Porn Makes You Gay

[SarahG]

http://leftake.com/diary/795/us-senators-chief-of-staff-pornography-makes-you-gay

transcript:


It's been a few years, not that many, since I was closely associated with pre-adolescent boys, boys who are like 10 to 12 years of age. But it is my observation that boys at that age have less tolerance for homosexuality than just about any other class of people. They speak badly about homosexuality.

And that's because they don't want to be that way, they don't want to fall into it. And that's a good instinct.

After all, homosexuality, we know, studies have been done by the National Institutes of Health to try to prove that it's genetic and all those studies have proved it's not genetic. Homosexuality is inflicted on people.

..All pornography is homosexuality pornography because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards. Now think about that. And if you, if you tell an 11-year old boy about that, do you think he's going to want to go out and get a copy of playboy? I'm pretty sure he'll lose interest. That's the last thing he wants.

[rockabilly]

That explains everything! Thanks ... :?

[2009AD]

What an idiot.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAsJXTJ4vxo

[BLKGSXR]

the only gay thing to all kinds of porn is....If ur a guy watching anything but lesbian porn there is a guy there...seeing another guy naked.(i guess) blah blah blah shitty subject basically.

[SarahG]

I think this guy's argument is "since you're touching a cock by masturbating it must make you gay"

[BLKGSXR]

I think this guy's argument is "since you're touching a cock by masturbating it must make you gay"wait does that make all sex "GAY" oh lord how will I live with myself....fucking psychobabble....

[SarahG]

I think this guy's argument is "since you're touching a cock by masturbating it must make you gay"wait does that make all sex "GAY" oh lord how will I live with myself....fucking psychobabble....

Oh I am sure he thinks all sex incapable of yielding reproduction causes homosexuality as well.

[rockabilly]

I think this guy's argument is "since you're touching a cock by masturbating it must make you gay"

Define touching ... if we wear gloves and no skin contact ... are we safe?

[SarahG]

I think this guy's argument is "since you're touching a cock by masturbating it must make you gay"

Define touching ... if we wear gloves and no skin contact ... are we safe?

What if you accidentally glance at your cock while you masturbate? It could end up making you gay just from associating its visual appearance with sexual activity! :roll:

[rockabilly]

It's not mine i'd be eyeing. :oops: Maintain eye contact at all times. :lol:

Problem solved .... do it blindfoled in a dark room. Eureka it's easy!

[lochaber]

Jaysis...

How many problems are adolescents going to have to have before these people are satisfied?

Already the over-religious folk are brought up to feel guilty about being sexually attracted to someone, or masturbating, and now this guy is trying to tie it into their culturally indoctrinated homophobia? And what exactly is he doing with these preadolescent boys anyways?

And I'm pretty sure 10-12 year-olds just want to avoid being excluded from the group. I don't think they are naturally homophobic, it's just something they pick up from society and an easy accusation to toss around to anyone who they don't like.

The U.S. really needs more critical thinking and logic taught in the school system.

[lochaber]

Jaysis...

How many problems are adolescents going to have to have before these people are satisfied?

Already the over-religious folk are brought up to feel guilty about being sexually attracted to someone, or masturbating, and now this guy is trying to tie it into their culturally indoctrinated homophobia? And what exactly is he doing with these preadolescent boys anyways?

And I'm pretty sure 10-12 year-olds just want to avoid being excluded from the group. I don't think they are naturally homophobic, it's just something they pick up from society and an easy accusation to toss around to anyone who they don't like.

The U.S. really needs more critical thinking and logic taught in the school system.

[SarahG]

And what exactly is he doing with these preadolescent boys anyways?

Spending time with them, to see how susceptible they are to "the gay."

His argument can also be taken in another direction; lets do the same experiment only with 6-9 year old boys, only asking them about girls their age instead of homosexuality.

I suspect, based on back when I used to babysit in k-12... that most boys in that age group dislike the idea of being around girls their age, because those girls have "cooties" and so forth.

Therefore; most guys start off as gay in childhood, only wanting to associate with themselves because "girls are icky."

That's grant worthy science here!

[rockabilly]

Circle circle dot dot now i got my cooties shot . Now i can play Doctor w/ Sarah ;)

Sadly though Cooties vaccinations will be the first thing cut w/ healthcare reform.

[biguy4tvtscd]

Question...

I am pretty self aware of my own cock at all times. I mean, I can't help but know it is down there. Does that make me gay because I think about cock?

[rockabilly]

Question...

