Men that F*ck CD's

[phobun]

yeah cause a lot of these men are naive....I heard a story where a crossdresser went home with a guy and the guy perceived him as a transsexual. And he said look you know I am a boy right on the way there and the guy was uhuh yeah I know......so crossdresserthough the guy was cool...and then started taking off the wig and the make up etc and said okay lets have sex lol and got pissed when the guy dipped out...and the crossdresser was like well I can put the wig back on and the guy said uh no you ruined the fantasy...Miscommunication lol


That wasn't Daryl S.T.F. then.

[phobun]

one thing is for sure TS are very different from TV/CDs

TS girls are girls
TV/CDs are man

besos
Alyssa Luxor


A lot of chasers and cockbandits don't understand that here. Actually I think they do realize this deep down but try to deny it... because by saying TS=CD it gives them license to indulge their id and fuck men in skirts.

As long as a CD looks enough like a woman to them, it is not gay.

Most chasers and cockbandits deny their gay streaks at all costs. Some are self-assured enough not to sweat it, but most aren't.

[phobun]

The last time I had sex with a guy while not in lingerie, wig, and (usually) heels, I was 13. There have been a couple of bf who saw me in guy mode and were comfortable with it.


So do you consider yourself a gay man who likes to crossdress?

[Silcc69]

A lot of chasers and cockbandits don't understand that here. Actually I think they do realize this deep down but try to deny it... because by saying TS=CD it gives them license to indulge their id and fuck men in skirts.

As long as a CD looks enough like a woman to them, it is not gay.

Most chasers and cockbandits deny their gay streaks at all costs. Some are self-assured enough not to sweat it, but most aren't.

LMAO Phobun you are a mess.

[phobun]

LMAO Phobun you are a mess.


I'm just saying it as it is man. Because I understand the thinking of women.

Steve Harvey wrote a book for women called "Think like a man, act like a woman"... and chasers thought it was for them!

Steve Harvey needs to write his next book for men, titled:
"Think like a woman, Act like a man"

Because most of these chasers DO EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. They act like a woman by rolling over and going bitch for penis, and they think like a man, by being preoccupied with testosterone fueled thoughts about their next orgasm.

What the fuck is wrong with these guys?

[loren]

So do you consider yourself a gay man who likes to crossdress?
No, I'm bi. I prefer a big, hard cock, butt I still like GGs.

[phobun]

No, I'm bi, I still like GGs.


But then do you consider the men who fuck you to be straight, as long as you're made up?

[loren]

But then do you consider the men who fuck you to be straight, as long as you're made up?
I don't care if he's straight, gay , bi, courious, or even Catholic:lol:, just as long;) as he's hard.

[phobun]

I don't care if he's straight, gay , bi, courious, or even Catholic:lol:, just as long;) as he's hard.


Answer the question! In your eyes, is the guy who fucks you when you're made-up straight?

[loren]

Answer the question! In your eyes, is the guy who fucks you when you're made-up straight?
If you know anything about me, which you don't, you'd know that I don't really get hung up on lables.:tongue:

[phobun]

If you know anything about me, which you don't, you'd know that I don't really get hung up on lables.:tongue:


The reason you don't get hung on labels is because the guys here itching to fuck you ARE hung up on labels. You're not interested in deflating any potential suitor and the U-HAUL of insecurities he tows around.

[Saffron]

I'm just saying it as it is man. Because I understand the thinking of women.

Steve Harvey wrote a book for women called "Think like a man, act like a woman"... and chasers thought it was for them!

Steve Harvey needs to write his next book for men, titled:
"Think like a woman, Act like a man"

Because most of these chasers DO EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. They act like a woman by rolling over and going bitch for penis, and they think like a man, by being preoccupied with testosterone fueled thoughts about their next orgasm.

What the fuck is wrong with these guys?

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

Why are you so spot on about EVERYTHING? I have never met a men who thought any differently than this. Write a book, seriously.

[nonnonnon]

would you ladies ever date a transman? just curious

[natina]

Bump it
cause its HOT!

And you love it


some CD,DQ have figures without hormones and that is one of the reasons that they started cding or perform as a DQ


there is a popular DQ named nicole who has a womans figure and looks when dressed and looks like a guy when not.

he performs as a woman but has a girl friend

I seen him at some of the balls and contest
MANY TS DO NOT LOOK BETTER THEN THESE CD'S/DQ'S from the balls and contest. many of them go on to become full time in stealth mode and some do not.


MAIN STREAM SOCIETY SAYS THAT ALL TS/TV/TG /CD/DQ ARE ALLL MEN REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU FEEL OR HOW MANY OR HOW MUCH HORMONES AND SURGERY YOU HAD.MAIN STREAM SOCIETY SAYS THAT YOU ARE GAY IF YOU HAVE ANY SEXUAL CONTACT WITH A TS/TV/TG /CD/DQ


to many ts over do it with the surgery and silicone and stuff
but these performing cd's/dq's do not and fool many people .
they do not spook people are do not cause people to start to take a closer look cause something just ain't right

[natina]

bump it cause its HOT and you love it



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[natina]

phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis
phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis

phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis
phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis
phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis
phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis
phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis

and a cd/tv


n.o.f.u.c.k.i.n.g.d.o.u.b.t.


bump it cause its HOT and you love it



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[Silcc69]

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

Why are you so spot on about EVERYTHING? I have never met a men who thought any differently than this. Write a book, seriously.


Is that you in your avatar? I have reasons to believe so but im not quiet sure.

[alyssaluxor]

im very positive that a lot of guys who post on this forum are actually TV/CDs who hide in the closet. the reason why a lot of guys(closet TV/CDs) here also keep on attacking TS girls.

[loren]

The reason you don't get hung on labels is because the guys here itching to fuck you ARE hung up on labels. You're not interested in deflating any potential suitor and the U-HAUL of insecurities he tows around.
FYI, most of the guys I talk to identify themselves as bi. Which is fine with me.:kiss:

[phobun]

im very positive that a lot of guys who post on this forum are actually TV/CDs who hide in the closet. the reason why a lot of guys(closet TV/CDs) here also keep on attacking TS girls.


Do you ever have clients who call you up pretending to be macho studs then when they meet you they actually want to bottom?

[alyssaluxor]

would you ladies ever date a transman? just curious

as long as his hot, yummy and 100% manly looking why not?

my fave transman now is

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3awfwHrd21qas0uco1_500.jpg

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3awgj0otw1qas0uco1_500.jpg

[phobun]

phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis


and a cd/tv


Not even close

[alyssaluxor]

Do you ever have clients who call you up pretending to be macho studs then when they meet you they actually want to bottom?

from my experience most bottom even powerbottom guys are the ones who act macho and stud in public but once inside the room and in bed they are very passive and sissy lol

a lot of professional athlete ive met who are even members of US Olympic, British Olympic, China Olympic ... teams are a powerbottoms :pumped:

[tsparisangelline]

Originally Posted by Silcc69
And what happened to Mariam after all the guys found out that she was a TS?...

That program was preconceived to create and display the stereotypical reaction of a group of young, not very smart, males who were embarrassed in public on a TV dating show. It was little better than Springer. Demonstrates only that men can be stupid, but we knew that...

And there are others, eg Calpernia Addams

Miriam set herself up for that, no offense but I don't find her to be a RESPECTABLE transwoman in anyway.


some CD,DQ have figures without hormones and that is one of the reasons that they started cding or perform as a DQ
there is a popular DQ named nicole who has a womans figure and looks when dressed and looks like a guy when not.
he performs as a woman but has a girl friend

I seen him at some of the balls and contest
MANY TS DO NOT LOOK BETTER THEN THESE CD'S/DQ'S from the balls and contest. many of them go on to become full time in stealth mode and some do not.
to many ts over do it with the surgery and silicone and stuff
but these performing cd's/dq's do not and fool many people .
they do not spook people are do not cause people to start to take a closer look cause something just ain't right

I know ALOT of stealth girls and NOT ONE I HAVE EVER MET has labeled herself a crossdresser.
And I HAVE NEVER SEEN A CD WITH A BODY BETTER THAN A TS!


There are also tg and ts women with some success in politics, medicine, law, etc...A lot of respect for individuals like Phyllis Frye and Victoria Kolakowski

I know Phyllis Frye She changed my name and my gender marker when I was in high school.


Don't know, I'm too out of touch. I think it's someone who's between a bro and a chick. Or maybe someone who's flat at the front & back. Paris could tell you...

A brick is someone with a OBVIOUSLY MASCULINE LOOK.
Kinda like a Pro-athlete with a wig and implants.

[Silcc69]

Speaking of Miriam, anybody heard from good ole RueMue?

[Saffron]

Is that you in your avatar? I have reasons to believe so but im not quiet sure.

Why does everyone ask me that? Yes it is.

[DarylWashington]

That wasn't Daryl S.T.F. then.

If the wig comes off and the hair underneath isn't long, this nigga is out!



phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis
phobun is a broke twink who likes mutilated penis

and a cd/tv


Not even close

Phobun has money, and is a full time TS.

[pointblack]

If the wig comes off and the hair underneath isn't long, this nigga is out!



Phobun has money, and is a full time TS.
Really player??? What's up with the bow tie?

Just asking not trying to be funny...

[DarylWashington]

Really player??? What's up with the bow tie?

Just asking not trying to be funny...

Money :)

[Silcc69]

Why does everyone ask me that? Yes it is.

LOL well ur very pretty to say the least and I haven't seen anything you have done before.

[Paulistano]

There are 5 distinct groups of CDs, showed below:

# 1 – I wouldn’t date none of them, coz they are not my type;

# 2 – I could go out and spend wonderful moments with any of them;

# 3 – I could go out, fall in love, and be happy with any of them;

# 4 – They look a little old fashioned to me, have no more interest on them;

# 5 – I could invite her to spend the rest of my life in a desert island!!!

(by the way… anyone knows who is in the group # 5 ???...lol)

I’m so sorry for those ladies who label “MEN”, people from group # 2, # 3 and # 5. They are prettier than most genetic women in this planet!!! I guess this is not only my opinion in here… It’s only a matter of point of view.

[Silcc69]

The one with the superman outfit on doesn't look like a CD.

