do you just like hitting the duke chutes, part #2

[tsbrenda]

why do you see a tranny part #2

duke chutes = asshole


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa124/eat_applesauce/sexy-apple.jpg

[JamesHunt]

what you on Brenda, I want some of it :lol:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[JamesHunt]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).



HTG

Just out of curiosity Hara, how many guys get into trannys then move onto men?

[raybbaby]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fuking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
Meh, I don't think it's as simple as 1 of 2 reasons. I have only lived in LA 7 months, maybe set foot in my first TS club 6 months ago. I certainly wasn't thinking about specific sex acts. I was just dumbstruck by how cute, and how attracted I in fact was, to TS women. Just not an area I got to explore in Ferndale.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).



HTG

Just out of curiosity Hara, how many guys get into trannys then move onto men?

lol You'd be surprised (I know a few actually). But that should be another thread. I'm sure fellow tg's can share their insights and experiences on this matter.

Like most gay men would tell me.."It's just a matter of time, before he swings and bats (play) for our team!" lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fuking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
Meh, I don't think it's as simple as 1 of 2 reasons. I have only lived in LA 7 months, maybe set foot in my first TS club 6 months ago. I certainly wasn't thinking about specific sex acts. I was just dumbstruck by how cute, and how attracted I in fact was, to TS women. Just not an area I got to explore in Ferndale.

Come on! How many men would really date, live in or marry one? Not very many. Though since this is a tranny forum, we always hear the most political answer the one above or: I like trannies and I see them as women bullcrap. It's nothing but pure icing really when push comes to shove..they go gay or get married and have kids with women. I'm sure there's a few but the majority are just in it for the thrill of some shecock and asspussy if you ask me (and that's being honest)! ;)

And raybbaby, do you think you'd moved out here if LA is much like Ferndale? ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[phobun]

Just out of curiosity Hara, how many guys get into trannys then move onto men?

lol You'd be surprised (I know a few actually). But that should be another thread. I'm sure fellow tg's can share their insights and experiences on this matter.

Like most gay men would tell me.."It's just a matter of time, before he swings and bats (play) for our team!"

SB is correct, he already plays for that team, in the position of powerbottom.

[tsbrenda]

you got to try some Diprivan aka Propofol

it will give you a WICKED RIDE


SPACEY


HANG 10 DUDE




what you on Brenda, I want some of it :lol:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

@phobun

Rofl

Don't we know it! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[JamesHunt]

lol You'd be surprised (I know a few actually). But that should be another thread. I'm sure fellow tg's can share their insights and experiences on this matter.

Like most gay men would tell me.."It's just a matter of time, before he swings and bats (play) for our team!" lol

~Kisses.

HTG

I just started it

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=710054

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

'With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!'

Really? Really now? An ass is not a vagina. While many of us will have our asses fucked on video or in photos, most girls who subscribe to this mentality in their real life don't do so because they enjoy it... they do it because their PARTNER enjoys it and it somehow makes them feel like a woman. It's EXTREMELY difficult to please a girl (of any kind) anally - but that doesn't stop girls from faking it because it allows them to feel like women, but...

NEWS FLASH: MOST (almost ALL) Born women hate anal sex because it is NOT comfortable; not to mention that not every TS was gay before transition, therefore, ass fucking is NOT a given and personally I take an enormous amount of offense to that.

NOT EVERY TRANNY WILL LET YOU FUCK HER IN THE ASS... MOST GG'S WILL NOT.

Sure, there are a few that will, but more often than not you have to deal with the 'validation' issues to get to that point and if ANY want ME for that, they can take a hike. Many of us, myself included, validate our femininity in much safer and cleaner ways especially considering that anal sex will NEVER make ANYONE a woman.

If you enjoy it, great, to each their own, but how a person has sex has nothing to do with who they are as a person.

The sooner girls learn this, the sooner they can greatly reduce their risk of HIV and find other avenues to improve their validation and self-esteem.

A dick in ones ass does not make them woman. Believe that.

~BB~

http://lh5.ggpht.com/drgcgeorge/Rd8VLn5bh_I/AAAAAAAABWo/6EOX8GFZ1Bo/s288/IMG_6716.JPG

[tsbrenda]

the g spot on women is stimulated while the prostate on men gets the stimulation

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

'With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!'

Really? Really now? An ass is not a vagina. While many of us will have our asses fucked on video or in photos, most girls who subscribe to this mentality in their real life don't do so because they enjoy it... they do it because their PARTNER enjoys it and it somehow makes them feel like a woman. It's EXTREMELY difficult to please a girl (of any kind) anally - but that doesn't stop girls from faking it because it allows them to feel like women, but...

NEWS FLASH: MOST (almost ALL) Born women hate anal sex because it is NOT comfortable; not to mention that not every TS was gay before transition, therefore, ass fucking is NOT a given and personally I take an enormous amount of offense to that.

NOT EVERY TRANNY WILL LET YOU FUCK HER IN THE ASS... MOST GG'S WILL NOT.

Sure, there are a few that will, but more often than not you have to deal with the 'validation' issues to get to that point and if ANY want ME for that, they can take a hike. Many of us, myself included, validate our femininity in much safer and cleaner ways especially considering that anal sex will NEVER make ANYONE a woman.

If you enjoy it, great, to each their own, but how a person has sex has nothing to do with who they are as a person.

The sooner girls learn this, the sooner they can greatly reduce their risk of HIV and find other avenues to improve their validation and self-esteem.

A dick in ones ass does not make them woman. Believe that.

~BB~

http://lh5.ggpht.com/drgcgeorge/Rd8VLn5bh_I/AAAAAAAABWo/6EOX8GFZ1Bo/s288/IMG_6716.JPG

About my statement "With trannies, ass fucking is a given"

1. It is what is used to rival a pussy. It's there to act as a substitute - aren't gg's on the rag use their ass at some point to pleasure their partners?!?

2. And because its THERE! Doesn't necessarily mean YOU have to use it for penetration. You can use your armpits or thighs or nose (if you could fit a dick in it). lol

No need to feel offended by my statement. Like what I've said, these are what we hear often on HA. I was just saying men 'expect' some ass fucking with tg's more than they do GG's.

And about validation, sex does NOT validate anything. You can sleep with a thousand men and that does not prove you to be womanly over a gg or tg who's slept with 5 nor even prettier etc. You could feel as 'womanly' as the next tg virgin (who hasn't had sex) IF you feel it. No man or amount of men can validate that for you but yourself.

Lighten up!

~Kisses.

HTG

[giovanni_hotel]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).


HTG

SO if a dude is into TGs and goes down on a girl, he's a fag in denial? :?

Some of you girls have more mental hangups than fifty GGs on their worst day!!

There's like this passive hostility towards men who are actually interested in them sexually.

I don't know for other dudes, but if I'm fucking someone regular, at some point I'm gonna have feelings - it can't be helped.

