Do all Transgendered females escort, or escorted?

[jjhill]

I swear this my second time getting screwed.

The first girl did porn or whateva so it wasn't a shock. The second girl, I never seen her no where. Come to find out, she's an escort to. I mean I have nothing against it, cuz i'm not forkin over any money. but cot damn.

[rockabilly]

Not all of them.

[Silcc69]

99.4% are lol.

[jjhill]

With my experience in this community for 10 yrs. I'd have to say honestly 90 percent. I know of two that don't

[raybbaby]

"Do all transgendered women escort?", no, only the pretty ones.

[peggygee]

I swear this my second time getting screwed.

The first girl did porn or whateva so it wasn't a shock. The second girl, I never seen her no where. Come to find out, she's an escort to. I mean I have nothing against it, cuz i'm not forkin over any money. but cot damn.

So when you meet a new lady, and y'all are getting to know one another,
and you ask her what does she do for a living, and you notice that she
seems to have alot of time on her hand, and her phone is always blowing
up, do you think she is selling Amway?

:)

[phobun]

I swear this my second time getting screwed.

The first girl did porn or whateva so it wasn't a shock. The second girl, I never seen her no where. Come to find out, she's an escort to. I mean I have nothing against it, cuz i'm not forkin over any money. but cot damn.

So when you meet a new lady, and y'all are getting to know one another,
and you ask her what does she do for a living, and you notice that she
seems to have alot of time on her hand, and her phone is always blowing
up, do you think she is selling Amway?

:)
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[Willie Escalade]

I know quite a lot who don't at all. They don't even do porn.

[slinky]

Where are you meeting all these girls?

[TsVanessa69]

When a girl has her OWN crib, in her own name. good credit, money in the bank and her transition is going well, when you guys go out, she doesnt beg for money, and she's always dressed nice and smelling good, why is it an issue??
If i wasnt gettin ready to take some pics I would go into greater detail, so I'll be back!

[peggygee]

I know quite a lot who don't at all. They don't even do porn.

And Willie E. knows lotsa ladies. :wink:

[peggygee]

I swear this my second time getting screwed.

The first girl did porn or whateva so it wasn't a shock. The second girl, I never seen her no where. Come to find out, she's an escort to. I mean I have nothing against it, cuz i'm not forkin over any money. but cot damn.

So when you meet a new lady, and y'all are getting to know one another,
and you ask her what does she do for a living, and you notice that she
seems to have alot of time on her hand, and her phone is always blowing
up, do you think she is selling Amway?

:)
Classic

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[BLKGSXR]

Where are you meeting all these girls?Man you dont want to know.I get a yahoo message from our famous now JJhill about this girl so I sign off my phone and onto my laptop and see that shes nice looking a week or so later he finds a link to an eros site (Stalker mode) and shows me-So I laugh my ass off. Nah jk about the last part had to spice it up a bit but...he called from a blocked line on accident and she said hey baby what you interested in and she got caught up smh for her. lol

[BLKGSXR]

dbl pst.

[TsVanessa69]

So is your problem that she escorts as a JOB or is it that she treats you like a trick?

[bridgetbbyxo]

i dont... i do it the old fashion way; working 9-5.
i have alil self respect.. cant say the same for most..

[droog]

i dont... i do it the old fashion way; working 9-5.
i have alil self respect.. cant say the same for most..
sooo then, bridget....
what's your favorite movie? favorite band? video game? are you good at cooking dinner?

..lol just playin with ya :D

[rockabilly]

Good questions droog. :)

[jimbobw2]

I swear this my second time getting screwed.

The first girl did porn or whateva so it wasn't a shock. The second girl, I never seen her no where. Come to find out, she's an escort to. I mean I have nothing against it, cuz i'm not forkin over any money. but cot damn.

cot?

[alyssats]

you for real?

most of my friends doesnt escort or even do porn films! in my place i think only 5% do escort work the rest 95% do office work

[MDM23]

Majority TS i know escort or have done in the past.

It's easy money, most are too lazy for hard work.

[phobun]

Majority TS i know escort or have done in the past.

It's easy money, most are too lazy for hard work.
These sorts of generalizations are lazy and ignorant. You need to get out more and broaden yourself.

[alyssats]

^^^ i think escorting/whoring is one of the hardest job in the world

[alyssats]

Majority TS i know escort or have done in the past.

It's easy money, most are too lazy for hard work.
These sorts of generalizations are lazy and ignorant. You need to get out more and broaden yourself.

so true try to work as an escort/whore even for just a week and youll find out the truth ill not go into details how hard, dangerous and even dirty it is. ok ill shut the fukc out now jeje

[MDM23]

LOL. I'm just giving my experiences of the girls i've known mate.

A lot of them like the fact they can go out clubbing most nights of the week taking ket, pills, etc and then fuck some schmoe for easy money the next day.

As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.

[phobun]

As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.
Don't be so dismissive. Try to imagine another career in which someone at a physical disadvantage meets a stranger privately to do something that might subject the escort to all sorts of dangers. The escort could be physically assaulted, even killed. The escort could be exposed to a disease. The escort could get tossed in jail. A competitive advantage for the escort is her beauty, which can be a financial and health strain as various procedures are pursued.

Add in the fact that an escort never knows when the phone will ring or what sort of psychopath or self-absorbed smelly fatass might be lurking on the other end of the line. The confluence of all these psychological pressures make it a potentially very difficulty line of work indeed.

EDIT: Also understand that some people escort out of desperation knowing that it is frowned upon by society, their religion and their family. Pursuing this work in spite of this is an additional potential source of stress.

[alyssats]

As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.
Don't be so dismissive. Try to imagine another career in which someone meets a stranger privately to do something that might subject the escort to all sorts of dangers. The escort could be physically assaulted, even killed. The escort could be exposed to a disease. The escort could get tossed in jail. A competitive advantage for the escort is her beauty, which can be a financial and health strain as various procedures are pursued.

Add in the fact that an escort never knows when the phone will ring or what sort of psychopath or self-absorbed smelly fatass might be lurking on the other end of the line. The confluence of all these psychological pressures make it a potentially very difficulty line of work indeed.

I was just talking with my TS friend on the phone, she said she just met a client and paid her 400Euro for one hour session but goshhh she said the client is so fucking ugly as hell, fat and stinky. Every moment or seconds with him seems like hell to her. If shes not only paying a 200US$ per day rent in a hotel she said she might ran out of the clients room already :lol:

[MDM23]

If she doesn't like it then maybe she should get another job?

400 euros for 1 hour seems like a lot of money, guess the fat fuck was desperate!

As for Phobun you talk a lot of shit mate. How many TS do u know in real life pal?

[jjhill]

Where are you meeting all these girls?

In the bronx.

[TsVanessa69]

LOL. I'm just giving my experiences of the girls i've known mate.

A lot of them like the fact they can go out clubbing most nights of the week taking ket, pills, etc and then fuck some schmoe for easy money the next day.

As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.
Try sucking a 300 pound guys 3 inch dick and then see if you say that!

[TsVanessa69]

Life as a ts sucks from birth.
Being menatally abused by your parents because they tell you you are wrong and bad because you are different sucks.
Going to school sucked as well, being made fun of or hit for being different sucks.
Trying to get a job bagging grocerys and not getting it because you are ts sucks.
Dealing with people laughing at you and talking shit to you because you are ts sucks.
Transitioning and then people still talking shit about you sucks.
Dealing with jealous ts who make your life hell sucks.
Married men wanting to be with you and keep their wives sucks
Men who will fuck you but won't go with you to McDonalds because you are ts sucks.
SOO
I am not ashamed or embarrassed that I esort.
I should get $200 to get my dick sucked.
At the end of the day, after all I went thru in my life and will go through in my life, daymn, can I not enjoy my Louis Vuitton, having good credit, my own home in MY name? Should I not have a break somewhere?
Should I not after all the shit I've had to deal with since birth, not get one happy moment out of this hell I live in called life.
Fuck what you people say about escorting.
I deserve every dollar I get, and I'm in it for me and I'm going to get mine.
The fuckkin nerve of some sorry ass bitchasses who don't know the pain and suffering some of us go thru.
Easy way out?
Nah, but ironic huh??
Don't hire me to work in your sorry ass restuarant washing dishes, but give me $100 for a blowjob in your car after you close.
The motherfuckin nerve!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

[rockabilly]

It is the worlds oldest profession.