I am pretty self aware of my own cock at all times. I mean, I can't help but know it is down there. Does that make me gay because I think about cock?
Only if you've attempted to suck it. :lol:

[loren]

Question...

I am pretty self aware of my own cock at all times. I mean, I can't help but know it is down there. Does that make me gay because I think about cock? :lol: Ya, just thinking about cock and looking at cock (not to mention touching cock :jerkoff , licking cock :jerkoff , sucking cock :jerkoff , and taking a big, hard cock in the ass :jerkoff ) makes you gay. :D

Oops, I guess I'm screwed. :oops: :D :wink:

[rockabilly]

Screwed ?! W/ that much cock ... you're fucked! ;) :lol: :lol:

[loren]

:oops: :lol: :lol: :rock2

[rockabilly]

Here ya go Loren , you may need this. :lol: ;)

[lochaber]

That's grant worthy science here!


lol.

not that you haven't heard it before, but...

Sarah, you are fucking awesome. :)

[elo]

I think this guy's argument is "since you're touching a cock by masturbating it must make you gay"I´m gay! :shock: :lol:

[b/tardedRadaral]

I suppose it can but I know gaia online and buddypic make you gay faster than porn lol.

[elo]

In Poland the ultraconservatives are saying that if you are not talking negative about homosexuality you are promoting gayness. SMH

[worldbro]

uhhhhh people I think its true, how many guys on here got some pussy before they started to masturbate to porn?

[BluegrassCat]

If you watch the whole tape he got that nugget of wisdom from a someone who had "struggled" with homosexuality (is that like naked oil wrestling?). I'm sure for a self-hating gay guy. watching heterosexual porn makes him aware of his gay desires. But since being gay is unacceptable it must the porn that's making him gay. Sad self-denial and conservative ideology hard at work.

[SarahG]

That's grant worthy science here!


lol.

not that you haven't heard it before, but...

Sarah, you are fucking awesome. :)

lol, thanks but you think far too highly of me if you think that.

[muhmuh]

Question...

I am pretty self aware of my own cock at all times. I mean, I can't help but know it is down there. Does that make me gay because I think about cock?
Only if you've attempted to suck it. :lol:

who hasnt?
i envy dogs who are flexible enough to lick their own balls


also this must be the most cryptic "does ts porn make me gay" thread yet

[Willie Escalade]

:roll:

[blacktgirls]

he might be right , i started out with playboy and penthouse and now i'm here :shrug

[Ben]

Porn Makes You Gay???????

UNQUESTIONABLY.... :lol:

[Avagadro]

If I hadn't seen an erect penis in a porno, I probably wouldn't be here right now.

[surfblue]

pornographers have really been putting an emphasis on cock so porn conditioning guys into liking cock is not surprising to me at all

just watch some of the "straight" blow job stuff, its like the point is to make sucking cock look as appetizing as possible

and then the money shot...seems like for supposedly straight guys they are obsessed with seeing a man shoot cum

for me yeah i think straight porn turned me bi, specifcaly european porn, because i know wasnt born geneticaly predisposd to like trannies thats just ridiculous, so far i am still completely turned off by a mans body but sucking his cock is still up for debate

[eclipsemint]

Gay

# cheery: bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer; "a cheery hello"; "a gay sunny room"; "a sunny smile"
# full of or showing high-spirited merriment; "when hearts were young and gay"; "a poet could not but be gay, in such a jocund company"- Wordsworth; "the jolly crowd at the reunion"; "jolly old Saint Nick"; "a jovial old gentleman"; "have a merry Christmas"; "peals of merry laughter"; "a mirthful ...
# given to social pleasures often including dissipation; "led a gay Bohemian life"; "a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies"
# brave: brightly colored and showy; "girls decked out in brave new dresses"; "brave banners flying"; "`braw' is a Scottish word"; "a dress a bit too gay for her years"; "birds with gay plumage"
# offering fun and gaiety; "a festive (or festal) occasion"; "gay and exciting night life"; "a merry evening"


Check!!! Big tick.

[sissyrachel]

pornographers have really been putting an emphasis on cock so porn conditioning guys into liking cock is not surprising to me at all

just watch some of the "straight" blow job stuff, its like the point is to make sucking cock look as appetizing as possible

and then the money shot...seems like for supposedly straight guys they are obsessed with seeing a man shoot cum



I kind of agree with this. I have sometimes wondered in the past quite what straight guys get out of the cocksucking/facial/bukkake type pornos as they are so much about the girl worshipping cock and making it look so good to suck. Fortunately as I like cock and I love cum, these videos really turn me on, but if you're not into cock it does seem an odd thing to be obsessed with all those close ups of dicks shooting cum.