[natina]

CD group #1 is hard on the eyes
they look hard and rough like a brick


phobun likes inverted penis
and or an inverted with a piece of ass tissue called the sigmoid colon in it

PHOBUN IS A DICK CHASER/COCK BANDIT/COCK HOUND
he likes his cocks inverted aka penile inversion


if you mutalate a cock phobun is in love
or if you are john Wayne Bobbitt phobun gets excited


hypocrite cock hound phobun

[phobun]

CD group #1 is hard on the eyes
they look hard and rough like a brick


phobun likes inverted penis
and or an inverted with a piece of ass tissue called the sigmoid colon in it

PHOBUN IS A DICK CHASER/COCK BANDIT/COCK HOUND
he likes his cocks inverted aka penile inversion


hypocrite cockhound phobun


You're not a very smart queen.

[loren]

You're not a very smart queen.
I think tsbrenda, I mean natina, for to take his/her:shrug meds.

[phobun]

I think tsbrenda, I mean natina, for to take his/her:shrug meds.


That geezer doesn't take HRT or T-blockers. More like haldol.

[natina]

loren is taking up for phobun cause there anal fuckin each other

let that bitch fend for hisself


knifes and cocks gets phobun so excited ,that he just can't hide it
phobun is about to lose control and I don't like it

[Ryz]

Why does everyone ask me that? Yes it is.

Put TS infront of your name to avoid that

[phobun]

loren is taking up for phobun cause there anal fuckin each other

let that bitch fend for hisself


knifes and cocks gets phobun so excited ,that he just can't hide it
phobun is about to lose control and I don't like it


I heard that you used to masturbate every time 2009AD would respond to you.

I'm not going to indulge you, you sick crossdressing retard.

[natina]

you broke twink thats a retard
loving mutilated penis with peaces of colon draped inside of it


hypocrite inverted cockhound phobun

[phobun]

you broke twink thats a retard
loving mutilated penis with peaces of colon draped inside of it


hypocrite inverted cockhound phobun


comedy gold...

but laughing at you is like laughing at a kid on the little short bus who's retarded and wearing his sisters clothes

[scroller]

There are 5 distinct groups of CDs, showed below...

Thumbs up. Nice post.

[cheez]

this thread is pointless.
TSs will always look down upon TVs; it's a matter of "gender identity" not sex appeal.
TSs are women in their minds, by a genetic quirk a chromosome was pushed and they ended up with a penis instead of breasts and a vagina.
They no more associate with TVs than they do with men. A dress and wig do not make someone a woman.
But here's where the disconnect happens: in the eyes of porn and in the cocks of men who've watched porn, there isn't as much of a difference between TVs and TSs. So if you've jerked off to tranny porn for the last two decades, you've seen both and can easily fall in the same category as a sexual release.
We're not talking about men looking for a relationship, we're talking about guys looking to bust a nut and go home to their wife (like me).
A pretty TV decked out in seamed stockings, sexy heels and a nice dress who drops and sucks my cock will get my load because it's an extension of masturbatory fodder. I associate these things with tranny sex, TV style.
A pretty TS can be pretty much naked with a full load hormones coursing through their body and nice breasts and she can suck my cock too and I'll blow a load because it's tranny sex, TS style.
I jerked off to both because porn presented me both for a long time as the same thrill- I don't care- I'm doing this because its a forbidden thrill and I'm not much into distinction.
I'm blowing a load.
I get that men don't understand the big difference.
I don't think the ladies get that most of us just don't give a shit; most sex is often just an extension of the right hand in the first place...it's long form masturbation taken to the next level.

[loren]

loren is taking up for phobun cause there anal fuckin each other

let that bitch fend for hisself


knifes and cocks gets phobun so excited ,that he just can't hide it
phobun is about to lose control and I don't like it
Umm no, genius, I'm not taking up for phobun. I JUST DON'T LIKE YOU!:fu:

[britneymarkham]

some cross dressers honestly look better then some ovver done trannys

[a994]

this thread is pointless.
TSs will always look down upon TVs; it's a matter of "gender identity" not sex appeal.
TSs are women in their minds, by a genetic quirk a chromosome was pushed and they ended up with a penis instead of breasts and a vagina.
They no more associate with TVs than they do with men. A dress and wig do not make someone a woman.
But here's where the disconnect happens: in the eyes of porn and in the cocks of men who've watched porn, there isn't as much of a difference between TVs and TSs. So if you've jerked off to tranny porn for the last two decades, you've seen both and can easily fall in the same category as a sexual release.
We're not talking about men looking for a relationship, we're talking about guys looking to bust a nut and go home to their wife (like me).
A pretty TV decked out in seamed stockings, sexy heels and a nice dress who drops and sucks my cock will get my load because it's an extension of masturbatory fodder. I associate these things with tranny sex, TV style.
A pretty TS can be pretty much naked with a full load hormones coursing through their body and nice breasts and she can suck my cock too and I'll blow a load because it's tranny sex, TS style.
I jerked off to both because porn presented me both for a long time as the same thrill- I don't care- I'm doing this because its a forbidden thrill and I'm not much into distinction.
I'm blowing a load.
I get that men don't understand the big difference.
I don't think the ladies get that most of us just don't give a shit; most sex is often just an extension of the right hand in the first place...it's long form masturbation taken to the next level.


Speak for yourself man; I find crossdressers to be a HUGE turn-off. I can tell that a CD is a man and I'm therefore not turned on.

But that's just me.

[audifan]

Speak for yourself man; I find crossdressers to be a HUGE turn-off. I can tell that a CD is a man and I'm therefore not turned on.

But that's just me.

+1

And by sharing and discussing their views, the TS ladies here saved the thread from being pointless :)

Until recently when it degenerated into the usual pointless HA playground namecalling :(

[cheez]

Speak for yourself man; I find crossdressers to be a HUGE turn-off. I can tell that a CD is a man and I'm therefore not turned on.

But that's just me.


Yeah, yeah, I should've said a segment of the audience. But then again, unlike so many on this board I don't suck cock or bend over for anyone. I find that shit ten times gayer and repulsive, the action of actually submitting to a penis (so what that there are man made tits above it, it's still a male sex organ), so it all depends on your perspective...

[audifan]

Miriam set herself up for that, no offense but I don't find her to be a RESPECTABLE transwoman in anyway...

Yes she did, but it was a step up for her from porn to mainstream TV. And even when that program tried to portray her as a freakshow, she appeared dignified and beautiful IMO. It seems she wasn't able to sustain the momentum and make a permanent break from her previous life, and it all caught up with her.



A brick is someone with a OBVIOUSLY MASCULINE LOOK. Kinda like a Pro-athlete with a wig and implants.

Thank you.

[a994]

Until recently when it degenerated into the usual pointless HA playground namecalling :(

Just like every other thread here.

[scroller]

some cross dressers honestly look better then some ovver done trannys

Agreed. Also express more pure enjoyment and fewer issues/drama, which is sexy.

[BigDF]

...I don't think the ladies get that most of us just don't give a shit; most sex is often just an extension of the right hand in the first place...it's long form masturbation taken to the next level.The last of a much longer post, I found this tidbit. The inner workings of the male mind fascinate me and I often wonder about men who say things like this. What an empty, barren life they must lead reducing the act of physical love between two people to the solo act of masturbation. :(

[Paulistano]

Thumbs up. Nice post.

Thank you, Scroller.

I tried to do my best, but nobody has commented my work, only you!!!

And nobody gave me any information about the grul from group #5.

Can you help me on finding some info about her?

[cheez]

The last of a much longer post, I found this tidbit. The inner workings of the male mind fascinate me and I often wonder about men who say things like this. What an empty, barren life they must lead reducing the act of physical love between two people to the solo act of masturbation. :(

I was more describing the act of fantasy fulfillment as was the point of most of my post. Obviously long term relationships involve a much deeper connection.
However, meeting a TS or TV and just trying to blow a load that night is not really lovemaking, is it?
You have no real feelings for the person and if you're not looking for a relationship there's no emotional connection, so it's just a release and that is an extension of the act of masturbation to me.
I mean, when you hire an escort does she care about you? And do you care about her?
You want to compare that to having intense feelings for someone and making love, go right ahead.
I tend not to agree...

[MrsKellyPierce]

I was more describing the act of fantasy fulfillment as was the point of most of my post. Obviously long term relationships involve a much deeper connection.
However, meeting a TS or TV and just trying to blow a load that night is not really lovemaking, is it?
You have no real feelings for the person and if you're not looking for a relationship there's no emotional connection, so it's just a release and that is an extension of the act of masturbation to me.
I mean, when you hire an escort does she care about you? And do you care about her?
You want to compare that to having intense feelings for someone and making love, go right ahead.
I tend not to agree...
Cheez I think Sunshyne and the rest of girls were agreeing with this sentiment...Most men just don't care as long as they get close to their fantasy.

What we are complaining about is that they group us with CDs/DQs/TVs and call young girls starting transition CDs....A transsexual is not a crossdresser no matter if they don't have tits or not.

A cd's mindset and a transsexuals mindset are completely DIFFERENT.

Lastly, I fight for transsexual rights. Not CD/TV rights, because they don't really have their rights taken away. They still go to work as Peter, Paul, and Dick. And maybe dress at home or at a club. They might get stares or name called while in the garb, but they get to take it off and blend back into society.

A transsexual lives it because it's their needed gender. I keep hearing Crossdressers can be prettier than transsexuals. Well transsexuals can be more gorgeous than a woman.........SO What! There are lots of ugly ass women...and lots of ugly ass transsexuals....but their looks don't make them less than a woman or a transsexual.

I gave examples again of gay men who got boobs and one that looks like a gorgeous female with 34 D breast, but lives in real life as a gay man still. Looks has only a part in being a transsexual....it's whats in between the ears.

We don't care if the guy is fucking a CD, but don't sit there and group us in or say you are STRAIGHT. When you had sex with a man - they are men that live by day and put a wig on at night or for that instant. And then wonder why when you sit there and say you are 'straight' we laugh at you!

Men who are insecure are turning it into a hate thread. :loser::loser::loser::loser:

[phobun]

Cheez I think Sunshyne and the rest of girls were agreeing with this sentiment...Most men just don't care as long as they get close to their fantasy.