[AmyDaly]

Nope. Never have escorted and don't plan on ever doing it.

[alyssats]

LOL. I'm just giving my experiences of the girls i've known mate.

A lot of them like the fact they can go out clubbing most nights of the week taking ket, pills, etc and then fuck some schmoe for easy money the next day.

As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.
Try sucking a 300 pound guys 3 inch dick and then see if you say that!

lol :lol:

just to add also try fucking a 300 pound stinky hairy fat balding guy and if you didnt get hard and be able to stick your cock inside his smelly ass hell give you a bad review saying youre not functional

[baileyandkc]

yeah, its that kind of scenario that makes me think it ain't worth the money lol..I guess you can pick and choose your clients, and you'd turn that one down!

still, there's gotta be a bunch that you'd like to turn down, fat and smelly, jerks, etc, etc

[trish]

It was on the government form when I signed up for transitioning.

Check one or both of the boxes below:

1) You will agree to escort;

2) You will agree to model for pornographic art or act in pornographic films.

There wasn't really any choice.

[rockabilly]

Beurocracy , who knew there would be red tape to work in the red light business.

[SarahG]

If she doesn't like it then maybe she should get another job?


Easier said then done.

Even McDonalds, yes fucking McDonalds, does background checks on their applicants in this day & age. [technically this is up to the individual franchises, not a corp policy].

So unless you changed your name BEFORE turning 18, they'll know you're trans before they get a chance to even take a look at you.

With all the stereotypes running around on HA (where presumably people are more sympathetic than the general public), about trans girls being "lazy," superficial, or damaged-goods., or all being prostitutes at some point or another.. why on earth would an employer take a chance on someone like that? Why would an employer try hiring a trans applicant when "all trans girls have worked as escorts"? They don't hire GG's with a known history in sex work. They have even less incentive to hire a trans applicant with such a history. And that's assuming there's no criminal record from repeated pros busts.

I know GG's who had worked a decade or two who are essentially unemployable. Even for min wage shit jobs, employers aren't interested. Why would they be, when they have an infinite pool of students (without the baggage, drama, or history) to hire instead?

It's not like they have to worry about discrimination law if they simply toss your application and never call you back...

So really, why would an employer want to give someone who is trans a shot?

[gargoyle]

some of the previous posts regarding clients that some providers may have to see... I believe it. Someone that I know said she was suprised i wasn't an old married guy and too cute awww maybe it's just pillow talk but i believe it.

[Teydyn]

It's easy money
No, it not easy money. Sometimes it comes in in heaps, othertimes they wait and wait and they get none the whole day.



most are too lazy for hard work.
There might be some, but many have no other choice, when they want to transition in less then 20 years, because its not easy to get a good paying job as TS.



As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.
You have obviously no clue what you are talking about.

[JamesHunt]

all the good looking hoes I've ever met are peddling their ass for money :lol:

[TsVanessa69]

LOL. I'm just giving my experiences of the girls i've known mate.

A lot of them like the fact they can go out clubbing most nights of the week taking ket, pills, etc and then fuck some schmoe for easy money the next day.

As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.
Try sucking a 300 pound guys 3 inch dick and then see if you say that!

lol :lol:

just to add also try fucking a 300 pound stinky hairy fat balding guy and if you didnt get hard and be able to stick your cock inside his smelly ass hell give you a bad review saying youre not functional
RIGHT!!
The fukkin nerve!!!!

[TsVanessa69]

some of the previous posts regarding clients that some providers may have to see... I believe it. Someone that I know said she was suprised i wasn't an old married guy and too cute awww maybe it's just pillow talk but i believe it.
Some days we get that lucky!
But 9 out of 10 times, its work, HARD work, literally.
If your dick doesnt get hard, then you are judged on 50 different sites about how you are a rip off.
Just like they post our pics, they should post theirs as well.
We are human, not dick machines.
Its humanly impossible to get hard for any and everybody that comes to see you.
And the bad hygene on these guys is crazy.

[MILANIXXX]

I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO DOES THE MOST JUDGING ON ISSUES LIKE THIS, ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN THE POSITION AS SOME OF US ARE IN.

SOMEONE WHO IS NOT TRANSGENDERED OR WHO ARE NOT TRANSITIONING WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND THAT ITS DIFFICULT FOR MANY TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE TO GET JOBS TO SUPPORT SURGERY,MONES, ETC. A LOT OF TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE ESCORT BECAUSE THE IGNORANCE MANY EMPLOYERS HAVE TOWARDS US, WHICH A LOT OF GAY INDIVIDUALS HAVE FACED AND NOW HAS BECOME MORE ACCEPTABLE SOMEWHAT. UNTIL THEN SOME OF US DON'T HAVE A CHOICE UNLESS THEY'RE AT A POINT WHERE THEY CAN "PASS" AND NOT BE DETECTED.

LUCKILY, IM IN A POSITION WHERE IVE BEEN ABLE TO "PASS" AND HAVE HAD JOBS TO SUPPORT MYSELF BUT BEFORE LOOKING THE WAY I DO NOW IVE HAD TO DO LIGHT ESCORTING JUST TO SUPPORT MYSELF. NOW THAT I OWN MY COMPANY AND DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW SOMEONE ELSE'S RULES I FEEL THE GIRLS WHO DO ESCORT SHOULD START CONSIDERING INVESTING AND STARTING A BUSINESS AND TRY TO BREAK THE STEREOTYPES WE HAVE. EVERYONE TOLD ME I COULDN'T MAKE IT, YET IVE HAD THE CHANCE TO DO IT, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER TRANSSEXUAL ENTREPRENEURS EX. ALLANAH STARR, CANDIS CANE, ETC. I LOOK UP TO THEM NO MATTER WHAT EVER PATH THEY CHOSEN TO GO, THEY HAVE NOT LET PEOPLES NEGATIVITY BRING THEM DOWN AND ARE CONTINUING TO SHOW THAT WE ALL HAVE A CHANCE AND CAN MAKE IT!!!

ANOTHER QUICK ISSUE WE HAVE IS, IF WE ALL WANT RESPECT AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE QUICK TO JUDGE US WANT US TO CHANGE OR COMMENT WHAT WE DO, BUT WHY DON'T WE START RESPECTING EACH OTHER AND TRY TO CHANGE THESE PROBLEMS LIKE ESCORTING ETC????!!!!

YES SOME RATHER ESCORT BECAUSE EASY MONEY BUT TO EACH OWN A LOT DON'T WANT TO, AND ITS ABOUT SURVIVAL NOT ABOUT WHO HAS MORE CLASS THEN THE NEXT.

THINGS WILL CHANGE WHEN WE STOP GOING AGAINST EACH OTHER AND BEING JUDGMENTAL WHEN NONE OF US..I REPEAT NONE OF US ARE IN THE POSITION TO JUDGE!!! WE ALL HAVE DONE WRONG TO OTHER PEOPLES STANDARDS

SORRY FOR VENTING LOL

[TsGiaX]

I'm not an whore

I just like rich men

*giggles*

[bridgetbbyxo]

i still believe everyone has a choice in whether they decide to compromise the basic morals every one has.
its just a matter if you have the will power to live a normal life.

