Are you gay?

[BellaBellucci]

I'm pansexual. I'm not straight, gay, or even bi. Probably neither are you. This came up in another thread so in case you don't know what it means...

From the all-knowing Wiki <g>:


Pansexuality, or omnisexuality[1] is a sexual orientation characterized by the potential for aesthetic attraction, romantic love, or sexual desire for people, regardless of their gender identity or biological sex. Some pansexuals suggest that they are gender-blind; that gender and sex are insignificant or irrelevant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.[2] For others, an individual's sex, gender expression, or gender identity can be a key factor of attraction, despite the pansexual individual's wide range of sex and gender attractions.
The word pansexual is derived from the Greek prefix pan-, meaning "all". In its simplest form, pansexuality denotes the potential of sexual attraction to all genders and beings. It is intended to negate the idea of two genders (as expressed by bi-)
The adjective pansexual may also be applied to organizations or events. In this context, the term usually indicates an openness to the involvement of people of all genders and sexual orientations in said organization/event, as well as the pansexual sexual identity.
[edit]Pansexuality compared to bisexuality

Bisexuality is a sexual orientation characterized by attraction to both the same gender and the opposite gender. Unlike pansexuality, it does not specifically include people who fall outside the gender binary. Pansexuality has been described as a "means to skip the binaries and essentialism of 'bi'."[3]
However, many people who identify as bisexual are actually attracted to people who fall outside the gender binary. These people, who could be described as pansexual, have a variety of reasons for identifying as bisexual, including widespread unfamiliarity with the term "pansexual" as well as its negative connotations for some people. Some define bisexual as "attraction to people from more than one gender".[4] Others contrast "attraction to people of multiple genders" with pansexuality's "attraction regardless of gender".

So no, you're probably not gay. Can we put THIS question to rest too now?

~BB~

[Jericho]

I'm not gay, but......
:lol:
:shrug

[indeed]

if one has sex with a TS it means one is gay. period.

[Dirky]

if one has sex with a TS it means one is gay. period.

Which one though?

[Teydyn]

if one has sex with a TS it means one is gay. period.
So you see TS as man. Congratulations to this nice, intelligent and accurate view...

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm emotionally straight, but I love all kinds of sex and a variety of partners. I don't think I could ever be romantically involved with a woman or FTM TS though.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I'm pansexual. I'm not straight, gay, or even bi. Probably neither are you. This came up in another thread so in case you don't know what it means...

~BB~

Wait, on the duke chute thread, in the beginning of that thread - you said you was straight and after a couple of pages - that you're a top and didn't like anal sex. Then towards the end of that thread you claimed you're a woman and doesn't either like to top or bottom and was inexperienced (But have topped and bottom for clients). Then you also added, that you believe sexuality is 'fluid'. Now on this thread, you're saying you're nor straight, gay or even bi but pansexual? But you also said you hate labels.

How does one become such a chameleon? Are you confused about your sexuality..cos we all are. Care to explain?

:?

~Kisses.

HTG

[indeed]

if one has sex with a TS it means one is gay. period.

Which one though?

a man is gay if he has sex with ts

[BellaBellucci]

I'm pansexual. I'm not straight, gay, or even bi. Probably neither are you. This came up in another thread so in case you don't know what it means...

~BB~

Wait, on the duke chute thread, in the beginning of that thread - you said you was straight and after a couple of pages - that you're a top. Then towards the end of that thread you claimed you're a woman and doesn't really like to top or bottom (and was inexperienced). But have topped and bottom for clients. Then you also added, that you believe sexuality is fluid. Now on this thread, you're saying you're nor straight, gay or even bi but pansexual?

How does one become such a chameleon? Are you confused about your sexuality..cos we all are. Care to explain?

:?

~Kisses.

HTG

I NEVER said I was straight. I was a straight male and started exploring alternate sexualities as I transitioned. The way I see it, if I'm going to be accepted as gender-fluid, then I need to accept that trait in others.

As far as sexual acts I've said I've tried everything, done some things many, many times, and find bottoming painful but am open to exploring. I also never said I was inexperienced. I said with bottoming, I've had BAD experiences.

Honey, seriously. Where do you come up with some of this stuff? My story hasn't changed one bit; only your interpretation has in order to serve your own needs. I thought we were done with this. Either you're not or you're trying to figure out if I'd be sexually attracted to you.

I'm sorry, but I'm not.

~BB~

[timebomb]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.

[BellaBellucci]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.

I enjoy watching chasers kiss the asses of their favorite girls. Do you think for yourself or does Hara just upload her programming directly into your brain? Your opinion is biased at best, trolling at worst.

You played the loyal puppydog to her on the duke chute thread and it's clear that you're doing it here too.

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.Not in regards to Hara or Bella, but what's funny is when you know you're hearing bullshit and you're expected to swallow it. I love letting people go on with BS, because they're only grabbing enough rope to hang themselves. Sooner or later, everything comes out in the wash. That's why there are trannys. ;)

[BellaBellucci]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.Not in regards to Hara or Bella, but what's funny is when you know you're hearing bullshit and you're expected to swallow it. I love letting people go on with BS, because they're only grabbing enough rope to hang themselves. Sooner or later, everything comes out in the wash. That's why there are trannys. ;)

Ok, well with a statement like that, I'd hope you'd elaborate. Are you saying there's no such thing as pansexuality, that Hara needs to stop stalking me, or both?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I'm pansexual. I'm not straight, gay, or even bi. Probably neither are you. This came up in another thread so in case you don't know what it means...

~BB~

Wait, on the duke chute thread, in the beginning of that thread - you said you was straight and after a couple of pages - that you're a top. Then towards the end of that thread you claimed you're a woman and doesn't really like to top or bottom (and was inexperienced). But have topped and bottom for clients. Then you also added, that you believe sexuality is fluid. Now on this thread, you're saying you're nor straight, gay or even bi but pansexual?

How does one become such a chameleon? Are you confused about your sexuality..cos we all are. Care to explain?

:?

~Kisses.

HTG

I NEVER said I was straight. I was a straight male and started exploring alternate sexualities as I transitioned. The way I see it, if I'm going to be accepted as gender-fluid, then I need to accept that trait in others.

As far as sexual acts I've said I've tried everything, done some things many, many times, and find bottoming painful but am open to exploring. I also never said I was inexperienced. I said with bottoming, I've had BAD experiences.

Honey, seriously. Where do you come up with some of this stuff? My story hasn't changed one bit; only your interpretation has in order to serve your own needs. I thought we were done with this. Either you're not or you're trying to figure out if I'd be sexually attracted to you.

I'm sorry, but I'm not.

~BB~

We are done. I'm just asking question, based on what you've written - told me and the board. Is that wrong or off limits for discussion? And I'm sorry but I don't understand how you can change your sexuality whenever it suits you nor do I understand your explanation (maybe it's just me).

And NO, I'm NOT trying to figure out if I'm attracted to you. I'm definitely NOT attracted to tg/ts/tv and women!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

We are done. I'm just asking question, based on what you've written - told me and the board. Is that wrong or off limits for discussion? And I'm sorry but I don't understand how you can change your sexuality whenever it suits you nor do I understand your explanation (maybe it's just me).