What we are complaining about is that they group us with CDs/DQs/TVs and call young girls starting transition CDs....A transsexual is not a crossdresser no matter if they don't have tits or not.

A cd's mindset and a transsexuals mindset are completely DIFFERENT.

Lastly, I fight for transsexual rights. Not CD/TV rights, because they don't really have their rights taken away. They still go to work as Peter, Paul, and Dick. And maybe dress at home or at a club. They might get stares or name called while in the garb, but they get to take it off and blend back into society.

A transsexual lives it because it's their needed gender. I keep hearing Crossdressers can be prettier than transsexuals. Well transsexuals can be more gorgeous than a woman.........SO What! There are lots of ugly ass women...and lots of ugly ass transsexuals....but their looks don't make them less than a woman or a transsexual.

I gave examples again of gay men who got boobs and one that looks like a gorgeous female with 34 D breast, but lives in real life as a gay man still. Looks has only a part in being a transsexual....it's whats in between the ears.

We don't care if the guy is fucking a CD, but don't sit there and group us in or say you are STRAIGHT. When you had sex with a man - they are men that live by day and put a wig on at night or for that instant. And then wonder why when you sit there and say you are 'straight' we laugh at you!

Men who are insecure are turning it into a hate thread. :loser::loser::loser::loser:


Very very well stated

[txjr3]

Wow - popular thread. Just thought I'd throw it out there - I like TS, passable CD, AND fat girls! LOL!

[dderek123]

The last of a much longer post, I found this tidbit. The inner workings of the male mind fascinate me and I often wonder about men who say things like this. What an empty, barren life they must lead reducing the act of physical love between two people to the solo act of masturbation. :(
Love with an escort? I don't think so.

You posted this on a pornography themed message board.

C'mon really are you even surprised? The male sex drive is a powerful thing indeed and is our main weakness.

[cheez]

Cheez I think Sunshyne and the rest of girls were agreeing with this sentiment...Most men just don't care as long as they get close to their fantasy.

What we are complaining about is that they group us with CDs/DQs/TVs and call young girls starting transition CDs....A transsexual is not a crossdresser no matter if they don't have tits or not.

A cd's mindset and a transsexuals mindset are completely DIFFERENT.

Lastly, I fight for transsexual rights. Not CD/TV rights, because they don't really have their rights taken away. They still go to work as Peter, Paul, and Dick. And maybe dress at home or at a club. They might get stares or name called while in the garb, but they get to take it off and blend back into society.

A transsexual lives it because it's their needed gender. I keep hearing Crossdressers can be prettier than transsexuals. Well transsexuals can be more gorgeous than a woman.........SO What! There are lots of ugly ass women...and lots of ugly ass transsexuals....but their looks don't make them less than a woman or a transsexual.

I gave examples again of gay men who got boobs and one that looks like a gorgeous female with 34 D breast, but lives in real life as a gay man still. Looks has only a part in being a transsexual....it's whats in between the ears.

We don't care if the guy is fucking a CD, but don't sit there and group us in or say you are STRAIGHT. When you had sex with a man - they are men that live by day and put a wig on at night or for that instant. And then wonder why when you sit there and say you are 'straight' we laugh at you!

Men who are insecure are turning it into a hate thread. :loser::loser::loser::loser:


But herein lies the problem. Up until I was on this website, I never knew there was a difference in the mindset.
What do I know of the difference between transition of as TS and a casual dresser if all I do is watch some porn and decide "oh that got me kind of hard and I'd like to do that in real life..." You certainly cannot deny that porn has lumped CDs and TSs together, so why would I think there is a difference if I'm a casual fan?
And if all I'm doing is blowing a load and I'm done in fifteen minutes do I really care?
You can't deny there are some incredibly attractive crossdressers out there, so if my choice is between an incredibly pretty crossdresser and a TS who maybe doesn't look that convincing (and sad to say there are many girls who don't have a great transition), how is it more gay to be with the more attractive of the two (when keep in mind, I'm not getting to know you and I'm not concerned with your mindset)??

[scroller]

Can you help me on finding some info about her?

Wish I could, but don't recognize her. Good luck. :-)

[amberskyi]

But herein lies the problem. Up until I was on this website, I never knew there was a difference in the mindset.
What do I know of the difference between transition of as TS and a casual dresser if all I do is watch some porn and decide "oh that got me kind of hard and I'd like to do that in real life..." You certainly cannot deny that porn has lumped CDs and TSs together, so why would I think there is a difference if I'm a casual fan?
And if all I'm doing is blowing a load and I'm done in fifteen minutes do I really care?
You can't deny there are some incredibly attractive crossdressers out there, so if my choice is between an incredibly pretty crossdresser and a TS who maybe doesn't look that convincing (and sad to say there are many girls who don't have a great transition), how is it more gay to be with the more attractive of the two (when keep in mind, I'm not getting to know you and I'm not concerned with your mindset)??

which is why i charge

[Paulistano]

What we are complaining about is that they group us with CDs/DQs/TVs and call young girls starting transition CDs....A transsexual is not a crossdresser no matter if they don't have tits or not.

A cd's mindset and a transsexuals mindset are completely DIFFERENT.

Lastly, I fight for transsexual rights.


Congratulations to your post, Kelly, you let us know exactly the meaning of this thread. Everything is clear to me now.

I would only consider one dark point of your reflection: “Men are grouping TS with CDs/DQs/TVs. And they are calling young girls starting transition as CDs”.

I’ve been having sexual experience with all these “groups” (for me they are just LABELS) since 1980. I had 4 (four) serious long term relationships with TS and got “married” to another one for about one year, which ended up 3 years ago.

I perfectly agree when you fight for transsexual rights. I’ve been doing this for many years, coz I really know how much I suffered with discrimination in my country. After officially assuming my transsexual “wife” to our hypocrite society, many old friends just turn off their back to me. I could die to prove the world it is POSSIBLE to have a decent life beside a transsexual, as a couple, but I wasn’t lucky enough coz I lost all battles I had, to the phantom of my life called “prostitution”. Yes, in my country 99% of TSs sell their bodies for a “better” life.

Dark point of your reflection is very controversial to me. That’s why I insist on asking people DO NOT PUT A LABEL on someone’s sexuality. They are just names. Recent studies made by a famous Brazilian Anthropologist have proved humanity was homosexual and bisexual at Stone Age. Church rules changed humanity sexual behavior, creating family homophobic concepts. Homosexuality is inside our basic instinct. It is inside all of us.

Going straight to the point, after 30 years dealing deeply with this subject, I can tell you every single man who has sexual relationship with CD/DQ/TV/TS (or even those “young girls starting transition”) has homosexual trends.
Including myself.

Otherwise we would be sleeping only with genetic women. Even post-op TSs have masculine characteristics that distinguish them from genetic women and attract men in a different way. I’ve met lots of them and still have many friends who did that surgery. And I have close friends who married them.

You are absolutely right when you say “Men who are insecure are turning it into a hate thread”. They MUST accept their sexual condition, but it’s not easy. I went to psychological therapy for almost 2 years and finally I started knowing myself.

I cannot consider myself a GAY guy, coz I don’t sleep with MEN, and I really hate the idea. But I can have sex, or even love any human been grouped by any label mentioned above. Few years ago we also were labeled as T-lovers! I hated that, coz I was confounded with all pervert kind of guys you can easily find online. And I was just looking after my true TS love.

I still hate LABELS. Maybe the closest one could define myself (and thousand other guys like me all over the world) would be “SEMI-GAY”. Hehehehehe. Look, it has nothing related to be top or bottom! A "semi-gay" like me can be both, and I feel very comfortable to say here that I’m only top because I tried to be bottom with my ex-wife and I really hated! But I have friends with very masculine stereotypes, who like to go out once in a while with TS or TV and like to be penetrated by them. I can call them "semi-gays" coz they would never sleep with a man, and they like genetic women as well.

Sorry to be that long with my poor English, guys.

Kelly… 100% straight guys don’t go to bed with transsexuals. When they say “it happened by accident”, they are lying! 90% of MEN feel attraction by a woman with penis. Only 3% admit that.

Please don’t generalize any category of men. A handsome gentle guy can spend a wonderful sex night beside a gorgeous CD and meet a wonderful TS like you next day, and make love with you for the rest of your lives!!!

Kisses!

[cheez]

and one final note and I'm being real here: if you guys told your friends, girlfriends, family, etc. "I'm gonna be seeing a transgendered girl, who's on hormones and has implants and a 7 inch penis," not whether they'd accept you or not (because that's not the point), but if they thought you were gay or at the very least bisexual.
Because I'd be willing to bet that 90% of them would think you were not straight.
And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.

[MrsKellyPierce]

and one final note and I'm being real here: if you guys told your friends, girlfriends, family, etc. "I'm gonna be seeing a transgendered girl, who's on hormones and has implants and a 7 inch penis," not whether they'd accept you or not (because that's not the point), but if they thought you were gay or at the very least bisexual.
Because I'd be willing to bet that 90% of them would think you were not straight.
And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.
Ummm do you tell them your gg girlfriend has a vagina?? GTFO

[MrsKellyPierce]

Congratulations to your post, Kelly, you let us know exactly the meaning of this thread. Everything is clear to me now.

I would only consider one dark point of your reflection: “Men are grouping TS with CDs/DQs/TVs. And they are calling young girls starting transition as CDs”.

I’ve been having sexual experience with all these “groups” (for me they are just LABELS) since 1980. I had 4 (four) serious long term relationships with TS and got “married” to another one for about one year, which ended up 3 years ago.

I perfectly agree when you fight for transsexual rights. I’ve been doing this for many years, coz I really know how much I suffered with discrimination in my country. After officially assuming my transsexual “wife” to our hypocrite society, many old friends just turn off their back to me. I could die to prove the world it is POSSIBLE to have a decent life beside a transsexual, as a couple, but I wasn’t lucky enough coz I lost all battles I had, to the phantom of my life called “prostitution”. Yes, in my country 99% of TSs sell their bodies for a “better” life.