[fred41]

Just going to add one more thing about the escorting that I noticed about friends of mine. Some of the escorts I've known support more people than just themselves - sometimes they are the primary supporters for their families here and in their native countries....I've seen some of these girls send large sums of money to their relatives here or back home on a continuous basis. I've even seen them buy property for their siblings or parents...some of whom might not even have treated them so well as they were growing up. They also give/lend money or gifts to friends and relatives...sometimes no questions asked.It's not something that they talk about..it just gets done. I bet some of the more critical guys , both on and off of this site, have never even thought about being as generous as some of these girls are with their hard earned gains. I've seen girls sometimes live with just the basics...so that their loved ones back home can lead decent lives.I'm not saying they all do this...but many do. Maybe some of you guys might want to think about this before you are quick to criticize.

...and if they want to occasionaly buy (or have it bought for them in a work related situation..lol) a handbag or shoes cause it makes them feel good...then power to them.

[fred41]

..Oh..and do they all escort? Of course not....but I'm willing to bet that a high percentage of the hot ones either escort or work in the adult industry...especially the ones that you/we fantacize about as you/we type up questions creating threads like this.

[MrF]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

[kalina]

"Do all transgendered women escort?", no, only the pretty ones.

I beg to differ. If you went to college and graduate school, make six figures, and you're still pretty, you don't need to escort.

[drock]

LOL. I'm just giving my experiences of the girls i've known mate.

A lot of them like the fact they can go out clubbing most nights of the week taking ket, pills, etc and then fuck some schmoe for easy money the next day.

As for saying escorting is one of the hardest jobs in the world get a grip.
Try sucking a 300 pound guys 3 inch dick and then see if you say that!


LOL

[phobun]

"Do all transgendered women escort?", no, only the pretty ones.

I beg to differ. If you went to college and graduate school, make six figures, and you're still pretty, you don't need to escort.
Exactly. The people who only see transsexuals as prostitutes are the insular sort who live very mundane and narrow lives. They are often of either two flavors: closeted queers who seek out tgirl escorts on the down-low because of a cock fetish, or they are themselves very poorly educated and caught up within the confines of a lower-end social existence.

[rockabilly]

Hmmm that's an inch per 100 pound ... soo when he hits 700 he can give you a 7 incher lol ... of course you'd need to go to his place. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MILANIXXX]

THIS CAN BE VERY SIMPLE.....DON'T JUDGE OR MAKE COMMENTS UNTIL YOUR IN THAT POSITION AND UNDERSTAND WHAT MANY TRANSSEXUAL WOMEN GO THROUGH. UNTIL WE START HELPING THE SITUATION BEFORE COMMENTING AND JUDGING NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE!!!!

[Bunzee]

NOW THAT I OWN MY COMPANY

what kind of business is it? is it doing well? :)

[MILANIXXX]

NOW THAT I OWN MY COMPANY

what kind of business is it? is it doing well? :)

I DO MEDIA STUFF RIGHT NOW WE WORKING ON A MAGAZINE BUT FIRST WILL BE HOSTED AS A ONLINE CONCEPT AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS I WORK WITH...I HAVE A POSTING MAYBE YOU CAN ADD A FEEDBACK TO IT I WOULD APPRECAITE IT:)

IDK HOW TO FIND IT BUT IF U PUT MAGAZINE UNDER SEARCH YOULL FIND IT p:)

[Bunzee]

so is your business making you enough money to live on?

[MILANIXXX]

so is your business making you enough money to live on?

WELL I WORK FULLTIME ALSO SO THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO NOT WORK AT ALL SO SOON BUT FOR NOW YOU HAVE TO HUSTLE..THATS WHY I NEVER KNOCK SOMEONES HUSTLE..!!! DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO!!!

[kalina]

"Do all transgendered women escort?", no, only the pretty ones.

I beg to differ. If you went to college and graduate school, make six figures, and you're still pretty, you don't need to escort.
Exactly. The people who only see transsexuals as prostitutes are the insular sort who live very mundane and narrow lives. They are often of either two flavors: closeted queers who seek out tgirl escorts on the down-low because of a cock fetish, or they are themselves very poorly educated and caught up within the confines of a lower-end social existence.

A very astute observation! I agree.

For what it's worth, I'm an IT Director for my department at a university. I have a side business selling books and makeover services. I also collect royalty checks for my music from BMI. All legit. All taxable income. And, yes, I was referring to myself with the college, graduate school, etc :)

Plus, I have a lot of fun hosting my parties for part-time and full-time tgirls and their friends, lovers, and admirers.

[MILANIXXX]

"Do all transgendered women escort?", no, only the pretty ones.

I beg to differ. If you went to college and graduate school, make six figures, and you're still pretty, you don't need to escort.
Exactly. The people who only see transsexuals as prostitutes are the insular sort who live very mundane and narrow lives. They are often of either two flavors: closeted queers who seek out tgirl escorts on the down-low because of a cock fetish, or they are themselves very poorly educated and caught up within the confines of a lower-end social existence.

A very astute observation! I agree.

For what it's worth, I'm an IT Director for my department at a university. I have a side business selling books and makeover services. I also collect royalty checks for my music from BMI. All legit. All taxable income. And, yes, I was referring to myself with the college, graduate school, etc :)

Plus, I have a lot of fun hosting my parties for part-time and full-time tgirls and their friends, lovers, and admirers.


ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW YOU, IM VERY HAPPY FOR YOU AND KEEP STRIVING TO BREAK THE BARRIER EVEN MORE THEN YOU HAVE ALREADY. HOPEFULLY MORE OF US WILL FINALLY REALIZE THAT THERE'S MORE TO LIFE AND SUCCESS, BESIDES WHAT PEOPLE THINK WE ONLY GOOD FOR!!!

[Bunzee]

For what it's worth, I'm an IT Director for my department at a university. I have a side business selling books and makeover services. I also collect royalty checks for my music from BMI. All legit. All taxable income. And, yes, I was referring to myself with the college, graduate school, etc :)



had a question ... has taking hormones affected at all your ability to do your job, think critically and being mentally sharp? just curious ...

[MDM23]

To all the escorts complaining about smelly clients, why don't u tell the cunts to go take a shower before u fuck them??

Still surprised people think escorting is "one of the hardest jobs in the world".

Mate of mine was wounded in Afghanistan, try telling him being an escort is a harder job LOL!

[peggygee]

For what it's worth, I'm an IT Director for my department at a university. I have a side business selling books and makeover services. I also collect royalty checks for my music from BMI. All legit. All taxable income. And, yes, I was referring to myself with the college, graduate school, etc :)



had a question ... has taking hormones affected at all your ability to do your job, think critically and being mentally sharp? just curious ...

Perhaps you were directing this question to Kalina or the board in
general.

I will say that for me, my HRT regimen does not negatively impact
my cognitive functioning, my emotions or affect, or ability to
perform daily tasks, including but not limited to going to work on a
daily basis.

[Distance]

i still believe everyone has a choice in whether they decide to compromise the basic morals every one has.
its just a matter if you have the will power to live a normal life.

Sounds like a really fair opinion.



I don't get why some complain about being a prostitute, putting up with the dirtiest,nastiest scumbags on the planet...you have a choice...especially if one has escorted for years. But I guess the quick money will over run some people's morals and self respect.

[kalina]

For what it's worth, I'm an IT Director for my department at a university. I have a side business selling books and makeover services. I also collect royalty checks for my music from BMI. All legit. All taxable income. And, yes, I was referring to myself with the college, graduate school, etc :)



had a question ... has taking hormones affected at all your ability to do your job, think critically and being mentally sharp? just curious ...

No, and if it did, it has affected me perhaps 1% at most. There are many myths surrounding hormones and I've written lots of articles that dispel those myths. For example, some will claim that hormones affect strength. I've been on hormones since April 2003, I'm 5'7-1/4", 129 pounds, and up until my recent bout with pneumonia could still lift someone who was 200 pounds. Any tgirl who claims she's on hormones and lost strength probably lost strength because she no longer works out as intensively as before or doesn't want to lift heavy weights so her arm size can decrease or maybe she's just lazy.

