So is the sex trade one place where colour prejudice is allowed? [Archive] - HungAngels

NRT

08-20-2010, 10:26 PM

This question keeps cropping up all the time by both GG and TS escorts. I was wondering if the threads have reached some consensus about it?

So service providers can refuse to see men on basis of colour, since it is their body. It is not a personal slight on the client. Even if the reasons are based on prejudiced or racist assumptions.The fact of the matter, it is usually black men who are discriminated against. The white clients see it that way because they dont usually face colour discrimination or prejudice, so would see it in terms of preferances and not prejudice, so one should not be 'racially sensitive' over this. Also they point out many black escorts dont see black clients either.

However few escorts would give a blanket ban on white clients if they had bad experiences, robberies, violence from any. They would not be 'traumatised' the same way as with blacks. If providers said 'no whites', publicly, like in a reverse segregation thing as in the 50s, the law enforcement, media or powers that be would stamp down on them and prosecute them for something.

This actually happened in Britain during the 50s/60s when it was legal for landlords to put signs up in windows saying 'no blacks, irish or dogs'. They find ways of arresting blacks who did the same, often after hate mobs broke the windows! In other words the dominant group does not like to be treated as the minority, or as the N-word. One episode of the Shield made this subtle point. The cops pulled over some white suspects, there response was 'save your shakedowns for the N***ers and S***ks, not us!' That is a not an uncommon occurance in LE!

Others argue that in certain countries, like Japan, there are bars, restaurants that prefer not to serve westerners, (or whites). Not due to racial prejudice, but because they dont understand the culture, language and do not wish to cause offence. So whites can experience the same thing.

Racial profiling, (or discrimination) though unfortunate is a fact of life in this trade, since it is an intimate service?
The other side of the coin is that prejudices should be challenged, not swept under the carpet or allowed. Such attitudes can be counter productive and lead to ill feeling and mutual distrust. As well as politically embarrassing which is why most countries (and also Japan as mentioned above) outlaw blatant segregation style discrimination. It wont make popular abroad!

Well would welcome views, if the boards are not bored with this topic again!

Solitary Brother

08-20-2010, 10:58 PM

The answer is this:
The same reasons why you seek an escort are the same reasons you are denied.....you are physically and mentally weak and UNDESIRABLE.

tsdvdman

08-20-2010, 11:42 PM

How many escorts (gg or tg) you hear complain about fat, stinky, funky, nasty, weird, unusually kinky etc etc WHITE clients? All the time! but they don't turn them away they just complain or talk shit about them even if the dude wants to piss and shit on them, they just say oh he was just too weird. A "brother", good looking or not, physically fit who just wants to play a little gets turned away because of the color of his skin. That shit is crazy.
I wouldn't give a fuck how hot a ts or gg escort is, if she is putting it out there or it's commonly known she don't fuck-for-money with the brothers I don't want to give her my money or this big black dick anyway. Too many others out there, and with all of the risk you're taking it just might be the one you didn't have that saved your fucking life.

Jericho

08-21-2010, 12:59 AM

Schimmel

08-21-2010, 03:59 AM

alyssaluxor

08-21-2010, 07:36 PM

Do you know that many Filipina GG sex workers that dont entertain white guys? They only entertain Asian guys because they had so many bad experience with white guys who treated them badly?

And many Filipina TS girl escorts in Asia dont prefer and avoid white client because they are mostly hard work and cheap? They prefer Asian guys mostly.

Many sex workers in Singapore dont meet Indians because they are dangerous and deadly and they just want to be safe.

Many sex workers in Bangkok doesnt meet Arab guys because they usually treat women badly!

I think the reason why girls try to avoid certain group is that because they just want to be safe and dont like any drama and trouble ;)

kisses
Alyssa Luxor

sucka4chix

08-21-2010, 08:01 PM

Bottom line is, at least in the states, that this is an illegal activity therefore it is not bound by any rules and bitches can be as fucked up as they want to be. I just choose to call them stupid racist bitches and move on.

tsparisangelline

12-26-2010, 04:23 AM

Black Tricks are NO NO's.

Willie Escalade

12-26-2010, 05:28 AM

We're all rolling the dice...and we all have to deal with karma.

TsVanessa69

12-26-2010, 05:36 AM

Black Tricks are NO NO's.
If they didn't do the things they did, they wouldnt pose a risk that some girls choose not to expose themselves to.

tsparisangelline

12-26-2010, 05:52 AM

If they didn't do the things they did, they wouldnt pose a risk that some girls choose not to expose themselves to.

Not all are bad lol.

Shady thing is I am now being selective with black clients since they can never.......

Never mind let me not make everyone hate me.

blckhaze

12-26-2010, 06:10 AM

Glass half empty mindset

Id prefer to be around people, or in this case a girl about to help me rip a nut, who liked me regardless of my color. Saves you $$$, gas, and anything extra youd lose dealign with someone half assing it.

Then again.....itd be funny to watch Kelly Shores first black penis experience.

Willie Escalade

12-26-2010, 07:49 AM

If they didn't do the things they did, they wouldnt pose a risk that some girls choose not to expose themselves to.
I'm usually cool and try and stay out of topics and conversations like this...but what exactly are these things "we" do that pose a risk?

CaptainPlanet

12-26-2010, 12:11 PM

I'm usually cool and try and stay out of topics and conversations like this...but what exactly are these things "we" do that pose a risk?

Here they go tryna stir shit up again.

natina

12-26-2010, 01:00 PM

WHITE GUYS HAVE THE HIGHEST HIV RATE
on the planet

"Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued

The AIDS crisis that ravaged the gay community in cities like New York and San Francisco may be less visible, but it is still raging, health experts earn--and a new wave of HIV infections may be about to crest.

For some time, researchers have noted that despite efforts to promote safer sex, HIV rates are climbing among young gay men. So are rates for other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis; unfortunately, individuals already infected with one STI may be at an elevated risk for contracting others, including HIV.

While some of the blame may rest with younger gays not having access to safer sex messages, a perception among young MSMs (men who have sex with men) that AIDS is no longer a serious health concern may also be driving the increased incidence in HIV. Most serious of all, however, is a tendency toward unsafe sex and other risky behaviors, such as drug use, which affect judgment and may lead to more unsafe sex-and a higher rate of HIV infection.

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.

That is not to say that heterosexuals do not also face the risk of contracting HIV; overall, just under half of the new cases of HIV in Britain were gay men, but straights were also getting infected. One main difference was that while gays seemed to be getting infected without traveling to other countries, heterosexuals--who were picking up a different strain of the virus--seemed to be contracting the virus while abroad, the article said.