Dark point of your reflection is very controversial to me. That’s why I insist on asking people DO NOT PUT A LABEL on someone’s sexuality. They are just names. Recent studies made by a famous Brazilian Anthropologist have proved humanity was homosexual and bisexual at Stone Age. Church rules changed humanity sexual behavior, creating family homophobic concepts. Homosexuality is inside our basic instinct. It is inside all of us.

Going straight to the point, after 30 years dealing deeply with this subject, I can tell you every single man who has sexual relationship with CD/DQ/TV/TS (or even those “young girls starting transition”) has homosexual trends.
Including myself.

Otherwise we would be sleeping only with genetic women. Even post-op TSs have masculine characteristics that distinguish them from genetic women and attract men in a different way. I’ve met lots of them and still have many friends who did that surgery. And I have close friends who married them.

You are absolutely right when you say “Men who are insecure are turning it into a hate thread”. They MUST accept their sexual condition, but it’s not easy. I went to psychological therapy for almost 2 years and finally I started knowing myself.

I cannot consider myself a GAY guy, coz I don’t sleep with MEN, and I really hate the idea. But I can have sex, or even love any human been grouped by any label mentioned above. Few years ago we also were labeled as T-lovers! I hated that, coz I was confounded with all pervert kind of guys you can easily find online. And I was just looking after my true TS love.

I still hate LABELS. Maybe the closest one could define myself (and thousand other guys like me all over the world) would be “SEMI-GAY”. Hehehehehe. Look, it has nothing related to be top or bottom! A "semi-gay" like me can be both, and I feel very comfortable to say here that I’m only top because I tried to be bottom with my ex-wife and I really hated! But I have friends with very masculine stereotypes, who like to go out once in a while with TS or TV and like to be penetrated by them. I can call them "semi-gays" coz they would never sleep with a man, and they like genetic women as well.

Sorry to be that long with my poor English, guys.

Kelly… 100% straight guys don’t go to bed with transsexuals. When they say “it happened by accident”, they are lying! 90% of MEN feel attraction by a woman with penis. Only 3% admit that.

Please don’t generalize any category of men. A handsome gentle guy can spend a wonderful sex night beside a gorgeous CD and meet a wonderful TS like you next day, and make love with you for the rest of your lives!!!

Kisses!
I am married, and never dated a man that was interested in a CD :)

All the guys I dated are TITS or get out lol not saying that if you don't you are a crossdresser...

But that was all my ex's and my hubby's lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

Transsexual pay their dues to society and transitioning...CROSSDRESSERS/TRANSVESTITES DON'T!!! They live as MEN!!

To the men

YouTube - Anastacia - Paid My Dues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUTRUovNb0)

[Paulistano]

I am married, .....

What bad news!

I was just thinkin' about inviting you for a dinner on my next trip to US!!!

I told u I'm not a lucky guy........

[natina]

And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis OR HAD YOUR PENIS INVERTED, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.


and one final note and I'm being real here: if you guys told your friends, girlfriends, family, etc. "I'm gonna be seeing a transgendered girl, who's on hormones and has implants and a 7 inch penis," not whether they'd accept you or not (because that's not the point), but if they thought you were gay or at the very least bisexual.
Because I'd be willing to bet that 90% of them would think you were not straight.
And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.

[Silcc69]

And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis OR HAD YOUR PENIS INVERTED, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.

We shall stick to our little circle here then.

[tsparisangelline]

We shall stick to our little circle here then.

right......

[cheez]

Ummm do you tell them your gg girlfriend has a vagina?? GTFO

No but then again that's pretty much standard issue on GGs, isn't it? It would be implied...
Rest assured, I wouldn't have to tell them you have a penis, it would be fairly obvious.
In any case, many of you are missing the point.
In your zeal to condemn TV sex as somehow unequivocally "gay" you're kind of using the same standard most of the straight world would in judging TS. You don't understand the world, but it's easier to just decide because you're not part with that particular world, it's just weird and thus odd and unnatural.
After being on this board, I have no doubt most of you are mentally women- most of you are easily as big a pain in the ass as any genetic girl I've ever met.
But I've also dealt with some TVs who are just as feminine if not more than some girls I've met at the NYC parties. And I'm sorry but just having a couple of sacks of silicone on your chest means nothing. Just as there are plenty of trannies who come off as sexy as topping truck drivers, there are plenty of genetic girls who've got a-cups and can't fill out a training bra.
Tits aren't proof of anything, really.
I only wish I could find the pics of Kelly Shore when she was on some dude's blog way back when, like ten, eleven years ago (was it pretty hot and tranny?) and all she had was some makeup and a dress on.
I guess if a guy found her attractive back then he was gay, but once she got the implants then he would be straight?
Is that the logic we're using?
And then I'm sure some guy will come on this thread talking about how beautiful and perfect these girls are and then say "can I get a cock pic??"
Don't you girls get tired of the appeasers in these threads? Seriously, Neville Chamberlain was John Rambo compared to most of these whiny ass bitch bottoms.

[BellaBellucci]

YouTube - little britain usa emily howard arrested (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JUd0WQM6D8)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM1gDHzS_8&has_verified=1)

I think we're done here. Can we move on please?

~BB~

[MrsKellyPierce]

No but then again that's pretty much standard issue on GGs, isn't it? It would be implied...
Rest assured, I wouldn't have to tell them you have a penis, it would be fairly obvious.
In any case, many of you are missing the point.
In your zeal to condemn TV sex as somehow unequivocally "gay" you're kind of using the same standard most of the straight world would in judging TS. You don't understand the world, but it's easier to just decide because you're not part with that particular world, it's just weird and thus odd and unnatural.
After being on this board, I have no doubt most of you are mentally women- most of you are easily as big a pain in the ass as any genetic girl I've ever met.
But I've also dealt with some TVs who are just as feminine if not more than some girls I've met at the NYC parties. And I'm sorry but just having a couple of sacks of silicone on your chest means nothing. Just as there are plenty of trannies who come off as sexy as topping truck drivers, there are plenty of genetic girls who've got a-cups and can't fill out a training bra.
Tits aren't proof of anything, really.
I only wish I could find the pics of Kelly Shore when she was on some dude's blog way back when, like ten, eleven years ago (was it pretty hot and tranny?) and all she had was some makeup and a dress on.
I guess if a guy found her attractive back then he was gay, but once she got the implants then he would be straight?
Is that the logic we're using?
And then I'm sure some guy will come on this thread talking about how beautiful and perfect these girls are and then say "can I get a cock pic??"
Don't you girls get tired of the appeasers in these threads? Seriously, Neville Chamberlain was John Rambo compared to most of these whiny ass bitch bottoms.Really?? I have never been clocked...lol NEVER...I go to my husbands law events, met his family, to take our step daughter to childhood places (and kids can clock a tranny first), and more nobody has ever said THATS A TRANNY or A MAN or does that person have a penis - hmm not even when I was on Maury...during bikini it was said I was the only female on stage...so doll are you trying to READ? I think you are QUEEN!... You make me laugh...And secondly I am not hating on girls that don't have boobs...I am saying no matter what if they feel they aren't their right gender and were born in the wrong body...THEY ARE TS not CROSSDRESSERS...A transsexual was NEVER A CROSSDRESSER!!! NEVER! A crossdresser does it for fun/sex/play....a transsexual feels they are trapped in the wrong body and believe they are the opposite gender than what they are born. So whether they look like A trucker in drag or not they are still TS! Thats nice that you want to post old pics I have been living as a girl since age 12..............I will post one for you...that was before implants just hormones............

Boobs don't make you a TS - I obviously posted two drag performers who got breast - but both still indentify and live as gay men....

[cheez]

I won't even bother with Bella's goofiness.
As to Kelly, the Maury audience is your barometer? Really?
That group has the IQ and detection skills of ten pounds of monkey crap in a five pound bag. Really, there is bacteria forming in my shower that's got a better reasoning capability...
But I also note you are super sensitive to the merest hint of your non-passability. As if being somehow passable makes a big difference (BTW most people aren't going to just come up and say "how are you doing Sir? Nice dress." Even if they did "clock" you, they'd probably not make a big deal of it.)
And I'm not saying that there's any comparison between TS and CD, simply that just as I don't understand your mindset, you don't necessarily understand theirs and that you girls seem ridiculous when you seem to decide you know everybody else's mindset.
I just find that silly.

[Jackal]

YouTube - little britain usa emily howard arrested (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JUd0WQM6D8)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM1gDHzS_8&has_verified=1)

I think we're done here. Can we move on please?

~BB~
alyssa is gorgeous, look at those legs, thighs and curves all in lingere, thats sexy!

[MrsKellyPierce]

I won't even bother with Bella's goofiness.
As to Kelly, the Maury audience is your barometer? Really?
That group has the IQ and detection skills of ten pounds of monkey crap in a five pound bag. Really, there is bacteria forming in my shower that's got a better reasoning capability...
But I also note you are super sensitive to the merest hint of your non-passability. As if being somehow passable makes a big difference (BTW most people aren't going to just come up and say "how are you doing Sir? Nice dress." Even if they did "clock" you, they'd probably not make a big deal of it.)
And I'm not saying that there's any comparison between TS and CD, simply that just as I don't understand your mindset, you don't necessarily understand theirs and that you girls seem ridiculous when you seem to decide you know everybody else's mindset.
I just find that silly.LOL your only defense was attacking the Maury show lmao!!! First off a little kid will ask is that or are you a boy or girl. Or mom that's a boy. I have seen it happen with trans friends. My husband's colleagues would surely talk! That would be good gossip. I have my B.S. in psychology - have gone to speak and talk to transgender groups most were crossdressers. Not because of appearance but how they identified themselves as such. I did drag shows and know most draw queens and crossdressers will tell a curious straight boy anything to get him to give up the candy.... They will say yeah I plan on getting on hormones, yeah I'm a TS even, and more.
lol you obviously have slept with a crossdresser or two and trying to save face.