[shemale-411]

Not all TS are escorts, and for those that are by choice, more power to them. As for the guys being judgemental, I'm sure if someone would actually pay you for sex, you would change your tune. :P

http://www.hulu.com/watch/3514/saturday-night-live-fred-garvin-male-prostitute

[MrsKellyPierce]

If more men offered to be sugar daddies less escorting LMAO :)

[Teydyn]

Still surprised people think escorting is "one of the hardest jobs in the world".
Mate of mine was wounded in Afghanistan, try telling him being an escort is a harder job LOL!
Right, being a soldier in afghanistan is your usual 9-5 job. So comparing that to escorting leads to the valid conclusion that escorting is easy... get a real.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Hmmm that's an inch per 100 pound ... soo when he hits 700 he can give you a 7 incher lol ... of course you'd need to go to his place. :lol: :lol: :lol: LOL!!!!!!

[MrsKellyPierce]

Still surprised people think escorting is "one of the hardest jobs in the world".
Mate of mine was wounded in Afghanistan, try telling him being an escort is a harder job LOL!
Right, being a soldier in afghanistan is your usual 9-5 job. So comparing that to escorting leads to the valid conclusion that escorting is easy... get a real. I love soldiers they sign up for my site :)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Still surprised people think escorting is "one of the hardest jobs in the world".
Mate of mine was wounded in Afghanistan, try telling him being an escort is a harder job LOL!
Right, being a soldier in afghanistan is your usual 9-5 job. So comparing that to escorting leads to the valid conclusion that escorting is easy... get a real. I love soldiers they sign up for my site :)

[kalina]

If more men offered to be sugar daddies less escorting LMAO :)

Much truth to this! :)

[Distance]

Not all TS are escorts, and for those that are by choice, more power to them. As for the guys being judgemental, I'm sure if someone would actually pay you for sex, you would change your tune. :P

http://www.hulu.com/watch/3514/saturday-night-live-fred-garvin-male-prostitute

There is being judgemental and simply being honest. I never paid for sex and never will, it's just not in me. As for trying it, as in being paid for it...oh yeah, I suppose it's as tempting as one offering free hard drugs.'Try it, you sure will like it'. :roll:

[MrsKellyPierce]

If more men offered to be sugar daddies less escorting LMAO :)

Much truth to this! :) :lol: whats wrong with being an old fashion girl? I thought men were supposed to provide for the women...and the woman cooks cleans and has sex with you upon request lol

[rockabilly]

If more men offered to be sugar daddies less escorting LMAO :)

Much truth to this! :) :lol: whats wrong with being an old fashion girl? I thought men were supposed to provide for the women...and the woman cooks cleans and has sex with you upon request lol
Sign me up. :D

[MrsKellyPierce]

If more men offered to be sugar daddies less escorting LMAO :)

Much truth to this! :) :lol: whats wrong with being an old fashion girl? I thought men were supposed to provide for the women...and the woman cooks cleans and has sex with you upon request lol
Sign me up. :D Hey I am a southern girl..thats how I was raised :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[rockabilly]

I'm a southern gentleman Miss Kelly. Where are you from ... originally ?

[MrsKellyPierce]

I'm a southern gentleman Miss Kelly. Where are you from ... originally ? Louisiana :)

[rockabilly]

I'm in South Carolina. :)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Thats where Olivia Love is from

[rockabilly]

I know , she told me awhile back. :)
She's a nice lady.

[fred41]

Still surprised people think escorting is "one of the hardest jobs in the world".
Mate of mine was wounded in Afghanistan, try telling him being an escort is a harder job LOL!
Right, being a soldier in afghanistan is your usual 9-5 job. So comparing that to escorting leads to the valid conclusion that escorting is easy... get a real.

I agree its not a valid comparison, but since he brought it up - I know ts escorts who were raped , physically assaulted,robbed, arrested and abused in prison..and sometimes left for dead. All that and not usually having the time to get counseling their whole life like you're average "civilian". they just have to "shake it off" sometimes and go on . I'd say that all that makes a pretty god-damned tough individual. Some soldiers probably couldn't handle that shit.

[MDM23]

So now you're saying TS escorts are tougher than soldiers??

Fuck, we should send these super soldiers off to the front line to sort out these Taleban fucks! Great idea mate!

[fred41]

So now you're saying TS escorts are tougher than soldiers??

Fuck, we should send these super soldiers off to the front line to sort out these Taleban fucks! Great idea mate!

I didn't say that. I said that it wasn't a valid comparison...but since you brought it up..I figure I'd give it a shot. You can't really compare the two jobs just like you can't really compare the individuals that make up the job.While I respect what soldiers do..i know plenty of soldiers who aren't tough at all. they just put their time in , for different personal reasons..and got out. Some are tough..some aren't. Some are at the front lines...and some never fought a battle in their lives.

On a lighter note..the latina ts escorts I know (and love) are pretty bad-ass. They could probably kick some Taliban ass if they wanted to...lol.

...but the toughness i was referring to is more psychological than physical. People are more complicated than the simple characterizations that you want to make.

[SarahG]

So now you're saying TS escorts are tougher than soldiers??

Fuck, we should send these super soldiers off to the front line to sort out these Taleban fucks! Great idea mate!

Well, if they got rid of don't ask, and then allowed trans people to serve in the military (ATM genital modifications of any kind is an auto-disqualifier... at least on paper, they don't enforce that for guys who have been circumcised), and then extended their health care to cover trans medical costs... I think you'd be surprised how many trans people wouldn't have a problem serving in the military.

Most of the trans people that I've seen online with a military background left because it was the only way they could fully transition. If things were more open minded, they'd have never left.

[MDM23]

Yeh I know what u mean mate, was just taking the piss a little :-D

[MILANIXXX]

I THINK NOONES JOB IS BETTER THEN THE NEXT...THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE SAFETY AND OF COURSE INCOME, BUT ALOT OF JOBS ARE RISKIER THEN SOME AND SOME ARE MORE BORING THEN THE NEXT. WE ALL WORK TO LIVE AND SUPPORT FAMILY AND OURSELF, ITS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT WHICH WILL DETEMINE IF ITS AWARDING ENOUGH TO STAY WITH IT. ITS A RISK FACTOR WITH BOTH ESCORTING AND WORKING IN MARINES, NAVY, ETC, SO BOTH ARE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO DO, JUST BECAUSE A HUSTLE IS A HUSTLE ... ITS STILL A JOB!!!!

LAST NOTE: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE ALWAYS WANT TO LABEL SOMETHING,JUDGE, AND OR TRY TO MAKE ONE BETTER THEN THE NEXT. WHEN DO PEOPLE REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT IF IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU THEN WHY CARE?

[Distance]

So now you're saying TS escorts are tougher than soldiers??

Fuck, we should send these super soldiers off to the front line to sort out these Taleban fucks! Great idea mate!

Well, if they got rid of don't ask, and then allowed trans people to serve in the military (ATM genital modifications of any kind is an auto-disqualifier... at least on paper, they don't enforce that for guys who have been circumcised), and then extended their health care to cover trans medical costs... I think you'd be surprised how many trans people wouldn't have a problem serving in the military.

Most of the trans people that I've seen online with a military background left because it was the only way they could fully transition. If things were more open minded, they'd have never left.

Of course they would not...the army is full of men, it's dream land for women - and gay men too. Don't say that doesn't count. :lol:

[MrsKellyPierce]

Not all girls that escort have sex with their clients.. when I escorted I did dancing for money...no sex...and/or go on dates with the person no sex...I have spoken to men for an hour or two for a sum of 600 to 1000 dollars for no sex FYI

I don't believe every girl that escorts has sex. A majority do, but I think there is exceptions to every rule.

I've had guys donate money towards surgeries, clothes, shoes, and more that I never met before in my life.

I only talked to online.

So again there is exceptions to every rule!