"Gay men are still the most at risk of HIV infection in the UK," said Nick Partridge, the head of British AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust. "We also know that more than a quarter of people with HIV in the UK are currently undiagnosed, and they’re far more likely to pass the virus on than those who know they have it."

The Belgian study, which looked at HIV trends in Britain and Europe, was carried out by researchers at Ghent University. But health experts in the United States also cautioned that HIV remains a serious health threat here.

In a Sept. 3 release from New York-based Gay Men’s Health Crisis (GMHC), Dr. Marjorie Hill, the group’s CEO, warned, "A new wave of HIV infections is about to hit New York and we had all better get ready for it," and went on to echo that one major concern is the number of people living with HIV who have not gotten tested, and so don’t know that they have it.

However, Dr. Hill continued, a new state law requiring routine HIV testing is likely to lead to a sharp uptick in reported new cases. "Previously, patients were required to sign a separate written consent form in order to get tested for HIV," explained Dr. Hill. "Now, if you agree to a quick swab test, you will only have to give oral consent.

"When undergoing routine medical procedures or check-ups, you will be offered a standard HIV blood test to sign off on along with the battery of tests that most patients receive. Once you give your consent, it stays in effect for all your future blood tests," Hill added, going on to cite the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as projecting an estimate that says "100,000 people in New York City alone are currently living with HIV infection, but more than 25,000 of them do not know it."

Added Hill, "Most of these unknowing carriers of HIV feel and look healthy and are, in most respects. But they are missing out on treatments that could prevent them from progressing to AIDS. Plus, they are in danger of transmitting the virus to others, continuing to fuel the epidemic."

One crucial benefit of testing is that the sooner HIV+ individuals know their status, the sooner they can begin taking medication to keep the virus in check. Though there is no cure for HIV, modern treatment regimens can help many HIV+ people keep their viral loads down to undetectable levels, meaning that they have a better chance at a normal life span. But early treatment is the key, a Chicago specialist in HIV/AIDS, Dr. James Sullivan (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=109750), said recently.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)

ESPECIALLY in Europe or the UK but also true in the Americas

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)

white person is more likely to shot up a school,kill his whole family, serial kill

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6

Willie Escalade

12-26-2010, 03:48 PM

Here they go tryna stir shit up again.
I'm trying to stir up anything. I'm just tired of black males being singled out for the same things other races do. I'm also tired of all black males being grouped together. I've shown nothing but respect to all of the girls; many if them will attest to that. Because of the actions of a few, all are looked upon suspiciously...

natina

12-26-2010, 04:14 PM

WHITE GUYS HAVE THE HIGHEST HIV RATE
ON THE PLANET

"Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued

The AIDS crisis that ravaged the gay community in cities like New York and San Francisco may be less visible, but it is still raging, health experts earn--and a new wave of HIV infections may be about to crest.

For some time, researchers have noted that despite efforts to promote safer sex, HIV rates are climbing among young gay men. So are rates for other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis; unfortunately, individuals already infected with one STI may be at an elevated risk for contracting others, including HIV.

While some of the blame may rest with younger gays not having access to safer sex messages, a perception among young MSMs (men who have sex with men) that AIDS is no longer a serious health concern may also be driving the increased incidence in HIV. Most serious of all, however, is a tendency toward unsafe sex and other risky behaviors, such as drug use, which affect judgment and may lead to more unsafe sex-and a higher rate of HIV infection.

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.

That is not to say that heterosexuals do not also face the risk of contracting HIV; overall, just under half of the new cases of HIV in Britain were gay men, but straights were also getting infected. One main difference was that while gays seemed to be getting infected without traveling to other countries, heterosexuals--who were picking up a different strain of the virus--seemed to be contracting the virus while abroad, the article said.

"Gay men are still the most at risk of HIV infection in the UK," said Nick Partridge, the head of British AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust. "We also know that more than a quarter of people with HIV in the UK are currently undiagnosed, and they’re far more likely to pass the virus on than those who know they have it."

The Belgian study, which looked at HIV trends in Britain and Europe, was carried out by researchers at Ghent University. But health experts in the United States also cautioned that HIV remains a serious health threat here.

In a Sept. 3 release from New York-based Gay Men’s Health Crisis (GMHC), Dr. Marjorie Hill, the group’s CEO, warned, "A new wave of HIV infections is about to hit New York and we had all better get ready for it," and went on to echo that one major concern is the number of people living with HIV who have not gotten tested, and so don’t know that they have it.

However, Dr. Hill continued, a new state law requiring routine HIV testing is likely to lead to a sharp uptick in reported new cases. "Previously, patients were required to sign a separate written consent form in order to get tested for HIV," explained Dr. Hill. "Now, if you agree to a quick swab test, you will only have to give oral consent.

"When undergoing routine medical procedures or check-ups, you will be offered a standard HIV blood test to sign off on along with the battery of tests that most patients receive. Once you give your consent, it stays in effect for all your future blood tests," Hill added, going on to cite the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as projecting an estimate that says "100,000 people in New York City alone are currently living with HIV infection, but more than 25,000 of them do not know it."

Added Hill, "Most of these unknowing carriers of HIV feel and look healthy and are, in most respects. But they are missing out on treatments that could prevent them from progressing to AIDS. Plus, they are in danger of transmitting the virus to others, continuing to fuel the epidemic."

One crucial benefit of testing is that the sooner HIV+ individuals know their status, the sooner they can begin taking medication to keep the virus in check. Though there is no cure for HIV, modern treatment regimens can help many HIV+ people keep their viral loads down to undetectable levels, meaning that they have a better chance at a normal life span. But early treatment is the key, a Chicago specialist in HIV/AIDS, Dr. James Sullivan (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=109750), said recently.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)

ESPECIALLY in Europe or the UK but also true in the Americas

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)

white person is more likely to shot up a school,kill his whole family, serial kill

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6

tsparisangelline

12-26-2010, 07:44 PM

Black people will rape and rob your children RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They will get your whole family RUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

DarylWashington

12-26-2010, 07:46 PM

Good thing I'm so good looking that it doesn't matter if I'm black!

onmyknees

12-26-2010, 08:03 PM

I'm trying to stir up anything. I'm just tired of black males being singled out for the same things other races do. I'm also tired of all black males being grouped together. I've shown nothing but respect to all of the girls; many if them will attest to that. Because of the actions of a few, all are looked upon suspiciously...

Yea....Willie's cool by me. He seems like a stand up guy. I like his posts and his pics, and he never seems to get bogged down in some of the sophmoric shit that goes on in here. So when he asks a question, or makes a statement...I know he's sincere.

