TRICKS & SUGAR DADDYS..THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO A TR

[MacShreach]

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[Ecstatic]

Hey Mega, love to read your rants cuz you shoot from the hip. I think you're on point there a lot, but I don't agree fully, especially with your first point about tricks. Yeah, I don't have respect for guys who only see escorts as sex machines, drop in a couple of hundred, bang them till they bust a nut, and then don't care a whit about the girl afterwards.

But there are guys like me who would never be with a TG except on a pay to play basis for several reasons (in my case, being married (though with my wife's full blessing, as you know), older, and living too far outside the city for clubbing, so that contacting a girl through Eros is really the only viable option), and who treat the girls with respect and all. There are several girls I'm friends with, who I talk to on the phone all the time, email with, visit with socially, etc. Yeah, when it's playtime it's paytime, and that's cool with me cuz it's a service they're providing, just like I pay one of my best friends for 20 years when he does home improvements or carpentry. A couple of these girls are real friends, it does happen.

[tracy]

hehe Mega you're the man right now you got the point I totally agree with you ;maybe that's the reason I don't see no escort ( yet ) 'cos we never know ; but I do respect the girls who do it 'cos c'mon let's be real they need to live and most of them just like you said have no alternative so I'm don't disrespect a ''sugar daddy'' I just stay away from it

[blkmnfl]

It is sad that these girls are used like that. But, many don't want a guy to look after them. It's all business. THey want you to come get your nut, maybe they will get their's and then go on.

I have dated Ts's before so it was different. But the girls that escort, usually just want it to be strictly business.

Any other replies?

[AllanahStarrNYC]

:roll: oh boy

[GMan]

ECSTATIC I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOUR NOT SOME PETHETIC SAP....IM SURE YOU AINT PAYING NO FUCKING 500 DOLLARS.....FRIENDS IS ONE THING, PLUS YOUR A MARRIED GUY WITH COMMITMENTS....I KNOW YOU AND DONT CONSIDER YOU A COCK CHASER....85% OF THESE TRICKS BOUNCE FROM GIRL TO GIRL TOO...ITS GROSS.....YOU AINT USING YOUR RENT MONEY TO SUCK ACOCK FOR 15 MINS WHILE YOU RUB ONE OUT...HOLLA

Who in the hell has $500 to spend on something like that anyway? I can think of better things to do with $500 like pay my bills....and while we are on this topic....I've got a rant, and you've inspired me today Mega, so here goes...


What the fuck is up with all of these girls out there who keep saying that they want a man who is kind, sweet, sensitive, funny, and stable, but end up going with these guys that make the real jerks you see on Jerry Springer seem like nice guys? They're not good for your emotional well being, ladies. Here, don't believe me...let me tell you about my last relationship with a tgirl...

I dated this smoking hot girl at the end of last semester, the relationship lasted until about the middle of August...and as far as relationships goes, it was all right...it had the potential to be stellar, but I kept getting compared to the ex-boyfriend (I'll call him Jim.) Of course, the comparisons weren't very flattering..."GMan, you're too soft, Jim wasn't soft." "GMan, you don't get confrontational...Jim never backed down from a fight." "GMan, why do you hold the door open for me all the time? Jim, never held the door open for me." "GMan, where are you going? Are you going to visit your female friends? Be back by 11, if you're not back by then, I'll be out front screaming that you forgot your Viagra." That last comment was what undid the relationship. I realized that she was a really sweet girl, but that guy Jim just really rottened out her soul. And I have no time for people like that in my life.

Ladies...there are tons of guys out there like me who will treat you like the women you are. We'll take you shopping, treat you right, and even proudly introduce you to our family. Thugs and jerks don't have time for that, all they have time for is themselves, you're just another notch on their bedpost, and they won't wine and dine you because they're too busy tracking down the next score. But I will.

[kennbo]

The scenario you outline is sad. It boils down to a matter of morals and values. We live in a society where objects are more highly valued than ideas....where things are more important than emotions....where money is used to value people. Mega, you are a romantic and an idealist with a wounded heart. I feel for you...I've been there myself.

[NYCe]

Mega, you already made this post, lol.

[Bigguy]

Mega, you already made this post, lol.
Yep, it's his annual sugar daddy rant post. :)
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1352

Anyway the prices that the ts women get are nothing compared to what gg porn stars get:
http://www.bodymiracle.com/seemore/indexrates99.html

I'd like to try one of those playboy playmates for a day but for those prices I'd rather get myself a new car. :roll:

[Ecstatic]

You hit it, Mega. There are girls I've seen once, no chemistry, I've never gone back. And that's only happened a few times. I don't mind paying, but I don't dig bouncing from girl to girl like a horny hounddog. Dropping a couple hundred now and then is fine: it would cost more than that to date actively anyway.

