You have to watch this tranny on the train

[NYTSJulie]

Tranny on the train with mace, this video is lovely, the tranny taught them she wasnt the one lol....must watch http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5942838

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

ROFL :lol:

~Kisses.

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[JerseyMike]

Good stuff, always love it when children get hurt.

[GroobySteven]

Love it.
Especially the fat kid in the disabled seat !?!

[NYTSJulie]

The mother was trash and she and her kids kept fucking with the tranny. The mother taught her kids how to act in public and didnt do a very good job. The kid got what he needed. Mothers need to teach their kids proper respect even if the person looks odd.

[fred41]

Guess they all had their little jokes ..but the TS had the knockout punchline.

[Lucy157]

you cant condone this at all. That TS was way out of line assaulting a child, no matter how rude he or hi mother was. If a straight male had done this we would be calling for him to get ten years in jail.

[NYTSJulie]

you cant condone this at all. That TS was way out of line assaulting a child, no matter how rude he or hi mother was. If a straight male had done this we would be calling for him to get ten years in jail.

Well even though your name is Lucy it’s obvious that you’re not a TS, you’re a straight cross dresser that has the mindset of a male. Any TS would understand how and why this tranny did what she did. All transsexuals have faced some kind of discrimination for being who they are in one form or another. Although I have never been called out like this I have been discriminated in other situations, all transsexuals have. I recently had a situation at the hospital, once I let it be know that I am a transsexual the whole tone changed. Think of a black person in the 40’s then times that by ten, people think we are creatures, things and its. We have no feelings and these people think it’s ok to publicly pick fun at this girl on the train. Thats why we try and pass, to avoid this, but some people cant pass. I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

[GroobySteven]

To be fair, anyone dressed like that tranny was on the train deserved a little stick.

[Distance]

you cant condone this at all. That TS was way out of line assaulting a child, no matter how rude he or hi mother was. If a straight male had done this we would be calling for him to get ten years in jail.

Well even though your name is Lucy it’s obvious that you’re not a TS, you’re a straight cross dresser that has the mindset of a male. Any TS would understand how and why this tranny did what she did. All transsexuals have faced some kind of discrimination for being who they are in one form or another. Although I have never been called out like this I have been discriminated in other situations, all transsexuals have. I recently had a situation at the hospital, once I let it be know that I am a transsexual the whole tone changed. Think of a black person in the 40’s then times that by ten, people think we are creatures, things and its. We have no feelings and these people think it’s ok to publicly pick fun at this girl on the train. Thats why we try and pass, to avoid this, but some people cant pass. I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

You certainly don't look like a thing, an 'it', or a creature at all. It is in human nature (as inhuman it may sound to you) to make fun of people. Let's be honest: dressed as that ts was really calling for it. The whole family was trash, I agree...but spraying gas on impolite kids is out of line.

[2009AD]

I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

You give her two thumbs up for what? Macing an obnoxious kid who posed no physical threat to her?

I watched this video twice before commenting. A few observations:

1- None of us know what transpired before the video started, so we can't say with certainty who started it.

2- For the sake of argument, let's say the kids started it. The kids, especially the skinny one, and the mothers are out of line. The mom should have kept her kids in check. However, we all know that some parents, like their children, do not know how to behave in public.

3- Words are exchanged, we all see that. What I do notice is the trans person is the one who, three times, approaches mother and kids. Not once did the kids or mother approach the t-person. The fat boy, twice got up and walked away from the approaching t-person.

4- I heard no threats from mother or kids toward the t-person.

5- What reason did the t-person have for macing the kid? Imagine if everyone who felt insulted decided to take out mace, or worse, and exact "justice" on the offending party.

6- If the t-person had maced two people standing over her and verbally menacing her, I would say "Good, you were acting in self-defense against a real and potential threat."

7- I noticed the subway car was virtually empty. The t-person could have told mom and kids to fuck off and thenmoved to the other end of the car. The wisest people know when to walk away from a verbal confrontation.

8- The t-person decided to mace the kid just as she was exiting the subway car. To anyone who approves of her action, please tell me how she would explain to a police officer, or a court of law, why she felt she needed to mace a child who posed no threat to her.

9- IMO: Any person (Man, woman, tg) who maces someone, as a result of a verbal insult, should be charged with assault.

[2009AD]

The whole family was trash, I agree...but spraying gas on impolite kids is out of line.

It's not only out of line, it's a crime. But I guess it's funny to some cause "Sista, just be defending hers self. You know what I'm sayin boo?"

[tslvrnyc]

you cant condone this at all. That TS was way out of line assaulting a child, no matter how rude he or hi mother was. If a straight male had done this we would be calling for him to get ten years in jail.

Well even though your name is Lucy it’s obvious that you’re not a TS, you’re a straight cross dresser that has the mindset of a male. Any TS would understand how and why this tranny did what she did. All transsexuals have faced some kind of discrimination for being who they are in one form or another. Although I have never been called out like this I have been discriminated in other situations, all transsexuals have. I recently had a situation at the hospital, once I let it be know that I am a transsexual the whole tone changed. Think of a black person in the 40’s then times that by ten, people think we are creatures, things and its. We have no feelings and these people think it’s ok to publicly pick fun at this girl on the train. Thats why we try and pass, to avoid this, but some people cant pass. I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

There's no way you can possibly condone this behavior. She could have simply walked away, but she chose to maintain the specticle.

I wish the kid's father had been around to punch her in her fat face.

[gotchagood]

LOL!! Respect your elders!!!

[SarahG]

I have to agree with 2009AD. Macing a child for being rude is way over the line- she should do time for that stunt.

Nonlethal weapons frequently become lethal by accident, all it takes is for the target to have a pre-existing health condition (i.e. those taser deaths where the targets had weak hearts etc.). In this case, she's damn lucky that kid wasn't a severe asthmatic or her stunt would have killed the brat.

That she timed the assault for when she was about to get off just shows that she could have simply walked away.

Were the family out of line? Oh hell yea, but that doesn't give a stranger the right to assault someone, let alone a kid.

[dgs925]

I agree with the above comments. They ought to charge her ass with assaulting a minor, all the evidence is right here in the video.

[mistab]

The video shows battery upon a minor which cannot be justified by an exchange of words, however harsh they may have been- especially as the aggressor approached the boy to spray him in the face. That being said, I also wonder what she sprayed him with- I doubt that she sprayed him with mace/oc spray as most of the people in that train car would have been coughing, tearing in such an enclosed space.

[alyssats]

Did the TS girl spray something on the little kid?

[brickcitybrother]

At the beginning I thought the tranny was in the wrong ... then I see the kids taunting her and running towards her and the mother not controlling them and changed my mind. I don't agree with macing the kid ... but then again sometimes you should get what you deserve even if it isn't right.

[SarahG]

At the beginning I thought the tranny was in the wrong ... then I see the kids taunting her and running towards her and the mother not controlling them and changed my mind. I don't agree with macing the kid ... but then again sometimes you should get what you deserve even if it isn't right.

The girl shouldn't have maced him, other than that I agree with you- they were provoking her. They probably just expected her to make a scene, and unsurprisingly she did.

[NYTSJulie]

you cant condone this at all. That TS was way out of line assaulting a child, no matter how rude he or hi mother was. If a straight male had done this we would be calling for him to get ten years in jail.

Well even though your name is Lucy it’s obvious that you’re not a TS, you’re a straight cross dresser that has the mindset of a male. Any TS would understand how and why this tranny did what she did. All transsexuals have faced some kind of discrimination for being who they are in one form or another. Although I have never been called out like this I have been discriminated in other situations, all transsexuals have. I recently had a situation at the hospital, once I let it be know that I am a transsexual the whole tone changed. Think of a black person in the 40’s then times that by ten, people think we are creatures, things and its. We have no feelings and these people think it’s ok to publicly pick fun at this girl on the train. Thats why we try and pass, to avoid this, but some people cant pass. I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

You certainly don't look like a thing, an 'it', or a creature at all. It is in human nature (as inhuman it may sound to you) to make fun of people. Let's be honest: dressed as that ts was really calling for it. The whole family was trash, I agree...but spraying gas on impolite kids is out of line.

I know I dont look like an "it" lol, the point is if people know your transgender then you can be discriminated.

[fred41]

The video shows battery upon a minor which cannot be justified by an exchange of words, however harsh they may have been- especially as the aggressor approached the boy to spray him in the face. That being said, I also wonder what she sprayed him with- I doubt that she sprayed him with mace/oc spray as most of the people in that train car would have been coughing, tearing in such an enclosed space.

For the most part, OC (pepper) spray..unless bought in mist form, doesn't affect anyone other than the person it touches...it is not a gas.


..also, i know i might get shit for this, but...every now and then I just have a need to say (especially on HA threads..where everything becomes a big debate)...Just lighten the fuck up everyone...kids not dead.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

You give her two thumbs up for what? Macing an obnoxious kid who posed no physical threat to her?

I watched this video twice before commenting. A few observations:

1- None of us know what transpired before the video started, so we can't say with certainty who started it.

2- For the sake of argument, let's say the kids started it. The kids, especially the skinny one, and the mothers are out of line. The mom should have kept her kids in check. However, we all know that some parents, like their children, do not know how to behave in public.

3- Words are exchanged, we all see that. What I do notice is the trans person is the one who, three times, approaches mother and kids. Not once did the kids or mother approach the t-person. The fat boy, twice got up and walked away from the approaching t-person.

4- I heard no threats from mother or kids toward the t-person.

5- What reason did the t-person have for macing the kid? Imagine if everyone who felt insulted decided to take out mace, or worse, and exact "justice" on the offending party.

6- If the t-person had maced two people standing over her and verbally menacing her, I would say "Good, you were acting in self-defense against a real and potential threat."

7- I noticed the subway car was virtually empty. The t-person could have told mom and kids to fuck off and thenmoved to the other end of the car. The wisest people know when to walk away from a verbal confrontation.

8- The t-person decided to mace the kid just as she was exiting the subway car. To anyone who approves of her action, please tell me how she would explain to a police officer, or a court of law, why she felt she needed to mace a child who posed no threat to her.

9- IMO: Any person (Man, woman, tg) who maces someone, as a result of a verbal insult, should be charged with assault.

Very good points AD. It was funny watching her curse out the ignorant morons and see her stand up for herself. But her actions (and how she handled the situation) by macing the kid, simply put her as a transgender in a bad light. Someone said something about being dressed appropriately (to blend in as a normal woman..Isn't that what most TS wanted in the first place?)..being dressed like that out in public and taking public transportation is only 'asking' for it (like someone had said). The tranny should have at least cared enough not to cause any 'commotion' inside the train by putting a jacket to cover up a bit or invest in a car IF she hates hearing people whisper or outright make rude comments about her apperance.

Passing aka registering as a woman while out in public makes most transgender girls lives a lil easier. And passing does need a lot of hard work not just throwing around a gold strapless dress, a blonde weave and getting silicone breast. Just my 2 cents.. ;)

~Kisses.

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[Silcc69]

http://img.listal.com/image/497998/180full-jamal-mixon.jpg


lol there were so many stereotypes in that video it's unbelievable.

[fred41]

Yeah..you might be right Hara...but maybe it was late at night and she's dressed like that cause she's a streetwalker (that would explain the OC spray and the revealing outfit)...and maybe cause she doesn't look all that passable she doesn't rake in the big bucks so she can't always afford the cab ride instead of the subway...and maybe while she's streetwalking she puts up with a lot of shit from the asshole kids in cars on their way to the clubs at night...and maybe her feet hurt ..and maybe she just got tired and it all came together and she was going home and what this trashy family said to her (combined with all the smirks and laughter)were just too much on that night..so she acted out..and it might have been wrong ...but she just had enough, so she acted out. No one died. Kid will think twice before opening his stupid-ass mouth next time (because his stupid-ass mother can't be bothered being a real mother because she's just a stupid-ass)...and maybe the lady got herself a small sense of satisfaction after a brutal night of many brutal nights.

..I realize that my story uses a lot of "maybes"..but that's what I like to think went down....so I just chuckled and don't feel bad at all for the family.

[worldbro]

that poor kid is scarred for life, now he will never grow up to jackoff to shemale porn

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Yeah..you might be right Hara...but maybe it was late at night and she's dressed like that cause she's a streetwalker (that would explain the OC spray and the revealing outfit)...and maybe cause she doesn't look all that passable she doesn't rake in the big bucks so she can't always afford the cab ride instead of the subway...and maybe while she's streetwalking she puts up with a lot of shit from the asshole kids in cars on their way to the clubs at night...and maybe her feet hurt ..and maybe she just got tired and it all came together and she was going home and what this trashy family said to her (combined with all the smirks and laughter)were just too much on that night..so she acted out..and it might have been wrong ...but she just had enough, so she acted out. No one died. Kid will think twice before opening his stupid-ass mouth next time (because his stupid-ass mother can't be bothered being a real mother because she's just a stupid-ass)...and maybe the lady got herself a small sense of satisfaction after a brutal night of many brutal nights.

..I realize that my story uses a lot of "maybes"..but that's what I like to think went down....so I just chuckled and don't feel bad at all for the family.

MAYBE you're right! BUT whatever maybe's that might be..a wrong is still a WRONG. Even if someone in her family died (or she had a rough night out on the street), she shouldn't take out her frustrations at ANYONE? ;)

Besides, that kid might turn out to be a transexual killer or hater cos of what she did. Have you ever thought of that?

~Kisses.

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[GroobySteven]

that poor kid is scarred for life, now he will never grow up to jackoff to shemale porn

Or everytime he does he'll start coughing and his eyes watering ...

[Distance]

..I realize that my story uses a lot of "maybes"..but that's what I like to think went down....so I just chuckled and don't feel bad at all for the family.

You know, just because the op is a stunner should not have you try to sugar coat it. Servility does not serve honesty. ;)


If they were your kids, you bet you would feel for the family.
I really don't care if she is male, female, transexual...all I see is she looks like the loch ness monster with a hard nylon wig. Kids always mock adults, this is nothing new, and hasn't anything to do with being discriminated.

[SarahG]

If they were your kids, you bet you would feel for the family.


I would HOPE that if these were the kids of anyone on HA, they'd have been raised to know better for one, and for second- that said parent would have intervened and halted their behavior before it went any further.


Kids always mock adults, this is nothing new, and hasn't anything to do with being discriminated.

True, kids rarely hold back their feelings when they see someone they feel is different.

But allowing kids to do stuff like this, or worse- encouraging it, is what establishes the mindsets that cause discrimination in the first place.

How people reproduce & raise kids is how society is duplicated. If that means encouraging kids to target people who they identify as different or odd, then that is going to have a snowballing effect throughout the rest of society; eventually causing violence, job discrimination, failure to protect the civil liberties of others, etc.

[Distance]

I know I dont look like an "it" lol, the point is if people know your transgender then you can be discriminated.

You know...there is this sense of 'we are the minority' with transexuals, and I understand it. You ask for acceptance, you ask for recognition, just being like ''anyone''. Well, by supporting such creeps, it will be a long hard road before it so happens, sorry to say.

[Distance]

If they were your kids, you bet you would feel for the family.


I would HOPE that if these were the kids of anyone on HA, they'd have been raised to know better for one, and for second- that said parent would have intervened and halted their behavior before it went any further.


Kids always mock adults, this is nothing new, and hasn't anything to do with being discriminated.

True, kids rarely hold back their feelings when they see someone they feel is different.

But allowing kids to do stuff like this, or worse- encouraging it, is what establishes the mindsets that cause discrimination in the first place.

How people reproduce & raise kids is how society is duplicated. If that means encouraging kids to target people who they identify as different or odd, then that is going to have a snowballing effect throughout the rest of society; eventually causing violence, job discrimination, failure to protect the civil liberties of others, etc.

And so you are talking about kids and their behavior...what about that nutty professor in a dress? What behavior is that?


No disrespect Sarah...sometimes one should stop looking at its own belly button and think the world revolves around one's community: there are kids, younger than that holding guns and killing. Raping, thieving...or getting killed.


Truth is, America is one bigot yet extremely violent country (that always allude to the same). I bet that ts probably sees far more hurtful than that in everyday life. You would go out like this and be so thin skinned? Yeah, let's take it out on a mother and kids. Great, isn't it? :roll:

[NYTSJulie]

I know I dont look like an "it" lol, the point is if people know your transgender then you can be discriminated.

You know...there is this sense of 'we are the minority' with transexuals, and I understand it. You ask for acceptance, you ask for recognition, just being like ''anyone''. Well, by supporting such creeps, it will be a long hard road before it so happens, sorry to say.

fasle, just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

[SarahG]

And so you are talking about kids and their behavior...what about that nutty professor in a dress? What behavior is that?

I was talking about the family- but since you ask, I would hope that no one from HA would act in the way anyone in the video did- the girl included.



No disrespect Sarah...sometimes one should stop looking at its own belly button and think the world revolves around one's community: there are kids, younger than that holding guns and killing. Raping, thieving...or getting killed.

Sure, I didn't say it was the most pressing problem our country, or even our world is facing at the moment. Nonetheless it IS a problem, and a preventable one.


I bet that ts probably sees far more hurtful than that in everyday life. You would go out like this and be so thin skinned?

I don't think transsexualism is a medical condition that cares about how thick skinned its patient is. Not everyone who is trans is going to be thick skinned, and some people have to become thick skinned with time...


Yeah, let's take it out on a mother and kids. Great, isn't it? :roll:

I thought I was pretty clear earlier in saying that everyone in that video was in the wrong, the girl who maced the kid so wrong that she should be thrown in jail for it. You don't mace or taze people simply because they are rude to you. It's wrong when cops do it, it's wrong when civilians do it.

[Distance]

I know I dont look like an "it" lol, the point is if people know your transgender then you can be discriminated.

You know...there is this sense of 'we are the minority' with transexuals, and I understand it. You ask for acceptance, you ask for recognition, just being like ''anyone''. Well, by supporting such creeps, it will be a long hard road before it so happens, sorry to say.

fasle, just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

Stand up and fight...kids? She did not have to mace them, just sit on them. I call that the sumo jump (with added fart). :lol:


Seriously. The best way to fight is through peace. Like Ghandi, like Martin Luther King. Not like Idi Amin or Ben Laden.

[NYTSJulie]

I know I dont look like an "it" lol, the point is if people know your transgender then you can be discriminated.

You know...there is this sense of 'we are the minority' with transexuals, and I understand it. You ask for acceptance, you ask for recognition, just being like ''anyone''. Well, by supporting such creeps, it will be a long hard road before it so happens, sorry to say.

fasle, just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

Stand up and fight...kids? She did not have to mace them, just sit on them. I call that the sumo jump (with added fart). :lol:


Seriously. The best way to fight is through peace. Like Ghandi, like Martin Luther King. Not like Idi Amin or Ben Laden.

LOL, its hard for an adverage white male to understand all this.

[Distance]

I know I dont look like an "it" lol, the point is if people know your transgender then you can be discriminated.

You know...there is this sense of 'we are the minority' with transexuals, and I understand it. You ask for acceptance, you ask for recognition, just being like ''anyone''. Well, by supporting such creeps, it will be a long hard road before it so happens, sorry to say.

fasle, just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

Stand up and fight...kids? She did not have to mace them, just sit on them. I call that the sumo jump (with added fart). :lol:


Seriously. The best way to fight is through peace. Like Ghandi, like Martin Luther King. Not like Idi Amin or Ben Laden.

LOL, its hard for an adverage white male to understand all this.

Well, for a moment I thought you liked the video...because you sprayed your underarms everyday with pepper gas instead of deodorant. :lol:

[fred41]

[quote]
You know, just because the op is a stunner should not have you try to sugar coat it. Servility does not serve honesty. ;)


i didn't look to see what the OP looked like before I posted on here. :roll:

...I think most of my answers on this site are pretty consistent and follow my beliefs..(with minor variations due to mood swings or alcohol..lol).
...just because i don't share your beliefs..doesn't mean I'm kissing up to an OP...I don't need to, I have a real life away from this site.

[Distance]

[quote]
You know, just because the op is a stunner should not have you try to sugar coat it. Servility does not serve honesty. ;)


i didn't look to see what the OP looked like before I posted on here. :roll:

...I think most of my answers on this site are pretty consistent and follow my beliefs..(with minor variations due to mood swings or alcohol..lol).
...just because i don't share your beliefs..doesn't mean I'm kissing up to an OP...I don't need to, I have a real life away from this site.

Good for you. I do believe you on all counts, of course. :lol:

[NYTSJulie]

I know I dont look like an "it" lol, the point is if people know your transgender then you can be discriminated.

You know...there is this sense of 'we are the minority' with transexuals, and I understand it. You ask for acceptance, you ask for recognition, just being like ''anyone''. Well, by supporting such creeps, it will be a long hard road before it so happens, sorry to say.

fasle, just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

Stand up and fight...kids? She did not have to mace them, just sit on them. I call that the sumo jump (with added fart). :lol:


Seriously. The best way to fight is through peace. Like Ghandi, like Martin Luther King. Not like Idi Amin or Ben Laden.

LOL, its hard for an adverage white male to understand all this.

Well, for a moment I thought you liked the video...because you sprayed your underarms everyday with pepper gas instead of deodorant. :lol:

so because I dont agree with you, and make a valid point saying "average white men wouldn’t understand this", then you come back and try to insult me personally with a dry dumb remark. stop now and spare yourself.

[Distance]

Think I best leave it as is. Irony does not travel too well. And humor is obviously not universal. :roll:

[2009AD]

just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

You make no sense. "Stand up and fight" against what? An obnoxious kid on the subway?

Comparing people who marched, and in some cases died, for voting and equal rights, to someone who assaults a bad-mannered kid with mace/pepper spray is insane.

Again, explain to us how the kids or the mother were a threat to the woman.

By the way, we have no credible evidence that this person is tg.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f506ec2d82/crackhead-hooker-maces-kid

[NYTSJulie]

just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

You make no sense. "Stand up and fight" against what? An obnoxious kid on the subway?

Comparing people who marched, and in some cases died, for voting and equal rights, to someone who assaults a bad-mannered kid with mace/pepper spray is insane.

Again, explain to us how the kids or the mother were a threat to the woman.

By the way, we have no credible evidence that this person is tg.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f506ec2d82/crackhead-hooker-maces-kid

Yes I am comparing transsexual life to that of any minority including the black movement, and yes people died in the black movement and so do transsexuals just for being who they are. The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others. They can’t find work and some of the less fortunate face discrimination every day. Walk a day in this girls shoes and I am sure you would have a different outlook. Your taking what I am saying wrong, I am not saying attack people lol, but don’t sit back and take it either. But I do understand why this girl acted the way she did, would I of acted differently probably, yes. I still give her 2 thumbs up lol.