PS..Besides....he seems to know a lot of hot gurls !! LOL

Lucy157

12-26-2010, 09:18 PM

Its a silly question as some girls, both TS and GG actively seek out black guys. I have lived in countries like Indonesia where white people are called Bule, which depending on how it is said means white shit. No one feels bad because white people are rich, so the racism is acceptable. Yet Chris Rock and David Chappelle earn like 20 million bucks a year and still wheel out the old white people are racist gags.

Kunzy

12-26-2010, 10:11 PM

Black people will rape and rob your children RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They will get your whole family RUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

pls shut the hellup, u idiot!

Ihavenoclue

12-26-2010, 10:21 PM

Why do these topics keep coming up? Racism is well and alive we all know it. If a White escort refuses to see me, then I just move on to the next one. Trust me they are plenty of White escorts who see black clients. The ones that don't, well that sucks for them. As far as I know, prostitution is illegal. Once you legalize prostitution, then you can state/fed laws against discrimination. We are far from there and we won't get there. So let the racist escorts be racist and go with the ones that aren't, period.

onmyknees

12-26-2010, 10:38 PM

To belabor the point....I imagine as a black dude you feel put off by a white chic who won't see black dudes, and to some degree I suppose I understand that. I also understand the basic principals of a free market system, and so do the escorts. If they choose not to see black dudes, they probably have a reason...valid or not. Since they're in the bizz of making money, one can assume it's valid, to them at least. We get into dangerous territory by calling them racist. As many, many others have said...it has more to do with preferrence.
What do you think of sistas that don't see black clients either? And there are more than a few ! I'm not sure you could label them racist...LOL. Perhaps "selective" ? Whatever adjective, you should extend that courtsey to the white escorts as well.

cerulean

12-26-2010, 11:20 PM

Its a silly question as some girls, both TS and GG actively seek out black guys.

I was going to mention this as I see this a lot too in ads. Also aren't there black men that only date white women? I see a lot of black athletes with white girlfriends and wives.

TsVanessa69

12-26-2010, 11:29 PM

Girls have the right to choose who they see.
Plain and simple.
Black men dont help their cause when:
They call you and tell you you NEED a big black dick
that they are allegedly good looking and don't want to pay
dont have the full fee and think $40 is gonna cut it.
Steal from your home
send dick pics to you phone thinking you will be impressed
brag about how much free pussy they can get so why should they pay a man.
Maybe the problem is not the girls

tsparisangelline

12-26-2010, 11:54 PM

pls shut the hellup, u idiot!

I am just being honest.

Girls have the right to choose who they see.
Plain and simple.
Black men dont help their cause when:
They call you and tell you you NEED a big black dick
that they are allegedly good looking and don't want to pay
dont have the full fee and think $40 is gonna cut it.
Steal from your home
send dick pics to you phone thinking you will be impressed
brag about how much free pussy they can get so why should they pay a man.
Maybe the problem is not the girls

Lol so true

Willie Escalade

12-27-2010, 01:00 AM

Personal preference is personal preference...I'm just tired of all black men being grouped together. I'm speaking for the black guys I know.Ask any girl that knows me and I'm pretty sure they'll all say I'm the exact OPPOSITE of the guys you're describing.

Of course there are other girls out there who actively seek out black men; obviously THEY don't group us all together...and obviously a so-called "bad experience" didn't pit them off. And I've talked to my fair share of the girls (including my ex); I know lots of the stories. Funny the majority of them involve men who were races other than black.

And I'm pretty sure other races try to barter the price or send cock pics thinking that'll impress the girl.

If a girl turned me down because of my race, fuck it. There are MANY more to choose from; no sweat off my back.

ALL races lie, cheat, and steal. Wasn't that how America was founded anyway?

FreddieGomez

12-27-2010, 01:03 AM

why is this bullshit rehashed over and over again?

garypeters123

12-27-2010, 01:17 AM

Not all are bad lol.

Shady thing is I am now being selective with black clients since they can never.......

Never mind let me not make everyone hate me.
I don't hate you I love you. Have you done any videos or photo shoots?

Saw your Youtube Videos and you are an intriguing person.

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 02:05 AM

I don't hate you I love you. Have you done any videos or photo shoots?

Saw your Youtube Videos and you are an intriguing person.

No I have not.

Lol, awww XOXOXOXO

dopearope

12-27-2010, 02:07 AM

its up to them who they wanna see and who not..just like I aint having sex with an ugly girl, they can choose to be selective with the men they fuck.

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 02:15 AM

its up to them who they wanna see and who not..just like I aint having sex with an ugly girl, they can choose to be selective with the men they fuck.

Lol, I suppose hun.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1100502

These comments show my ugliness too.

dopearope

12-27-2010, 02:17 AM

Sorry not interested, kthxbye

giovanni_hotel

12-27-2010, 02:22 AM

giovanni_hotel

12-27-2010, 02:25 AM

Lol, I suppose hun.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1100502

These comments show my ugliness too.

You being on modelmayhem is all kinds of wrong!!!

And it has nothing to do with your looks either.

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 02:28 AM

Sorry not interested, kthxbye

Never said you had to be.

OOP i just read your previous posts and you think this is hot?

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=846175#post846175

Enough said you like bricks which I am not.

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 02:31 AM

LOLOL!!

No one cares if an escort chooses to see or not Black clients.
Girls talk as if that's something to brag about or some earth-shattering revelation, that some escorts discriminate specifically based on race, instead personality or general vibe they get off a client.

To be honest, you'd all do us a favor by starting a mega-thread where the girls who make it a rule not to ever see Black clients post their name and a pic, to save the rest of us the hassle of even wasting our time.

Girls working from the right price-point don't ever have to focus on a john's race/ethnicity anyway.

Paris and Vanessa avoid Black johns whenever possible.
Got the memo.

Next.

Lol you get so offended I LIVE!!!

You being on modelmayhem is all kinds of wrong!!!

And it has nothing to do with your looks either.

Actually I have done a few shoots but it is not something I would ever post on an ad since it would provide gov info.

audifan

12-27-2010, 08:32 AM

Yea....Willie's cool by me. He seems like a stand up guy. I like his posts and his pics, and he never seems to get bogged down in some of the sophmoric shit that goes on in here. So when he asks a question, or makes a statement...I know he's sincere.

PS..Besides....he seems to know a lot of hot gurls !! LOL

I agree :)

audifan

12-27-2010, 08:40 AM

why is this bullshit rehashed over and over again?