And NO, I'm NOT trying to figure out if I'm attracted to you. I'm definitely NOT attracted to tg/ts/tv and women!

~Kisses.

HTG

I'm just saying - you're the one so obsessed with labels so I used one that is all-encompassing hoping you'd finally figure out that I just simply am attracted to whomever I'm attracted to regardless of gender. Just because you can't fathom the concept doesn't mean that my repeated attempts to explain it are all dissimilar (or 'bullshit' as your little lapdog insists).

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

We are done. I'm just asking question, based on what you've written - told me and the board. Is that wrong or off limits for discussion? And I'm sorry but I don't understand how you can change your sexuality whenever it suits you nor do I understand your explanation (maybe it's just me).

And NO, I'm NOT trying to figure out if I'm attracted to you. I'm definitely NOT attracted to tg/ts/tv and women!

~Kisses.

HTG

I'm just saying - you're the one so obsessed with labels so I used one that is all-encompassing hoping you'd finally figure out that I just simply am attracted to whomever I'm attracted to regardless of gender. Just because you can't fathom the concept doesn't mean that my repeated attempts to explain it are all dissimilar.

~BB~

Well it's NOT really about that. I accept people for what they like be it they like dick and if they want to suck it, ass - if they want to be fuck or bottom etc. I enjoy these activities myself!

I was more concern (questioning?) about your lack of consistency. Which is one important trait on boards/forums to gain respect of other members. That's all.

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Oh and timebomb is definitely NOT anyone's lapdog.

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

We are done. I'm just asking question, based on what you've written - told me and the board. Is that wrong or off limits for discussion? And I'm sorry but I don't understand how you can change your sexuality whenever it suits you nor do I understand your explanation (maybe it's just me).

And NO, I'm NOT trying to figure out if I'm attracted to you. I'm definitely NOT attracted to tg/ts/tv and women!

~Kisses.

HTG

I'm just saying - you're the one so obsessed with labels so I used one that is all-encompassing hoping you'd finally figure out that I just simply am attracted to whomever I'm attracted to regardless of gender. Just because you can't fathom the concept doesn't mean that my repeated attempts to explain it are all dissimilar.

~BB~

Well it's NOT really about that. I accept people for what they like be it they like dick and if they want to suck it, ass - if they want to be fucked or bottom etc. I enjoy these activities myself!

I was more concern (questioning?) about your lack of consistency. Which is one important trait on boards/forums to gain respect of other members. That's all.

~Kisses.

HTG

The point of this entire thread was to allow me to answer the apparent question surrounding my sexuality. The answer, in short, is that I'm pansexual. There was never a lack of consistency; simply a lack of understanding which is why I included the definition.

And I'm sure you were TERRIBLY worried about my reputation. Thanks for your concern but one thing I do NOT have is an identity issue. ;)

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Oh and timebomb is definitely NOT anyone's lapdog.

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

LIES!!!

~BB~

[timebomb]

If I am such a lapdog then check my prior posts. I have never spoke to Hara on any thread that I can think of. Why all of a sudden would I come to her support? Maybe because I am not actually supporting her but I am looking at the statements and calling them for what they are. You assume I am kissing ass rather than looking at the arguments. Right is right. You where soooooooooooooooooo against the assumption that "all t-girls bottom" but yet now your so curious as to anal sex?

You spent over 20 pages bashing Hara and now your wanting to discover proper anal sex? That is what I call bullshit. It bullshit because you can't trash someone and then take the position they had just had. I never was trying to attack you. I was just trying to point out Hara's original message. Then you turned hostile when I never said anything negative. After that I realized you just want to have the last word in arguments. You want to "win" them. And thats fine.

I will let you have the last word in this thread because its yours. But don't call me a lapdog just because I didn't support your incorrect and mostly contradictory statements.

[BellaBellucci]

If I am such a lapdog then check my prior posts. I have never spoke to Hara on any thread that I can think of. Why all of a sudden would I come to her support? Maybe because I am not actually supporting her but I am looking at the statements and calling them for what they are. You assume I am kissing ass rather than looking at the arguments. Right is right. You where soooooooooooooooooo against the assumption that "all t-girls bottom" but yet now your so curious as to anal sex?

You spent over 20 pages bashing Hara and now your wanting to discover proper anal sex? That is what I call bullshit. It bullshit because you can't trash someone and then take the position they had just had. I never was trying to attack you. I was just trying to point out Hara's original message. Then you turned hostile when I never said anything negative. After that I realized you just want to have the last word in arguments. You want to "win" them. And thats fine.

I will let you have the last word in this thread because its yours. But don't call me a lapdog just because I didn't support your incorrect and mostly contradictory statements.

I didn't bash Hara. That's how I know this is personal for you: you keep saying that and it simply isn't true.

My position in that thread was clear and so was her's. She bashed ME by saying that 'women don't top,' implying that I'm not a woman because I do. I took umbrage to that and with her statement that anal sex with a tranny is 'a given due to a lack of a pussy,' or something to that effect. My argument was that not every tranny is into anal sex and I'm right.

I further went on to say that I wasn't into it because I had bad experiences, and yes, now after talking to people about it, I'm open to trying it again. Where's the problem? What's 'incorrect' or 'contradictory' about any of that?

And I like to have the last word because sometimes the prior words are absolutely worthless - like yours.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

She bashed ME by saying that 'women don't top,' implying that I'm not a woman because I do.

A FEW things here I wanted to CLEAR out with you:

I said traditionally, women don't top! That is TRUE. It has NOTHING to do with the fact that you do not bottom. Let's once again put everything in their right perspective! You SHOULDN'T feel offended by that statement because that is exactly a correct description how female 'traditional' role is. You got offended however and THAT is NOT my fault but YOURS because you read between my post and interpret it as such! EDIT ADD: And of course today, the 'traditional' woman has also evolved. Some gg's do top with strap ons. BUT still NOT majority of women does. ;)


anal sex with a tranny is 'a given due to a lack of a pussy,' or something to that effect. My argument was that not every tranny is into anal sex and I'm right.

No, YOU are still WRONG! You see, as Mandy and sucka4chix pointed out, What I meant by that statement was simple: With transexual guys make love/have sex via the ass. The ass acts as a substitute because WE don't have vagina's. Are there other ways to make your partner happy. Yes Of course there are other ways. But anal sex plays a BIG part between man-tg relationships.

My statement has NOTHING to do with why 'some' transexuals who don't like anal sex, Or that if you don't engage in anal sex you're not a woman. I never said those words - YOU did, your interpretation!

I hope this time is CLEARER! I'm getting exhusted trying to explain this to you. It's very elementary really. I may not be as TENTH as articulate as you, but I don't think the way I tried to explain things were incomprehensible.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

She bashed ME by saying that 'women don't top,' implying that I'm not a woman because I do.

A FEW things here I wanted to CLEAR out with you:

I said traditionally, women don't top! That is TRUE. It has NOTHING to do with the fact that you do not bottom. Let's once again put everything in their right perspective! You SHOULN'T feel offended by that statement because that is exactly a correct description how female traditional role is. You got offended however and THAT is NOT my fault but YOURS!


anal sex with a tranny is 'a given due to a lack of a pussy,' or something to that effect. My argument was that not every tranny is into anal sex and I'm right.

