you look at Tranny Porn do you look at Gay porn too?

[bat1]

Cock is a cock right?

on a tgirl or guy, come to think of it most tgirls I think where
guys once!

Correct me if I'm wrong on that one:)

I admit I look at guys sometimes too I feel no shame:wiggle:

So if you like tgirls you most look at guys too sometimes perhaps?

tell the truth now! :hide-1:

[rameses2]

The ONLY same-sex pr0n I watch is girl on girl. I have no attraction to Gay porn, whatsoever. TG porn,to me, is like watching a girl use a strap-on for sex.

[murciec]

No, that would be gay. I'm attracted to TG's for their feminine physique and demeanor. Those are the things that men don't have so I'm not attracted to them.

[Nicole Dupre]

I like straight porn best, and that includes GG's with strap ons penetrating guys. After that would be tranny porn with guys and TS, then TS on TS, and then GG on GG.

I have no interest in gay porn other than solo jack off stuff. The guys in gay porn are usually hot, but I don't get horny watching men have sex with men. I also don't really get into fisting porn, but I do like toys and golden showers. I also like gang bangs and multi-partner stuff, but again I don't care about seeing guys with guys. I also like interracial with black men and white girls.

I like B&D a lot, but only light S&M, and generally I like watching women dominate men, including CBT. Rarely do I like watching men dominate women. I also like smoking fetish with women and/or TS.

Infantilism and diaper stuff does nothing for me. Sissification is not very high on my list, but I do like watching women humiliate guys.

The only things that truly disgust me are scat and bestiality.

[ILoveGG&TS]

Yes, I look at gay porn sometimes. I'm only turned by it when I see a feminine looking man sucking cock and getting fucked. I will not watch two masculine men having sex, this is just gross.

[dgs925]

I just consider tranny porn to be a subgenre of gay porn, so yes I do look at gay porn.

[traLika]

Cock is a cock right?

on a tgirl or guy, come to think of it most tgirls I think where
guys once!

Correct me if I'm wrong on that one:)

I admit I look at guys sometimes too I feel no shame:wiggle:

So if you like tgirls you most look at guys too sometimes perhaps?

tell the truth now! :hide-1:
Yeah, a cock is a cock, but you seem to be making the big assumption that we're all only interested in tgirls BECAUSE of the cock. You're talking like phobun here... ;)

I have no interest in guys on guys... period. It even took me a while to get used to the cocks on shemales... lol... it's what they're attached to that counts! (For me, anyways...)

[CaptainPlanet]

Never have never will, doesn't do anything for me, but some Hot TG porn that gets me everytime, i even gave up GG porn, because i don't need the fantasy of what i can get on the regular.

[alyssaluxor]

I love Gay porn!!! Nothing beats 2 hot guys FUKCING uhmmm!

I dont watch transexual porn!

kisses
Alyssa Luxor

[Nicole Dupre]

I just consider tranny porn to be a subgenre of gay porn, so yes I do look at gay porn.
Maybe you're talking about the way they have the DVDs sorted out in your local xxx store in Eugene. But most gay guys don't like tranny porn. And most guys into trannys don't like gay porn.

But are you one of those super-rare gay men who likes TS porn? I think there's like 3 of you, total. lol

[bulge]

Yes i do ...I can definitely appreciate Gay Porn ...TS porn and gay porn is all i really watch ..the str8 stuff bores me unless its ultra hot ..
love to see 2 fine ass dudes going at it ..definitely gets my juices flowing ...

I like to watch blow job scenes and love to see dudes cumming shooting that load out ..Mmmmmm

[laoda8]

I'm bi so I like all types of porn. I like man on ts, ts on man, man on woman, woman on man (pegging), and man on man. I'm easily turned on so I'm in the perfect sexual denomination.

[drock]

I love Gay porn!!! Nothing beats 2 hot guys FUKCING uhmmm!

I dont watch transexual porn!

kisses
Alyssa Luxor


Watching two guys fucking is disgusting to me. Now a guy fucking a sexy tranny is hot!!

[bat1]

I love it all as long as it's HOT! and not hurting anyone:clover:

[callahac]

I love gay porn. Like anything else though, it has to be guys that turn me on. Hairy guys gross me out, but nothing hotter than seeing a nice cock deep inside a guy's smooth ass. Shemale porn used to be my favorite, now it is number two, followed by bi porn than lesbian porn. Straigh porn bored the crap out of me.

My wife is cool with it too, and agrees that nothing is more gross than two sweaty hairy guys, but then again two fat ugly chicks would be nasty as well.

[mbf]

A definite and three times NO

[bte]

I tried looking at it but couldn't get turned on by it. The only porn I watch is TS on TS.

[rockabilly]

No way , no thanks.

[Solitary Brother]

I love gay porn. Like anything else though, it has to be guys that turn me on. Hairy guys gross me out, but nothing hotter than seeing a nice cock deep inside a guy's smooth ass. Shemale porn used to be my favorite, now it is number two, followed by bi porn than lesbian porn. Straigh porn bored the crap out of me.

My wife is cool with it too, and agrees that nothing is more gross than two sweaty hairy guys, but then again two fat ugly chicks would be nasty as well.

Wow
You and your wife watch gay porn together?
Im speechless.

[peggygee]

Can't say that I watch alot of porn, straight porn with the Brothers banging
out a Sister's back, girl on girl, can get me moist though.

:fuckin:

[Nicole Dupre]

This is what's known as being "mildly bi". ^ lol

[Star Angel 86]

A majority of my porn collection is mainstream porn I do have a few TS titles here and there.As far as gay porn I never watched I mean I have clips like peep show booths never an entire movie though.

[TsJizelle]

A little machofucker here and there is always a great way to spice up a lonely evening!! :) :p but i don't indulge too often. I prefer straight anal
porn :D belladonna ftw!!!!

Xxx jizelle

[bat1]

Just keep it all in the family:)

[Aimee]

never actually looked at any gay porn. i always like tranny porn as i find it easy to imagine myself in it. i could probably do the same with gay porn but it would depends. i like there to be a more feminine partisipant and don't think two hunks would appeal to me. although one would ^_^

[mbf]

:jerkoff:jerkoff:jerkoffbelladonna :Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

[flabbybody]

I just consider tranny porn to be a subgenre of gay porn, so yes I do look at gay porn.

In the old days when I was a kid (during the Truman administration) the tranny porn was always in the gay section of the dirty magazine store.
But the internet made tranny porn into its own category

[cookiepuss]

A little machofucker here and there is always a great way to spice up a lonely evening!! :) :p but i don't indulge too often. I prefer straight anal
porn :D belladonna ftw!!!!

Xxx jizelle

Just clicked on your links, you're a hottie!!!

[Nicole Dupre]

Saying that TS is a sub-genre of gay is like saying gay is a sub-genre of straight.

[cparker2009]

Im not sure what it is, I love t-girls, Ill watch them fuck and suck men all day, but two men together does nothing for me. I've tried it out and it just feels weird to me and not sexy. It's a very strange dichotomy. Men solo dont do much for me either, although for some reason that isnt as bad for me as gay porn with two men.

[fred41]

No...not at all....never had the desire to.

[SAAdmirer]

I only enjoy straight and transsexual porn, not gay and/or bi... I'm far from unique and probably in the majority on a site like this.

I'm a newcomer here, and I realize that this horse has been beaten-to-death several times over so I probably am not going to contribute anything close to an original thought. However it seems that most that start threads like this are concentrating too much on primary sexual characteristics instead of secondary ones. Most admirers are going to be attracted to transsexuals because of their outward feminine characteristics.

Just because someone has a penis does not mean admirers are going to be attracted to him. Now if she looks like a woman and acts like a woman, then having a penis is icing on the cake. Icing is great, but you need to have cake for it to be a truly satisfying experience.

[Helvis2012]

Tranny porn.

[Marco_187]

Cock is a cock right?

on a tgirl or guy, come to think of it most tgirls I think where
guys once!

Correct me if I'm wrong on that one:)

I admit I look at guys sometimes too I feel no shame:wiggle:

So if you like tgirls you most look at guys too sometimes perhaps?

tell the truth now! :hide-1:
I only like girls dude, I just dont seem to care if they have a cock.

[Thor57]

maybe, at times:Bowdown:

[giovanni_hotel]

Please no posting of man on man porn, please.

If you guys wanna see that, there are places on the internet that cater to that specific proclivity.
Same thing goes for any other kind of sexual interest.

WHy does a TRANNY FORUM have to be a catch-all for everything that involves a cock, penetration, and bodily fluids??

A little respect for the ladies and the guys who dig em, thanx.

[Instrumental]

Nah. I don't find masculine facial features or masculine physique attractive. Only thing that is enticing is what's in the pants but that's not enough if everything else is physically unappealing.

[alyssaluxor]

hmmm really? lol

kisses
Alyssa Luxor

[TsVanessa69]

Never have never will, doesn't do anything for me, but some Hot TG porn that gets me everytime, i even gave up GG porn, because i don't need the fantasy of what i can get on the regular.

I like what you said and a client said the same thing to me the other day about his visits to me. He told me he had never paid for pussy becuase he got it on the regular, but he was ok paying to see me because I was his FANTASY!

[TsVanessa69]

I do not find the female form attractive to me sexually at all. So no I don't watch gg or tg porn.
I like erotic gay porn.
Especially latino porn and porn where the boys are "gay for pay".
I only deal with tg porn if I am with a client.
Thats it

[bte]

How do you know if the guys in the movie are "gay for pay?"

[cookiepuss]

How do you know if the guys in the movie are "gay for pay?"

It's in the credits:cool:

[Star Angel 86]

I'm getting a little off topic here however after close to 30 years of watching pornI am aware of the fact that a lot of the top male talent did appear in gay porn I don't hold it against them.
Here's a brief list
Jamie Gillis (R.I.P.)
Wade Nichols (Could very well be the most under appreciated porn stud of all time had three careers going porn stud,soap star,had a Disco album on Casablanca Like Eagle back in the day Casablanca hired only the top talent,this is a guy that had 3 careers going at once and porn was totally frowned upon by the mainstream society.)
Peter North (got his start as Matt Ramsey in gay porn)
George Payne (one time boyfriend of Vanessa Del Rio and it was revealed over on another forum by Shaun Costello,that he was for the most part was gay and that's why he was always using baby oil jerking off.)
Jack Wrangler (His dad was a producer for Bonaza he grew in Beverly Hills,he was gay he did however marry opra signer Margret Whitting.)
David Morris (Best know for his pool table scene with Marilyn Chambers in Insatiable.)
Marc 10 1/2 Stevens (He for the most was gay he did date Transgender turned Post Op Jill Munroe at one time.)
Greg "Rocky" Rome (A stud from New Wave Hookers and a lad I would see hustling in the Hollyweird area during the 90's.)

[Nivek]

I've seen this argument posted so MANY times in other boards and other chats... I know my sexual preferences are not 100% STRAIGHT by any means, but what i find pleasing and sexually stimulating has nothing to do with MEN. I'm not into dudes, i'm not into my friends who I've seen naked, or Men's penises. Cock is not Cock when its attached to a MAN being a MAN for me. Transexuals for me, and hey I'm only speaking for myself... Transexuals to me are amazing because I enjoy Taking it in the butt. I can have a beautiful "Woman" strap it on, but nothing is like a beautiful Transexual i get off on the whole taboo of it. Im not into transvestites though, or drag queens, to me those are guys in make up and women's clothes.

[dderek123]

Mostly TS porn (in all its varieties). But sometimes gay porn too. My ex loved gay porn so we would watch it together when we were having it off. I guess that's when i took the bait.

[baller212]

i look ay guy on guy once in a while only when the btm is fem or has a phat ass and knows how to work but that thug on thug shit not really

[alyssaluxor]

I only watch 2 straight guys that suck each others cock and fuck each other in bed!

uhmmm! so yummy!

[TsJizelle]

me and a few of my genetic girlfriends all watch gay porn and get turned on by it hahaha
there's just something about really hot men fooling around with eachother that can be sexy sometimes!!! maybe we're all just super kinky canadian girls hahahaha

[syla]

I enjoy watching gay porn if only the top guy rips the bottoms ass in half.For me, thats how gay porn appeals to me.I have only seen two real good clips when the top literally bangs the crap out the bottom...that is so hot

[Yoite]

Does lesbian porn count as gay porn?

[BlackShemaleLover]

Already seen gay movies..but I was not hot..
So I stopped for a while.. and Love TS movies.... they are hot, really feminie.. big botties...

[rockabilly]

Only if they're butch Yoite.

[scubaman]

Does lesbian porn count as gay porn?

Great question. Technically it is but I suspect that most posters will disagree.

[callahac]

Wow
You and your wife watch gay porn together?
Im speechless.

Yep.....she isn't into it as much as I am, but she knows it gets me super hot.

[fred41]

I only watch 2 straight guys that suck each others cock and fuck each other in bed!

uhmmm! so yummy!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[fred41]

Yep.....she isn't into it as much as I am, but she knows it gets me super hot.

Out of curiosity are you into your wife sexually (without using any secondary stimulus) ?...or is she just a totally cool person to be with...because you have to admit..you are a pretty unusual couple...and just judging by what you post here (and some of the avatars you use..lol)...it seems your Bi scale leans more towards the gay side, for want of better phrasing, than anything close to being heterosexual. Did she have a problem with this...ever?

[loveburst]

Cock is a cock right?

on a tgirl or guy, come to think of it most tgirls I think where
guys once!

Correct me if I'm wrong on that one:)

I admit I look at guys sometimes too I feel no shame:wiggle:

So if you like tgirls you most look at guys too sometimes perhaps?

tell the truth now! :hide-1:

Well, the way it is(and I have asked this question also), that at soul / mental level you are looking at a genuine girl / woman, who is simply had the experience of being born into another genders body.

Now we, as humans, do not yet fully understand the mechanisms of such an event happening, but that is just how it is.

[Jake4]

I like gay porn and I look at it all the time.

[TranHeat]

I like gay porn where the bottom is slim, with little to no body hair. Twink, bareback, gloryhole blow jobs and solo cumpilations are my favorites.

[LibertyHarkness]

i watch gay porn .. like seeing abig muscleboy or bear ripping up a little twink :) but i love all porn i watch such a varied range of it ... hell i have some awesome scenes of bridget the midget that really horny little blackhaired midget female that was a legend in porn ... she sucks some mean cock and gets ironed out like a trooper :)

look at what turns on alot of straight guys watching straight porn is the cock cumming on a girl/asshole/cunthole etc .. so really to see a guy cumming in a guys asshole isnt to disamiliar i guess from it ... its still cock ejaculating ...

[tommy001]

Gay porn doesn't do anything for me so that's whay i never look at it. A girl with a cock is totally different and i can't get enough! Even when i see a pussy in heels and stockings it looks bare as there's no cock there! There is a third sex and the most beautiful are TS girls. Maybe it's not fair me saying this but i hate to hear girls going for surgery.

[LibertyHarkness]

hey tommy at least your honest about that you like TS as a fetish ...

in thailand they class us as a 3rd sex

[tommy001]

Libby i never knew you were into bridget the midget! Have to admit i like her too. After you that is!

[LibertyHarkness]

yeah i think she is fucking awesome ...i would love to shoot with some cute midget girls .. though its fucking hard finding them in uk lol usa has a few more about ....but they have to be ones that are pretty etc .. i have a few on twitter i speak to that do porn that are hot and we may try do some bits this year :)

[tommy001]

Libby i just love TS girls. If i met a ts girl i liked and we got on well together, i'd have her as my parther. No second thoughts about it! You're right too, love fetish ts girls too, Mmmm!!

[tommy001]

Hi Libby now there's a thought, you and Bridget in a few scenes!

[LibertyHarkness]

you know i would pay well to shoot with her for sure, but alas she has quit porn i am told .. or she wants some insane model fee. not sure as i dont know anyone that really knows her .. i will have to see if i cn work on it

[tommy001]

It would be nice to see something different like that. No harm to keep it in mind and keep looking! You must tell me your other fetishes some time. Any plans for vids coming up? Did i hear Tiffany mentioned?

[LibertyHarkness]

i am busy sorting out the revamp of my website at moment for thus year, will change over in feb to the new frontend and new look backend and i am busy sorting out shoots, and setting up new shoots over the next 8weeks 16 scenes to do :) for the revamp as i want it to have 6 new scenes immediately then 10 stacked up in the updates ahead for people to see and just keep feeding it ..

I have lots of creampie shoots coming up :) with some amazing uk female models :) some TS on TS with hollyharlow, Jordan JAy, Sammi Valentine , some usa girls and a good stack of boys fucking me .. my boys christian , jeff, edd ..

[onmyknees]

i am busy sorting out the revamp of my website at moment for thus year, will change over in feb to the new frontend and new look backend and i am busy sorting out shoots, and setting up new shoots over the next 8weeks 16 scenes to do :) for the revamp as i want it to have 6 new scenes immediately then 10 stacked up in the updates ahead for people to see and just keep feeding it ..

I have lots of creampie shoots coming up :) with some amazing uk female models :) some TS on TS with hollyharlow, Jordan JAy, Sammi Valentine , some usa girls and a good stack of boys fucking me .. my boys christian , jeff, edd ..


I think the verdict is in............you're insatiable......and tell Sammi I dig her new hair color

[mrtrebus]

I don't

[RallyCola]

gay porn is like scat porn or hardcore bdsm...it turns me off. i only watch what turns me on.

i'll give you the best example...i love mandy mitchell. i think she is cute and one great performer. some of her stuff...like the clothespin scenes, turn me off completely...just not my cup of tea...so i avoid those scenes....but that is a girl i like to watch. gay porn has nothing to offer me at all so why watch it.

[LibertyHarkness]

i need to have a very big year this year with my modelling work .. i am cracking on basically i am 34 i dont really want to be modelling past 36 if i can help it .. i want to be focuseed soley behind the camera running my new sites, shooting for others and focussing on my transitioning etc x

[StinkyPete1000]

Straight porn, tgirl porn, and lesbians. That's it. In fact, when it comes to tgirl porn I only watch guy on tgirl or tgirl on tgirl. Watching a tgirl fuck a guy is not attractive to me at all.