[yodajazz]

Really?? I have never been clocked...lol NEVER...I go to my husbands law events, met his family, to take our step daughter to childhood places (and kids can clock a tranny first), and more nobody has ever said THATS A TRANNY or A MAN or does that person have a penis - hmm not even when I was on Maury...during bikini it was said I was the only female on stage...so doll are you trying to READ? I think you are QUEEN!... You make me laugh...And secondly I am not hating on girls that don't have boobs...I am saying no matter what if they feel they aren't their right gender and were born in the wrong body...THEY ARE TS not CROSSDRESSERS...A transsexual was NEVER A CROSSDRESSER!!! NEVER! A crossdresser does it for fun/sex/play....a transsexual feels they are trapped in the wrong body and believe they are the opposite gender than what they are born. So whether they look like A trucker in drag or not they are still TS! Thats nice that you want to post old pics I have been living as a girl since age 12..............I will post one for you...that was before implants just hormones............

Boobs don't make you a TS - I obviously posted two drag performers who got breast - but both still indentify and live as gay men....

OK ladies, here’s a situation. You meet a well dressed man at the club, he is spending plenty of money at the bar. You meet him, he is nice, and talks about his job, a the law firm. Being in a good frame of mind, and just what you are looking for, you assume he is ‘fulltime’. For you women, “fulltime", means having a full-time job. You go home with him to his apartment. As he is taking off his clothes, you notice what appear to be a stack credit card bills, next to the phone. Over in the corner, is a partially covered red eviction notice. Then you realize, he is only a part-timer, (probably only 16 hrs a week, or something). But since you are already there, and horny, you decide to let the good times roll. As you leave, you think to yourself; “That was great, but I couldn’t live, with being caught in public with him, during working hours; just too embarrasing” .

So my point is, you cannot always tell a part timer, from a full timer, when you first meet them. Gotcha, this time, Kelly!

[goku]

LOL your only defense was attacking the Maury show lmao!!! First off a little kid will ask is that or are you a boy or girl. Or mom that's a boy. I have seen it happen with trans friends. My husband's colleagues would surely talk! That would be good gossip. I have my B.S. in psychology - have gone to speak and talk to transgender groups most were crossdressers. Not because of appearance but how they identified themselves as such. I did drag shows and know most draw queens and crossdressers will tell a curious straight boy anything to get him to give up the candy.... They will say yeah I plan on getting on hormones, yeah I'm a TS even, and more.
lol you obviously have slept with a crossdresser or two and trying to save face.



Kelly,


The whole argument started from a girl "guessing" who is, or isn't, transgender, simply by what they look like. Here is the sentence...


"So i have been pretty hard on guys here and other places that like cdz"-Sunshyne


Now, she said "on here". She does not personally know the girls(or whatever they are) on here that the guys are looking at, but she is assuming the girls they are looking at, are CDs. That is the part none of the girls seem to be addressing, that most of the guys arguing are trying to say.

How can you tell someone is a CD from just a picture? In some cases, I agree you can, but in others, its impossible without knowing them. We are simply assuming what they are because they don't really have work done.

That is why guys are getting angry. They see the double standard being applied, when most of yall were in their shoes a few years ago.


Then girls argue back and forth with each other all the time about where they are in their transition. The whole thing is just ugly, and an eyesore in the TS community. Their is no bond in this community, it's every woman for herself. Yall have a bad rap for being ugly towards others. Someone has to turn the shit around, and it's not helping saying every girl who doesn't have D-cups overflowing her bra, and sil all over her body is a CD.

[TsVanessa69]

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i love when porch monkeys talk about my looks

[Paulistano]

A transsexual was NEVER A CROSSDRESSER!!! NEVER!

I'm so sorry, but I have to desagree with you, Kelly.

I've met many transexuals who were GAYS, after a while become CROSSDRESSERS, and many years later turned into TRANSEXUALS. Some of them went into sex change surgery.

Do you think Brazilians are different from Americans???

Images from an exemple speak themselves:

[phobun]

OK ladies, here’s a situation. You meet a well dressed man at the club, he is spending plenty of money at the bar. You meet him, he is nice, and talks about his job, a the law firm. Being in a good frame of mind, and just what you are looking for, you assume he is ‘fulltime’. For you women, “fulltime", means having a full-time job. You go home with him to his apartment. As he is taking off his clothes, you notice what appear to be a stack credit card bills, next to the phone. Over in the corner, is a partially covered red eviction notice. Then you realize, he is only a part-timer, (probably only 16 hrs a week, or something). But since you are already there, and horny, you decide to let the good times roll. As you leave, you think to yourself; “That was great, but I couldn’t live, with being caught in public with him, during working hours; just too embarrasing” .

So my point is, you cannot always tell a part timer, from a full timer, when you first meet them. Gotcha, this time, Kelly!


Not a very good analogy.

[toopretty]

I like ts women. I think they appealing in many ways. I view them as women and I think being transgender is completely normal and Im glad they have pride...

but this is ridiculous. The best things about tgirls are fake and they are not any better than anybody and shouldn't act like it. There is no difference between ts/tv/cd/...whatever, in your head you might think so but, in the grand scheme of things, its all the same. cd's, tv's and ts's are all just a person, born a man, who is "being" a woman. some just do it all day, everyday and some just do it every once in a while (cd's). Im not trying to insult anyone but some of y'alls "self concept" (for lack of a better word) is a bit off.

[phobun]

How can you tell someone is a CD from just a picture? In some cases, I agree you can, but in others, its impossible without knowing them. We are simply assuming what they are because they don't really have work done.

That is why guys are getting angry. They see the double standard being applied, when most of yall were in their shoes a few years ago.


When a girl points out the obvious (perhaps not obvious to a chaser whose mind is clouded by testosterone-fueled fantasies), the guy gets mad.

The guy is not getting mad because of any "double standard"... the are getting mad for reasons that are much more base and non-conscious, reasons that are much more of a threat to his id.

They are getting mad for being made to feel gay or as lesser men while they pursue pleasure and fantasy.

The "double standard" argument requires too much reason and higher thinking. This injury is occurring in a very primitive recess of the chaser's mind... at that moment, most of these guys probably can't imagine a pretty TS as ever having transitioned. The chaser's beef is not about someone else and any sort of hypocrisy, it is purely about what the implication of calling someone else a CD means to the chaser.

The chaser is acting purely out of self-interest when he gets upset at someone being called a CD.

[tsparisangelline]

Q. What is the difference between transsexuals and crossdressers?

A. A crossdresser enjoys wearing clothes worn only by the other sex. Crossdressing is usually done on a part-time basis, and for the most part they have no desire to change their sex. The majority of crossdressers are heterosexual men.

http://www.dupontbglad.com/Transgender_Focus/transgender_focus.html

[tsparisangelline]

I'm so sorry, but I have to desagree with you, Kelly.

I've met many transexuals who were GAYS, after a while become CROSSDRESSERS, and many years later turned into TRANSEXUALS. Some of them went into sex change surgery.

Do you think Brazilians are different from Americans???

Images from an exemple speak themselves:

Ummm you really cannot read anything Kelly says can you?

You are an incompetent fool and your knowledge on the subject you supposedly have an interest in is minor at best.

Keep away from the topic if you have no knowledge of the different sects under the transgender label!

[BellaBellucci]

I hate to agree with Phobun... but I do. Weird.

~BB~

[amberskyi]

I like ts women. I think they appealing in many ways. I view them as women and I think being transgender is completely normal and Im glad they have pride...

but this is ridiculous. The best things about tgirls are fake and they are not any better than anybody and shouldn't act like it. There is no difference between ts/tv/cd/...whatever, in your head you might think so but, in the grand scheme of things, its all the same. cd's, tv's and ts's are all just a person, born a man, who is "being" a woman. some just do it all day, everyday and some just do it every once in a while (cd's). Im not trying to insult anyone but some of y'alls "self concept" (for lack of a better word) is a bit off.

fuck out here,im not "being" a woman.i am a woman.period.
p.s. there is nothing fake om me,its all natural.maybe some girls are made up of plastic bits...

[TSLexiWade]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcq-nND7yVQ

[cheez]

LOL your only defense was attacking the Maury show lmao!!! First off a little kid will ask is that or are you a boy or girl. Or mom that's a boy. I have seen it happen with trans friends. My husband's colleagues would surely talk! That would be good gossip. I have my B.S. in psychology - have gone to speak and talk to transgender groups most were crossdressers. Not because of appearance but how they identified themselves as such. I did drag shows and know most draw queens and crossdressers will tell a curious straight boy anything to get him to give up the candy.... They will say yeah I plan on getting on hormones, yeah I'm a TS even, and more.
lol you obviously have slept with a crossdresser or two and trying to save face.

No, I pointed out the Maury show is a ridiculous barometer, which it is. You ignored my statement about when you appeared on websites more than a decade ago without any surgery for all intents and purposes just looked like a crossdresser...

I've admitted I like CDs before. Ain't no face saving going on. Some TSs look like truckdrivers and some CDs look like models and vice versa. If I'm out for a night and just looking for a pickup, I'm looking for the prettiest I can find. If it happens to be a very feminine CD, then so what? I'm not asking anybody what stage they're at in their life. I remember when I met Leora Moore a few years back before she got her boobs-cute, flatchested and so sweet. I didn't give a shit what stage she was at, she was the most feminine, sweetest girl I met. Ten times sweeter and prettier than girls who were much further along.
I also don't think you can speak for everyone's motives and automatically decide what's gay or not and even if you want to, whether anyone should care.
Because you know everybody at your husband's job would think he was pretty gay if they ever saw one of your videos. I mean let's face it, there's dozens of hours of you pounding guys into pudding. One would have to assume your hubby's a pillowbiter based on what you do for a living...

[MrsKellyPierce]

OK ladies, here’s a situation. You meet a well dressed man at the club, he is spending plenty of money at the bar. You meet him, he is nice, and talks about his job, a the law firm. Being in a good frame of mind, and just what you are looking for, you assume he is ‘fulltime’. For you women, “fulltime", means having a full-time job. You go home with him to his apartment. As he is taking off his clothes, you notice what appear to be a stack credit card bills, next to the phone. Over in the corner, is a partially covered red eviction notice. Then you realize, he is only a part-timer, (probably only 16 hrs a week, or something). But since you are already there, and horny, you decide to let the good times roll. As you leave, you think to yourself; “That was great, but I couldn’t live, with being caught in public with him, during working hours; just too embarrasing” .