[NYTSJulie]

By the way, we have no credible evidence that this person is tg.



well look at her, the kid even says "tuck your balls in"

[NYTSJulie]

that kid is way out of line and the mother isnt teaching him so the tranny did, i bet he wont be loud and insulting people again.

[Distance]

The things we read here are sometimes Dali-esque, to put it in a mild way.

[NYTSJulie]

The things we read here are sometimes Dali-esque, to put it in a mild way.

its crazyness, i still respect and understand the tranny.....its raining here so I am going shopping for a few hrs before the stores close.......smooches

[CaptainGeech]

This shit isn't funny and shouldn't be encouraged or applauded.

The family was wrong. But it did appear the mom tried to discourage the kid by slapping him upside the head at one point. Kids are assholes. You put a tranny (when the bitch acts like that she deserves to be called a tranny) dressed like that (crack whore attire) next to some kids, shit is going to hit the fan. At the very least they are going to stare and giggle. You would hope that the tranny would have the maturity and self control to ignore it or simply walk away. Sadly "she" had a rep to protect and couldn't let it go.

Its the circle of life. The tranny's parents probably did a shitty job raising "her" just as those kids parents (if the dad was actually around) did a shitty job raising them. Maybe one of those kids will follow in her footsteps and turn out to be an asshole tranny someday.

King Kong should be put in jail for macing that kid. She is a goon and a thug. Period. End of story. Boo hoo. People were teasing you. Get over it you fucking drama queen.

[2009AD]

Yes I am comparing transsexual life to that of any minority including the black movement, and yes people died in the black movement and so do transsexuals just for being who they are. The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others. They can’t find work and some of the less fortunate face discrimination every day. Walk a day in this girls shoes and I am sure you would have a different outlook. Your taking what I am saying wrong, I am not saying attack people lol, but don’t sit back and take it either. But I do understand why this girl acted the way she did, would I of acted differently probably, yes. I still give her 2 thumbs up lol.

Funny how you keep avoiding the question. What threat did the kids and mother pose?

[CaptainGeech]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!

[fred41]

Yes I am comparing transsexual life to that of any minority including the black movement, and yes people died in the black movement and so do transsexuals just for being who they are. The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others. They can’t find work and some of the less fortunate face discrimination every day. Walk a day in this girls shoes and I am sure you would have a different outlook. Your taking what I am saying wrong, I am not saying attack people lol, but don’t sit back and take it either. But I do understand why this girl acted the way she did, would I of acted differently probably, yes. I still give her 2 thumbs up lol.

Funny how you keep avoiding the question. What threat did the kids and mother pose?

She's gone shopping....can't u read..

.... :lol:

[Daddy99uk]

This is a classic "Two Wrongs don't make a right" situation.
I thought the video was actually very sad on a lot of fronts.

The two main ones being...

The TS was WAY OUT of order for attacking the CHILD.
There was no physical threat to her at all and there was no need to spray him.
She done it intentionally just before she was getting off, a very LOW move.

I also found it very sad that those CHILDREN were behaving in they way they did.
It's no wonder we're in a mess when parents are quite happy to let their children behave like that.

ALL VERY SAD :(

[AllanahStarrNYC]

This is what happens when people allow and raise their children to act like animals.

When I was a kid and I would do something really fucked up and get into trouble my mother would always say, "Look at you, it's your fault for behaving that way" And it certainly was.

EXAMPLE:
If I was going around and calling a black man a n*gger and taunting them I am know I would have been bound to get knocked over the head, as I should have been.

So there you go, that's what you get for fucking with people.
Teach your kids some manners.

Am I saying that what she did was right- no.
But this will be a lesson learned and I have no pity for those kids.

A child my ass, they were behaving like monsters.

[Silcc69]

just like the black movement or the gay movement and things like stone wall, you have to stand up and fight, if you dont then nothing will change, you cant ask for respect and have to demand it, and you teach people how to treat you...and this tranny taught that kid not to mess with trannys lol.

You make no sense. "Stand up and fight" against what? An obnoxious kid on the subway?

Comparing people who marched, and in some cases died, for voting and equal rights, to someone who assaults a bad-mannered kid with mace/pepper spray is insane.

Again, explain to us how the kids or the mother were a threat to the woman.

By the way, we have no credible evidence that this person is tg.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f506ec2d82/crackhead-hooker-maces-kid

Those boobs looked like a dead giveawy.

[PSL4u]

you cant condone this at all. That TS was way out of line assaulting a child, no matter how rude he or hi mother was. If a straight male had done this we would be calling for him to get ten years in jail.

Well even though your name is Lucy it’s obvious that you’re not a TS, you’re a straight cross dresser that has the mindset of a male. Any TS would understand how and why this tranny did what she did. All transsexuals have faced some kind of discrimination for being who they are in one form or another. Although I have never been called out like this I have been discriminated in other situations, all transsexuals have. I recently had a situation at the hospital, once I let it be know that I am a transsexual the whole tone changed. Think of a black person in the 40’s then times that by ten, people think we are creatures, things and its. We have no feelings and these people think it’s ok to publicly pick fun at this girl on the train. Thats why we try and pass, to avoid this, but some people cant pass. I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

You certainly don't look like a thing, an 'it', or a creature at all. It is in human nature (as inhuman it may sound to you) to make fun of people. Let's be honest: dressed as that ts was really calling for it. The whole family was trash, I agree...but spraying gas on impolite kids is out of line.

Maybe it wasn't right to mace that little kid, but it sure was funny to watch.

[blacktgirls]

The things we read here are sometimes Dali-esque, to put it in a mild way.

its crazyness, i still respect and understand the tranny.....its raining here so I am going shopping for a few hrs before the stores close.......smoochesDon't forget to tuck your balls in !

[NYTSJulie]

The things we read here are sometimes Dali-esque, to put it in a mild way.

its crazyness, i still respect and understand the tranny.....its raining here so I am going shopping for a few hrs before the stores close.......smoochesDon't forget to tuck your balls in !

always tucked, i only take them down when one of you closet fags puts money on the dresser....smooches

[NYTSJulie]

This is what happens when people allow and raise their children to act like animals.

When I was a kid and I would do something really fucked up and get into trouble my mother would always say, "Look at you, it's your fault for behaving that way" And it certainly was.

EXAMPLE:
If I was going around and calling a black man a n*gger and taunting them I am know I would have been bound to get knocked over the head, as I should have been.

So there you go, that's what you get for fucking with people.
Teach your kids some manners.

Am I saying that what she did was right- no.
But this will be a lesson learned and I have no pity for those kids.

A child my ass, they were behaving like monsters.

well said

[transmaven]

all in all a wholesome scene and thread well-suited to HA!

[blacktgirls]

this video would make a perfect story for Bill O'Reilly .

[Legend]

I missed this thread but i'll say what i said in the other one, that little kid got owned and he really deserved it.Those kids were so disrespectful it looks like the kids would have been better off raised by wolves.

Next time he'll know better then to talk to a grown up like that.

[cadcad]

I feel bad that the little kid had to learn his lesson with pepper spray but I'm willing to bet he will not antagonize strangers on the train anymore for damn sure.

[DL_NL]

Geez, I could hardly understand a word of that 'exchange', my speakers distorted the hell out of it...

[yodajazz]

Although the woman was wrong for using the pepper, kids do have to taught that it is not wise to mess with strangers. That woman did not look like she had an easy life. Who know what had been through to get where she was at that exact time.

His mother smack him more of a symbolic way before the spray. But He would have been better off had she smacked him hard.

One more thing. Why did the person have to referred to as a "crack head"? Seems to me like the system is blaming poverty on crack, while they are cutting back on education programs and sending jobs overseas.

[Chaotic]

Now, as much as the "tranny" may have responded to a rifle graze with an artillery barrage, I'm looking square at the mother on this.

It's a parent's job to ensure their children's safety, and she failed miserably in that regard. Stopping those kids from antagonizing that person probably would have kept anyone from being maced.

Funny how common sense is becoming an oxymoron these days...... :smh

[keepingitreal470]

I knew there was a reason I was never attracted to Julie. Anyone who believes macing a 10 yr old who is no physical threat is an absolute moron who should seek professional help. You just can't make this stuff up. And comparing the gay rights struggle to the public lynchings that my people suffered is totally assinine. Hara thank you for having some common sense.

[keepingitreal470]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

[2009AD]

Although the woman was wrong for using the pepper, kids do have to taught that it is not wise to mess with strangers. That woman did not look like she had an easy life. Who know what had been through to get where she was at that exact time.

So interesting. You always preach love and compassion, but in this case you seem to condone assaulting a child who poses no physical threat to an adult. Can you admit that the adult committed an assault by macing a minor who posed no threat?


I missed this thread but i'll say what i said in the other one, that little kid got owned and he really deserved it.

Legend, you have to stop kissing TG anus. You are saying a child who poses NO threat to an ADULT should be maced. Explain to us how the child was a threat?


I knew there was a reason I was never attracted to Julie. Anyone who believes macing a 10 yr old who is no physical threat is an absolute moron who should seek professional help. You just can't make this stuff up. And comparing the gay rights struggle to the public lynchings that my people suffered is totally assinine. Hara thank you for having some common sense.

I've rarely agreed with you but, this time, you nailed it on the head.

It's a bit shocking that these clowns can not see that an adult committed an assault.

[yodajazz]

Although the woman was wrong for using the pepper, kids do have to taught that it is not wise to mess with strangers. That woman did not look like she had an easy life. Who know what had been through to get where she was at that exact time.

So interesting. You always preach love and compassion, but in this case you seem to condone assaulting a child who poses no physical threat to an adult. Can you admit that the adult committed an assault by macing a minor who posed no threat?



I knew there was a reason I was never attracted to Julie. Anyone who believes macing a 10 yr old who is no physical threat is an absolute moron who should seek professional help. You just can't make this stuff up. And comparing the gay rights struggle to the public lynchings that my people suffered is totally assinine. Hara thank you for having some common sense.

I've rarely agreed with you but, this time, you nailed it on the head.

It's a bit shocking that these clowns can not see that an adult committed an assault.

Of course the woman was wrong in pepper spraying the kid. But for me the bigger outrage was to let a child humiliate an adult in public. People build up frustrations from lifetimes of situations. Then some minor infraction could trigger them into a homicidal rage. The poster claims the woman was a crackhead. All the more reason not to let your child taunt the person.

But the other point was he mother did tell him to stop and he didn't. He didnt respect his mother enough to hear her. If she had to get his attention by hitting him harder than the symbolic slap she made, it may have save him from being pepper sprayed. Kids need to have enough fear of their parents to help them respect their words. If it takes the sting of a belt to do so, they are better off than being beaten by the police and then thrown in jail. Punshment are not as effective these days when they have tv's and video games in thier rooms, cell phones internet access, etc. The culture that considers corporal punishment as abuse, also locks up African Amercan adults to a greater percentage of any other group on planet earth.

[Nicole Dupre]

Those kids learned several very valuable lessons. When you ride the subway, children that big might as well be midgets with no facial hair as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows that the one looked like he chows down like a Sumo wrestler.

Children should be seen and not heard. If you can't teach your kids that simple rule, don't be surprised when someone else does it for you. If you want to walk your dog, either keep it on a leash or train it to behave itself. Children are essentially like a dumb animals. If you've taken it upon yourself have one or a dozen, an enormous responsibility comes with the territory. You can't just sit on your fat ass and spout bullshit to strangers in close quarters, such as a public train.

As someone who is transgendered, and not likely to have their own little posse of thugs to back them up, I hope that fat bitch thinks twice before she starts talking shit to a complete stranger again. They were all well-beyond the diaper stage. They didn't look like they were on their way to church, and they sure as hell didn't behave like it. It's her fault her kids got maced. What kind of whore are you to use your own children as leverage, to outnumber someone and harass them? She might as well have been letting them play in traffic because she was busy watching television.

And face it. That M2F was no Miss Universe, but she was putting that sloppy bitch to shame as far as how fuckable she looked to the average straight guy. Imo there was definitely some jealousy going on there. Fat mama's gonna sit there with her little welfare cash-cows and throw stones at a TS? Not that time, biotch! lmfao

[2009AD]

Of course the woman was wrong in pepper spraying the kid. But for me the bigger outrage was to let a child humiliate an adult in public.

Yoda, A simple question for you. Did the woman commit a crime by macing the child? Yes or No?

And please comment on the statement by the OP


The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

[Legend]

.Legend, you have to stop kissing TG anus.

lol,thats coming from a guy who literally worships feet.



You are saying a child who poses NO threat to an ADULT should be maced. Explain to us how the child was a threat?

You can't go into the real world talking shit to complete strangers, kid or adult, thats a rule for anyone.That "child" didn't act like a child he acted like a monster, maybe if his mother would have taught how to interact with strangers at home if wouldn't have taken mace to teach his badass a lesson.

[2009AD]

.Legend, you have to stop kissing TG anus.

lol,thats coming from a guy who literally worships feet.



You are saying a child who poses NO threat to an ADULT should be maced. Explain to us how the child was a threat?

You can't go into the real world talking shit to complete strangers, kid or adult, thats a rule for anyone.That "child" didn't act like a child he acted like a monster, maybe if his mother would have taught how to interact with strangers at home if wouldn't have taken mace to teach his badass a lesson.

Yep, I like womens' feet. We both like chicks with dicks. So what?

Being obnoxious is not a crime. Macing someone who poses no threat is a crime. Get a clue. I dare you to state what the woman did was legal.

[Sinister]

fat people getting hurt in some form slightly returns balance to the world, good vid

[AllanahStarrNYC]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

[2009AD]

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

You may want to read the posts again.

The only person trivializing history is Julie. I quote her ridiculous and asinine comment "The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others."

Again, my question: Did the woman assault the kid by macing him in the face? Please explain.

[Floyd R]

It's very likely that Julie was smoking crack when she typed her comments. Cut her some slack and forget about it.




The only person trivializing history is Julie. I quote her ridiculous and asinine comment "The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others."

[keepingitreal470]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.My comments really were directed at Julie and not yourself. You didn't make the stupid ass statement, she did. But since you chimed in, let me give you one more reason you should never compare what blacks have gone thru to what gays have. We were born this way. We can't change our skin color. Transitioning is a choice. Say what you will but society will always see it as a choice. I've never seen a trannie hung in public, tarred and feathered, for their choice.

[Legend]

Yep, I like womens' feet. We both like chicks with dicks. So what?

"chicks with dicks" thats what people say when they think of transsexuals as some sort of fetish.I like women in general and when i say that i meant gg and transgender women.So we both like women.



Being obnoxious is not a crime. Macing someone who poses no threat is a crime. Get a clue. I dare you to state what the woman did was legal.


I think the courts would have a good laugh at that video, that transsexual probably save that kid from bootcamp or possibly prison in the future.A kid that f**king bad needs a swift kick in the ass to set them straight.

[alyssats]

just for me:

those kids are just so damn noisy and loud, seems to be a family who are not educated or civilized at all. the kid had a taste of his own medicine jaja. always remember respect everyone to be respected also

but if im the TS girl i would not do that to the kid. I wouldnt even talk to that family, i wouldnt go down to their level!

[2009AD]

Being obnoxious is not a crime. Macing someone who poses no threat is a crime. Get a clue. I dare you to state what the woman did was legal.

I think the courts would have a good laugh at that video

So, Legend, are you saying that an adult has the right to mace a kid who is being obnoxious? Yes or no?

[yodajazz]

Of course the woman was wrong in pepper spraying the kid. But for me the bigger outrage was to let a child humiliate an adult in public.

Yoda, A simple question for you. Did the woman commit a crime by macing the child? Yes or No?

And please comment on the statement by the OP


The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.
Yes, the woman on the train committed a crime, but it's not a black and white issue. The 'victims' clearly had a part in escalating the emotional atmosphere, which led to the assault. There was a popular movie series starring Charle Bronson about a person going after bad guys who had harmed his family, though he was clearly breaking the law as a vigilante.

As far as the discrimination question; I do not belief transexuals have had it far worse. I say all discrimination is bad, so it is unimportant to try and decide who was treated worse, or compare injuries.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.My comments really were directed at Julie and not yourself. You didn't make the stupid ass statement, she did. But since you chimed in, let me give you one more reason you should never compare what blacks have gone thru to what gays have. We were born this way. We can't change our skin color. Transitioning is a choice. Say what you will but society will always see it as a choice. I've never seen a trannie hung in public, tarred and feathered, for their choice.

You have got to be kidding with your ignorant and simplistic statements?

First, someone who is part of this community should very well know that transitioning is absolutely NOT a choice. By saying so, you are adding to the ignorant social stigma that exist by those who have no understanding of what this gender is, and I assume you have some sort of understanding\? I was born this way- I HAD NO CHOICE. If I had not done this I would most like be DEAD by now. I had absolutely no choice in the way that I was born- how effiminate I was and how I naturally acted like a girl and suffered dearly for it growing up. I have always acted and had the same manorisms since I can remember, I just simply chnaged the physical apperance to fit my actions, behavior, and mind.

Was it my choice to be taunted, bullied, and abused by other kids fromt he time I was five years old for being so feminine and living with that abuse until I was 16? NO

Was it my choice to have been beaten up by a gang when I was 18 for appearing to feminine? NO. I was beaten up, my skull cracked and was called a fag all the way through it. That is a HATE crime.

I was simply born a way that I could not hide or change, it's just who I am and trust me I have paid the price for it. I am a lucky one that I was able to transtion which indeed has been a blessing as far I am much more happier but that does not mean that I still can't face discrimination and social stigma.

Are you really suggesting that violence towards transsexuals does not exists in our society today?

Maybe you have never seen a transseuxal woman hung in public, tarred and feather but I am sure you are very well aware that transsexuals are indeed STILL murdered (in public) sometimes as the case of Lateisha Green, was shot and killed by Dwight DeLee in Syracuse, NY in 2008 because she was a ts.

What about Leslie Mora, who was attacked by two men in Queens this summer as she was going home. They beat her with a belt right on the street as they called her 'faggot, left hr bloody and cowering on the floor' until a car stopped and helped her.

What about Carmella Etienne who was simply walking on the street a few days later in Queens also ,when two men began to assult her throwing bottles and rocks at her? And when she threatned to call he police
"One of the two men responded, "The police don't care about you, they won't do anything to us," and began to pelt her with bottles. Another shouted at her, "Don't ever walk that block anymore or we will slash your throat."


As you can't change your skin color, I can't change my gender and who I am.

So please- as you are educated in the the history of the plight for equality of blacks in this country-you should become a little more educated on LGBT issues and what WE have gone through and go through still.

It's definately not the same struggle, nor am I comparing it- BUT it is a struggle- LGBT people are one of the most marginalized groups in this country with lesser rights than any other citezens in this country.

[Nicole Dupre]

:roll: Might I remind some of you that the bitch slapped one of her OWN FUCKING KIDS!?! So it's ok to use violence as the mother, but when a stranger kicks it up a notch everyone wants to scream bloody murder? Please!!! If you smack your kids upside the head as you verbally antagonize a stranger, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING AS SUPERFICIAL AND INNOCUOUS AS THEIR GENDER IDENTITY OR THEIR CLOTHING, you are basically stomping on a landmine!

Case closed.
__________________________________________________ _________

Now, 2009AD, let's not forget what a mentally ill bully you've proven yourself to be. You went for FK's jugular for about 2-3 weeks on the HD Anon forum until we all concurred that you were "vickifanindc". At which point, you put your tail between your legs and STFU. So you have nerve trying to pontificate now on here, you hater. Not to mention, you've already been banned from HA for acting like a complete ASSHOLE. Remember that, "BRAVEMAN"? You've lost all credibility, so stop trying to play Mother Teresa. You're TIRED AND LATE.

[2009AD]

:roll: Might I remind some of you that the bitch slapped one of her OWN FUCKING KIDS!?! So it's ok to use violence as the mother, but when a stranger kicks it up a notch everyone wants to scream bloody murder? Please!!! If you smack your kids upside the head as you verbally antagonize a stranger, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING AS SUPERFICIAL AND INNOCUOUS AS THEIR GENDER IDENTITY OR THEIR CLOTHING, you are basically stomping on a landmine!

Case closed.
__________________________________________________ _________

Now, 2009AD, let's not forget what a mentally ill bully you've proven yourself to be. You went for FK's jugular for about 2-3 weeks on the HD Anon forum until we all concurred that you were "vickifanindc". At which point, you put your tail between your legs and STFU. So you have nerve trying to pontificate now on here, you hater. Not to mention, you've already been banned from HA for acting like a complete ASSHOLE. Remember that, "BRAVEMAN"? You've lost all credibility, so stop trying to play Mother Teresa. You're TIRED AND LATE.

Nicole, my big tit Sicilian baby, did the woman in pink need to mace the kid? Was he a threat?

[Nicole Dupre]

You have got to be kidding with your ignorant and simplistic statements?

First, someone who is part of this community should very well know that transitioning is absolutely NOT a choice. By saying so, you are adding to the ignorant social stigma that exist by those who have no understanding of what this gender is, and I assume you have some sort of understanding\? I was born this way- I HAD NO CHOICE. If I had not done this I would most like be DEAD by now. I had absolutely no choice in the way that I was born- how effiminate I was and how I naturally acted like a girl and suffered dearly for it growing up. I have always acted and had the same manorisms since I can remember, I just simply chnaged the physical apperance to fit my actions, behavior, and mind.

Was it my choice to be taunted, bullied, and abused by other kids from the time I was five years old for being so feminine and living with that abuse until I was 16? NO

Was it my choice to have been beaten up by a gang when I was 18 for appearing to feminine? NO. I was beaten up, my skull cracked and was called a fag all the way through it. That is a HATE crime.

I was simply born a way that I could not hide or change, it's just who I am and trust me I have paid the price for it. I am a lucky one that I was able to transition which indeed has been a blessing as far I am much more happier but that does not mean that I still can't face discrimination and social stigma.

Are you really suggesting that violence towards transsexuals does not exists in our society today?

Maybe you have never seen a transseuxal woman hung in public, tarred and feather but I am sure you are very well aware that transsexuals are indeed STILL murdered (in public) sometimes as the case of Lateisha Green, was shot and killed by Dwight DeLee in Syracuse, NY in 2008 because she was a ts.