[Slither]

Not that I disagree, but when did this board become the Dr. Phil show? It seems like every other post is someone telling the girls how they should be living their lives.

Its not just a problem with t-girls anyway, just as many GG's live like that, and it's not going to stop so it's useless to argue about it.

[hillbilly]

lol. love it!

come on MEGA you know everyone is just ruining their own selves.

hey is it better if i'm a top and can squeeze the whole hour outta her? lol, we know that is impossible!

[BlackAdder]

Actually ive got to disagree with you slither...yes there are GG girls who live by that creed, but look at the percentages of ts's who live that way and GG who lives that way.....its all in the percentages.


My stories pretty short...I dated a then well known TS in the philadelphia club scene in the summer of 1999. She was a hostess at various shows when Shampoo/The Nile/Egypt were big. She was well paid by all accounts...She also tricked on the side....I tried like hell to get her to stop trickin but to no avail..In one ear and out the other...She also spent money like mad...Since the made money everyone was always mooching off her, her family, her friends...even ex-boyfriends!!! After 3 months of that crap I threw in the towel...What touched off the end was how she was always smoking weed before we had sex......TOO MUCH WEED lol.....I couldnt get used to that kind of fast lane lifestyle...Im just a country boy at heart lol...

Shit just pissed me off....Were still friends but she's still trickin and now she's getting older....I fear for her and its only a matter of time before that bubble bursts....

[BeardedOne]

My last GG "lover" cost about $5k over the course of the year we were together in dinners, gifts, time off from work, travel, etc. This does not include the mental and emotional cost of that bloodbath or the ensuing costs in therapy, psychotropic medications, lost sleep, damaged health etc. that I endured over the eight years since.

In the past two years, having occasional visits with T-girl escorts and averaging at about $300 an hour, I've spent less money, had a better time, and haven't had any psychotic backlash (Knock latex) to show for it.

All things considered, that's a bargain, and the company has been infinitely preferable.

Agreed, there is a hard shell on the ones I know, but the 'strictly business' aspect gives me a hard shell of my own that I'm rather comfortable with.

[Vicki Richter]

Mega hit the nail right on the head. He is totally right. Girls shopping like they are millionaires buying stuff to impress... other girls. Guys don't care if you have a Prada bag or one from Target. Really they don't. Guys don't care if you are wearing Fredericks heels or Gucci. I've bought a couple pairs of jeans that cost a couple hundred $, but that is few and far between. Mostly I'll get Guess at Macy's or 7 knock off's at the sidwalk botiques in L.A. My T friends always knock my purses... But when I go out with my GG friends, they don't even care. I'm usually dressed better than them because they are $30k a year teachers, students, or whatever.

But yeah... Hooking ruins girls. Going from $500 a day to $500 a week that a lot of people live off of is a big difference. I mean $500 after taxes is like $800 or so or $40k a year. That isn't terrible money in the scheme of things.

But TS are men genetically if not physically or mentally. Selling your body is easy to mentally justify when "it's just sex". It's actually guilt free.

[Adam_Thompson]

Mega hit the nail right on the head. He is totally right. Girls shopping like they are millionaires buying stuff to impress... other girls. Guys don't care if you have a Prada bag or one from Target. Really they don't. Guys don't care if you are wearing Fredericks heels or Gucci. I've bought a couple pairs of jeans that cost a couple hundred $, but that is few and far between. Mostly I'll get Guess at Macy's or 7 knock off's at the sidwalk botiques in L.A. My T friends always knock my purses... But when I go out with my GG friends, they don't even care. I'm usually dressed better than them because they are $30k a year teachers, students, or whatever.

But yeah... Hooking ruins girls. Going from $500 a day to $500 a week that a lot of people live off of is a big difference. I mean $500 after taxes is like $800 or so or $40k a year. That isn't terrible money in the scheme of things.

But TS are men genetically if not physically or mentally. Selling your body is easy to mentally justify when "it's just sex". It's actually guilt free.

Yeah seriously what guy cares that a girl is wearing Gucci or Guess or what purse they have. You can style in cheap shit, as long as it looks good and you're clean. I look at booty breast and faces first anyway, not what kinda jeans a girl is wearing. Save that money for some more important shit..like maybe your future.

[lar2564]

Holy Shit!!! Men pay tgirls in order to get fucked and suck their cocks....you got to be joking, right? Please tell me you are.