Because Paris has a bee in her bonnet about it; and it amuses her to provoke controversy. People can choose whether to rise to the bait. If they do, then she'll play them along. Some enjoy the banter, some get angry. But as someone said in another thread, it's a free-fire zone here. :hide-1:

Willie Escalade

12-27-2010, 09:15 AM

Eh...I'm over it...as long as I have the respect of some of the other ladies, I'm cool.

dderek123

12-27-2010, 12:44 PM

Preference or prejudice?? hmmmmm ....
YouTube - C & C Music factory - things that make you go hmmm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEsRHIi9_18)

Maybe a little bit of both?

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 04:01 PM

Because Paris has a bee in her bonnet about it; and it amuses her to provoke controversy. People can choose whether to rise to the bait. If they do, then she'll play them along. Some enjoy the banter, some get angry. But as someone said in another thread, it's a free-fire zone here. :hide-1:

Lol, if you noticed the supposed "most hated" threads have some of the most comments.

audifan

12-27-2010, 05:02 PM

Lol, if you noticed the supposed "most hated" threads have some of the most comments.

If people feel strongly about something, they say so. It's a thin line between love & hate.

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 06:27 PM

LOLOL!!

No one cares if an escort chooses to see or not Black clients.
Girls talk as if that's something to brag about or some earth-shattering revelation, that some escorts discriminate specifically based on race, instead personality or general vibe they get off a client.

To be honest, you'd all do us a favor by starting a mega-thread where the girls who make it a rule not to ever see Black clients post their name and a pic, to save the rest of us the hassle of even wasting our time.

Girls working from the right price-point don't ever have to focus on a john's race/ethnicity anyway.

Paris and Vanessa avoid Black johns whenever possible.
Got the memo.

Next.
I actually see black clients.
I see the ones who spend money and don't bullshit.
I don't have many black clients. But I do have some.
I don't see the ones who tell me how bad i want the big black dick
I dont see the ones who cant read and send texts to a land line
I don't see ones who only have nickles and dimes
I am a business woman, I am about money, not race or dick size.
Don't say shit about me or my services if you have never seen me or expierenced my services.

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 06:54 PM

If people feel strongly about something, they say so. It's a thin line between love & hate.

They both invoke passion so I must agree that the line is very thin.

I actually see black clients.
I see the ones who spend money and don't bullshit.
I don't have many black clients. But I do have some.
I don't see the ones who tell me how bad i want the big black dick
I dont see the ones who cant read and send texts to a land line
I don't see ones who only have nickles and dimes
I am a business woman, I am about money, not race or dick size.
Don't say shit about me or my services if you have never seen me or expierenced my services.

I found it funny as hell that he said personality and vibe ROFL, who in their right mind would chat with a client for longer than 5 minutes on the phone.
(unless your charging an exuberant amount like j.p I see no reason to do that.)
All I speak about is my location, donation and the time they are coming. I do not have time to have idle banter with a "possible" client.
99% of the people who talk on the phone longer than 5 minutes are just jacking off to the sound of your voice, lol.

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 06:57 PM

They both invoke passion so I must agree that the line is very thin.

I found it funny as hell that he said personality and vibe ROFL, who in their right mind would chat with a client for longer than 5 minutes on the phone.
(unless your charging an exuberant amount like j.p I see no reason to do that.)
All I speak about is my location, donation and the time they are coming. I do not have time to have idle banter with a "possible" client.
99% of the people who talk on the phone longer than 5 minutes are just jacking off to the sound of your voice, lol.
Totally agree!
HA is full of outsiders lookin in

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 07:08 PM

Totally agree!
HA is full of outsiders lookin in

The really funny thing is they continuously claim so much but yet they have not had our experiences with black men.

Sunshyne and I were in dallas and she saw a black client he took her debit card (an old one which had already been canceled thank god)

I can honestly say I have had one negative encounter with a white client (he was a wigger lol) but I have had way more discrepancies with black clientel.

If you do not see them for the 80 dollars (they have 250 on the phone but only 80 upon arrival) they will go to the front desk and snitch on what you are doing.

(this has happened twice to me and I have had to leave my hotel with police as an escort out)

If you have already spent 20 minutes with a client and he says he wants to top you (he only gave you 150) and you say it is this and that for that kinda service.
Black men want ALL their money back.
White men say "oh ok I should have asked if the half hour was full service"

I even had a black guy get mad at me because I wouldn't let him fuck me raw and he had the nerve to try to walk out with my laptop after I refused to give him is money back since I had already given him oral for 15 minutes (GAG@ me giving him oral with a condom WTF).

giovanni_hotel

12-27-2010, 09:03 PM

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 10:05 PM

giovanni_hotel

12-27-2010, 10:06 PM

Fat dick.

You wish I was a pastabelly!@@lol

SO anyone who checks your shit is a social defective???
Stop sweating yourself so hard, Paris. Trust, no one else is.

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:31 PM

The few times I've been with an escort(s), it's been face to face FIRST, in a social situation/parties in D.C. through 'friends'.

BLACK GIRLS only. COOL Black girls, LMFAO!!!

It was ALL about vibe. Yall are some arrogant, up your own ass bullshit.

Calling an ad without a solid reference is, whatever. Not.
There are better ways to get a hookup.

I have more respect for Vanessa than Paris by a long shot, but I swear yall talk so much nonsense up in here.

Vanessa KNOWS she would be the first one spitting fiya if people were up in here talking shit about PRs.
Please look up the word, 'hypocrisy', and stop LIVING it.
I call ALL bullshit.
And FYI, I do see black clients.
Just far and few black men actually have my fee. Those that do, always have a good time and become REPEAT clients.
I am a business woman, I see money.
My house, my clothes, shoes, purse speak for themselves. I live like a white woman, in an upeer middle class neighborhood where my neighbors RESPECT me.
HA is a cesspool of outsiders looking in and opinionating on shit they have never and will never expierence in ther REAL lives. Far and few would be somebody taken serious off this board.

dopearope

12-27-2010, 10:34 PM

someone post a pic of this vanessa hag

if she's as ugly as angelline i will disregard her posts from here on

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:36 PM

:fu:
someone post a pic of this vanessa hag

if she's as ugly as angelline i will disregard her posts from here on
I dont give a flying fuck what you or any bitch on this board thinks of me. I say fuck you keep it moving!:fu::fu::fu::fu:

dopearope

12-27-2010, 10:38 PM

i aint a bitch

but i wanna see your picture so i can make my decision on whether to value u as a person

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:39 PM

someone post a pic of this vanessa hag

if she's as ugly as angelline i will disregard her posts from here on
Baby let me set this straight. I'm Puerto Rican, Im always gonna get paid, and black men are always gonna want me. Don't fool yourself into thinking some looser on a rag site like this would ever stop my flo! You dick lovers got shit twisted
:fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:41 PM

:fu::fu::fu:
i aint a bitch

but i wanna see your picture so i can make my decision on whether to value u as a person
the fact that your stupid ass made that post proved you are a bitchass. Your opinion of me won't make me or break me. I already got paid today to do nothing. And its early, and I still have my 5 star rated camshow to do still. How about we just say I look better than you mother and any bitch you ever fucked and leave it at that!:fu::fu::fu:

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 10:43 PM

Fat dick.