What about Leslie Mora, who was attacked by two men in Queens this summer as she was going home. They beat her with a belt right on the street as they called her 'faggot', left her bloody and cowering on the floor' until a car stopped and helped her.

What about Carmella Etienne who was simply walking on the street a few days later in Queens also ,when two men began to assault her throwing bottles and rocks at her? And when she threatened to call he police
"One of the two men responded, "The police don't care about you, they won't do anything to us," and began to pelt her with bottles. Another shouted at her, "Don't ever walk that block anymore or we will slash your throat."


As you can't change your skin color, I can't change my gender and who I am.

So please- as you are educated in the the history of the plight for equality of blacks in this country-you should become a little more educated on LGBT issues and what WE have gone through and go through still.

It's definitely not the same struggle, nor am I comparing it- BUT it is a struggle- LGBT people are one of the most marginalized groups in this country with lesser rights than any other citizens in this country.

Everything you've said is sadly true, and I feel for you as I do for ALL of my M2F sisters, Allanah. I might add that the number of LGBT people slaughtered by the Brown Shirts, the SS, the Nazis, etc is now thought to be actually much higher due to the fact much of it was unreported and the incidents were more isolated.

The men of color here, most of whom remain sheepishly anonymous, are trying to out-victimize us when they have relatively very little to bitch about within their own lifetimes. I'd even put forth the idea that somewhere today, hundreds-if-not-thousands of "male" children in this country alone have been either ostracized or bullied for being "fags", and have yet to even suspect that they might very-well actually be struggling with gender issues and not neccesarily their sexuality. Meanwhile, far more African American kids are being praised in today's social climate for their "street credibility" and being grandfathered in to "urban culture". That's the irony, unfortunately.

Let's be honest. Almost everyone with a dick gets a pat on the back for wanting to join the army, become a cop, acting "thug", or fist-fighting. But if you don't, you get reminded of how there's something "wrong with you" by a world filled with inhumane scumbags. People just love to tell you what your "problem is", when often they themselves are the real only problem.

I was humiliated, often ganged up on, and beaten throughout grade school. I had a large bottle thrown at my head at age 16 from a passing car as I walked alone in a gay neighborhood of Manhattan. I've had friends who've been beaten and raped, or were made to feel so badly that they simply destroyed themselves. I've had my life threatened on more than one occasion. I've been beaten, choked, and had a tooth bashed out of my face as an adult.

And at this point, I'm not getting clocked but it still never ends. I went to the hospital ER about 6 months ago, and heard a variety of improper comments. And forget about a job interview - all it takes is one background check on a SS# to be shot down for an "unofficial" reason.

[LittleGuy]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.My comments really were directed at Julie and not yourself. You didn't make the stupid ass statement, she did. But since you chimed in, let me give you one more reason you should never compare what blacks have gone thru to what gays have. We were born this way. We can't change our skin color. Transitioning is a choice. Say what you will but society will always see it as a choice. I've never seen a trannie hung in public, tarred and feathered, for their choice.

You have got to be kidding with your ignorant and simplistic statements?

First, someone who is part of this community should very well know that transitioning is absolutely NOT a choice. By saying so, you are adding to the ignorant social stigma that exist by those who have no understanding of what this gender is, and I assume you have some sort of understanding\? I was born this way- I HAD NO CHOICE. If I had not done this I would most like be DEAD by now. I had absolutely no choice in the way that I was born- how effiminate I was and how I naturally acted like a girl and suffered dearly for it growing up. I have always acted and had the same manorisms since I can remember, I just simply chnaged the physical apperance to fit my actions, behavior, and mind.

Was it my choice to be taunted, bullied, and abused by other kids fromt he time I was five years old for being so feminine and living with that abuse until I was 16? NO

Was it my choice to have been beaten up by a gang when I was 18 for appearing to feminine? NO. I was beaten up, my skull cracked and was called a fag all the way through it. That is a HATE crime.

I was simply born a way that I could not hide or change, it's just who I am and trust me I have paid the price for it. I am a lucky one that I was able to transtion which indeed has been a blessing as far I am much more happier but that does not mean that I still can't face discrimination and social stigma.

Are you really suggesting that violence towards transsexuals does not exists in our society today?

Maybe you have never seen a transseuxal woman hung in public, tarred and feather but I am sure you are very well aware that transsexuals are indeed STILL murdered (in public) sometimes as the case of Lateisha Green, was shot and killed by Dwight DeLee in Syracuse, NY in 2008 because she was a ts.

What about Leslie Mora, who was attacked by two men in Queens this summer as she was going home. They beat her with a belt right on the street as they called her 'faggot, left hr bloody and cowering on the floor' until a car stopped and helped her.

What about Carmella Etienne who was simply walking on the street a few days later in Queens also ,when two men began to assult her throwing bottles and rocks at her? And when she threatned to call he police
"One of the two men responded, "The police don't care about you, they won't do anything to us," and began to pelt her with bottles. Another shouted at her, "Don't ever walk that block anymore or we will slash your throat."


As you can't change your skin color, I can't change my gender and who I am.

So please- as you are educated in the the history of the plight for equality of blacks in this country-you should become a little more educated on LGBT issues and what WE have gone through and go through still.

It's definately not the same struggle, nor am I comparing it- BUT it is a struggle- LGBT people are one of the most marginalized groups in this country with lesser rights than any other citezens in this country.

:roll:

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole, my big tit Sicilian baby, did the woman in pink need to mace the kid? Was he a threat?

"Need" is a hard to define word. What do you "need" to do?

But, if I have answer your ambiguous question, "YES" my anonymous African American brother. That fat little fuck had no business even standing up and coming anywhere NEAR that transsexual. So, kid or adult, it doesn't matter. If it was Gary Coleman pulling this shit, we'd all be saying he asked for it. The point is, they were all menacing her and felt the "need" to "make" her feel threatened. Once human beings watch a mother become violent with her own children, as she relentlessly antagonizes someone minding their own business, you've put that person in a fucked up position. Don't expect indifference.

[LittleGuy]

I cant believe she actually tried to compare the two. Many of my family members are in the ground because of the "color" of their skin.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I cant believe she actually tried to compare the two. Many of my family members are in the ground because of the "color" of their skin.

And so are some of my friends.

And I WASNT COMPARING.
Julie was

I was not standing for the minimalizing the prejudice and violence we face as lgbt people.

Get it right.

Quickly to roll your eyes at my experiences and those others who have been victims of hate crimes.-and you claim to have people you know lost their lives as hate crimes? Then you have learned nothing.

Well perhaps in some people minds killing a fag, is a lesser than killing a black or a jew. Do the math

[Nicole Dupre]

I cant believe she actually tried to compare the two. Many of my family members are in the ground because of the "color" of their skin.

Seriously, do you think the victims we've mourned are going to play second fiddle in our hearts to the ones you have? Are you saying that racial hate crimes are less OK than other types of bigoted hate crimes?

Again, some of you want to "out-victim" the LGBT community, which is extremely offensive. I see MY people in the hospital and sadly visit THEIR cemetery plots. I don't expect you to. You can't even show your face on a forum.

[yodajazz]

I cant believe she actually tried to compare the two. Many of my family members are in the ground because of the "color" of their skin.

And so are some of my friends.

And I WASNT COMPARING.
Julie was

I was not standing for the minimalizing the prejudice and violence we face as lgbt people.

Get it right.

Quickly to roll your eyes at my experiences and those others who have been victims of hate crimes.-and you claim to have people you know lost their lives as hate crimes? Then you have learned nothing.

Well perhaps in some people minds killing a fag, is a lesser than killing a black or a jew. Do the math

Well, Jesus 'did the math' some two thousand years ago. He said something like "That which you do to the least of my brethren, you do unto me". I would hope that no one is really minimizing hate crimes, any hate crimes. The contest is not about who was treated worse; its about who can treat the most people with fairness and dignity. It also says somewhere in the Bible to, not judge people by appearances. Both Blacks and LBGT people have been often judged by appearances. Sometimes people are judged because of someone elses appearance or behavior in the same community.

And if you look at; not treating people with dignity was the cause of the whole incident. And it was also the result of the incident, i.e. an assault.

[keepingitreal470]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.My comments really were directed at Julie and not yourself. You didn't make the stupid ass statement, she did. But since you chimed in, let me give you one more reason you should never compare what blacks have gone thru to what gays have. We were born this way. We can't change our skin color. Transitioning is a choice. Say what you will but society will always see it as a choice. I've never seen a trannie hung in public, tarred and feathered, for their choice.

You have got to be kidding with your ignorant and simplistic statements?

First, someone who is part of this community should very well know that transitioning is absolutely NOT a choice. By saying so, you are adding to the ignorant social stigma that exist by those who have no understanding of what this gender is, and I assume you have some sort of understanding\? I was born this way- I HAD NO CHOICE. If I had not done this I would most like be DEAD by now. I had absolutely no choice in the way that I was born- how effiminate I was and how I naturally acted like a girl and suffered dearly for it growing up. I have always acted and had the same manorisms since I can remember, I just simply chnaged the physical apperance to fit my actions, behavior, and mind.

Was it my choice to be taunted, bullied, and abused by other kids fromt he time I was five years old for being so feminine and living with that abuse until I was 16? NO

Was it my choice to have been beaten up by a gang when I was 18 for appearing to feminine? NO. I was beaten up, my skull cracked and was called a fag all the way through it. That is a HATE crime.

I was simply born a way that I could not hide or change, it's just who I am and trust me I have paid the price for it. I am a lucky one that I was able to transtion which indeed has been a blessing as far I am much more happier but that does not mean that I still can't face discrimination and social stigma.

Are you really suggesting that violence towards transsexuals does not exists in our society today?

Maybe you have never seen a transseuxal woman hung in public, tarred and feather but I am sure you are very well aware that transsexuals are indeed STILL murdered (in public) sometimes as the case of Lateisha Green, was shot and killed by Dwight DeLee in Syracuse, NY in 2008 because she was a ts.

What about Leslie Mora, who was attacked by two men in Queens this summer as she was going home. They beat her with a belt right on the street as they called her 'faggot, left hr bloody and cowering on the floor' until a car stopped and helped her.

What about Carmella Etienne who was simply walking on the street a few days later in Queens also ,when two men began to assult her throwing bottles and rocks at her? And when she threatned to call he police
"One of the two men responded, "The police don't care about you, they won't do anything to us," and began to pelt her with bottles. Another shouted at her, "Don't ever walk that block anymore or we will slash your throat."


As you can't change your skin color, I can't change my gender and who I am.

So please- as you are educated in the the history of the plight for equality of blacks in this country-you should become a little more educated on LGBT issues and what WE have gone through and go through still.

It's definately not the same struggle, nor am I comparing it- BUT it is a struggle- LGBT people are one of the most marginalized groups in this country with lesser rights than any other citezens in this country.Allanah, you missed something very important that I said. I said SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT TRANSITIONING AS A CHOICE! Personally, I hope someone turns that tape over to the police and they go looking to arrest that trannie. If a cop was present, she would be in jail. And no cop is gonna tell that mother her kids got what they deserved. But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

[Nicole Dupre]

And if you look at; not treating people with dignity was the cause of the whole incident. And it was also the result of the incident, i.e. an assault.

Thank you. That situation seemed destined to get worse before it could get any better. Imho, getting pepper sprayed was a far better wind-up than any kind of genuine tragedy. But unfortunately, that little boy is likely to take more lumps from his brain-dead "mother" in the future than getting maced on a train. Nevermind the fact that the bitch lacked enough maternal instinct and strength of character to give him some love or guidance, which might've prevented any of it from happening in the first place.

[Nicole Dupre]

Allanah, you missed something very important that I said. I said SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT TRANSITIONING AS A CHOICE! Personally, I hope someone turns that tape over to the police and they go looking to arrest that trannie. If a cop was present, she would be in jail. And no cop is gonna tell that mother her kids got what they deserved. But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

"SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT TRANSITIONING AS A CHOICE", or you will? Sounds like you think so too, or you just lack the conviction to stand up against both types of injustice.

Now seriously, wtf do you care if that tranny gets caught? Sounds like you need some bigger shit to worry about. The whole situation was unfortunate. Why hope it gets any worse? Do you honestly think that the TS is going to look for more families to mace? Bitch, please. :roll:

[keepingitreal470]

Allanah, you missed something very important that I said. I said SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT TRANSITIONING AS A CHOICE! Personally, I hope someone turns that tape over to the police and they go looking to arrest that trannie. If a cop was present, she would be in jail. And no cop is gonna tell that mother her kids got what they deserved. But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

"SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT TRANSITIONING AS A CHOICE", or you will? Sounds like you think so too, or you just lack the conviction to stand up against both types of injustice.

Now seriously, wtf do you care if that tranny gets caught? Sounds like you need some bigger shit to worry about. The whole situation was unfortunate. Why hope it gets any worse? Do you honestly think that the TS is going to look for more families to mace? Bitch, please. :roll:But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

[SarahG]

Although the woman was wrong for using the pepper, kids do have to taught that it is not wise to mess with strangers.

Agreed, though I would have put it somewhat differently. Even if it were perfectly safe for kids to be rude to strangers, that doesn't mean they should. Not being rude is a moral/ethics issue as much as its a safety issue.

So to sum that part up: Parenting attempt fail.


And comparing the gay rights struggle to the public lynchings that my people suffered is totally assinine. Hara thank you for having some common sense.

There is a big thing that makes the plight of black people throughout American history worse than the plight of trans people in American history.

I'm thinking of a seven letter word that starts with S.

You just can't compare the two because of the whole slavery thing. That is a huge difference, and one that cannot be ignored. If someone can show me an instance of trans people being rounded up by the hundreds, put on ships, and then sent to countries to be put to manual farming labor I'll reconsider my view on the subject. Coming from a family that owned slaves, I know exactly what that institution entailed and am not about to say that a group "had it worse than that" just because of all the commonalities as far as violence, discrimination, and stigmatization are concerned.

I disagree with your lynching example. Lynching is when a mob attacks someone and kills them without using a trial to ascertain whether or not they committed a crime. Using that definition trans people have been, and still are lynched in America from time to time. As common as blacks had it? No, but there's also a 14 fold population difference here. Blacks represent 13-14% of the population versus 1-2% for trans people. Yet even with this massive difference in population, it would be easier to find examples of trans lynchings within the last 15 years, then black lynchings- except perhaps cases where the victim is both. There are commonalities as far as violence & discrimination are concerned... and in the case of the later, discrimination against race was (on paper) outlawed way before it was against gender identity (which is still largely legal in the United States, to say nothing of the world).

NONETHELESS, this whole "who had it worse" crap is:
1- counter productive. Do we really want to bring race debates into trans issues when being trans does not care what color your skin is?
2- a red herring. Really, has nothing to do with what happened in that train.

At the end of the day this parent, and I do use that term loosely here, was incapable of raising her kids to be polite, productive members of society. You simply don't allow your kids to go around insulting strangers... and this girl was criminally out of line in macing a KID who posed no threat. Whether we are sympathetic to the girl in the video or not, she shouldn't have maced the kid.

[Dinand]

Macing a kid, I bet he's really proud of himself for doing that. I hope they find him and will press charges against him.

[LittleGuy]

I cant believe she actually tried to compare the two. Many of my family members are in the ground because of the "color" of their skin.

Seriously, do you think the victims we've mourned are going to play second fiddle in our hearts to the ones you have? Are you saying that racial hate crimes are less OK than other types of bigoted hate crimes?

Again, some of you want to "out-victim" the LGBT community, which is extremely offensive. I see MY people in the hospital and sadly visit THEIR cemetery plots. I don't expect you to. You can't even show your face on a forum.

Ive sent my pictures to many women on here. Ask around dear

[Nicole Dupre]

But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

"Subscribes" to what point of view? One you can't comprehend? Yeah, you're "keeping it real" alright. "Real" stupid. Great response, brainiac.

Now I KNOW that you think transitioning and being gay is like choosing an elective in college. I would never argue for a second that black people have not been persecuted and shit on, probably more than any other racial demographic in recorded history. But you seem to think that you can cloud the issue here and you can't. When any of us can be victimized over something superficial, we can ALL be victimized. But anyone who has a need to use a politician who won the election as their avatar is probably a knee-jerk moron. You're no better than Belial, who felt the need to hijack a thread with the opposing viewpoint to yours. No matter what, the trannies had to shit it up to satisfy BOTH of your retarded asses. Well, sorry if the transsexuals here are not making you the poster child for discrimination on a TS forum. In addition, you're certainly no Dr Martin Luther King OR Obama. You're a broken record. If you want to dwell on race, you're on the wrong forum. On here, as long as they have a cock and are girls, that's what the criteria is. They can be green, and somebody would jerk off. I mean, there's already a few "Black Tgirl only" threads. And the video in question was a black on black "crime". So can you drop it now, Al Sharpton? Good fucking LORD!

So now where are you off to? A gay Jewish forum? An Asian lesbian forum? Dumbass. :roll:

[4ever_ngt]

10 Fucking pages of this bullshit are you kidding me..?? Do any of you live in LA or ridden the LA transit system here..??? Prob not so heres my 2 cents... This is nothing new...its one of the reasons i dread taking the subway here in LA or through any minority neighborhood because this type of behavior is rather standard fare. I cant tell you how many times I've seen Tg women disrespected on the train going to Hollywood for no reason other than who they are. & while i cant condone maceing da kid I totally understand...The minority youth in LA are beyond outta control & their parents tend to be no better with very lil respect for just about anyone or thing. Truth is she probably should have maced the mom instead. People are always saying it takes a village to raise children..well there you go.. A village member laying da smack down sort of speak....

[Nicole Dupre]

Ive sent my pictures to many women on here. Ask around dear

And I care because... ?

Join the club. The point was, if you want to make race paramount on a TS forum, you should be able to do better than hide your looks. Obviously, both transsexuals and people of color suffer discrimination. Is your discrimination more important than mine? Not to me, it's not. Slavery is over. Being gay is practically vanilla. But transsexuals are still struggling for the same rights as both gay AND black people, and that's fucking pathetic.

[Nicole Dupre]

10 Fucking pages of this bullshit are you kidding me..?? Do any of you live in LA or ridden the LA transit system here..??? Prob not so heres my 2 cents... This is nothing new...its one of the reasons i dread taking the subway here in LA or through any minority neighborhood because this type of behavior is rather standard fare. I cant tell you how many times I've seen Tg women disrespected on the train going to Hollywood for no reason other than who they are. & while i cant condone maceing da kid I totally understand...The minority youth in LA are beyond outta control & their parents tend to be no better with very lil respect for just about anyone or thing. Truth is she probably should have maced the mom instead. People are always saying it takes a village to raise children..well there you go.. A village member laying da smack down sort of speak.... :rock2

[Nicole Dupre]

Macing a kid, I bet he's really proud of himself for doing that. I hope they find him and will press charges against him.

What was that, you big drama queen WOMAN? "He"? "Him"?

[keepingitreal470]

But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

"Subscribes" to what point of view? One you can't comprehend? Yeah, you're "keeping it real" alright. "Real" stupid. Great response, brainiac.

Now I KNOW that you think transitioning and being gay is like choosing an elective in college. I would never argue for a second that black people have not been persecuted and shit on, probably more than any other racial demographic in recorded history. But you seem to think that you can cloud the issue here and you can't. When any of us can be victimized over something superficial, we can ALL be victimized. But anyone who has a need to use a politician who won the election as their avatar is probably a knee-jerk moron. You're no better than Belial, who felt the need to hijack a thread with the opposing viewpoint to yours. No matter what, the trannies had to shit it up to satisfy BOTH of your retarded asses. Well, sorry if the transsexuals here are not making you the poster child for discrimination on a TS forum. In addition, you're certainly no Dr Martin Luther King OR Obama. You're a broken record. If you want to dwell on race, you're on the wrong forum. On here, as long as they have a cock and are girls, that's what the criteria is. They can be green, and somebody would jerk off. I mean, there's already a few "Black Tgirl only" threads. And the video in question was a black on black "crime". So can you drop it now, Al Sharpton? Good fucking LORD!

So now where are you off to? A gay Jewish forum? An Asian lesbian forum? Dumbass. :roll: For the last time, But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum. THIS MEANS YOU!!!!!! I see you havent changed. Watch what you say to me out that sewer filled mouth. Jersey aint that far from me.

[fred41]

But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

"Subscribes" to what point of view? One you can't comprehend? Yeah, you're "keeping it real" alright. "Real" stupid. Great response, brainiac.

Now I KNOW that you think transitioning and being gay is like choosing an elective in college. I would never argue for a second that black people have not been persecuted and shit on, probably more than any other racial demographic in recorded history. But you seem to think that you can cloud the issue here and you can't. When any of us can be victimized over something superficial, we can ALL be victimized. But anyone who has a need to use a politician who won the election as their avatar is probably a knee-jerk moron. You're no better than Belial, who felt the need to hijack a thread with the opposing viewpoint to yours. No matter what, the trannies had to shit it up to satisfy BOTH of your retarded asses. Well, sorry if the transsexuals here are not making you the poster child for discrimination on a TS forum. In addition, you're certainly no Dr Martin Luther King OR Obama. You're a broken record. If you want to dwell on race, you're on the wrong forum. On here, as long as they have a cock and are girls, that's what the criteria is. They can be green, and somebody would jerk off. I mean, there's already a few "Black Tgirl only" threads. And the video in question was a black on black "crime". So can you drop it now, Al Sharpton? Good fucking LORD!

So now where are you off to? A gay Jewish forum? An Asian lesbian forum? Dumbass. :roll: For the last time, But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum. THIS MEANS YOU!!!!!! I see you havent changed. Watch what you say to me out that sewer filled mouth. Jersey aint that far from me.


"Personally, I hope someone turns that tape over to the police and they go looking to arrest that trannie."

Speaking of human sewage..when did you seep back in?
Nice to see you're a law and order kinda guy ..when it suits your purpose...but it's okay to maked thinly veiled physical threats against a girl.Punk-ass.

[Legend]

Being obnoxious is not a crime. Macing someone who poses no threat is a crime. Get a clue. I dare you to state what the woman did was legal.

I think the courts would have a good laugh at that video

So, Legend, are you saying that an adult has the right to mace a kid who is being obnoxious? Yes or no?