No, YOU are still WRONG! You see, as Mandy and sucka4chix pointed out, What I meant by that statement was simple: With transexual guys make love/have sex via the ass. The ass acts as a substitute because WE don't have vagina's. Are there other ways to make your partner happr. Yes Of course there are other ways. But anal sex plays a BIG part between man tg relationships. My statement has NOTHING to do with some transexuals who don't like anal sex. Or that if you don't engage in anal sex you're not a woman. I never said those words - YOU did!

I hope this time is CLEARER! I'm getting exhusted trying to explain this to you. It's very elementary really. I may not be as TENTH as articulate with you, but I don't think the way I tried to explain things were incomprehensible.

~Kisses.

HTG

I'm sorry, but I still feel you were speaking overly authoritatively and absolutely unequivocally. You also leave out that you were calling me a man, 'Daddy Tranny,' etc (which I could care less about - I just find it incredibly immature), and intentionally trying to confuse what *I* was saying for the sake of amplifying the drama.

Don't play little miss innocent now. We both apologized, that means we both have to take responsibility for our actions. According to your own words, all I had to do was apologize for potentially misunderstanding you, which I did, but YOU attacked me, and if your apology is sincere, then you'll admit it.

~BB~

[praetor]

Straight, but technically Bi, if we are attracted to shemales and females we can't be totally straight.

[JamesHunt]

who gives a fuck :roll:

[praetor]

I'm allways active on sex with shemales.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I'm sorry, but I still feel you were speaking overly authoritatively and absolutely unequivocally. You also leave out that you were calling me a man, 'Daddy Tranny,' etc (which I could care less about - I just find it incredibly immature), and intentionally trying to confuse what *I* was saying for the sake of amplifying the drama.

No I am NOT! You just got overly sensitive and insisted on a few thing which TRIGGERED my anger hence calling you bricked faced tranny daddy! Is that CLEARER? I actuqally hate tranny drama hence I ony got a few tranny friends. I got more gg friends because they aren't bothered by my T like most tg's I've met.


Don't play little miss innocent now. We both apologized, that means we both have to take responsibility for our actions. According to your own words, all I had to do was apologize for potentially misunderstanding you, which I did, but YOU attacked me, and if your apology is sincere, then you'll admit it.

~BB~

I am NOT playing lil Miss Innocent. I've apologized making that thread to mock you ( mean it). But I am NOT however apologizing for that things I've said and stood for on the duke chutes thread (minus the insults of course). But you OWE me one, for misinterpreting what I've said and blown it out of proportion!

Now if you'll apologize, I will too for the insults I've thrown your way..but you started it so..YOU 1st! Then maybe we could begin somewhere.

~Kisses.

HTG

[rockabilly]

What no celibacy option?

[Jericho]

I'm allways active on sex with shemales.

Yep, that makes all the difference! :lol:

[SarahG]

What no celibacy option?

Even celibate people can have an orientation.

Just think of all those priests who insisted on breaking celibracy, not to be with girls... but underage boys.

[BellaBellucci]

I'm sorry, but I still feel you were speaking overly authoritatively and absolutely unequivocally. You also leave out that you were calling me a man, 'Daddy Tranny,' etc (which I could care less about - I just find it incredibly immature), and intentionally trying to confuse what *I* was saying for the sake of amplifying the drama.

No I am NOT! You just got overly sensitive and insisted on a few thing which TRIGGERED my anger hence calling you bricked faced tranny daddy! Is that CLEARER? I actuqally hate tranny drama hence I ony got a few tranny friends. I got more gg friends because they aren't bothered by my T like most tg's I've met.


Don't play little miss innocent now. We both apologized, that means we both have to take responsibility for our actions. According to your own words, all I had to do was apologize for potentially misunderstanding you, which I did, but YOU attacked me, and if your apology is sincere, then you'll admit it.

~BB~

I am NOT playing lil Miss Innocent. I've apologized making that thread to mock you ( mean it). But I am NOT however apologizing for that things I've said and stood for on the duke chutes thread (minus the insults of course). But you OWE me one, for misinterpreting what I've said and blown it out of proportion!

Now if you'll apologize, I will too for the insults I've thrown your way..but you started it so..YOU 1st! Then maybe we could begin somewhere.

~Kisses.

HTG

I'm not apologizing for starting anything because simply disagreeing you is not picking a fight. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because I really don't see it being worked out any other way.

I'm sorry you don't have more trans friends, but I think a lot of us (myself included) are in the same boat. Most of my friends (my REAL friends anyway) are cisgendered as well.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I'm not apologizing for starting anything because simply disagreeing you is not picking a fight. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because I really don't see it being worked out any other way.

I'm sorry you don't have more trans friends, but I think a lot of us (myself included) are in the same boat. Most of my friends (my REAL friends anyway) are cisgendered as well.

~BB~

Now that I've thought more into it, YOU were actually 'disagreeing' on stuffs which you've interpreted..and NOT what I originally meant and stated. Big difference. Maybe you should start there?

Pride getting in the way?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

I'm not apologizing for starting anything because simply disagreeing you is not picking a fight. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because I really don't see it being worked out any other way.

I'm sorry you don't have more trans friends, but I think a lot of us (myself included) are in the same boat. Most of my friends (my REAL friends anyway) are cisgendered as well.

~BB~

Now that I've thought more into it, YOU were actually 'disagreeing' on stuffs which you've interpreted..and NOT what I originally meant and stated. Big difference. Maybe you should start there?

Pride getting in the way?

~Kisses.

HTG

You're a funny chick. You know that?

I disagreed with what you said in the context of the manner in which you said it. Instead of clarifying your statements, you attacked me. Even if you're right and I added unintended meaning to your words, the way you reacted to my 'misunderstanding' removed all doubt in my mind that I was correct in reading between the lines. You keep grasping at individual statements about which to argue but you ignore your attitude when you made them.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

labels... i hate them. period. Why can't i just live life. Some days I like to have sex/love with girls and other days I want t-girls. Is it that big of a deal? do really need to find a label to put on myself?

Some days I like to draw, paint and create. Other days I like to play sports, and some days I like to work at my job. So does that make me an artist, athlete or physician? ..or all? How can I separate who i am by finding one title to label myself as? It doesn't make any sense. Its to one dimential to try and label myself as this or that. How can I be labeled gay just because I love TS and I still love women? I haven't been with a man, but if it did ever happen it still wouldn't make sense to me to try and say I'm 'this' or 'that'. I just love to feel good, make love and have sex and fuck and have fun, as long as its all positive energy. Some of you aren't as 'free' I guess, and feel the need to label yourself or confine yourself in some way to feel secure, ..i understand it, but just don't feel the need to throw labels on me because of your insecurities.

Thank you. :)

And are you a pothead Faulker? ;)

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You're a funny chick. You know that?

I disagreed with what you said in the context of the manner in which you said it. Instead of clarifying your statements, you attacked me. Even if you're right and I added unintended meaning to your words, the way you reacted to my 'misunderstanding' removed all doubt in my mind that I was correct in reading between the lines. You keep grasping at individual statements about which to argue but you ignore your attitude when you made them.