You wish I was a pastabelly!@@lol

SO anyone who checks your shit is a social defective???
Stop sweating yourself so hard, Paris. Trust, no one else is.

Well dear if you read what I said before I said I am selective about black men in terms that they have to be decent looking or pay 400 to be seen by me.

Since they always want to top and I am unable to top a black guy (I can top a white guy but black men will turn me off if they say they want to ride a dick)

So to get so offended by my post you must be old, ugly or unable to afford 400, lol.

I call ALL bullshit.
And FYI, I do see black clients.
Just far and few black men actually have my fee. Those that do, always have a good time and become REPEAT clients.
I am a business woman, I see money.
My house, my clothes, shoes, purse speak for themselves. I live like a white woman, in an upeer middle class neighborhood where my neighbors RESPECT me.
HA is a cesspool of outsiders looking in and opinionating on shit they have never and will never expierence in ther REAL lives. Far and few would be somebody taken serious off this board.

Baby let me set this straight. I'm Puerto Rican, Im always gonna get paid, and black men are always gonna want me. Don't fool yourself into thinking some looser on a rag site like this would ever stop my flo! You dick lovers got shit twisted
:fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:

YAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 10:44 PM

So now a black guy keeps calling my eros line asking if I can do 80.

Over and over, I finally just blocked his number from calling me.

Oh and I blocked his texts, cute or not 80 is a NO!

dopearope

12-27-2010, 10:46 PM

Baby let me set this straight. I'm Puerto Rican, Im always gonna get paid, and black men are always gonna want me. Don't fool yourself into thinking some looser on a rag site like this would ever stop my flo! You dick lovers got shit twisted
:fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:

Word on the street is you are a man in a wig :wiggle:

onmyknees

12-27-2010, 10:47 PM

someone post a pic of this vanessa hag

if she's as ugly as angelline i will disregard her posts from here on

Hag ?? Maybe you should see a picture of her BEFORE you insult her. She doesn't need me defending her by a long shot...but insofar as one can know someone from her words and thoughts....I like her. She's a more expierenced ( mature) than some of the gurls on here, so she doesn't suffer fools gladly. I can relate to that !! LOL

I can also relate to the fact that it sounds like she has a full life away from this alternate reality called HA.

dopearope

12-27-2010, 10:47 PM

:fu::fu::fu:
the fact that your stupid ass made that post proved you are a bitchass. Your opinion of me won't make me or break me. I already got paid today to do nothing. And its early, and I still have my 5 star rated camshow to do still. How about we just say I look better than you mother and any bitch you ever fucked and leave it at that!:fu::fu::fu:

Doubtful, I don't put my dick in or even rest my head next to ugly hoes :dancing:

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:47 PM

So now a black guy keeps calling my eros line asking if I can do 80.

Over and over, I finally just blocked his number from calling me.

Oh and I blocked his texts, cute or not 80 is a NO!
Gag that when you called my client was getting dresed to leave. He was actually a decent black guy who gave me $150 for the half and we actually spent most of the time conversating. I was in the back room so he didnt hear our convo. shhh!

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:48 PM

Doubtful, I don't put my dick in or even rest my head next to ugly hoes :dancing:
tthis is HA. what you guys like and whats real beauty never match!

dopearope

12-27-2010, 10:49 PM

tthis is HA. what you guys like and whats real beauty never match!

Post your pic immediately.

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:51 PM

Hag ?? Maybe you should see a picture of her BEFORE you insult her. She doesn't need me defending her by a long shot...but insofar as one can know someone from her words and thoughts....I like her. She's a more expierenced ( mature) than some of the gurls on here, so she doesn't suffer fools gladly. I can relate to that !! LOL

I can also relate to the fact that it sounds like she has a full life away from this alternate reality called HA.
Why thank you sweetie, and yes I do have a life, a job and FWB to keep me busy in REALITY.
And funny I am a showgirl, which means I am PAID to appear in clubs, sometimes just for them to say they had the privilege of my prescence.
I do webcam shows, 5 star rated, OH and my dancecard is always full on a Friday and saturday nite with SEXY straight men who like top shelf dime pieces. Hardly would somebody on this site ever offend me with their bullshit.
Ask Ed, he can tell you!

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 10:53 PM

Post your pic immediately.
I have posted pics all over the site, both from events I host, shoots, and other threads where I like the topics. So bitch, look. Cuz I dont take requests from faggots

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 10:53 PM

Gag that when you called my client was getting dresed to leave. He was actually a decent black guy who gave me $150 for the half and we actually spent most of the time conversating. I was in the back room so he didnt hear our convo. shhh!

Girl I am ovah it, that black client earlier was so sickening

AHHHHHHHHH!

Word on the street is you are a man in a wig :wiggle:

Wow this reminds me of someone, vanessa clock the tea and then ignore them.

dopearope

12-27-2010, 10:56 PM

I have posted pics all over the site, both from events I host, shoots, and other threads where I like the topics. So bitch, look. Cuz I dont take requests from faggots

You are an unconvincing masculine CD, in my humble opinion/

ed_jaxon

12-27-2010, 10:56 PM

natina

12-27-2010, 10:59 PM

WHITE GUYS HAVE THE HIGHEST HIV RATE ON THE PLANET

"Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued

The AIDS crisis that ravaged the gay community in cities like New York and San Francisco may be less visible, but it is still raging, health experts earn--and a new wave of HIV infections may be about to crest.

For some time, researchers have noted that despite efforts to promote safer sex, HIV rates are climbing among young gay men. So are rates for other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis; unfortunately, individuals already infected with one STI may be at an elevated risk for contracting others, including HIV.

While some of the blame may rest with younger gays not having access to safer sex messages, a perception among young MSMs (men who have sex with men) that AIDS is no longer a serious health concern may also be driving the increased incidence in HIV. Most serious of all, however, is a tendency toward unsafe sex and other risky behaviors, such as drug use, which affect judgment and may lead to more unsafe sex-and a higher rate of HIV infection.

