crumbled texture. The process is called Panade whereby the starches absorb usually a milk protien that forms a gelatin coating around the meat that prevents it from binding into clumps. Sure, you could start with 100% meat, but by the time you add the panade components, seasonings, and then preservatives,stabalizers,anti-frost agents, and general fillers for a smooth mouth feel that you would expect from a commercial product, it's not going to be considered pure beef. This is more a matter of semantics then product misrepresentation. You essentially do the very same thing each time you add an envelope of taco seasoning to a pound of meat w/o the shelf stablizers. I guess if you want 100% beef in your taco, it's not going to taste like a taco if you want to be literal about it. BTW, have you ever considered what 100% beef is? It leagally contain cow lips and assholes under commercial Utility,Cutter, or Canner grades used in food processing.

Regarding the meat. The packages are sealed and opened with scissors after immersion heating. Who knows what the kid was doing or saw, but it's not SOP to do anything but warm,cut,and dump the meat into the prep using the sous vide bags and water circulators.

The bottom line is that it is not 100% beef! Isn't that the topic? Do you own a Taco Bell Franchise? Are you the manager of Taco Bell? Do you own stock at Taco Bell? You're defending them pretty hard.

The lawsuit is about Taco Bell pushing off their beef by-product as genuine beef. They are not serving genuine beef. You are solidifying this point even further by listing the ingredients that is present within their product.

Yes, I know what beef is? Do you? I live in a large city here in the states. We have butcher shops that buy from private farmers that raise their own cattle. We have organic supermarkets that serve only 100% beef that does not contain any steroids, additives, or preservatives.

There is a difference between consuming commercially raised cattle and privately raised cattle. How can you say that a taco will not taste the same with 100% beef? That is one of the most absurd (stupid) statements I have ever read on this forum. That is your personal opinion based upon what you like. You cannot speak for everyone.

By the way, you have several misspellings in your post. How can someone with all the sense in the world fail to spell the words protein and legally correctly?

[PomonaCA]

The bottom line is that it is not 100% beef! Isn't that the topic? Do you own a Taco Bell Franchise? Are you the manager of Taco Bell? Do you own stock at Taco Bell? You're defending them pretty hard.


Let's assume for a minute that you are not a stupid motherfucker. I presume you are not, but let's assume are not.

Let me ask you a question you insightful individual. Taco Bell advertises "Seasoned Ground Beef" in their commercials. Do you consider "Seasoned Ground Beef" to be 100% ground beef? Of if they add stuff like Water, salt and Paprika to it, does it stop being 100% ground beef? I'm just curious because I know that you being NOT a stupid motherfucker, but instead an intelligent person, you would not refer to Seasoned Ground Beef as "100% Ground Beef".

[PomonaCA]

I live in a large city here in the states. We have butcher shops that buy from private farmers that raise their own cattle.

One more question, you intelligent individual. Can you define "Private farmers"? What does that mean? Because you can rest assured that McDonalds, Taco Bell, Kroger, Whole Foods, Del Taco and hell, even Lawry's The Prime Rib ALL buy their beef from private farmers.

Gosh you are even more smarter than like before!

[El Nino]

It's all just a question of natural selection (survival of the fittest). If an indivdual is not educated enough, or health conscious enought for that matter, and chooses to eat this 35% chemical beef; then they may just very well get fat, diseased and die.

[TsVanessa69]

I had a wonderful $5 box from Taco Bell last night. The faux beef was fabulous, I washed it down with a Mountain Dew and the yummy Cinnimon Twists were the perfect way to cap off a great meal..
It tasted great, I got alot for my $5 and I will go back and eat some more.
Despite all those nasty rumors, I am a happy, steady customer!

[fred41]

I had a wonderful $5 box from Taco Bell last night. The faux beef was fabulous, I washed it down with a Mountain Dew and the yummy Cinnimon Twists were the perfect way to cap off a great meal..
It tasted great, I got alot for my $5 and I will go back and eat some more.
Despite all those nasty rumors, I am a happy, steady customer!

lol....take it easy there young lady...you're going to get the 'eat organic' hipster types frothing at the mouth and gnashing their collective teeth (they may get so angry that they'll stop wearing their knit caps in the summer).

[El Nino]

I had a wonderful $5 box from Taco Bell last night. The faux beef was fabulous, I washed it down with a Mountain Dew and the yummy Cinnimon Twists were the perfect way to cap off a great meal..
It tasted great, I got alot for my $5 and I will go back and eat some more.
Despite all those nasty rumors, I am a happy, steady customer!

Better watch out there, Missy... Not only will you get moar fat, you will also develop heart disease... Heart attacks are no fun. Niether is cancer.

[PomonaCA]

Better watch out there, Missy... Not only will you get moar fat, you will also develop heart disease... Heart attacks are no fun. Niether is cancer.


You fool! Don't you know that trannies have no heart?

[TsVanessa69]

You fool! Don't you know that trannies have no heart?
I wonder whY?

[TsVanessa69]

Better watch out there, Missy... Not only will you get moar fat, you will also develop heart disease... Heart attacks are no fun. Niether is cancer.
Im cravin some of that new steak burrito they are showing on the taco bell commercials now. i love that melted fake cheese they use

[PomonaCA]

I wonder whY?

Don't care. I'm just insanely into trannies, heart or not, here I am.

[BellaBellucci]

Don't care. I'm just insanely into trannies, heart or not, here I am.