The OP's original question is stupid, because ALL men start on the outside, with your appearance, and work backwards to the inside.

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG


'With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!'

Really? Really now? An ass is not a vagina. While many of us will have our asses fucked on video or in photos, most girls who subscribe to this mentality in their real life don't do so because they enjoy it... they do it because their PARTNER enjoys it and it somehow makes them feel like a woman. It's EXTREMELY difficult to please a girl (of any kind) anally - but that doesn't stop girls from faking it because it allows them to feel like women, but...

NEWS FLASH: MOST (almost ALL) Born women hate anal sex because it is NOT comfortable; not to mention that not every TS was gay before transition, therefore, ass fucking is NOT a given and personally I take an enormous amount of offense to that.

NOT EVERY TRANNY WILL LET YOU FUCK HER IN THE ASS... MOST GG'S WILL NOT.

Sure, there are a few that will, but more often than not you have to deal with the 'validation' issues to get to that point and if ANY want ME for that, they can take a hike. Many of us, myself included, validate our femininity in much safer and cleaner ways especially considering that anal sex will NEVER make ANYONE a woman.

If you enjoy it, great, to each their own, but how a person has sex has nothing to do with who they are as a person.

The sooner girls learn this, the sooner they can greatly reduce their risk of HIV and find other avenues to improve their validation and self-esteem.

A dick in ones ass does not make them woman. Believe that.

~BB~

http://lh5.ggpht.com/drgcgeorge/Rd8VLn5bh_I/AAAAAAAABWo/6EOX8GFZ1Bo/s288/IMG_6716.JPG



About my statement "With trannies, ass fucking is a given"
1. It is what is used to rival a pussy. It's there to act as a substitute!

No, it's not. It's there to excrete solid waste. Maybe you need a biology lesson or SRS, but AN ASS IS NOT A PUSSY!

Let me say that again so we all understand, while an ass MAY BE USED like a pussy if it's mutually pleasurable, then fine, but still... AN ASS IS NOT A PUSSY and not everyone enjoys it - not even TS women.



2. And because its THERE! Doesn't necessarily mean YOU have to use it for penetration. You can use your armpits or thighs or nose (if you could fit a dick in it). lol

I love that you say this because it justifies my point about 1000% or more. I never said it CAN'T be used for sex - I said that it's not its intended purpose.



No need to feel offended by my statement. I was just saying men 'expect' some ass fucking with tg's more than they do GG's.

Then men would be wrong to expect that. If it's an 'expectation' then it's an EXTREMELY pretentious one as I can't count on my fingers and toes (or yours for that matter) how many men have erupted practically in violence or asked 'well what do you do then?' as if there is nothing else a man and a tranny can do besides fuck ass. To me it shows a COMPLETE lack of imagination and class.

Not to mention this example: a girl is on the rag and she doesn't want it in her pussy. Does that mean there's something wrong with her because she won't use her ass as a substitute? I think not, and any man who thinks otherwise is sure to find their way to the door.



And about validation, sex does NOT validate anything. You could feel as 'womanly' as the next tg virgin (who hasn't had sex) IF you feel it. No man can validate that for you but yourself.


Maybe this is true for some of us, but it's false for so many others. Not only do many trannies validate themselves this way whether you want to admit it or not, but so do the men that they're with.

I prefer to top, but if you know anything about me, it has NO bearing whatsoever on who I am.

General rule of thumb? It's not just the ass fucking that a lot of guys want, it's also their OWN validation for their misygoynistic attitudes that born-women would NEVER put up with in a million years.

You want to top, then fine, but if ALL you do is top, then you don't want a woman - you want a cum receptacle or else you'd find a GG.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

'With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!'

Really? Really now? An ass is not a vagina. While many of us will have our asses fucked on video or in photos, most girls who subscribe to this mentality in their real life don't do so because they enjoy it... they do it because their PARTNER enjoys it and it somehow makes them feel like a woman. It's EXTREMELY difficult to please a girl (of any kind) anally - but that doesn't stop girls from faking it because it allows them to feel like women, but...

NEWS FLASH: MOST (almost ALL) Born women hate anal sex because it is NOT comfortable; not to mention that not every TS was gay before transition, therefore, ass fucking is NOT a given and personally I take an enormous amount of offense to that.

NOT EVERY TRANNY WILL LET YOU FUCK HER IN THE ASS... MOST GG'S WILL NOT.

Sure, there are a few that will, but more often than not you have to deal with the 'validation' issues to get to that point and if ANY want ME for that, they can take a hike. Many of us, myself included, validate our femininity in much safer and cleaner ways especially considering that anal sex will NEVER make ANYONE a woman.

If you enjoy it, great, to each their own, but how a person has sex has nothing to do with who they are as a person.

The sooner girls learn this, the sooner they can greatly reduce their risk of HIV and find other avenues to improve their validation and self-esteem.

A dick in ones ass does not make them woman. Believe that.

~BB~

http://lh5.ggpht.com/drgcgeorge/Rd8VLn5bh_I/AAAAAAAABWo/6EOX8GFZ1Bo/s288/IMG_6716.JPG

you must not be getting any dick

That's not true. I just don't want anyone putting theirs where it doesn't belong. Porn is fantasy. Again, if it weren't born girls would be fucking ass like bunny rabbits.

~BB~

[giovanni_hotel]

I dig your whole package overall Bella, but for real, if I was making out and squeezing and kneading those buns for about an hour, at some point I'm gonna very politely ask, "how about you let me stroke that ass?":)

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).


HTG

SO if a dude is into TGs and goes down on a girl, he's a fag in denial? :?

Some of you girls have more mental hangups than fifty GGs on their worst day!!

There's like this passive hostility towards men who are actually interested in them sexually.

I don't know for other dudes, but if I'm fucking someone regular, at some point I'm gonna have feelings - it can't be helped.

The OP's original question is stupid, because ALL men start on the outside, with your appearance, and work backwards to the inside.

For the record, I don't think anybody who does anything with a tranny is a fag, no matter what. In fact, I don't even use that word about anybody. Sex and gender to me are fluid, but that doesn't change the fact that not everyone likes anal sex - not even trannies and not gay tops.

Anal sex is SOOOOO overrated unless it's being filmed imho. This has nothing to do with sexual politics.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

2. While I agree asses aren't made for sex. But ancient facts supports that humans has had anal sex for centuries (look up history - particularly Greece, Rome etc.)

3. Could be lack of imagination or maybe you're just too naive to even acknowledge or neo tg but the fact remains: Men expect anal sex with tg's more than they do with women. That's a given. Unless of course you're a hermaphrodite then.. lol I guess if a girl is on the rag they could opt for a blowjob instead?