Depends on the situation, if you have some kid who is out of control and won't listen to any adult then mace is probably the best thing to subdo the monster without having to use real force.Now in that video i would have told that little kid to be quiet but i wouldn't have maced him but that little shit kept messing with her, so she did some parenting of her own.Bottomline, you don't mess with people you don't know, that goes for kids and adults.

[trish]

keepingitreal470 (yeah...right) yelps:
Watch what you say to me out that sewer filled mouth. Jersey aint that far from me.

Which backed up sewer did you just crawl out of you two bit squirt of sleazy slime?! Get your fucking threats off this board!!

[Dinand]

What was that, you big drama queen WOMAN? "He"? "Him"?
That 'thing' wasn't a woman, that's for sure!

[Dinand]

you don't mess with people you don't know, that goes for kids and adults.
Yeah and when you do idiots have the right to mace you right?

[Legend]

you don't mess with people you don't know, that goes for kids and adults.
Yeah and when you do idiots have the right to mace you right?

If you see a rattlesnake shake it's rattle at you, what the hell are you going to do stand there and keep messing with it?

You don't know what people are going through in their day to day life, i'm sure she didn't look at that monster as a kid because he was talking like a smartass adult.I'm sorry but the don't mess with anyone rule applies to everyone.

[Teydyn]

If you see a rattlesnake shake it's rattle at you, what the hell are you going to do stand there and keep messing with it?
Common sense is sadly not that common...

But there is quite a difference between understandable and acceptable behavior. Mace was over the top, not that much, but over.

[TsGiaX]

lol

[George Clooney]

lmao...

I really don't see much of a difference between the transvestite and the kid's mother. They look pretty much the same.

[Cubpocalypse]

For the last time, But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum. THIS MEANS YOU!!!!!! I see you havent changed. Watch what you say to me out that sewer filled mouth. Jersey aint that far from me.

Hey, if it isn't our old resident expert on human sewage, Echimandu. And of course, the reason why you're such an expert is that you're the biggest mound of human compost on the planet. So which one of your multiple personalities are you today? Did you just get released from jail recently? How many guys in the joint made you their bitch? I'm guessing you got passed around more than gonorrhea in there.

I think the reason why you're so pissy is that clip reminds you so much of your "upbringing". Too bad some random stranger didn't mace you in the face back then, you might actually have turned out into a useful member of society. So keep on keeping on Keepingitrealfaggy.

[luvsthetrannys]

pretty crappy mace took forever to kick in and the guy sitting right behind them just calmly walked out like nothing happened. should buy some pepper spray that would clear out the whole train

[Chaotic]

you don't mess with people you don't know, that goes for kids and adults.
Yeah and when you do idiots have the right to mace you right?

If you see a rattlesnake shake it's rattle at you, what the hell are you going to do stand there and keep messing with it?

You don't know what people are going through in their day to day life, i'm sure she didn't look at that monster as a kid because he was talking like a smartass adult.I'm sorry but the don't mess with anyone rule applies to everyone.

At least in the "rattlesnake" situation, you can predict what's going to happen if you keep fucking with it. Provoking a person like that , you just don't know WHAT they're gonna do! This could have escalated into something much worse than a simple macing.

A rather large and, let's be honest, unusual looking person steps onto a big city subway after dark, provoking them is probably a not a good idea. The kids in this sitch certainly looked big and old enough to know better.

The fact that they kept pushing anyway is a reflection of some very poor parenting, IMO. Some people just shouldn't have had kids in the first place! :smh

[NYTSJulie]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.My comments really were directed at Julie and not yourself. You didn't make the stupid ass statement, she did. But since you chimed in, let me give you one more reason you should never compare what blacks have gone thru to what gays have. We were born this way. We can't change our skin color. Transitioning is a choice. Say what you will but society will always see it as a choice. I've never seen a trannie hung in public, tarred and feathered, for their choice.

Ohh your a fucking fool, being transsexual is not a choice. Before your on the hunt for tranny cock I would think you would know a thing or two about them.

[NYTSJulie]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.

[NYTSJulie]

here is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yrw-J0rQkc

[keepingitreal470]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP. TAKEN SOMEWHERE THEY DIDNT WANT TO GO? A LOT OF THE SHIT YOU TYPED ABOVE IS A CHOICE. YOU SUCK DICK FOR MONEY. ITS YOUR CHOICE. YOU DONT WANT THAT KIND OF LIFE? YOU DONT WANT TO BE LOOKED AT AS A PERVERT? GO TO SCHOOL. GET A DEGREE. TRANNIES DO IT. SLAVES EDUCATED THEMSELVES AT THE RISK OF BEING SAVAGELY BEATEN. SO DONT GIVE ME THE EXCUSE ABOUT EVERYONE WILL STARE AT YOU AND CALL YOU NAMES IF YOU ENROLL IN SCHOOL. THERE ARE TRANNIES THAT LIVE MAINSTREAM LIVES. IT CAN BE DONE. ANYONE THAT REFUSES IS JUST MAKING EXCUSES AND LOOKING FOR FUCKING SYMPATHY. IM A BROTHA. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF WHAT YOU SAY, BUT SO WHAT. YOU DONT LIKE IT? ORGANIZE GROUPS TO TRY CHANGING THE WAY SOCIETY LOOKS AT YOU. BUT NO, YOU'LL CONTINUE SUCKING DICK FOR YOUR RENT AND CRYING VICTIM EVERYTIME A GAY PERSON IS VIOLATED. MACING A NON THREATINING 10 YR OLD IS SOMETHING YOU CONDONE. SO I SEE WHY YOU MAKE THE CHOICES IN LIFE THAT YOU DO. A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE PUT YOU AMONG THE DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKERS I'VE EVER COME ACROSS. SERIOUS.

[NYTSJulie]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP

Your so stupid you dont get it, you have no clue about transsexualism. Any how.....if you want to go back I will pay for your flight.

[NYTSJulie]

But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

"Subscribes" to what point of view? One you can't comprehend? Yeah, you're "keeping it real" alright. "Real" stupid. Great response, brainiac.

Now I KNOW that you think transitioning and being gay is like choosing an elective in college. I would never argue for a second that black people have not been persecuted and shit on, probably more than any other racial demographic in recorded history. But you seem to think that you can cloud the issue here and you can't. When any of us can be victimized over something superficial, we can ALL be victimized. But anyone who has a need to use a politician who won the election as their avatar is probably a knee-jerk moron. You're no better than Belial, who felt the need to hijack a thread with the opposing viewpoint to yours. No matter what, the trannies had to shit it up to satisfy BOTH of your retarded asses. Well, sorry if the transsexuals here are not making you the poster child for discrimination on a TS forum. In addition, you're certainly no Dr Martin Luther King OR Obama. You're a broken record. If you want to dwell on race, you're on the wrong forum. On here, as long as they have a cock and are girls, that's what the criteria is. They can be green, and somebody would jerk off. I mean, there's already a few "Black Tgirl only" threads. And the video in question was a black on black "crime". So can you drop it now, Al Sharpton? Good fucking LORD!

So now where are you off to? A gay Jewish forum? An Asian lesbian forum? Dumbass. :roll: For the last time, But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum. THIS MEANS YOU!!!!!! I see you havent changed. Watch what you say to me out that sewer filled mouth. Jersey aint that far from me.

Your a loud mother fucker, I think you should be banned, you threaten Nicole

[keepingitreal470]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP

Your so stupid you dont get it, you have no clue about transsexualism. Any how.....if you want to go back I will pay for your flight.You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

[NYTSJulie]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP

Your so stupid you dont get it, you have no clue about transsexualism. Any how.....if you want to go back I will pay for your flight.You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

I am not racist, I have fucked black men and even had a long relationship with one. I have many black friends and some white ones who think they are black to lol. Although I dont see black men as clients.

[blacktgirls]

You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

I am not racist, I have fucked black men and even had a long relationship with one. I have many black friends and some white ones who think they are black to lol. Although I dont see black men as clients.how do you no if the man calling you on the phone for the privilege of paying you a few hundred to suck your cock and maybe have you tap his ass is black ? do you listen to hear if " talks black " on the phone or if when he shows up and you open the door and he's black do you give him a , mace blindfold , and slam the door !

[AllanahStarrNYC]

But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum that subscribes to that point of view. Some shit just dont change.

"Subscribes" to what point of view? One you can't comprehend? Yeah, you're "keeping it real" alright. "Real" stupid. Great response, brainiac.

Now I KNOW that you think transitioning and being gay is like choosing an elective in college. I would never argue for a second that black people have not been persecuted and shit on, probably more than any other racial demographic in recorded history. But you seem to think that you can cloud the issue here and you can't. When any of us can be victimized over something superficial, we can ALL be victimized. But anyone who has a need to use a politician who won the election as their avatar is probably a knee-jerk moron. You're no better than Belial, who felt the need to hijack a thread with the opposing viewpoint to yours. No matter what, the trannies had to shit it up to satisfy BOTH of your retarded asses. Well, sorry if the transsexuals here are not making you the poster child for discrimination on a TS forum. In addition, you're certainly no Dr Martin Luther King OR Obama. You're a broken record. If you want to dwell on race, you're on the wrong forum. On here, as long as they have a cock and are girls, that's what the criteria is. They can be green, and somebody would jerk off. I mean, there's already a few "Black Tgirl only" threads. And the video in question was a black on black "crime". So can you drop it now, Al Sharpton? Good fucking LORD!

So now where are you off to? A gay Jewish forum? An Asian lesbian forum? Dumbass. :roll: For the last time, But I'm not surprised at some of the fucking human sewage on this forum. THIS MEANS YOU!!!!!! I see you havent changed. Watch what you say to me out that sewer filled mouth. Jersey aint that far from me.

Issuing internet threats? Classy.

[NYTSJulie]

LOL, god this is going all wrong. No I am not racist. The original post was to show struggles of trans women and why the tranny on the train acted in the manner she did. Black people had their struggles and to end the bullshit I will say their hardship was far worse than the gay, Jew or trans struggle, FAR WORSE. But, that was in the past and the trans struggle is still in the forefront and NO ONE can argue with the fact that TODAY not 1850, trans people face more discrimination. So please lets keep that the issue.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

You have got to be kidding with your ignorant and simplistic statements?

First, someone who is part of this community should very well know that transitioning is absolutely NOT a choice. By saying so, you are adding to the ignorant social stigma that exist by those who have no understanding of what this gender is, and I assume you have some sort of understanding\? I was born this way- I HAD NO CHOICE. If I had not done this I would most like be DEAD by now. I had absolutely no choice in the way that I was born- how effiminate I was and how I naturally acted like a girl and suffered dearly for it growing up. I have always acted and had the same manorisms since I can remember, I just simply chnaged the physical apperance to fit my actions, behavior, and mind.

Was it my choice to be taunted, bullied, and abused by other kids from the time I was five years old for being so feminine and living with that abuse until I was 16? NO

Was it my choice to have been beaten up by a gang when I was 18 for appearing to feminine? NO. I was beaten up, my skull cracked and was called a fag all the way through it. That is a HATE crime.

I was simply born a way that I could not hide or change, it's just who I am and trust me I have paid the price for it. I am a lucky one that I was able to transition which indeed has been a blessing as far I am much more happier but that does not mean that I still can't face discrimination and social stigma.

Are you really suggesting that violence towards transsexuals does not exists in our society today?

Maybe you have never seen a transseuxal woman hung in public, tarred and feather but I am sure you are very well aware that transsexuals are indeed STILL murdered (in public) sometimes as the case of Lateisha Green, was shot and killed by Dwight DeLee in Syracuse, NY in 2008 because she was a ts.

What about Leslie Mora, who was attacked by two men in Queens this summer as she was going home. They beat her with a belt right on the street as they called her 'faggot', left her bloody and cowering on the floor' until a car stopped and helped her.

What about Carmella Etienne who was simply walking on the street a few days later in Queens also ,when two men began to assault her throwing bottles and rocks at her? And when she threatened to call he police
"One of the two men responded, "The police don't care about you, they won't do anything to us," and began to pelt her with bottles. Another shouted at her, "Don't ever walk that block anymore or we will slash your throat."


As you can't change your skin color, I can't change my gender and who I am.

So please- as you are educated in the the history of the plight for equality of blacks in this country-you should become a little more educated on LGBT issues and what WE have gone through and go through still.

It's definitely not the same struggle, nor am I comparing it- BUT it is a struggle- LGBT people are one of the most marginalized groups in this country with lesser rights than any other citizens in this country.

Everything you've said is sadly true, and I feel for you as I do for ALL of my M2F sisters, Allanah. I might add that the number of LGBT people slaughtered by the Brown Shirts, the SS, the Nazis, etc is now thought to be actually much higher due to the fact much of it was unreported and the incidents were more isolated.

The men of color here, most of whom remain sheepishly anonymous, are trying to out-victimize us when they have relatively very little to bitch about within their own lifetimes. I'd even put forth the idea that somewhere today, hundreds-if-not-thousands of "male" children in this country alone have been either ostracized or bullied for being "fags", and have yet to even suspect that they might very-well actually be struggling with gender issues and not neccesarily their sexuality. Meanwhile, far more African American kids are being praised in today's social climate for their "street credibility" and being grandfathered in to "urban culture". That's the irony, unfortunately.

Let's be honest. Almost everyone with a dick gets a pat on the back for wanting to join the army, become a cop, acting "thug", or fist-fighting. But if you don't, you get reminded of how there's something "wrong with you" by a world filled with inhumane scumbags. People just love to tell you what your "problem is", when often they themselves are the real only problem.

I was humiliated, often ganged up on, and beaten throughout grade school. I had a large bottle thrown at my head at age 16 from a passing car as I walked alone in a gay neighborhood of Manhattan. I've had friends who've been beaten and raped, or were made to feel so badly that they simply destroyed themselves. I've had my life threatened on more than one occasion. I've been beaten, choked, and had a tooth bashed out of my face as an adult.

And at this point, I'm not getting clocked but it still never ends. I went to the hospital ER about 6 months ago, and heard a variety of improper comments. And forget about a job interview - all it takes is one background check on a SS# to be shot down for an "unofficial" reason.

Co-sign.

Some of the responses I read on here at times- i.e concerning our rights, issues (on several threads) how really objectified by some of these men, men that should be supporting us fully.

Misogony anyone?

[NYTSJulie]

You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

I am not racist, I have fucked black men and even had a long relationship with one. I have many black friends and some white ones who think they are black to lol. Although I dont see black men as clients.how do you no if the man calling you on the phone for the privilege of paying you a few hundred to suck your cock and maybe have you tap his ass is black ? do you listen to hear if " talks black " on the phone or if when he shows up and you open the door and he's black do you give him a , mace blindfold , and slam the door !

A lot of escorts don’t see black men; I know black escorts who won’t see black men. If a guy calls normal and sounds normal I will see him, and I have black clients I saw one yesterday a personal trainer who I see often. But if I get the phone call “yo ma, how you is, can I come thru”, that’s a red flag for me or any escort, because that’s street talk and when anyone talks street they often come with less then what was agreed upon and because they are street they try and hustle you. That’s why me and may girls don’t see black guys, a lot of girls wont point blank tell you they will just say I am not around or whatever, but that’s the truth.

[blacktgirls]

so NYTSJulie , how do you avoid black clients ?

[NYTSJulie]

so NYTSJulie , how do you avoid black clients ?

If someone sounds like the type of person i dont want to see I tell them sorry I am not the girl for you.

[blacktgirls]

so NYTSJulie , how do you avoid black clients ?

If someone sounds like the type of person i dont want to see I tell them sorry I am not the girl for you.what if the black guy sounds white on the phone ?

[NYTSJulie]

so NYTSJulie , how do you avoid black clients ?

If someone sounds like the type of person i dont want to see I tell them sorry I am not the girl for you.what if the black guy sounds white on the phone ?

then there is no problem, like i said i have some black clients, just like if a white guy calls and sounds all ghetto i wont see him either. as far as the photo, i would do the one on the far right, the other two can go to the tranny down the road lol.

[Felicia Katt]

All of you safe, closeted guys who are afraid to even put your city in your profile, let alone show your face here, out of some paranoid concern you might face some hypothetical adversity at some indeterminate time by some unknown persons have no basis commenting about how someone dealing with real shit in real life, in real time should or shouldn't feel or fear.

FK

[NYTSJulie]

All of you safe, closeted guys who are afraid to even put your city in your profile, let alone show your face here, out of some paranoid concern you might face some hypothetical adversity at some indeterminate time by some unknown persons have no basis commenting about how someone dealing with real shit in real life, in real time should or shouldn't feel or fear.

FK

co-sign.......hello

[blacktgirls]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP

Your so stupid you dont get it, you have no clue about transsexualism. Any how.....if you want to go back I will pay for your flight.You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

I am not racist, I have fucked black men and even had a long relationship with one. I have many black friends and some white ones who think they are black to lol. Although I dont see black men as clients. NYTSJulie , " Although I don't see black men as clients . "

[blacktgirls]

so NYTSJulie , how do you avoid black clients ?

If someone sounds like the type of person i dont want to see I tell them sorry I am not the girl for you.what if the black guy sounds white on the phone ?

then there is no problem, like i said i have some black clients, just like if a white guy calls and sounds all ghetto i wont see him either. as far as the photo, i would do the one on the far right, the other two can go to the tranny down the road lol.flip flopper

[AllanahStarrNYC]

All of you safe, closeted guys who are afraid to even put your city in your profile, let alone show your face here, out of some paranoid concern you might face some hypothetical adversity at some indeterminate time by some unknown persons have no basis commenting about how someone dealing with real shit in real life, in real time should or shouldn't feel or fear.

FK

As usual- The Best Ever

Perfectly SAID

[NYTSJulie]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP

Your so stupid you dont get it, you have no clue about transsexualism. Any how.....if you want to go back I will pay for your flight.You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

I am not racist, I have fucked black men and even had a long relationship with one. I have many black friends and some white ones who think they are black to lol. Although I dont see black men as clients. NYTSJulie , " Although I don't see black men as clients . "

ok, your too much....trying to quiz me and all, saying a am racist and whatever. I dated a mixed guy for a long time, do you want me to post his photo. He was normal, unlike you pulling the race card, I don’t see black guys because most I have experienced as clients I have had problems with, I didn’t start escorting last week and this is based on experience. If someone sounds normal on the phone and comes to my door and is black I will see them, but as a general rule based on poor past experience if I know they are black over the phone I won’t see them. Call me whatever the fuck you want to, it’s my game and my biz I make the mother fucking rules and what works for me and what has worked for me.

[Belial]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

[NYTSJulie]

I now know why i and many other stopped posting on here a long time ago

[Legend]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

Some of you guys in this thread are pathetic, i've seen more then one comment about transsexuals not being real women or refferring to a transsexual with a male pronoun just because they won't put up with a monster like that kid in the video, news flash go watch some videos on youtube and almost all of them including transgender, males, gg , teens,kids all agree that kid had it coming.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP

Your so stupid you dont get it, you have no clue about transsexualism. Any how.....if you want to go back I will pay for your flight.You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

I am not racist, I have fucked black men and even had a long relationship with one. I have many black friends and some white ones who think they are black to lol. Although I dont see black men as clients. NYTSJulie , " Although I don't see black men as clients . "

ok, your too much....trying to quiz me and all, saying a am racist and whatever. I dated a mixed guy for a long time, do you want me to post his photo. He was normal, unlike you pulling the race card, I don’t see black guys because most I have experienced as clients I have had problems with, I didn’t start escorting last week and this is based on experience. If someone sounds normal on the phone and comes to my door and is black I will see them, but as a general rule based on poor past experience if I know they are black over the phone I won’t see them. Call me whatever the fuck you want to, it’s my game and my biz I make the mother fucking rules and what works for me and what has worked for me.

Girl don't bother explaining yourself.
Just as the guys have a right to call whom they are attracted to and want
you have same tight to see who you want and who you don't want to see.
It's your body- and some people will never understand that.
They think just because your an escort your like a car dealership and you have to service everyone- wrong.

We all have prefferences.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

Some of you guys in this thread are pathetic, i've seen more then one comment about transsexuals not being real women or refferring to a transsexual with a male pronoun just because they won't put up with a monster like that kid in the video, news flash go watch some videos on youtube and almost all of them including transgender, males, gg , teens,kids all agree that kid had it coming.

Because so many of these guys tryly deep down inside really don't like us.
Better yet, they don't like themselves for liking us.

MISOGONY!

[Buhdook]

No matter how you slice it, violence begets violence. The tranny should have just walked away. That family of ignorant people was, well, ignorant. But answering them with violence only escalates things.

you cant condone this at all. That TS was way out of line assaulting a child, no matter how rude he or hi mother was. If a straight male had done this we would be calling for him to get ten years in jail.

Well even though your name is Lucy it’s obvious that you’re not a TS, you’re a straight cross dresser that has the mindset of a male. Any TS would understand how and why this tranny did what she did. All transsexuals have faced some kind of discrimination for being who they are in one form or another. Although I have never been called out like this I have been discriminated in other situations, all transsexuals have. I recently had a situation at the hospital, once I let it be know that I am a transsexual the whole tone changed. Think of a black person in the 40’s then times that by ten, people think we are creatures, things and its. We have no feelings and these people think it’s ok to publicly pick fun at this girl on the train. Thats why we try and pass, to avoid this, but some people cant pass. I give the tranny 2 thumbs up and if I was there I would have held her purse while she sprayed the son of bitches.

[tsntx]

i dont see what some of the ts's opinions of macing a kid is proof they could never be like real women when a good portion of the men are saying the same thing and not getting called out on it

i know where the girl in the vid was coming from and weve all been there where someone was harrassing us and embarassing us in front of strangers.... its not fun

her outfit is 2ndary to the topic and if she was going to the store or school would it matter.... shes not wearing anything most girls in this thread or girls you see at straight clubs are wearing... we dont know where she was going or coming from so her outfit doesnt make it ok to harrass or belittle her

her inflicting physical harm to an underage child is wrong.... flat out

[NYTSJulie]

[quote]The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.

Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.

Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.

Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.

Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC

I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.

I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.

While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.

This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.

Thank you, you said it better than I did lol.

for the others......I wasn’t trying compare and assumed people would understand what I was trying to say. It seems many of the girls here somewhat understand the point I was trying to make, so let me explain it better for the slower of the bunch.

We as transsexuals are not even seen as people we are seen as perverts. Most can’t find jobs, relationships and are disconnected from their family. They are forced to suck cocks and fuck fat old men in their dirty asses in order to eat. There is no community it’s all shade most of the time. This can vary from girl to girl but this is the situation for most, and I bet this is the situation for the girl on the train.

Someone said something about picking cotton, I doubt that tranny on the train could even get a job doing that. Blacks in 1850 were able to find strength in their community, transsexuals in 2009 can’t find that. Blacks in 1850 married and had children; in 2009 transsexuals seldom have that.

I am not trying to make a comparison, all minorities have had their struggles and the hate endured was parallel, but the one thing that separates us from many minorities is the simple things in life, love, relationships, family and community…..many of us don’t have those things, but the blacks, Jews and other minorities did. Complied with all that we have a disconnect in gender, and the inner turmoil is something that cannot be explained in words. It is a given for most people and something they don’t even think about.

Truth is many transsexuals live lonely unhappy lives and die from hate crimes, suicide and some from aids.HEY DUMBASS, WERE TRANNIES EVER ENSLAVED? WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THROWN ON A SHIP

Your so stupid you dont get it, you have no clue about transsexualism. Any how.....if you want to go back I will pay for your flight.You know, I've read your posts for a couple of years now. I firmly believe you are racist. I dont care what you say to refute that. I believe it and always will.

I am not racist, I have fucked black men and even had a long relationship with one. I have many black friends and some white ones who think they are black to lol. Although I dont see black men as clients. NYTSJulie , " Although I don't see black men as clients . "

ok, your too much....trying to quiz me and all, saying a am racist and whatever. I dated a mixed guy for a long time, do you want me to post his photo. He was normal, unlike you pulling the race card, I don’t see black guys because most I have experienced as clients I have had problems with, I didn’t start escorting last week and this is based on experience. If someone sounds normal on the phone and comes to my door and is black I will see them, but as a general rule based on poor past experience if I know they are black over the phone I won’t see them. Call me whatever the fuck you want to, it’s my game and my biz I make the mother fucking rules and what works for me and what has worked for me.

Girl don't bother explaining yourself.
Just as the guys have a right to call whom they are attracted to and want
you have same tight to see who you want and who you don't want to see.
It's your body- and some people will never understand that.
They think just because your an escort your like a car dealership and you have to service everyone- wrong.

We all have prefferences.[/quote:f99905bf67]

girl I know, I get heated.....I was tired earlier and had 4 shots of espresso, it kicked in and I was ready to kick ass lol.

[NYTSJulie]

Better yet, they don't like themselves for liking us.



this is so true

[yodajazz]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.]
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

It has nothing to do with a person being male or female. It's about the persons values. I have to question your intelligence on this. Two parties were in the wrong. That fact that a person focuses on one the two wrongs does not mean they approve of the other wrong. And so what Julie has a right to her opinion. Last I heard both males and females have a right to have an opinion.

Asshole, is about the nicest word I can think of you. But I have lots of others. Your post was a waste of bold type.

[NYTSJulie]

I generaly dont think it was right for her to mace the child, but I am happy that she stood up for herself, many TS girls who are outted put their tail between their legs and bow their heads in shame, and I am glad she said hell no i am not the one.

The issuse was with the mother and that is who she should of maced.

Parents are responsible for their children; I probably would have gone for the mother instead of the kid. I remember about 5 yrs ago I was at the movie theater and this little kid behind me kept kicking my chair, I asked the mother 4 times for the kid to stop. The 5th time I turned around and said “the next time your kid kicks my chair I am going to kick you”, anyways she knew I was pissed and didn’t say a word back and moved his seat. My issue was with her not minding her child, not the child because he knew no better. Like the kids on the train, they knew no better because of how that mother raised them.

[yodajazz]

And for the record Keepingitreal, I see you as being on one side of the argument about mistreatment, and I see Allanah Starr and Jesus Chirst, as being on the other side. Just for the record, I'm going to have to side with Allanah and Jesus.

Did you just earlier make a threat to someone? Talk about violence begetting violence. The damn video has even rubbed off on you. That's how stupid those people's behavior was.

[2009AD]

Let's see what California State Law says about using mace/pepper spray:

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment..."

[keepingitreal470]

And for the record Keepingitreal, I see you as being on one side of the argument about mistreatment, and I see Allanah Starr and Jesus Chirst, as being on the other side. Just for the record, I'm going to have to side with Allanah and Jesus.

Did you just earlier make a threat to someone? Talk about violence begetting violence. The damn video has even rubbed off on you. That's how stupid those people's behavior was.Call it what you want, but I remember Nicole from before and I refuse to allow him/her to talk to me like she does most others. I won't stand for it. I'm the one who said the trannie should be arrested. Those who don't see this are pretty sick in the head. These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

[LittleGuy]

dont worry she will be in jail.

[keepingitreal470]

Let's see what California State Law says about using mace/pepper spray:

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment..."I KNEW WHAT I WITNESSED WAS A CRIME!!!!!! I KNEW IT.

[scroller]

I was just thinking the other day how much more tolerable this board has been without some of the psycho posters around, then they pop up again all at once.

HA insufficiently welcoming to self-avowed racists and child abusers, imagine that.

[SarahG]

Let's see what California State Law says about using mace/pepper spray:

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment..."

They would probably also get her for endangering the welfare of a child (and probably two counts).

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hara thank you for having some common sense.

You're welcome. I see this thread reached 16 pages of nonsense.


These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

Hey! NOT every trannie are that socially challenged, baby. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

Some of you guys in this thread are pathetic, i've seen more then one comment about transsexuals not being real women or refferring to a transsexual with a male pronoun just because they won't put up with a monster like that kid in the video, news flash go watch some videos on youtube and almost all of them including transgender, males, gg , teens,kids all agree that kid had it coming.

... and those people are sick too. Just because a few people agree with you about something, that doesn't make any of you right. Not to mention that YouTube can often be the Hate Central of the internet. Agreeing with those people CERTAINLY doesn't make you right.

And NOBODY should physically assault a child FOR ANY REASON. The attitudes here to the contrary only prove one thing - so many of you DON'T have children and SHOULDN'T have them. If I were that mom I'd punish the kid myself (not mace him, lol), but if I were that tranny (and I use that word because THAT bitch was a STRAIGHT UP TRANNY) I'd just ignore him.

Of course it's hard to do that when you look like a barrel of Guiness with legs wearing a hot pink shower curtain and you know that everybody on the train agrees with the big-mouthed kid! Let's talk about THAT.

Some people here truly disgust me, especially those who claim that any transwoman who agrees with my assessment (and there are plenty here) is a crossdresser. You want tolerance for the freakish, thin-skinned, child-macing piece of shit, but you want to slam transwomen here who have proven their sincerity simply because they disagree with you. SHADE. We all know what happened last time somebody tried that around here, don't we?

The fact is that many of us are of that opinion because we know how to blend and truth be told, something like that would never happen to us. 'Crossdressers' my ass.

~BB~

[keepingitreal470]

Hara thank you for having some common sense.

You're welcome. I see this thread reached 16 pages of nonsense.


These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

Hey! NOT every trannie are that socially challenged, baby. ;)

~Kisses.

HTGI'm sorry Hara. Over the years you have always been different than the norm around here. And I appreciate that. Hara, I would go out on a date with you. I mean a real date. I can't say that about the rest here. But you've always had my respect. And we like some of the same sexual things. lol I hope you never change Hara. Stay just the way you are. I just dropped in after being away for almost a year. And I really dont plan on being around much, but Hara, send me a pm. I'd like to give you other ways to find me if you so desire.

[arnie666]

Yeah I can just imagine the reaction if I posted a video of me spraying some little kid with mace because he called me names. I'd expect a visit from the Police quite soon. Yeah there are some right cunts in life like this mother who can't keep her kids mouth and her own mouth shut but is there any need for the t-girl to start assaulting people?

I would say if a tranny did that to my kid , it would be a race between myself and the Police as to who found her first but no kid of mine would act like that kid.But still that doens't give the tranny the right to hurt him. Mace and such should be used for self defence not for getting respect. You think she will get any more respect in prison?

To the trannies who are condoning this behaviour, don't expect equal treatment in society if you believe you are 'special cases'.To any guys condoning this stop arselicking you fucking virgins.

[EyeCumInPiece]

haha. good 4 that lil fuck

[Nicole Dupre]

Hara thank you for having some common sense.

You're welcome. I see this thread reached 16 pages of nonsense.


These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

Hey! NOT every trannie are that socially challenged, baby. ;)

~Kisses.

HTGI'm sorry Hara. Over the years you have always been different than the norm around here. And I appreciate that. Hara, I would go out on a date with you. I mean a real date. I can't say that about the rest here. But you've always had my respect. And we like some of the same sexual things. lol I hope you never change Hara. Stay just the way you are. I just dropped in after being away for almost a year. And I really dont plan on being around much, but Hara, send me a pm. I'd like to give you other ways to find me if you so desire.

Well, that makes sense. You don't think enough of actual transsexuals anyway, so you're settling for this raggedy-ass bald boy who just started hormones last week. Uh huh. You two deserve each other, like true love in cellblock 9. Just make sure he cleans that fecal matter from under his fingernails and gets his ghetto beauty supply wig cleaned. He's a diaper changer by day, tending to old folks' hemorrhoids. How's that for "keeping it real", you dickbreath bitch?

As for your threats, you come correct to me or you WILL get fucked up, you faggoty ass white-hating racist cocksucker. I don't play. So call up some cops. Pick a borrough, pick a NJ county or trooper barrack, or contact the fucking PA, PLEASE! I'm related to PLENTY of high-ranking ones on both sides of the Hudson.

Would I mace that little fuck. Hell no! Not me. I don't need the hassle. But am I glad he got maced? YES! I'm lmmfao at it! Fat-boy will live. Trust me, Al Sharpton. He was chowing down asap afterwards.

But what kind of dumbass kid starts taunting an adult, acting all brave, only because his bitch-ass whore mama's chillaxin' with him on the train? Ummmm... Answer?!? Hello?! A SCUMBAG! Just like the scum you are, Echi-FAG-du. Now go kiss your new monkey-faced BF, you gay bitch. :twisted:

[Belial]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

Some of you guys in this thread are pathetic, i've seen more then one comment about transsexuals not being real women or refferring to a transsexual with a male pronoun just because they won't put up with a monster like that kid in the video, news flash go watch some videos on youtube and almost all of them including transgender, males, gg , teens,kids all agree that kid had it coming.

1) Most GGs who comment on utube are just dumb-ass kids. I was referring to mature women who don't still live with their parents, that wouldn't condone it. (Usually over 15)

2) The only monster in this video was that linebacker in a wig. Hopefully someone will turn that video, and any other helpful info, in to the authorities. His shower curtain wearing ass should be arrested, and taken off the streets, ASAP. Maybe if he made an effort to not look and act like a spectacle, he wouldn't be treated like one.

3) The tranny boot-lickers in this thread, (like u) have Zero credibility on this issue. That dude could kill somebody, and u'd still be here, blaming the victim. :smh

[yodajazz]

And for the record Keepingitreal, I see you as being on one side of the argument about mistreatment, and I see Allanah Starr and Jesus Chirst, as being on the other side. Just for the record, I'm going to have to side with Allanah and Jesus.

Did you just earlier make a threat to someone? Talk about violence begetting violence. The damn video has even rubbed off on you. That's how stupid those people's behavior was.Call it what you want, but I remember Nicole from before and I refuse to allow him/her to talk to me like she does most others. I won't stand for it. I'm the one who said the trannie should be arrested. Those who don't see this are pretty sick in the head. These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

So why did you not do like some people here advised the woman on the train: Go away without responding. See is not that easy, and she was reported to be a crackhead, implying impaired judgment. No one is really saying that she was completely right to do what she did, or that she could not be arrested. Many of us just also question the wisdom of letting your child taunt someone of impaired judgment. And being in a public place increases the possibility that the insulted person will react emotionally.

Also, if you have a problem with Nicole why blame all transexuals. I doubt that no one here would not argue that she is not a unique person, not the represention of all transgender women.

[Nicole Dupre]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

Some of you guys in this thread are pathetic, i've seen more then one comment about transsexuals not being real women or refferring to a transsexual with a male pronoun just because they won't put up with a monster like that kid in the video, news flash go watch some videos on youtube and almost all of them including transgender, males, gg , teens,kids all agree that kid had it coming.

1) Most GGs who comment on utube are just dumb-ass kids. I was referring to mature women who don't still live with their parents, that wouldn't condone it. (Usually over 15)

2) The only monster in this video was that linebacker in a wig. Hopefully someone will turn that video, and any other helpful info, in to the authorities. His shower curtain wearing ass should be arrested, and taken off the streets, ASAP. Maybe if he made an effort to not look and act like a spectacle, he wouldn't be treated like one.

3) The tranny boot-lickers in this thread, (like u) have Zero credibility on this issue. That dude could kill somebody, and u'd still be here, blaming the victim. :smh

Oh, boy. Another mental midget is here.

You know I have cursed your dumb ass, right? Careful where you step, dummy.

[keepingitreal470]

Hara thank you for having some common sense.

You're welcome. I see this thread reached 16 pages of nonsense.


These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

Hey! NOT every trannie are that socially challenged, baby. ;)

~Kisses.

HTGI'm sorry Hara. Over the years you have always been different than the norm around here. And I appreciate that. Hara, I would go out on a date with you. I mean a real date. I can't say that about the rest here. But you've always had my respect. And we like some of the same sexual things. lol I hope you never change Hara. Stay just the way you are. I just dropped in after being away for almost a year. And I really dont plan on being around much, but Hara, send me a pm. I'd like to give you other ways to find me if you so desire.

Well, that makes sense. You don't think enough of actual transsexuals anyway, so you're settling for this raggedy-ass bald boy who just started hormones last week. Uh huh. You two deserve each other, like true love in cellblock 9. Just make sure he cleans that fecal matter from under his fingernails and gets his ghetto beauty supply wig cleaned. He's a diaper changer by day, tending to old folks' hemorrhoids. How's that for "keeping it real", you dickbreath bitch?

As for your threats, you come correct to me or you WILL get fucked up, you faggoty ass white-hating racist cocksucker. I don't play. So call up some cops. Pick a borrough, pick a NJ county or trooper barrack, or contact the fucking PA, PLEASE! I'm related to PLENTY of high-ranking ones on both sides of the Hudson.

Would I mace that little fuck. Hell no! Not me. I don't need the hassle. But am I glad he got maced? YES! I'm lmmfao at it! Fat-boy will live. Trust me, Al Sharpton. He was chowing down asap afterwards.

But what kind of dumbass kid starts taunting an adult, acting all brave, only because his bitch-ass whore mama's chillaxin' with him on the train? Ummmm... Answer?!? Hello?! A SCUMBAG! Just like the scum you are, Echi-FAG-du. Now go kiss your new monkey-faced BF, you gay bitch. :twisted:I know people are all over Jersey u fuckin clown ass side show trannie. They do magic tricks. Like make motherfuckers like u dissapear. Keep running that sewer filled mouth.

[Nicole Dupre]

And for the record Keepingitreal, I see you as being on one side of the argument about mistreatment, and I see Allanah Starr and Jesus Chirst, as being on the other side. Just for the record, I'm going to have to side with Allanah and Jesus.

Did you just earlier make a threat to someone? Talk about violence begetting violence. The damn video has even rubbed off on you. That's how stupid those people's behavior was.Call it what you want, but I remember Nicole from before and I refuse to allow him/her to talk to me like she does most others. I won't stand for it. I'm the one who said the trannie should be arrested. Those who don't see this are pretty sick in the head. These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

So why did you not do like some people here advised the woman on the train: Go away without responding. See is not that easy, and she was reported to be a crackhead, implying impaired judgment. No one is really saying that she was completely right to do what she did, or that she could not be arrested. Many of us just also question the wisdom of letting your child taunt someone of impaired judgment. And being in a public place increases the possibility that the insulted person will react emotionally.

Also, if you have a problem with Nicole why blame all transexuals. I doubt that no one here would not argue that she is not a unique person, not the represention of all transgender women.

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

[Nicole Dupre]

Hara thank you for having some common sense.

You're welcome. I see this thread reached 16 pages of nonsense.


These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

Hey! NOT every trannie are that socially challenged, baby. ;)

~Kisses.

HTGI'm sorry Hara. Over the years you have always been different than the norm around here. And I appreciate that. Hara, I would go out on a date with you. I mean a real date. I can't say that about the rest here. But you've always had my respect. And we like some of the same sexual things. lol I hope you never change Hara. Stay just the way you are. I just dropped in after being away for almost a year. And I really dont plan on being around much, but Hara, send me a pm. I'd like to give you other ways to find me if you so desire.

Well, that makes sense. You don't think enough of actual transsexuals anyway, so you're settling for this raggedy-ass bald boy who just started hormones last week. Uh huh. You two deserve each other, like true love in cellblock 9. Just make sure he cleans that fecal matter from under his fingernails and gets his ghetto beauty supply wig cleaned. He's a diaper changer by day, tending to old folks' hemorrhoids. How's that for "keeping it real", you dickbreath bitch?

As for your threats, you come correct to me or you WILL get fucked up, you faggoty ass white-hating racist cocksucker. I don't play. So call up some cops. Pick a borrough, pick a NJ county or trooper barrack, or contact the fucking PA, PLEASE! I'm related to PLENTY of high-ranking ones on both sides of the Hudson.

Would I mace that little fuck. Hell no! Not me. I don't need the hassle. But am I glad he got maced? YES! I'm lmmfao at it! Fat-boy will live. Trust me, Al Sharpton. He was chowing down asap afterwards.

But what kind of dumbass kid starts taunting an adult, acting all brave, only because his bitch-ass whore mama's chillaxin' with him on the train? Ummmm... Answer?!? Hello?! A SCUMBAG! Just like the scum you are, Echi-FAG-du. Now go kiss your new monkey-faced BF, you gay bitch. :twisted:I know people are all over Jersey u fuckin clown ass side show trannie. They do magic tricks. Like make motherfuckers like u dissapear. Keep running that sewer filled mouth.LOL. Actually, they're my blood too. ;) Trust me, we keep it ALL in the family. Like I said, pick a place, bitch. It's all good. :twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhFeZZflUj4

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hara thank you for having some common sense.

You're welcome. I see this thread reached 16 pages of nonsense.


These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

Hey! NOT every trannie are that socially challenged, baby. ;)

~Kisses.

HTGI'm sorry Hara. Over the years you have always been different than the norm around here. And I appreciate that. Hara, I would go out on a date with you. I mean a real date. I can't say that about the rest here. But you've always had my respect. And we like some of the same sexual things. lol I hope you never change Hara. Stay just the way you are. I just dropped in after being away for almost a year. And I really dont plan on being around much, but Hara, send me a pm. I'd like to give you other ways to find me if you so desire.

Well, that makes sense. You don't think enough of actual transsexuals anyway, so you're settling for this raggedy-ass bald boy who just started hormones last week.

Excuse me, but I've transitioned earlier than you, as in took hormones at 14 and did that for 8 years straight then on and off after that. While you my sicilian, small dicked hater only transitioned some 3-4 years ago and have been living as a trannie? for 3 years! Gimme a break. :roll:

I may not have double D's to my chest to convince myself (and my psyche) and others that I am INDEED a transexual - Unlike yourself! Sadly though, you STILL get clocked a mile away amidst thee double D's you're sporting. What a Joker you are! :lol:


You two deserve each other, like true love in cellblock 9. Just make sure he cleans that fecal matter from under his fingernails and gets his ghetto beauty supply wig cleaned. He's a diaper changer by day, tending to old folks' hemorrhoids. How's that for "keeping it real", you dickbreath bitch?

Just because someone was agreeing with me doesn't give you or anyone the right to hate them and drag me (and insult what I do in the process) into your arguments with him. At least, I'm doing something dignified which I like and enjoy as opposed to fucking every guy I don't know nor care about to make rent, have food to eat, get gas for the car etc.! You're really PATHETIC, to throw insults without looking at what you do and how you look in the mirror!

~Kisses.

HTG

[yodajazz]

This thread proves why 95% of trannies will never be women.
No REAL WOMAN that I ever met, would condone a non threatening child being maced.

There's some sick individuals in this thread. :smh

Some of you guys in this thread are pathetic, i've seen more then one comment about transsexuals not being real women or refferring to a transsexual with a male pronoun just because they won't put up with a monster like that kid in the video, news flash go watch some videos on youtube and almost all of them including transgender, males, gg , teens,kids all agree that kid had it coming.

1) Most GGs who comment on utube are just dumb-ass kids. I was referring to mature women who don't still live with their parents, that wouldn't condone it. (Usually over 15)

2) The only monster in this video was that linebacker in a wig. Hopefully someone will turn that video, and any other helpful info, in to the authorities. His shower curtain wearing ass should be arrested, and taken off the streets, ASAP. Maybe if he made an effort to not look and act like a spectacle, he wouldn't be treated like one.

3) The tranny boot-lickers in this thread, (like u) have Zero credibility on this issue. That dude could kill somebody, and u'd still be here, blaming the victim. :smh

Oh, boy. Another mental midget is here.

You know I have cursed your dumb ass, right? Careful where you step, dummy.
No need to curse him, he's already cursed himself. He thinks the millions of people that participate on on youtube are "dumb assed kids".

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

[2009AD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txRaSrGdjc8&feature=related

California State Law

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment...

[sdman]

lol crazy thread

[Silcc69]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txRaSrGdjc8&feature=related

California State Law

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person* who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment...

*Doesn't apply to the police.

[NYTSJulie]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

[NYTSJulie]

Hara thank you for having some common sense.

You're welcome. I see this thread reached 16 pages of nonsense.


These are some of the reasons I've been into GG's more and plan to continue that. Who the fuck wants to grow old with someone as socially challenged like a trannie.

Hey! NOT every trannie are that socially challenged, baby. ;)

~Kisses.

HTGI'm sorry Hara. Over the years you have always been different than the norm around here. And I appreciate that. Hara, I would go out on a date with you. I mean a real date. I can't say that about the rest here. But you've always had my respect. And we like some of the same sexual things. lol I hope you never change Hara. Stay just the way you are. I just dropped in after being away for almost a year. And I really dont plan on being around much, but Hara, send me a pm. I'd like to give you other ways to find me if you so desire.

Well, that makes sense. You don't think enough of actual transsexuals anyway, so you're settling for this raggedy-ass bald boy who just started hormones last week. Uh huh. You two deserve each other, like true love in cellblock 9. Just make sure he cleans that fecal matter from under his fingernails and gets his ghetto beauty supply wig cleaned. He's a diaper changer by day, tending to old folks' hemorrhoids. How's that for "keeping it real", you dickbreath bitch?