[MILANIXXX]

Not all girls that escort have sex with their clients.. when I escorted I did dancing for money...no sex...and/or go on dates with the person no sex...I have spoken to men for an hour or two for a sum of 600 to 1000 dollars for no sex FYI

I don't believe every girl that escorts has sex. A majority do, but I think there is exceptions to every rule.

I've had guys donate money towards surgeries, clothes, shoes, and more that I never met before in my life.

I only talked to online.

So again there is exceptions to every rule!

IM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WHEN I DID IT AT THE TIME WHEN IT WAS GOOD...I NEVER HAD SEX WITH THEM I GOT PAID A LOT OF MONEY TO JUST HANG OUT A LOT OF THE TIMES ..OR GUYS WOULD TAKE ME SHOPPING ETC...NOW IS WHERE THEY WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH PEOPLE BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO A LOT OF CLIENTS DON'T REALLY ACT FUNNY IF YOU SAY NO

[MrsKellyPierce]

Not all girls that escort have sex with their clients.. when I escorted I did dancing for money...no sex...and/or go on dates with the person no sex...I have spoken to men for an hour or two for a sum of 600 to 1000 dollars for no sex FYI

I don't believe every girl that escorts has sex. A majority do, but I think there is exceptions to every rule.

I've had guys donate money towards surgeries, clothes, shoes, and more that I never met before in my life.

I only talked to online.

So again there is exceptions to every rule!

IM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WHEN I DID IT AT THE TIME WHEN IT WAS GOOD...I NEVER HAD SEX WITH THEM I GOT PAID A LOT OF MONEY TO JUST HANG OUT A LOT OF THE TIMES ..OR GUYS WOULD TAKE ME SHOPPING ETC...NOW IS WHERE THEY WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH PEOPLE BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO A LOT OF CLIENTS DON'T REALLY ACT FUNNY IF YOU SAY NO yeah I have been taken shopping as well...and never did anything sexual.

I had sex with 7 guys total during my escorting time for a 1000 dollars each which paid for my breast.

After that I realized I didn't have to have sex to get 300 to a 1000 dollars I could just dance or talk to them.

And before guys think I scammed guys online for money.. they offered. I didn't ask for it. It was of their own free will after talking to them for a short matter of time. I honestly think they are just generous men that try to help transsexual girls. I know many men that have paid for girls surgeries and never met them in person just to help them. For whatever reason..it's their money their choice.

So hate as you wish :)

I am unashamed.

[slinky]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed.

[MILANIXXX]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed.


I AGREE WITH SLINKY LOL

[MrsKellyPierce]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed. I agree and that doesn't count the many genetic women that escort in a different way...they are attractive and use their vaginas to get a rich man to be on his arm to make him look good. And she really has no real feelings for him just his money. That to me is the same thing as prostitution......But whatever ;) thats just my two cents.

[gargoyle]

I agree with MilaniXXX, I think while a job may be a big part of your life it's not what defines you as a person.

And yes I think providing services must be difficult... I mean from my own experience, I think working in finance as a trader can at times yes be hard but I do it only for the money cause i hate the work. So then you can ask why don't I quit.. well it provides the most compensation for my time and I'm good at it... and if you got it... flaunt it.....

I'm not saying it's the same as some other jobs that other people may have but it's the path I find myself in either through choice or necessity.

[Distance]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed. I agree and that doesn't count the many genetic women that escort in a different way...they are attractive and use their vaginas to get a rich man to be on his arm to make him look good. And she really has no real feelings for him just his money. That to me is the same thing as prostitution......But whatever ;) thats just my two cents.

It isn't to me. Any woman can be attracted to a man for money partly or totally, true, but it's also part of a security thing. Now, that's not the same as satisfying anonymous men and their sexual desires, time and time again for money.



I have read of so very few women on this forum that don't escort...cannot come up with twisted figures, and it is not my intention anyway. We also read of a lot of women here saying they are not accepted in society, and they all seem to genuinely wonder why.


I think the bottom line is that the very vast majority of ts women do resort to porn and prostitution, whatever the true reasons. And that sticks hard to how society perceives these women. Sad, but true.

[MrsKellyPierce]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed. I agree and that doesn't count the many genetic women that escort in a different way...they are attractive and use their vaginas to get a rich man to be on his arm to make him look good. And she really has no real feelings for him just his money. That to me is the same thing as prostitution......But whatever ;) thats just my two cents.

It isn't to me. Any woman can be attracted to a man for money partly or totally, true, but it's also part of a security thing. Now, that's not the same as satisfying anonymous men and their sexual desires, time and time again for money.



I have read of so very few women on this forum that don't escort...cannot come up with twisted figures, and it is not my intention anyway. We also read of a lot of women here saying they are not accepted in society, and they all seem to genuinely wonder why.


I think the bottom line is that the very vast majority of ts women do resort to porn and prostitution, whatever the true reasons. And that sticks hard to how society perceives these women. Sad, but true. I did porn for the fast money for transition. I didn't want to be 35 still working a 9 to 5 job waiting for breast and facial surgeries. I made the choice and I accept that. Despite my porn career etc I am a honest and good person. I know a lot of 9 to 5 workers that aren't.......just my two cents again.

[MILANIXXX]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed. I agree and that doesn't count the many genetic women that escort in a different way...they are attractive and use their vaginas to get a rich man to be on his arm to make him look good. And she really has no real feelings for him just his money. That to me is the same thing as prostitution......But whatever ;) thats just my two cents.

It isn't to me. Any woman can be attracted to a man for money partly or totally, true, but it's also part of a security thing. Now, that's not the same as satisfying anonymous men and their sexual desires, time and time again for money.



I have read of so very few women on this forum that don't escort...cannot come up with twisted figures, and it is not my intention anyway. We also read of a lot of women here saying they are not accepted in society, and they all seem to genuinely wonder why.


I think the bottom line is that the very vast majority of ts women do resort to porn and prostitution, whatever the true reasons. And that sticks hard to how society perceives these women. Sad, but true.


A LOT OF US AREN'T ACCEPTED DUE TO THE IGNORANT AND THE JUDGMENTAL PEOPLE IN SOCIETY, WHICH LEAVES MANY LEFT WITH NOTHING ELSE TO DO. YOU HAVE TO FEED YOURSELF SOME HOW!!!

MANY OTHERS WHO FACE JUDGMENT LIKE GAY PEOPLE,WHO HAVE HAD AND STILL HAVE THERE SHARE IN NOT BEING ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY, HAS ALSO HAD TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET BY AND SUPPORT THEM SELF BY ONLY BEING ABLE TO HANG IN THE VILLAGE OR WORK AT GAY CLUBS ONLY ETC BUT HOW MUCH CAN YOU REALLY MAKE? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S NO MORE POSITIONS LEFT AND FEW GAY ORGANIZATIONS ?..

[gargoyle]

some of the previous posts regarding clients that some providers may have to see... I believe it. Someone that I know said she was suprised i wasn't an old married guy and too cute awww maybe it's just pillow talk but i believe it.
Some days we get that lucky!
But 9 out of 10 times, its work, HARD work, literally.
If your dick doesnt get hard, then you are judged on 50 different sites about how you are a rip off.
Just like they post our pics, they should post theirs as well.
We are human, not dick machines.
Its humanly impossible to get hard for any and everybody that comes to see you.
And the bad hygene on these guys is crazy.

yep i'm that 1 out of 10 situation where it's not work haha

[Distance]

Never said you weren't. :wink:


I was just talking of social acceptance.

[Distance]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed. I agree and that doesn't count the many genetic women that escort in a different way...they are attractive and use their vaginas to get a rich man to be on his arm to make him look good. And she really has no real feelings for him just his money. That to me is the same thing as prostitution......But whatever ;) thats just my two cents.

It isn't to me. Any woman can be attracted to a man for money partly or totally, true, but it's also part of a security thing. Now, that's not the same as satisfying anonymous men and their sexual desires, time and time again for money.



