Should I start escorting??

[Brideshead]

No you shouldn't escort.

[drock]

Sure why not if that's what you want to do? Besides i'm sure there are a lot of guys who wouldn't mind tearing that young tight ass up so you might as well get while the getting is good.

[Brideshead]

Of course you dont think I should you are my HA official husband but im like really serious.

I think you have your entire life a head of you. I know that life can be burdensome, and I can only imagine what it is like for a transgenderd woman, but you do have options. There are good men out there. Be patient.

[Brideshead]

Well I will just escort until I find me a boyfreind

Please don't start escorting.

[LG]

No, Shalaya, I don't think you should escort, especially if you don't really need the money.

By what you're saying, you're considering escorting in order to be able to overcome the pain caused by guys who leave you. Why do you want to deaden your feelings?

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with escorts, but I doubt you would enjoy it, especially if you get so hurt by people now.

Some guys are total shitbags. Forget about them, they are not worth your time. They say what goes around comes around. I don't know, it might be that way.

But there are good guys out there who want something deeper than sex. Find such a guy. You deserve someone's love and it is something far more precious than anything you can buy at a store.

Best of luck.

[BeardedOne]

I am so repulsed by some guys that I think im getting ready to start escorting.

Darlin', my advice to you would be "No", for the simple fact that the above quote is akin to saying "I hate people so I'm going to go to work in a restaurant so I can poison their food". :o

If it were just about the money, or just about the sex, maybe it could work for you. To assume that you'd fit into in the lifestyle simply because you gag everytime you think of the clients is just plain wrong. No amount of 'coin' will fix the damage you'll cause to yourself if you go that route.

Damn. There's more I want to say on this matter, but I've typed it three times and it still ain't comin' out right. :x

Get some sleep, girl, you're talkin' crazy shit.

[Ecstatic]

If you're really thinking about it, Shalaya, then I recommend that you talk with a lot of other girls about their experiences and not just your best friend, just to get other perspectives. There's a lot of truth been laid down here about escorting, but remember it's also sometimes conflicting. There are some real sweethearts who escort, so it doesn't have to turn you cold, but I think that does happen to a lot of girls. There's good coin to be sure, but it's also hard in many ways. Also, it can happen, but I think finding that boyfriend will get harder as you escort.

[BeardedOne]

Well I will just escort until I find me a boyfreind

Do you know what a "demo" is in the automobile industry?

Don't be one.

[NickTheQuick]

After the alleged account break-in, I can't take anything that comes out of that username seriously anymore.

Nice avatar regardless.

[chefmike]

After the alleged account break-in, I can't take anything that comes out of that username seriously anymore.

Nice avatar regardless.

alleged... :claps

[BeardedOne]

After the alleged account break-in, I can't take anything that comes out of that username seriously anymore.

Nice avatar regardless.

Received and noted.

[chefmike]

However, I do like the idea of her sweeping Maidenhead off his(?) feet, selecting matching wedding gowns, and galloping off into the sunset...

[Brideshead]

However, I do like the idea of her sweeping Maidenhead off his(?) feet, selecting matching wedding gowns, and galloping off into the sunset...

I wish you peace chefmiike.

[BeardedOne]

However, I do like the idea of her sweeping Maidenhead off his(?) feet, selecting matching wedding gowns, and galloping off into the sunset...

Heh. It wasn't until recently that the bakery industry clued into the fact that they needed to stock oddlots of figures for the tops of their wedding cakes.

At least now they are prepared for just about anything: Male/female, male/male, female/female, male/sheep, etc. :)

.

[chefmike]

However, I do like the idea of her sweeping Maidenhead off his(?) feet, selecting matching wedding gowns, and galloping off into the sunset...

Heh. It wasn't until recently that the bakery industry clued into the fact that they needed to stock oddlots of figures for the tops of their wedding cakes.

At least now they are prepared for just about anything: Male/female, male/male, female/female, male/sheep, etc. :)

.

Exactly, I wish them nothing but bliss for eternity.

[chefmike]

However, I do like the idea of her sweeping Maidenhead off his(?) feet, selecting matching wedding gowns, and galloping off into the sunset...

I wish you peace chefmiike.

What? No communion wafer? No holy water? What kind of would-be pope are you? What a rip-off!

[Brideshead]

However, I do like the idea of her sweeping Maidenhead off his(?) feet, selecting matching wedding gowns, and galloping off into the sunset...

I wish you peace chefmiike.

What? No communion wafer? No holy water? What kind of would-be pope are you? What a rip-off!

I still wish you peace.

[Brideshead]

OMG I wish yall wouldnt argue in my topic I really need some help.

I dont know what I want to do my homegirl told me she would pay for my eros ad if i wanted to so I havent decided yet

Please don't do this.

[TrueBeauty TS]

If a guy you just met ONLY wants to have sex and then leave, I see nothing wrong with charging him. He's not interested in "you", he's only interested in the physical act. So why not charge for it? You don't have to be on EROS to get some money from the guy. Then hopefully, you will get some physical pleasure and a little money too, but not a broken heart.

If you decide to do it full time, you can't argue with the money. Sometimes it's really hard to shop at Target while all your escort friends are shopping at Tiffanys and LV. Plus, it CAN be great for your self esteem. Having guys tell you how beautiful you are. Worshiping you. Just look at the guys on THIS board. The highest praises go to girls that escort and/or do porn. True, this is an escort/porn board, but still....

As for finding a boyfriend, in the normal world, if you really like the guy, then you can wait a few dates, getting to know eachother before having sex. I'm not sure that works in the Tranny world. Every girl I know that has a BF had met when they were escorting. Sex first, then find out if you like eachother.

That's if you're lucky. Then you run into the guys on the DownLow. They love tranny sex, but don't want to come out of the closet. Those are hard people to deal with. Very destructive to your self esteem.

Best advice: Take it day by day. Maybe try escorting for a bit to see if you like it. You can always stop if you don't. Protect your heart. Don't close it off, but open it with care.

[TrueBeauty TS]

P.S. Sorry about the rambling.... coffee has not taken effect yet...

[Brideshead]

why dont u ask allanah or some well respected girl in the industry who really has a good heart and will give u the pros and cons...not a bunch of guys who either wanna bang u or dont wanna see others do it...

Her sex life is her business, but I don't desire to see an intelligent and sensitive woman make a bad decision.