As for your threats, you come correct to me or you WILL get fucked up, you faggoty ass white-hating racist cocksucker. I don't play. So call up some cops. Pick a borrough, pick a NJ county or trooper barrack, or contact the fucking PA, PLEASE! I'm related to PLENTY of high-ranking ones on both sides of the Hudson.

Would I mace that little fuck. Hell no! Not me. I don't need the hassle. But am I glad he got maced? YES! I'm lmmfao at it! Fat-boy will live. Trust me, Al Sharpton. He was chowing down asap afterwards.

But what kind of dumbass kid starts taunting an adult, acting all brave, only because his bitch-ass whore mama's chillaxin' with him on the train? Ummmm... Answer?!? Hello?! A SCUMBAG! Just like the scum you are, Echi-FAG-du. Now go kiss your new monkey-faced BF, you gay bitch. :twisted:I know people are all over Jersey u fuckin clown ass side show trannie. They do magic tricks. Like make motherfuckers like u dissapear. Keep running that sewer filled mouth.LOL. Actually, they're my blood too. ;) Trust me, we keep it ALL in the family. Like I said, pick a place, bitch. It's all good. :twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhFeZZflUj4

Girl I got your back, watch Barbie turn into Ken in 2 seconds.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

[2009AD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txRaSrGdjc8&feature=related

California State Law

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person* who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment...

*Doesn't apply to the police.

Yea, so what's your point? The person in pink is not a police officer and therefore in violation of California law. :roll:

[NYTSJulie]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

[Silcc69]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txRaSrGdjc8&feature=related

California State Law

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person* who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment...

*Doesn't apply to the police.

Yea, so what's your point? The person in pink is not a police officer and therefore in violation of California law. :roll:

I can't be funny?

[NYTSJulie]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

I am of Filipino-Chinese and Spanish descent. How about you? About Cannon Falls, we'll it was serious. And he paid for all the cab fares which was about $50-60 bucks one way ('bout an hour give or take on the freeway). I've dated guys from all over MN - Minnetonka, Brainerd, Apple Valley, Redwing etc. :lol:

I don't remember the name of the salon since it's been over 10 years already.. but I remember Aveda cos we all go there to get shampoo's, conditioner and other spritz! lol Must be John English and my stylist was a hot gay guy named Troy. ;) I *think I've heard of Mark, Is he heavy set black guy? I remembered him trying to recruit me to escort back then. But I wasn't really keen on doing that. Besides, from what the black girls told me..he takes too much money from the girls..so it was a NO GO deal for me. Plus I wasn't really OUT as a trannie, I lived and worked in stealth as a girl.

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[2009AD]

my bad, sorry man.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txRaSrGdjc8&feature=related

California State Law

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12401.php

CHAPTER 4. TEAR GAS WEAPONS
ARTICLE 1. GENERAL PROVISIONS

12403.7. (g) Any person* who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment...

*Doesn't apply to the police.

Yea, so what's your point? The person in pink is not a police officer and therefore in violation of California law. :roll:

I can't be funny?

[NYTSJulie]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

I am of Filipino-Chinese and Spanish descent. How about you? About Cannon Falls, we'll it was serious. And he paid for all the cab fares which was about $50-60 bucks one way ('bout an hour give or take on the freeway). I've dated guys from all over MN - Minnetonka, Brainerd, Apple Valley, Redwing etc. :lol:

I don't remember the name of the salon since it's been over 10 years already.. but I remember Aveda cos we all go there to get shampoo's, conditioner and other spritz! lol Must be John English and my stylist was a hot gay guy named Troy. ;) I *think I've heard of Mark, Is he heavy set black guy? I remembered him trying to recruit me to escort back then. But I wasn't really keen on doing that. Besides, from what the black girls told me..he takes too much money from the girls..so it was a NO GO deal for me. Plus I wasn't really OUT as a trannie, I lived and worked in stealth as a girl.

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OH? Based on your other posts I thought you werent fulltime?

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

I am of Filipino-Chinese and Spanish descent. How about you? About Cannon Falls, we'll it was serious. And he paid for all the cab fares which was about $50-60 bucks one way ('bout an hour give or take on the freeway). I've dated guys from all over MN - Minnetonka, Brainerd, Apple Valley, Redwing etc. :lol:

I don't remember the name of the salon since it's been over 10 years already.. but I remember Aveda cos we all go there to get shampoo's, conditioner and other spritz! lol Must be John English and my stylist was a hot gay guy named Troy. ;) I *think I've heard of Mark, Is he heavy set black guy? I remembered him trying to recruit me to escort back then. But I wasn't really keen on doing that. Besides, from what the black girls told me..he takes too much money from the girls..so it was a NO GO deal for me. Plus I wasn't really OUT as a trannie, I lived and worked in stealth as a girl. You can go ahead and re-read my post and where I said or insinuated I wasn't full time?

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OH? Based on your other posts I thought you werent fulltime?

lol Shade. THATS what some latent tranny fag (whom you also talk to) wants everyone to think. I think he wants me to join him being a latent convert. Pay no attention to the black propaganda he is trying to spread. I actually went full time at 18 (when I was a junior in college). Maybe he's jealous not being able to? lol You can re-read my post where I clearly stated and or insinuated I wasn't full time? Never said that, HE did! ;)

Besides, how does a tranny fare if guys she dated knew she has a dick back in '95-00 and in conservative MN? One of my tgirl friends almost got a cigarette put out on her face! lol Which brings the question, IF I wasn't fulltime and didn't pass I wouldn't be able to date and fool around with straight guys. ;) And yes, in case some people are wondering, the guy from Cannon Falls knew my T before we even started dating. Reason why we dated because he doesn't care!

~Kisses.

HTG

[NYTSJulie]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

I am of Filipino-Chinese and Spanish descent. How about you? About Cannon Falls, we'll it was serious. And he paid for all the cab fares which was about $50-60 bucks one way ('bout an hour give or take on the freeway). I've dated guys from all over MN - Minnetonka, Brainerd, Apple Valley, Redwing etc. :lol:

I don't remember the name of the salon since it's been over 10 years already.. but I remember Aveda cos we all go there to get shampoo's, conditioner and other spritz! lol Must be John English and my stylist was a hot gay guy named Troy. ;) I *think I've heard of Mark, Is he heavy set black guy? I remembered him trying to recruit me to escort back then. But I wasn't really keen on doing that. Besides, from what the black girls told me..he takes too much money from the girls..so it was a NO GO deal for me. Plus I wasn't really OUT as a trannie, I lived and worked in stealth as a girl. You can go ahead and re-read my post and where I said or insinuated I wasn't full time?

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OH? Based on your other posts I thought you werent fulltime?

lol THATS what some latent tranny fag (whom you also talk to) wants everyone to think. I think he wants me to join him being a latent convert. Pay no attention to the black propaganda he is trying to spread. I actually went full time at 18 (when I was a junior in college). Maybe he's jealous not being able to? lol You can re-read my post where I clearly stated and or insinuated I wasn't full time? Never said that, HE did! ;)

Besides, how does a tranny fare if guys she dated knew she has a dick back in '95-00 and in conservative MN? One of my tgirl friends almost got a cigarette put out on her face! lol Which brings the question, IF I wasn't fulltime and didn't pass I wouldn't be able to date and fool around with straight guys. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

I thought back then you werent fulltime, I dont know where just thought I heard that somewhere. Then saying uptown was GLBT friendly. Did you look different back then, or same look, how did you get by with a hair peice if you were kissing them and stuff? Not throwing shade, just thought you werent stealth?

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

[quote:33d06ba020="Nicole Dupre"]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

I am of Filipino-Chinese and Spanish descent. How about you? About Cannon Falls, we'll it was serious. And he paid for all the cab fares which was about $50-60 bucks one way ('bout an hour give or take on the freeway). I've dated guys from all over MN - Minnetonka, Brainerd, Apple Valley, Redwing etc. :lol:

I don't remember the name of the salon since it's been over 10 years already.. but I remember Aveda cos we all go there to get shampoo's, conditioner and other spritz! lol Must be John English and my stylist was a hot gay guy named Troy. ;) I *think I've heard of Mark, Is he heavy set black guy? I remembered him trying to recruit me to escort back then. But I wasn't really keen on doing that. Besides, from what the black girls told me..he takes too much money from the girls..so it was a NO GO deal for me. Plus I wasn't really OUT as a trannie, I lived and worked in stealth as a girl. You can go ahead and re-read my post and where I said or insinuated I wasn't full time?

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OH? Based on your other posts I thought you werent fulltime?

lol THATS what some latent tranny fag (whom you also talk to) wants everyone to think. I think he wants me to join him being a latent convert. Pay no attention to the black propaganda he is trying to spread. I actually went full time at 18 (when I was a junior in college). Maybe he's jealous not being able to? lol You can re-read my post where I clearly stated and or insinuated I wasn't full time? Never said that, HE did! ;)

Besides, how does a tranny fare if guys she dated knew she has a dick back in '95-00 and in conservative MN? One of my tgirl friends almost got a cigarette put out on her face! lol Which brings the question, IF I wasn't fulltime and didn't pass I wouldn't be able to date and fool around with straight guys. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

I thought back then you werent fulltime, I dont know where just thought I heard that somewhere. Then saying uptown was GLBT friendly. Did you look different back then, or same look, how did you get by with a hair peice if you were kissing them and stuff? Not throwing shade, just thought you werent stealth?[/quote:33d06ba020]

Girl, I dunno where you get your news? lol My hair is real. Guys can pull on it fine! It's not a synthetic pony like someone had bought from riteaid. :lol: I only mentioned it was glbt friendly because THATS where my t-friends wanted to go. And just because some of them doesn't really pass in broad daylight..They're still my friends regardless. I'm NOT that shallow of a friend. Another thing, what is wrong in going to glbt friendly places? The 90's, Brass Rail, Calhoun Square etc. has a lot of straight men and women crowd.

~Kisses.

HTG

[NYTSJulie]

[quote:7f1fcbff8f="Hara_Juku Tgirl"][quote:7f1fcbff8f="Nicole Dupre"]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

I am of Filipino-Chinese and Spanish descent. How about you? About Cannon Falls, we'll it was serious. And he paid for all the cab fares which was about $50-60 bucks one way ('bout an hour give or take on the freeway). I've dated guys from all over MN - Minnetonka, Brainerd, Apple Valley, Redwing etc. :lol:

I don't remember the name of the salon since it's been over 10 years already.. but I remember Aveda cos we all go there to get shampoo's, conditioner and other spritz! lol Must be John English and my stylist was a hot gay guy named Troy. ;) I *think I've heard of Mark, Is he heavy set black guy? I remembered him trying to recruit me to escort back then. But I wasn't really keen on doing that. Besides, from what the black girls told me..he takes too much money from the girls..so it was a NO GO deal for me. Plus I wasn't really OUT as a trannie, I lived and worked in stealth as a girl. You can go ahead and re-read my post and where I said or insinuated I wasn't full time?

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OH? Based on your other posts I thought you werent fulltime?

lol THATS what some latent tranny fag (whom you also talk to) wants everyone to think. I think he wants me to join him being a latent convert. Pay no attention to the black propaganda he is trying to spread. I actually went full time at 18 (when I was a junior in college). Maybe he's jealous not being able to? lol You can re-read my post where I clearly stated and or insinuated I wasn't full time? Never said that, HE did! ;)

Besides, how does a tranny fare if guys she dated knew she has a dick back in '95-00 and in conservative MN? One of my tgirl friends almost got a cigarette put out on her face! lol Which brings the question, IF I wasn't fulltime and didn't pass I wouldn't be able to date and fool around with straight guys. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

I thought back then you werent fulltime, I dont know where just thought I heard that somewhere. Then saying uptown was GLBT friendly. Did you look different back then, or same look, how did you get by with a hair peice if you were kissing them and stuff? Not throwing shade, just thought you werent stealth?[/quote:7f1fcbff8f]

Girl, I dunno where you get your news? lol My hair is real. Guys can pull on it fine! It's not a synthetic pony like someone had bought from riteaid. :lol: I only mentioned it was glbt friendly because THATS where my t-friends wanted to go. And just because some of them doesn't really pass in broad daylight..They're still my friends regardless. I'm NOT that shallow of a friend.

~Kisses.

HTG[/quote:7f1fcbff8f]

I must be crazy, I thought I heard you say you werent fulltime and wore a wig, I may of seen it in HD?? I must be sorry, sorry, no shade I honestly thought I read that somewhere, you and Nicole talking about when you met or something.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

[quote:0ec7524bb4="NYTSJulie"][quote:0ec7524bb4="Hara_Juku Tgirl"][quote:0ec7524bb4="Nicole Dupre"]

He was kicked off of this forum before for threatening both Kelly and myself. And that's why Hara's out to suck his gay dick. She doesn't like either of us.

But Hara will NOT see black guys, so I don't know what that charade is about. She's a racist as well, actually.

Funny, the gay ass clown who couldn't make it as a tattoo artist or escort in Florida, couldn't keep himself from mentioning me in all his arguments! :lol:

And how do you know, I don't date black guys? Are you me?? My 1st bf here in the states (in MN) was black! :roll:

Way to spread more unfounded lies, bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara how come I didnt know you back when I lived in MN, I was Minnastoas it girl for the tranny network, and knew everyone and everyone knew me????

Yeah, I know. We've talked about this awhile ago. I lived there from '95 to early part of '00. My ts friends hang out at the 90's..other times, at First Ave. and after clubbing in uptown (Perkin's?). I used to live at Oakdale, MN then downtown St. Paul..across the World Trade Center, a few blocks away from the post office and Raddison Hotel. Where did you used to live and what years where you there Julie?

~Kisses.

HTG

I was there from 1998 to 2005, I lived in uptown for a few years, then moved to Loring Park between uptown and downtown Minneapolis. The 90's is still there, the place in uptown was Embers not Perkins, but its not there anymore and hasnt been for yrs. I get back there about 2 times a years to visit friends. What ts girls did you used to hang out with?

Smooches..........Julie

Kewl '98 to '00 I was exclusively dating a guy from Cannon Falls, MN. S I really haven't gone out much cos we're always together on weekends. That's it, Embers! lol I miss that place. I go to uptown alot. It's thee only trendy place in MN and also very glbt friendly area. I get my hair done at Calhoun Square (I forgot now the name of the salon)..I'm sure it's still there. The girls I used to hang out with are 2 black tgirls named Rayshawn and Tamika (both escorts for Dax?), a few Asian ones named Ling, Bai and Sam and a filipino one I used to go to high school with. ;)

I guess we've missed seeing each other back then.

~Kisses.

HTG

What nationality are you Hara? Wow Cannon Falls is far, must of been real love cause I wouldnt travel that far lol. No salon in Calhoun square, Aveda, John English and there was on the corner of 31st and Henn, those are the salons close by Calhoun Sq. but none inside of it. Never heard of Dax, I knew Mark a black guy who used to pimp out trannys, until I came a lone and stole them and they came and worked for me.

I am of Filipino-Chinese and Spanish descent. How about you? About Cannon Falls, we'll it was serious. And he paid for all the cab fares which was about $50-60 bucks one way ('bout an hour give or take on the freeway). I've dated guys from all over MN - Minnetonka, Brainerd, Apple Valley, Redwing etc. :lol:

I don't remember the name of the salon since it's been over 10 years already.. but I remember Aveda cos we all go there to get shampoo's, conditioner and other spritz! lol Must be John English and my stylist was a hot gay guy named Troy. ;) I *think I've heard of Mark, Is he heavy set black guy? I remembered him trying to recruit me to escort back then. But I wasn't really keen on doing that. Besides, from what the black girls told me..he takes too much money from the girls..so it was a NO GO deal for me. Plus I wasn't really OUT as a trannie, I lived and worked in stealth as a girl. You can go ahead and re-read my post and where I said or insinuated I wasn't full time?

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OH? Based on your other posts I thought you werent fulltime?

lol THATS what some latent tranny fag (whom you also talk to) wants everyone to think. I think he wants me to join him being a latent convert. Pay no attention to the black propaganda he is trying to spread. I actually went full time at 18 (when I was a junior in college). Maybe he's jealous not being able to? lol You can re-read my post where I clearly stated and or insinuated I wasn't full time? Never said that, HE did! ;)

Besides, how does a tranny fare if guys she dated knew she has a dick back in '95-00 and in conservative MN? One of my tgirl friends almost got a cigarette put out on her face! lol Which brings the question, IF I wasn't fulltime and didn't pass I wouldn't be able to date and fool around with straight guys. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

I thought back then you werent fulltime, I dont know where just thought I heard that somewhere. Then saying uptown was GLBT friendly. Did you look different back then, or same look, how did you get by with a hair peice if you were kissing them and stuff? Not throwing shade, just thought you werent stealth?[/quote:0ec7524bb4]

Girl, I dunno where you get your news? lol My hair is real. Guys can pull on it fine! It's not a synthetic pony like someone had bought from riteaid. :lol: I only mentioned it was glbt friendly because THATS where my t-friends wanted to go. And just because some of them doesn't really pass in broad daylight..They're still my friends regardless. I'm NOT that shallow of a friend.

~Kisses.

HTG[/quote:0ec7524bb4]

I must be crazy, I thought I heard you say you werent fulltime and wore a wig, I may of seen it in HD?? I must be sorry, sorry, no shade I honestly thought I read that somewhere, you and Nicole talking about when you met or something.[/quote:0ec7524bb4]

No offense taken. You might have read that on HD or here..I dunno. But some people 'claim' I wore a wig (hmm maybe I have lol) or that I'm bald or that I've just taken hormones recently without any basis or knowledge about me? All of which were false and was said out of HATRED. As I do FINE out in the real world and is never in short of supply of attractive and willing men to suck and fuck. It's pitiful really if you think about it, cos the one's who are 'trivializing' my existence as a transexual woman are the folks whom I wouldn't even give the time of day and are confused themselves! :lol: And If I recall, the person you mentioned was admiring my lovely ass (on myspace) and calling me 'fish' (on xpeeps). I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice. He also was convincing me to do porn and asking me to turn my tg support forum into a porn forum (this was before he'd gotten pissy at me). So you tell me who's being truthful and who's being shady? I know I'm NOT! When we met I was already a girl, he on the other hand resembled Tupak with a lipstick (I'm sure some people on here has seen that pic?)! 2009AD roll that priceless footage. ;) lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

No offense taken. You might have read that on HD or here..I dunno. But some people 'claim' I wore a wig (hmm maybe I have lol) or that I'm bald or that I've just taken hormones recently without any basis or knowledge about me? All of which were false and was said out of HATRED. As I do FINE out in the real world and is never in short of supply of attractive and willing men to suck and fuck. It's pitiful really if you think about it, cos the one's who are 'trivializing' my existence as a transexual woman are the folks whom I wouldn't even give the time of day and are confused themselves! :lol: And If I recall, the person you mentioned was admiring my lovely ass (on myspace) and calling me 'fish' (on xpeeps). I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice. He also was convincing me to do porn and asking me to turn my tg support forum into a porn forum (this was before he'd gotten pissy at me). So you tell me who's being truthful and who's being shady? I know I'm NOT! When we met I was already a girl, he on the other hand resembled Tupak with a lipstick (I'm sure some people on here has seen that pic?)! 2009AD roll that priceless footage. ;) lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Wait until we meet again.

[Dinand]

What's with the over excessive quoting in this thread?

[LittleGuy]

No offense taken. You might have read that on HD or here..I dunno. But some people 'claim' I wore a wig (hmm maybe I have lol) or that I'm bald or that I've just taken hormones recently without any basis or knowledge about me? All of which were false and was said out of HATRED. As I do FINE out in the real world and is never in short of supply of attractive and willing men to suck and fuck. It's pitiful really if you think about it, cos the one's who are 'trivializing' my existence as a transexual woman are the folks whom I wouldn't even give the time of day and are confused themselves! :lol: And If I recall, the person you mentioned was admiring my lovely ass (on myspace) and calling me 'fish' (on xpeeps). I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice. He also was convincing me to do porn and asking me to turn my tg support forum into a porn forum (this was before he'd gotten pissy at me). So you tell me who's being truthful and who's being shady? I know I'm NOT! When we met I was already a girl, he on the other hand resembled Tupak with a lipstick (I'm sure some people on here has seen that pic?)! 2009AD roll that priceless footage. ;) lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Wait until we meet again.

Is that a threat?

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

No offense taken. You might have read that on HD or here..I dunno. But some people 'claim' I wore a wig (hmm maybe I have lol) or that I'm bald or that I've just taken hormones recently without any basis or knowledge about me? All of which were false and was said out of HATRED. As I do FINE out in the real world and is never in short of supply of attractive and willing men to suck and fuck. It's pitiful really if you think about it, cos the one's who are 'trivializing' my existence as a transexual woman are the folks whom I wouldn't even give the time of day and are confused themselves! :lol: And If I recall, the person you mentioned was admiring my lovely ass (on myspace) and calling me 'fish' (on xpeeps). I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice. He also was convincing me to do porn and asking me to turn my tg support forum into a porn forum (this was before he'd gotten pissy at me). So you tell me who's being truthful and who's being shady? I know I'm NOT! When we met I was already a girl, he on the other hand resembled Tupak with a lipstick (I'm sure some people on here has seen that pic?)! 2009AD roll that priceless footage. ;) lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Wait until we meet again.

I highly doubt it! I've better things to do other than meet or hang out with an emotionally scared, mentally unstable and physically possessed person like you. But you can daydream and fantasize about it, Buffalo Bill. Rofl

~Kisses.

HTG

[2009AD]

No offense taken. You might have read that on HD or here..I dunno. But some people 'claim' I wore a wig (hmm maybe I have lol) or that I'm bald or that I've just taken hormones recently without any basis or knowledge about me? All of which were false and was said out of HATRED. As I do FINE out in the real world and is never in short of supply of attractive and willing men to suck and fuck. It's pitiful really if you think about it, cos the one's who are 'trivializing' my existence as a transexual woman are the folks whom I wouldn't even give the time of day and are confused themselves! :lol: And If I recall, the person you mentioned was admiring my lovely ass (on myspace) and calling me 'fish' (on xpeeps). I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice. He also was convincing me to do porn and asking me to turn my tg support forum into a porn forum (this was before he'd gotten pissy at me). So you tell me who's being truthful and who's being shady? I know I'm NOT! When we met I was already a girl, he on the other hand resembled Tupak with a lipstick (I'm sure some people on here has seen that pic?)! 2009AD roll that priceless footage. ;) lol

WTF is this "priceless footage" I have? It's news to me.