I have read of so very few women on this forum that don't escort...cannot come up with twisted figures, and it is not my intention anyway. We also read of a lot of women here saying they are not accepted in society, and they all seem to genuinely wonder why.


I think the bottom line is that the very vast majority of ts women do resort to porn and prostitution, whatever the true reasons. And that sticks hard to how society perceives these women. Sad, but true.


A LOT OF US AREN'T ACCEPTED DUE TO THE IGNORANT AND THE JUDGMENTAL PEOPLE IN SOCIETY, WHICH LEAVES MANY LEFT WITH NOTHING ELSE TO DO. YOU HAVE TO FEED YOURSELF SOME HOW!!!

MANY OTHERS WHO FACE JUDGMENT LIKE GAY PEOPLE,WHO HAVE HAD AND STILL HAVE THERE SHARE IN NOT BEING ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY, HAS ALSO HAD TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET BY AND SUPPORT THEM SELF BY ONLY BEING ABLE TO HANG IN THE VILLAGE OR WORK AT GAY CLUBS ONLY ETC BUT HOW MUCH CAN YOU REALLY MAKE? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S NO MORE POSITIONS LEFT AND FEW GAY ORGANIZATIONS ?..


I don't buy this, sorry. I believe one can work from home as well, and make a very comfortable living...if facing everyday life is so hard. Gay men, lesbians ts women are as clever as heteros if not sometimes more! You paint yourself as part of a grim ghetto, and I do honestly believe it can be undone.

[MILANIXXX]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed. I agree and that doesn't count the many genetic women that escort in a different way...they are attractive and use their vaginas to get a rich man to be on his arm to make him look good. And she really has no real feelings for him just his money. That to me is the same thing as prostitution......But whatever ;) thats just my two cents.

It isn't to me. Any woman can be attracted to a man for money partly or totally, true, but it's also part of a security thing. Now, that's not the same as satisfying anonymous men and their sexual desires, time and time again for money.



I have read of so very few women on this forum that don't escort...cannot come up with twisted figures, and it is not my intention anyway. We also read of a lot of women here saying they are not accepted in society, and they all seem to genuinely wonder why.


I think the bottom line is that the very vast majority of ts women do resort to porn and prostitution, whatever the true reasons. And that sticks hard to how society perceives these women. Sad, but true.


A LOT OF US AREN'T ACCEPTED DUE TO THE IGNORANT AND THE JUDGMENTAL PEOPLE IN SOCIETY, WHICH LEAVES MANY LEFT WITH NOTHING ELSE TO DO. YOU HAVE TO FEED YOURSELF SOME HOW!!!

MANY OTHERS WHO FACE JUDGMENT LIKE GAY PEOPLE,WHO HAVE HAD AND STILL HAVE THERE SHARE IN NOT BEING ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY, HAS ALSO HAD TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET BY AND SUPPORT THEM SELF BY ONLY BEING ABLE TO HANG IN THE VILLAGE OR WORK AT GAY CLUBS ONLY ETC BUT HOW MUCH CAN YOU REALLY MAKE? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S NO MORE POSITIONS LEFT AND FEW GAY ORGANIZATIONS ?..


I don't buy this, sorry. I believe one can work from home as well, and make a very comfortable living...if facing everyday life is so hard. Gay men, lesbians ts women are as clever as heteros if not sometimes more! You paint yourself as part of a grim ghetto, and I do honestly believe it can be undone.


I KNOW OF BEEN AT THE POINT WHERE I WAS A "SPOOK" AND COULDN'T MANAGE IN A OFFICE OR RETAIL JOB...BUT YOU TELL ME WHAT CAN BE DONE AT HOME TO GENERATE INCOME FOR YOUR TRANSITION AND SUPPORTING YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY??? ONLINE HOME BUSINESS OFFERS FROM THE INTERNET???

BTW ARE YOU A TRANSITING??

I THINK ANYONE WHO IS NOT OR UNDERSTAND WHAT WE GO THROUGH WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND SO OF COURSE YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO "BUY", UNTIL YOU'VE DONE IT AND FIGURED OUT WHAT WORKS FOR YOU AND WHAT DOESN'T.


MY CUZIN TOLD ME ONE TIME, WHEN I WAS HOMELESS AND TRANSITING WHICH WAS 2 YEARS AGO. THAT IF SHE WAS IN THAT PREDICAMENT SHE WOULD GET A JOB AND NOT BE THAT WAY!!!!!

NO THE WORD IS "IF SHE WAS"!!!!

NOONE WILL EVER UNDERSTAND HOW TO FIGHT AND OVERCOME THIS LIFESTYLE UNTIL YOUR IN IT, WALK IN OUR SHOES AND THEN BE ABLE TO TELL ME IF YOU CAN SUPPORT YOURSELF,BECAUSE ITS NO WALK IN THE PARK!!!

[Distance]

Hey. I am not against you, or anyone here for that matter. I am just saying it as I see it. No point having an open discussion if it is to say we will never understand each other, otherwise it better be a monologue. :lol:


Yep, online home business, no crappy selling, no pyramid horrors or whatever scams...some online businesses can generate enormous income. And I did not mean to offend you. Please be aware that I am sure you do and did suffer a LOT, and I have the utmost respect for people with a drive, in spite of hard to overcome, constant social barriers.

[MILANIXXX]

Hey. I am not against you, or anyone here for that matter. I am just saying it as I see it. No point having an open discussion if it is to say we will never understand each other, otherwise it better be a monologue. :lol:


Yep, online home business, no crappy selling, no pyramid horrors or whatever scams...some online businesses can generate enormous income. And I did not mean to offend you. Please be aware that I am sure you do and did suffer a LOT, and I have the utmost respect for people with a drive, in spite of hard to overcome, constant social barriers.

OH NO HUN, SOMETIMES I TYPE IN A AGGRESSIVE MANOR WHEN I FEEL SSTRONG ABOUT THE SUBJECT LOL ...NO I WAS JUST TRYING TO EXPRESS HOW I FELT ABOUT THAT COMMENT..BUT NO HUN ITS COOL :)

[IMISSHER]

a lot of valid points. but the underlying theme here is it a hard dirty business. i see it also very addictive. my situation is where she asked to be her partner and live with her. now i truly love this girl. we talked about this in length. when she said it would be perfect and that did i mind if she still saw some clients. i realized then she had no idea of the concept of true love. now i know this girl loves me, she has proved it many times. but when i explained to her that it would be one on one she truly could not believe why,. she said that i would benefit from money that she makes.. i said how in GODS name would i be with her and let her sleep with men for money. she was so upset when i said no to the arrangement. i said i love u and want to build a life with her, she still said but i can make us so much money. with that i said goodbye. she is so addicted to the money and lifestyle. it s sad but a reality i guess. why girls? its seems so many feel destined to this life forever even when they dont have to. i said we would be man and wife in every sense pf the word and that my respect and love for her and for each other rises above anything else. i hope one day she realizes it. im waiting baby.

[eclipsemint]

A few years ago I would go to gay bars to meet TGirls and I was always surprised that basically all of them escorted. So I made my own rough estimate of the percentages in the population and found it was between 3 and 15 %. Perhaps most of the pretty ones, as another guy said.

It's simple math. From eros and CL we can see that about 25% of escorts are TGirls. The fraction of GGirls who escort is thought to be 0.023 % in the USA, and the fraction of males who experience gender dysphoria (i.e. are TGirls) is between 1-in-500 and 1-in-2500. The latter is the most uncertain ingredient. Doing the math we get 3 to 15 %.

An example to show the math: Suppose 1 in 1000 males are TGirls, and 1 in 4 escorts are TGirls. Then TGirls are 250 times more likely to become escorts as GGirls. Multiply 250 by 0.023% to get 5.8 % in this example.

So, roughly 3 to 15% of young adult TG; of course for older TG the percentage would drop . Maybe someone has better info ?