Don't you mean 'tits or not...?' :whistle:

And that's 'transsexuals' to you. :geek:

~BB~

[drmindbender03]

A private farmer is someone who owns their own farm. That is common sense. Commercial chain fast food restaurants get their items from commercial farms or commercial plantations.

If all of these fast food chains get their items from private farmers, then why is it that so many of them are filing for bankruptcy? Why are so many of them seeking federal aid?

The bottom line is that they are not selling 100% ground beef. The topic is not about choices, it's about being honest. It's about disclosing what is in your product. Merchants that have products being sold in grocery stores reveal all of their ingredients. Why shouldn't Taco Bell be held to the same standard?

[fred41]

People know what Taco Bell is but don't care....the only people that care are people that are never going to eat it anyway, but don't think you should either...
Taco Bell is not going to kill you if you only eat it once in a while (...and stay healthy otherwise)...might give you the shits though...lol.

[sunairco]

Seasoned Ground Beef

Beef, Water, Seasoning [Isolated Oat Product, Salt, Chili Pepper, Onion Powder, Tomato Powder, Oats (Wheat), Soy Lecithin, Sugar, Spices, Maltodextrin, Soybean Oil (Anti-dusting Agent), Garlic Powder, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Citric Acid, Caramel Color, Cocoa Powder (Processed With Alkali), Silicon Dioxide, Natural Flavors, Yeast, Modified Corn Starch, Natural Smoke Flavor], Salt, Sodium Phosphates. CONTAINS SOYBEAN, WHEAT


This sounds like full disclosure to me. What would the list look like should you purchased a package of 100% ground beef and added a packet of taco seasoning and some water by the directions? I don't see anything in the above list that would make this any different except addtions for cold storage stabilization. Regarding the farms. You're dead wrong. Most of the farms that the chains buy from here in Fl are indeed private farms that are members of grower associations or exchanges. These are not huge corporate entitites, but family run operations. You apparently know very little about food sourcing in the states for QSR and chain operated restaurants. These are not commodity crops like soy,wheat,or corn, or other grains or products that are tightly controlled by commercial corporarate interests from grain to delivery.

I don't get you angle here. Just what is it that you have an axe to grind with? Is it an unreasonable anger at fast food in general? Are you a vegan? Do you just dislike TB? Or are you just one of the mindless masses that knee-jerk react to any alarmist media and take no personal responsibility for the choices of what you eat?

[rockabilly]

In the future Taco Bell will be the only restaurant left.

And the faux beef will be replaced w/ Soylent Green.

[sunairco]

When they remove the v from TVP as an ingredient extender, it's time to pay attention to what happened to granny.

[fred41]

In the future Taco Bell will be the only restaurant left.

And the faux beef will be replaced w/ Soylent Green.

:)

YouTube - IT'S PEOPLE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE)

[TsVanessa69]

A private farmer is someone who owns their own farm. That is common sense. Commercial chain fast food restaurants get their items from commercial farms or commercial plantations.

If all of these fast food chains get their items from private farmers, then why is it that so many of them are filing for bankruptcy? Why are so many of them seeking federal aid?

The bottom line is that they are not selling 100% ground beef. The topic is not about choices, it's about being honest. It's about disclosing what is in your product. Merchants that have products being sold in grocery stores reveal all of their ingredients. Why shouldn't Taco Bell be held to the same standard?
Well men are never honest when it comes to ts
so thats how life goes
enter at your own risk and get out of it what you can.

[rockabilly]

The man or the burrito?

[PomonaCA]

Seasoned Ground Beef

Beef, Water, Seasoning [Isolated Oat Product, Salt, Chili Pepper, Onion Powder, Tomato Powder, Oats (Wheat), Soy Lecithin, Sugar, Spices, Maltodextrin, Soybean Oil (Anti-dusting Agent), Garlic Powder, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Citric Acid, Caramel Color, Cocoa Powder (Processed With Alkali), Silicon Dioxide, Natural Flavors, Yeast, Modified Corn Starch, Natural Smoke Flavor], Salt, Sodium Phosphates. CONTAINS SOYBEAN, WHEAT


This sounds like full disclosure to me. What would the list look like should you purchased a package of 100% ground beef and added a packet of taco seasoning and some water by the directions? I don't see anything in the above list that would make this any different except addtions for cold storage stabilization. Regarding the farms. You're dead wrong. Most of the farms that the chains buy from here in Fl are indeed private farms that are members of grower associations or exchanges. These are not huge corporate entitites, but family run operations. You apparently know very little about food sourcing in the states for QSR and chain operated restaurants. These are not commodity crops like soy,wheat,or corn, or other grains or products that are tightly controlled by commercial corporarate interests from grain to delivery.

I don't get you angle here. Just what is it that you have an axe to grind with? Is it an unreasonable anger at fast food in general? Are you a vegan? Do you just dislike TB? Or are you just one of the mindless masses that knee-jerk react to any alarmist media and take no personal responsibility for the choices of what you eat?


Stop making sense! This is a tranny board!

[sunairco]

UR right bro. It's a bad habit I sometimes have when someone lets their mouth overload their ass talking about or repeating things they're clueless about.

[Silcc69]

http://www.freep.com/article/20110227/FEATURES08/102270360/Nutrition-quiz

Oh yeah they got a great deal goin on

http://www.tacobell.com/promo/88Crunchwrap

I will have to take advantage of this deal.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

In the future Taco Bell will be the only restaurant left.

And the faux beef will be replaced w/ Soylent Green.


And, that will make Dino Velvet a very happy man!!!:dancing: