Have CL Hook-Ups Hurt TS Escort Business?

[Shining Star]

Oh, here is me trying to get a little holiday shopping done down by Union Square, when I ran into a trannie I knew, so said "hi" and we shot the breeze for a bit (while looking at shoes at DSW).

All one heard was how "bad" the hoe business was, and that her earnings were down. I replied that the economy was bad everywhere, but Wall Street was picking up and therefore so should her business. Then she came out with it; apparently this girl blames her woes on guys doing CL hook-ups for trannie sex, rather than paying.

Have heard this before, but according to what one has read here most of the non-escort TS ads were from, well to put it mildly "men in dresses", and that no "hot" trans were giving it away on CL.

A quick look on CL/NYC spotted a decent selection of hot/goodlooking guys, but quite honestly none of the girls remotely could fit that term, so what gives?

SS

[raybbaby]

In a word, no.

[Nicole Dupre]

Then guys must be stooping pretty low because, personally, I've never seen any attractive trannys in the hookup sections of CL, ever.

But I do think that genuinely attractive escorts are a luxury and not a necessity, so the economy does take it's toll. I'm doing wonderfully in NYC because I'm a newer face, right now. But girls I know who've been here a while are bitching they're getting only one call a day. After Feb, I plan on traveling anyway. That's usually a decent way to get a jump on the bottom falling out. But keep in mind too that the holidays shift people's priorities. Most people are splurging on their families and friends at the moment, not their sex lives.

[Mr Dazzle]

thats too funny. Sad if true.

[slinky]

It's always easier to blame something else than poor customer service for your own lack of repeat business.

And from what I'm seeing, an ever expanding percentage of the ads in the Casual Encounters section are not for anything free.

[flabbybody]

if I see someone decent looking in the cas encounter section I know its a fake pic

[BellaBellucci]

Then guys must be stooping pretty low because, personally, I've never seen any attractive trannys in the hookup sections of CL, ever.

But I do think that genuinely attractive escorts are a luxury and not a necessity, so the economy does take it's toll. I'm doing wonderfully in NYC because I'm a newer face, right now. But girls I know who've been here a while are bitching they're getting only one call a day. After Feb, I plan on traveling anyway. That's usually a decent way to get a jump on the bottom falling out. But keep in mind too that the holidays shift people's priorities. Most people are splurging on their families and friends at the moment, not their sex lives.

Girls are complaining about one call a day? $200/call times 365 days per year = $73k per year tax free. As an escort agency owner I made $60-65k per year and had to pay taxes on it. I'd say the worst case scenario for the escort biz is a pretty decent haul. I know every girl doesn't work everyday, but still, I'm sure they make a pretty good chuck of change.

And no, I don't think CL hurts business. If anything the drama surrounding the CL Killer and the removal of the erotic services section plus the state of the economy all have a much greater impact than the casual encounters section.

~BB~

[Shining Star]

Well first words out my mouth in response to the statement was "that is because you are an ole hoe, and need to give it up" (said as a joke), which nearly earned me a knock upside the head with a knock-off Ugg clog! *LOL*

This chick is always crying feast or famine every time one runs into her, which thankfully isn't often.

Miss. Dupree has the right idea, that is to keep moving and therefore stay fresh in a particular market.

Again, while there does seem to be quite allot of fine guys on CL looking to hook up with a trannie, can't see any of them really going for what is on offer in the "free" section. Then again considering how most of these hounds only want a piece wrapped in lace, don't know how particular they might be.

[Shining Star]

BellaBucci,

One phone call does not always equal one date for most girls. From what one understands it often takes several calls to pan out one date. This if of course if that call is not from a regular client.

Problem for most girls is they cannot control when those actual dates will come in, however they do have bills that must be met on time (rent, gas, electric, adverts, etc...), hence them being nervous when the phone does not ring or not ring often enough

While 73K per year seems like allot of money, that really isn't much in NYC, even if it is tax free. On top of the normal high cost of living here, trannies have all the added expenses of medical care, cosmetic work and cosmetics. To this add any extra costs of "working" such as adverts, outfits and such.

[mbf]

A quick look on CL/NYC spotted a decent selection of hot/goodlooking guys, but quite honestly none of the girls remotely could fit that term, so what gives?

SS

what gives? That CL is unsuitable for hook ups, let alone meeting a tranny for something more serious (that thing which my grandma used to call "long term relationship").

I did an experiment not too long ago. I posted an ad in the NYC CL section casual encounters men for ts. Stating looking for booty call, or maybe more, descibed me accuratly, had a face and body pic and all that jazz (a certain someone would say I am pst my prime, but I consider myself not that bad aged 31 and being quite fit)

I was sneaky though, bc I don't live anywhere near NYC, but I did it all for social science.

I received three answers. One was by a crossdresser (who I have no interest in meeting at all), and the other two ones were scam artists using pre-fabricated replies obviously which should lead some suckers to sign up to a "serious" dating site.

verdict: CL sucks for that kind of game. If a dude has no high standards, he might get some play with CD's though.

[Shining Star]

Know from word of mouth (men who are into trannies one has met in the past such as clubs, bars, etc), CL can be a bit of hit or miss for men seeking trannies, but great for TS women seeking men. This is all in a non-escort situation.

Have often spotted men one remembers from clubs, parties, and so forth posting ads on CL. Am also amazed at how many Black, Latin, Asian and Middle Eastern men post on CL looking for trannies, yet trans girls I know claim they hardly ever see such men at TS parties. Well aside from the Latin themed ones that is. Lots of "down low" action going on.

Don't know what is considered "past prime", but again have seen pic of many, many, many young, muscular, buff, etc... men on CL. Mainly in the NYC/NJ, Miami area, and of course LA area of CL

[mbf]

Don't know what is considered "past prime",

Inside joke :P

[Shining Star]

Do youse mean like dis?

[Shining Star]

Or, dis?

[slinky]

Know from word of mouth (men who are into trannies one has met in the past such as clubs, bars, etc), CL can be a bit of hit or miss for men seeking trannies, but great for TS women seeking men. This is all in a non-escort situation.

Is that really some sort of revelation? It's the same for w4m, mw4m, etc.

[TsVanessa69]

Of course young hot guys are more into ts now more than ever.
And no, they don't go to tranny partys, they deal with us directly.

[Floyd R]

You forgot to mention about the no shows that the girls often complain about.


BellaBucci,

One phone call does not always equal one date for most girls. From what one understands it often takes several calls to pan out one date. This if of course if that call is not from a regular client.

Problem for most girls is they cannot control when those actual dates will come in, however they do have bills that must be met on time (rent, gas, electric, adverts, etc...), hence them being nervous when the phone does not ring or not ring often enough

While 73K per year seems like allot of money, that really isn't much in NYC, even if it is tax free. On top of the normal high cost of living here, trannies have all the added expenses of medical care, cosmetic work and cosmetics. To this add any extra costs of "working" such as adverts, outfits and such.

[Shining Star]

Girl, it is a great time to be a young trannie or even a trannie cougar! *LOL*

Time was the hot guys at a club were usually either quasi gay, or perhaps those gay for pay St8 strippers from NJ or LI that wanted "trade" , but now... Well the photos above speak for themselves.

[tslvrnyc]

God forbid guys do normal no strings attached hookups with girls who have normal jobs and want the same thing. The misogyny on this board is amazing sometimes to be honest.

[cantos03]

$73k per year tax free

I think some sex workers report it as income. Maybe Danielle Foxxx said that you should do it if you ever want to buy a home.

[Nicole Dupre]

BellaBucci,

One phone call does not always equal one date for most girls. From what one understands it often takes several calls to pan out one date. This if of course if that call is not from a regular client.

Problem for most girls is they cannot control when those actual dates will come in, however they do have bills that must be met on time (rent, gas, electric, adverts, etc...), hence them being nervous when the phone does not ring or not ring often enough

While 73K per year seems like allot of money, that really isn't much in NYC, even if it is tax free. On top of the normal high cost of living here, trannies have all the added expenses of medical care, cosmetic work and cosmetics. To this add any extra costs of "working" such as adverts, outfits and such.

A call doesn't mean a thing to me. It's when they're out my door and the donation is still there, that it's a solid reality. Anyone who wants to chat on the phone is wasting their time, because I will inevitably start repeating after one hot minute, "Just call me when you're ready, with 30-40 minutes notice. The pics and info are accurate and current. We'll talk more when you're here", as I move my finger towards hanging up. You want phone sex? CALL phone sex. I don't carefully word my ad to do a refresher course on the phone. Call to make an appointment, and nothing else. If it's not in the ad, it wasn't worth discussing on the phone. The phone is to make an appointment, and nothing more lengthy or complicated. Of course I'm cordial and friendly, but I'm not getting sidetracked as some guy starts jerking off. I don't want to date, don't want to meet your wife, don't want the keys to your house, don't want to discuss the weather, etc. If you called that number, you were looking for private modeling and nothing more.


If you call, don't offend me by asking about half hours, or better rates. My suggested donation is competitive, and what my time is worth. If they don't like it, they can always keep looking.

[BellaBellucci]

$73k per year tax free

I think some sex workers report it as income. Maybe Danielle Foxxx said that you should do it if you ever want to buy a home.

Danielle's a smart cookie. Credit was precisely the reason I reported my business income all that time I owned my agency. Well, that and I was incorporated and a corporation with no income is going to look a little strange to the IRS. :lol:

~BB~

[peggygee]

Have CL Hook-Ups Hurt TS Escort Business?

I'd say it's due to market saturation.

The level of demand in the market place may not have kept pace with
the quantities of professional, semi-pro, and amateur trans escorts.

[dan_drade]

I doubt that the Casual Encounters on CL is hurting the business of good quality TS girls. I used CL a few times several years ago, and the guys... opps I mean girls that I met on CL were hardly what I would consider a TS girl. They really were just men dressed up as girls. Although I was able to nut with a couple of them, one of them was so masculine, I had to say thanks, but no thanks.

If you really want to be with a pretty and feminine girl for just an hour or so, you will have to go to an escort. Lots of guys just aren't making as much as they used to (me included) and it is the holiday season. So most guys are probably spending more time with their families and friends instead of looking for a girl for a quick bang. Let's face it. After all the majority of guys looking for a quickie are married men.

[Nicole Dupre]

Have CL Hook-Ups Hurt TS Escort Business?

I'd say it's due to market saturation.So you think it's true?


The level of demand in the market place may not have kept pace with
the quantities of professional, semi-pro, and amateur trans escorts.
Where did you come up with those three categories? What are they based upon?

Why do you have so much emotion invested in TS escorts, if you obviously aren't one?

[Nicole Dupre]

I doubt that the Casual Encounters on CL is hurting the business of good quality TS girls. I used CL a few times several years ago, and the guys... opps I mean girls that I met on CL were hardly what I would consider a TS girl. They really were just men dressed up as girls. Although I was able to nut with a couple of them, one of them was so masculine, I had to say thanks, but no thanks.

If you really want to be with a pretty and feminine girl for just an hour or so, you will have to go to an escort. Lots of guys just aren't making as much as they used to (me included) and it is the holiday season. So most guys are probably spending more time with their families and friends instead of looking for a girl for a quick bang. Let's face it. After all the majority of guys looking for a quickie are married men.

That's the most realistic and honest answer to the OP yet.

[Bunzee]

[quote=cantos03]Well, that and I was incorporated and a corporation with no income is going to look a little strange to the IRS. :lol:

~BB~

why would that look strange? u can have a corporation or any business not making money ...

[caliuncut]

Id like to chime in here if I may.

I'd like to preface this by stating that yes, most of the casual encounters ads are bogus and a waste of time.

Now, with that said there are hot ts' out there looking for men. The little known fact is you have to ignore the ads with pics...yes, seems counter intuitive...but true.

Case in point, I responded to a no pic ad and got a response and pics from a ts who seemed to good to be true....I almost didnt go see her. When I show up...guess who, well im not gonna say but she is always on LA Eros and is smoking hot. I couldnt believe it, now whenever Im in the mood i shoot her an email and she calls me that night or the next...midnight, private number and voila I'm on my way out the door. This chick charges everyone else at least 2 bills, but still wants action on the side from someone who isnt paying.

Maybe shes just not so jaded to view every man she comes across as an ATM....she may be rare, but she exists.

Also, Ive hooked up two other times from casual encounters with decently hot girls, again from ads with no pics.

I think some of these girls, dont want their face and business out for the world to see...they dont want to be bombarded with a million emails. They throw out the ad...you respond and if they like what they see then your in.

Now take my advice and give it a shot, unless you're in LA then please forget everything Ive written and leave those ladies to ME!!!

Thats my 2 cents

[dan_drade]

Id like to chime in here if I may.

I'd like to preface this by stating that yes, most of the casual encounters ads are bogus and a waste of time.

Now, with that said there are hot ts' out there looking for men. The little known fact is you have to ignore the ads with pics...yes, seems counter intuitive...but true.

Case in point, I responded to a no pic ad and got a response and pics from a ts who seemed to good to be true....I almost didnt go see her. When I show up...guess who, well im not gonna say but she is always on LA Eros and is smoking hot. I couldnt believe it, now whenever Im in the mood i shoot her an email and she calls me that night or the next...midnight, private number and voila I'm on my way out the door. This chick charges everyone else at least 2 bills, but still wants action on the side from someone who isnt paying.

Maybe shes just not so jaded to view every man she comes across as an ATM....she may be rare, but she exists.

Also, Ive hooked up two other times from casual encounters with decently hot girls, again from ads with no pics.

I think some of these girls, dont want their face and business out for the world to see...they dont want to be bombarded with a million emails. They throw out the ad...you respond and if they like what they see then your in.

Now take my advice and give it a shot, unless you're in LA then please forget everything Ive written and leave those ladies to ME!!!

Thats my 2 cents

LOL, maybe you have a point there. I have never replied to an ad that did not have a pic. I only replied to the ones with pics. Most of the pics were faceless, but seemed to have a great body. Now I know why there were no faces LOL. Maybe the picless ones are the ones to reply to.

Oh well, my CL days are over now. But who knows, maybe one day my GF will dump me and I'll be prowling the pages of CL again. :)

[Random532]

In London it's market saturation imo. There were 90 chicks on Eros London maybe 6-9 months ago and now there are 170. Some are duplicates but they always were. There are a lot more TVs and what someone above called semi-pro and amateurs doing this and it's definitely hitting the bottom line for the full-timers. Every single girl that I see regularly, which is a fair few of the best looking girls in London, says it's only their regulars keeping them going.

They also all say they get a LOT more timewasters recently, mostly young guys trying to get a fuck for free or just mess around. The problem is some girls are actually doing it, or doing half hours as cheap as £50, and these are not all bad looking girls. When the supply curve is as saturated as it is and people are prepared to charge that little or even do it for free, it shouldn't be a surprise that it hurts everyone.

Yes, to Nicole - I'm not surprised that you haven't noticed it so much being a fresh face in town - all the regular guys who do this a lot will have taken time to check you out. I'd have done the same. I hope it stays good for you but I'd be interested to hear how things are when you aren't such a new face in town.

[tslvrnyc]

$73k per year tax free

I think some sex workers report it as income. Maybe Danielle Foxxx said that you should do it if you ever want to buy a home.

I always hand a 1099 out to the ho's.

[TsVanessa69]

BellaBucci,

One phone call does not always equal one date for most girls. From what one understands it often takes several calls to pan out one date. This if of course if that call is not from a regular client.

Problem for most girls is they cannot control when those actual dates will come in, however they do have bills that must be met on time (rent, gas, electric, adverts, etc...), hence them being nervous when the phone does not ring or not ring often enough

While 73K per year seems like allot of money, that really isn't much in NYC, even if it is tax free. On top of the normal high cost of living here, trannies have all the added expenses of medical care, cosmetic work and cosmetics. To this add any extra costs of "working" such as adverts, outfits and such.

A call doesn't mean a thing to me. It's when they're out my door and the donation is still there, that it's a solid reality. Anyone who wants to chat on the phone is wasting their time, because I will inevitably start repeating after one hot minute, "Just call me when you're ready, with 30-40 minutes notice. The pics and info are accurate and current. We'll talk more when you're here", as I move my finger towards hanging up. You want phone sex? CALL phone sex. I don't carefully word my ad to do a refresher course on the phone. Call to make an appointment, and nothing else. If it's not in the ad, it wasn't worth discussing on the phone. The phone is to make an appointment, and nothing more lengthy or complicated. Of course I'm cordial and friendly, but I'm not getting sidetracked as some guy starts jerking off. I don't want to date, don't want to meet your wife, don't want the keys to your house, don't want to discuss the weather, etc. If you called that number, you were looking for private modeling and nothing more.


If you call, don't offend me by asking about half hours, or better rates. My suggested donation is competitive, and what my time is worth. If they don't like it, they can always keep looking.
I feel you.
Most guys who carry long convo's on the phone NEVER show.
Guys who are quick and to the point are the ones that actually come.
As many pics as I have on my ads, both Eros and Backpage, guys will ask for more pics, RED FLAG and I hang up immediatly.
And for chit chat, I give them my number on NITEFLIRT!

[TsVanessa69]

I doubt that the Casual Encounters on CL is hurting the business of good quality TS girls. I used CL a few times several years ago, and the guys... opps I mean girls that I met on CL were hardly what I would consider a TS girl. They really were just men dressed up as girls. Although I was able to nut with a couple of them, one of them was so masculine, I had to say thanks, but no thanks.

If you really want to be with a pretty and feminine girl for just an hour or so, you will have to go to an escort. Lots of guys just aren't making as much as they used to (me included) and it is the holiday season. So most guys are probably spending more time with their families and friends instead of looking for a girl for a quick bang. Let's face it. After all the majority of guys looking for a quickie are married men.
Yes I agree, guys looking for a quickie are married, and they should be paying not trying to get a freebie!

[Shining Star]

Anyone selling anything that has a good head for business quickly can tell who is ready to by, versus time wasters. Same goes for a hoe with a good head on her shoulders.

From what one hears, dates that chat allot over the telephone or via email, are either not really serious or the PoPo; either way best to move on! *LOL*

[Shining Star]

If you took out all married men from the "working" marketplace, there would be some starving hoes, as married and or otherwise "committed" men probably make up 75% or more of all clients for prossies, strip bars, porn and the lot.

As for quickies and freebies, think young goodlooking and or muscular guys probably are more likely to try and get something off a hoe for nothing, trading on their looks and such. Was given to understand lots of guys of that type either think they are too goodlooking to ever pay for any sort of sex, and or that because they aren't your average troll from under a bridge date, being with them is such a positive experience a girl should be happy to give her time freely.

Married men OTOH often are on a set time schedule and need to "hit and run" with a sure thing. Nothing says that better than showing up at a girl's doorstep with funds in hand. No haggling, no guesswork, no "will she or won't she....?", and everyone gets' what they need (or want), in the end.

[TsVanessa69]

Anyone selling anything that has a good head for business quickly can tell who is ready to by, versus time wasters. Same goes for a hoe with a good head on her shoulders.

From what one hears, dates that chat allot over the telephone or via email, are either not really serious or the PoPo; either way best to move on! *LOL*
You would be surprised how many of these guys are total time wasters who carry a lie as long as they can, but NEVER make it to the door with the donation.
Thats is why I no longer chit chat for any reason unless they use my pay chat line.
You should be in our shoes and you would see why that statement is not accurate.
Do I need to post convo's as proof?

[TsVanessa69]

If you took out all married men from the "working" marketplace, there would be some starving hoes, as married and or otherwise "committed" men probably make up 75% or more of all clients for prossies, strip bars, porn and the lot.

As for quickies and freebies, think young goodlooking and or muscular guys probably are more likely to try and get something off a hoe for nothing, trading on their looks and such. Was given to understand lots of guys of that type either think they are too goodlooking to ever pay for any sort of sex, and or that because they aren't your average troll from under a bridge date, being with them is such a positive experience a girl should be happy to give her time freely.

Married men OTOH often are on a set time schedule and need to "hit and run" with a sure thing. Nothing says that better than showing up at a girl's doorstep with funds in hand. No haggling, no guesswork, no "will she or won't she....?", and everyone gets' what they need (or want), in the end.
Reality check again!
Some of the most ugly, old men , married or not try and get freebies.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and in our minds we all look good.
Trolls are the worst time wasters, discount hunters and no shows of them all.
In MY case, the above average guys are less hastle, and don't ask for freebies as muc as those who definatly should never pick up a phone or shoot an email to a girl like me unless they had the full fee.

[slinky]

You would be surprised how many of these guys are total time wasters who carry a lie as long as they can, but NEVER make it to the door with the donation.
Thats is why I no longer chit chat for any reason unless they use my pay chat line.
You should be in our shoes and you would see why that statement is not accurate.
Do I need to post convo's as proof?

You also have to realize that this is twice (maybe 5 times) as bad for TS sex workers as GG's.

[Nicole Dupre]

If you took out all married men from the "working" marketplace, there would be some starving hoes, as married and or otherwise "committed" men probably make up 75% or more of all clients for prossies, strip bars, porn and the lot.

As for quickies and freebies, think young goodlooking and or muscular guys probably are more likely to try and get something off a hoe for nothing, trading on their looks and such. Was given to understand lots of guys of that type either think they are too goodlooking to ever pay for any sort of sex, and or that because they aren't your average troll from under a bridge date, being with them is such a positive experience a girl should be happy to give her time freely.

Married men OTOH often are on a set time schedule and need to "hit and run" with a sure thing. Nothing says that better than showing up at a girl's doorstep with funds in hand. No haggling, no guesswork, no "will she or won't she....?", and everyone gets' what they need (or want), in the end.

My life is pretty compartmentalized. Dating and working have almost nothing in common for me, and I'm not a slave to either. That's what the donation is for. It's to bypass traditional first-dating rituals, where all the guy had on his mind was one thing anyway. Especially considering there's usually some elaborate fantasy to go with it which, in a LTR, usually takes longer than an hour to make happen if ever.

You want me in the thigh high boots? I don't usually put them on to watch a movie and make out on the couch. Don't want to hear about my day? You just want my time and attention? No strings attached? Cool. I can make that happen. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

You would be surprised how many of these guys are total time wasters who carry a lie as long as they can, but NEVER make it to the door with the donation.
Thats is why I no longer chit chat for any reason unless they use my pay chat line.
You should be in our shoes and you would see why that statement is not accurate.
Do I need to post convo's as proof?

You also have to realize that this is twice (maybe 5 times) as bad for TS sex workers as GG's.

That's probably why I'm so intolerant of it. Once they know your tea and have a number, many of them think acting like fools is part of the process; like we're on Jerry Springer. lol That's why I end those convos with a quickness. And if I don't, it means I'm fucking with them for shits and giggles. Personally, I think your stat is a little off, but you obviously have watched these calls get taken. It's not always cute. lol

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Vanessa & Nicole, with all due respect you have a few things most trannies do not have: Stability!!!!!! At the end of the day you can both make a decision to go "home" and rest your head in a nice home. Not some basement or 1 bedroom apartment with roaches occasionally letting the tenants know who really owns the place.

Business is never slow, it's just alot of these guys want the new face, and who can blame them? Some of the older married men who hit these parties frequently and have a stable income get shot down like a stray dog on a repeated weekly basis by the so-called hot tranny regulars; so what do alot of them do? They go to places where they'll see a bit more attention and not get treated like shit.

No offense to most of you dames, I mean I know enough of you to know you are really really nice girls but let's be honest, you get some snow up your nose, some weed down your lungs, and some vodka in your belly and a younger, muscular dude walks through the front door of any party and the majority of you eye battle to see who gets to top him that night.

And please, let's not play the role of "oh the muscular dude tops us JW!!!" As Nicole pointed out to me recently the majority of these muscular dudes you fight over want to go home and throw that ass up in the air and have you do what turns your stomach 9 times out of 10, top them..........

$73k without taxes huh.............. seems pretty fuckin good, hell even half that seems pretty fuckin good IMO.

To you guys who post on here and hang out on one of the non-tranny sexworker forums (not mentioning the name ;) ) isn't it funny how you never hear those chicks vent about business being slow??? I guess it pays to be discreet, act like a lady, and not brag like a man to other chicks they "think" are there friends while getting Krazy Glued @ Marco's ;)

[TsVanessa69]

You would be surprised how many of these guys are total time wasters who carry a lie as long as they can, but NEVER make it to the door with the donation.
Thats is why I no longer chit chat for any reason unless they use my pay chat line.
You should be in our shoes and you would see why that statement is not accurate.
Do I need to post convo's as proof?

You also have to realize that this is twice (maybe 5 times) as bad for TS sex workers as GG's.

That's probably why I'm so intolerant of it. Once they know your tea and have a number, many of them think acting like fools is part of the process; like we're on Jerry Springer. lol That's why I end those convos with a quickness. And if I don't, it means I'm fucking with them for shits and giggles. Personally, I think your stat is a little off, but you obviously have watched these calls get taken. It's not always cute. lol
yea thats statistic is clearly wrong.
GG's are main stream, normal every day run of the mill.
Ts are still not even seen as human by many, especially guys who are not in tune with everyday life.
So to them TS are like aliens or something, some guys get off on the fact they spoke to a "real" ts and get off on that.
GG's have it way easier than ts.
I worked for a mixed agency before, I know first hand

[TsVanessa69]

Vanessa & Nicole, with all due respect you have a few things most trannies do not have: Stability!!!!!! At the end of the day you can both make a decision to go "home" and rest your head in a nice home. Not some basement or 1 bedroom apartment with roaches occasionally letting the tenants know who really owns the place.

Business is never slow, it's just alot of these guys want the new face, and who can blame them? Some of the older married men who hit these parties frequently and have a stable income get shot down like a stray dog on a repeated weekly basis by the so-called hot tranny regulars; so what do alot of them do? They go to places where they'll see a bit more attention and not get treated like shit.

No offense to most of you dames, I mean I know enough of you to know you are really really nice girls but let's be honest, you get some snow up your nose, some weed down your lungs, and some vodka in your belly and a younger, muscular dude walks through the front door of any party and the majority of you eye battle to see who gets to top him that night.

And please, let's not play the role of "oh the muscular dude tops us JW!!!" As Nicole pointed out to me recently the majority of these muscular dudes you fight over want to go home and throw that ass up in the air and have you do what turns your stomach 9 times out of 10, top them..........

$73k without taxes huh.............. seems pretty fuckin good, hell even half that seems pretty fuckin good IMO.