[martin48]

Never watch porn.

"Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal."

no - never come across any

[jerseyboy72]

I dont watch gay porn. I really don't watch more porn at all.

[irvin66]

No, I do not like gay porn!!!!! I like ladies not men!:geek:

[irvin66]

Gay porn doesn't do anything for me so that's whay i never look at it. A girl with a cock is totally different and i can't get enough! Even when i see a pussy in heels and stockings it looks bare as there's no cock there! There is a third sex and the most beautiful are TS girls. Maybe it's not fair me saying this but i hate to hear girls going for surgery.
:iagree: :)

[SpoogeMonkey]

Cock is a cock right?


Good question. Occasionally I'll drift off into a bit of gay. I only like penetration vids, I dont want to see blokes kissing, or sucking cocks. I like to see a femme boy get it, so zero body hair thanks.

Then I get a bit bored and either go for some Lesbian action or back to the shemales.

I dont look at straight porn, I find it boring unless the girl is ultra cute.

However, my erection is full on with straight porn, i can soft wank on shemale stuff and its a literal toss up with the lezzas.

Weird aint I..

[wbmando]

No way. There's a big difference.

[LatinLover]

No , I don´t like gay porn .

[ashymon]

I am not into gay porn at all. I dont mind a woman with a cock but hairy dudes do not turn me on at all.

[IHEARTKALENA]

Not at all..

[talldudeil]

Cock is not cock, gay porn makes me sick, however a good looking t-gurl that has that little or big extra is exciting as hell

[Yeah]

No. why would anyone want to

[TRANSEXUAL TOP BELICE]

I dont watch gay porn. I really don't watch more porn at all.



you dont watch gay porn
but you like girls with. more
muscular body then you

what would be call that?

[smallville3]

yup sure do..makes me want to be with a man sometime....

[chromeheart44m]

no no

[fuckstudent]

I don't. I simply don't find male body attractive unfortunately (99% of the men i see). Maybe i would try it with a guy some day, but the problem is the male body simply disgusts me, except very rare cases. Also kissing would be a no go, it would be only for the pleasure of anal and oral sex and not because i would want his body and soul.

I watched gay porn a few times offcourse, but didn't feel the same big desire for sex as when watching women and t-girl porn and their beautiful bodies.

[RallyCola]

i have only purposefully watched 1 gay scene but i have been fooled many times into gay scenes.

the latter first...some brazilian scenes (one with "ruby" when he was a dude and matheus and a bunch of tgirls as well as one scene with alexia nogueira and 2 dudes come to mind) ended up having a bit of dude on dude sucking in it that i saw mistakenly because i didn't know it was in that scene and i just never watched those again, because it killed my boner. also, the dvd, britanny's transformation with britanny coxx had unexpected gay content as they showed "stonie's" gay sex scenes in the beginning. i didn't care for that dvd so i don't have it anymore.

now the former...so when i first found out about "kayla coxx" being lexx parker, I was turned off and stopped watcing kayla's scenes. but i realized that i really liked to watch kayla get fucked to I started watching again. i ended up seeing a clip where tom moore and chris dano bang lexx parker in a bit of double anal...i didn't care for it.

[nysprod]

Cock is not cock, gay porn makes me sick, however a good looking t-gurl that has that little or big extra is exciting as hell

If gay porn makes you sick, how do you think looking at your avatar makes us feel?

[giovanni_hotel]

The only 'gay porn' I find mildly interesting is a shabby looking CD getting plowed from the back.

[timid1]

Occasionally . But I don't find men attractive generally, and a lot of gay porn is too aggressive for my liking. I've never tried sex with a gay man, altho' I have a gay friend who is older than me, very camp, and with a fantastic sense of humour. He is posh and very non threatening, I would love to of tried sex once with him. But generally I find gay porn a turn off. Whereas TS porn is my first choice if I'm to switch on my Mac for some "fun" :)

[robertlouis]

If gay porn makes you sick, how do you think looking at your avatar makes us feel?

LMAO and also very true. Posters who wave their own cocks around on HA strike me as a very odd breed.

[littletwink]

Gay porn and shemale porn are different. I'm into the latter, but not the former.

[evilguy919]

Only TG porn, I don't feel turn on at gay porn at all, actually it quite the opposite.

[Merkurie]

Watching two cute guys doin it can be hot. But gay porn usually does work out like that. It usually turns into some man shit, and I get turned off. Gay porn is in a different head space than I like, men are just different, there is more to it than just bunch of cocks. And gay men are men who are into men and man sex.

Emo and Yaoi pron is sexy though. I just need feminine energy to get turned on, even if everyone has a dick, masculinity grosses me out. For the same reason dyke porn grosses me out too. Its like there is a line you can walk up to, but cross it and I am done.

[fivekatz]

Nope, gay porn just doesn't do it for me.

[MDM23]

Gay porn is usually better, ts porn in general is boring lol

[blackshemalelove]

i mainly watch ts porn these days only some gg....but never gay porn....part of the reason is that i dont like it....and other part is hat i am affraid what if i like it just like i am luving ts now? will i be hunting for gays? i think im good with ts only

[alpha2117]

I have no idea why girls find males attractive - I find masculinity a huge turn off so gay porn doesn't work for me. Genitalia isn't the issue it's the rest of the package.

[Bribi]

Not, I don't like gay porn.
Even in shemale porn, I don't like guys (a guy f-ing a shemale, I like, but not the opposite)

[aboutthezote]

Not much, I do prefer to see the girl in the TS porn fuck the guy but that's just because I'd like them to fuck me.

I find gay porn either way to hairy or way to... erm gay... if you know what I mean I don't mean that's a bad thing just not for me.

Have been thinking of joining in with some bi MF couples which might be fun... MT would be better of course.

[BlkScorpionMan]

I like TS porn!

[Legfetishnyc]

Looked at a few gay porn, just to see if it was only the dick, i.e. a gay urge, but no, i like the ts porn but not gay. Funny side note, if I've seen a male actor in some great m/f stuff and liked his work, then seeing someone like peter north get plowed from behind was pretty arousing. Go figure :)

[marc16]

From time to time but not very often only like black gay porn but like all trany porn

[angelboi]

Simple. No.

[fordly66]

No gay porn for me.

[morim]

No, I like only straight and TS porn.
To be honest when I look at TS porn I like girls in passive role only, except for oral sex.
I don't know why, but in my mind women are passive, every kind of women, T or not T.

[kauaibowls]

I'm stimulated by ts imagery and not by the male physique.

[Donkey]

I just need feminine energy to get turned on, even if everyone has a dick, masculinity grosses me out. For the same reason dyke porn grosses me out too.
This.

[callahac]

I like Gay porn

[apple112]

No only ts porn i need the female element otherwise it doesn't work for me

[CORVETTEDUDE]

NO, I don't consider myself gay, just twisted!!

[davidjordan]

I don't care for gay porn per se, but I do like seeing well-hung imagery, male or femal(esque). When looking at TS porn, I basically "put up" with any male imagery in it.

[Willie Escalade]

I like happy porn.

[smoothboi]

I watch femdom, gay bdsm and ts porn.

[alberto escobedo]

no, wel, ihad ner asked that before t be honest, i just dont like men, althug i like cocks, its kind of confusing for other people, not for me, i just like transsexuals and bological women, its the only thing that matters to me

[idrrobot]

someone has to be able to pass as the girl, no matter what's between their legs, and the more the better.

I bought a transsexual DVD once, and was really getting into it, with 2 dudes and a tranny, soon the tgirl was left alone to masterbate, and the 2 dudes where on each other within the first 5 minutes of hitting play; i went limp in 2 seconds flat. i was so mad i busted up the DVD and tossed it in the garbage.

[Rockit_]

someone has to be able to pass as the girl, no matter what's between their legs, and the more the better.

I bought a transsexual DVD once, and was really getting into it, with 2 dudes and a tranny, soon the tgirl was left alone to masterbate, and the 2 dudes where on each other within the first 5 minutes of hitting play; i went limp in 2 seconds flat. i was so mad i busted up the DVD and tossed it in the garbage.

Damn, it was that bad?

[finultimo]

i don't like male-male porn, if a girl have a cock is ok but masculinity is not for me

[Titan011600]

When I first started watching TS porn, I thought that made me gay, or at the very least bi, so I checked out some gay porn. Turns out, I just like the cock. I was not attracted to men. So, as awesome as a dick is on a chick, it is the chick that attracts me to it.

[danthepoetman]

T-girls are girls! There's no reason why you would necessarily watch gay porn just because you're watching porn with t-girls. In fact, I'm starting to wonder if porn with t-girls would be a different type of porn if girls were only bottoming. (There's nothing wrong of course with gay porn or girls topping; that's not what I'm inferring, in case anyone think so again). I don't want to offend anyone, but in my opinion, gay porn doesn't have anything to do with t-girls and, although I can't speak for t-women, I find the comparison a little bit offending for them...