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.

That is not to say that heterosexuals do not also face the risk of contracting HIV; overall, just under half of the new cases of HIV in Britain were gay men, but straights were also getting infected. One main difference was that while gays seemed to be getting infected without traveling to other countries, heterosexuals--who were picking up a different strain of the virus--seemed to be contracting the virus while abroad, the article said.

"Gay men are still the most at risk of HIV infection in the UK," said Nick Partridge, the head of British AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust. "We also know that more than a quarter of people with HIV in the UK are currently undiagnosed, and they’re far more likely to pass the virus on than those who know they have it."

The Belgian study, which looked at HIV trends in Britain and Europe, was carried out by researchers at Ghent University. But health experts in the United States also cautioned that HIV remains a serious health threat here.

In a Sept. 3 release from New York-based Gay Men’s Health Crisis (GMHC), Dr. Marjorie Hill, the group’s CEO, warned, "A new wave of HIV infections is about to hit New York and we had all better get ready for it," and went on to echo that one major concern is the number of people living with HIV who have not gotten tested, and so don’t know that they have it.

However, Dr. Hill continued, a new state law requiring routine HIV testing is likely to lead to a sharp uptick in reported new cases. "Previously, patients were required to sign a separate written consent form in order to get tested for HIV," explained Dr. Hill. "Now, if you agree to a quick swab test, you will only have to give oral consent.

"When undergoing routine medical procedures or check-ups, you will be offered a standard HIV blood test to sign off on along with the battery of tests that most patients receive. Once you give your consent, it stays in effect for all your future blood tests," Hill added, going on to cite the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as projecting an estimate that says "100,000 people in New York City alone are currently living with HIV infection, but more than 25,000 of them do not know it."

Added Hill, "Most of these unknowing carriers of HIV feel and look healthy and are, in most respects. But they are missing out on treatments that could prevent them from progressing to AIDS. Plus, they are in danger of transmitting the virus to others, continuing to fuel the epidemic."

One crucial benefit of testing is that the sooner HIV+ individuals know their status, the sooner they can begin taking medication to keep the virus in check. Though there is no cure for HIV, modern treatment regimens can help many HIV+ people keep their viral loads down to undetectable levels, meaning that they have a better chance at a normal life span. But early treatment is the key, a Chicago specialist in HIV/AIDS, Dr. James Sullivan (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=109750), said recently.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)

ESPECIALLY in Europe or the UK but also true in the Americas

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)

white person is more likely to shot up a school,kill his whole family, serial kill

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 11:13 PM

Vanessa is one of the most down to earth girls you will meet and puts up with more than her share of bullshit here.

Now what has happened to the monthly party here in Chicago????

V hit me up and let me know when something is going on cuz I am clueless.
Can you believe that this dude called me a masculine CD????
I'mma let you know whats up with the partys Ed, we are moving to a different location!

dopearope

12-27-2010, 11:15 PM

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=362454&stc=1&d=1293484389

:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 11:17 PM

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=362454&stc=1&d=1293484389

:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke
LOL. beyt you wont post a pic of yourself

dopearope

12-27-2010, 11:19 PM

You bleach your skin or you got vitiligo like MJ?

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 11:22 PM

LOL. beyt you wont post a pic of yourself

You know they never do, yet they have the nerve to attack us.

And if they do post pics they are mostly fake.

CHOP 2

Silcc69

12-27-2010, 11:24 PM

Is that Jhaniah Love again LOL. Some of these stories girls are saying is killing me. I know I have tried to chat with a few escorts on aim and yahoo and they weren't on idle chit chat if you aint talkin bout $$$$ then your assed out. Though Amber on here chats wit me on aim. Though I do have to ask Paris do you give Daryl freebies? And if somebody snitched on what you were doing how on earth did the police allow you to leave w/o them doing anything to u?

giovanni_hotel

12-27-2010, 11:26 PM

I call ALL bullshit.
And FYI, I do see black clients.
Just far and few black men actually have my fee. Those that do, always have a good time and become REPEAT clients.
I am a business woman, I see money.
My house, my clothes, shoes, purse speak for themselves. I live like a white woman, in an upeer middle class neighborhood where my neighbors RESPECT me.
HA is a cesspool of outsiders looking in and opinionating on shit they have never and will never expierence in ther REAL lives. Far and few would be somebody taken serious off this board.

FTR, why did you even jump into this?? People were down on Paris, not you.
Why deliberately put yourself in the middle of some drama, clearly Paris doesn't hold the same opinion as you do.

Live like a white woman..??
I'll just leave that alone.:( (Sooo ghetto!)

Sorry to bust your bubble, Nessa, but there some of us who have met girls before NOT through an Eros ad. Truth.
And why would someone brag about paying to fucc a TG??? Or any female??

First Mimi, now Paris is your new BFF??

You really know how to pick em.:party:

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 11:27 PM

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 11:29 PM

FTR, why did you even jump into this?? People were down on Paris, not you.
Why deliberately put yourself in the middle of some drama, clearly Paris doesn't hold the same opinion as you do.

Live like a white woman..??
I'll just leave that alone.:( (Sooo ghetto!)

Sorry to bust your bubble, Nessa, but there some of us who have met girls before NOT through an Eros ad. Truth.
And why would someone brag about paying to fucc a TG??? Or any female??

First Mimi, now Paris is your new BFF??

You really know how to pick em.:party:

Bff? We have never met.

We only know each other because her ex boyfriend used to date a friend of mine.

Until the bitch and her man robbed me and shade is I took care of that bitch because clients refused to see her.

Oh and she was black..

lol

Silcc69

12-27-2010, 11:32 PM

So here is my question who do you girls pick and choose who to fuck for free? I know there some guys that get the "free 99" special just wanna know what type of guy can get that.

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 11:35 PM

So here is my question who do you girls pick and choose who to fuck for free? I know there some guys that get the "free 99" special just wanna know what type of guy can get that.

Well I was single back then and I thought daryl was alittle more hood than he actually was.

(His pics lied!)

Lol. it is a rare occasion that I actually let someone sleep with me without some kind of payment I have to be in the mood and they have to be bodied.

Of course I do prefer tats too.

Just no dreads they are NASTY!

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 11:36 PM

So here is my question who do you girls pick and choose who to fuck for free? I know there some guys that get the "free 99" special just wanna know what type of guy can get that.
tricks pay
trade fucks free
some dudes who think they are trade are tricks in denial

TsVanessa69

12-27-2010, 11:37 PM

So here is my question who do you girls pick and choose who to fuck for free? I know there some guys that get the "free 99" special just wanna know what type of guy can get that.
we judge guys the way you guy judge us
thats why its funny to me when guys think calling me ugly would offend me. I wish I was ugly, I get too much dick thrown my way.