[chefmike]

:?:

[ANIYAH]

I was recently thinking about something and it really bothered me.Im constantly talking about how I dont escort and I am so happy blah blah blah I work at walmart blah blah blah You are a whore blah blah blah.Really I made this topic because I am really sick of the way guys treat me.I am so repulsed by some guys that I think im getting ready to start escorting.I was talking to me bestfreind who is a escort.I was telling her how guys just take advantage of me and just want to have sex with me.She told me that when you escort you dont have any feelings you just think about the money and thats it.So it really doesnt matter if you never see the guy again.I really thought about that.Im so hurt when a guy just fucks me and leaves me.Or when a guy just wants to be with me just to have sex.I think the only cure would be to escort like everybody else.At least I can have some fab shit and never have to like men again.I can just take their money cuz nothings better than shopping anyways.I mean everybody else is doing it.I think I should just get hip to the lifestyle and make me some coins.What do yall think


Although i usually dont agree with alot of ur comments i gonna give my opinion on this as and Escort myself ...No i dont feel like you should start escorting as Revenge against men ..Lol in a sense thats wrong but i understand ...
Many men look at transsexuals as just sex objects/Freaks ....Just something to fulfil a fantasy when its convient for them ....Although there are few that are different there very hard to find weather your and escort or not ..."I feel if u gonna fuck me and leave then leave something to help me forget about you$$$$ "Because when you really like a guy and he puts all this energy into haveing sex with you ....and after that u dont hear from him ever it makes u feel used...If u gimme some money i can go shopping and forget about .. 8)
But being and Escort also makes it a little bit more difficult because they there sorta a label on you now that ur a "hoe"...Unless you lie...Lol And i dont recommend that.....
Finding a man thats gonna really take u seriously is not easy at all regardless of your occupation ..But sweety escorting aint gonna make it easiers

[TrueBeauty TS]

k thats really good advice i think i am going to escort for awhile just to really see how it is.Maybe you are right I think all guys really like escorts.I was talking to this guy last night and he was like he just wanted to have sex with me but he didnt want any commitments.I was like ewwwwwww I dont do that so maybe you are right Ima just escort for like a year


Girl, you don't have to make any long term plans. Don't quit the job you have right now. Don't burn any bridges.

If you want to try it, try it on the side for a week, 2 weeks, or so. See how it goes. If you like it, then you can make other plans. If you don't, you still have your job to go back to.

Just my opinion.

[ANIYAH]

I think my life will be stress free if I escort cuz then men will leave me alone.Im like really tired of guys using me and then paying my freinds thats so shady.
LOL I HAVE HERD OF THAT HAPPENING SO MANY TIMESSSS

[Slither]

Well frickin' do it then, what do you need our approval for? Did you make this post just so everyone would beg you not to escort?

[Brideshead]

Ladies not all men are brutes. There are good men out there.

[Brideshead]

LOL I know Aniyah by the way you are really cool but anyways I was talking to this guy and he said he was coming to see me blah blah blah cuz he was going to be on business.Well we met and we had sex and everything.So when I got home I called my homegirl and she told me she had a date.Of course I wanted to know who and guess who it was.Mr Im In Town For Business with 300 girls.I was so hurt

I know that you are hurt, but not every man is like him.

[TrueBeauty TS]

I think my life will be stress free if I escort cuz then men will leave me alone.Im like really tired of guys using me and then paying my freinds thats so shady.


I don't know about "stress free", but I do know SOOOO many girls that tried to have real relationships, or even sex with some love, but then when they saw the same guys paying others girls for what they were giving away for free, they quickly realised how stupid they were. Now some of those very same girls are the most talked about girls on EROS.

[MacShreach]

If a guy you just met ONLY wants to have sex and then leave, I see nothing wrong with charging him. He's not interested in "you", he's only interested in the physical act. So why not charge for it? You don't have to be on EROS to get some money from the guy. Then hopefully, you will get some physical pleasure and a little money too, but not a broken heart.

If you decide to do it full time, you can't argue with the money. Sometimes it's really hard to shop at Target while all your escort friends are shopping at Tiffanys and LV. Plus, it CAN be great for your self esteem. Having guys tell you how beautiful you are. Worshiping you. Just look at the guys on THIS board. The highest praises go to girls that escort and/or do porn. True, this is an escort/porn board, but still....

As for finding a boyfriend, in the normal world, if you really like the guy, then you can wait a few dates, getting to know eachother before having sex. I'm not sure that works in the Tranny world. Every girl I know that has a BF had met when they were escorting. Sex first, then find out if you like eachother.

That's if you're lucky. Then you run into the guys on the DownLow. They love tranny sex, but don't want to come out of the closet. Those are hard people to deal with. Very destructive to your self esteem.

Best advice: Take it day by day. Maybe try escorting for a bit to see if you like it. You can always stop if you don't. Protect your heart. Don't close it off, but open it with care.

Intelligent, thoughtful, well put.

See that bit I highlighted? Apart from anything else, that way is safe. He knows what he's getting into. Surprises in this particular milieu can have bad endings (sorry to be dark, but today of all days it's worth remembering.)

[BeardedOne]

I was talking to this guy last night and he was like he just wanted to have sex with me but he didnt want any commitments.I was like ewwwwwww I dont do that

That's why I see escorts now. Too many of my commited relationships should have been. Commited, that is. One was. Oh, wait, no that wasn't commital, per se, it was a murder conviction. :x

[BeardedOne]

Hah! Good one, Chef, but so far it's 14-2 with Sybil winning hands down. :wink:

[Brideshead]

Well i gotta get ready to go to work.If you shop at Walmart dont buy meat from Clearance cuz we just repackage the old meat and put it out.

Why go to work at Wal-Mart? I thought you want to be an escort.

[swimnn]

Does it have to be a complete lifestyle change? Why can't a girl just go to a T-Girl friendly bar and meet a guy willing to pay and see how it goes? If she feels bad about what happened just don't do it again, or just do it once and a while when you need $ for something.

[Brideshead]

What's the average price for an escort? I guess I should know these things, since its the only way I'm gonna get some. I mean if trannys are workin well I'm gonna have to pay.

[BeardedOne]

What's the average price for an escort? I guess I should know these things, since its the only way I'm gonna get some. I mean if trannys are workin well I'm gonna have to pay.

It varies, from provider to provider, town to town, etc. One I know averages at $250 for an outcall and gave me a wonderful arrangement for a day rate ('Cuz I just don't =do= single hours - I get the bum's rush in everything else in my life, I'm not going to pay for it, too).

Another usually charges $300 for incall, though I've caught her haggling on the phone and quoting $250, prolly 'cuz I "sound" like I can afford the higher rate. There are also girls on Eros that have rates quoted for half hour sessions (Which just plain frightens me, if for no other reason than the kind of client volume they might be turning :shock: ).

Two rules: Don't haggle. It pisses them off and makes you look dumbass cheap. It's different if you're negotiating a day rate, because that's not very common, but if you're just there for the hour, it's priced as marked.

Second is: Don't cave in to bait-n-switch. One girl quoted me one rate in an email note and a higher rate at the door. Fortunately she was decent about it and things worked out (And, at the rate she originally quoted, I stayed another hour and we talked for a while, so she ended up getting more $$ after all). We've since been together a couple more times, because I appreciated her honesty and lack of 'attitude' (And I've been paying the higher rate).

Of course, mileage may vary. :lol:

Talk to some of the girls that post here, and check their Eros listings.

[Brideshead]

I'm going to have to check out eros, but that site blows elephant chunks.

[BeardedOne]

I'm going to have to check out eros, but that site blows elephant chunks.

And probably charges for it.

[Brideshead]

I'm going to have to check out eros, but that site blows elephant chunks.

And probably charges for it.

No doubt.

[BlackAdder]

I said it before Shalaya, your very young...you should expect some growing pains and learn from your mistakes. If you dont like the treatment your recieving, maybe you should open up your dating pool. Or move somewhere else.....or not....whatever.

[Brideshead]

I was recently thinking about something and it really bothered me.Im constantly talking about how I dont escort and I am so happy blah blah blah I work at walmart blah blah blah You are a whore blah blah blah.Really I made this topic because I am really sick of the way guys treat me.I am so repulsed by some guys that I think im getting ready to start escorting.I was talking to me bestfreind who is a escort.I was telling her how guys just take advantage of me and just want to have sex with me.She told me that when you escort you dont have any feelings you just think about the money and thats it.So it really doesnt matter if you never see the guy again.I really thought about that.Im so hurt when a guy just fucks me and leaves me.Or when a guy just wants to be with me just to have sex.I think the only cure would be to escort like everybody else.At least I can have some fab shit and never have to like men again.I can just take their money cuz nothings better than shopping anyways.I mean everybody else is doing it.I think I should just get hip to the lifestyle and make me some coins.What do yall think


You should really sit in front of a mirror and reflect.

[slinky]

I probably going to regret getting involved in this discussion........

First, I've been in the escort biz for about 25 years, so please realize that while what I'm going to say are generalizations, they are generalizations based on LOTS of real world experience, and even though there will always be exceptions, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.

Anyway, first off you have these issues: first being a TS escort and second being a WOC escort. In both cases, culturally, you're in a spot where many from those backgrounds feel like they have no or little choice but to escort. I can't tell you how many young black females have told me that one of the reasons they got into escorting was that where they were from , they knew guys were going to force themselves on them, and their defense was going to be "I get paid for that", so at least if they were going to be fucking guys they didn't like, they'd be making bank on it. Also, many got into the biz "just to make some extra bucks"... but it's too hard to get out... "Golden Handcuffs" wise.

And while there are girls who are still "sweet" or whatever, for the vast majority of girls, escorting severely changes the way the look at money and men for the rest of their lives. It becomes very difficult later to separate the sex and the $. For a lot of girls who are able to retire (many times by meeting their guy thru the biz), it's tough not making their own $. I can't tell you how many times I've seen some girl retire because some guy wants to take them away from the biz and treat them nicely, but the first time they ask for some luxury (Prada bag, Manolos, etc.) and the guy says "no", the fiorst thing that goes thru their mind is "This shit wouldn't be happening if I had my own money", and the relationship is downhill from there.

The money you get from escorting is extremely empowering, as is the power over men. But it's like a drug, and hard to give up or even change.

OK, so much more to say and too little time, so I'll end for now with an analogy: what if you were going out with some straight guy, and you found out his job was as a "gay for pay" porn actor? What would you think and how would it influence your relationship?

[slinky]

PS I'm not telling you that you shouldn't escort. I know thousands of current and former escorts, and I've got plenty of friends in the biz. What I'm telling you is don't go into it thinking that it won't change you and it's just a walk in the park. Perhaps that will be the case, but it's a long shot.

[slinky]

oops

[slinky]

You should really sit in front of a mirror and reflect.

Is that intentionally or unintentionally funny?

[hillbilly]

wow, that's some fucked up logic. you think being able to buy some stuff will be some redemption?

it's like you are deciding to take up smoking when you're 30 or something.

maybe a much healthier response to your situation would be to date different guys.

you're not up against anything that GG's have been dealing with forever. regarding the sex at least.

you've got a good head. you can use it differently than that.

[4DegreesWarmer]

Start escorting to avoid assholes...sounds like a solid plan...

On a serious note, I don't think escorting is going to solve your problems...only open you to more. I believe the issue of feeling used and abused merely as novelty transcends the issue of being a tg. Many g-girls face the same problem. Rather than closing yourself off from hurt by men by simply having sex for money, your best bet would be to be more selective about the men you decide to deal with. Conveying your worth to them and maybe not "putting out" so easily until you can discern the real reasons they're interested in you.

Question for you: Do you really think getting cash from guys just to be used as a sex object is really going to allow you to feel more well-adjusted?

Either way...hopefully things work out for you and find someone to treat you right...and values you for more than sex.

[BlackAdder]

"And while there are girls who are still "sweet" or whatever, for the vast majority of girls, escorting severely changes the way the look at money and men for the rest of their lives. It becomes very difficult later to separate the sex and the $. For a lot of girls who are able to retire (many times by meeting their guy thru the biz), it's tough not making their own $. I can't tell you how many times I've seen some girl retire because some guy wants to take them away from the biz and treat them nicely, but the first time they ask for some luxury (Prada bag, Manolos, etc.) and the guy says "no", the fiorst thing that goes thru their mind is "This shit wouldn't be happening if I had my own money", and the relationship is downhill from there. "


Thats straight up on the money...If you start that, youll never be the same again thats for sure.


The more I think about it, the more Im coming to believe the original post was just an attention grabber.

[jamans]

Shalaya, just my opinion, but I think the ONLY reason to escort is for the $$$. If you are getting into it cuz guys you are with now treat you like shit, I doupt that will change much.

Guess the way I see it is who gives a shit if some random stranger calls you beutiful & give you a couple hundred. Compliments like that don't mean shit unless they come from someone you have a knowlege/opinion of too.........So you won't be getting in this for self-esteem

If you don't need the bucks, then stay at Walmart...Tho thinking about it, the $$$ will be a hell of alot better than Walmart.

[tsntx]

I was recently thinking about something and it really bothered me.Im constantly talking about how I dont escort and I am so happy blah blah blah I work at walmart blah blah blah You are a whore blah blah blah.Really I made this topic because I am really sick of the way guys treat me.I am so repulsed by some guys that I think im getting ready to start escorting.I was talking to me bestfreind who is a escort.I was telling her how guys just take advantage of me and just want to have sex with me.She told me that when you escort you dont have any feelings you just think about the money and thats it.So it really doesnt matter if you never see the guy again.I really thought about that.Im so hurt when a guy just fucks me and leaves me.Or when a guy just wants to be with me just to have sex.I think the only cure would be to escort like everybody else.At least I can have some fab shit and never have to like men again.I can just take their money cuz nothings better than shopping anyways.I mean everybody else is doing it.I think I should just get hip to the lifestyle and make me some coins.What do yall think

ok heres my 2cents... im in the same EXACT boat... im so tired of the games and bs that guys put me thru just to fuck me or blow me and never call me back its recockulous...so i thought ok if they wanna treat me like a whore then theyre gonna have to pay me like one... so for about a week everytime some guy would bring up sex or something sexual suggestive w/in 5mins of saying hello i would say this conversation is going to cost you $$$.... and then at the end of said week i noticed that i didnt stick to the though if the guy was cute... its late and i think my point has been lost ....so basically DONT DO IT and STOP fucking losers :D -j

[BlackAdder]

C'mon Jen...your saying you cant find ONE decent guy in the whole state of Texas???


Hmm....well okay...It *is* Texas after all.....

[AllanahStarrNYC]

i have a personal story to share about this- but my ambien is kicking in- and it is kinda long- so i shall write it tommorrow.

[slinky]

At least you get Ambien. They only give me Lunesta (and I gotta save my Klonopin for when I really need them).

[Legend]

Most girls i think don't look for nice guys they look for thugs/badboys and when they are mistreated they put all guys in the same category!

[BlackAdder]

A sensible post out of Legend? Say it aint so Legend!!!!

[Legend]

A sensible post out of Legend? Say it aint so Legend!!!!

LOL!

[Mingo]

damn it seems like all ts are escorts

[TrueBeauty TS]

I love nice guys. I go for the "classic" gentleman. Nice, polite, educated, well mannered.


But when most guys say they are "nice" guys, it means they are any, or all of the following:

Broke
Unemployed
Uneducated
Drug Addict (or recovering)
Alcoholic (or recovering)
Sexually confused
Socially inept

And I just refuse to accept that.

[Legend]

I love nice guys. I go for the "classic" gentleman. Nice, polite, educated, well mannered.


But when most guys say they are "nice" guys, it means they are any, or all of the following:

Broke
Unemployed
Uneducated
Drug Addict (or recovering)
Alcoholic (or recovering)
Sexually confused
Socially inept

And I just refuse to accept that.


Thats not true at all, where did you get that info?!

[TrueBeauty TS]

I love nice guys. I go for the "classic" gentleman. Nice, polite, educated, well mannered.


But when most guys say they are "nice" guys, it means they are any, or all of the following:

Broke
Unemployed
Uneducated
Drug Addict (or recovering)
Alcoholic (or recovering)
Sexually confused
Socially inept

And I just refuse to accept that.


Thats not true at all, where did you get that info?!


That's been true in my personal experience. I'm not saying it's a universal truth. (Although I may be on to something! LOL) :wink:

[Legend]

I love nice guys. I go for the "classic" gentleman. Nice, polite, educated, well mannered.


But when most guys say they are "nice" guys, it means they are any, or all of the following:

Broke
Unemployed
Uneducated
Drug Addict (or recovering)
Alcoholic (or recovering)
Sexually confused
Socially inept

And I just refuse to accept that.


Thats not true at all, where did you get that info?!


That's been true in my personal experience. I'm not saying it's a universal truth. (Although I may be on to something! LOL) :wink:

For some reason i knew you were gonna say personal experience which is respectable those things you listed sounds more of a nutcase then a nice guy,but in my personal experience's you can treat a girl with much respect and do anything for her but in the end she mistreats you even though your a nice guy!

[BeardedOne]

I love nice guys. I go for the "classic" gentleman. Nice, polite, educated, well mannered.


But when most guys say they are "nice" guys, it means they are any, or all of the following:

Broke
Unemployed
Uneducated
Drug Addict (or recovering)
Alcoholic (or recovering)
Sexually confused
Socially inept

And I just refuse to accept that.

Hmm. There might be something to that formula. I think I qualify for at least two items on the list and people are always telling me I'm =soooo= nice.

Damn. Cursed at birth. :x

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Most girls i think don't look for nice guys they look for thugs/badboys and when they are mistreated they put all guys in the same category!

Thats not true at all. All if not most guys are nice to gurls in the begining. To woo her. Get in her good side. Try to date her. Once they start dating..guys pamper gurls. Going out, clubbing, dinners here and there and shopping. You spend alot of quality time together as a couple. While the sparks are there. Sex is always great and new.

Then 3-6 months to a year down the line of dating and the relationship moves into a more serious note..Things change. The novelty wears off. They grown more secure of their gurls affection for them. They start taking things for granted. Not to excercise as much..Start to slide on simple things like taking the trash out or helping out around the house cooking, cleaning and stuffs like that and sadly some men even cheat and will try to get away with it too. Thats if youre clueless and cant detect patterns in your partner.

They tend to make you less of a priority than when they initially did the first time around. Ive dated guys long term. One 3 years from when I lived back in MN and working 2 retail jobs and one 2 years from when I moved here to the eastcoast. Both were very good, sweet, supportive etc etc. in the begining of the relationship. And I was literally "A breast"..i.e. always there for them mentally, physically, emotionally, sexually etc. I had been a decent good gf. Got introduced to family, attended functions with them. But both kept things away from me..The former was a recurring alcoholic and the latter was addicted to pain medications and as if that wasnt enough added cocaine to his routine. Both of which was my petpeeve. If theres anything I do not like in a man those are it! I have never done drugs nor do I indulge in drinking even if I could. Just not my type of personality.

So what do you do? Do you leave them right away because they got issues which they lied to you in the first place or stay because they grown to be a part of you and vice versa? Hoping they love you enough for them to change? While I fell for them and love them..I think Love shouldnt be an excuse for codependency. So I left them both after the fact that I have exerted alot of efforts into saving the relationship. I even took the former to a rehab before I left him.

And because of what I had to deal with both men (And others before them)..Ive grown more weary to get into any type of situations like those again. Hence I dont date or refrain from dating men. Or getting close to a guy. I dont like the drama. Im upfront with myself and I only expect the same from a guy. I know anyone would beg, steal and borrow..hand you lines..lies and empty promises to get what they want. Thats a way of life for some people. But Im not the only one who felt was short changed or gotten a raw deal out of a relationship. Im sure alot of the women/ts women for sure had went through something similar or maybe some even worst and can relate to this.

Which brings us to the point "Why TS women turned to doing tricks?" or "Why some women turned lesbians?" Its less complex. Sex is sex. Woman understands another woman well better than men. Work is work and everything is there at face value. You dont have to deal with any man's bs. There's no attachment involved just the fun. Im not advocating younger woman/TS women here to follow suit either. So lets make it clear.

Also Im not generalizing men here..But If atleast most or half the guys treated and respected women or TS gurls decently..And as tsntx *Jen puts it NOT to bring up "SEX" not a minute into talking..And not "Play" us (By maybe returning a phonecall etc. whatever the case maybe)..then it wouldnt be hard finding any TS to date with. But sadly, its not the case with guys thesedays. Were being chased and treated as sex objects instead of as people. So that saying, "If you treat one like a whore..then we'll act and be like one".

Thats just how I see it from my own experiences and observation from other women/TS gurls Im friends with who are in or were in a few relationships. And Im pretty sure somewhere out there..there are guys who went through alot of drama and bs from women and ts women alike too (In reverse). As much as there were both men and women who went and got treated badly by their partners. Its life and we all learn from it firsthand.

~Kisses.

HTG

[Legend]

Most girls i think don't look for nice guys they look for thugs/badboys and when they are mistreated they put all guys in the same category!

Thats not true at all. All if not most guys are nice to gurls in the begining. To woo her. Get in her good side. Try to date her. Once they start dating..guys pamper gurls. Going out, clubbing, dinners here and there and shopping. You spend alot of quality time together as a couple. While the sparks are there. Sex is always great and new.

Then 3-6 months to a year down the line of dating and the relationship moves into a more serious note..Things change. The novelty wears off. They grown more secure of their gurls affection for them. They start taking things for granted. Not to excercise as much..Start to slide on simple things like taking the trash out or helping out around the house cooking, cleaning and stuffs like that and sadly some men even cheat and will try to get away with it too. Thats if youre clueless and cant detect patterns in your partner.