~BB~

Scratch that! Page 3!! STAY, FOCUS! We already got it CLEARED. You've obviously misinterpreted what I've said and read into it. Then insisted your interpretation is what i mean..which WAS NOT!

Duke chutes thread:

Me - aggitated
You - insisted
Me - frustrated and called you names
You - insisted more and called me names back

New thread:

Me - clarifying things
You - admitting to misunderstanding what I meant
Me - waiting for that apology
You - apologizing?

Hello? If you want my apology, I need to hear yours..

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

You're a funny chick. You know that?

I disagreed with what you said in the context of the manner in which you said it. Instead of clarifying your statements, you attacked me. Even if you're right and I added unintended meaning to your words, the way you reacted to my 'misunderstanding' removed all doubt in my mind that I was correct in reading between the lines. You keep grasping at individual statements about which to argue but you ignore your attitude when you made them.

~BB~

Scratch that! Page 3!! STAY, FOCUS! We already got it CLEARED. You've obviously misinterpreted what I've said and read into it. Then insisted your interpretation is what i mean..which WAS NOT!

Duke chutes thread:

Me - aggitated
You - insisted
Me - frustrated and called you names
You - insisted more and called me names back

New thread:

Me - clarifying things
You - admitting to misunderstanding what I meant
Me - waiting for that apology
You - apologizing?

Hello? If you want my apology, I need to hear yours..

~Kisses.

HTG

I did apologize. And I will again. I'm sorry if you feel I put words in your mouth. I don't know you to have any personal animosity towards you, but that doesn't mean I don't still disagree with the way you said what you did.

That's it. Why do you persist?

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

labels... i hate them. period. Why can't i just live life. Some days I like to have sex/love with girls and other days I want t-girls. Is it that big of a deal? do really need to find a label to put on myself?

Some days I like to draw, paint and create. Other days I like to play sports, and some days I like to work at my job. So does that make me an artist, athlete or physician? ..or all? How can I separate who i am by finding one title to label myself as? It doesn't make any sense. Its to one dimential to try and label myself as this or that. How can I be labeled gay just because I love TS and I still love women? I haven't been with a man, but if it did ever happen it still wouldn't make sense to me to try and say I'm 'this' or 'that'. I just love to feel good, make love and have sex and fuck and have fun, as long as its all positive energy. Some of you aren't as 'free' I guess, and feel the need to label yourself or confine yourself in some way to feel secure, ..i understand it, but just don't feel the need to throw labels on me because of your insecurities.

Thank you. :)

And are you a pothead Faulker? ;)

~BB~

lol, naw I'm not a pothead. I used to smoke a lot of pot tho! lol . Those days are over. But I do understand why you ask, ...a lot of potsmokers have the 'free spirited' mentality. However I was born with it naturally, lol,.. And I try to look at things from every angle/ perspective, ... just open minded I guess.

Oh I was just kidding because I AM a pothead. lol

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I did apologize. And I will again. I'm sorry if you feel I put words in your mouth. I don't know you to have any personal animosity towards you, but that doesn't mean I don't still disagree with the way you said what you did.

That's it. Why do you persist?

~BB~

Kewl. So sorry for 'reading' you out and calling you names. I don't know you either from anywhere.

On your last point, sure you can disagree with your own interpretation. That's really NOT disagreeing with me but with yourself. I hope you don't hear voices when you're 50! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

I did apologize. And I will again. I'm sorry if you feel I put words in your mouth. I don't know you to have any personal animosity towards you, but that doesn't mean I don't still disagree with the way you said what you did.

That's it. Why do you persist?

~BB~

Kewl. So sorry for 'reading' you out and calling you names. I don't know you either from anywhere.

On your last point, sure you can disagree with your own interpretation. That's really NOT disagreeing with me but with yourself. I hope you don't hear voices when you're 50! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

BANG! Ohh! Ya got me! lol

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Oh I was just kidding because I AM a pothead. lol

~BB~

^ exhibit A

:lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[jaycanuck]

K...relating to the thread. Straight.

I have to say this....This shit with Hara and Bella is really pissing me off. I haven't read it all (don't have that much time in a week). But every fucking thread I go into is hijacked by you two. Enough already. Take it somewhere else. Other dickheads like James and Mikechef...piss off too. Jesus fucking christ you kids.

[BellaBellucci]

Oh I was just kidding because I AM a pothead. lol

~BB~

Maybe you shouldn't post when you've smoked pot? :lol: That way you can read and understood what people meant in a post.

~Kisses.

HTG

Ouch! Shot me again! lol

Geez. Marijuana actually helps me think. It opens up my ability to channel the akashic. That's a complicated explanation for a whole other day.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

K...relating to the thread. Straight.

I have to say this....This shit with Hara and Bella is really pissing me off. I haven't read it all (don't have that much time in a week). But every fucking thread I go into is hijacked by you two. Enough already. Take it somewhere else. Other dickheads like James and Mikechef...piss off too. Jesus fucking christ you kids.

Not for nothing JAY, but do what I do - DO NOT CLICK THREADS THAT DOES NOT INTEREST YOU! And if you see me or Bella in it clic X

I don't got time reading whiners. Did you whine about the Chicago girls messy threads too awhile back? Shuddup U!

~Kisses.

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[jaycanuck]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I only date men...but will have sex with a girl if a guys is involved :)

[asianphoenixx]

men only for me.
Too bad really.. because it's nice to be bisexual

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

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[jaycanuck]

men only for me.
Too bad really.. because it's nice to be bisexual

sweeeeet. :wink:

[jaycanuck]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

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The thread wasn't called "lets get into a pissy cat-fight with Hara" was it? Taht's not why I entered it in the first place. But yet when I get in, I see 7 fucking pages of you two tearing it up.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

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The thread wasn't called "lets get into a pissy cat-fight with Hara" was it? Taht's not why I entered it in the first place. But yet when I get in, I see 7 fucking pages of you two tearing it up.

Yeah BUT YOU said you were sick of me and Bella. Then don't come in any threads WE make? Hows that for simplicity?

I'll NEVER come in yours!

Promise.. ;)

~Kisses.

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[tsmandy]

I like to fuck people of all gender presentations and body types. I don't think I would ever get romantically involved with another TS though (whether FTM or MTF).

Socially, I'm queer. I hang out with queer people (same sex loving, kinky, gender fuckups.) I don't really hang out with straight people all that often.

[BellaBellucci]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

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The thread wasn't called "lets get into a pissy cat-fight with Hara" was it? Taht's not why I entered it in the first place. But yet when I get in, I see 7 fucking pages of you two tearing it up.

Yeah BUT YOU said you were sick of me and Bella. Then don't come in any threads WE make? Hows that for simplicity?

I'll NEVER come in yours!

Promise.. ;)

~Kisses.

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Co-sign.

~BB~

[SarahG]

I think jaycanuck just wants in on all this fighting.

Hoping for a threesome?

lol I'm j/k

[BellaBellucci]

I think jaycanuck just wants in on all this fighting.