I watch regular porn and porn with t-girls...

[maddygirl]

Looool. Some of you seem so obsessed with shlongs, sheesh. There's more to life than penises. Go figure. That said, I don't necessarily think liking TS porn means you also like gay porn. ;-)

[youngblood61]

Tgirl porn only!:)

[alyssaluxor]

Most TS admirer/chasers will suck cock of a guy if you put a wig on him from my experience

[Ananke]

TS only..please! gay porn is a no no!

[want2gape_cd]

T-girls and only when they are bottom. Nothing turns me off more than a guy sucking cock or getting fucked. Even if it's a tgirl he's sucking or getting banged by. Just my $0.02.

[Prospero]

Nope... not at all. Only in the context of sex with a transsexual

[MacShreach]

Most TS admirer/chasers will suck cock of a guy if you put a wig on him from my experience
You definitely need to broaden your dating pool, gorgeous. xx

[MacShreach]

A few years ago I had several site memberships and would buy DVDs when I could find them. Then, increasingly, I found I'd get half way through a great scene and then the whole thing would be on its ear and the girl fucking the guy, fun over. I gave up in the end. I kept all the good stuff and binned the rest, stopped all my memberships.That's probably why I'm so shit at identifying girls now.

Gay porn? Why? I have to look away every time the camera focusses on the guy in GG and TG porn, why suffer? I think that's really for gay guys.

[Willie Escalade]

someone has to be able to pass as the girl, no matter what's between their legs, and the more the better.

I bought a transsexual dvd once, and was really getting into it, with 2 dudes and a tranny, soon the tgirl was left alone to masterbate, and the 2 dudes where on each other within the first 5 minutes of hitting play; i went limp in 2 seconds flat. I was so mad i busted up the dvd and tossed it in the garbage.


damn, it was that bad?
lol!

[flabbybody]

Most TS admirer/chasers will suck cock of a guy if you put a wig on him from my experience
essentially true. It doesn't take much

[EZWind]

....only by accident, and then not for very long at all
...an old girlfriend of mine introduced me to the joys of vibrator/strapon activities and I've been hooked ever since. Tho I have no problem viewing a nice photogenic phallus, the last thing in the world I want to see is 2 hairy ass stubble faced dudes making it. I love Women...with or without the bonus package

[JaseLeeds]

I look at both, but mainly TS / TV ;)

[Dino Velvet]

Y'know the biggest problem with gay porn? No broads.

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

Nope. Sorry but I dig femininity and although some gay men may have traits of "girlieness" with their mannerisms and voice pitch I'm not into dudes. It's very visual for me and the MORE a girl is unclockable the better. I have seen some CD's that are very convincing as is the case with one who goes by the name "Samantha" and in that particular case would probably be my one exception. Besides, a gay man is exactly that......a man.

[Jimmy W]

Back in ancient times, I bought a VHS called Bitanic which was a parody of some famous movie. The girl on the box looked JUST like Kate Winslet (don't remember her name and I don't think she did too many scenes) to me so I couldn't wait to see her. For the time it had OK production values and the sex scenes 'Kate' was in were - meh, lackluster, but, the scenes where burly guys started caressing each other and kissing.... well, no, not for me. Among the list of things that don't turn me on, I have to say that guys and gay porn are in the top ten.

[Willie Escalade]

But it WAS called BItanic...figures some dude named Dirk would be in it lol.

And with this post, we've ALL viewed gay porn. Sorry!

[EZWind]

But it WAS called BItanic...figures some dude named Dirk would be in it lol.

And with this post, we've ALL viewed gay porn. Sorry!

...damn if that doesn't look like Matthew Broderick there gobbling the knob on the back cover :hide-1:

[danthepoetman]

Y'know the biggest problem with gay porn? No broads.
LOL
:iagree:
It feels like this...
http://www.desicomments.com/wallpapers/desert/desert_28.jpg

[Jimmy W]

But it WAS called BItanic...figures some dude named Dirk would be in it lol.

And with this post, we've ALL viewed gay porn. Sorry!


WILLIE!!!!!
You found it! What is the name of the 'Kate Winslet' actress?

[Jimmy W]

that guy does look like Matthew Broderick...no surprise there...........

[snow6748t]

nope - don't even like guys in the pics/video - Girls yes

[angelboi]

I like looking at cocks but they have to be attached to hot t-girls, not gay guys.

[Jericho]

I like electric cookers, I'm not that keen on gas fridges! :shrug

[youngblood61]

It's not the same for me. Just tranny porn!:)

[robertlouis]

Nope.

[bzzzay]

nope

[syla]

Sometimes the quality of the gay porn is super hot. Where the guys will be like literally making love and you see it almost beyond porn. That is gay porn worth watching. Most of it is unfortunately kinda gay-for-pay stuff though. Hmmmm.

[syla]

Shit. I just answered that question...um, ahem no I don't watch it guys..

[LibertyHarkness]

i would imagine at least 3/4 of the people signed up here do :)

[youngblood61]

i would imagine at least 3/4 of the people signed up here do :)That's pretty high Libby.:)

[LibertyHarkness]

Well look at how many actual registered users there on the site ,, then look at how many actually post on threads etc , its quite a small amount of people that actually interact .. so what are these masses of others doing ? wanking off etc ,, so yeah on that basis I would say the majority share do :)

[smoothboi]

I do. I really like watching guys on cam4.

[danthepoetman]

Well look at how many actual registered users there on the site ,, then look at how many actually post on threads etc , its quite a small amount of people that actually interact .. so what are these masses of others doing ? wanking off etc ,, so yeah on that basis I would say the majority share do :)
I'm not sure I follow your logic, lady Libby. You mean to say that if they don't interact, there's more probability that they're gay or bi? I'm not sure I understand why they would watch more gay porn because they don't participate to the exchanges...

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

Well look at how many actual registered users there on the site ,, then look at how many actually post on threads etc , its quite a small amount of people that actually interact .. so what are these masses of others doing ? wanking off etc ,, so yeah on that basis I would say the majority share do :)

Interact in what way? Like when a girl says she's on cam and no one from here goes to the site to pay? That kind of interaction? Please be more specific.

[LibertyHarkness]

i am talking about how many thousands of users are registered on this site ... then look at how many people post, its a small percentage of that total number that actually interact on threads etc ,, they are what we call lurkers ..just come onto forums etc to wank etc .. follow links etc ...

So aka i would say a big chunk of that would lead to alot of them most likely get off on straight/gay/tranny porn .. they are on forums to jack off basically, so yeah i would say a big chunk of the lurkers are most likely into gay porn too ..

Now do i think 3/4 of the active members of HA are into watching gay porn ? personally i would put my bet at about half maybe like watching cock etc ..

Its just numbers .

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

i am talking about how many thousands of users are registered on this site ... then look at how many people post, its a small percentage of that total number that actually interact on threads etc ,, they are what we call lurkers ..just come onto forums etc to wank etc .. follow links etc ...

So aka i would say a big chunk of that would lead to alot of them most likely get off on straight/gay/tranny porn .. they are on forums to jack off basically, so yeah i would say a big chunk of the lurkers are most likely into gay porn too ..

Now do i think 3/4 of the active members of HA are into watching gay porn ? personally i would put my bet at about half maybe like watching cock etc ..

Its just numbers .

I don't consider TS porn or a TS forum "gay". The girls on here who haven't had SRS imho are exactly that girls but with a cock. The fact they have a cock and the fact I'm attracted to them with it doesn't necessarily make me gay. I'd call it more like a sexual fetish. The thought and sight of men having sex is repulsive to me. So I guess I'm saying I fall into the 1/4 of people on here who isn't and will never be into or attracted to gay porn.

[danthepoetman]

i am talking about how many thousands of users are registered on this site ... then look at how many people post, its a small percentage of that total number that actually interact on threads etc ,, they are what we call lurkers ..just come onto forums etc to wank etc .. follow links etc ...

So aka i would say a big chunk of that would lead to alot of them most likely get off on straight/gay/tranny porn .. they are on forums to jack off basically, so yeah i would say a big chunk of the lurkers are most likely into gay porn too ..

Now do i think 3/4 of the active members of HA are into watching gay porn ? personally i would put my bet at about half maybe like watching cock etc ..

Its just numbers .
OK, I get it: you don't necessarily connect the fact that they don't participate and the fact that they're watching gay porn. You mean that on the one hand they're lurkers, and on the other, a good bunch might be gay too. Am I reading you properly?
Of course, you're right: it's obvious that about one member out of 10 is posting only. But I would tend to think with Sulka that HA not being a gay site, there might not be such a great proportion of gay men. Gay men are interrested in "men", they're interrested in masculinity. Femininity is most often irrelevant to them if not often repulsive. Then again I would agree with you that there is a lot of guys who are interrested in cocks, almost more than in the girls attached to them...

[be2378]

No. Only like tranny porn.