[NYTSJulie]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

[Nicole Dupre]

WTF is this "priceless footage" I have? It's news to me.

Lol - Lies are hard to keep track of. That's why I don't tell them.

But what Hara does is, he saves whatever he considers to be ammunition on both "friend" or foe. He has pics of me from backstage at the Coliseum in Sayreville, NJ from almost 6 years ago, before I began HRT in a serious way, which he gives to whichever haters he can recruit to post them. "Kisses". lol Yeah, right. He doesn't have a genuine or good-natured bone in his miserable flat-chested body.

So he must've forgotten who's ass he last blew smoke up when he passed on that last precious batch of "ammo". But, for like the bizillionth time, I don't care what I looked like almost 6 years ago. I guess he does, but I'm not surprised.

It's sorta like someone posting your old pics as a boy, thinking it will destroy you emotionally; haters live for such petty activities. Hara though he was in control when he asked you to "roll that footage" because those are the stakes he's playing for. The best part is, that photo with the scarf on my head was not even the makeup I wore on stage. Before I got ready, I was clowning for a friend with a brand new tube of MAC Russian Red. I wore wigs on stage, in full gig. lol There are actually even more of those pics. They were taken by a young drag queen from NJ I knew back then.

Eventually though, someone will post pics from his shoot for ShemaleYum 10 yrs ago and we'll see what progress he's made in the past decade. That will be pure comedy. :lol:

Anyway, this little fuckjob CD is mad because I chopped him. Period. That's what all the sneaky shade is about, and he's going to continue to get it back in spades until he crawls back under his rock or can say any of this to my face. I didn't put a gun to his head. He brought it upon himself. There are at least 3 or 4 otrher people here who know the dirt. Suffice to say, adults don't play these childlike games. We all simply watch and laugh at Hara for being the kooky hater he is. I have dirt on Hara that I won't reveal here out of respect to other people. It's like he's begging for trouble. But if he isn't an escort or doing porn, one has to wonder why he even bothers coming here. My theory is, it's merely his strong need for false validation and to hate on others.

[Silcc69]

No offense taken. You might have read that on HD or here..I dunno. But some people 'claim' I wore a wig (hmm maybe I have lol) or that I'm bald or that I've just taken hormones recently without any basis or knowledge about me? All of which were false and was said out of HATRED. As I do FINE out in the real world and is never in short of supply of attractive and willing men to suck and fuck. It's pitiful really if you think about it, cos the one's who are 'trivializing' my existence as a transexual woman are the folks whom I wouldn't even give the time of day and are confused themselves! :lol: And If I recall, the person you mentioned was admiring my lovely ass (on myspace) and calling me 'fish' (on xpeeps). I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice. He also was convincing me to do porn and asking me to turn my tg support forum into a porn forum (this was before he'd gotten pissy at me). So you tell me who's being truthful and who's being shady? I know I'm NOT! When we met I was already a girl, he on the other hand resembled Tupak with a lipstick (I'm sure some people on here has seen that pic?)! 2009AD roll that priceless footage. ;) lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Wait until we meet again.

I highly doubt it! I've better things to do other than meet or hang out with an emotionally scared, mentally unstable and physically possessed person like you. But you can daydream and fantasize about it, Buffalo Bill. Rofl

~Kisses.

HTG

Dont u mean Tupac?

[TsVanessa69]

He'll never fuck with another tranny ever again in his life!

[tsntx]

He'll never fuck with another tranny ever again in his life!


or hell fuck up every tranny he encounters when he gets older, or maybe hell set up appts with escorts and then extract his revenge one tranny at a time


either way no good will come from this

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.




But what Hara does is, he saves whatever he considers to be ammunition on both "friend" or foe. He has pics of me from backstage at the Coliseum in Sayreville, NJ from almost 6 years ago, before I began HRT

YOU'VE got to be the most convoluted wannabe tranny I ever know. First of all, WHY in the world would I keep such a horrendous image of you from way back 6 years ago? Also, how the hell did that image even started floatin' around online? If not you leaking them back in TG Pixel days! To refresh your ailing memory, I think it was Monica who posted that on here..not me. :roll:

.

So he must've forgotten who's ass he last blew smoke up when he passed on that last precious batch of "ammo".

Dude please..It was you who was spreading rumors about fellow girls here on HA. For example, how would I even know about TSnTX's ex bf if you weren't the LOUD MOUTH that you are? I don't know the guy muchless have met him in person - YOU did! So don't get it all twisted, clown!



Anyway, this little fuckjob CD is mad because I chopped him. Period. That's what all the sneaky shade is about, and he's going to continue to get it back in spades until he crawls back under his rock or can say any of this to my face. I didn't put a gun to his head. He brought it upon himself. There are at least 3 or 4 otrher people here who know the dirt. Suffice to say, adults don't play these childlike games. We all simply watch and laugh at Hara for being the kooky hater he is. I have dirt on Hara that I won't reveal here out of respect to other people. It's like he's begging for trouble. But if he isn't an escort or doing porn, one has to wonder why he even bothers coming here. My theory is, it's merely his strong need for false validation and to hate on others.

OMG! YOU'RE really some piece of work. Everyone could go back a few pages and see that it was YOU who started yet again with me with your arguments with Keepingitreal. I was actually been pretty quiet and busy the last couple of weeks and have not even posted here. If there's anyone who's mad it's YOU! You obviously couldn't stop uttering and dragging my name making negative comments to keep the spotlight to your desperate self (Is your phone not ringing for clients?)..NOT the other way around. You're also thee only one bothered that I'm here. YOU were a starving tattoo man 3-4 years ago, but you were HERE weren't you - YOU hypocrite? None told you to get the fuck out or leave except a few mod..and when you couldn't bear it (because quite a few people were making fun of you calling you SIR, truck driver etc) nor have your way when you passed on a ban list (of guys) to all the girls, you created another handle to barrage and make fun of Seanchai! :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[NYTSJulie]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

[Silcc69]

HARA vs. NICOLE PART DEUX!

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/106755d1239757831-funny-strange-random-pics-astronomically-epic-win.jpg

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

[Distance]

He'll never fuck with another tranny ever again in his life!

If that tranny is still doing the same job in ten years...these two kids will be in their early 20s...guess what's going to happen to the tranny if they ever meet again. :roll:

[NYTSJulie]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

No, the fact that we never crossed paths in MN has nothing to do with what I am saying. Maybe it’s just your definition of stealth is different than mine. I always thought stealth meant undetectable, meaning that someone passed completely and people didn’t question your gender. I think you might be referring to stealth as living fulltime and doing normal things not trans related.

[NYTSJulie]

He'll never fuck with another tranny ever again in his life!

If that tranny is still doing the same job in ten years...these two kids will be in their early 20s...guess what's going to happen to the tranny if they ever meet again. :roll:

ya she gonna mace the mother fuckers again.....lol

[Distance]

He'll never fuck with another tranny ever again in his life!

If that tranny is still doing the same job in ten years...these two kids will be in their early 20s...guess what's going to happen to the tranny if they ever meet again. :roll:

ya she gonna mace the mother fuckers again.....lol

:lol:

Seriously, I think she will end up as an open corned beef can.

[Nicole Dupre]

HARA vs. NICOLE PART DEUX!

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/106755d1239757831-funny-strange-random-pics-astronomically-epic-win.jpg

Ha! lol I love calling stuff "part duex". You've read my blog. ;)

But truth, I have no interest in this boy. This will only go as far as he wants it to. Case in point? He was obviously chatting with Echimandu, and also hoping to get 2009AD to post some old photos. Why he's blaming Monica, I don't know. Why he's dragging Jenn into it, I don't know. But for me, Jenn represents him tipping his hand. Something he did to her is when I decided that he royally fucked up.

Anyway, something pretty fucked up happened to me, and he tried twisting it into ammo against Jenn! Yet Jenn was COMPLETELY MINDING HER OWN BUSINESS! That's when I thought, "Ok. That was lower than low." Strike one.

Then, another thing happened where he aired dirty laundry about a working girl and a friend. I don't want such info. I want to mind my own fucking business. Strike two.

Then, out of the clear blue sky, he wanted assistance in bashing Bella. I didn't even know Bella! Wtf? Strike three, and the little boy is OUT! Chopped!

He made his bed, CLEARLY, and can he now hop under the covers and CROAK for all I care. I am done with this titless monster. Period.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

No, the fact that we never crossed paths in MN has nothing to do with what I am saying. Maybe it’s just your definition of stealth is different than mine. I always thought stealth meant undetectable, meaning that someone passed completely and people didn’t question your gender. I think you might be referring to stealth as living fulltime and doing normal things not trans related.

And I have. I worked as a visual display merchandiser for Marshall Fields (even got an offer at Sak's which I turned down), worked as store manager on one of the Limited Inc. group of stores, The Raddison hotel to name a few. None ever questioned my gender (even though at hiring, I told HR and my manager). You're also forgetting that I'm Asian (and Asians easily pass as women). So why would that be so hard to believe? I was doing things like any normal girl (my age at the time) would. Not everything do or places I go to are trans-related. My ex bf and I go at the lake every summer and go sailing (he has a 30foot sailboat), we go to dinners, functions etc. and I remain undetected. It's my life, I know what happened and how it happened. I just find it offensive and rather preposterous that some trans-sisters objecting to it, rather than being supportive. I mean, really.

~Kisses.

HTG

[tsntx]

aww pedo-bear :D

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

But truth, I have no interest in this boy.

Likewise! I have NO interest in Clowns! lol


This will only go as far as he wants it to. Case in point? He was obviously chatting with Echimandu, and also hoping to get 2009AD to post some old photos. Why he's blaming Monica, I don't know.

Completely irrelevant.


Why he's dragging Jenn into it, I don't know. But for me, Jenn represents him tipping his hand. Something he did to her is when I decided that he royally fucked up.

NOT dagging Jen into it. I'm simply reminding you and everyone what a fucked up person you are. You thrive on drama. You LOVE and LIVE for drama. And you're using me to create it, so people on HA won't forget you. And you"re HOPING guys would book your granny ass for a session. That it. Nothing more, nothing less!



Then, another thing happened where he aired dirty laundry about a working girl and a friend. I don't want such info. I want to mind my own fucking business. Strike two.

You gotta be kidding me. Thee only person who hates that working girl is YOU! YOU even went as far as posting aout it on HD! :roll: See you can twist it all you want, but the truth will always haunt you!


He made his bed, CLEARLY, and can he now hop under the covers and CROAK for all I care. I am done with this titless monster. Period.

Touché Krusty! lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[tsntx]

wait i got mentioned.... back up.... whats going on?

[Nicole Dupre]

aww pedo-bear :D

They do look alike! :lol:

[Nicole Dupre]

wait i got mentioned.... back up.... whats going on?

Yeah, he did. This is what I mean. NO SHAME!!!

__________________________________________________ ____

Like outing a certain someone's HIV status. That person is not even on this forum, but it was done. A total sweetheart. Someone who also made the mistake of calling him a friend.

__________________________________________________ _________

Hara, you are a total piece of shit. I don't give a fuck if you pass, get spooked, live stealth, etc. You are a fucking scumbag.

[Nicole Dupre]

This is why the fucking boy can't hang with any TS. He'd get his ass beaten by all of the people he fucked with.

[NYTSJulie]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

No, the fact that we never crossed paths in MN has nothing to do with what I am saying. Maybe it’s just your definition of stealth is different than mine. I always thought stealth meant undetectable, meaning that someone passed completely and people didn’t question your gender. I think you might be referring to stealth as living fulltime and doing normal things not trans related.

And I have. I worked as a visual display merchandiser for Marshall Fields (even got an offer at Sak's which I turned down), worked as store manager on one of the Limited Inc. group of stores, The Raddison hotel to name a few. None ever questioned my gender (even though at hiring, I told HR and my manager). You're also forgetting that I'm Asian (and Asians easily pass as women). So why would that be so hard to believe? I was doing things like any normal girl (my age at the time) would. Not everything do or places I go to are trans-related. My ex bf and I go at the lake every summer and go sailing (he has a 30foot sailboat), we go to dinners, functions etc. and I remain undetected. It's my life, I know what happened and how it happened. I just find it offensive and rather preposterous that some trans-sisters objecting to it, rather than being supportive. I mean, really.

~Kisses.

HTG

I am just basing this on your photos, Asian or whatever, you could be 4'11 but a man’s face is a man’s face. I am not trying it with you, I am sure you pass sometimes; I just get bothered when trans girls are delusional.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

wait i got mentioned.... back up.... whats going on?

Yeah, he did. This is what I mean. NO SHAME!!!

__________________________________________________ ____

Like outing a certain someone's HIV status. That person is not even on this forum, but it was done. A total sweetheart. Someone who also made the mistake of calling him a friend.

__________________________________________________ _________

Hara, you are a total piece of shit. I don't give a fuck if you pass, get spooked, live stealth, etc. You are a fucking scumbag.

This isn't about Jen.

Nicole, do you even know that the one who was HIV+ did not tell her/his bf about it? And she/he intentionally infected him? There! You got a big mouth taking sides in this one which was about 4 years ago tg pixel days! Anyone with a brain will know I'm not as hateful as YOU! :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

But truth, I have no interest in this boy.

Likewise! I have NO interest in Clowns! lol


This will only go as far as he wants it to. Case in point? He was obviously chatting with Echimandu, and also hoping to get 2009AD to post some old photos. Why he's blaming Monica, I don't know.

Completely irrelevant.


Why he's dragging Jenn into it, I don't know. But for me, Jenn represents him tipping his hand. Something he did to her is when I decided that he royally fucked up.

NOT dagging Jen into it. I'm simply reminding you and everyone what a fucked up person you are. You thrive on drama. You LOVE and LIVE for drama. And you're using me to create it, so people on HA won't forget you. And you"re HOPING guys would book your granny ass for a session. That it. Nothing more, nothing less!



Then, another thing happened where he aired dirty laundry about a working girl and a friend. I don't want such info. I want to mind my own fucking business. Strike two.

You gotta be kidding me. Thee only person who hates that working girl is YOU! YOU even went as far as posting aout it on HD! :roll: See you can twist it all you want, but the truth will always haunt you!


He made his bed, CLEARLY, and can he now hop under the covers and CROAK for all I care. I am done with this titless monster. Period.

Touché Krusty! lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Touché? lol You're truly retarded, but thanks, faggot.

Now learn to speak English properly first, moron.

Anyway, go fuck yourself, you scummy boy. Ask yourself why no one trusts you instead of fabricating more nonsense.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

No, the fact that we never crossed paths in MN has nothing to do with what I am saying. Maybe it’s just your definition of stealth is different than mine. I always thought stealth meant undetectable, meaning that someone passed completely and people didn’t question your gender. I think you might be referring to stealth as living fulltime and doing normal things not trans related.

And I have. I worked as a visual display merchandiser for Marshall Fields (even got an offer at Sak's which I turned down), worked as store manager on one of the Limited Inc. group of stores, The Raddison hotel to name a few. None ever questioned my gender (even though at hiring, I told HR and my manager). You're also forgetting that I'm Asian (and Asians easily pass as women). So why would that be so hard to believe? I was doing things like any normal girl (my age at the time) would. Not everything do or places I go to are trans-related. My ex bf and I go at the lake every summer and go sailing (he has a 30foot sailboat), we go to dinners, functions etc. and I remain undetected. It's my life, I know what happened and how it happened. I just find it offensive and rather preposterous that some trans-sisters objecting to it, rather than being supportive. I mean, really.

~Kisses.

HTG

I am just basing this on your photos, Asian or whatever, you could be 4'11 but a man’s face is a man’s face. I am not trying it with you, I am sure you pass sometimes; I just get bothered when trans girls are delusional.

I agree. But sadly, I am NOT one of them. Besides, I haven't even really started any major work like most on here has. We cannot compare pre-FFS face to a post FFS face. I think you're just bored and bashing (trying) me when you should be addressing and discussing having a "man's face" to your FRIEND!

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

wait i got mentioned.... back up.... whats going on?

Yeah, he did. This is what I mean. NO SHAME!!!

__________________________________________________ ____

Like outing a certain someone's HIV status. That person is not even on this forum, but it was done. A total sweetheart. Someone who also made the mistake of calling him a friend.

__________________________________________________ _________

Hara, you are a total piece of shit. I don't give a fuck if you pass, get spooked, live stealth, etc. You are a fucking scumbag.

This isn't about Jen.

Nicole, do you even know that the one who was HIV+ did not tell her/his bf about it? And she/he intentionally infected him? There! You got a big mouth taking sides in this one which was about 4 years ago tg pixel days! Anyone with a brain will know I'm not as hateful as YOU! :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

You didn't betray her because of HIV, even though your big mouth was wide open telling people her business. You betrayed her because she knew you cheated the votes on Pixel and wouldn't back you up on it! Give it up, fool!

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

But truth, I have no interest in this boy.

Likewise! I have NO interest in Clowns! lol


This will only go as far as he wants it to. Case in point? He was obviously chatting with Echimandu, and also hoping to get 2009AD to post some old photos. Why he's blaming Monica, I don't know.

Completely irrelevant.


Why he's dragging Jenn into it, I don't know. But for me, Jenn represents him tipping his hand. Something he did to her is when I decided that he royally fucked up.

NOT dagging Jen into it. I'm simply reminding you and everyone what a fucked up person you are. You thrive on drama. You LOVE and LIVE for drama. And you're using me to create it, so people on HA won't forget you. And you"re HOPING guys would book your granny ass for a session. That it. Nothing more, nothing less!



Then, another thing happened where he aired dirty laundry about a working girl and a friend. I don't want such info. I want to mind my own fucking business. Strike two.

You gotta be kidding me. Thee only person who hates that working girl is YOU! YOU even went as far as posting aout it on HD! :roll: See you can twist it all you want, but the truth will always haunt you!


He made his bed, CLEARLY, and can he now hop under the covers and CROAK for all I care. I am done with this titless monster. Period.

Touché Krusty! lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Touché? lol You're truly retarded, but thanks, faggot.

Now learn to speak English properly first, moron.

Anyway, go fuck yourself, you scummy boy. Ask yourself why no one trusts you instead of fabricating more nonsense.

Lmao :lol: Fabricating? If there's no smoke there's no fire..surely the fire was set off by YOU! So fuck you Homo!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

wait i got mentioned.... back up.... whats going on?

Yeah, he did. This is what I mean. NO SHAME!!!

__________________________________________________ ____

Like outing a certain someone's HIV status. That person is not even on this forum, but it was done. A total sweetheart. Someone who also made the mistake of calling him a friend.

__________________________________________________ _________

Hara, you are a total piece of shit. I don't give a fuck if you pass, get spooked, live stealth, etc. You are a fucking scumbag.

This isn't about Jen.

Nicole, do you even know that the one who was HIV+ did not tell her/his bf about it? And she/he intentionally infected him? There! You got a big mouth taking sides in this one which was about 4 years ago tg pixel days! Anyone with a brain will know I'm not as hateful as YOU! :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

You didn't betray her because of HIV, even though your big mouth was wide open telling people her business. You betrayed her because she knew you cheated the votes on Pixel and wouldn't back you up on it! Give it up, fool!

Oh my God, YOU are just fucking retarded! From what i can recall, YOU were hating on the one with HIV. And I tried fixing you two. My only mistake was to tell you about her/his HIV status..in my hopes to get a lil compassion from you. And was I WRONG! You don't got any in your body!! Also that person has sent me numerous YIM messages just a few months ago. Which means, the only person making a fuss about it is YOU!

Yeah, your arguments gets weaker and weaker and your topic of interest are all over the place. lol Nothing was proven..they were accusation. Why don't you stop smoking that crack pipe for once and get a life? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

wait i got mentioned.... back up.... whats going on?

Yeah, he did. This is what I mean. NO SHAME!!!

__________________________________________________ ____

Like outing a certain someone's HIV status. That person is not even on this forum, but it was done. A total sweetheart. Someone who also made the mistake of calling him a friend.

__________________________________________________ _________

Hara, you are a total piece of shit. I don't give a fuck if you pass, get spooked, live stealth, etc. You are a fucking scumbag.

This isn't about Jen.

Nicole, do you even know that the one who was HIV+ did not tell her/his bf about it? And she/he intentionally infected him? There! You got a big mouth taking sides in this one which was about 4 years ago tg pixel days! Anyone with a brain will know I'm not as hateful as YOU! :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

You didn't betray her because of HIV, even though your big mouth was wide open telling people her business. You betrayed her because she knew you cheated the votes on Pixel and wouldn't back you up on it! Give it up, fool!

Oh my God, YOU are just fucking retarded! From HIV to what now? Yeah, your arguments gets weaker and weaker and your topic of interest are all over the place. lol Nothing was proven..they were accusation. Why don't you stop smoking that crack pipe for once and get a life? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
Nothing was proven? lol Are you sure about that? ;) That site was template based with a major flaw: you could vote for yourself repeatedly! But the webmaster can also observe it easily.

There are other sites just like it. They all have that same flaw. In fact, you're a member of another one. This one says you were born in 1969.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

wait i got mentioned.... back up.... whats going on?

Yeah, he did. This is what I mean. NO SHAME!!!

__________________________________________________ ____

Like outing a certain someone's HIV status. That person is not even on this forum, but it was done. A total sweetheart. Someone who also made the mistake of calling him a friend.

__________________________________________________ _________

Hara, you are a total piece of shit. I don't give a fuck if you pass, get spooked, live stealth, etc. You are a fucking scumbag.

This isn't about Jen.

Nicole, do you even know that the one who was HIV+ did not tell her/his bf about it? And she/he intentionally infected him? There! You got a big mouth taking sides in this one which was about 4 years ago tg pixel days! Anyone with a brain will know I'm not as hateful as YOU! :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

You didn't betray her because of HIV, even though your big mouth was wide open telling people her business. You betrayed her because she knew you cheated the votes on Pixel and wouldn't back you up on it! Give it up, fool!

Oh my God, YOU are just fucking retarded! From HIV to what now? Yeah, your arguments gets weaker and weaker and your topic of interest are all over the place. lol Nothing was proven..they were accusation. Why don't you stop smoking that crack pipe for once and get a life? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
Nothing was proven? lol Are you sure about that? ;) That site was template based with a major flaw: you could vote for yourself repeatedly! But the webmaster can also observe it easily.