Hoping for a threesome?

lol I'm j/k

And here I was reading a thread about you being the sweetest girl on HA. :P

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

HTG

The thread wasn't called "lets get into a pissy cat-fight with Hara" was it? Taht's not why I entered it in the first place. But yet when I get in, I see 7 fucking pages of you two tearing it up.

Yeah BUT YOU said you were sick of me and Bella. Then don't come in any threads WE make? Hows that for simplicity?

I'll NEVER come in yours!

Promise.. ;)

~Kisses.

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Co-sign.

~BB~

FINALLY! Something we've both agreed upon! :lol:

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

HTG

The thread wasn't called "lets get into a pissy cat-fight with Hara" was it? Taht's not why I entered it in the first place. But yet when I get in, I see 7 fucking pages of you two tearing it up.

What can we say? We're good at it. :shrug

~BB~

[SarahG]

I think jaycanuck just wants in on all this fighting.

Hoping for a threesome?

lol I'm j/k

And here I was reading a thread about you being the sweetest girl on HA. :P

~BB~

Lies, all lies.

But I do frequently offend people by coming off too strongly OR not having my sarcasm understood.

[russtafa]

i suck dick and give and take anal so i must be gay.even if it is ladyboys

[jaycanuck]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

[Quiet Reflections]

Labels are weak. Just Be

[BellaBellucci]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

Yeah, ok, point taken. But you act like we PLANNED it this way, all of my joking about it aside. Sooo-ry. lol

~BB~

[jaycanuck]

s'ok...I'm stressed tonight for some reason. I have a headache...i'm off to bed. Night.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

Yeah, ok, point taken. But you act like we PLANNED it this way, all of my joking about it aside. Sooo-ry. lol

~BB~

Exactly! Jay go back perusing xxx pics and rubbing yourself! Maybe after you came you'd feel better? :lol:

~Kisses.

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[SarahG]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

So are you saying you don't want a threesome with Hara & BellaBellucci?

wow, I really botched trying to call that one.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

s'ok...I'm stressed tonight for some reason. I have a headache...i'm off to bed. Night.

Work related stress is NOT our problem! Don't give us that Jay!

We didn't contribute to ANY of your stresses..You want to feel good, don;t read, look at porn!! :lol:

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

So are you saying you don't want a threesome with Hara & BellaBellucci?

wow, I really botched trying to call that one.

There's been a strangely sexual undertone to this whole little flame war of ours, hasn't there? :twisted:

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

So are you saying you don't want a threesome with Hara & BellaBellucci?

wow, I really botched trying to call that one.

There's been a strangely sexual undertone to this whole little flame war of ours, hasn't there? :twisted:

~BB~

I call it ESTROGEN! :lol:

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

So are you saying you don't want a threesome with Hara & BellaBellucci?

wow, I really botched trying to call that one.

There's been a strangely sexual undertone to this whole little flame war of ours, hasn't there? :twisted:

~BB~

I call it ESTROGEN! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Co-sign again. Let's do this! :peanutbutter

~BB~

PS: We're really driving people nuts. I don't think they have a FUCKING CLUE what to make of us right now. Lovin' it. :P

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

lol Sarah. No...I just assume that if a thread is called something, I want to contribute to that. I don't expect it to be a trap and bait ploy to start a cat fight....no matter who's started it. From now on, why don't you two name your threads Get the fuck in here Hara / Bella, I want to beat the shit out of you.. Save everyone a lot of bullshit in the end. Cosign that.

So are you saying you don't want a threesome with Hara & BellaBellucci?

wow, I really botched trying to call that one.

There's been a strangely sexual undertone to this whole little flame war of ours, hasn't there? :twisted:

~BB~

I call it ESTROGEN! :lol:

~Kisses.

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Co-sign again. Let's do this! :peanutbutter

~BB~

PS: We're really driving people nuts now. I don't think they have a FUCKING CLUE what to make of us right now. Lovin' it. :P

lol And I don't giva hoot! People that knows me knows who I am! And for those that don't..who cares? That's NOT my loss! There are far too many guys out here in LA to keep me busy and entertained anyways. :lol:

~Kisses.

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[Nicole Dupre]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.Not in regards to Hara or Bella, but what's funny is when you know you're hearing bullshit and you're expected to swallow it. I love letting people go on with BS, because they're only grabbing enough rope to hang themselves. Sooner or later, everything comes out in the wash. That's why there are trannys. ;)

Ok, well with a statement like that, I'd hope you'd elaborate. Are you saying there's no such thing as pansexuality, that Hara needs to stop stalking me, or both?

~BB~I just said people getting called out can be funny, BUT NOT IN REGARDS TO HARA vs. BELLA. Although it's everywhere, and it's easy to get caught in it's path, please don't drag me into this. ;)

[BellaBellucci]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.Not in regards to Hara or Bella, but what's funny is when you know you're hearing bullshit and you're expected to swallow it. I love letting people go on with BS, because they're only grabbing enough rope to hang themselves. Sooner or later, everything comes out in the wash. That's why there are trannys. ;)

Ok, well with a statement like that, I'd hope you'd elaborate. Are you saying there's no such thing as pansexuality, that Hara needs to stop stalking me, or both?

~BB~I just said people getting called out can be funny, BUT NOT IN REGARDS TO HARA vs. BELLA. Although it's everywhere, and getting caught in it's path, please don't drag me into this. ;)

Sowwy. :oops: lol

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.Not in regards to Hara or Bella, but what's funny is when you know you're hearing bullshit and you're expected to swallow it. I love letting people go on with BS, because they're only grabbing enough rope to hang themselves. Sooner or later, everything comes out in the wash. That's why there are trannys. ;)

Ok, well with a statement like that, I'd hope you'd elaborate. Are you saying there's no such thing as pansexuality, that Hara needs to stop stalking me, or both?

~BB~I just said people getting called out can be funny, BUT NOT IN REGARDS TO HARA vs. BELLA. Although it's everywhere, and getting caught in it's path, please don't drag me into this. ;)

Sowwy. :oops: lol

~BB~NP. ;)

[tsmandy]

the term Disco stick makes me uncomfortable

[SarahG]

the term Disco stick makes me uncomfortable

That might be because disco was/is an atrocity.

[BellaBellucci]

liar liar pants on fire

Troll.
:actionsmiley

~BB~

[SarahG]

liar liar pants on fire

Troll.
:actionsmiley

~BB~

Calm down man it aint that serious.

But it is that serious

The internet is serious business.

[BLKGSXR]

stfu you gay guy sarah lol-wait is that right?

[SarahG]

stfu you gay guy sarah lol-wait is that right?

But that's just mean.

[BLKGSXR]

stfu you gay guy sarah lol-wait is that right?

But that's just mean.am I ever serious?

[SarahG]

stfu you gay guy sarah lol-wait is that right?

But that's just mean.am I ever serious?

Do you really think I was insulted?

[BLKGSXR]

stfu you gay guy sarah lol-wait is that right?

But that's just mean.am I ever serious?

Do you really think I was insulted?
Never- Lmfao

[AmericanDream]

Fuck no I ain't gay man.....hell no...

[BlkJewels]

I'll say bi, since I luv fuckin both, girls and tgirls. I"ll never say it openly, because gay guys dont seem 2 get that.