[SarahG]

Bare in mind the example he was using was prepubescent boys using playboy (softcore).

Whether or not bukkake can cause homosexuality aside, he was talking about soft core porn that doesn't show penises, to say nothing of concentrating on them.

It would be like saying "early pubescent girls go lesbian if they look at magazines male underwear models"

If you'll buy that one, I have some nice, CHEAP, tropical oceanfront property for sale in Nebraska you might want to consider buying....

[rockabilly]

After the icecaps melt ... that might be true Sarah. Invest now people. :D

[surfblue]

Bare in mind the example he was using was prepubescent boys using playboy (softcore).

Whether or not bukkake can cause homosexuality aside, he was talking about soft core porn that doesn't show penises, to say nothing of concentrating on them.

It would be like saying "early pubescent girls go lesbian if they look at magazines male underwear models"

If you'll buy that one, I have some nice, CHEAP, tropical oceanfront property for sale in Nebraska you might want to consider buying....
ah i see, my post still stands though, i think its happened to a lot of guys

[Odelay]

Yeah, I caught this story when it first came out. The more I watch of the Right Wing in America, the more I see of a panicked group of people trying to hold their shit together. They're running around drawing lines in the sand everywhere: socialism, evolution, science, integration, abstinence, etc.

It makes one dizzy trying to keep up with these people's arguments.

But the biggie as far as I can see is homosexuality. They're constantly trying to reset the clock. This guy seems to point to the 50's or 60's, when Playboy emerged, as the root of all evil. If only that darn Marilyn Monroe hadn't posed for that flagship issue we'd be a whole lot less gay. They are super-panicked about a society that is 100% accepting of homosexuality.

Here in Washington State they are putting Referendum 71 on the ballot which will make us something like the 7th or 9th state to allow gay marriage, if it passes. I watched a local news channel present opposing sides of the argument with 2 people as guest panelists.

The pro-71 woman was very calm and presented the advantages that same sex partners would enjoy if married. She wasn't getting sidetracked by emotion, nor her counterpart, nor the moderator with his leading questions. Just the facts, as she saw them.

The anti-71 guy looked normal, was professional, probably in his 30's, and tried to be calm throughout, but you could see him lose the battle. Not to the woman or the moderator, but to the issue itself. The issue was obviously eating him alive. His culminating argument was the slippery slope one that gay marriage would lead to other people coming forth to proclaim marriage for their relationships, and the one example he used most strenuously was polygamists. He made that case that there are polygamists "out there" who would jump at forcing society to honor their tri-parte or quad-parte relationships as legally bound marriage.

I guess the guy hasn't seen "Big Love" on HBO. Marriage of polygamists has been blessed by the state in various forms for centuries now, and usually has been forced upon the state by Right Wing religionists.

Luckily, there are some on the right who are beginning to see anti-gay policies as a loser issue for conservatives and the Republican Party. My hope is that these are the people from the political Right who will lead them back to sanity. I'm an unabashed liberal but I'm also a firm believer that any political system needs a healthy opposition, and the Right is just sicker than a dog right now.

[lasher33]

I think Freud would have had found this Senator's argument pretty interesting. In one of Freud's essays on his theory of sexuality, he spoke of inversion as a prerequisite for homosexuality. When one begins being attracted to or fixated on his or her own body, it would follow that a shift would occur in the individual's sexual orientation due to a male being interested in his own male body and sexual organs and a female in her own female body. This attraction eventually turns outward to others, and hence, inversion leads to attraction of others of the same sex.
As to how porn plays into all of this, I think masturbating with infrequency is completely fine and wouldn't be a factor in turning one's sexuality inward. I do, however, think that a porn addiction, such that a male is masturbating numerous times a day and relies on porn as a very regular means of getting off, would be the type of activity that theoretically could drive one to inversion and, consequently, homosexuality. When a guy is deriving his sole pleasure from masturbating and giving his own penis pleasure, I think that could potentially draw people into being fixated on their penis, and then penis in general (could this explain how 90% of the posters here only care about a girl's dick? could it explain why most men consider themselves "straight" but have such a big interest in cock? Looking at transexuals allows men to live out their cock fixations without the total guilt and weight of homosexuality, since the cock is attached to a good looking "woman.")
That all being said, I think this Senator didn't mean it in this way and is an old fashioned, set in his ways fool. It takes looking through Freud's lenses to see how this could possibly make some sense.... but I'm not really sold on it. Just trying to argue a possibility.