4. On your last point: It could well be because men in general are seen as superior therefore a woman also tg's are supposed to play that submissive role and take it up the ass? Then again, a lot of men these days are shall we say daring and experimental and are willing to bottom for the right circumstances. If you prefer to top then that's your thing. I prefer to do both! lol I believe in equality. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[LittleGuy]

@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

2. While I agree asses aren't made for sex. But ancient facts supports that humans has had anal sex for centuries (look up history - particularly Greece, Rome etc.)

3. Could be lack of imagination or maybe you're just too naive to even acknowledge or neo tg but the fact remains: Men expect anal sex with tg's more than they do with women. That's a given. Unless of course you're a hermaphrodite then.. lol I guess if a girl is on the rag they could opt for a blowjob instead?

4. On your last point: It could well be because men in general are seen as superior therefore a woman also tg's are supposed to play that submissive role and take it up the ass? Then again, a lot of men these days are shall we say daring and experimental and are willing to bottom for the right circumstances. If you prefer to top then that's your thing. I prefer to do both! lol I believe in equality. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

I think shes looking for a fight?

[HP1000]

I would like to remain neutral in my response.......

[BellaBellucci]

I dig your whole package overall Bella, but for real, if I was making out and squeezing and kneading those buns for about an hour, at some point I'm gonna very politely ask, "how about you let me stroke that ass?":)

lol you're cute. play your cards right and maybe i'll make you an exception. how big are you? :P lol

~BB~

[giovanni_hotel]

We'd have to use a LOT of lube and go REAL slow..LOL

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

SO if a dude is into TGs and goes down on a girl, he's a fag in denial? :?

Well. the reality is SHOCKING and SCARY isn't it? lol


Some of you girls have more mental hangups than fifty GGs on their worst day!!

Maybe true but let's just call it as it is. It's not a bad thing really. Guys into tg's must somehow accept some degree of responsibility you know? ;)


There's like this passive hostility towards men who are actually interested in them sexually.

Only because MOST men only uses tg's for sexual experimentation and sexual outlet. Other than that most men wouldn't be caught dead out and about with one..only a few to this day and age. I'm sure we all know why, right?


I don't know for other dudes, but if I'm fucking someone regular, at some point I'm gonna have feelings - it can't be helped.

I understand completely. You're not made of wood (even if you got one every morning ;) ) and so are we! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

I would like to remain neutral in my response.......
But I've dated a GG woman that literally raped my tounge with her asshole.
She would twist and girate her ass into my wet tounge untill her pussy was dripping all over the sheets, I swear I got two inches in her ass before she let me fuck her hot moist asshole with my cock..

I never said it was impossible. I said it was highly unlikely. That said: kudos! :) hehe

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

2. While I agree asses aren't made for sex. But ancient facts supports that humans has had anal sex for centuries (look up history - particularly Greece, Rome etc.)

3. Could be lack of imagination or maybe you're just too naive to even acknowledge or neo tg but the fact remains: Men expect anal sex with tg's more than they do with women. That's a given. Unless of course you're a hermaphrodite then.. lol I guess if a girl is on the rag they could opt for a blowjob instead?

4. On your last point: It could well be because men in general are seen as superior therefore a woman also tg's are supposed to play that submissive role and take it up the ass? Then again, a lot of men these days are shall we say daring and experimental and are willing to bottom for the right circumstances. If you prefer to top then that's your thing. I prefer to do both! lol I believe in equality. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

I think shes looking for a fight?

Not really..was just sharing my views. If anyone took offense to it oh fucking well. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[raybbaby]

There may in fact be a whole spectrum of men and different reasons for their wanting to be with TS girls. I don't think it's gay, not at all in my case. I just am not attracred to men. I will in fact not be batting for the other team any time in the forseeable future. And that's that. Am I gonna marry a TS girl? Not any time in the near future. Why not? Cuz I don't feel like getting fuggin' married. I can see, and do in fact know, a handful of men who live with their TS girlfriends.

[BellaBellucci]

@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

2. While I agree asses aren't made for sex. But ancient facts supports that humans has had anal sex for centuries (look up history - particularly Greece, Rome etc.)

3. Could be lack of imagination or maybe you're just too naive to even acknowledge or neo tg but the fact remains: Men expect anal sex with tg's more than they do with women. That's a given. Unless of course you're a hermaphrodite then.. lol I guess if a girl is on the rag they could opt for a blowjob instead?

4. On your last point: It could well be because men in general are seen as superior therefore a woman also tg's are supposed to play that submissive role and take it up the ass? Then again, a lot of men these days are shall we say daring and experimental and are willing to bottom for the right circumstances. If you prefer to top then that's your thing. I prefer to do both! lol I believe in equality. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

1. I never said you said that an ass was a pussy. Let's start there.

2. You're misconstruing my argument (what else is new around here?). I am not arguing the historical relevance of sodomy - I'm pointing out that, history aside, not everyone is into it - not even all TS girls and in fact many aren't.

3. I'm certainly not new and even farther away from being naive, but what 'ALL' or even 'MOST' men expect is none of my concern since I don't know them all. Much like women, there are plenty who do NOT want to fuck ass. If you're not meeting them, then you're in the wrong circles and I'll be more than happy to send you a donut to sit on.

4. Equality is fine, but for the last time, there are other ways to take care of a mans needs without putting something in your ass that can be painful and uncomfortable. When a man fucks a GG, her pussy is INTENTIONALLY designed for that purpose and an ass is not. I don't think anal sex is unnatural (alluding to your historical point), but I do think people need to respect that not every tranny wants it and MOST men and women don't (with exceptions of course) and you've yet to argue the point.

~BB~

PS: An argument with me is very much a losing proposition from jump. I can do this all nite. I'm not looking for trouble, but I'm not looking to lose a debate either.

[rockabilly]

:popcorn:

[BellaBellucci]

There may in fact be a whole spectrum of men and different reasons for their wanting to be with TS girls. I don't think it's gay, not at all in my case. I just am not attracred to men. I will in fact not be batting for the other team any time in the forseeable future. And that's that. Am I gonna marry a TS girl? Not any time in the near future. Why not? Cuz I don't feel like getting fuggin' married. I can see, and do in fact know, a handful of men who live with their TS girlfriends.

Example: Scott and Patty (you know who I mean) are both hot. I'd love a threesome with those two. :P

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

2. While I agree asses aren't made for sex. But ancient facts supports that humans has had anal sex for centuries (look up history - particularly Greece, Rome etc.)

3. Could be lack of imagination or maybe you're just too naive to even acknowledge or neo tg but the fact remains: Men expect anal sex with tg's more than they do with women. That's a given. Unless of course you're a hermaphrodite then.. lol I guess if a girl is on the rag they could opt for a blowjob instead?

4. On your last point: It could well be because men in general are seen as superior therefore a woman also tg's are supposed to play that submissive role and take it up the ass? Then again, a lot of men these days are shall we say daring and experimental and are willing to bottom for the right circumstances. If you prefer to top then that's your thing. I prefer to do both! lol I believe in equality. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

1. I never said you said that an ass was a pussy. Let's start there.

2. You're misconstruing my argument (what else is new around here?). I am not arguing the historical relevance of sodomy - I'm pointing out that, history aside, not everyone is into it - not even all TS girls and in fact many aren't.