They tend to make you less of a priority than when they initially did the first time around. Ive dated guys long term. One 3 years from when I lived back in MN and working 2 retail jobs and one 2 years from when I moved here to the eastcoast. Both were very good, sweet, supportive etc etc. in the begining of the relationship. And I was literally "A breast"..i.e. always there for them mentally, physically, emotionally, sexually etc. I had been a decent good gf. Got introduced to family, attended functions with them. But both kept things away from me..The former was a recurring alcoholic and the latter was addicted to pain medications and as if that wasnt enough added cocaine to his routine. Both of which was my petpeeve. If theres anything I do not like in a man those are it! I have never done drugs nor do I indulge in drinking even if I could. Just not my type of personality.

So what do you do? Do you leave them right away because they got issues which they lied to you in the first place or stay because they grown to be a part of you and vice versa? Hoping they love you enough for them to change? While I fell for them and love them..I think Love shouldnt be an excuse for codependency. So I left them both after the fact that I have exerted alot of efforts into saving the relationship. I even took the former to a rehab before I left him.

And because of what I had to deal with both men..Ive grown more weary to get into any type of situations like those again. Hence I dont date or refrain from dating men. Or getting close to a guy. I dont like the drama. Im upfront with myself and I only expect the same from a guy. I know anyone would beg, steal and borrow..hand you lines..lies and empty promises to get what they want. Thats a way of life for some people. But Im not the only one who felt was short changed or gotten a raw deal out of a relationship. Im sure alot of the women/ts women for sure had went through something similar or maybe some even worst and can relate to this.

Which brings us to the point that why TS women turned to doing tricks. Its less complex. Sex is sex. Work is work and everything is there at face value. You dont have to deal with any man's bs. There's no attachment involved just the fun. Im not advocating younger woman/TS women here to follow suit either. So lets make it clear.

Also Im not generalizing men here..But If atleast most or half the guys treated and respected women or TS gurls decently..And as tsntx *Jen puts it NOT to bring up "SEX" not a minute into talking..And not "Play" us (By maybe returning a phonecall etc. whatever the case maybe)..then it wouldnt be hard finding any TS to date with. But sadly, its not the case with guys thesedays. Were being chased and treated as sex objects instead of as people. So that saying, "If you treat one like a whore..then we'll act and be like one".

Thats just how I see it from my own experiences and observation from other women/TS gurls Im friends with who are in or were in a few relationships.

~Kisses.

HTG

Thanks for telling your personal situations a lot of people wouldn't do that on here props to you for that, Can you tell me what do you mean by "novelty wears off" please, i really think there should be no secrets in a relationship because its gonna fall apart from that one secret no matter what it is! More props for you taking the former to rehad and i would have done that too in the same situation, freinds are freinds no matter what!


I don't consider myself a tranny chaser are anything like that, I believe all women should be treated with respect and dignity no matter who there, believe it or not but i'm still and virgin and really not thinking about sex right now, i'm just looking for a sweet girl who i can hangout with and call my sweetheart!! I think most guys are like me who wants a nice girl who is really really sweet!

[BlackAdder]

"But when most guys say they are "nice" guys, it means they are any, or all of the following:

Broke
Unemployed
Uneducated
Drug Addict (or recovering)
Alcoholic (or recovering)
Sexually confused
Socially inept

And I just refuse to accept that."

That may be your personal experience but my gut reaction says maybe you should start dealing with a different class of guy.

[4DegreesWarmer]

Yeah, that's a pretty odd description of "nice guys," maybe with the exception of being socially inept.

Usually, when most guys claim to be nice, they're either full of shit or push over nice.

I think the problem with the whole nice guy versus bad boy scenario is a miscommunication on what nice truly means when coming from a woman...but I could be wrong though

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thanks for telling your personal situations a lot of people wouldn't do that on here props to you for that

No problem. I dont have a problem sharing life experiences. I would though keep my ex bf's anonymity out of tact should one day he comes across this forum and this writing. 8)


Can you tell me what do you mean by "novelty wears off" please

It means..Guys are like boys and their toys..e.g. Xbox 360..Its new and its coming out on Tuesday. Im pretty sure alot of you are lining up to get them. And ofcourse, since its new..youll play with it for a whole month or two until you get tired/bored of it. Thats what I meant with "Novelty wearing off". Once its gets old then youre just sick of it. LOL.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BlackAdder]

I was was a girl for 7 years and never got sick of her....The relationship got screwed up because I didnt know enough about the core mechanics of relationships to fix the little things that went wrong from time to time, and those little things built into a crescendo.

Cant compare a relationship to an Xbox lol.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

:evil: BlackAdder, I wasnt comparing relationships with an Xbox360. I was more trying to define what I said about "Novelty wears off". Silly LOL. :lol:

This now reminded me of a commercial on tv.."women are like coffee.." Lmao.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BlackAdder]

I want my woman to be like Kenyan AAA....Or Jaimacan Blue....

[Ecstatic]

Thoughtful posts from so many, good to read this morning before getting down to work. HTG, in particular your long post stands out.

Escorting can be a trap and can turn a girl hard and cold, but it certainly doesn't have to. However, it is hard to break through the "escort wall" with a girl you've hooked up on a pay for play basis: the simple fact that the "relationship" such as it is is defined by money and sex erects a nearly insurrmountable wall between the client and the provider, or, to quote the old phrase, "once a trick always a trick." Too many times I've hooked up under those circumstances and it's been a one-time only and even if the sex was great, I wouldn't want to go back. And of course this fuels the fire that several girls have posted here that guys only want to bust a nut and not get back to them, to take it further. Yet there's that wall, preventing the guys (and it's a wall built, for different reasons, by both parties).

But it's not insurmountable. Maybe I appear to be a naive nice guy tranny chaser ass-kisser (of which I have been accused many times), but what I value in any relationship, however brief, isn't only the sex, but friendship. I have been fortunate enough to develop friendships with four girls over the years, to varying degrees, such that I'll go out to dinner or shopping or just for a walk with them, or call them on the phone to chat, or have them call me to chat or to ask for my help in something. One girl even met my wife when we were out to dinner.

Now when I hook up with these girls, I'm still a client, and I pay my donation. After all, that's their job and just as I'll pay my best friend (who's a carpenter) for working on my house or my chiropractor (who I've known for 25 years and is also a friend--and by the way, I host his website and he pays me in turn). That's cool. Especially considering my circumstances: over 50, married, living too far outside the city for the club scene, and while making decent coin by no means well-off.

OK I'm kind of rambling here, too, so I'll cut this short. But my main point is there are a lot of us guys who, for whatever reason, aren't looking for an LTR with a girl, are looking for friendship and meaningful connections and not just a "bust a nut" hour.

[hotfireman69]

Shalaya, Just to throw my dime in, PLEASE DON'T ESCORT...I for one am a man who would love to find a tgirl like you to marry....so I am sure there has got to be someone out there to treat you like the precious lady you are....you deserve it...please be patient, or come to Forida....we have Walmarts too...hint, hint......

[hotfireman69]

I did not mean to imply that...lol..sorry..we have Hospitals, Law Offices, anything you want.....the world is your oyster....:)

[hotfireman69]

oh yeah and we have one of the greatest unversities in the world...Florida State.....!!!

[TrueBeauty TS]

"But when most guys say they are "nice" guys, it means they are any, or all of the following:

Broke
Unemployed
Uneducated
Drug Addict (or recovering)
Alcoholic (or recovering)
Sexually confused
Socially inept

And I just refuse to accept that."