[transmaven]

disco was/is an atrocity?

that's like saying ice cream is an atrocity :P

please spend some time on this page:

http://www.youtube.com/user/FranklinDisco

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Fuck no I ain't gay man.....hell no...

AHHHHHH SHUUTTT UPP!

You still haven't showed me proof that I said post op's are not women! :roll:

~Kisses.

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[rameses2]

I made this point on another board, oh, I'm straight btw, that ass play and pegging, with a GG, is straight sex and if a Transwoman is fully prepare to transition, then sex with her is straight, no? Also, I thought this was funny: when I typed "ass play" in on the other board, the spell check on my computer knew I spelt it wrong :lol: !

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

the term Disco stick makes me uncomfortable

I imagined it to be a BIG glowing scepter! lol

~Kisses.

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[tsmandy]

the term Disco stick makes me uncomfortable

I imagined it to be a BIG glowing scepter! lol

~Kisses.

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Not necessarily uncomfortable in a bad way, just a little uneasy. Its just a funny term.

Glowing huh? Let me know when you find that guy.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

the term Disco stick makes me uncomfortable

I imagined it to be a BIG glowing scepter! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Not necessarily uncomfortable in a bad way, just a little uneasy. Its just a funny term.

Glowing huh? Let me know when you find that guy.

I know..but song writers you know? I bet that used to be something dirty _____ dick..but was changed for commercial release..Oh an glow in the dark condoms! ;)

~Kisses.

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[giovanni_hotel]

pansexuality is the new Bi.

[BellaBellucci]

pansexuality is the new Bi.

Happily agreed. :)

~BB~

[LibertyHarkness]

i like men, women and ts ...i would happily date any of them if i felt strong enough to want to be in a relationship with that person...i dont really gravitate to one sex over the other.

my own personal sexual preferrance i am passive ...i would guess in simplistic terms for society to understand me i am bisexual.....

[BellaBellucci]

i like men, women and ts ...i would happily date any of them if i felt strong enough to want to be in a relationship with that person...i dont really gravitate to one sex over the other.

my own personal sexual preferrance i am passive ...i would guess in simplistic terms for society to understand me i am bisexual.....

I dunno. That sounds pretty pansexual to me if you include TS's.

~BB~

[LibertyHarkness]

could be yes, but lets just say to the deemed current society that dont really have much understanding there are 3 sexual orientation gay/straight and bisexual ...

When people ask me what i am i just say bisexual girls/boys for me ... i deem all TS women as girls.

[BellaBellucci]

could be yes, but lets just say to the deemed current society that dont really have much understanding there are 3 sexual orientation gay/straight and bisexual ...

When people ask me what i am i just say bisexual girls/boys for me ... i deem all TS women as girls.

I do that too sometimes. I always feel guilty about it though because it feels like a lie. :shrug

~BB~

[JeniferTS]

I'm pansexual. I'm not straight, gay, or even bi. Probably neither are you. This came up in another thread so in case you don't know what it means...

~BB~

Wait, on the duke chute thread, in the beginning of that thread - you said you was straight and after a couple of pages - that you're a top and didn't like anal sex. Then towards the end of that thread you claimed you're a woman and doesn't either like to top or bottom and was inexperienced (But have topped and bottom for clients). Then you also added, that you believe sexuality is 'fluid'. Now on this thread, you're saying you're nor straight, gay or even bi but pansexual? But you also said you hate labels.

How does one become such a chameleon? Are you confused about your sexuality..cos we all are. Care to explain?

:?

~Kisses.

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before i keep reading this thread i have to say this had me rolling :lol:

[JeniferTS]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.

I enjoy watching chasers kiss the asses of their favorite girls. Do you think for yourself or does Hara just upload her programming directly into your brain? Your opinion is biased at best, trolling at worst.

You played the loyal puppydog to her on the duke chute thread and it's clear that you're doing it here too.

~BB~

lmfao..now this is entertainment :lol:

[BellaBellucci]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.

I enjoy watching chasers kiss the asses of their favorite girls. Do you think for yourself or does Hara just upload her programming directly into your brain? Your opinion is biased at best, trolling at worst.

You played the loyal puppydog to her on the duke chute thread and it's clear that you're doing it here too.

~BB~

lmfao..now this is entertainment :lol:

Uhh. Ok. Well this flamewar is over #1. #2, if people still don't understand my sexuality after I've included a TECHNICAL DEFINITION, then I'd say that's their problem at this point (rofl!). #3, I thought you were voted one of the sweetest here. You're not exactly showing that side of yourself here as you judge someone you don't know and clearly didn't bother to attempt to learn anything about.

Nice to meet you too. :roll:

~BB~

[seanbeag7]

I am bi, i like both pussy and cock- especially lb and tranny ones lol.

[JeniferTS]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

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The thread wasn't called "lets get into a pissy cat-fight with Hara" was it? Taht's not why I entered it in the first place. But yet when I get in, I see 7 fucking pages of you two tearing it up.

ROFL

[JeniferTS]

I enjoy people getting called out on their bullshit.

I enjoy watching chasers kiss the asses of their favorite girls. Do you think for yourself or does Hara just upload her programming directly into your brain? Your opinion is biased at best, trolling at worst.

You played the loyal puppydog to her on the duke chute thread and it's clear that you're doing it here too.

~BB~

lmfao..now this is entertainment :lol:

Uhh. Ok. Well this flamewar is over #1. #2, if people still don't understand my sexuality after I've included a TECHNICAL DEFINITION, then I'd say that's their problem at this point (rofl!). #3, I thought you were voted one of the sweetest here. You're not exactly showing that side of yourself here as you judge someone you don't know and clearly didn't bother to attempt to learn anything about.

Nice to meet you too. :roll:

~BB~

lol wth you talking to? lol

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

No, because everythread wasn't turned into some grade 2 bullshit. Grow the fuck up you two. Perhaps a Mod would like to join in on this.

Hmm..people who aren't interested with this thread bella created and who participated in here and yet is here? - then stay out? Who are you, the new HA police?

Threads and post are the life blood of forums!

~Kisses.

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The thread wasn't called "lets get into a pissy cat-fight with Hara" was it? Taht's not why I entered it in the first place. But yet when I get in, I see 7 fucking pages of you two tearing it up.

ROFL

Don't mind bald Jay. He just need a shot in the ass and his temperature taken via his big mouth with a fat shecock!

:lol:

~Kisses.

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[hippifried]

Well I'm certainly happy that everybody's so gay.

This isn't a great recording, but I like the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMrfA7YybRk

[jaycanuck]

Don't mind bald Jay. He just need a shot in the ass and his temperature taken via his big mouth with a fat shecock!

:lol:

~Kisses.

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It's better to give than receive.

[Pepa_e_Mango]

I'm all man, but I do enjoy a stiff cock in my ass, as well as sucking a nice cock.

[Alyssa87]

i wonder if people would label females who date transgirls as straight, the way the label men who do as gay.

[tsmandy]

My girlfriend doesn't think of herself as straight. She has dated women and men her whole life, and she considers this relationship a decidedly lesbian one. People think of us as a lesbian couple, maybe if they knew I was trans they would think differently, but within the dyke community we've never been told we don't belong.