3. I'm certainly not new and even farther away from being naive, but what 'ALL' or even 'MOST' men expect is none of my concern since I don't know them all. Much like women, there are plenty who do NOT want to fuck ass. If you're not meeting them, then you're in the wrong circles and I'll be more than happy to send you a donut to sit on.

4. Equality is fine, but for the last time, there are other ways to take care of a mans needs without putting something in your ass that can be painful and uncomfortable. When a man fucks a GG, her pussy is INTENTIONALLY designed for that purpose and an ass is not. I don't think anal sex is unnatural (alluding to your historical point), but I do think people need to respect that not every tranny wants it and MOST men and women don't (with exceptions of course) and you've yet to argue the point.

~BB~

PS: An argument with me is very much a losing proposition from jump. I can do this all nite. I'm not looking for trouble, but I'm not looking to lose a debate either.

On 2. Roger that! I never said everyone was into it. I said that the majority of men who are into tg's are! There's a difference.

On 3. In as much as I do enjoy a good fucking and vice versa..I actually do not fuck as much (contrary to what you might have assumed). A few people could attest to that (I am not in any way shape or form loose hole). You can keep your donuts just in case you might need it in the future. lol ;)

And on 4. I know there are other ways. But it's like you were fighting with the general facts of the matter here. Men are just naturally attracted to taboo and filthy things. Like I said previously, an ass might not be designed for anal fucking but men still like anal fucking whether it's with a gg or tg (if they could get it why not?). And the fact that tg's are more open to offer their ass (to validate themselves) than gg's are reason enough why a lot of men these days are into tg's in the first place. Though I do agree about respecting someone's boundaries.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BlkJewels]

Yep, luv pluggin tgirl puss, I mean, booty. Funny tho, I luv gg pussy 2 death, and never done anal on a gg.

[DC]

I love ass, wether its GG or TS ass it doesn't matter, I always try to fuck every GG I hook up with in the ass.

[gotchagood]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTGI really beg to differ. My personal interest in trannies/shemales etc. is because of their "femininity", that's the draw "for me". If it's not feminine, I have no interest. Also, I have no interest in sucking, feeling or touching a "MAN" in any way that is sexual. I've been into trannies for way over a decade and guess what? I still haven't had any sexual contact or urges to be with a "MAN".

Also, I am reluctant to have anal sex with gg's!; I don't even have an urge to do so; so for the most part, "A**" banging is out for me. Why? I just have no interest in it.

Please try not to lump all the guys here in a "gay" box, it's "incorrect" and unfair. I'm a man who's "very" secure in my manhood and you ladies reassure me of that fact.

Have a great day :wink:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Yep, luv pluggin tgirl puss, I mean, booty. Funny tho, I luv gg pussy 2 death, and never done anal on a gg.


I love ass, wether its GG or TS ass it doesn't matter, I always try to fuck every GG I hook up with in the ass.

See what I mean? :lol: How could you dispute what they like BB? It's funny though that you like to TOP (give) but is reluctant at the idea of bottoming (receiving) and offering your ass. Isn't that sorta one sided and selfish? Also, IF you'd really like to go technical on things..that asses aren't made for ass fucking..Um, where do I start? Lets see, Trangenders transitions to live life opposite the genders they were born with. So by tradition tgirls are women, and as women "WE" do not top. lol Isn't being femme, breast, long hair etc. and topping men a "gay" thing to do? Think about it for a sec. That has only changed in like recent years due to the sudden boom of tgirl porn exposure online.



Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTGI really beg to differ. My personal interest in trannies/shemales etc. is because of their "femininity", that's the draw "for me". If it's not feminine, I have no interest. Also, I have no interest in sucking, feeling or touching a "MAN" in any way that is sexual. I've been into trannies for way over a decade and guess what? I still haven't had any sexual contact or urges to be with a "MAN".

Also, I am reluctant to have anal sex with gg's!; I don't even have an urge to do so; so for the most part, "A**" banging is out for me. Why? I just have no interest in it.

Please try not to lump all the guys here in a "gay" box, it's "incorrect" and unfair. I'm a man who's "very" secure in my manhood and you ladies reassure me of that fact.

Have a great day :wink:

That is very good! I applaud you for sticking to your guns..I really do. I personally known a few guys who are in the same boat as you. Never wanted to see, touch or anything to do with a cock but still likes tg's very much..they are top though (no.2). So I guess this also answers the thread question. Then again, there's always exceptions to the rule like you. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[transmaven]

asses weren't made for fucking? not so sure about that

sometimes girls pass out from pleasure when they discover

the bang of a digitally-induced clitoral orgasm when they have anal sex

http://www.tonibentley.com/pages/surrender_pages/bigicon_sans.jpg

amusing book by bentley btw

[Steve-Oh]

I still can't stop laughing at the term:

DUKE CHUTE!

I've never heard that one!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Some I'd hit. Some not.
Not all girls like it, not all girls dislike it.
Man, life isn't always cut & dry, black & white.
Some will, some won't.
I'm not gonna force my hog into any hole where it's not welcome.

[tsbrenda]

chokin da chicken( for jackin off)

PACKIN DA FUDGE


I still can't stop laughing at the term:


DUKE CHUTE!

I've never heard that one!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Some I'd hit. Some not.
Not all girls like it, not all girls dislike it.
Man, life isn't always cut & dry, black & white.
Some will, some won't.
I'm not gonna force my hog into any hole where it's not welcome.

[JeniferTS]

yeah they're prolly packing your fudge cause your nasty ass don't know how to clean properly.

[jjhill]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

[BellaBellucci]

See what I mean? :lol: How could you dispute what they like BB?

I didn't. I disputed how many TS girls like it.


It's funny though that you like to TOP (give) but is reluctant at the idea of bottoming (receiving) and offering your ass. Isn't that sorta one sided and selfish?

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.



Also, IF you'd really like to go technical on things..that asses aren't made for ass fucking..Um, where do I start? Lets see, Trangenders transitions to live life opposite the genders they were born with. So by tradition tgirls are women, and as women "WE" do not top.

Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.


lol Isn't being femme, breast, long hair etc. and topping men a "gay" thing to do? Think about it for a sec. That has only changed in like recent years due to the sudden boom of tgirl porn exposure online.

Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

And please, for the last time: stop putting words in my mouth. Argue the merits or stfu.