So my point is, you cannot always tell a part timer, from a full timer, when you first meet them. Gotcha, this time, Kelly! Then you would be there under false pre-tenses...like the story I told about the guy who believed he was going home with a tranny..because she was pretty in the garb. Then started taking it off to have sex...and the guy dipped out after finding it was all an illusion....I think a lot of girls would do the same in the situation you speak of. And if you just don't care it means you aren't straight...you are either bisexual or pansexual.


Kelly,


The whole argument started from a girl "guessing" who is, or isn't, transgender, simply by what they look like. Here is the sentence...


"So i have been pretty hard on guys here and other places that like cdz"-Sunshyne


Now, she said "on here". She does not personally know the girls(or whatever they are) on here that the guys are looking at, but she is assuming the girls they are looking at, are CDs. That is the part none of the girls seem to be addressing, that most of the guys arguing are trying to say.

How can you tell someone is a CD from just a picture? In some cases, I agree you can, but in others, its impossible without knowing them. We are simply assuming what they are because they don't really have work done.

That is why guys are getting angry. They see the double standard being applied, when most of yall were in their shoes a few years ago.


Then girls argue back and forth with each other all the time about where they are in their transition. The whole thing is just ugly, and an eyesore in the TS community. Their is no bond in this community, it's every woman for herself. Yall have a bad rap for being ugly towards others. Someone has to turn the shit around, and it's not helping saying every girl who doesn't have D-cups overflowing her bra, and sil all over her body is a CD. Are we talking about going off pictures? I am speaking of how a person identifies themselve. Even in conversation you can tell a transsexual from a CD.....

[MrsKellyPierce]

I'm so sorry, but I have to desagree with you, Kelly.

I've met many transexuals who were GAYS, after a while become CROSSDRESSERS, and many years later turned into TRANSEXUALS. Some of them went into sex change surgery.

Do you think Brazilians are different from Americans???

Images from an exemple speak themselves:
Doll it looks to me that they are young transsexuals going through the questioning game....

Much like a gay man/lesbian go through it.

But obviously FELT FEMALE.....

OR they did for other purposes like money/escorting....

Erika Norell has tits too and is a pretty lady, but lives as a boy with her husband.......she doesn't identify as a trans-woman!

AND AGAIN NOBODY IS STATING THEY ARE BETTER THAN A CROSSDRESSER...DON'T PUT WORDS IN OUR MOUTHS. WE ARE STATING THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT AND SHOULDN'T BE GROUPED WITH US. WE LIVE OUR LIFE DAILY - WE GET DISCRIMINATED AGAINST - WE DON'T GET HIRED ON AT JOBS......A CROSSDRESSER DOESN'T DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES THEY GO TO WORK AS PAUL/GRANT/TOM WHAT-HAVE-YOU....

AND JUST BECAUSE A TRANSSEXUAL IS UGLY DON'T MAKE THEM NOT A TRANSSEXUAL!!!!!!!!! IF THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO BE THEM - MORE POWER TO THEM!

AGAIN YOU INSECURE MEN, BECAUSE YOU SLEPT WITH A CROSSDRESSER ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE MEANING..........

LASTLY! I LOVE HOW YOU MEN TRY TO PIN US UP AGAINST ONE ANOTHER....

I WOULD POINT AND LAUGH IF A GUY SLEPT WITH SOME FAT UGLY CHICK FOR SOME SEX TOO...ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE DESPERATE AND HORNY AND AS LONG AS THEIR FRIENDS DON'T FIND OUT WHO CARES........

AND ARMY BOYS DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR MONEY - WHO CAN FUCK THE BIGGEST FAT CHICK...

SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE OF US LAUGHING AT A GUY BEING DESPERATE TO SLEEP WITH ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A TRANSSEXUAL TO FULFILL HIS FANTASY...WHICH IT LEAVES THEM AT LEAST MOST DISATISFIED....

[BigDF]

Lord, Kelly, you're a patient one, aren't you? :Bowdown: And, hey, all you guys that keep baiting Kelly over what she is saying, try reading her stuff a little closer since she's been saying the same thing this whole time and hasn't changed her position one bit. While it's amusing to watch you all keep:banghead get a grip on life a little. Live your own life and quit worrying about who's screwing what.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Okay new hypothetical YODA say Goku looked like a hot woman after I dressed him up...would you fuck him?

[goku]

Are we talking about going off pictures? I am speaking of how a person identifies themselve. Even in conversation you can tell a transsexual from a CD.....



Sunshyne is assuming that individuals on here like CDs simply by the pictures of the people on the amateur thread. That is guessing. Here is her statement.

"So i have been pretty hard on guys here and other places that like cdz"-Sunshyne


By guys on here, she is saying by the content the guys here look at. We know nothing about those pictures other than they are of people who don't have a lot of work done. Whether or not they are in transition is just an assumption at this point.

I agree that you can tell a CD by conversation. I have a friend who is transitioning, but jerks off to women's clothing. Even though she has breasts, she is still not TS. However, unless you have a good heart-felt convo with her, you would never know. Asking guys to be able to differentiate between CDs and Ts in photos is ridiculous.

[bte]

I have a friend who is transitioning, but jerks off to women's clothing. Even though she has breasts, she is still not TS.

How come she is not considered a TS? She is transitioning and has breasts. Just because she is jacks off to women's clothing doesn't make her less of a TS, considering she is transitioning and has breasts and you stated she was a she instead of a he.

[audifan]

... I have a friend who is transitioning, but jerks off to women's clothing. Even though she has breasts, she is still not TS. However, unless you have a good heart-felt convo with her, you would never know. Asking guys to be able to differentiate between CDs and Ts in photos is ridiculous.

If she is transitioning, how can you say she is "still not TS"? That's judging purely by appearances which is no judgement at all. A good drag queen can look beautiful, but is still a man. As far as I understand it, being TS is all between the ears, and some TS never transition at all. Others will be awkward at the beginning of transition, and may even appear similar to some CD's, but still be completely different inside.

Seems to me it all comes down to whether you care about what's inside, boy or girl; or whether you don't. Someone just looking to bust a nut and leave just seems more likely not to notice or care.

[amberskyi]

How come she is not considered a TS? She is transitioning and has breasts. Just because she is jacks off to women's clothing doesn't make her less of a TS, considering she is transitioning and has breasts and you stated she was a she instead of a he.

depends on if she considers herself a woman or not.i dont think people seem to be getting the gist of what has been blatantly said over and over again on her.the difference between transsexual women and a cd isnt not based on the physical.a ts knows shes a woman while a cd/dq still considers himself a man.
im not sure if anyone seen or remembers this but tyra banks had a show awhile back on transtasia (a transsexual beauty pagent).there was one contestant on there named terry who was gorgeous.she was almost completely transitioned,super passable, and curvy.she said however that she considers herself a femael impersonator and not a women and infact when she dies she wants to be buried as a man.

[bte]

depends on if she considers herself a woman or not.i dont think people seem to be getting the gist of what has been blatantly said over and over again on her.the difference between transsexual women and a cd isnt not based on the physical.a ts knows shes a woman while a cd/dq still considers himself a man.
im not sure if anyone seen or remembers this but tyra banks had a show awhile back on transtasia (a transsexual beauty pagent).there was one contestant on there named terry who was gorgeous.she was almost completely transitioned,super passable, and curvy.she said however that she considers herself a femael impersonator and not a women and infact when she dies she wants to be buried as a man.

True, though if a man is transitioning into a woman, why wouldn't she refer to herself as a woman? I mean the act of transitioning (which I assume she is taking hormones) and having breasts would imply that she considers herself as a woman and not a man.

[Jericho]

What we need now is for a GG to come into the thread and really start stirring the water! :whistle:

[amberskyi]

True, though if a man is transitioning into a woman, why wouldn't she refer to herself as a woman? I mean the act of transitioning (which I assume she is taking hormones) and having breasts would imply that she considers herself as a woman and not a man.

"she" said it made getting done up for pageants and shows much easier.i guess if thats your lively hood than you do whatever it takes,i dont know.
on another note you have no idea how many girls i know who started to transition for all the wrong reasons.some of them did it for money,attention or to get straight guys (believe it or not smh lol).what ever the case maybe in a few years these "girls" end up going back to living as men or just dress up occasionally.
im starting to understand though that very few guys in general and especially on here are interested in ts girls as women.its a fetish,so i guess any visual representation will do.
if a guy is truely interested in woman not only would he know/understand the difference but it would matter to him as well.

[Odelay]

"she" said it made getting done up for pageants and shows much easier.i guess if thats your lively hood than you do whatever it takes,i dont know.
on another note you have no idea how many girls i know who started to transition for all the wrong reasons.some of them did it for money,attention or to get straight guys (believe it or not smh lol).what ever the case maybe in a few years these "girls" end up going back to living as men or just dress up occasionally.
im starting to understand though that very few guys in general and especially on here are interested in ts girls as women.its a fetish,so i guess any visual representation will do.
if a guy is truely interested in woman not only would he know/understand the difference but it would matter to him as well.
Amber, I have to say that I find myself agreeing with just about everything you write in this forum. :Bowdown:

[amberskyi]

Amber, I have to say that I find myself agreeing with just about everything you write in this forum. :Bowdown:

lol,thanks boo :)

[DarylWashington]

Met this Asian CD at the club last Saturday night, took her home right away! :fuckin:

[audifan]

"she" said it made getting done up for pageants and shows much easier.i guess if thats your lively hood than you do whatever it takes,i dont know.
on another note you have no idea how many girls i know who started to transition for all the wrong reasons.some of them did it for money,attention or to get straight guys (believe it or not smh lol).what ever the case maybe in a few years these "girls" end up going back to living as men or just dress up occasionally.
im starting to understand though that very few guys in general and especially on here are interested in ts girls as women.its a fetish,so i guess any visual representation will do.
if a guy is truely interested in woman not only would he know/understand the difference but it would matter to him as well.

Well that makes sense to me, and maybe explains Paulistano's earlier post about young apparently gay guys going on later to become TS. I agree with what you say about this board, and about those to whom the difference does matter.

[Paulistano]

Doll it looks to me that they are young transsexuals going through the questioning game....

Much like a gay man/lesbian go through it.

But obviously FELT FEMALE.....

OR they did for other purposes like money/escorting....