Silcc69

12-27-2010, 11:38 PM

Well I was single back then and I thought daryl was alittle more hood than he actually was.

(His pics lied!)

Lol. it is a rare occasion that I actually let someone sleep with me without some kind of payment I have to be in the mood and they have to be bodied.

Of course I do prefer tats too.

Just no dreads they are NASTY!

There goes me out the window. Though I don't have regular nigga hair (ie naps and beady beads) and I keep mine clean.

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 11:42 PM

There goes me out the window. Though I don't have regular nigga hair (ie naps and beady beads) and I keep mine clean.

Lol i just cannot stand the look of dreads.

No matter how fine a boy is if he has dreads I lose alot of my interest.

Silcc69

12-27-2010, 11:48 PM

Lol i just cannot stand the look of dreads.

No matter how fine a boy is if he has dreads I lose alot of my interest.

Point takin now if this nigga came up and offered you 10 stacks would you do him?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pLmMug9YFkw/TLFpq4tjqEI/AAAAAAAACiU/SI1SBlN_AXg/s1600/lil-wayne-singer.jpg

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 11:50 PM

Point takin now if this nigga came up and offered you 10 stacks would you do him?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pLmMug9YFkw/TLFpq4tjqEI/AAAAAAAACiU/SI1SBlN_AXg/s1600/lil-wayne-singer.jpg

Of course any black man who has my VIP I will see, lol.

natina

12-27-2010, 11:55 PM

WHITE GUYS HAVE THE HIGHEST HIV RATE ON THE PLANET

"Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued

The AIDS crisis that ravaged the gay community in cities like New York and San Francisco may be less visible, but it is still raging, health experts earn--and a new wave of HIV infections may be about to crest.

For some time, researchers have noted that despite efforts to promote safer sex, HIV rates are climbing among young gay men. So are rates for other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis; unfortunately, individuals already infected with one STI may be at an elevated risk for contracting others, including HIV.

While some of the blame may rest with younger gays not having access to safer sex messages, a perception among young MSMs (men who have sex with men) that AIDS is no longer a serious health concern may also be driving the increased incidence in HIV. Most serious of all, however, is a tendency toward unsafe sex and other risky behaviors, such as drug use, which affect judgment and may lead to more unsafe sex-and a higher rate of HIV infection.

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.

That is not to say that heterosexuals do not also face the risk of contracting HIV; overall, just under half of the new cases of HIV in Britain were gay men, but straights were also getting infected. One main difference was that while gays seemed to be getting infected without traveling to other countries, heterosexuals--who were picking up a different strain of the virus--seemed to be contracting the virus while abroad, the article said.

"Gay men are still the most at risk of HIV infection in the UK," said Nick Partridge, the head of British AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust. "We also know that more than a quarter of people with HIV in the UK are currently undiagnosed, and they’re far more likely to pass the virus on than those who know they have it."

The Belgian study, which looked at HIV trends in Britain and Europe, was carried out by researchers at Ghent University. But health experts in the United States also cautioned that HIV remains a serious health threat here.

In a Sept. 3 release from New York-based Gay Men’s Health Crisis (GMHC), Dr. Marjorie Hill, the group’s CEO, warned, "A new wave of HIV infections is about to hit New York and we had all better get ready for it," and went on to echo that one major concern is the number of people living with HIV who have not gotten tested, and so don’t know that they have it.

However, Dr. Hill continued, a new state law requiring routine HIV testing is likely to lead to a sharp uptick in reported new cases. "Previously, patients were required to sign a separate written consent form in order to get tested for HIV," explained Dr. Hill. "Now, if you agree to a quick swab test, you will only have to give oral consent.

"When undergoing routine medical procedures or check-ups, you will be offered a standard HIV blood test to sign off on along with the battery of tests that most patients receive. Once you give your consent, it stays in effect for all your future blood tests," Hill added, going on to cite the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as projecting an estimate that says "100,000 people in New York City alone are currently living with HIV infection, but more than 25,000 of them do not know it."

Added Hill, "Most of these unknowing carriers of HIV feel and look healthy and are, in most respects. But they are missing out on treatments that could prevent them from progressing to AIDS. Plus, they are in danger of transmitting the virus to others, continuing to fuel the epidemic."

One crucial benefit of testing is that the sooner HIV+ individuals know their status, the sooner they can begin taking medication to keep the virus in check. Though there is no cure for HIV, modern treatment regimens can help many HIV+ people keep their viral loads down to undetectable levels, meaning that they have a better chance at a normal life span. But early treatment is the key, a Chicago specialist in HIV/AIDS, Dr. James Sullivan (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=109750), said recently.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)

ESPECIALLY in Europe or the UK but also true in the Americas

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)

white person is more likely to shot up a school,kill his whole family, serial kill

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6

tsparisangelline

12-27-2010, 11:59 PM

What happened to the block button?

Natina is starting to remind me of someone else who spams to much.

Silcc69

12-28-2010, 12:01 AM

What happened to the block button?

Natina is starting to remind me of someone else who spams to much.

Natina is one of the craziest and funniest posters on here.

tsparisangelline

12-28-2010, 12:11 AM

Natina is one of the craziest and funniest posters on here.

Maybe to you, but she reminds me of someone else who constantly gets banned from the forums.

You know who I am speaking of but DONT say her name.

It is like saying beetlejuice, everytime you say her name she comes.

Silcc69

12-28-2010, 12:26 AM

Maybe to you, but she reminds me of someone else who constantly gets banned from the forums.

You know who I am speaking of but DONT say her name.

It is like saying beetlejuice, everytime you say her name she comes.

BrendaTS?

tsparisangelline

12-28-2010, 12:39 AM

BrendaTS?

Nope, someone who gets on peoples nerves more than I do.

You know who I mean and please don't say the name.

P.S her an vanessa are NOTTTTTTTTTTTT friends.

natina

12-28-2010, 01:52 AM

WHITE GUYS HAVE THE HIGHEST HIV RATE ON THE PLANET

Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued

"Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued

The AIDS crisis that ravaged the gay community in cities like New York and San Francisco may be less visible, but it is still raging, health experts earn--and a new wave of HIV infections may be about to crest.

For some time, researchers have noted that despite efforts to promote safer sex, HIV rates are climbing among young gay men. So are rates for other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis; unfortunately, individuals already infected with one STI may be at an elevated risk for contracting others, including HIV.