~BB~

[JeniferTS]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

ok..so you don't fuck tg's in the ass, you don't get fucked by tg's, you don't like receiving or giving head..what do you do? lol

[jjhill]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

ok..so you don't fuck tg's in the ass, you don't get fucked by tg's, you don't like receiving or giving head..what do you do? lol

Honestly fuck pussy. I use to believe that sexual intercourse should only be with a dick and pussy

[BLKGSXR]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

ok..so you don't fuck tg's in the ass, you don't get fucked by tg's, you don't like receiving or giving head..what do you do? lol

Honestly fuck pussy. I use to believe that sexual intercourse should only be with a dick and pussylmfao-my dudes honest about it at least-JJ fuck pussy-but not ass I guess-As long as it doesnt come out looking like a snickers bar im good ya dig.

[JeniferTS]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

ok..so you don't fuck tg's in the ass, you don't get fucked by tg's, you don't like receiving or giving head..what do you do? lol

Honestly fuck pussy. I use to believe that sexual intercourse should only be with a dick and pussy

that's kool..so ur only into gg's and post-ops or u don't like plastic pussy's either.

[JeniferTS]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

ok..so you don't fuck tg's in the ass, you don't get fucked by tg's, you don't like receiving or giving head..what do you do? lol

Honestly fuck pussy. I use to believe that sexual intercourse should only be with a dick and pussylmfao-my dudes honest about it at least-JJ fuck pussy-but not ass I guess-As long as it doesnt come out looking like a snickers bar im good ya dig.

:puke

[BLKGSXR]

heh heh you know im right about that though Jenifer Lmfao

[Nicole Dupre]

you got to try some Diprivan aka Propofol

it will give you a WICKED RIDE


SPACEY


HANG 10 DUDE
I knew you were a drug addict, you sketched out scum You're a doctor, alright; a doctor of degeneracy. Go stick your hard penis in a light socket, you tweaked goon.

Admit to us that you are on crstal meth RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

[phobun]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

ok..so you don't fuck tg's in the ass, you don't get fucked by tg's, you don't like receiving or giving head..what do you do? lol

Honestly fuck pussy. I use to believe that sexual intercourse should only be with a dick and pussy

that's kool..so ur only into gg's and post-ops or u don't like plastic pussy's either.

I think jjhill is spot on here. And plastic pussies look, taste and feel good.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/mmmm_161.jpg

[JeniferTS]

so does my ass :D

[Nicole Dupre]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).


HTG

SO if a dude is into TGs and goes down on a girl, he's a fag in denial? :?

Some of you girls have more mental hangups than fifty GGs on their worst day!!

There's like this passive hostility towards men who are actually interested in them sexually.

I don't know for other dudes, but if I'm fucking someone regular, at some point I'm gonna have feelings - it can't be helped.

The OP's original question is stupid, because ALL men start on the outside, with your appearance, and work backwards to the inside.

For the record, I don't think anybody who does anything with a tranny is a fag, no matter what. In fact, I don't even use that word about anybody. Sex and gender to me are fluid, but that doesn't change the fact that not everyone likes anal sex - not even trannies and not gay tops.

Anal sex is SOOOOO overrated unless it's being filmed imho. This has nothing to do with sexual politics.

~BB~

I define my sexuality one experience at a time. When I'm not fucking, I'm celibate. If I'm with a man AND a woman, I'm bi. If I was with, say, Brad Pitt; I'm being straight. If Brad enjoys dick sex, but he's still into girls, he's having pre-op tranny dick sex. I mean, I think it's just as easy to be gay as it is to be with a tranny. In fact, being gay is less taboo. Being with Angelina, even if she has a cock, is not the same as being attracted to Brad. So I think body parts and sex are not part of the initial sexual urge you would get in a social setting. Guys don't look for bulges under dresses unless they're fantasizing. Guys who are attracted to trannys are attracted to women. The more womanly the tranny, the more conventionally hetero the guy is. If a guy likes female body builders, but not cock, he's into masculinity; not cock.

I'm not sure where the confusion lies. But I do know one thing. Brenda is tardy. I don't care if he "doesn't feel tardy".

Brenda, you are a poop chute!

[phobun]

I knew you were a drug addict, you sketched out scum You're a doctor, alright; a doctor of degeneracy. Go stick your hard penis in a light socket, you tweaked goon.

Admit to us that you are on crstal meth RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

I had understood that crystal meth was abused mainly by white gay men. I'm not sure Brenda fits any of those demographic characteristics?

[Clind]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

i agree but i want to add something even if is like the first that you said, personally i start to liketrans when i watched a video that it was two women and the one of them took out from jher underwear a strap on, so when this happened i liked the the combination of a the male and the female dody , the looking of a body that could cum into his own tits, etc.

Also i want to said something else the cock factor is very important because it the only time that you can see a women cuming, with a female that cannot happened

[Nicole Dupre]

Wait. You think meth abuse is only happening in the gay male community?

[phobun]

Wait. You think meth abuse is only happening in the gay male community?

I doubt that, but abuse of crystal meth is a serious problem among men who have sex with men.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*


Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:


I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:


Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

But seriously, after reading the posts on the CD forum which brenda is now banned from, all the telltale signs of an unmanageable OCD drug binging are there. Everything is a sneaky, sketchy milieu of stupidity. At least, that's what his posts were implying. I still want to know more about getting outed on the job, and the kung fu stories. Also, the story about nearly getting caught in the trailer. Truly, it's fascinating in a completely creepy way; like scenes that might have been cut from The Silence of the Lambs. Eeek! lol

[phobun]

This little flame war you two have going on is not doing anyone any good.

As Mr. Obama said, "Cooler heads on all sides should have prevailed."

[turbo pimp]

just my 2 cents to debate that women dont enjoy anal sex...both of my last 2 latin GF's loved it in the ass and one of them actually prefered it over her pussy...and Hara...your so damn cute...

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thanks Turbo Pimp! :P






This little flame war you two have going on is not doing anyone any good.

As Mr. Obama said, "Cooler heads on all sides should have prevailed."

I know. But tell that to Bella (the neo tranny) who jumped in on me when I stated a general fact about men who are into trannies lovin' some ass fucking based on what I've seen and read at this forum! Somehow she's turned this into me loving ass fucking (and don't get me wrong..cos I do! Even if I don't even fuck all that much), or me being hungry for validation? or that I get validation from being topped bs which I never even mentioned on any of my post. So clearly, something is wrong with her reading comprehension (see Page 1 of what I've originally said) and how she was trying to object to a statement made out of a general consensus and viciously twisting my words to benefit her own agenda.

A blind can never lead another blind, sorry! I can't sit here and take what BB is saying because it's all bullshit! Until she lived life as a tgirl for a couple of good years then she should STFU until she has more real life experiences to impart people with.

That's all!

~Kisses.

HTG

[turbo pimp]

your attitude/class/intelligence are so sexy.....thanks for just being HJ

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

your attitude/class/intelligence are so sexy.....thanks for just being HJ

Thanks baby! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

[EyeCumInPiece]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

i can only speak 4 myself but #1 definitly does not apply to me. Even though your 2 reasons are slim, i cant disagree wit you. if i had 2 choose, id say im more #2, in addition to the fact that a genetic woman can never give oral like a ts.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

i can only speak 4 myself but #1 definitly does not apply to me. Even though your 2 reasons are slim, i cant disagree wit you. if i had 2 choose, id say im more #2, in addition to the fact that a genetic woman can never give oral like a ts.