[cheribaum]

LIAR

[mtbazz]

I disagree TOTALLY with what the original poster was saying, and find it amazing that someone would place the blame on other people for the choices that a person makes. This basically is saying that what happens to someone because of the actiions they choose to do is not their fault, but the fault of someone else..nothing is anyones fault.....

A girl makes the CHOICE to escort...No one is forcing her to do it. She could easily choose another profession. I don't know alot of TS girls in person, but I have gotten to a know a few over the past year that are quite attractive, work in professional environemnts, and would never THINK of escorting.


I understand that people have to do what they must to survive, especially in the TG world, but lets face it, it is a decision they make on their own to take that path....they can't place the blame on some poor lonely sap who wants to suck them off....

I have gone to two escorts when I was younger (~25 or so, more than ten years ago), I would never do it again. I was young, naive, and lonely. Looking back it is pretty disgusting, and I am lucky I didnt get a disease or knived (one girl I went to kept a thug in the backroom for guys that didnt have enough money)....Nor would I agree to have my dick sucked for money (or for free by a stranger).....In this day and age of HIV (with new strains probably on the horizon) it is not worth going out and having sex with a stranger....

The botttom line is that people need to own up and take responsibility for their actions and choices.

There are options to escorting.. The money may not be as great, and a lifestyle change may be needed, but there are options....

[Poon36]

Shit that little?? I paid a 1000 dollars just to lick a tranny's asshole.
I was robbed!!!!!!!

[mebarreboy]

Damn it - i feel so guilty now :oops:

I had my first, and only experience of a TS with an American 'Superstarr' in London last month. I paid over $500 for probably not more that 30 minutes.

I never considered i was condemning her to a life she doesnt want to lead, as she seems a very intelligent person who doesnt need anyone else telling her how she should lead her life.

I'm married, live out in the sticks, and as much as i would love to try the TS nightlife (not so much in the UK), this was my only chance to experience something so special that i may well never get the chance to try again.

I can only thank her for the experience, and hope i have not contributed to ruining her life....

[AllanahStarrNYC]

ok goodness-

i dont know any trannsexual who was "forced" into escorting- that is ridiculous

it might be one of the few options open to some girls- but still it is a choice.

as far as shopping- if u meet a man who appreciates a well dressed woman- who is put together well then yes he will appreciate it. trust me- some guys do notice and care.

i happen to like nice bags, and shoes, and clothes because i like nice things. but i am very smart with the way i shop and i know where and when to shop. example- the dolce and gabanna dress i wore last year to the avn was a $3,000 dress that i got for $500-it's all about being savvy
if you like high fashion.

but i dont buy a handbag, shoes, or a clothes to impress anyone but myself. i like the way it makes me feel.

[lar2564]

This post reminds me of the MacDonalds gain weight argument (you know the movie "Super Size Me")

One the one hand, someone can say eating fast unhealthy food is a choice. So if you gain weight, it is your fault.

On the other hand (for those who saw the movie), the chemicals and advertising MacDonalds uses is just simply too strong for one to resist...so who is too blame?

I am not writing this to argue to you about MacDonalds and gaining weight, but to simply put that who to put the finger at is hard to say in this post...

Is it the Sugar Daddy that gives $500 or is the tgirl, who makes the choice to escort? Again, it is a choice, but getting $500 a day versus a week, the temptation could be too strong.

Imagine this...someone puts a gun to your hard and says give me all your money or die? Now you have a choice here of course, but do you really?

The point is this...having a choice doesn't always mean you have a choice. In the above scenario, is there really a choice: your life or your money? This is a choice, but the answer is obvious as which to choice. When you are forced to choose one way because the alternative is too much to bare, it isn't a choice

So look at it this way: make $500/week working 40 hours a week and barely make ends meet or...make $500/day and buy all the clothes and everything you wanted in life?

Is this really a choice? Not in the way I put in. But think of this: anyone could go out and deal drugs and make $500/day also, but many of us don't. Why? Because of the risk of going to jail, becoming an addict ourselfs, bad repetation to others, or even being killed. We know these risks through education we have receieved through the years. That is what stops use from dealing drugs and doing crimes and stuff.

So I don't think the truth of the problem lies in the sugar daddy or even the escort herself. It lies in the lack of education and understanding we have towards the risk of escorting. I don't know much about escorting, but it sounds like it leads to an unhappy life and a bad repetition. Yet tgirls keep doing it because they simply aren't educated to its negatives.