[Alyssa87]

My girlfriend doesn't think of herself as straight. She has dated women and men her whole life, and she considers this relationship a decidedly lesbian one. People think of us as a lesbian couple, maybe if they knew I was trans they would think differently, but within the dyke community we've never been told we don't belong.


oh how i wish i liked girls. lol

the dyke community is the coolest in all the rainbow. hands down.

[BellaBellucci]

My girlfriend doesn't think of herself as straight. She has dated women and men her whole life, and she considers this relationship a decidedly lesbian one. People think of us as a lesbian couple, maybe if they knew I was trans they would think differently, but within the dyke community we've never been told we don't belong.


oh how i wish i liked girls. lol

the dyke community is the coolest in all the rainbow. hands down.

... until they find out you're trans. Transphobia knows no boundaries - even in the gay community. It's sad really.

I once had a decidedly ugly lesbian walk up to me in a gay bar once and ask 'are you a real girl?' I replied, 'do I look fake to you?' She said something like, 'well you're really pretty, but you never know around here,' and went on her merry way.

It's funny. These things never happen to me at straight clubs. Because gay people more easily detect transpeople (or at least think they do because they think they know what to look for), they're not shy about asking like cisgendered people. That doesn't mean I feel any more obligated to divulge anything to them. EVERYONE is judgmental - just look at the way we all attack each other on these forums.

~BB~

[Alyssa87]

never had a run-in like that.

gay men give me shit sometimes. never girls.

but youre right. hate is everywhere.

[tsmandy]

My girlfriend doesn't think of herself as straight. She has dated women and men her whole life, and she considers this relationship a decidedly lesbian one. People think of us as a lesbian couple, maybe if they knew I was trans they would think differently, but within the dyke community we've never been told we don't belong.


oh how i wish i liked girls. lol

the dyke community is the coolest in all the rainbow. hands down.

... until they find out you're trans. Transphobia knows no boundaries - even in the gay community. It's sad really.

I once had a decidedly ugly lesbian walk up to me in a gay bar once and ask 'are you a real girl?' I replied, 'do I look fake to you?' She said something like, 'well you're really pretty, but you never know around here,' and went on her merry way.

It's funny. These things never happen to me at straight clubs. Because gay people more easily detect transpeople (or at least think they do because they think they know what to look for), they're not shy about asking like cisgendered people. That doesn't mean I feel any more obligated to divulge anything to them. EVERYONE is judgmental - just look at the way we all attack each other on these forums.

~BB~

The lesbian community is different than the dyke community. Most dyke community at this point is supportive of trans inclusion, especially since so many butch dykes up and transitioned in the late 90's thru recently. The entire lesbian community was pretty drastically disrupted, and because of that trans people are much more a part of peoples consciousness.

In most spaces I hang out in, nobody would say shit like that because they wouldn't be welcome back. Too many dykes have either trans men or trans women lovers, its far more common than you would think.

[BellaBellucci]

The lesbian community is different than the dyke community. Most dyke community at this point is supportive of trans inclusion, especially since so many butch dykes up and transitioned in the late 90's thru recently. The entire lesbian community was pretty drastically disrupted, and because of that trans people are much more a part of peoples consciousness.

In most spaces I hang out in, nobody would say shit like that because they wouldn't be welcome back. Too many dykes have either trans men or trans women lovers, its far more common than you would think.

Wow. Interesting info. Are you gonna hook me up now? I'm single and lovin' it. ;)

~BB~

[JeniferTS]

alyssa87..cute avatar.

[Ben]

Who can resist Brad Pitt???????

[Nashvegas]

alyssa87..cute avatar.

100% agree

[seanbeag7]

I have had plenty of problems with gay people since i was always bi and now i just accept that i love both some gg's and i love lb's, tranny's and shemales.

i just hate gay guys who are crossdressers, they think they know everything about dressing up, and it annoys me to no-end.

When i am asked why i like transexuals, i always smile and then say cause they are different and in Ireland, we have a old saying " what is different,is wonderful ", so i think i should be ok if i stick to that. :D

[armando57]

I would suck the right cock, be it on a guy or a tranny. And when I suck, I swallow.

[LibertyHarkness]

i am just a faggot with tits :) now suck my shesnake bitches :)

hehe no seriously i classify myself as bisexual ...in that i like men and women ...

[seanbeag7]

And i quite like you too xx :oops:

[buckjohnson]

I prob could not be involved, emotionally or physically with a tran. I know I could not be invovled with a man. I am into grandmas and Asians now.

[hippifried]

Pansexual, huh? :shock:

[drock]

I'm pansexual. I'm not straight, gay, or even bi. Probably neither are you. This came up in another thread so in case you don't know what it means...

~BB~

Wait, on the duke chute thread, in the beginning of that thread - you said you was straight and after a couple of pages - that you're a top. Then towards the end of that thread you claimed you're a woman and doesn't really like to top or bottom (and was inexperienced). But have topped and bottom for clients. Then you also added, that you believe sexuality is fluid. Now on this thread, you're saying you're nor straight, gay or even bi but pansexual?

How does one become such a chameleon? Are you confused about your sexuality..cos we all are. Care to explain?

:?

~Kisses.

HTG

I NEVER said I was straight. I was a straight male and started exploring alternate sexualities as I transitioned. The way I see it, if I'm going to be accepted as gender-fluid, then I need to accept that trait in others.

As far as sexual acts I've said I've tried everything, done some things many, many times, and find bottoming painful but am open to exploring. I also never said I was inexperienced. I said with bottoming, I've had BAD experiences.

Honey, seriously. Where do you come up with some of this stuff? My story hasn't changed one bit; only your interpretation has in order to serve your own needs. I thought we were done with this. Either you're not or you're trying to figure out if I'd be sexually attracted to you.

I'm sorry, but I'm not.

~BB~

lol well maybe she wants to fuck you anyway?

[Andrew Johnson]

who gives a fuck :roll:

Yeah, this pretty much sums it up for me too.

Whatever I do works for me....so other than that, I don't really care.

[lordworm]

What if you like GGs and TGs? And you like TGs more for their feminine aspects, but you still find their extra package hot, but not necessarily to insert it into yourself.

What would this qualify as?

[Chaotic]

What if you like GGs and TGs? And you like TGs more for their feminine aspects, but you still find their extra package hot, but not necessarily to insert it into yourself.

What would this qualify as?

A little freaky! :wink:

[BellaBellucci]

Pansexual, huh? :shock:

I'm actually surprised it took so long for someone to make this connection.

I hardly think I'm the only Pagan around here! lol

~BB~

[SarahG]

Pansexual, huh? :shock:

I'm actually surprised it took so long for someone to make this connection.

I hardly think I'm the only Pagan around here! lol

~BB~

For some people I think its a non-story :shrug

I would hope anyway, that this board wouldn't be the right place to get that "omg wtf you're a pagan!?" reaction. I mean seriously, this isn't a tent revival meeting or a evangelical megachurch. :lol:

[BellaBellucci]

Pansexual, huh? :shock:

I'm actually surprised it took so long for someone to make this connection.