[LibertyHarkness]

OK, I get it: you don't necessarily connect the fact that they don't participate and the fact that they're watching gay porn. You mean that on the one hand they're lurkers, and on the other, a good bunch might be gay too. Am I reading you properly?
Of course, you're right: it's obvious that about one member out of 10 is posting only. But I would tend to think with Sulka that HA not being a gay site, there might not be such a great proportion of gay men. Gay men are interrested in "men", they're interrested in masculinity. Femininity is most often irrelevant to them if not often repulsive. Then again I would agree with you that there is a lot of guys who are interrested in cocks, almost more than in the girls attached to them...

You forget the core of men into TS are interested soley in the cock aspect .. take that away and most run a mile .. you dont need to look further than our own forum with remarks about post op to see that :)

Also i base it in on Tranny social dating sites, webcams, escorting etc ..

I am not trying to dig anyone out here, i am merely stating my view on this thread title .. based on my interactions with people over the last 17 years since being an adult . Alot of guys love cock thats fine ,, doesnt mean they are gay , but they will happily watch videos of cocks cumming, be it on a tranny or a twink looking guy etc .. end of the day a cock is a cock .. is all i am saying .. as some one pointed earlier "TS are a fetish to most men"

Myself I will watch anything really ,, i have cum to allsorts of porn ,, generally though my preferred porn is always Lesbian or Solo Female erotic stuff as myself I am attracted mostly to women ..

You dont need to be gay to get off on gay porn, gay sex activities ,, a client sucking my cock is a Homosexual sexual activity at the end of the day ..but yet these clients will be married etc they just like the cock ... see what i am saying :)

[danthepoetman]

You forget the core of men into TS are interested soley in the cock aspect .. take that away and most run a mile .. you dont need to look further than our own forum with remarks about post op to see that :)

Also i base it in on Tranny social dating sites, webcams, escorting etc ..

I am not trying to dig anyone out here, i am merely stating my view on this thread title .. based on my interactions with people over the last 17 years since being an adult . Alot of guys love cock thats fine ,, doesnt mean they are gay , but they will happily watch videos of cocks cumming, be it on a tranny or a twink looking guy etc .. end of the day a cock is a cock .. is all i am saying .. as some one pointed earlier "TS are a fetish to most men"

Myself I will watch anything really ,, i have cum to allsorts of porn ,, generally though my preferred porn is always Lesbian or Solo Female erotic stuff as myself I am attracted mostly to women ..

You dont need to be gay to get off on gay porn, gay sex activities ,, a client sucking my cock is a Homosexual sexual activity at the end of the day ..but yet these clients will be married etc they just like the cock ... see what i am saying :)
Yes, I do, Libby. And you understand that I was not challenging you, on the contrary; I just wanted to understand your point of view. And I must say that basically, I agree with you.

[bluesoul]

Gay men are interrested in "men", they're interrested in masculinity. Femininity is most often irrelevant to them if not often repulsive. Then again I would agree with you that there is a lot of guys who are interrested in cocks, almost more than in the girls attached to them...

actually i disagree with this. there are a few threads on this board dedicated to femboys (feminine boys). so i don't believe gay men are strictly interested in masculinity. some might be, but it seems that a large portion of the men here believe that just because someone isn't masculine, it means they're not gay. for example, there are twinks which i believe would be more popular here than others because they're the more effiminate.

infact, here is one of the most popular threads (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=943041) on this board, dedicated to sissies, crossdressers and tv's

and here is another thread (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=48444&page=111), this time specifically narrowing down to latin crossdressers

[MacShreach]

Well, to put all that another way...Libby, do you think that men who hide their interest in TS, to the point of not even raising their heads above the parapet here (where they are amongst fellow-travellers), are more likely to be interested in watching gay porn, than those who are more open about things and at least prepared to discuss them here?

I have a hunch you're right, but I am curious about why that might be.

[danthepoetman]

actually i disagree with this. there are a few threads on this board dedicated to femboys (feminine boys). so i don't believe gay men are strictly interested in masculinity. some might be, but it seems that a large portion of the men here believe that just because someone isn't masculine, it means they're not gay. for example, there are twinks which i believe would be more popular here than others because they're the more effiminate.
infact, here is one of the most popular threads (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=943041) on this board, dedicated to sissies, crossdressers and tv's
and here is another thread (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=48444&page=111), this time specifically narrowing down to latin crossdressers
I think you're putting your finger on the main question, Bluesoul. You're right: there is a grey zone here, that we seem to explore a lot on HA, between what could be called homosexuality and heterosexuality. And you are right indeed that certain interrests should be more called to be within the former rather than the latter. I even admit myself, who would usually call myself hetero, that I do sometimes -and this is new for me- find myself in this zone without thinking about it. Of course, I was in my post evoking a pretty standard definition or expression of homosexuality.
But then, does that mean that we're bisexual? Or should it mean that we shouldn't even try to tag ourselves in such a way? I've been leaning for a while toward the idea that these tags are meaningless. I was mostly trying to show Liberty that I understood and basically agreed with her last statement.


Well, to put all that another way...Libby, do you think that men who hide their interest in TS, to the point of not even raising their heads above the parapet here (where they are amongst fellow-travellers), are more likely to be interested in watching gay porn, than those who are more open about things and at least prepared to discuss them here?
I have a hunch you're right, but I am curious about why that might be.
Oh! yes, of course. I really didn't get it, I must admit. Thanks, Mac.

[bluesoul]

But then, does that mean that we're bisexual? Or should it mean that we shouldn't even try to tag ourselves in such a way? I've been leaning for a while toward the idea that these tags are meaningless. I was mostly trying to show Liberty that I understood and basically agreed with her last statement.

i don't see the reluctance of having a tag on yourself. the transgender community is already tagged under the umbrella of LGBT. this is done for a number of reasons.

what possible reason could you have for not associating with a similar tag?

[Quiet Reflections]

I'm simply not turned on by it , plus watching two men kiss is a huge boner kill even if they are twinks

[danthepoetman]

i don't see the reluctance of having a tag on yourself. the transgender community is already tagged under the umbrella of LGBT. this is done for a number of reasons.

what possible reason could you have for not associating with a similar tag?
Why would you need such tags? Live and let people live! There's no need to put labels on them nor is it to encumber yourself with one. Just relax and enjoy yourself, or else have a Scotch with me, would you?

[bluesoul]

Why would you need such tags? Live and let people live! There's no need to put labels on them nor is it to encumber yourself with one. Just relax and enjoy yourself, or else have a Scotch with me, would you?

labels such as gay, lesbian etc exist because they define who someone is as well as showing other people (who are gay and lesbian etc) that they're not alone.

for example: the lgbt community usually steps in (as it did when eva lin was attacked (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=75528)). do you think the help would have been as immediate if labels didn't exist?

in fact: read this post (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1286146&postcount=84)

the only reason why i see people not wanting to be labelled is because they're embarrassed by what label they know they will fall under. because you never see anyone not wanting to fall under the straight category. in fact, everyone wants to fall under there :)

and i don't mind scotch, but i prefer whiskey

merci de demander

[CORVETTEDUDE]

No Gay porn for me. My attraction to transsexual ladies is not predicated on whether they do or don't have a dick.

[MacShreach]

Why would you need such tags? Live and let people live! There's no need to put labels on them nor is it to encumber yourself with one. Just relax and enjoy yourself, or else have a Scotch with me, would you?
Welll...descriptions, labels, taxonomies, typologies, call them what you will are useful as long as they are of benefit to the person being described. As simply academic descriptors they're neutral (usually) but as epithets and attempts to put people into categories which the user does not identify with (to other them) they're dangerous and divisive. You have to be sure which you're talking about.

However, we do need them, and I think Bluesoul is right: as long as tags and taxonomies are ones that we are happy to be associated with, they can't really be harmful.

You'd have to come from the next galaxy not to realise that there are significant numbers of men who use transsexual porn and real transwomen to explore areas of their sexuality that they are very uncomfortable being open about. That is damaging to transwomen in that it encourages them to make life-choices they might not, under other circumstances. Libby mentioned what happens when a girl gets SRS and we have seen here, and I have seen elsewhere, the most bitter condemnation of these girls by men whose ONLY interest in them is as sexual fantasies.

Now it might not help some girls' bank-balances, but I personally think it would be better if some of these men accepted the real nature of their sexuality, and the only way to do that is to make the terms less pejorative and offensive. I mean, if you are gay, but in denial, and resent being called gay because you think the term is offensive, then that may in itself lead to homophobic behaviour.

(I personally (just me) think that a great deal of homophobic violence and slur comes from men who simply cannot deal with the fact that, for example, they find a cute trans or femboy ass hot as fuck. It just torments the hell out of them. Same applies to cock.)

If such men then go on to use transwomen, and attempt to prevent them from following the path appropriate to them, for example saying they should not take hormones because they won't get hard, or using lies and misinformation to persuade them not to have SRS, then that is not merely homophobic but transmisogynistic and transphobic.

Let's make no mistake, these men can make life dangerous for transwomen, in the most extreme cases, and we do need to be able to talk about it, which means using terms and taxonomies, in order to help; and it's not the transwomen who need the help here, or at least, not directly, but the men.

Anyone wants to put a label on ne, BTW, I am a confirmed arse-bandit. It just has to be attached to a girl...