To you guys who post on here and hang out on one of the non-tranny sexworker forums (not mentioning the name ;) ) isn't it funny how you never hear those chicks vent about business being slow??? I guess it pays to be discreet, act like a lady, and not brag like a man to other chicks they "think" are there friends while getting Krazy Glued @ Marco's ;)
Yea . But now I'm working on moving my home to where I eally want to be, NYC.
And I see that when I get there, I will kinda be the new girl on the block.
See when I'm focused on business, I don't get sidetracked at all.
Cute guys that I like are stored in my private phone.
Anybody else is seen as a potiental paying client, plain and simple.
So when you call the business line, you get business, thats it.
I don't fuck with you while you are at your job, don't fuck with me while I'm on mine.
Time is money and I don't have time for bitchassness when its time to be paid!!!!!!

[slinky]

uh, oh...........

[Nicole Dupre]

Vanessa & Nicole, with all due respect you have a few things most trannies do not have: Stability!!!!!! At the end of the day you can both make a decision to go "home" and rest your head in a nice home. Not some basement or 1 bedroom apartment with roaches occasionally letting the tenants know who really owns the place.

Business is never slow, it's just alot of these guys want the new face, and who can blame them? Some of the older married men who hit these parties frequently and have a stable income get shot down like a stray dog on a repeated weekly basis by the so-called hot tranny regulars; so what do alot of them do? They go to places where they'll see a bit more attention and not get treated like shit.

No offense to most of you dames, I mean I know enough of you to know you are really really nice girls but let's be honest, you get some snow up your nose, some weed down your lungs, and some vodka in your belly and a younger, muscular dude walks through the front door of any party and the majority of you eye battle to see who gets to top him that night.

And please, let's not play the role of "oh the muscular dude tops us JW!!!" As Nicole pointed out to me recently the majority of these muscular dudes you fight over want to go home and throw that ass up in the air and have you do what turns your stomach 9 times out of 10, top them..........

$73k without taxes huh.............. seems pretty fuckin good, hell even half that seems pretty fuckin good IMO.

To you guys who post on here and hang out on one of the non-tranny sexworker forums (not mentioning the name ;) ) isn't it funny how you never hear those chicks vent about business being slow??? I guess it pays to be discreet, act like a lady, and not brag like a man to other chicks they "think" are there friends while getting Krazy Glued @ Marco's ;)YOU TURNED IT!!! :D It's all in the gluing, daddy. ;)

Well, that's the thing. I do advise other girls to have another way of surviving. I've always done something other than sexwork, although never dropping sexwork, because it sweetens mama's kitty. lol When I first transitioned I worked at fucking Starbucks and then waited on tables, just to have medical benefits. My friends looked me like I was nuts, but it's nice to know that an unforeseen major operation is not going to financially destroy you. And 25 hrs a week of voluntary slave labor made me appreciate 2 Benjamins left on my dresser 4 or 5 times a week. That way, when you do get tired of running to the back for ketchup or explaining how they prepare the dinner special, you know deep down that you can make a lateral move. It keeps you sane, and real. And you always have that "fuck you money" to help you keep your head up high. I would never let being a sexworker become the be-all and end-all of my existence, even though I could.

Right now I also work for a wedding photographer in NJ with a portrait studio as well. And my mom was actually a pro photographer, and still has a small business that I can make a few bucks at by helping her doing BORING clerical work. But that's exactly how I like it; the more options, the merrier imo. Nicole's phone rings steadily enough that even a slow day could never hurt me. It gives me time to do the other things I do, like work my other jobs and work on getting this website launched. And I date, but that's never getting discussed on HA. ;) lol

Anyway, yes. This is a job that has perks and can be fun, but it's still work. Not the kind of work that's overwhelming, but it's work none the less.

[IndyCloset]

Vanessa & Nicole, with all due respect you have a few things most trannies do not have: Stability!!!!!! At the end of the day you can both make a decision to go "home" and rest your head in a nice home. Not some basement or 1 bedroom apartment with roaches occasionally letting the tenants know who really owns the place.

Business is never slow, it's just alot of these guys want the new face, and who can blame them? Some of the older married men who hit these parties frequently and have a stable income get shot down like a stray dog on a repeated weekly basis by the so-called hot tranny regulars; so what do alot of them do? They go to places where they'll see a bit more attention and not get treated like shit.

No offense to most of you dames, I mean I know enough of you to know you are really really nice girls but let's be honest, you get some snow up your nose, some weed down your lungs, and some vodka in your belly and a younger, muscular dude walks through the front door of any party and the majority of you eye battle to see who gets to top him that night.

And please, let's not play the role of "oh the muscular dude tops us JW!!!" As Nicole pointed out to me recently the majority of these muscular dudes you fight over want to go home and throw that ass up in the air and have you do what turns your stomach 9 times out of 10, top them..........

$73k without taxes huh.............. seems pretty fuckin good, hell even half that seems pretty fuckin good IMO.

To you guys who post on here and hang out on one of the non-tranny sexworker forums (not mentioning the name ;) ) isn't it funny how you never hear those chicks vent about business being slow??? I guess it pays to be discreet, act like a lady, and not brag like a man to other chicks they "think" are there friends while getting Krazy Glued @ Marco's ;)
Yea . But now I'm working on moving my home to where I eally want to be, NYC.
And I see that when I get there, I will kinda be the new girl on the block.
See when I'm focused on business, I don't get sidetracked at all.
Cute guys that I like are stored in my private phone.
Anybody else is seen as a potiental paying client, plain and simple.
So when you call the business line, you get business, thats it.
I don't fuck with you while you are at your job, don't fuck with me while I'm on mine.
Time is money and I don't have time for bitchassness when its time to be paid!!!!!!

Thanks for keepin it real us guys need to throw money out the window more often!

[TsVanessa69]

Vanessa & Nicole, with all due respect you have a few things most trannies do not have: Stability!!!!!! At the end of the day you can both make a decision to go "home" and rest your head in a nice home. Not some basement or 1 bedroom apartment with roaches occasionally letting the tenants know who really owns the place.

Business is never slow, it's just alot of these guys want the new face, and who can blame them? Some of the older married men who hit these parties frequently and have a stable income get shot down like a stray dog on a repeated weekly basis by the so-called hot tranny regulars; so what do alot of them do? They go to places where they'll see a bit more attention and not get treated like shit.

No offense to most of you dames, I mean I know enough of you to know you are really really nice girls but let's be honest, you get some snow up your nose, some weed down your lungs, and some vodka in your belly and a younger, muscular dude walks through the front door of any party and the majority of you eye battle to see who gets to top him that night.

And please, let's not play the role of "oh the muscular dude tops us JW!!!" As Nicole pointed out to me recently the majority of these muscular dudes you fight over want to go home and throw that ass up in the air and have you do what turns your stomach 9 times out of 10, top them..........

$73k without taxes huh.............. seems pretty fuckin good, hell even half that seems pretty fuckin good IMO.

To you guys who post on here and hang out on one of the non-tranny sexworker forums (not mentioning the name ;) ) isn't it funny how you never hear those chicks vent about business being slow??? I guess it pays to be discreet, act like a lady, and not brag like a man to other chicks they "think" are there friends while getting Krazy Glued @ Marco's ;)
Yea . But now I'm working on moving my home to where I eally want to be, NYC.
And I see that when I get there, I will kinda be the new girl on the block.
See when I'm focused on business, I don't get sidetracked at all.
Cute guys that I like are stored in my private phone.
Anybody else is seen as a potiental paying client, plain and simple.
So when you call the business line, you get business, thats it.
I don't fuck with you while you are at your job, don't fuck with me while I'm on mine.
Time is money and I don't have time for bitchassness when its time to be paid!!!!!!

Thanks for keepin it real us guys need to throw money out the window more often!
I keep it real cuz the guys who spend money are are legit don't make bitchass comments like the one you just did.
Sorry baby, no time to sugar coat shit! People need to see reality and what we really go thru.
So yes, I am the bitch with the balls to tell it lke it is!
I live it every day , all day!

[flabbybody]

You can't help notice the girls who come to the parties every week with that loud shit "BUY ME A DRINK PAPI" attitude.
big turn off

the quiet girls who wait to be approached always seem to consistently leave with a guy

[AverageJob]

I've never seen any attractive trannys in the hookup sections of CL, ever.

They seem attractive on Backpage

http://dallas.backpage.com/TranssexualEscorts/xxx_ts_pornstar_xxx_morgan_bailey_xxx/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=9017404

[TsVanessa69]

You can't help notice the girls who come to the parties every week with that loud shit "BUY ME A DRINK PAPI" attitude.
big turn off

the quiet girls who wait to be approached always seem to consistently leave with a guy
True.
No body likes beggars.
Being a lady is something some girls forget.
I feel sorry for those girls, always beggin for a drink and hittn that nose candy in the bathroom.
All of us are not like that.
Whenever I go to any club, I ALWAYS buy my own drink first.
And then on the flip side, alot of guys at those partys think buying a girl a drink buys you some ass. But then again the "BUY ME A DRINK PAPI" girls have them accoustomed to that.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

You can't help notice the girls who come to the parties every week with that loud shit "BUY ME A DRINK PAPI" attitude.
big turn off

the quiet girls who wait to be approached always seem to consistently leave with a guy
True.
No body likes beggars.
Being a lady is something some girls forget.
I feel sorry for those girls, always beggin for a drink and hittn that nose candy in the bathroom.
All of us are not like that.
Whenever I go to any club, I ALWAYS buy my own drink first.
And then on the flip side, alot of guys at those partys think buying a girl a drink buys you some ass. But then again the "BUY ME A DRINK PAPI" girls have them accoustomed to that.

"buy me a drink papi!!!!!!!"
"no chu dun wanna buy me a drink?!? ok papi bye bye"
"NOOO chu don't want to buy me a drink fuck you papi"
[mumbled cusswords in another language]
gent approaches another lady
[chick A says something in another language to chick B referring to the dude being cheap]
[chick A walks over to the bouncers]
"that man over there said he would pay for my drink and he didn't pay, kick him out"

*repeat sequence following week*

;)

[TsVanessa69]

You can't help notice the girls who come to the parties every week with that loud shit "BUY ME A DRINK PAPI" attitude.
big turn off

the quiet girls who wait to be approached always seem to consistently leave with a guy
True.
No body likes beggars.
Being a lady is something some girls forget.
I feel sorry for those girls, always beggin for a drink and hittn that nose candy in the bathroom.
All of us are not like that.
Whenever I go to any club, I ALWAYS buy my own drink first.
And then on the flip side, alot of guys at those partys think buying a girl a drink buys you some ass. But then again the "BUY ME A DRINK PAPI" girls have them accoustomed to that.

"buy me a drink papi!!!!!!!"
"no chu dun wanna buy me a drink?!? ok papi bye bye"
"NOOO chu don't want to buy me a drink fuck you papi"
[mumbled cusswords in another language]
gent approaches another lady
[chick A says something in another language to chick B referring to the dude being cheap]
[chick A walks over to the bouncers]
"that man over there said he would pay for my drink and he didn't pay, kick him out"

*repeat sequence following week*

;)
LOL

[BiCuriousGeorge]

I find it amusing that sometimes when someone first walks in the door of a party and hasn't even checked his coat yet a certain few girls make a rush to them with that buy me a drink papi shit. If you say not yet you just got there they either get mad and make an issue out of it or keep haggling you until you do. Some will wait until you walk over to the bar and follow you and ask for a drink and then right away ask you if you want to go somewhere with them and you are only there for 3 minutes! It's not all the girls though, just the same few that are way too aggressive and lose out on any money they might have gotten if they didn't push too hard.

[BiCuriousGeorge]

Unfortunately alot of us guys can't afford to go to parties often or call an ad for some fun. Living in NY is expensive and with the economy the way it is many look to craigslist for a hookup with a much less attractive girl than a hot working girl. I've wanted to see a few girls, including Vanessa, that I haven't gotten the chance to because of financial situations. I will tell you that when the money starts flowing in my pockets again you can bet your ass that I will be making some calls and sharing the wealth with the lovely girls in New York.

[Nicole Dupre]

I've never seen any attractive trannys in the hookup sections of CL, ever.

They seem attractive on Backpage

http://dallas.backpage.com/TranssexualEscorts/xxx_ts_pornstar_xxx_morgan_bailey_xxx/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=9017404But that's an escort ad. Not a hook up ad. BP is a better place to run an ad anyway.

[TsVanessa69]

Unfortunately alot of us guys can't afford to go to parties often or call an ad for some fun. Living in NY is expensive and with the economy the way it is many look to craigslist for a hookup with a much less attractive girl than a hot working girl. I've wanted to see a few girls, including Vanessa, that I haven't gotten the chance to because of financial situations. I will tell you that when the money starts flowing in my pockets again you can bet your ass that I will be making some calls and sharing the wealth with the lovely girls in New York.
By then I will be one of the girls of New York!

[bridgetbbyxo]

ive posted a few times on CL for a cas encounter... and had some fun.. i dont do that pay for play shit.. i just have a normal job and normal life, im as normal as they can be, i just like to have sex with nsa once in a while. The thing i hate about posting there tho is the prostitutes are ALWAYS flagging me, i do honestly have a theory that they see a pretty young ts girl just looking for a hookup they flag me bc they dont want any competion or they want guys to think the only way they can be with a ts is to pay... which kinda pisses me off... my 2 cents

[youshouldtrythislol]

personally, i think paying a girl is the equivelent to saying she is an object. i think it is rude to precieve a girl as an object only used to get you off when you want.

i dont think badly of those that do pay or those that recieve payments, but that is my thoughts on it, and as such, i dont know that i could ever bring myself to pay.

[TsVanessa69]

ive posted a few times on CL for a cas encounter... and had some fun.. i dont do that pay for play shit.. i just have a normal job and normal life, im as normal as they can be, i just like to have sex with nsa once in a while. The thing i hate about posting there tho is the prostitutes are ALWAYS flagging me, i do honestly have a theory that they see a pretty young ts girl just looking for a hookup they flag me bc they dont want any competion or they want guys to think the only way they can be with a ts is to pay... which kinda pisses me off... my 2 cents
Nah its the CD's who want to dominate the CL because they don't live as woman as we do.
And the old trolls.
Sometimes me and my gf put ads up looking for guys to hang with us, put our pics up and the ad gets flagged in 5 minutes!

[TsVanessa69]

personally, i think paying a girl is the equivelent to saying she is an object. i think it is rude to precieve a girl as an object only used to get you off when you want.

i dont think badly of those that do pay or those that recieve payments, but that is my thoughts on it, and as such, i dont know that i could ever bring myself to pay.Married men should pay, guys who fuck and run should pay, guys who treat me like a ts should pay.
There are some things there are no way around.
Like the fuck I wanna hang out with some bitchass married man for free, the mfukkin nerve!

[youshouldtrythislol]

personally, i think paying a girl is the equivelent to saying she is an object. i think it is rude to precieve a girl as an object only used to get you off when you want.

i dont think badly of those that do pay or those that recieve payments, but that is my thoughts on it, and as such, i dont know that i could ever bring myself to pay.Married men should pay, guys who fuck and run should pay, guys who treat me like a ts should pay.
There are some things there are no way around.
Like the fuck I wanna hang out with some bitchass married man for free, the mfukkin nerve!
i guess i hadnt thought about it like that. luckly im not married nor would i treat you any different from anyone else lol. i guess i just think that if a girl has a great personality and looks to match, all the money in the world isnt good enough.

[BiCuriousGeorge]

When are you planning on moving to NY Vanessa? I hope by then things are better for both of us financially. Hopefully that happens sooner then later.

[NYBURBS]

I doubt that CL has much impact on the escort business. As has already been mentioned CL is more or less escorts, psychos, and serial pic collectors.

[slinky]

"buy me a drink papi!!!!!!!"
"no chu dun wanna buy me a drink?!? ok papi bye bye"
"NOOO chu don't want to buy me a drink fuck you papi"
[mumbled cusswords in another language]
gent approaches another lady
[chick A says something in another language to chick B referring to the dude being cheap]
[chick A walks over to the bouncers]
"that man over there said he would pay for my drink and he didn't pay, kick him out"

*repeat sequence following week*

;)

When I first started attending the parties again a few years ago after a fairly long hiatus from this scene, a girl who's been around the block for a while came up to me and basically cursed me out when I told her I didn't want to go to a hotel with her. I really had to bite my lip and not say "XXXXX, I liked you a lot better when you were sucking cock on 14th Street for $20" (which she had done...... about 15 years before that).

[slinky]

Although I did get quizzed pretty heavily the other week by a girl about why the fuck I came to the parties because she knew I wasn't there to pay for the girls, and she also knew I had turned down a lot of girls who had offered it up to me for free. So she was like "so why are you here?". I think she really was just pissed off that she knew she was never going to get a drink, a lapdance or a trick out of me, and she was a bit drunk and probably just taking he lack of earning that night out on me, because in the end she ended up admitting that she respected me because I never took her picture because she doesn't want her pics posted around, and that she knew that I always asked girls first before taking their pics and always respected their wishes. So in the end, I really don't know why she was so hostile to me about WTF I was doing at the parties.

[hwbs]

my fav one was when i was visiting my bartender friend downtown....i am behind this trannie that must of had one too many burritos that night waiting for the bathroom....after i am able to pull myself out of the bathroom she comes over and asks why i never buy her a drink....i was like "oh that was just payback back there " talk about classy :)

[hwbs]

there was...thought i was going to die a slow death in that bathroom...hint she has been a regular dancing @ the parties from almost the very beginning of the Allanah parties :)

[TsVanessa69]

there was...thought i was going to die a slow death in that bathroom...hint she has been a regular dancing @ the parties from almost the very beginning of the Allanah parties :)
Does her name start with a "C"?

[IndyCloset]

Vanessa & Nicole, with all due respect you have a few things most trannies do not have: Stability!!!!!! At the end of the day you can both make a decision to go "home" and rest your head in a nice home. Not some basement or 1 bedroom apartment with roaches occasionally letting the tenants know who really owns the place.

Business is never slow, it's just alot of these guys want the new face, and who can blame them? Some of the older married men who hit these parties frequently and have a stable income get shot down like a stray dog on a repeated weekly basis by the so-called hot tranny regulars; so what do alot of them do? They go to places where they'll see a bit more attention and not get treated like shit.

No offense to most of you dames, I mean I know enough of you to know you are really really nice girls but let's be honest, you get some snow up your nose, some weed down your lungs, and some vodka in your belly and a younger, muscular dude walks through the front door of any party and the majority of you eye battle to see who gets to top him that night.

And please, let's not play the role of "oh the muscular dude tops us JW!!!" As Nicole pointed out to me recently the majority of these muscular dudes you fight over want to go home and throw that ass up in the air and have you do what turns your stomach 9 times out of 10, top them..........

$73k without taxes huh.............. seems pretty fuckin good, hell even half that seems pretty fuckin good IMO.

To you guys who post on here and hang out on one of the non-tranny sexworker forums (not mentioning the name ;) ) isn't it funny how you never hear those chicks vent about business being slow??? I guess it pays to be discreet, act like a lady, and not brag like a man to other chicks they "think" are there friends while getting Krazy Glued @ Marco's ;)
Yea . But now I'm working on moving my home to where I eally want to be, NYC.
And I see that when I get there, I will kinda be the new girl on the block.
See when I'm focused on business, I don't get sidetracked at all.
Cute guys that I like are stored in my private phone.
Anybody else is seen as a potiental paying client, plain and simple.
So when you call the business line, you get business, thats it.
I don't fuck with you while you are at your job, don't fuck with me while I'm on mine.
Time is money and I don't have time for bitchassness when its time to be paid!!!!!!

Thanks for keepin it real us guys need to throw money out the window more often!
I keep it real cuz the guys who spend money are are legit don't make bitchass comments like the one you just did.
Sorry baby, no time to sugar coat shit! People need to see reality and what we really go thru.
So yes, I am the bitch with the balls to tell it lke it is!
I live it every day , all day!