Kewl! More ass fucking to further prove my point! :P

Although no.1 from my experience, when someone goes down on me, I return the favor automatically (it's only right). Maybe not everyone does it, but I *think no.1 and getting oral/head from a ts goes hand in hand. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*


Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:


I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:


Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html

~Kisses.

HTG

Wait. Wait. Hold on. I articulated intelligent responses to the personal opinions that you represent as facts and all you can do is tell me that I'm not a 'real' transexual?' OMFG that's hysterical - the last bastion of the bitch with no argument whatsoever. Still - every TS who doesn't like to get fucked in the ass all the time for their own self-validation is NOT a man. Since you do, that makes YOU the faggot by your own definition. Some of us find validation in much easier, cleaner, and safer ways. It's sex - not validation.

To the photoshop thread thing: If YOU took that as bragging, then fine - to you it is, but as usual, your personal perception doesn't make it so for everyone- it was just a thread. Chill. I even plan on doing my own glamor-type photos. Notice how I *NEVER* said there was anything wrong with them - I simply asked a question. Here's another question: why are you such a hater?

To answer your other insanely uneducated allegation, I've been trans my entire life but transitioned 4 years ago and let me tell you, I've met SOOOO many types. If anything, YOU'RE the one that's sheltered because you need to being the insanely flawed DSM IV into this.

I also find it interesting that you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about but call me Ms. Smarty Pants. You have no right to judge what kind of person someone else is based on their sexual preferences. What you really are saying here is that porn stars aren't 'real' trannies because they use what nature gave them for work, but the vibe I guess is that you're jealous because your block headed ass isn't pretty enough to join us. Many of us want SRS but need to make money - and that does NOT make any of us men.

And I'd watch out as there are MANY MANY TS women in the sex business who would take offense to what you're saying here. Sounds like JEAAAALOUUUUSY!

I'm not a 'REAL' tranny? Bitch! That's the first thing you're gotten right so far. It's called 'passing privilege' and you should be lucky enough to share it. I'm a woman. I live as a woman. I've had a writing career as a woman. I divorced my wife (partially to transition but she had other issues of her own), I've been molested by my doctors who had to 'inspect' me to make SURE I was TS (the exact quote was, 'but you look like a woman and have the body of a woman - I had to check,' which was humiliating by the way). My divorce court sees me as a woman, my son sees me as a woman, his school sees me as a woman, the DMV sees me as a woman - SHIT, even the 7-11 lady I see everyday has never even questioned me.

I NEVER get clocked. If you get a man or gay vibe off me you are probably the only one who's ever said that in my entire 4 years. *cough*jealous*cough* So you're right about one thing - I don't know much about 'tranny life' because I skipped straight to woman - genitalia not withstanding.

So... call me 'neo-tranny' all you like, but it doesn't change the fact that the ONLY person on GOD'S EARTH who doesn't see me as a woman is my piece of shit father who never approved of anything I ever did anyway (well, and you selectively). I wish I could tell you my real name so you could see for yourself, but I've also had plenty of jobs and even a gig as a political writer. If you want to question someone's 'passability' or 'womanhood' then bitch, you are most CERTAINLY barking up the wrong tree. When you're a mom, come back and talk to me again.

I'm also the best debater that you will ever have the misfortune of challenging - by leaps and bounds and then even more leaps and bounds. If YOU were smart, you would have had this argument with someone in your own verbal weight class and not tried to pick a fight with someone 'bigger' than you. What you did here has got the be the DUMBEST thing a person can do on a message forum. You clearly are not aware of my reputation. Ask about me.

~BB~

PS: If I were you I'd end it here because my next response won't be so nice, and if you do, I'll be more than happy to drop it too. I'm not a troll like... umm... you. Besides, what's the matter? Am I hitting way too close to home? Get some fucking self-esteem.

[giovanni_hotel]

so does my ass :D

LOL!!

Co-sign on that, Jen!! :P :P

I just know that booty will make you see starz!!! :wink:

[BellaBellucci]

Oh and another thing: methinks HTK needs to google 'autogynephilia.'

~BB~

[giovanni_hotel]

Wow Bella!!

Even more luv for ya!!

You make righteous indignation.....SEXYY!!

Big kisses baby!! :)

[BellaBellucci]

Wow Bella!!

Even more luv for ya!!

You make righteous indignation.....SEXYY!!

Big kisses baby!! :)

Just doing my job. ;)

I'm wondering where HTG might even BEGIN to respond considering that I don't think she's made even one factual statement so far.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).


HTG

SO if a dude is into TGs and goes down on a girl, he's a fag in denial? :?

Some of you girls have more mental hangups than fifty GGs on their worst day!!

There's like this passive hostility towards men who are actually interested in them sexually.

I don't know for other dudes, but if I'm fucking someone regular, at some point I'm gonna have feelings - it can't be helped.

The OP's original question is stupid, because ALL men start on the outside, with your appearance, and work backwards to the inside.

For the record, I don't think anybody who does anything with a tranny is a fag, no matter what. In fact, I don't even use that word about anybody. Sex and gender to me are fluid, but that doesn't change the fact that not everyone likes anal sex - not even trannies and not gay tops.

Anal sex is SOOOOO overrated unless it's being filmed imho. This has nothing to do with sexual politics.

~BB~

I define my sexuality one experience at a time. When I'm not fucking, I'm celibate. If I'm with a man AND a woman, I'm bi. If I was with, say, Brad Pitt; I'm being straight. If Brad enjoys dick sex, but he's still into girls, he's having pre-op tranny dick sex. I mean, I think it's just as easy to be gay as it is to be with a tranny. In fact, being gay is less taboo. Being with Angelina, even if she has a cock, is not the same as being attracted to Brad. So I think body parts and sex are not part of the initial sexual urge you would get in a social setting. Guys don't look for bulges under dresses unless they're fantasizing. Guys who are attracted to trannys are attracted to women. The more womanly the tranny, the more conventionally hetero the guy is. If a guy likes female body builders, but not cock, he's into masculinity; not cock.

I'm not sure where the confusion lies. But I do know one thing. Brenda is tardy. I don't care if he "doesn't feel tardy".

Brenda, you are a poop chute!

Co-signage. :)

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*


Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:


I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:


Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html

~Kisses.

HTG

Wait. Wait. Hold on. I articulated intelligent responses to the personal opinions that you represent as facts and all you can do is tell me that I'm not a 'real' transexual?' OMFG that's hysterical - the last bastion of the bitch with no argument whatsoever. Still - every TS who doesn't like to get fucked in the ass all the time for their own self-validation is NOT a man. Since you do, that makes YOU the faggot. Some of us find validation in much easier, cleaner, and safer ways. It's sex - not validation.