[danthepoetman]

labels such as gay, lesbian etc exist because they define who someone is as well as showing other people (who are gay and lesbian etc) that they're not alone.

for example: the lgbt community usually steps in (as it did when eva lin was attacked (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=75528)). do you think the help would have been as immediate if labels didn't exist?

in fact: read this post (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1286146&postcount=84)

the only reason why i see people not wanting to be labelled is because they're embarrassed by what label they know they will fall under. because you never see anyone not wanting to fall under the straight category. in fact, everyone wants to fall under there :)

and i don't mind scotch, but i prefer whiskey

merci de demander
I think we'll have to disagree on that one, Bluesoul. Yes, there is a problem of intolerance, and it might help to fight it. But if we were to just stop labelling alltoghether, there wouldn't be any such hostility anymore. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in magic. But I just feel it would be a step to ignore it and act as if it was ridiculous of anyone not to.
Anyways, you'll agree with me that one has to be almost a retard, today, not to see and acknowledge how diversified people's sexuality is, and how multiple the behaviors are. It has become almost impossible to define "what" exactly some of them are. lol! You hear some new terms coming out every now and then to define this or that, the latest being "pansexual"! At such a point, it seems to me we should just stop trying before redering ridiculousness lethal...
I also agree that sometimes we need to name things (call a cat a cat). But outside purely practical reasons, I prefer to forget about it and not put a target on people anymore as to how they should be attacked (whether, btw, it's straight or gay or whatever). I think that these labels have done much more harm than they've done good.

So should I suspect that you're rather with the Irish, Bluesoul, or that you drink Bourbon, or Tenesse Mash, as an all American soul? Or maybe it's rye that your heart has elected?
Par ailleurs il n'y a pas de quoi, mon ami. L'offre était sincère! :)

[danthepoetman]

Anyone wants to put a label on ne, BTW, I am a confirmed arse-bandit. It just has to be attached to a girl...
I take good note of your once again eloquent post, Mac. But tell me, did you mean "attached" to a girl or "plugged" into her? :)

[MacShreach]

I take good note of your once again eloquent post, Mac. But tell me, did you mean "attached" to a girl or "plugged" into her? :)
Ideally, she's permanently attached to it while I'm plugged into it only in a transitory sense...

[Nivek]

Nope, men don't do it for me. I like my Ladies feminine.

[amberskyi]

i don't see the reluctance of having a tag on yourself. the transgender community is already tagged under the umbrella of LGBT. this is done for a number of reasons.

what possible reason could you have for not associating with a similar tag?

I know many transwoman who don't wasn't to be apart of the lgbt community at least not on the bases of their gender.
I personally am very gay friendly but i identify as a straight woman so i don't truly believe i belong in the lgbt community by default.
I think ts woman need to come together and form our own community because often times our needs are neglected by the lgbt community because they are so different and varied.

[robertlouis]

I know many transwoman who don't wasn't to be apart of the lgbt community at least not on the bases of their gender.
I personally am very gay friendly but i identify as a straight woman so i don't truly believe i belong in the lgbt community by default.
I think ts woman need to come together and form our own community because often times our needs are neglected by the lgbt community because they are so different and varied.

That's sadly true in too many cases, Amber. The L and the G in LGBT seem to take political precedence almost all the time. You hear about militant lesbians and militant gays, but I've never heard of a militant transsexual, although there are excellent champions, media savvy and articulate, like Janet Mock in the US and Paris Lees here in the UK.

In terms of your own self-identification, would that change if and when you have SRS, if you don't mind me asking?

[bluesoul]

I know many transwoman who don't wasn't to be apart of the lgbt community at least not on the bases of their gender.
I personally am very gay friendly but i identify as a straight woman so i don't truly believe i belong in the lgbt community by default.
I think ts woman need to come together and form our own community because often times our needs are neglected by the lgbt community because they are so different and varied.

i'm just curious but did you read this (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1286146&postcount=84)?

i know some gay people that don't like the gay movement- LGBT etc. does that now mean they're not gay or does it mean they're gay people that don't like that particular social movement?

and instead of thinking ts women need to form their own community, why not think of ending violence around the world so there is no need for such communities in the first place?

[amberskyi]

That's sadly true in too many cases, Amber. The L and the G in LGBT seem to take political precedence almost all the time. You hear about militant lesbians and militant gays, but I've never heard of a militant transsexual, although there are excellent champions, media savvy and articulate, like Janet Mock in the US and Paris Lees here in the UK.

In terms of your own self-identification, would that change if and when you have SRS, if you don't mind me asking?

why would my self identification change upon receiving srs? if anything it would reinforce it even more wouldnt you think lol

[bluesoul]

Anyways, you'll agree with me that one has to be almost a retard, today, not to see and acknowledge how diversified people's sexuality is, and how multiple the behaviors are. It has become almost impossible to define "what" exactly some of them are. lol! You hear some new terms coming out every now and then to define this or that, the latest being "pansexual"! At such a point, it seems to me we should just stop trying before redering ridiculousness lethal...

So should I suspect that you're rather with the Irish, Bluesoul, or that you drink Bourbon, or Tenesse Mash, as an all American soul? Or maybe it's rye that your heart has elected?
Par ailleurs il n'y a pas de quoi, mon ami. L'offre était sincère! :)

i can't speak on the pansexual term because i personally don't see a difference between pansexual and bisexual- but i will say that if you drink either johnny walker black label or jack daniel's (neat) then we're of the same kidney

[amberskyi]

i'm just curious but did you read this (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1286146&postcount=84)?

i know some gay people that don't like the gay movement- LGBT etc. does that now mean they're not gay or does it mean they're gay people that don't like that particular social movement?

and instead of thinking ts women need to form their own community, why not think of ending violence around the world so there is no need for such communities in the first place?

"The people that don't like to assoiciate it are people that aren't PROUD of who they are and not comfortable with there sexuality or are clueless about the gay community. "

i think this says it all right here.being a transsexual/has nothing to do with sexuality its an issue of gender.if i was attracted to woman than i would consider myself apart of the "lbg" community.
i personally have no problem with the gay movement.like i said, i love and support gay people.i can sympathize with a movement but that doesnt mean i belong.im not gay so..yeaa... lol
while communities do offer protection thats not their only function.so even if violence/discrimination ended against ts woman i still think there will be a need for a community to offer comfort, information, etc.

[craigybicurios]

Yes and female male the lot

[craigybicurios]

Twitterme @mystrapon

[MacShreach]

i'm just curious but did you read this (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1286146&postcount=84)?

i know some gay people that don't like the gay movement- LGBT etc. does that now mean they're not gay or does it mean they're gay people that don't like that particular social movement?

and instead of thinking ts women need to form their own community, why not think of ending violence around the world so there is no need for such communities in the first place?

I think I see where you're coming from but there are specific issues that affect the trans community. One, as Amber alluded, is that many transsex women see their sexual orinetation as gender normative, and therefore find being lumped into groups set up by and for those whose orientation is not gender normative, uncomfortable. (I agree with them.)

This sense of unease is more than reciprocated. In the US and Europe, but led by the US, since WW2, gay men have been encouraged to drop their feminine behaviour and appearance and to be macho--something which many gay men themselves find a poor fit. (I personally have no doubt that a significant number of gay men were persuaded to retain a male gender by peer, religious or social pressure, not to mention the activities of quacks like Ken Zucker.) However, since these men are always attracted to straight, masculine men, they see transwomen as competition. Part of this, of course is a refusal to recognise that transwomen are women, but this problem is hardly restricted to gay men.

Many gay men simply do not understand men who like transwomen but who refuse to have sex with gay men, more or less for the same reasons. Unfortunately the consequence of a culture which sees both the penetrated and penetrator as gay, in a relationship between two males, is, inevitably, hostility towards men who will have sex with transwomen (whom many gay men do not really see as women) yet refuse to consider themselves gay. Transwomen themselves, and the men who like them, are therefore seen as undermining the whole structure of the 'egalitarian' macho gay male subculture.


Finally, cause this is getting too late, who asked the transwomen (and men) if they ever wanted to be included in the LGBT quartet? I would really like to know, because it looks very much to me as if they were just lumped in there. Some transpeople are gay lesbian or bisexual but it's hardly the norm.So why, in the end, should they feel it necessary to adhere to an LGB movement?

(None of which is to say that LGBT organisations cannot or will not help transpeople, as your reference showed.)Anyway, signing off now.

[bluesoul]

Finally, cause this is getting too late, who asked the transwomen (and men) if they ever wanted to be included in the LGBT quartet? I would really like to know, because it looks very much to me as if they were just lumped in there. Some transpeople are gay lesbian or bisexual but it's hardly the norm.So why, in the end, should they feel it necessary to adhere to an LGB movement?


i was with you until this last part. nobody is forcing anyone to be part of the LGBT community. it's strictly about who someone is. it's like if i suddenly said i no longer wanted to be considered white because i just cannot identify with white people anymore and that i wanna have my own race called "pinkish-almost-light-and-paleish-red" because i just hate being lumped into quartets that were created by other people before me who never asked me whether i was cool with that.