There are other sites just like it. They all have that same flaw. In fact, you're a member of another one. This one says you were born in 1969.

Yes, I expected you being delirious. So whatelse is new? Someone gave me a vote. I sent a pm to acknowledge it. What's wrong with that? I even told him I returned the favor!! lol Now about the flaws, how did you know that? IF you haven't been voting for yourself? Hilarious. I didn't even knew that.

Wow, such childish crap. YOU need to grow up and act your age - 45 (5 more years to 50)!! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

P.S. Look at myspace, It's got me there as 100 years old! SMFH lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Compassion? You told me because you were a rat bastard whore. Get fucking real.

Speaking of being a whore, why did you switch from escorting to changing bedpans? Why do I have surgeries and you don't? why can I afford nice clothing and you can't? Why can I afford to pay photographers and you can't? You are an escort FAIL! So don't hate. You have no FFS because you can't even afford clothes!That's why you live in this tiny little world, where you stoop to talking to guys like Echimandu - a guy who was banned for making threats towards Kelly and me. WHAT a fucking scumbag YOU are, is more like it. Where's your compassion? Where's your support for other M2F?

[Silcc69]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/4/128703294496319667.jpg

[Nicole Dupre]

You posed for Yum 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO! STILL, NO PROGRESS!?! HOW FAB!!! Now change those diapers, Jackie Chan in a wig! :lol:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Compassion? You told me because you were a rat bastard whore. Get fucking real.

Speaking of being a whore, why did you switch from escorting to changing bedpans? Why do I have surgeries and you don't? why can I afford nice clothing and you can't? Why can I afford to pay photographers and you can't? You are an escort FAIL! So don't hate. You have no FFS because you can't even afford clothes!That's why you live in this tiny little world, where you stoop to talking to guys like Echimandu - a guy who was banned for making threats towards Kelly and me. WHAT a fucking scumbag YOU are, is more like it. Where's your compassion? Where's your support for other M2F?

For real, YOU don't have it! Accept that and move on!

You could afford some surgeries simply because you've maxed out all your credit cards and also from 'dealing' crack! There I said it! I don't do those things hence my transition is slow but steady. I also said awhile back that I help my half brother and sister get a college education. Do you have a college education? Maybe you don't know how much that cost?!? I can sacrifice superficial surgeries for them. They're family. End of discussion.

Escort fail? Please, you've never been successful at anything that you have done and will do! You failed as a tattoo artist, even the ones you tried applying to turned you down. In Florida, you were'nt making the money you much hoped for hence moving back to NYC! There you go..chew and swallow it!

You cannot tell me whom (or not) to talk to. YOU don't run my life and never will!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You posed for Yum 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO! STILL, NO PROGRESS!?! HOW FAB!!! Now change those diapers, Jackie Chan in a wig! :lol:

I said this once, and will say it again. Getting breast, a nose job and your ass pumped with silicone does NOT make YOU a woman. You're fucking face is still a face of a man and your make up needs rework..look at your pot colored face? The borderline on your neck does not compliment the face. :lol:

At any rate, Id much rather have a slow progress than look like a freak with D's walking around Manhattan! You're a monstrosity!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

Failed as a tattoo artist? It's a flooded industry! I made more at escorting!!! :lol:

And that's the funniest lie yet! Sold crack? Where? When? Please tell me! I smoke cigs and drink coffee, and smoke a joint maybe 5 times a year. Get real, Shrek!

Don't hate because I have a phone that rings 24/7. M2Fs achieve far more than you have if they look real. You dress like a pauper, in that tired black long sleeve top. Good Lord, at least buy some Mossimo at Target. I know even Boston Proper would put you in the red. But c'mon! You dress like a bag lady! Maybe your bro should be escorting too, at the rate your going.

[Nicole Dupre]

Wait. You think your face is more fishy too? But then where are your coins? You're too good to escort? Too good for porn? But you spend your time here? ;)

[Nicole Dupre]

Bitch, if you look like a woman, so does he! I could buy him a wig and paint him and he'd leave you in the dust!

http://mykoma.googlepages.com/Jackie_Chan_654446.jpg

[Nicole Dupre]

Kisses from Jackie Chan! LMAO! Somebody Photoshop a wig on him! I will kiki!!!

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-2/jackie-chan.jpg

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Failed as a tattoo artist? It's a flooded industry! I made more at escorting!!! :lol:

And that's the funniest lie yet! Sold crack? Where? When? Please tell me! I smoke cigs and drink coffee, and smoke a joint maybe 5 times a year. Get real, Shrek!

Don't hate because I have a phone that rings 24/7. M2Fs achieve far more than you have if they look real. You dress like a pauper, in that tired black long sleeve top. Good Lord, at least buy some Mossimo at Target. I know even Boston Proper would put you in the red. But c'mon! You dress like a bag lady! Maybe your bro should be escorting too, at the rate your going.

Can't take it, bitch? lol Funny how you get furious when the truth comes out. :lol: And why would I hate you? As far as I know, YOU'RE thee one who's hating on me (not the other way around). You were the one who mentioned me with Keepingitforreal. Get your facts straight and stop twisting them to suit your hidden but very obvious agenda.

We already know how much you LOVE to shop at Target and a BIG Mossimo fan..in fact, when we met you wore an xhilaration (sp?) jean over alls and a $5.00 shirt and a sandal that you look like a tranny farmer. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Wait. You think your face is more fishy too? But then where are your coins? You're too good to escort? Too good for porn? But you spend your time here? ;)

My coins are invested at my siblings education. I never said I was too good to escort or do porn..all of THAT came out of your rotten mouth! But what do we expect from a sicilian faggot trash from Joirsey? MORE TRASH TALK but of course. :lol:

Your 4 post one after the other is an indication that 'someone' is MAD! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[NYTSJulie]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

No, the fact that we never crossed paths in MN has nothing to do with what I am saying. Maybe it’s just your definition of stealth is different than mine. I always thought stealth meant undetectable, meaning that someone passed completely and people didn’t question your gender. I think you might be referring to stealth as living fulltime and doing normal things not trans related.

And I have. I worked as a visual display merchandiser for Marshall Fields (even got an offer at Sak's which I turned down), worked as store manager on one of the Limited Inc. group of stores, The Raddison hotel to name a few. None ever questioned my gender (even though at hiring, I told HR and my manager). You're also forgetting that I'm Asian (and Asians easily pass as women). So why would that be so hard to believe? I was doing things like any normal girl (my age at the time) would. Not everything do or places I go to are trans-related. My ex bf and I go at the lake every summer and go sailing (he has a 30foot sailboat), we go to dinners, functions etc. and I remain undetected. It's my life, I know what happened and how it happened. I just find it offensive and rather preposterous that some trans-sisters objecting to it, rather than being supportive. I mean, really.

~Kisses.

HTG

I am just basing this on your photos, Asian or whatever, you could be 4'11 but a man’s face is a man’s face. I am not trying it with you, I am sure you pass sometimes; I just get bothered when trans girls are delusional.

I agree. But sadly, I am NOT one of them. Besides, I haven't even really started any major work like most on here has. We cannot compare pre-FFS face to a post FFS face. I think you're just bored and bashing (trying) me when you should be addressing and discussing having a "man's face" to your FRIEND!

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

So your pre any surgery, ok thats not the point, the point is now today and whats your passing status, you claim its over the top and you love a life in steath. Ok girl if your so cunt lets see some pics, take a few with your camera phone so you cant touch them up and lets see. I ask this cause I dont believe it, I am not bored like you said nor am I fighting for Nicole like you said, I am just calling you on bullshit that I know isnt true, what is true is that your an internet tranny that goes room to room and most of your "female" life is spent online.

[Nicole Dupre]

Failed as a tattoo artist? It's a flooded industry! I made more at escorting!!! :lol:

And that's the funniest lie yet! Sold crack? Where? When? Please tell me! I smoke cigs and drink coffee, and smoke a joint maybe 5 times a year. Get real, Shrek!

Don't hate because I have a phone that rings 24/7. M2Fs achieve far more than you have if they look real. You dress like a pauper, in that tired black long sleeve top. Good Lord, at least buy some Mossimo at Target. I know even Boston Proper would put you in the red. But c'mon! You dress like a bag lady! Maybe your bro should be escorting too, at the rate your going.

Can't take it, bitch? lol Funny how you get furious when the truth comes out. :lol: And why would I hate you? As far as I know, YOU'RE thee one who's hating on me (not the other way around). You were the one who mentioned me with Keepingitforreal. Get your facts straight and stop twisting them to suit your hidden but very obvious agenda.

We already know how much you LOVE to shop at Target and a BIG Mossimo fan..in fact, when we met you wore an xhilaration jean over all and a $5.00 shirt and a sandal that you look like a tranny farmer. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTGWait. You want to try clocking my fashions from over 5 yrs ago before I was escorting? I've never worn cheap shit like you do ever anyway. Please. I just spent so much fucking money on Burberry for the winter, it would cover your rent for years. Please.

And you stepped onto this thread kissing a hater's ass. That's on you, not me. You also made a fool out of yourself with the comment to 2009AD. So just stop, Jackie C. Change your bedpans and stfu.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

No, the fact that we never crossed paths in MN has nothing to do with what I am saying. Maybe it’s just your definition of stealth is different than mine. I always thought stealth meant undetectable, meaning that someone passed completely and people didn’t question your gender. I think you might be referring to stealth as living fulltime and doing normal things not trans related.

And I have. I worked as a visual display merchandiser for Marshall Fields (even got an offer at Sak's which I turned down), worked as store manager on one of the Limited Inc. group of stores, The Raddison hotel to name a few. None ever questioned my gender (even though at hiring, I told HR and my manager). You're also forgetting that I'm Asian (and Asians easily pass as women). So why would that be so hard to believe? I was doing things like any normal girl (my age at the time) would. Not everything do or places I go to are trans-related. My ex bf and I go at the lake every summer and go sailing (he has a 30foot sailboat), we go to dinners, functions etc. and I remain undetected. It's my life, I know what happened and how it happened. I just find it offensive and rather preposterous that some trans-sisters objecting to it, rather than being supportive. I mean, really.

~Kisses.

HTG

I am just basing this on your photos, Asian or whatever, you could be 4'11 but a man’s face is a man’s face. I am not trying it with you, I am sure you pass sometimes; I just get bothered when trans girls are delusional.

I agree. But sadly, I am NOT one of them. Besides, I haven't even really started any major work like most on here has. We cannot compare pre-FFS face to a post FFS face. I think you're just bored and bashing (trying) me when you should be addressing and discussing having a "man's face" to your FRIEND!

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

So your pre any surgery, ok thats not the point, the point is now today and whats your passing status, you claim its over the top and you love a life in steath. Ok girl if your so cunt lets see some pics, take a few with your camera phone so you cant touch them up and lets see. I ask this cause I dont believe it, I am not bored like you said nor am I fighting for Nicole like you said, I am just calling you on bullshit that I know isnt true, what is true is that your an internet tranny that goes room to room and most of your "female" life is spent online.

Why would you or anyone care? We really don't know each other from anywhere but here? And I doubt you're doing this out od genuine curiosity (I knew you're friends with Nicole). I never "claimed" my passing status/privilages was over the top. That was your own interpretation, not mine. I lived in stealth back in MN because let's face it, back in '95 and early '00 (maybe even to this day), MN is STILL not as open minded as other glbt states or cities. It's the only way to go and have a normal life just like everyone else.

It's quite easy to call out strangers, YOU haven't met me and don't know me. It's ok. I am NOT competing with you. This THING is between me and Nicole. And I'd appreciate it ALOT if you can stop inserting yourself with our conversation. Like I said, WE got NO beef. Do not Kelly Shore me. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[NYTSJulie]

google search gave me this

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&contributorid=30002033

its the same 6 pictures over and over agian, they are over exposed and its in fetish wear, the ones that show your face show that you have a mans face....your not a "stealth" girl, I mean come the fuck on, do I look like I just started my transition yesterday and dont know the in and out of this shit, its almost an insult that you would think I would buy this bullshit.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Failed as a tattoo artist? It's a flooded industry! I made more at escorting!!! :lol:

And that's the funniest lie yet! Sold crack? Where? When? Please tell me! I smoke cigs and drink coffee, and smoke a joint maybe 5 times a year. Get real, Shrek!

Don't hate because I have a phone that rings 24/7. M2Fs achieve far more than you have if they look real. You dress like a pauper, in that tired black long sleeve top. Good Lord, at least buy some Mossimo at Target. I know even Boston Proper would put you in the red. But c'mon! You dress like a bag lady! Maybe your bro should be escorting too, at the rate your going.

Can't take it, bitch? lol Funny how you get furious when the truth comes out. :lol: And why would I hate you? As far as I know, YOU'RE thee one who's hating on me (not the other way around). You were the one who mentioned me with Keepingitforreal. Get your facts straight and stop twisting them to suit your hidden but very obvious agenda.

We already know how much you LOVE to shop at Target and a BIG Mossimo fan..in fact, when we met you wore an xhilaration jean over all and a $5.00 shirt and a sandal that you look like a tranny farmer. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTGWait. You want to try clocking my fashions from over 5 yrs ago before I was escorting? I've never worn cheap shit like you do ever anyway. Please. I just spent so much fucking money on Burberry for the winter, it would cover your rent for years. Please.

And you stepped onto this thread kissing a hater's ass. That's on you, not me. You also made a fool out of yourself with the comment to 2009AD. So just stop, Jackie C. Change your bedpans and stfu.

Uhuh, Burberry from the back of a truck down in FL.? lol :roll:

I wasn't kissing any ass..Keepingitreal gave me a compliment. Why are you acting like someone is exorcising you? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

google search gave me this

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&contributorid=30002033

its the same 6 pictures over and over agian, they are over exposed and its in fetish wear, the ones that show your face show that you have a mans face....your not a "stealth" girl, I mean come the fuck on, do I look like I just started my transition yesterday and dont know the in and out of this shit, its almost an insult that you would think I would buy this bullshit.

That's your opinion. I'll respect that. It doesn't really matter to me either way..knowing that you're friends with my hater. Hence you're biased from the getgo and wanted to help out your friend. Like I said, you want to be a critique or a ts beauty consultant, then use that on your friend not me. Not once was I even asking for any of your advice.

~Kisses.

HTG

[NYTSJulie]

I could take screen shots if this explanation doesn't suffice.



Ok sure, take a few screen shots. One of your hair line, and also one head to toe of you.....bring it to the light

I meant to say..was actually referring to what your 'friend' said to me on myspace and xpeeps before he's gotten pissy. But I got a better Idea. Why don't you add me on myspace or xpeeps (if you got one)? But since I know that YOU'RE 'friends' with him I honestly doubt that you're doing this just out of 'real' curiosity. So why bother? I got literally NOTHING to prove to you, him or anyone. As as I'm concern, this isn't a pissing contest.

I've NO beef with you so all I'm asking is for you to leave this THING alone between your friend and me.



I have no beef with you either, and you maybe fulltime or not, I have seen pure messes be fulltime, but to say you were stealth is kinda streaching it dont ya think????

So now you've got a problem when I said I lived in stealth? When I use to live back in MN? You asked why we haven't met. I answered you. You ran an escorting agency back then I was working in retail. Two different worlds. I had a bf (back then) so what makes you think that any tgirl in my shoes would want the whole Twin Cities to know my business? Seriously..Isn't most tgirls goal is to blend in and assimilate?

~Kisses.

HTG

No, the fact that we never crossed paths in MN has nothing to do with what I am saying. Maybe it’s just your definition of stealth is different than mine. I always thought stealth meant undetectable, meaning that someone passed completely and people didn’t question your gender. I think you might be referring to stealth as living fulltime and doing normal things not trans related.

And I have. I worked as a visual display merchandiser for Marshall Fields (even got an offer at Sak's which I turned down), worked as store manager on one of the Limited Inc. group of stores, The Raddison hotel to name a few. None ever questioned my gender (even though at hiring, I told HR and my manager). You're also forgetting that I'm Asian (and Asians easily pass as women). So why would that be so hard to believe? I was doing things like any normal girl (my age at the time) would. Not everything do or places I go to are trans-related. My ex bf and I go at the lake every summer and go sailing (he has a 30foot sailboat), we go to dinners, functions etc. and I remain undetected. It's my life, I know what happened and how it happened. I just find it offensive and rather preposterous that some trans-sisters objecting to it, rather than being supportive. I mean, really.

~Kisses.

HTG

I am just basing this on your photos, Asian or whatever, you could be 4'11 but a man’s face is a man’s face. I am not trying it with you, I am sure you pass sometimes; I just get bothered when trans girls are delusional.

I agree. But sadly, I am NOT one of them. Besides, I haven't even really started any major work like most on here has. We cannot compare pre-FFS face to a post FFS face. I think you're just bored and bashing (trying) me when you should be addressing and discussing having a "man's face" to your FRIEND!

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

So your pre any surgery, ok thats not the point, the point is now today and whats your passing status, you claim its over the top and you love a life in steath. Ok girl if your so cunt lets see some pics, take a few with your camera phone so you cant touch them up and lets see. I ask this cause I dont believe it, I am not bored like you said nor am I fighting for Nicole like you said, I am just calling you on bullshit that I know isnt true, what is true is that your an internet tranny that goes room to room and most of your "female" life is spent online.

Why would you or anyone care? We really don't know each other from anywhere but here? And I doubt you're doing this out od genuine curiosity (I knew you're friends with Nicole). I never "claimed" my passing status/privilages was over the top. That was your own interpretation, not mine. I lived in stealth back in MN because let's face it, back in '95 and early '00 (maybe even to this day), MN is STILL not as open minded as other glbt states or cities. It's the only way to go and have a normal life just like everyone else.

It's quite easy to call out strangers, YOU haven't met me and don't know me. It's ok. I am NOT competing with you. This THING is between me and Nicole. And I'd appreciate it ALOT if you can stop inserting yourself with our conversation. Like I said, WE got NO beef. Do not Kelly Shore me. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

girl I call it based on your face, that is a mans face, don’t tell me people don’t know your trans, show proof, right now snap a camera phone pic, girl this isn’t some cross dresser room, here you deal with girls who are real life and know the difference, I been on hormones for 15 yrs, I know a thing or two about transition, to tell me your stealth is bullshit. If you can’t show the phone pic then let’s see a reg pic of you outside being normal and not using the liquify filter or the brightness/contrast to filter out your male features.

[Nicole Dupre]

Failed as a tattoo artist? It's a flooded industry! I made more at escorting!!! :lol:

And that's the funniest lie yet! Sold crack? Where? When? Please tell me! I smoke cigs and drink coffee, and smoke a joint maybe 5 times a year. Get real, Shrek!

Don't hate because I have a phone that rings 24/7. M2Fs achieve far more than you have if they look real. You dress like a pauper, in that tired black long sleeve top. Good Lord, at least buy some Mossimo at Target. I know even Boston Proper would put you in the red. But c'mon! You dress like a bag lady! Maybe your bro should be escorting too, at the rate your going.

Can't take it, bitch? lol Funny how you get furious when the truth comes out. :lol: And why would I hate you? As far as I know, YOU'RE thee one who's hating on me (not the other way around). You were the one who mentioned me with Keepingitforreal. Get your facts straight and stop twisting them to suit your hidden but very obvious agenda.

We already know how much you LOVE to shop at Target and a BIG Mossimo fan..in fact, when we met you wore an xhilaration jean over all and a $5.00 shirt and a sandal that you look like a tranny farmer. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTGWait. You want to try clocking my fashions from over 5 yrs ago before I was escorting? I've never worn cheap shit like you do ever anyway. Please. I just spent so much fucking money on Burberry for the winter, it would cover your rent for years. Please.

And you stepped onto this thread kissing a hater's ass. That's on you, not me. You also made a fool out of yourself with the comment to 2009AD. So just stop, Jackie C. Change your bedpans and stfu.

Uhuh, Burberry from the back of a truck down in FL.? lol :roll:

I wasn't kissing any ass..Keepingitreal gave me a compliment. Why are you acting like someone is exorcising you? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Back of a truck? lol Ummm, no. Guess again, Jackie. My everyday bag costs more than all the clothes in your closet. ALL REAL! DON'T HATE!

[NYTSJulie]

google search gave me this

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&contributorid=30002033

its the same 6 pictures over and over agian, they are over exposed and its in fetish wear, the ones that show your face show that you have a mans face....your not a "stealth" girl, I mean come the fuck on, do I look like I just started my transition yesterday and dont know the in and out of this shit, its almost an insult that you would think I would buy this bullshit.

That's your opinion. I'll respect that. It doesn't really matter to me either way..knowing that you're friends with my hater. Hence you're biased from the getgo and wanted to help out your friend. Like I said, you want to be a critique or a ts beauty consultant, then use that on your friend not me. Not once was I even asking for any of your advice.

~Kisses.

HTG

no you didnt ask for advice but we were talking about MN and you said "oh I was stealth", I called it bullshit, then you tell me I only told my the manager at work but no one else knew, girl come the fuck on what is this cross dresser 101, you dont think that bitch told anyone....that shit might get by with some crossdressers, I mean come on now we here live real life and know things based on experience and what you say dosent add up.

First I thought maybe you were just starting out, now based on this I think your a part time crossdresser.

[NYTSJulie]

was this one of the pics when you were stealth???

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

girl I call it based on your face, that is a mans face, don’t tell me people don’t know your trans, show proof, right now snap a camera phone pic, girl this isn’t some cross dresser room, here you deal with girls who are real life and know the difference, I been on hormones for 15 yrs, I know a thing or two about transition, to tell me your stealth is bullshit. If you can’t show the phone pic then let’s see a reg pic of you outside being normal and not using the liquify filter or the brightness/contrast to filter out your male features.

Um, excuse me but where did YOU started? Wasn't having FFS and getting rid of masculine features are what most tg do? Well I haven't had that just like your FRIEND. So again, why are you jumping down my throat and not on your friend? I knew there was Shade from the very beginning (I also knew you two were chatting back and forth). It's sad that your friend is able to control and tell you what to do like you're a puppet that doesn't have a mind of her own.

You asked me questions. I answered. That didn't satisfy you..so I'm NOT going to convince you either. You can go think what you want. It's not like its going to change my past life back in MN. It's done, I've already lived it. We're not going to be living next doors and becoming friends anyways. So at this point, it doesn't really matter. You can play this game with someone else cos I sure ain't playing it. And that's being respectful and honest.

~Kisses.

HTG