Erika Norell has tits too and is a pretty lady, but lives as a boy with her husband.......she doesn't identify as a trans-woman!

AND AGAIN NOBODY IS STATING THEY ARE BETTER THAN A CROSSDRESSER...DON'T PUT WORDS IN OUR MOUTHS. WE ARE STATING THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT AND SHOULDN'T BE GROUPED WITH US. WE LIVE OUR LIFE DAILY - WE GET DISCRIMINATED AGAINST - WE DON'T GET HIRED ON AT JOBS......A CROSSDRESSER DOESN'T DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES THEY GO TO WORK AS PAUL/GRANT/TOM WHAT-HAVE-YOU....

AND JUST BECAUSE A TRANSSEXUAL IS UGLY DON'T MAKE THEM NOT A TRANSSEXUAL!!!!!!!!! IF THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO BE THEM - MORE POWER TO THEM!

AGAIN YOU INSECURE MEN, BECAUSE YOU SLEPT WITH A CROSSDRESSER ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE MEANING..........

LASTLY! I LOVE HOW YOU MEN TRY TO PIN US UP AGAINST ONE ANOTHER....

I WOULD POINT AND LAUGH IF A GUY SLEPT WITH SOME FAT UGLY CHICK FOR SOME SEX TOO...ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE DESPERATE AND HORNY AND AS LONG AS THEIR FRIENDS DON'T FIND OUT WHO CARES........

AND ARMY BOYS DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR MONEY - WHO CAN FUCK THE BIGGEST FAT CHICK...

SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE OF US LAUGHING AT A GUY BEING DESPERATE TO SLEEP WITH ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A TRANSSEXUAL TO FULFILL HIS FANTASY...WHICH IT LEAVES THEM AT LEAST MOST DISATISFIED....



There’s a huge misunderstanding in here. Title of this thread is:

“MEN THAT F*CK CD’S”

MEN are the aim of this topic. Not girls.

Is that clear to you?

Well… as a MAN, I just got interested on this OLD and NONSENSE discussion which ends up nowhere, by curiosity. It could be interesting for me to see how things work in US, compared to Brazil. I used to have a forum like this 4 years ago, and the same issue has caused us headaches, especially coz people get upset and aggressive, as far as they cannot deal with someone’s different opinion. Offenses are unacceptable for me and we had to ban few members at that time, after aggressive behavior. The same happens in here, unfortunately.

I like you, Kelly. You are really educated and have clear knowledge in what you say. That’s why I’m gonna ask you to focus on the title of thread by the moment. Could you do that for me, please?

We are labeled by society exactly like this:

100% of men who sleep only with genetic women are STRAIGHT GUYS
100% of men who sleep with women and men are NOT STRAIGHT GUYS
100% of men who sleep only with men are NOT STRAIGHT GUYS
100% of men who sleep with women and crossdressers are NOT STRAIGHT GUYS
100% of men who sleep with women and travesties are NOT STRAIGHT GUYS
100% of men who sleep with women and transsexuals are NOT STRAIGHT GUYS
100% of men who sleep with women and drag queens are NOT STRAIGHT GUYS
100% of men who sleep only with CDs/TVs/TSs/DQs are NOT STRAIGHT GUYS

Society just doesn’t care if a transsexual still has her penis or not, if she has feminine mind or not, if she was born and been created as a girl or not. A man who sleeps with a transsexual is always called NOT STRAIGHT GUY.

I can say that coz I was “married” with a transsexual for a year and have assumed her to the society. I know what discrimination is, dear Kelly. My experience with 4 other TS girlfriends enforces my testimony. I was LABELED NOT STRAIGHT by our hypocrite society since then.

You know what? I really don’t care! I don’t give a shit about anyone’s opinion about my sexual option. The point is… Society classifies men in 2 distint groups:

STRAIGHT GUYS – NON STRAIGHT GUYS

Am I wrong?

Ok…following the subject of the topic, what I’m trying to say in here is: Please, don’t feel offended by been grouped with CD’s, DQ’s, TV’s or even gays. I do know there are differences between them! We are talking about “Man that f*ck CD’s”. They are grouped on NON STRAIGHT GUYS by our society. “Man that f*ck TS’s” belong to the same group, according to the same society. Simple like that!

If there’s a man in this planet who respects, admires and considers Transsexuals as real Women, this man is me! And I love to argue with a clever woman like you. I wish my English could be better… so sorry for that!

[cheez]

depends on if she considers herself a woman or not.i dont think people seem to be getting the gist of what has been blatantly said over and over again on her.the difference between transsexual women and a cd isnt not based on the physical.a ts knows shes a woman while a cd/dq still considers himself a man.
im not sure if anyone seen or remembers this but tyra banks had a show awhile back on transtasia (a transsexual beauty pagent).there was one contestant on there named terry who was gorgeous.she was almost completely transitioned,super passable, and curvy.she said however that she considers herself a femael impersonator and not a women and infact when she dies she wants to be buried as a man.

i don't think that's the problem at all. i think the problem is the girls are upset that any pretty face will do for a horny guy looking for release.
It doesn't matter that some CD considers himself a man if he's the most feminine and attractive and girlish person some horny dude meets that night.
I know that many CDs are very mannish and carry themselves like men in a dress, which is what they are.
And some don't.
Some are obviously not heterosexual, some may get lost in the fantasy of being a woman for an hour or two and some may get off on simply having human sexual contact while dressed.
Part of the allure of a really well dressed CD is what they're wearing- men jerk off to objects as well- have you ever seen shoe fetish videos where the woman is barely touched, but her shoes are fondled and licked and jerked off onto.
Does that guy really care about anything but the hosiery and the heel and his own object dedicated lust? Probably not too much and I think that a lot of that object fetish and desire is part of the CD/TV scene. It's not always as much about the dick or the gay sex as it is about satisfying their object desire.
I just don't find the whole issue as clear cut as you t-girls do in terms of the sexuality of it all.
I do agree that TSs live as women and have the biological brain of a woman.
I don't agree that all the sex involving TS/CD/TV is as narrowly defined as many of the TSs on here like to put it.
As myself and other posters have pointed out 99% of what goes on in any fashion besides male to GG sex is considered gay, so why bother with trying to make such a useless distinction when it comes to sex?

[goku]

When a girl points out the obvious (perhaps not obvious to a chaser whose mind is clouded by testosterone-fueled fantasies), the guy gets mad.

The guy is not getting mad because of any "double standard"... the are getting mad for reasons that are much more base and non-conscious, reasons that are much more of a threat to his id.

They are getting mad for being made to feel gay or as lesser men while they pursue pleasure and fantasy.

The "double standard" argument requires too much reason and higher thinking. This injury is occurring in a very primitive recess of the chaser's mind... at that moment, most of these guys probably can't imagine a pretty TS as ever having transitioned. The chaser's beef is not about someone else and any sort of hypocrisy, it is purely about what the implication of calling someone else a CD means to the chaser.

The chaser is acting purely out of self-interest when he gets upset at someone being called a CD.


I see your take, and while I can't argue against it's validity, I still feel the OP's judgment is being passed merely on photos that no one truly knows the origins of.


My point is too many girls ream other girls because they are in the beginning stages of their transition. There is just no way for us to know where the people in question are headed, as far as whether their are intending on transitioning goes. That being said, shouldn't we give them the benefit of the doubt?

[goku]

How come she is not considered a TS? She is transitioning and has breasts. Just because she is jacks off to women's clothing doesn't make her less of a TS, considering she is transitioning and has breasts and you stated she was a she instead of a he.


There are many other factors that I realized over time through conversation.

IMO, anyone who gets that turned on by the clothes they wear on a day to day basis, has to be a crossdresser.

[Silcc69]

Met this Asian CD at the club last Saturday night, took her home right away! :fuckin:

Clean up that dirty ass mirror nigga!

[sdman]

Met this Asian CD at the club last Saturday night, took her home right away! :fuckin:

I want some asian ASS too youre a lucky man

[DarylWashington]

Clean up that dirty ass mirror nigga!

Didn't realize it was dirty till that pic lol.


I want some asian ASS too youre a lucky man

I get Asian ass on a weekly basis, she was SO fucking tight. I was at the club, there is usually a group of Asian trannies there every week, but I ran through them most of them already and every time I came around they would all walk away. Then I saw this chick, visiting from out of town, I laid down some game & showed off my body, and she was hooked. All in front of that one group and they were jealous, they started texting me in the club calling her ugly and that they were better lol. Then I carried her out the club in front of everyone and later on posted that pic on twitter, all the bitches were jealous!

I was able to fit 2/3 of my dick in her ass before I hit a wall. :fuckin:

[sdman]

Didn't realize it was dirty till that pic lol.



I get Asian ass on a weekly basis, she was SO fucking tight. I was at the club, there is usually a group of Asian trannies there every week, but I ran through them most of them already and every time I came around they would all walk away. Then I saw this chick, visiting from out of town, I laid down some game & showed off my body, and she was hooked. All in front of that one group and they were jealous, they started texting me in the club calling her ugly and that they were better lol. Then I carried her out the club in front of everyone and later on posted that pic on twitter, all the bitches were jealous!

I was able to fit 2/3 of my dick in her ass before I hit a wall. :fuckin:


I take my hat off to you man lol:Bowdown:

[Silcc69]

Didn't realize it was dirty till that pic lol.



I get Asian ass on a weekly basis, she was SO fucking tight. I was at the club, there is usually a group of Asian trannies there every week, but I ran through them most of them already and every time I came around they would all walk away. Then I saw this chick, visiting from out of town, I laid down some game & showed off my body, and she was hooked. All in front of that one group and they were jealous, they started texting me in the club calling her ugly and that they were better lol. Then I carried her out the club in front of everyone and later on posted that pic on twitter, all the bitches were jealous!

I was able to fit 2/3 of my dick in her ass before I hit a wall. :fuckin:

Your such and asshole but your stories are probably the second best on here only tjinla2001 tops you.

[DarylWashington]

Your such and asshole but your stories are probably the second best on here only tjinla2001 tops you.