[bluesoul]

"The people that don't like to assoiciate it are people that aren't PROUD of who they are and not comfortable with there sexuality or are clueless about the gay community. "

i think this says it all right here.being a transsexual/has nothing to do with sexuality its an issue of gender.if i was attracted to woman than i would consider myself apart of the "lbg" community.
i personally have no problem with the gay movement.like i said, i love and support gay people.i can sympathize with a movement but that doesnt mean i belong.im not gay so..yeaa... lol
while communities do offer protection thats not their only function.so even if violence/discrimination ended against ts woman i still think there will be a need for a community to offer comfort, information, etc.

i thought you consider yourself a straight woman

[robertlouis]

why would my self identification change upon receiving srs? if anything it would reinforce it even more wouldnt you think lol

Doh. My bad. What I meant was that post-SRS would you consider yourself removed from the LGBT community? I wouldn't presume to question your self-identity as a woman!

[maddygirl]

I don't think the "T" belongs in "LGBT" at all. Just "LGB." Sure, there are gay and lesbian transsexuals but what does transsexual itself have to do with homosexuality? Nothing. So why include it. In my opinion, this just leads people to believe we're somehow "gay men who took it too far" or that this condition is related to homosexuality, which I find offensive, since obviously, i'm not a dude. Anywho, yeah, I don't think it belongs.

[bluesoul]

i'm not a dude.

nobody said you were. you know women are part of that group too right?

"the term LGBT is intended to emphasize a diversity of sexuality and gender identity-based cultures and is sometimes used to refer to anyone who is non-heterosexual or non-cisgender instead of exclusively to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender"

basically, if you're not currently identifying as the gender you were born with

[maddygirl]

nobody said you were. you know women are part of that group too right?

"the term LGBT is intended to emphasize a diversity of sexuality and gender identity-based cultures and is sometimes used to refer to anyone who is non-heterosexual or non-cisgender instead of exclusively to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender"

basically, if you're not currently identifying as the gender you were born with
Lesbian, gay, and bisexual all have to do with sexual orientation. It's the GAY community. I'm not gay, so why would I want to be grouped in that category. I wouldn't. It just serves to confuse already ignorant people and have them think we're somehow gay men.

[eagleman12]

No i do not watch gay porn because that is so Gay! :)

[David J.]

Transsexual porn or Gay porn...Not the same for me. I've seen gay porn but never been aroused by it; its the feminine form that is attractive.

[bluesoul]

Lesbian, gay, and bisexual all have to do with sexual orientation. It's the GAY community. I'm not gay, so why would I want to be grouped in that category. I wouldn't. It just serves to confuse already ignorant people and have them think we're somehow gay men.

LGBT also serves women. and i don't think it's about sexual orientation as it is about serving those particular groups.

btw: why does everyone keep telling me transgendered people don't belong in LGBT as though i'm the one that put them there? if you think there is an error, shouldn't you be complaining to one of their centers (http://www.lgbtcenters.org/Centers/find-a-center.aspx) or whoever is in charge of such things?

[danthepoetman]

LGBT also serves women. and i don't think it's about sexual orientation as it is about serving those particular groups.

btw: why does everyone keep telling me transgendered people don't belong in LGBT as though i'm the one that put them there? if you think there is an error, shouldn't you be complaining to one of their centers (http://www.lgbtcenters.org/Centers/find-a-center.aspx) or whoever is in charge of such things?
Of course it's not you, Bluesoul! :)
But I agree with Maddy. Transsexual women of course feel like women, and quite often (but not always, of course) are hetero. It's a fight to see a particular sexual orientation recognized. With trassexuals, it's different. They want to see a recognition that there is a condition such as transsexuality, that a woman can indeed be born in the wrong genotype, with the wrong body. It doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation! In fact, I don't think I'm wrong in saying that many, many transsexual women start their transition thinking they are hetero, thinking they like women! and gradually, many of them, through the effect of hormones, start feeling sensible to men's compliments, etc. It's a whole different fight! And as a matter of fact, the fight radical feminists lead, is to negate the difference between men and women! which is totally at the opposite of transsexual's fight, which is of course to have their sex recognized as that of women, with the same rights and the same privileges.
I understand the concept of gender is being invoked often, but in my opinion, it has nothing to do with the transsexual condition, which is so obviously, today, according to neurology and biology, biological! You might use the concept of gender to fight, but t-women are women in their very biological identity, and that is totally different.
So Bluesoul, my friend, once again we differ. I'm not writing this to bugg you up, as I realized that in the end, you're a nice, fun guy with whom one can have a lot of fun. But I agree with Maddy on this: Lesbian, Gays and Bisexuals? What does it have to do with transitioning? What does it have to do with Transsexuals? Nothing. In fact, to put transsexuals with LBG is somewhat insulting to these girls, because it implies that they are not girls, but in fact, gay men in drags...

[Ben]

Cock is a cock right?

on a tgirl or guy, come to think of it most tgirls I think where
guys once!

Correct me if I'm wrong on that one:)

I admit I look at guys sometimes too I feel no shame:wiggle:

So if you like tgirls you most look at guys too sometimes perhaps?

tell the truth now! :hide-1:

Define gay -- :)
Yes! I've watched and looked at gay porn. But that doesn't make me gay -- ;)
Well, here's a few -- :)
It's Keine Sorgen. Formerly Jamie Markham....
Jamie/Keine inadvertently, I guess, pointed out the ambiguousness between TG and gay porn.

[bluesoul]

So Bluesoul, my friend, once again we differ. I'm not writing this to bugg you up, as I realized that in the end, you're a nice, fun guy with whom one can have a lot of fun. But I agree with Maddy on this: Lesbian, Gays and Bisexuals? What does it have to do with transitioning? What does it have to do with Transsexuals? Nothing. In fact, to put transsexuals with LBG is somewhat insulting to these girls, because it implies that they are not girls, but in fact, gay men in drags...

thanks. next time we have a conversation like this (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1286162&postcount=90), please be sure to reply that it's insulting for transsexuals to get help from the LGBT community, because they shouldn't be a part of it. after all, why should they help people that aren't part of their community right?

[danthepoetman]

thanks. next time we have a conversation like this (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1286162&postcount=90), please be sure to reply that it's insulting for transsexuals to get help from the LGBT community, because they shouldn't be a part of it. after all, why should they help people that aren't part of their community right?
Bluesoul, what the fuck does that have anything to do with what we're talking about, buddy? I mean, am I to understand that you quote yourself on another thread as an argument for what you're saying here, which is anyways irrelevant?
Jeeeesus Christ, it shouldn't be too difficult to understand: t-girls are about having their sex recognized, and Lesbians, Gays and Bisexuals are about sexual orientation. There's no dilemma there, no big question.

[feedmecream]

no i only like tstv porn.
most porn has cock in it, some people thinks regular porn (hetero ) is gay because they see the guys dick so they watch lesbian porn which is actually gay.
moral of the story is that there is enough porn out there for everyone to find some goodness.
i never watch male on male, i just dont like it. i watch all sorts of ts top on male because it allows me to imagine, and i love tstv on girl because i love both parts of that equation

[sambiggz]

Cock is a cock right?

on a tgirl or guy, come to think of it most tgirls I think where
guys once!

Correct me if I'm wrong on that one:)

I admit I look at guys sometimes too I feel no shame:wiggle:

So if you like tgirls you most look at guys too sometimes perhaps?

tell the truth now! :hide-1:
Personally I don't like gay porn at all it's a straight up boner killer because I have never, ever and will never be attracted to men, you have to understand that i'm not technically interested with the cock but the TS. She has to be passible in public and if i have to think about it then i wouldn't go for her. I started with girls with strapons and still am but there is really nothing like a passible beautiful ts with something extra.

[sambiggz]

Most TS admirer/chasers will suck cock of a guy if you put a wig on him from my experience
Those guys are probably in denial that they are gay for me that is a COMPLETE NO! i'm NOT attracted to the cock but the female body with tits! they are important. If i have to think about it i wouldn't go there because i'm still attracted to women
For me you have to be passable 1st and that's critical for me.

[sambiggz]

NO! AND NEVER WILL! For me you have to be passable as a female 1st before anything starts In fact I love straight porn but hate it when there is two or more guys
Any thing relatively close to male on male disgusts me
For me its about a passable beautiful Ts women with nice tits and if she has a cock well its icing on the cake but 1st the cake has to be right.

[tommy001]

Seems different when i look at guys and ts girls. Totally different between the two! To me a girl with her cock is still a girl to me.

[callahac]

Yes I do- I love both!

[Toadily]

No i do not watch gay porn because that is so Gay! :)

Too funny

[LongTom101]

Absolutely not

Hetero and TS porn only

[Greco11]

not at all, love everything about trans-women but am not the least bit attracted to guys...

[Rivz]

I don't like gay porn...I'm not gay....


My boyfriend is.

[gregorysgirl]

Gay porn does nothing for me either, though seen a few hot scenes with single tranny & two guys.....

[Romanbody]

Nope, guys don't do it for me. Girls get my attention and trannies get my dick hard lol

[smoothboi]

I watch a lot of the gay cams on cam4.com, ts porn/cams otherwise.