To the photoshop thread thing: If YOU took that as bragging, then fine - to you it is, but as usual, your personal perception doesn't make it so for everyone- it was just a thread. Chill. I even plan on doing my own glamor-type photos. Notice how I *NEVER* said there was anything wrong with them - I simply asked a question. Here's another question: why are you such a hater?

To answer your other insanely uneducated allegation, I've been trans my entire life but transitioned 4 years ago and let me tell you, I've met SOOOO many types. If anything, YOU'RE the one that's sheltered because you need to being the insanely flawed DSM IV into this.

I also find it interesting that you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about but call me Ms. Smarty Pants. You have no right to judge what kind of person someone else is based on their sexual preferences. What you really are saying here is that porn stars aren't 'real' trannies because they use what nature gave them for work, but the vibe I guess is that you're jealous because your block headed ass isn't pretty enough to join us. Many of us want SRS but need to make money - and that does NOT make any of us men.

And I'd watch out as there are MANY MANY TS women in the sex business who would take offense to what you're saying here. Sounds like JEAAAALOUUUUSY!

I'm not a 'REAL' tranny? Bitch! That's the first thing you're gotten right so far. It's called 'passing privilege' and you should be lucky enough to share it. I'm a woman. I live as a woman. I've had a writing career as a woman. I divorced my wife (partially to transition but she had other issues of her own), I've been molested by my doctors who had to 'inspect' me to make SURE I was TS (the exact quote was, 'but you look like a woman and have the body of a woman - I had to check,' which was humiliating by the way). My divorce court sees me as a woman, my son sees me as a woman, his school sees me as a woman, the DMV sees me as a woman - SHIT, even the 7-11 lady I see everyday has never even questioned me.

I NEVER get clocked. If you get a man or gay vibe off me you are probably the only one who's ever said that in my entire 4 years. *cough*jealous*cough* So you're right about one thing - I don't know much about 'tranny life' because I skipped straight to woman - genitalia not withstanding.

So... call me 'neo-tranny' all you like, but it doesn't change the fact that the ONLY person on GOD'S EARTH who doesn't see me as a woman is my piece of shit father who never approved of anything I ever did anyway (well, and you selectively). I wish I could tell you my real name so you could see for yourself, but I've also had plenty of jobs and even a gig as a political writer. If you want to question someone's 'passability' or 'womanhood' then bitch, you are most CERTAINLY barking up the wrong tree. When you're a mom, come back and talk to me again.

I'm also the best debater that you will ever have the misfortune of challenging - by leaps and bounds and then even more leaps and bounds. If YOU were smart, you would have had this argument with someone in your own verbal weight class and not tried to pick a fight with someone 'bigger' than you. What you did here has got the be the DUMBEST thing a person can do on a message forum. You clearly are not aware of my reputation. Ask about me.

~BB~

PS: If I were you I'd end it here because my next response won't be so nice, and if you do, I'll be more than happy to drop it too. I'm not a troll like... umm... you. Besides, what's the matter? Am I hitting way too close to home? Get some fucking self-esteem.

Hold on Daddy Tranny, How did a simple fact stating that:


Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

derived from a general consensus of men on here (since I've signed up in 2005) turned into:

YOU not clearly understanding the facts stated..Do you realize that YOU are not arguing with me nor my thoughts on the subject but merely the popular consensus of the majority of men on here? Pfffff..

What's hysterical is the fact that instead of arguing the consensus results you go ahead and assume numerous untrue things about me.

1. So what IF I enjoy giving and recieving anal sex from time to time? That still does not says NOTHING about me as a person. It only means I'm a type of person that knows how to give and take in a sexual relationship..unlike you!

So you don't like getting anal sex? Why is this a problem when most people on here stated they like to get or give anal sex which discredit what you're saying?

2. And about me being jealous? How and why would I be jealous of you neo tranny? Tell me cos I'm listening. I see nothing on you or what you have to be jealous of. No.1 you brag about not being clocked..I say good for you. That or people around you aren;t being honest with you! So until you fix your hard chiseled mug and get a chin maybe I'd be jealous of you. But until then, it remains to be seen Daddy Tranny! :lol:

Anyhow, like I said..you started it. I didn't see why you're arguing with consensus facts. :roll:

You could stop here or we can continue?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

[quote=Hara_Juku Tgirl]@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

I just found this little jewel too. NO, most women DO NOT use their asses for sex unless pressured by a man but since YOU were the gay boy, not me, then what would you know of heterosexual relationships? Uhh. Nothing.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Hold on Daddy Tranny, How did a simple fact stating that:

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

derived from a general consensus of men on here (since I've signed up in 2005) turned into:

YOU not clearly understanding the facts stated..Do you realize that YOU are not arguing with me nor my thoughts on the subject but merely the popular consensus of the majority of men on here? Pfffff..

What's hysterical is the fact that instead of arguing the consensus results you go ahead and assume numerous untrue things about me.

1. So what IF I enjoy giving and recieving anal sex from time to time? That still does not says NOTHING about me as a person. It only means I'm a type of person that knows how to give and take in a sexual relationship..unlike you!

So you don't like getting anal sex? Why is this a problem when most people on here stated they like to get or give anal sex which discredit what you're saying?

2. And about me being jealous? How and why would I be jealous of you neo tranny? Tell me cos I'm listening. I see nothing on you or what you have to be jealous of. No.1 you brag about not being clocked..I say good for you. That or people around you aren;t being honest with you! So until you fix your hard chiseled mug and get a chin maybe I'd be jealous of you. But until then, it remains to be seen Daddy Tranny! :lol:

Anyhow, like I said..you started it. I didn't see why you're arguing with consensus facts. :roll:

You could stop here or we can continue?

~Kisses.

HTG

Yeah. I'm afraid of you. LMFAO. I'd hate to continue a weak argument with a mental midget. I might lose! *gasp* (never!)

I NEVER said anal sex was bad or wrong. I said it wasn't for me and that many women use it as validation and by you claiming that ass is a substitute for pussy is WRONG. I don't reciprocate anal sex because I don't TOP either (except for work). It's not about positions, it's about the act of sodomy as a whole. I'm not saying I've never done it, it's just not my favorite, and I would NEVER be selfish in bed - again - that's YOUR unfounded allegation. I have other ways to keep my men and me happy.

And I'm not arguing the consensus. I AM arguing with YOU. In fact, MANY times I've said 'to each their own' and 'we all have our own preferences.' And I didn't put words in your mouth - you did it to me, so if you don't like me throwing YOUR words back into YOUR face, then you shouldn't speak them.

And seriously, if you can't have this debate without calling me names then you are one immature little boy Harajuku T-Boy.