That may be your personal experience but my gut reaction says maybe you should start dealing with a different class of guy.


Of course. I agree with that, that's why I didn't didn't stick with them or they didn't make it through the screening process to begin with.

But you also have to realize that the pool of guys that are into trannys is very small compared to guys that are into GG's. Less quality to choose from, IMO.

[BlackAdder]

Hate to tell you Mega, but most GG's are like that today....Its not "What can i contribute to this relationship" but "What can I get out of the relationship".

[TrueBeauty TS]

WRONG....WRONG.....WRONG........PERSONALLY I HANGOUT WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS WHO ARE GOOD LOOKING OVER 6FT TALL SINGLE , THEY DO NOT DRINK, DO NOT DO DRUGS , 3 OWN MILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS , THEY ALL DRIVE BMWs , ONE DRIVES A JAGUAR , ALL BUT ONE IS BUILT , ALL SEEK LTR ONLY NOT ONE NIGHT STANDS OR SEX......ALL WOULD BRING YOU HOME TO FAMILY AS WELL....



Tell them to come out to Los Angeles!!!!!

:D

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Awesome post.

Thanks Mama! :)


Thoughtful posts from so many, good to read this morning before getting down to work. HTG, in particular your long post stands out.

Thankyou Ecstatic. 8)


WRONG....WRONG.....WRONG........PERSONALLY I HANGOUT WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS WHO ARE GOOD LOOKING OVER 6FT TALL SINGLE , THEY DO NOT DRINK, DO NOT DO DRUGS , 3 OWN MILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS , THEY ALL DRIVE BMWs , ONE DRIVES A JAGUAR , ALL BUT ONE IS BUILT , ALL SEEK LTR ONLY NOT ONE NIGHT STANDS OR SEX......ALL WOULD BRING YOU HOME TO FAMILY AS WELL

Well, where are these men MEGA? LOL. I have not seen them when I was single and looking. Oh Wait, Lets see I met one about 4 years ago..A single Jewish guy who owns a house and wants me to move in with him in Brooklyn. He drives a porsche (OWNS IT) and owns a Jewelry business. But wants me there in his house for his concubine.


....THE PROBLEM IS 95% TS GIRLS ARE TAKERS NOT GIVERS, THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO LOVE, THE ONLY WANNA BE LOVED UNDER THEIR OWN CONDITIONS .......RELATIONSHIPS ARE A 2 WAY STREET...

To Lump all transexuals into that one category of yours is wrong. I have given so much in return to every guy I dated. Im sure Im not thee only transexual out there whos done so. I am positive that I have touched each of my ex bf's lives in a positive way. There are no predisposed "Condition". But I agree that LOVE is a two way street.


MOST GIRLS NEVER FINISHED HIGHSCHOOL AND COULDNT TELL YOU WHO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR COUNTRY IS....BUT....SHE CAN TELL YOU EVERY SONG ON THE NEW MADONNA ALBUM........

Maybe some. But you can not "ASSUME" every single transexual are just that-"UNEDUCATED". You make it sound like transexual women are only good for sex and are money leeches and nothing else. Though the irony of it all is that you like transexual women and is STILL looking for a gf. LOL. But when you speak, you sounded bitter, jaded and all negative when talking about transexual women. :roll:


MOST GIRLS OWN FAMILIES LET THEM OUT ON THE STREETS WHEN THEY WERE 15 YEARSOLD....THE GIRLS GIVE MONEY TO THIER MOTHERS FROM THEM ECORTING....NICE PEICE OF SHIT MOTHER......ITS ABOUT VALUES , AND LACK OF NERTURING BY MOMMY FROM WHEN THESE GIRLS WERE YOUNG......EVEN THIER FAMILIES ARE TAKERS , THATS WHAT THEY KNOW..............

Thats not so true. And what is wrong if a gurl helps her own family? What do you have againts it? Family is family. At the end of the day its what most of us transexual have. Men come and go.

I agree about values, not too many has them thesedays so I can agree with you on that. But an unorturing mother and a family who puts a gurl out on the street to work and sell her ass is just wrongful of you to even assume or say. Perhaps you have seen this 1st hand one time, two times too many. But its not the case for everyone.


...UNFORTUNATLY GUYS LIKE ME ARE HOPLESSLY SEEKING THE NEEDLE IN THE HAYSTACK...A TS GIRL WHO IS WILL TO GIVE HERSELF AS WELL AS JUST TAKE IN A RELATIONSHIP.....IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MONEY, IM TALKING ABOUT GIVING UP YOUR SOUL TO YOUR SOULMATE....YOUR HEART, FOR HIS HEART......THATS A RARE GIRL...............BESIDE MOST GIRLS LIKE THE WRONG GUYS, THEY ARE FISHING IN THE WRONG POND....THATS HY THEY KEEP GETTING THE SAME RESULTS........

I know plenty of gurls who's given up their whole selves to a guy and still get badly treated. Its not true to say that most gurls like the wrong guys. Its actually the guys wooing the gurls and misrepresenting themselves by putting up and fake facade of themselves thats not their real self. Like a bait and switch type of thing. Thats basically it. Heterosexual man and woman does that thing too say for example to belong in a popular group at school or the office.

And one more thing MEGA, Out of curiousity..I have been reading your post and you sound always mad or upset at the world..Why is that? If you dont mind me asking??

~Kisses.

HTG

[BlackAdder]

So umm....what do the rest of us do Mega, who arent 6 foot tall and 3 million dollar business owners??

[TrueBeauty TS]

So umm....what do the rest of us do Mega, who arent 6 foot tall and 3 million dollar business owners??

Work harder. On everything. Develop a great personality, good sense of humor, manners, education, and be realistic about who you can (and want) to attract.

[MarylandsMighty]

In my opinion if you start you wont stop. Until you find a boyfriend, wont happen.

It will always be well one more month, or until I get this car paid off, or until I buy this, or I have some bills.

It just wont be possible.

If you are thinking about escorting as an answer to your inner rage towards men who use you and lose you, pleas dont.

You will hurt yourself worse.

Step back and take the time to hear all sides, review this to its fullest, and then make a conscious decision about escorting or not.

You may choose to, you may choose not.

Just be prepared for what that choice may bring, and be sure you are strong enough to handle it.

[Vicki Richter]

If she is legitimately interested in having SRS as soon as possible, the sex industry is the best way to make money.

Working at Walmart, getting raises and promotions, she would be lucky to have it done by the time she is 28-30.

The problem is girls start for one reason, then get used to the money, and they never stop. They never save for the surgery or SRS because there is always something more to buy. Shoes, cloths, cars, better place, etc.

I think someone should start a money management circle for sex workers. Every time you make $300, put away $200 of it like you never made it.

[slinky]

:evil: BlackAdder, I wasnt comparing relationships with an Xbox360. I was more trying to define what I said about "Novelty wears off". Silly LOL. :lol:

This now reminded me of a commercial on tv.."women are like coffee.." Lmao.

~Kisses.

HTG

The difference between men and women:

A woman meets a guy and marries him hoping that he will change, but he never does.