While some of the blame may rest with younger gays not having access to safer sex messages, a perception among young MSMs (men who have sex with men) that AIDS is no longer a serious health concern may also be driving the increased incidence in HIV. Most serious of all, however, is a tendency toward unsafe sex and other risky behaviors, such as drug use, which affect judgment and may lead to more unsafe sex-and a higher rate of HIV infection.

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.

That is not to say that heterosexuals do not also face the risk of contracting HIV; overall, just under half of the new cases of HIV in Britain were gay men, but straights were also getting infected. One main difference was that while gays seemed to be getting infected without traveling to other countries, heterosexuals--who were picking up a different strain of the virus--seemed to be contracting the virus while abroad, the article said.

"Gay men are still the most at risk of HIV infection in the UK," said Nick Partridge, the head of British AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust. "We also know that more than a quarter of people with HIV in the UK are currently undiagnosed, and they’re far more likely to pass the virus on than those who know they have it."

The Belgian study, which looked at HIV trends in Britain and Europe, was carried out by researchers at Ghent University. But health experts in the United States also cautioned that HIV remains a serious health threat here.

In a Sept. 3 release from New York-based Gay Men’s Health Crisis (GMHC), Dr. Marjorie Hill, the group’s CEO, warned, "A new wave of HIV infections is about to hit New York and we had all better get ready for it," and went on to echo that one major concern is the number of people living with HIV who have not gotten tested, and so don’t know that they have it.

However, Dr. Hill continued, a new state law requiring routine HIV testing is likely to lead to a sharp uptick in reported new cases. "Previously, patients were required to sign a separate written consent form in order to get tested for HIV," explained Dr. Hill. "Now, if you agree to a quick swab test, you will only have to give oral consent.

"When undergoing routine medical procedures or check-ups, you will be offered a standard HIV blood test to sign off on along with the battery of tests that most patients receive. Once you give your consent, it stays in effect for all your future blood tests," Hill added, going on to cite the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as projecting an estimate that says "100,000 people in New York City alone are currently living with HIV infection, but more than 25,000 of them do not know it."

Added Hill, "Most of these unknowing carriers of HIV feel and look healthy and are, in most respects. But they are missing out on treatments that could prevent them from progressing to AIDS. Plus, they are in danger of transmitting the virus to others, continuing to fuel the epidemic."

One crucial benefit of testing is that the sooner HIV+ individuals know their status, the sooner they can begin taking medication to keep the virus in check. Though there is no cure for HIV, modern treatment regimens can help many HIV+ people keep their viral loads down to undetectable levels, meaning that they have a better chance at a normal life span. But early treatment is the key, a Chicago specialist in HIV/AIDS, Dr. James Sullivan (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=109750), said recently.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)

ESPECIALLY in Europe or the UK but also true in the Americas

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)

white person is more likely to shot up a school,kill his whole family, serial kill

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=50950&page=6

natina

12-28-2010, 07:41 AM

Young White Males Spreading HIV Through Risky Behavior -- A Personal Testimony

http://www.queersighted.com/2010/09/15/young-white-males-spreading-hiv-through-risky-behavior-a-pers/

A new study (http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/09/07/young-white-gay-men-are-contributing-to-spread-of-hiv-infections-in-europe-says-report/) out of Belgium has found that reckless sexual behavior among young white gay men is contributing the the spread of HIV in the UK and Europe. The study out of Ghent University looked at the genetic makeup of the HIV virus in more than 500 newly-diagnosed HIV-positive patients between 2001 and 2009 and found a majority of the group was young, white, male, and gay.

But why? What is wrong with these young white gay males? As a one myself, I have a few ideas.

For starters, I've been out for almost 10 years and have a considerable number of gay friends across the country, but I don't know a single person who is HIV-positive. It makes the risk seem a lot less real, even reading and reporting on stories like this one every day.

Secondly, those of us born in the '80s and '90s are still young enough to think we're invincible -- I hear about HIV, but surely this will never happen to me, right?

And safe sex isn't sexy. It takes time, ruins the moment, costs money. They don't use condoms in the movies or on TV, and wrapping it up destroys the moment, especially with someone new. Just like young girls who end up pregnant after having unsafe sex, sometimes you like a guy and he doesn't want to use a condom, or he doesn't have one, and you don't have the strength to put it off. Or maybe you want it as bad as he does. It's no excuse, but it's common.

Not to mention we're generally uneducated. Gays who are active in the community have the benefit of constant AIDS walks and posters telling us to be safe and get tested, but what about people who are closeted, on the down low, or just not active in a gay scene?

When I was growing up my school taught abstinence, not safe sex. The first time I saw a condom when I was a teen I got so nervous I wasn't able to perform. That was years ago and now I use one every time, but it was scary because no one had ever taught me what it was, what it meant, or even what it looked like.

I got my first HIV test at my university's student health center. They drew blood and it took four days to get the results. I had to wait all weekend to find out I was negative, and though I knew I was, the general uncertainty was nerve-wracking. I didn't tell any of my friends I'd been tested until after I got the results. The doctor was cold, as if he resented me for testing. It was a horrible experience, and I waited four years until my next test.

I just got an HIV test last week, and I had no idea how fast and easy it was. It wasn't awkward, it didn't hurt because it was the swab, and it took less than an hour for the mini counseling session and the results. It was extremely reassuring. But this time I went to a local AIDS task force that was extremely gay friendly. I didn't know going to my school's health center would be so awful, or that testing could be so easy, and, dare I say it, almost fun.

According to the research, despite increased awareness in Western countries, HIV infections continue to rise yearly, regardless of the slump in recent years. That means my generation will have higher rates of HIV than the community has now, but we don't even know what that means. Yet.

I don't know the answers on how to reach out to young people. I practice safe sex, and I'm on a schedule to get tested often now regardless of my sexual activity, because I want to be aware and I know how easy and painless it is. There are many young white gays out there like me. But there are so many like how I used to be: undereducated, confused, scared, invincible.

People need to talk to each other. Older gay men need to talk to younger gay men about sexual health, and young gay men need to know how easy it is to get tested. Sounds like common sense, but even living an active life in the gay community, so rarely is it discussed in day-to-day conversation.

I'm one of the lucky ones -- I'm healthy and safe, and mature and experienced enough to make smart decisions about sex. But if this trend continues, we'll have another epidemic on our hands. Older gays remember how horrible it was but the younger generation has no concept of it. We need to understand, and we need you to help us.

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http://www.queersighted.com/2010/09/15/young-white-males-spreading-hiv-through-risky-behavior-a-pers/
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