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Rogers
09-21-2009, 08:15 PM
"The election of Barack Obama appeared to signal the decline of the neoconservative foreign policy brand. But six months into the Age of Obama, it’s apparent that neoconservatives and their allies are proving remarkably adept at exerting their influence in an administration that was supposed to be their worst nightmare...

Change at AEI
PNAC Reinvents Itself
Center for a New American Security
The Limits of Bipartisanship
Hawking Iran

Staying Power

On Iran—as on Afghanistan, torture, and defense spending—groups like AEI and FPI have revealed a talent for continuing to influence political debates, even at a time when they are seen as representing a discredited ideology and party. Without real political power of their own, these groups have nonetheless been able to impact the decisions of those in power—most often by drumming up so much media attention for a hawkish line that Democrats in the executive and legislative branches have been forced to tack to the right to counter it.

The early visibility and viability of neoconservative think tanks over the first months of the Obama administration suggests that weakened or not, marginalized or not, these groups are likely to maintain their influence on Washington foreign policy debates for many years to come.

Daniel Luban writes for Inter Press Service and is a regular contributor to PRA’s Right Web (http://rightweb.irc-online.org/)."
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/neoconservative_resurgence_in_the_age_of_obama

techi
09-22-2009, 02:36 AM
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hippifried
09-22-2009, 04:46 AM
Nobody's marginalized in politics unless they do it to themselves. The current crop of paleocons are trying real hard & just might succeed. There's always going to be conservatives, so what's left? Neocons are the loudmouths on the other side of the spectrum. The squeaky wheel gets attention. The problem is that we just went through 8 years of neocon policies. Nobody's memory is that short.

Must really suck to be a republican right now. You have incompetence & proven failure on one side, & the only alternative is batshit crazy.

techi
09-22-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm not sure which side of the conservative movement is incompentent and which side is batshit crazy. In general, Neocons are batshit crazy on foreign policy and paleocons are batshit crazy on domestic policy.

The Democrats on the otherhand do have some sensible ideas, but they range from center-right all the way over to the left.... so they are going to have internal problems with consensus.

The economy will be the deciding factor. The most recent government projections are for unacceptably high unemployment for a long long time to come. There is no such thing as a safe district when too many people are out of work.

The first party to come up with a longterm plan for using government resources and institutions to drive the economy will win. The Democrats should be the ones doing this but they seem to have embraced the suicidal idea that much of thier focus should be on rescuing the big banks.

q1a2z3
09-27-2009, 07:59 PM
Nobody's marginalized in politics unless they do it to themselves. The current crop of paleocons are trying real hard & just might succeed. There's always going to be conservatives, so what's left? Neocons are the loudmouths on the other side of the spectrum. The squeaky wheel gets attention. The problem is that we just went through 8 years of neocon policies. Nobody's memory is that short.

Must really suck to be a republican right now. You have incompetence & proven failure on one side, & the only alternative is batshit crazy.


Republicans have always sucked. They pray to the devil wishing the conservatives would go away. Republicans want the good ole days to return! Republicans remember how much fun it was when the Demoncrats ran the show - they had the spotlight and the power. None of the blame could fall on a republican. They could quietly sit in the basement lining their pockets with lots of free money. Republicans could give a rat fart about abortion, cultural rot (sodomites, multiculturalism, diversity, community agitation, etc...). Republicans want desperately to vote for national deathcare - they want to be loved! Spectre is a great example of a self-important asshole republican wanting to be loved.
Denny Hastard and his federal highway in Ohio is another example.

Batshit? That's what the English thought in 1776 and what obama will be thinking later on down the road.