[jamesedwards]

No a cock isn't a cock on the right person! I don't look at gay porn. I love Lady girls with dicks and tits total difference, if you can't tell that from a guy with a beard fucking another guy verses a Tgirl then you need help. Gay porn is not a turn on. yet a lot of women love gay porn, straight women at that. they like to see two men fucking. :pumped:



Cock is a cock right?

on a tgirl or guy, come to think of it most tgirls I think where
guys once!

Correct me if I'm wrong on that one:)

I admit I look at guys sometimes too I feel no shame:wiggle:

So if you like tgirls you most look at guys too sometimes perhaps?

tell the truth now! :hide-1:

[Http]

Sometimes I like to see femboys/twinks getting destroyed. :)

[BarbieWoodsFan]

I like looking at sexy femboys.

[tyrellg]

Nope not at all attracted to gay porn, just chicks with dicks.

[Jimmy W]

Nope

[Ben]

I've looked at Lexx Parker vids... who is also trans star Kayla....

[tskisser]

Maybe you're talking about the way they have the DVDs sorted out in your local xxx store in Eugene. But most gay guys don't like tranny porn. And most guys into trannys don't like gay porn.

But are you one of those super-rare gay men who likes TS porn? I think there's like 3 of you, total. lol
Make that 4.... counting me!!

[a994]

No gay porn for me. I'm not attracted to men; only to women (whatever genitalia they happen to have).

[TGL]

I read an interesting article a while back (can't find the link any more) about how popular transsexual porn is becoming and how it's almost exclusively heterosexual males who watch it. The article was written objectively and not by someone in the business and seemed to have it's arguments backed up.

As I see it, transsexuals are in many ways seen just as girls, which is the way it should be and how tgirls want to be seen, I assume? Some men like girls with large breasts, some men like girls with large butts and some men like girls with large cocks. Or just girls with cocks in general.

I can understand why the girls themselves would want to get SRS eventually, because they see themselves as being women and feel that their cock doesn't fit with their own image of themselves. However, I don't think that the 'chasers', as they have been named, should be seen as guys who are 'just in it for the cock'. A lot of these men would not want sex with a guy and is not turned on by guys, but they like women who has one.
Of course, this is just my point of view and I have no scientific proof to back me up, but I think that there's a lot of guys, myself included, who just likes to see a girl with a cock. We don't think these girls are any less female than genetic girls and we wouldn't want to get into a relationship with a girl just because of her cock, just like boob lovers wouldn't get into a relationship with a girl just because of her boobs. So all those guys who 'whines' about girls getting SRS, probably mostly or only do it because they think the girl would be prettier with her cock, just as some other man would think a girl would be prettier if the girl had larger breasts or something.

This might sound really shallow, but I guess that's the nature of porn and human sexuality. All I wanted to say with this was, that I don't think lovers of transsexual porn necessarily likes gay porn. They are heterosexual men who are into girls! They just happen to like girls with cocks, which hasn't been as popular as other female attributes yet.

So girls, next time a guy compliments you for having a nice cock, it (probably) isn't because he's gay, but just because he wants to give you a compliment, like saying "nice ass" or "nice boobs". So consider yourself flattered! ;)

[MacShreach]

I read an interesting article a while back (can't find the link any more) about how popular transsexual porn is becoming and how it's almost exclusively heterosexual males who watch it. The article was written objectively and not by someone in the business and seemed to have it's arguments backed up.

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I think anyone who has seriously researched this would agree that the vast majority of men who like transsexual porn self-identify as hetero. Whether they qctually are or not is regularly debated here: And my God I hate azerty keyboards.

[romanian]

I do watch some gay porn, but not with feminine gays. I mean, when I watch tow guys fucking, I like to see tough men, bearded hairy men.
I am bisex, so I am attracted by both genders. But if it comes to choose between a gay man and a TS, I'd always go for the TS.

[metrosexx]

No, that would be gay. I'm attracted to TG's for their feminine physique and demeanor. Those are the things that men don't have so I'm not attracted to them.

:iagree:

[NatIce]

I still like twink porn. Discovered TS porn around the same time I was watching a lot of young, smooth/hairless gay porn. The TS interest stuck, the twink porn didn't, although I still enjoy seeing a couple young guys together every year or two (reminds of my own adolescent sexual experimentation).

[Barno]

Once in a while it will turn me on especially if there are feminine twinks performing or if there is a black man topping a feminine white boi.

[Kioji]

Honestly not at all not even into lesbain porn unless the chick's are actually lesbians or it's cisXtrans girls. Also recently got into muscular chick's who wrestle and such.
A penis by it's lonesome similarly to a lone vagina is not interesting or attractive to me generally indifferent to genitals unless they are attached to an attractive lady.
I have and do like women with slight masculine or "square" features that a lot of german women have. I love tall women and occasional(and I mean occasional like maybe once a month) femdom so naturally I love transwomen but also when I was developing sexually at the influential age of 13 my interest in tgirls arose so it's pretty normal, pretty far removed from fetish stuff for the most part just part of my ordinary likes/etc. So no no guy on guy for me.

[blackchubby38]

I occasionally watch twink porn (Roxy Red anyone?) and femdom clips featuring forced-bi scenarios.

[jami3ferrari]

Tranny Porn , gay porn if there not all hairy , bare back is kool so are cum shots lol

[Nortibottom]

Love lesbian porn and hetro porn and love shemale porn and yes i do like them for there hard cocks fucking me and tasty load as well, but they need to be very feminine i dont kid myself and know I'm bisexual but im just not attracted to 2 guys fucking so no to gay porn

[Rude dog]

Nah not for me, I love the femininity of transsexuals. I much prefer the guy being the bottom though! Also prefer it ts/m (or ts/ts/ts/ts/ts/m!) rather than ts/ts or ts/f porn...

Hardly watch any hetero porn now unless the girls are super sexy/dirty.

[CaptainPlanet]

Didn't expect to see so many Yes's on the matter, just proves you can't Group the men that like TS. We all have our preferences.

[Kioji]

Didn't expect to see so many Yes's on the matter, just proves you can't Group the men that like TS. We all have our preferences.

I'm not too surprised always figured my tastes were mine, as in they are relatively unique even among those who like similar things/attributes.

[jamesedwards]

Nope don't look at gay porn, the two are different and people fantasies about both run different.

[AdaBlackXXX]

I would fuck the shit out of Rocco Steele.

[danoblue]

Tranny Porn , gay porn if there not all hairy , bare back is kool so are cum shots lol

agreed. I like all kinds of porn including some of the weird stuff. I generally prefer girls and tgirls. When it comes to gay porn I also not into hair. Femboys and twinks. Especially group scenes.

By the way you are gorgeous Jami and I love your tattoos. Beautiful. Just looked through your photos and love them.

[spidernose]

I don't no.

[DAWA]

I do not see gay porn, I do not see tranny porn if the girl looks masculine

[smoothboi]

My tumblr is gay male porn, and I come here for tgs because I like that the girls post too. So, it's 50/50. I like fit, smooth men (like me), and slender, smooth tgs. Some fembois do it for me.

[ew86riv]

i do watch gay porn, but it wasn't ts porn that got me into watching it. i watched girl on girl porn, and said if i can watch that why not guy on guy porn. i see dudes naked all the time when fucking women in porn anyway. i guess it was a natural progression for me.

[handsumjack]

Yes I love to see Twinks fucking and sucking.

[holzz]

no, i'm not gay.

i like femininity AND a cock. if i wish to see a man's cock, i have my own. that's it.

[smalltownguy]

no, i'm not gay.

i like femininity AND a cock. if i wish to see a man's cock, i have my own. that's it.

I guess when it comes to tranny a man has to deal with both penis&boobs .
So in other way man becomes gay by default if he is into tranny

[holzz]

I guess when it comes to tranny a man has to deal with both penis&boobs .
So in other way man becomes gay by default if he is into tranny

i don't agree. it's pretty much the feminine look that is it. and feminine mannerisms. i don't like men at all, and if i wanted cock, i'll see men too.

[Torris]

A condition of porn drift. Vaginal porn is boring. Anal or nothing. Ergo, I like a girl with a cock, not interested in a guy fucking another guy

Per Seinfeld, not that there’s anything wrong with that. It just doesn’t sexually interest me watching two dudes go at it

[smoothboi]

Yes. gay male bdsm for sure. Wish there were more here into it.

[smalltownguy]

i don't agree. it's pretty much the feminine look that is it. and feminine mannerisms. i don't like men at all, and if i wanted cock, i'll see men too.

:iagree:

[smalltownguy]

What if when you are sucking cock of shemale. Does that not make u gay

[smalltownguy]

A condition of porn drift. Vaginal porn is boring. Anal or nothing. Ergo, I like a girl with a cock, not interested in a guy fucking another guy

Per Seinfeld, not that there’s anything wrong with that. It just doesn’t sexually interest me watching two dudes go at it

It's all about sexual eros

[KelliBlueEyes]

What if when you are sucking cock of shemale. Does that not make u gay

No, trans women are women. “Shemale” is a porn construct. Most trans women find the term offensive

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

not interested in gay porn whatsoever