A man meets a girl and marries her hoping she'll never change, but she always does.

[slinky]

That may be your personal experience but my gut reaction says maybe you should start dealing with a different class of guy.

I thought you were going to say "stop picking up guys at twelve step meetings".

[slinky]

Which brings us to the point "Why TS women turned to doing tricks?" or "Why some women turned lesbians?" Its less complex. Sex is sex. Woman understands another woman well better than men. Work is work and everything is there at face value. You dont have to deal with any man's bs. There's no attachment involved just the fun. Im not advocating younger woman/TS women here to follow suit either. So lets make it clear.

My experience has been somewhat different. A lot of women who become prostitutes prefer men when they start, but end up in lesbian relationships because of a combination of how hooking has altered their views towards men, and having to have a sexual outlet and hooking has either turned them off to men, or they have "forced" themselves for so long not to have sexual feelings while screwing men that they can no longer "turn that off".

Interesting aside: I've had a number of working girl fuckbuddies who simply needed a guy who they could have sex where they allowed themselves to enjoy it ; so they would call me up at the end of their day (or sometimes in the middle) after fucking any number of guys and getting frustrated, and have me come over to release some pent up energy (that sex was always great).

[slinky]

I think someone should start a money management circle for sex workers. Every time you make $300, put away $200 of it like you never made it.

The only time I saw a consistent group of working girls who magemd their money well was back in the mid 1980's there were a slew of Korean girls who came here with the goal of making $125,000 (my gues is that was the standard amount to buy a business back home) and as soon as they hit that number, they were gone. These days many more of the K-Gals are here because of gambling debts and debt from being Prada whores.

There's an awful lot of pressure on women who go into prostitution not to save. All their friends are buying all sorts of luxury items all the time and it's tough to have everyone thinking you're not doing any business because you're not "keeping up with the Jones's".

Besides, who would you trust with all the money? All the girl's friend would be calling the guy (or girl) who did it a pimp (been there, done that, got the T-shirt).

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Interesting aside: I've had a number of working girl fuckbuddies who simply needed a guy who they could have sex where they allowed themselves to enjoy it ; so they would call me up at the end of their day (or sometimes in the middle) after fucking any number of guys and getting frustrated, and have me come over to release some pent up energy (that sex was always great).

True. Very "Sex and the City". LOL. So very "Samantha". 8)

Its a known fact..Most working gurls will do a "Trade" every once in awhile..i.e. "fuckbuddies". Mostly with guys they find attractive and or nice to them..whom they can relate and isnt judgemental of what they do.

IMO Fuckbuddies arent any different than any "John/s". You dont "Primp" more when he comes see you. Than one does when she see's a client. You can be in your PJ's and not worry about it. The only difference is, as a fuckbuddy..you dont pay for it..and that the gurls "hardly" even need to "Try" to please you and just be "Themselves".. Could just slouch back and enjoy being serviced and pleased by you and let loose. As opposed to if they're to meet a guy who paid them. They'll have to work it while the guy slouches back and get serviced. Work vs what gurls do in their spare time when NOT working are totally different in my own perspective Dan. :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BeardedOne]

IMO Fuckbuddies arent any different than any "John/s". You dont "Primp" more when he comes see you. Than one does when she see's a client. You can be in your PJ's and not worry about it. The only difference is, as a fuckbuddy..you dont pay for it..and that the gurls "hardly" even need to "Try" to please you and just be "Themselves".. Could just slouch back and enjoy being serviced and pleased by you and let loose. As opposed to if they're to meet a guy who paid them. They'll have to work it while the guy slouches back and get serviced. Work vs what gurls do in their spare time when NOT working are totally different in my own perspective Dan. :wink:

:shock:

Shit! :x

I've been doing it backwards all this time! :o

[slinky]

Work vs what gurls do in their spare time when NOT working are totally different in my own perspective Dan. :wink:


That was my point (and more proof as to why a lot of girls who start working end up in lesbian relationships).

And I'll bet a lot of TGirls who top for pay only bottom with fuckbuddies. Too much work, but if there's a $ in it......

PS Funny thing about being a fuckbuddy for a working girl: a lot develop this "internal clock" and even when having fuckbuddie sex, it always ends up taking 1 hour. I guess some things just become instinctive. Or maybe it was because they had more clients coming and there was only an hour in the schedule? Nah, it was even that way on their days off.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

PS Funny thing about being a fuckbuddy for a working girl: a lot develop this "internal clock" and even when having fuckbuddie sex, it always ends up taking 1 hour. I guess some things just become instinctive. Or maybe it was because they had more clients coming and there was only an hour in teh schedule? Nah, it was even that way on their days off.

Not really into lesbian relationships but Lmao@"Internal clock" :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[AllanahStarrNYC]

ok i promised the story so here it goes (even though I am really beat up from the gym right now)


When I started my transition I did not work in the sex industry. Mind you- when I finished school, I immediately starting working at nightclubs. When I started hormines a few years later, I worked at night clubs in Miami and around the country and held a job as waitress and show director at Lucky Chengs (when it was open) in Miami for four years. Through working at Lucky Cheng's I was able to pay for my living expenses my first nose job and ear pinning, hormones, some silicone, electrolysis, my second nose job-chin implant-neck lipo-eyelid surgery, and my first set of breast implants. Of ocurse this was really saving- having a roommate (which I had never had, I took one to save for surgery) and being totally focused on my transition. I worked usually about 6 nights a week- sometimes with a double gig at a night club. Mind you Lucky Chengs was a regular job- from 4:30 PM-1:00 AM usually- and it was very difficult to waitress in 5 inch heels, and do a show at the same time. The money was variable like in any service industry-some nights u made 50 dollars some nights 500. I had never really thought about escorting- but knew that is what most of the ts I did do.

That all changed when Lucky Chengs closed it's doors in Miami. I had some money in the bank to cover me for a month or so- but I still had electrolysis work to do, plus pay my bills, etc. I was stuck between a rock and a hard place because I did not feel comfortable going out and getting a regular job because I did not feel my transition was far enough yet. As well, I do not think a regular job could have afforded my to continue my transition. So I turned to escorting.

It was strange to get used to it at first- but it took off ok- and I was making money to support myself. Very quickly, I had an oppurtunity to come work in NYC for an agency which I did-because I heard of the money in NYC. That had to be one of the worst six months in my life, I was working in miserable conditions for a miserable person. But I swallowed it and I grinned anf took it. I was able to fix my teeth, pay for my grand father's funeral, save some money, plus keep my apt in Miami.

I decided I needed a break and would return to Miami for the summer and then return back to NYC to work again for the agency with the intentions of getting my own apartment withing a few months.