You aint saying shit that's too fly for Superman "baby".

If you've met one tranny wh0re your met them all for the most part. And comment are like complaints, they don't change anything!

So since I was obviously joking in my last post there's shouldn't be anything more "bitchass" then getting offended by it.....LMAO!

[IndyCloset]

personally, i think paying a girl is the equivelent to saying she is an object. i think it is rude to precieve a girl as an object only used to get you off when you want.

i dont think badly of those that do pay or those that recieve payments, but that is my thoughts on it, and as such, i dont know that i could ever bring myself to pay.Married men should pay, guys who fuck and run should pay, guys who treat me like a ts should pay.
There are some things there are no way around.
Like the fuck I wanna hang out with some bitchass married man for free, the mfukkin nerve!

Okay let Indy get this str8...... Here's a profile with a picture of a tgirl with her dick in her hand that holds guys in contempt for viewing her as a potential "good time"....????
And then you hoes wonder why your the ones who aren't married...


The nerve indeed!


Good thing "should" doesn't always equal "would" but have fun with that concept.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I fucking love this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rickyswild]

I have never used cl to much fear with the unknown. I love eros and usually have good luck with it

[Nicole Dupre]

I have never used cl to much fear with the unknown. I love eros and usually have good luck with itI think CL in FL may be a bit atypical. I can tell you that some of the best providers there had used it, and used it often...

... but, then again, both of us moved up here. lol

J/K There are still a few girls there who use it, and do very well with it, and they're as top notch as anyone on Eros.

[hwbs]

there was...thought i was going to die a slow death in that bathroom...hint she has been a regular dancing @ the parties from almost the very beginning of the Allanah parties :)
Does her name start with a "C"?

you got it :wink:

[IndyCloset]

I fucking love this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean honestly....does it take a lot of balls to state the obvious while posting on Tranny Wh0re Central???

[Nicole Dupre]

I fucking love this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean honestly....does it take a lot of balls to state the obvious while posting on Tranny Wh0re Central???"Let Indy get this straight"? Who the fuck are you? Don King? lol

No one here cares about what Indy thinks. Tell Indy we said so. Ok? lol

[IndyCloset]

I fucking love this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean honestly....does it take a lot of balls to state the obvious while posting on Tranny Wh0re Central???"Let Indy get this straight"? Who the fuck are you? Don King? lol

No one here cares about what Indy thinks. Tell Indy we said so. Ok? lol

HMM, I LIKE THE TATTOOS, BUT NEVER THE LESS YOUR STILL NOT INDY'S TYPE...

AND SINCE I VALUE MY OPINION THE SAME AS MY DESIRES I HAVE TO ASK QUESTION WHY IS THIS CHICK EVEN TALKING TO ME....?

[TsVanessa69]

Vanessa & Nicole, with all due respect you have a few things most trannies do not have: Stability!!!!!! At the end of the day you can both make a decision to go "home" and rest your head in a nice home. Not some basement or 1 bedroom apartment with roaches occasionally letting the tenants know who really owns the place.

Business is never slow, it's just alot of these guys want the new face, and who can blame them? Some of the older married men who hit these parties frequently and have a stable income get shot down like a stray dog on a repeated weekly basis by the so-called hot tranny regulars; so what do alot of them do? They go to places where they'll see a bit more attention and not get treated like shit.

No offense to most of you dames, I mean I know enough of you to know you are really really nice girls but let's be honest, you get some snow up your nose, some weed down your lungs, and some vodka in your belly and a younger, muscular dude walks through the front door of any party and the majority of you eye battle to see who gets to top him that night.

And please, let's not play the role of "oh the muscular dude tops us JW!!!" As Nicole pointed out to me recently the majority of these muscular dudes you fight over want to go home and throw that ass up in the air and have you do what turns your stomach 9 times out of 10, top them..........

$73k without taxes huh.............. seems pretty fuckin good, hell even half that seems pretty fuckin good IMO.

To you guys who post on here and hang out on one of the non-tranny sexworker forums (not mentioning the name ;) ) isn't it funny how you never hear those chicks vent about business being slow??? I guess it pays to be discreet, act like a lady, and not brag like a man to other chicks they "think" are there friends while getting Krazy Glued @ Marco's ;)
Yea . But now I'm working on moving my home to where I eally want to be, NYC.
And I see that when I get there, I will kinda be the new girl on the block.
See when I'm focused on business, I don't get sidetracked at all.
Cute guys that I like are stored in my private phone.
Anybody else is seen as a potiental paying client, plain and simple.
So when you call the business line, you get business, thats it.
I don't fuck with you while you are at your job, don't fuck with me while I'm on mine.
Time is money and I don't have time for bitchassness when its time to be paid!!!!!!

Thanks for keepin it real us guys need to throw money out the window more often!
I keep it real cuz the guys who spend money are are legit don't make bitchass comments like the one you just did.
Sorry baby, no time to sugar coat shit! People need to see reality and what we really go thru.
So yes, I am the bitch with the balls to tell it lke it is!
I live it every day , all day!

You aint saying shit that's too fly for Superman "baby".

If you've met one tranny wh0re your met them all for the most part. And comment are like complaints, they don't change anything!

So since I was obviously joking in my last post there's shouldn't be anything more "bitchass" then getting offended by it.....LMAO!
The thing is you never met me.
And if you were Superman, you wouldnt be so bitter cuz you don't have what it takes to be with a ts UNLESS you had the money, plain and simple!
I see idiots like you as a joke.
No matter what you say, I'm a sexy pretty bitch, and I'm always going to get paid.
SOUR GRAPS, but then again what would I expect on HA?

[TsVanessa69]

personally, i think paying a girl is the equivelent to saying she is an object. i think it is rude to precieve a girl as an object only used to get you off when you want.

i dont think badly of those that do pay or those that recieve payments, but that is my thoughts on it, and as such, i dont know that i could ever bring myself to pay.Married men should pay, guys who fuck and run should pay, guys who treat me like a ts should pay.
There are some things there are no way around.
Like the fuck I wanna hang out with some bitchass married man for free, the mfukkin nerve!

Okay let Indy get this str8...... Here's a profile with a picture of a tgirl with her dick in her hand that holds guys in contempt for viewing her as a potential "good time"....????
And then you hoes wonder why your the ones who aren't married...


The nerve indeed!


Good thing "should" doesn't always equal "would" but have fun with that concept.
No i said that married men should not want freebies from ANYBODY, tg or gg.
Yes I am a ts for the money, and I always will be.
I am a woman in my private life, with my sexy young latino and light skinned papi's who wine me, dine me and hold my hand in public.
ANYBODY else, is a trick to me, and if you don't have money for me, I don't have time for them.
I dont give a fuck what anybody sayds about me or a working girl.
TRICKASSES