I hardly think I'm the only Pagan around here! lol

~BB~

For some people I think its a non-story :shrug

I would hope anyway, that this board wouldn't be the right place to get that "omg wtf you're a pagan!?" reaction. I mean seriously, this isn't a tent revival meeting or a evangelical megachurch. :lol:

Nah. We're all evil devil worshipers. Everybody here knows that! Come on, get with it. HAIL LUCIFER! rofl

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm a leprechaunsexual; meaning, I like to get drunk and have sex with shady little Irish guys. :P

[rockabilly]

Nicole just wants my lucky charms.

[seanbeag7]

Well i am Irish, so when are you available to have sex with me. :D

[phobun]

Well i am Irish, so when are you available to have sex with me. :DHow is your being Irish relevant?

Why are Irish people always celebrating themselves?

[FIRSTTIMER]

I would vote but the definition of the word pansexual is kinda new to me.I consider myself straight because of I love girls.But,because of my sexual attaction to t-girls most would consider me gay or even bisexual.

If it makes me bisexual than I guess I am "bi".If it makes me pansexual than I guess I am "pan".

I find alot of t-girls attractive because to me they are girls.That is who they are on the inside and that is the way I treat them.

[MrF]

Maybe just an ignorant question, but if you only like women and TS, but not men, what does that make you ? Seems not to fit any of the categories. Not that it's all that important, though. Just curious.

[FIRSTTIMER]

That is the question I have been trying to answer myself.I am in the same boat as you.
I guess that is what the word pansexual was thaught of for.But the definition is not quite clear to me.

I guess we are in the category of "bluh".No word for it :shrug

But because most girls have their penis still I guess we are bisexual :shrug.Right?

[lordworm]

I...don't...know....

[francisfkudrow]

I'm a leprechaunsexual; meaning, I like to get drunk and have sex with shady little Irish guys. :P

Well, I'm not too little (5'8") but I am a shady Irish guy. LOL

[droog]

Maybe just an ignorant question, but if you only like women and TS, but not men, what does that make you ? Seems not to fit any of the categories. Not that it's all that important, though. Just curious.

there is no category for this because there is nothing in the medical world which denotes transsexual as a gender. so it's kind of a gray area in that respect... so we (both ts and men) have the category option open to us. we can call ourselves gay, straight, bi, pan, omni, etc.. but in reality, society considers both ts and the men who like them as gay. and that's just how it is. i definitely don't agree with this and i wish it were different, but it's not.

[LittleGuy]

I dont think youve got a clue yet.

[SarahG]

Maybe just an ignorant question, but if you only like women and TS, but not men, what does that make you ? Seems not to fit any of the categories. Not that it's all that important, though. Just curious.

there is no category for this because there is nothing in the medical world which denotes transsexual as a gender. so it's kind of a gray area in that respect... so we (both ts and men) have the category option open to us. we can call ourselves gay, straight, bi, pan, omni, etc.. but in reality, society considers both ts and the men who like them as gay. and that's just how it is. i definitely don't agree with this and i wish it were different, but it's not.

While the medical world only really has three categories for gender (male, female, and intersexed), there is a psychological term for people who are attracted to trans people; Gynandromorphophilia for people into MtF's, and Andromimetophilia for people into FtM's.

Blanchard and a few others are as we speak, trying to get the two terms defined as psychological illnesses for the DSM5

I guess is the idea is that it would make the "am I gay?" debates a moot point; anyone who finds a tgirl attractive, whether they be a guy or a GG- will simply be labeled mentally ill for it; it would not be considered "normal" for any person, let alone any "straight" person.

[lordworm]

People jump out and say illness instead of realizing it's a kind of fetish? That's fucking ridiculous.

[Teydyn]

How is your being Irish relevant?
Read 2 posts above:


meaning, I like to get drunk and have sex with shady little Irish guys. :P




I dont think youve got a clue yet.
When you throw insults around, maybe quote WHO you are referring to? :)

[andyuk]

i dont fancy guys.
but my last ts,girl well i let her make love to me.
after about the 6th or 7th time i kinda got to liking it more.,
if that makes me gay then so be it

[Helvis2012]

if one has sex with a TS it means one is gay. period.



Not quite. The person may not be straight but that doesn't equal gay......only in a tiny, Jimmy Swaggert-styled mind..

[hippifried]

" :cry: I have sinned against you, Lord! :cry:"

It was fun too! :D

[Helvis2012]

i dont fancy guys.
but my last ts,girl well i let her make love to me.
after about the 6th or 7th time i kinda got to liking it more.,
if that makes me gay then so be it

You go girl! :claps

[DC]

Panty boy is a FAG

[BLKGSXR]

Panty boy is a FAGLmfao DC your crazy bro

[DL_NL]

Whatever you call it (in fact I don't really care what you call it, the only thing that matters is that I feel good) I'm not in the least attracted to men. I love GGs and TGs, and I'm in no way confused about that. I also don't care much for labels nor do I care to judge anyone for their sexual preferences. If you're happy the way you are, that's all that matters.

[jcinva]

Whatever you call it (in fact I don't really care what you call it, the only thing that matters is that I feel good) I'm not in the least attracted to men. I love GGs and TGs, and I'm in no way confused about that. I also don't care much for labels nor do I care to judge anyone for their sexual preferences. If you're happy the way you are, that's all that matters.

Well. There ya go! Nothing else matter's so long as "I feel good."

If it makes me feel good, I can bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate the facts in my personal pursuit of my next wad.

Thank you for articulating the support behind all the bullshit so very concisely.

If I want to stick prosthetic teeth in my mouth and a furry tail up my ass, and I really, really, want to make it so, then I'm a real bunny, and no-one has the legal or moral right to say it ain't so. If you disagree with me, you're a narrow-minded Nazi.

And anyone who wants to line up to suck my bunny cock - well, it's not gay; just a passing interest in bestiality.

Margery Williams would be so proud.

[DL_NL]

What kind of bullshit is that?

Nobody has the right to judge others on their idea of sexuality, unless it hurts others. Don't confuse the stupid narrow-minded US morale with the way people should really treat each other... I don't judge you on what you do in your bedroom, because it doesn't concern or affect me. You don't have the right to judge me (should you choose to do so, I will value your opinion based on what I've paid for it).

You should really learn to think for yourself instead of repeating worn-out mediaeval doctrines. As long as the majority of the US keeps on thinking like you, we'll be seeing many more of those stupid 'am I gay' topics here.

[chefmike]

What kind of bullshit is that?

Nobody has the right to judge others on their idea of sexuality, unless it hurts others. Don't confuse the stupid narrow-minded US morale with the way people should really treat each other... I don't judge you on what you do in your bedroom, because it doesn't concern or affect me. You don't have the right to judge me (should you choose to do so, I will value your opinion based on what I've paid for it).

You should really learn to think for yourself instead of repeating worn-out mediaeval doctrines. As long as the majority of the US keeps on thinking like you, we'll be seeing many more of those stupid 'am I gay' topics here.

All them tulip sniffers is cock smokers from the git go....

http://www.hungdevils.com/index.php?showtopic=4555

[DL_NL]

Right, when one Dutchman is crazy, they must all be... so you're another crazy-ass Unabomber?