They have a young ring leader who hates my guts, but everyone else mostly likes me cause they have gotten to know me personally. But they listen to her when she is around but they screw with me behind her back, she'll ban them from the group. They love hung, muscular, handsome studs like me. But most men like me aren't into them so they capitalize on these rare opportunities! :fuckin:

I can easily show up, leave with one, and hit it right away directly from the club.

[dopearope]

fuck out here,im not "being" a woman.i am a woman.period.
p.s. there is nothing fake om me,its all natural.maybe some girls are made up of plastic bits...

amber

nice avy:jerkoff

[natina]

if you put lipstick on a pig
its still a pig:hide-1::yayo::confused::iagree::party::wiggle:
but some don't know,so let me um help you

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gFcyvKlFC2E/S-RltKUxVEI/AAAAAAAAACg/qOVoOO5KdPY/s1600/lipstick_on_a_pig_sticker-p217941141262225600q0ou_400-744211.jpg



And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis OR HAD YOUR PENIS INVERTED, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.

[phobun]

if you put lipstick on a pig
its still a pig:hide-1::yayo::confused::iagree::party::wiggle:
but some don't know,so let me um help you


That may be true for autogynephilic crossdressing pervs like yourself but it is not true for everyone.

[rockabilly]

Your such and asshole but your stories are probably the second best on here only tjinla2001 tops you.

OH so Daryl bottomed for TJ?

[alyssaluxor]

YouTube - little britain usa emily howard arrested (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JUd0WQM6D8)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM1gDHzS_8&has_verified=1)

I think we're done here. Can we move on please?

~BB~


alyssa is gorgeous, look at those legs, thighs and curves all in lingere, thats sexy!

thanks sweeties! :kiss:

[alyssaluxor]

I just want to say I agree with Kelly, Phobun and Amber here!

TS are never a CD!
How could we be a CD when we already are a girl the first time we are born in this world?

And another thing we are not FAKE GIRLS for we are GIRLS already. We are not fake instead we are REAL!!! ;)

besos
Alyssa

[BigDF]

I just want to say I agree with Kelly, Phobun and Amber here!

TS are never a CD!
How could we be a CD when we already are a girl the first time we are born in this world?

And another thing we are not FAKE GIRLS for we are GIRLS already. We are not fake instead we are REAL!!! ;)

besos
AlyssaYou are absolutely correct, young lady! But in this instance you are :banghead with these boys. All that does is mess up a pretty face. I've said before and I'll say it again: it's in your eyes to me. Everything on the outside is just so much window dressing. And while I must say that yours is quite beautiful, even if you had not undertaken to make the necessary body modifications to alter your appearance, you would still be a girl.

Unfortunately for the many ignorant ones out there, on both sides of this fence, the sexual organ is considered the true gender indicator. Once again we are confusing the issue with labels. CD is an abbreviation for cross-dressers and where's the law that says all of those are guys masquerading as women? History is full of examples of women who masqueraded as men in order to fulfill their lives, some of whom may very well have been female to male transsexuals.

While I've no doubt that I too am :banghead I feel this strongly enough to make the point that we're all human with powerful needs and attractions that drive us certain ways. And so long as we are not harming another in fulfilling those needs, whose to say that we are wrong?:)

[natina]

everyone knows that phobun likes sliced up and diced up penis inverted and tucked..


you a sick fuck/perv


if you put lipstick on a pig
its still a pig:hide-1::yayo::confused::wiggle:
but some don't know,so let me um help you

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gFcyvKlFC2E/S-RltKUxVEI/AAAAAAAAACg/qOVoOO5KdPY/s1600/lipstick_on_a_pig_sticker-p217941141262225600q0ou_400-744211.jpg



And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis OR HAD YOUR PENIS INVERTED, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.




if you put lipstick on a pig
its still a pig:hide-1::yayo::confused::iagree:
but some don't know,so let me um help you

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gFcyvKlFC2E/S-RltKUxVEI/AAAAAAAAACg/qOVoOO5KdPY/s1600/lipstick_on_a_pig_sticker-p217941141262225600q0ou_400-744211.jpg



And we can debate things in our little circle here, but the world still thinks if you were born with a penis OR HAD YOUR PENIS INVERTED, and you get boobs and hormones and everything under the sun, it's still not straight sex.

[Saffron]

everyone knows that phobun likes sliced up and diced up penis inverted and tucked..


you a sick fuck/perv


if you put lipstick on a pig
its still a pig:hide-1::yayo::confused::wiggle:
but some don't know,so let me um help you

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gFcyvKlFC2E/S-RltKUxVEI/AAAAAAAAACg/qOVoOO5KdPY/s1600/lipstick_on_a_pig_sticker-p217941141262225600q0ou_400-744211.jpg


Shouldnt you be jerking off in pantyhose somewhere?

[onmyknees]

Lord, Kelly, you're a patient one, aren't you? :Bowdown: And, hey, all you guys that keep baiting Kelly over what she is saying, try reading her stuff a little closer since she's been saying the same thing this whole time and hasn't changed her position one bit. While it's amusing to watch you all keep:banghead get a grip on life a little. Live your own life and quit worrying about who's screwing what.

With all due respect...nobody's baiting anybody. I can read what's written perfectly fine. What was it you advised??? "Live your own life and quit worrying about who's screwing what". Good advise...pass it around !

[Legspreader]

Denial is a bitch!

[BigDF]

With all due respect...nobody's baiting anybody. I can read what's written perfectly fine. What was it you advised??? "Live your own life and quit worrying about who's screwing what". Good advise...pass it around !Gotta love someone who tosses your own words back at ya! And with respect to your opinions, I still hold my own. And I have been spreading my advice around or haven't you been paying attention?:shrug

[onmyknees]

Gotta love someone who tosses your own words back at ya! And with respect to your opinions, I still hold my own. And I have been spreading my advice around or haven't you been paying attention?:shrug

To be honest, I haven't been until this thread, and I'm not saying that to be coy. I thought your post although not disrespectful, was just plain wrong. Because someone contiues to say the same thing doesn't necissarily mean folks aren't reading it closely, or that thier responses are a bait. But...you're entitled to your opinion, as you say.

[phobun]

Shouldnt you be jerking off in pantyhose somewhere?


His wife got upset with all the stains and runs in her pantyhose and forbid him from borrowing hers.

[Ben]

A lot of CDs are very attractive. It hinges on attraction.
I mean, I'm not entirely if this pic depicts a CD or a TS.... I simply gravitate to her... and actually don't care.

[bluesoul]

So i have been pretty hard on guys here and other places that like cdz,but i found myself thinking....maybe its like a guy that has sex with a fat girl they really dont like fat girls but there in need at the time lol and hey men will f*ck ne thing right...or maybe they dont have the money..most men that have ts sex pay...but a cd would be happy to give up them cakes for free..:)

what a strange post to make.

i wonder what this person would think of gg's who feel the same way this person feels towards CDs

[wanderlust]

Im a crossdresser :-(

[bte]

Im a crossdresser :-(

A damn good looking one at that.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Im a crossdresser :-(

And a very attractive one, at that!!!:jerkoff

[LilyRox]

Where did you read all CD's are free meat?

[madsally]

Really don't see the point of this thread unless a) sunshyne is a troll b) sunshyne is feeling insecure c) sunshyne never learned to hold her tongue and not insult others

Peace out

[ymb469]

Huge difference... But haven't played with a TV so what the hell do I know.

TS=physically both, TV=a guy in a wig.

Sure it has been mentioned before...

[ymb469]

And I would add... Why do none of these women live in oregon?

[tsadriana]

Looks likes here most goes by the looks and not attitude.
TS/TV/CD they all have right to be happy ,no matter fulltime,part time etc ..Its very easy to judge a book by its cover.

[Prospero]

TS/TV/CD they all have right to be happy ,no matter fulltime,part time etc ..Its very easy to judge a book by its cover.

Absolutely. You are a wise woman, Adrianna

[BellaBellucci]

Your such and asshole but your stories are probably the second best on here only tjinla2001 tops you.

TJ 'tops' Daryl.

Muahahahahaha!

~BB~

[simonisthebest]

Where did you read all CD's are free meat?

they are

u just cant pay for a crossdresser, its just doesnt sound right,:yayo: most off them are gay-man, who put a wig & some make-up to look more attractive to get the interest off "straight dude" who are into trannies & its work pretty well actually

but i cant deny the fact that ,they look good,atleast some off them.. like "wanderlust"..but i dont want to hit It for the simple fact that "she's" a dude on the regular.

[BBaggins06]

Really don't see the point of this thread unless a) sunshyne is a troll b) sunshyne is feeling insecure c) sunshyne never learned to hold her tongue and not insult others

Peace out

Or d) it's a nearly 3 year old thread by someone who never posts here anymore that got necromanced for some unknown reason

[BBaggins06]

they are

u just cant pay for a crossdresser, its just doesnt sound right,

You know what else just doesn't sound right? Pretty much every one of your posts

[simonisthebest]

You know what else just doesn't sound right? Pretty much every one of your posts
u mad ?:yayo:

[BBaggins06]

u mad ?:yayo:

Mad? No. Pity? Yes

[shushu]

As a passable guy, there are always ggs out there for free, so no need for cds, eventhough I prefer ts.
The problem a lot of trans girls have is that they think sexual fetishes and looking for love are two different things.
That isn't true. I look for love and am addicted to feminine feet. So look for girls with nice feet who are lovely. Girls look for guys who take them like no mercy and also want love and they find us. So sexual preferences and love go together.
TS girls always believe guys want their dick and if it was about love, the could also take a GG. That is because they don't want the difference to be important and if, then you have to pay for. Or you take a CD.
I could never kiss a CD and they are not feminine. We want to fall in love with women, eventhouh sexual related thing like feet, being girly, big boobs or small boobs or even having a dick can be important.
I never had the thing with a GG with big boobs who said I had to pay or if I wanted it for free, I should look for a girl with small tits...
Your argument is somehow strange....

So i have been pretty hard on guys here and other places that like cdz,but i found myself thinking....maybe its like a guy that has sex with a fat girl they really dont like fat girls but there in need at the time lol and hey men will f*ck ne thing right...or maybe they dont have the money..most men that have ts sex pay...but a cd would be happy to give up them cakes for free..:)

[mrstig]

941394 i have been with a good few nothing wrong with it most transsexuals start as cds then progress