I go back and work for the agency and as fate would have it- I fall in love with a guy. He was not a client- he was just someone I met. Well- things took a turn for the worse with the people I worked for because my relationship starting causing a lot of problems. As well- my new boyfriend hated what I did for a living and wanted me to stop. I agreed to- but really for him and the sake of our "love". The plan was that I wpuld go back to Miami- he would get us an apt in NYC- then eventually we would move back to FL. That is why I always say I am an accidental New Yorker- because I really never had an idea of fully living here. Well- when you are used to making a certian amoutn of money and you have to get a mcuh less paying job it is very difficult to adjust to. My boyfriend never had a lot of money- but we lived in Manhattan and I payed half the bills and carried my weight even though he made like 30 times of what I was making working at a make up counter. Even little things like getting my nails done became somewhat of a luxury. Looking back at it, my bf was a real asshole and I was an asshole for staying with him. But I basically had spent all my savings, had no apt. of my own (everything was in his name), so I was stuck again. I got a job at Lucky Chengs in NYC which I started makign alot more money than I was. But my boyfriend could not stand it- he was insane jealous of my clothes, working at night- basically everything. He became more impossible to live with and became verballyand mentally abusive. Eveytime he got mad- he would hold over my head that the apartment was his and that he would kick me out without hesitation. I was always walking on eggshells and became desperate to move out. I was basically put out of love at that point with him and realized that I had stopped escorting BECAUSE HE WANTED ME TO, not because I WANTED TO. I had put my life on hold and on the back burner to focus on him and the relationship. I let myself go completely. This was all my fault-and I had let him treat me badly because in so many ways I showed him that his love was more worthy than mine.
When I finally had most of the money together to leave- and he had been threatening to kick me out again, I left when he was away on a trip to Florida. I got an overpriced tiny apartment on LES- but I was able to move. That was after two years of living with him.

I basically left him with NOTHING. No furniture- no extra money- no savings. I literally had to start my life all over again in many ways. I then decided that I need to make changes fast and quickly. So I was going to market the asset I had the easiest access to- my self and body. That is when I got started escorting again, got my website together, starting doing some movies- and well the rest is history.

That was three and half years ago and I have never looked back. I have no regrets about my decision and my life -with the oppurtunities I had had, the travel, the people I have met- could have not been better.

Yes, it is true that alot of men will just want to sleep with you or use you sexually. It is true that to a lot of men this is a sexual fantasy, fetish, and a lot will objectify you sexually. Meeting the right person is hard for anyone but it is even harder for transsexuals.

My advice to you-
Use all of those things that are negative to empower yourslef. Use your sexuality to your own advantage and not disadvantage. Do not assume that every guy who hits on you- or talks to you wants to be your boyfriend. If you really like a guy- do not have sex with him right away.
If he is really interested in you as a person- he will prove it through his actions. Only escort if you really want to change your life through it. I.E to save money, surgery, what have you. Don't just use it because to want to buy a Dior bag. Use the money as an investment- wether it be your body, life, school, etc. But don't do it because u are angry at men. Get over it.
Don't let yourself be the victim- you have enough dissadvantages as it is being a transsexual.

[BlackAdder]

He was a possessive asshole, like alot of men unfortunetly....God forbid my girlfriend wants her own money...He should have been happy that you werent escorting...Instead he threw a fit and it all went to shit for him lol....He deserved what he got, but it sucks that he put you in that position in the first place Allanah.


@ Danny, my exact same experiences working for an escort agency, although I never messed with the girls sexually even if we did come close to it often:).

[slinky]

Allanah,

You have no idea how common that story is. The only thing different with your story is the stalking afterwards, which almost every girl ends up going thru (I'm walking a girl thru it right now, but she doesn't want to do what everyone else knows needs to be done.... fucking submissives.....). And the same for so many girls who worked for me. Perhaps 80% of the times it happened exactly like that (see my post the other day about the first time the BF denies the ex-working girl some luxury item).

And you're right that it's only worse for TS's (also for GG WOC's), partly because of the lack of other opportunites which society offers to them, and the prejudices it has against them (but TS's, as you mentioned, also have the burden of being a fetish and more easily objectified. :asbestos suit on: but it doesn't help that so many TS's objectify themselves :asbestos suit off:).

[slinky]

Toughest part about dating working girls:

If you try and get them to quit the business, you're a controlling jerk. If you don't try to get them to leave the business, you couldn't possbily love them because you would allow them to keep doing that work.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I'm not sure I feel that way because that doe snot make any sense.

I have no moral, or personal issues about working in the adult business, so I do not see anything wrong with it, and I would date a guy who was in the sex industry.

Anyone who meets you, likes you, and wants to proceed to engage in a relationship with you has to accept you for who you are and what you do.

[slinky]

I'm not saying it makes sense. Of course it doesn't. But it's the way it is with >90% of working girls. Unfortunately I know from experience.

[BlackAdder]

Cosign

[brickcitybrother]

What do yall think

I think that you do not believe what you just wrote. I do not think that you want to shut down and tune out from men. I could be wrong (but I don't think so - lol ).

[chefmike]

i feel like getting naked and dancing on my webcam im so bored

:roll:

[BlackAdder]

Callin it like i see it....

[Saintrose]

Im in school right now Arianna.I go to Carolina Beauty College for Cosemetology ima post some of my designs for everyone to see4 later today.

Shalaya : keep doing your thing in terms of school etc.
It WILL pay off. Don't start escorting...nothing against girls who esciort but I think you can do waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better !

But in the end it's your life

Remember all actions have consequences

Would love to see your work/designs !!!!

[slinky]

Escorting doesn't necessarily change the girls views. Many of my girlfriend's escort and they still are very much into men. Probably a little more than they should be. None of them like escorting but it's necessary.

These sentences don't belong together. I've never been around a group of escorts who all didn't like escorting where the biz didn't change them (unless they were man hating bitch lesbians before they got into the biz... and there's plenty of those) and they were "very much into men". I'd love to be a fly on the wall listening to such a group talk. My guess is everyone but them know the biz has changed them.

I know a lot of escorts object to this characterization. And like all sterotypes, it doesn't fit every single one. But like other issues, it doesn't make it any less true (for example, GG escorts always try to downplay it when someone suggests that the majority of GG escorts suffered some form of sexual abuse before getting into escorting; but then when you survey any goup of GG escorts, you find out what the truth is. Same thing for the amount of GG escorts who have ADD or are Bipolar - much higher than the gen-pop).

[slinky]

I'm not hating on you, just disagreeing on a subject with which I am extremely familiar. But I do think you're downplaying it way to much with "it may change some people". It's not the few who are changed, it's the extreme minority who aren't. No one wants to admit it, but that doesn't make it untrue. And the vast majority of the professional literature on this subject supports this argument (although I do admit that the vast majority of what's supposed to be research on this subject is fundamentally flawed because the researchers don't know enough about the subject matter to design their studies to be both accurate and statistically significant).

[BlackAdder]

Literature-schimitarature....Ive seen it in philly...The bizness laps em up with the fast hook, chews on em awhile till they get nice and warped, then spits em out so fucked up a whole room of mind docs couldnt unravel that particular knot....

Escorting CHANGES you.

[slinky]

That's not necessarily true. It didn't change me.

[slinky]

So many negative points of view from people who probably have never escorted. I try to remain objective at best, but I'm not perfect. A lot of guys on here are speaking in terms of the girls they have met. In my opinion, no matter how many girls you know or have come across, you still don't know everything. SOME of you always have something negative to say about the girls. These are also the ones that act like the know it alls. Unless you live life on this side of the looking glass, you are going on assumption.

1) You

2) Me


Pick the one who actually has escorted.

[Deepdarkfucker]

Nah...wait until we meet...