I think your math is seriously flawed. I agree and that doesn't count the many genetic women that escort in a different way...they are attractive and use their vaginas to get a rich man to be on his arm to make him look good. And she really has no real feelings for him just his money. That to me is the same thing as prostitution......But whatever ;) thats just my two cents.

It isn't to me. Any woman can be attracted to a man for money partly or totally, true, but it's also part of a security thing. Now, that's not the same as satisfying anonymous men and their sexual desires, time and time again for money.



I have read of so very few women on this forum that don't escort...cannot come up with twisted figures, and it is not my intention anyway. We also read of a lot of women here saying they are not accepted in society, and they all seem to genuinely wonder why.


I think the bottom line is that the very vast majority of ts women do resort to porn and prostitution, whatever the true reasons. And that sticks hard to how society perceives these women. Sad, but true.


A LOT OF US AREN'T ACCEPTED DUE TO THE IGNORANT AND THE JUDGMENTAL PEOPLE IN SOCIETY, WHICH LEAVES MANY LEFT WITH NOTHING ELSE TO DO. YOU HAVE TO FEED YOURSELF SOME HOW!!!

MANY OTHERS WHO FACE JUDGMENT LIKE GAY PEOPLE,WHO HAVE HAD AND STILL HAVE THERE SHARE IN NOT BEING ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY, HAS ALSO HAD TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET BY AND SUPPORT THEM SELF BY ONLY BEING ABLE TO HANG IN THE VILLAGE OR WORK AT GAY CLUBS ONLY ETC BUT HOW MUCH CAN YOU REALLY MAKE? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S NO MORE POSITIONS LEFT AND FEW GAY ORGANIZATIONS ?..


I don't buy this, sorry. I believe one can work from home as well, and make a very comfortable living...if facing everyday life is so hard. Gay men, lesbians ts women are as clever as heteros if not sometimes more! You paint yourself as part of a grim ghetto, and I do honestly believe it can be undone.


I KNOW OF BEEN AT THE POINT WHERE I WAS A "SPOOK" AND COULDN'T MANAGE IN A OFFICE OR RETAIL JOB...BUT YOU TELL ME WHAT CAN BE DONE AT HOME TO GENERATE INCOME FOR YOUR TRANSITION AND SUPPORTING YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY??? ONLINE HOME BUSINESS OFFERS FROM THE INTERNET???

BTW ARE YOU A TRANSITING??

I THINK ANYONE WHO IS NOT OR UNDERSTAND WHAT WE GO THROUGH WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND SO OF COURSE YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO "BUY", UNTIL YOU'VE DONE IT AND FIGURED OUT WHAT WORKS FOR YOU AND WHAT DOESN'T.


MY CUZIN TOLD ME ONE TIME, WHEN I WAS HOMELESS AND TRANSITING WHICH WAS 2 YEARS AGO. THAT IF SHE WAS IN THAT PREDICAMENT SHE WOULD GET A JOB AND NOT BE THAT WAY!!!!!

NO THE WORD IS "IF SHE WAS"!!!!

NOONE WILL EVER UNDERSTAND HOW TO FIGHT AND OVERCOME THIS LIFESTYLE UNTIL YOUR IN IT, WALK IN OUR SHOES AND THEN BE ABLE TO TELL ME IF YOU CAN SUPPORT YOURSELF,BECAUSE ITS NO WALK IN THE PARK!!!

I just wanted to see how many shells we could add to this quote box...

Anyway, it's not just tg women who escort and get addicted to the sex or fast money. I saw on tv last night, that one of the most common causes of cheating that private investigators investigate, is the instances where a husband suspects his wife is having an affair, and the PI discovers the wife or partner is actually working at a brothel in secret.

The only close encounters I have had with transsexual women has been with prostitutes at a brothel, so you could not fault me for having the impression that all transsexuals escort. Transsexuals in real life tend to be more in stealth, or more guarded against "tranny chasers", more difficult to engage with.

[kalina]

Not all girls that escort have sex with their clients.. when I escorted I did dancing for money...no sex...and/or go on dates with the person no sex...I have spoken to men for an hour or two for a sum of 600 to 1000 dollars for no sex FYI

I don't believe every girl that escorts has sex. A majority do, but I think there is exceptions to every rule.

I've had guys donate money towards surgeries, clothes, shoes, and more that I never met before in my life.

I only talked to online.

So again there is exceptions to every rule!

I believe a lot of guys are possibly transgender themselves and need to understand this aspect of themselves, so they seek out girls who have gone all the way with their transition so they can almost live their lives through them by talking to them and doing things with them. The shopping trips are a case in point. Either they themselves wish they were femme and beautiful enough to be a girl shopping for clothes or else they never took anyone so gorgeous out on a shopping trip. The last guy I went out with in a relationship capacity liked taking me out everywhere and showing me off because his wife was a frumpy librarian. Secretly, I always felt he was a crossdresser and I was right when he asked if he could try on one of my bodyhugging dresses. I said, "You'll be sorry" but he proceeded anyway and he ended up looking like a wrapped sausage. "I'm never trying that again," he said. From them on, he appreciated me even more.

[alyssats]

Not all girls that escort have sex with their clients.. when I escorted I did dancing for money...no sex...and/or go on dates with the person no sex...I have spoken to men for an hour or two for a sum of 600 to 1000 dollars for no sex FYI

I don't believe every girl that escorts has sex. A majority do, but I think there is exceptions to every rule.

I've had guys donate money towards surgeries, clothes, shoes, and more that I never met before in my life.

I only talked to online.

So again there is exceptions to every rule!

I believe a lot of guys are possibly transgender themselves and need to understand this aspect of themselves, so they seek out girls who have gone all the way with their transition so they can almost live their lives through them by talking to them and doing things with them. The shopping trips are a case in point. Either they themselves wish they were femme and beautiful enough to be a girl shopping for clothes or else they never took anyone so gorgeous out on a shopping trip. The last guy I went out with in a relationship capacity liked taking me out everywhere and showing me off because his wife was a frumpy librarian. Secretly, I always felt he was a crossdresser and I was right when he asked if he could try on one of my bodyhugging dresses. I said, "You'll be sorry" but he proceeded anyway and he ended up looking like a wrapped sausage. "I'm never trying that again," he said. From them on, he appreciated me even more.


actually a big percentage of ts escort girls clients are closet crossdressers and even here in the forum i know many of them are :wink:

by the way i have no problem with crossdressers at all sometimes i even like sissyfying my clients lol :lol:

[alyssats]

some of the previous posts regarding clients that some providers may have to see... I believe it. Someone that I know said she was suprised i wasn't an old married guy and too cute awww maybe it's just pillow talk but i believe it.
Some days we get that lucky!
But 9 out of 10 times, its work, HARD work, literally.
If your dick doesnt get hard, then you are judged on 50 different sites about how you are a rip off.
Just like they post our pics, they should post theirs as well.
We are human, not dick machines.
Its humanly impossible to get hard for any and everybody that comes to see you.
And the bad hygene on these guys is crazy.

yep i'm that 1 out of 10 situation where it's not work haha

any pics of you baby boy? maybe youre such a cutie and delicious uhmmm me likey

[gargoyle]

some of the previous posts regarding clients that some providers may have to see... I believe it. Someone that I know said she was suprised i wasn't an old married guy and too cute awww maybe it's just pillow talk but i believe it.
Some days we get that lucky!
But 9 out of 10 times, its work, HARD work, literally.
If your dick doesnt get hard, then you are judged on 50 different sites about how you are a rip off.
Just like they post our pics, they should post theirs as well.
We are human, not dick machines.
Its humanly impossible to get hard for any and everybody that comes to see you.
And the bad hygene on these guys is crazy.

yep i'm that 1 out of 10 situation where it's not work haha

any pics of you baby boy? maybe youre such a cutie and delicious uhmmm me likey

haha you're gonna have to msg me for it

[drmindbender03]

There are many of transgendered ladies that are escorts. I cannot estimate the percentage, but I dare say that over fifty percent of them in the states are escorts. Some will be honest with you upfront and some will lie about their occupation.