We can't stop the sugar daddys from doing what they do. I think Mega refers to the sugar daddys as those that have a wife at home and probably children too and have tons of money ($500 is no big deal) and go tgirl to tgirl. They don't care about how they ruin tgirls. There aren't going to these forums and listening to what the tgirl community has to say. Why would they? They just want sex from tgirls and go on with their life. They don't want to be associated with the tgirl community. So why waste time trying to point the finger at them, they aren't even listening.

So I think only through patience, education, and understanding, can we help these tgirls to change their ways. Remember relative to other communities, tgirl is quite a new community and still has a lot to learn. Realizing that the $500/day choice comes with unhappiness and regret versus $500/week that comes with the opportunity to live a normal live perhaps with a loving relationship with someone sounds like a much better choice, right? But if escorts don't understand that and simply see the choice as $500/day versus $500/week, what do you think they will choose?

[BeardedOne]

Gosh, I wish I knew a nice T-girl escort that only got $500 a day. :D

[cheribaum]

DUDE, lay off the STEROIDS, and I wasnt talking about your Julissa, I was refering to what you told me about her... And dont threaten me. You cocksucker.... everyone knows ur full of shit. You know as well as I do, that you did try to chat with me along with sending your pics. I on the other hand was not interested in chatting with. How do I know so much if Im making it up. Anyway, noone cares... Your bitter cuz the girls you are interested in are escorts and they'd rather have money than some steroid induced freak. Is it true what they say about steroids shrinking your dick and makeing your mind go crazy?????? And now what? Are you gonna come hunt me down??? Im in San Diego and on the entire west coast this winter, So come on.... And you cant handle everyone on this board knowing your an ass, thats why you deleted my post. So fuck you, you pathetic no tranny getting fuckhead....And ban me from here, It just shows ur a scaredy cat that cant deal with his own faults, when posted on a public forum, BLAMING THE TRICKS because you cant get a ts. :D

[cheribaum]

and I was also told that u would totally miss the point and pin point on the most irrelevant part of my post which was JULISSA,

[brickcitybrother]

Adam_Thompson


That avatar is the BEST!


Oh - I think its just a vicious cycle - the girl feeds off the trick, the trick feeds off the girl. It just that more often than not - the girl is lower on the food chain. That's the problem - Prey and Predator. There is not cooperative living.

[cheribaum]

u talk like a big flaming fag MISS THANG and um, most ts dont take hormones, I dont take hormones cuz they fucked me up. And also most ts use hormones as an excuse to not have to get a hard on. Plus, ur just stupid for even trying to put me down. if you knew anything about hormones you would know that they really dont do much but give u nipples, shrink ur dick and maybgive u little boobies. I got implants so I wouldnt have to take hormones, MISS THANG and noone ever said I was flawless or passable. Its pathetic you have a long mail out letter, you should post it so everyone can laugh at you. and its also sad u feel u have to put me down when all I was doing was stating facts MISS THANG. And I'd love for you to see me in person, lol. Ill wear a green dress to match that lougie you promise. I never said I was a ts, im a shemale. In its truest form, I do it for the sex and the money MISS THANG. Call me a whore, Its true. Call me what you want and try to put me down, ur just mad. Mad that you got called out on ur forum and too embarrassed to show my original post .I cant be bothered with some tranny chaser faggot that cant get dick and has to delete posts!!! See ya later QUEEN.

:roll: Fags never fight fair!!!!

[TheAlphaMale]

No offense mega but why do you give a fuck who gives who money(it seems like your jealous of the girls)!

[ANIYAH]

Mega body You read like a Typical NYC queen I love it ...sometimes i forget that ur a regualar dude?....Your mouth is Hot

[lar2564]

.BUT I MUST ADMIT A NICE BIG GREEN LUGIE IN YOUR EYE WOULD BE AN INPROVEMENT.....




I am an eye doctor. Hit me up if the lugie causes an infection or something...my advice would be too close the eye before it hits the surface through

[cheribaum]

Im just going to say your stupid and not say anything else cuz you have done a good enough job making yourself look like an ass. Read.... Please. you cant even spell.

[ANIYAH]

MEGABODY are u talking about the Old ClubHouse on 28 street Planet 28 ..........I KNEW YOU WAS ONE OF THE GIRLSS LOL ...Im stoke now Cause i probably no you or have seen u around ....I was young in the 28th street ClubHouse era ....But Knew alot of folks from walking balls in my younger days

[flabbybody]

this is great. just like the old days.

what's a lugie?

[brickcitybrother]

Toooooo Much.

Keep it up kids. All must come to the light. lol