I advise any guy to be careful and wise. Some of the escorts have a hustler's spirit where they feel like it is them against the world. They don't have any compassion or show any sincerity for the well being of others. They are all about getting theirs at anyone's expense. Deal with them at your own risk!

There are a still a few good apples in the bunch. Unfortunately, there is a degree of difficulty involved in finding them. I have been fortunate to have the pleasure of knowing a few that have a legit job and are not willing to compromise their health or dignity by getting involved in the escort business. They are real sweethearts!

[SarahG]

There are many of transgendered ladies that are escorts. I cannot estimate the percentage, but I dare say that over fifty percent of them in the states are escorts. Some will be honest with you upfront and some will lie about their occupation.

I'd be more tempted to say that 50% of mtf's are late life transitioners who aren't in escorting...

[ed_jaxon]

This thread is why I love HA.

[Cubpocalypse]

Even for min wage shit jobs, employers aren't interested. Why would they be, when they have an infinite pool of students (without the baggage, drama, or history) to hire instead?

Students don't have baggage or drama Sarah? :) Have you been away from HS and/or college that long? ;)

[MrF]

There wasn't anything wrong with my math, but I'll admit the inputs are uncertain. However, one can make an even simpler estimate of the lower bound: It is very likely that less than 1% of males are TG, and by my observation at least 10% of escorts are TG. Admittedly, if you can prove that there are vast numbers of female escorts who don't openly advertise then the 10% could be much lower. If we accept those 2 numbers one can say that TG are at least ten times as likely to work as escorts as GG as young adults. This is so simple it isn't even math -- it's common sense. Now, a factor of 10 (lower bound) is significant, and it means something -- I'm not completely sure what -- but probably about their lives and the choices young TG face.

It's interesting to hear Kelly and some others discuss their experiences having admirers giving money with no expected reciprocation. I'm a little embarrased to admit it, but I do that occasionally. Nice to learn I'm not alone in this respect. But I figure I make plenty of money and have squandered it in far worse ways before. It was with TG I knew fairly well.

[MILANIXXX]

I ALWAYS WONDER WHY DO PEOPLE CARE SOOO MUCH WHAT OTHERS DO OR WHAT THEY ARE, IF IT DOESNT AFFECT THEM AT ALL!!!

[fred41]

I ALWAYS WONDER WHY DO PEOPLE CARE SOOO MUCH WHAT OTHERS DO OR WHAT THEY ARE, IF IT DOESNT AFFECT THEM AT ALL!!!

Well...if you are having, or trying to have a relationship with a TS (such as the OP in this case is)...then it does affect him in some way.

[MILANIXXX]

I ALWAYS WONDER WHY DO PEOPLE CARE SOOO MUCH WHAT OTHERS DO OR WHAT THEY ARE, IF IT DOESNT AFFECT THEM AT ALL!!!

Well...if you are having, or trying to have a relationship with a TS (such as the OP in this case is)...then it does affect him in some way.

THAT COMMENT WAS REALLY MORE SO GENERAL, BUT IN THIS CASE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE STUFF THAT WE AREN'T PROUD OF. THERE'S MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO SLEEP AROUND FOR FREE. SPECIALLY IN THIS LIFESTYLE THERE'S MANY CHASERS AND MEN IN GENERAL WHO SLEEP AROUND WITH A LOT OF WOMEN AND TRANSSEXUALS EVEN MEN, FOR FREE. SO I THINK NOONE IS IN THE RIGHTS TO QUESTION ANYONE S PAST OR PRESENT ETC, WHEN A LOT ARE IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT JUST FOR FREE LOL

[SarahG]

Students don't have baggage or drama Sarah? :) Have you been away from HS and/or college that long? ;)

It's not about reality. Its about perception of reality.

If employers think trans people are prong to drama, then why would they be interested in hiring them?

Look at how many threads we've had on HA where guys, guys who are sexually active with trans people & find them attractive, go on spouting off about how "all tgirls are gold diggers" or "all tgirls are superficial," etc. If that's how the "sympathetic" people think... what's that say about the employers who have no reason to give trans people an open mind?

I am sure many employers, in seeing a trans applicant, contemplate whether or not it will cause drama in the work place (i.e. fundies not wanting to work with them, coworkers not wanting to run into them in the bathroom, etc.). To say nothing of the "if you don't hire me, I'll try to sue you for discrimination" attitudes some people have.

It's legal to discriminate against trans people in most parts of the US. It is not legal to discriminate against fundies. They know who they can show the door for not being a "team player."

[eclipsemint]

I ALWAYS WONDER WHY DO PEOPLE CARE SOOO MUCH WHAT OTHERS DO OR WHAT THEY ARE, IF IT DOESNT AFFECT THEM AT ALL!!!

Well...if you are having, or trying to have a relationship with a TS (such as the OP in this case is)...then it does affect him in some way.

THAT COMMENT WAS REALLY MORE SO GENERAL, BUT IN THIS CASE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE STUFF THAT WE AREN'T PROUD OF. THERE'S MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO SLEEP AROUND FOR FREE. SPECIALLY IN THIS LIFESTYLE THERE'S MANY CHASERS AND MEN IN GENERAL WHO SLEEP AROUND WITH A LOT OF WOMEN AND TRANSSEXUALS EVEN MEN, FOR FREE. SO I THINK NOONE IS IN THE RIGHTS TO QUESTION ANYONE S PAST OR PRESENT ETC, WHEN A LOT ARE IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT JUST FOR FREE LOL

[peggygee]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/needajob.jpg

Transfriendly Job Listings (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=16294&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

[MILANIXXX]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/needajob.jpg

Transfriendly Job Listings (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=16294&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)'


THAT'S REALLY COOL THAT YOU HAVE LISTED THAT...THANKS A LOT IM SURE MANY PEOPLE CAN BENEFIT AND APPRECIATE THAT!!!!....:)

[peggygee]

THAT'S REALLY COOL THAT YOU HAVE LISTED THAT...THANKS A LOT IM SURE MANY PEOPLE CAN BENEFIT AND APPRECIATE THAT!!!!....:)

you're most welcome, and there are dozens and dozens of job listings
for all interests and skill sets.

8)

[T-girl hound]

D o you know how hard it is for a trans to get a job with background checks and all? I had apply for my dept, before I could interview her my hiring manager deleted the online app from the company database. Everything was great on the app bachelors degree, great references and interns. Thats at a fortune 100 company

[SarahG]

D o you know how hard it is for a trans to get a job with background checks and all? I had apply for my dept, before I could interview her my hiring manager deleted the online app from the company database. Everything was great on the app bachelors degree, great references and interns. Thats at a fortune 100 company

Exactly what I was talking about. Even min wage jobs use background checks now. It has become as common as drug testing.

Generally you're most likely to have to do a background check if you're applying for a chain or large company. It's still relatively uncommon in small businesses though, so if you can pass- you still have the option of small businesses like restaurants, bars, shops, so on.

However, on the flip side of that- small businesses usually have little in the way of benefits, so you'd have to buy your own insurance policy- and those private policies are usually among the worst for trans health care (like therapy & hrt).

You can't rely on HRC's employer grading scheme either, for the most part its a joke.

[BrendaQG]

You can't rely on HRC's employer grading scheme either, for the most part its a joke.

So true. Typically the logic those kind of surveys follow is that transpeople are like gay people but more visible. So if they have at least on unisex bathroom then their transfriendly.

Like others have said many times. Transwomen who are at a stage where they would not have credit or large savings and a career which is not yet developed have little choice.

Let me tell you about someone I know. Their career was not going well a while back so they escorted for a while. They got breast implants and paid their bills. Now this woman is thinking about escorting again in order to afford more work. There is no way her career will pay for this work for at least 10 years. What should she do?

I say life's short. Get what you can while you can how you can.

[frank]

In Hawaii only a small number escort, most are just girls getting by.