See? Sucks huh?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

I just found this little jewel too. NO, most women DO NOT use their asses for sex unless pressured by a man but since YOU were the gay boy, not me, then what would you know of heterosexual relationships? Uhh. Nothing.

~BB~

And your point? Wasn't that statement clear enough for you to read and understand? I got plenty of gg friends and it's a fact: Men like anal sex even from gg's from time to time (pressured or not)!

Um, and how could I be a gay boy when clearly I've started transition in my teens (14 and was full time by age 18). :roll: You on the other hand admitted that you were a straight married man who fathered a kid and only recently transitioned and only lived as a woman 4 poor years? Don't you think this messes up and confuses your son at some extent?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

@ Bella

1. I never said an ass is a pussy. I said it's a substitute..incases with gg's for example, IF menstruating or pregnant (not saying it's SOP) but don't women use their asses to satisfy their partners?

I just found this little jewel too. NO, most women DO NOT use their asses for sex unless pressured by a man but since YOU were the gay boy, not me, then what would you know of heterosexual relationships? Uhh. Nothing.

~BB~

And your point? Wasn't that statement clear enough for you to read and understand? I got plenty of gg friends and it's a fact: Men like anal sex even from gg's from time to time (pressured or not)!

Um, and how could I be a gay boy when clearly I've started transition in my teens (14 and was full time by age 18). :roll: You on the other hand admitted that you were a straight married man who fathered a kid and only recently transitioned and only lived as a woman 4 poor years? Don't you think this messes up and confuses your son at some extent?

~Kisses.

HTG

OK, more bullshit you know nothing about. I'll try to explain in terms that even riders of the short bus can understand:

1. BORN WOMEN MOST OF THE TIME DO NOT, I REPEAT NOT, ENJOY ANAL SEX. I seriously doubt you know GG's if you claim otherwise.

When I started transition is irrelevant. My circumstances are really none of your business, but once again I detect jealousy in you because I have a child who love me wholeheartedly and didn't even have to carry or give birth. I transitioned when he was three years old so there is no confusion there. Again, ask the judge, the lawyers, the court investigator (who claims that I 'chose the PERFECT time to transition,' and anyone who's ever seen the two of us together. He even considers me prettier than my ex.

You want to try to change my custody arrangement, then file an amicus brief. But I bet you don't even know what that is.

Once again, you know NOTHING. Go read some books and get 'edumacated' you stubborn fool.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Yeah. I'm afraid of you. LMFAO. I'd hate to continue a weak argument with a mental midget. I might lose! *gasp* (never!)

I NEVER said anal sex was bad or wrong. I said it wasn't for me and that many women use it as validation and by you claiming that ass is a substitute for pussy is WRONG. I don't reciprocate anal sex because I don't TOP either. It's not about positions, it's about the act of sodomy as a whole. I'm not saying I've never done it, it's just not my favorite, and I would NEVER be selfish in bed - again - that's YOUR unfounded allegation. I have other ways to keep my men and me happy.

There lies the problem! If it wasn;t for you then don't assume it's not for everybody..because obviously, the majority of men and tg's likes it! That's your problem not mines. Assuming men, women and tg's use anal sex for validation is wrong and false because it's NOT!

Also, you said on a previous page that you're a top and now you're taking it back? So much for consistency. Haha


And I'm not arguing the consensus. I AM arguing with YOU. In fact, MANY times I've said 'to each their own' and 'we all have our own preferences.' And I didn't put words in your mouth - you did it to me, so if you don't like me throwing YOUR words back into YOUR face, then you shouldn't speak them.

And seriously, if you can't have this debate without calling me names then you are one immature little boy Harajuku T-Boy.

See? Sucks huh?

~BB~

See, from the very beginning when you posted a reply to what I've said..you were out for vendetta due to "The Natural vs Photoshop" thread of yours which was a disaster. Everybody could see that!

So try again Daddy tranny! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Yeah. I'm afraid of you. LMFAO. I'd hate to continue a weak argument with a mental midget. I might lose! *gasp* (never!)

I NEVER said anal sex was bad or wrong. I said it wasn't for me and that many women use it as validation and by you claiming that ass is a substitute for pussy is WRONG. I don't reciprocate anal sex because I don't TOP either. It's not about positions, it's about the act of sodomy as a whole. I'm not saying I've never done it, it's just not my favorite, and I would NEVER be selfish in bed - again - that's YOUR unfounded allegation. I have other ways to keep my men and me happy.

There lies the problem! If it wasn;t for you then don't assume it's not for everybody..because obviously, the majority of men and tg's likes it! That's your problem not mines. Assuming men, women and tg's use anal sex for validation is wrong and false because it's NOT!

Also, you said on a previous page that you're a top and now you're taking it back? So much for consistency. Haha


And I'm not arguing the consensus. I AM arguing with YOU. In fact, MANY times I've said 'to each their own' and 'we all have our own preferences.' And I didn't put words in your mouth - you did it to me, so if you don't like me throwing YOUR words back into YOUR face, then you shouldn't speak them.

And seriously, if you can't have this debate without calling me names then you are one immature little boy Harajuku T-Boy.

See? Sucks huh?

~BB~

See, from the very beginning when you posted a reply to what I've said..you were out for vendetta due to "The Natural vs Photoshop" thread of yours which was a disaster. Everybody could see that!

So try again Daddy tranny! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You're contradicting yourself now - just in the first few sentences. You claim that I said anal sex was wrong, but quote a passage where I actually just said that it wasn't for everyone. I called you names to exemplify what it is that YOU'RE doing. You seriously need some fucking perspective, then you can step to me. Otherwise, go piss off until you can argue the merits... finally. My verbal ass-kicking of you was funny at first but now it's just boring. Go troll somewhere else with someone your own intellectual size.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

See, from the very beginning when you posted a reply to what I've said..you were out for vendetta due to "The Natural vs Photoshop" thread of yours which was a disaster. Everybody could see that!

So try again Daddy tranny! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

What the fuck are you even TALKING ABOUT?!?! LMFAO! What does this have to do with the Photoshop thread? YOU brought that up - to me it was just a topic of conversation. Everything I do or say doesn't have an ulterior motive.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

OK, more bullshit you know nothing about. I'll try to explain in terms that even riders of the short bus can understand:

1. BORN WOMEN MOST OF THE TIME DO NOT, I REPEAT NOT, ENJOY ANAL SEX. I seriously doubt you know GG's if you claim otherwise.

Oh wait! I see..because you aren't one (a woman) and was busy living life as a man for many years you probably do not know this! Sad! Many (not all) women enjoy anal sex! Get with the program. Even men can tell you that, but wait, you're neither! :lol:


When I started transition is irrelevant. My circumstances are really none of your business, but once again I detect jealous in you because I have a child who love me wholeheartedly and didn't even have to carry or give birth. I transitioned when he was three years old so there is no confusion there. Again, ask the judge, the lawyers, the court investigator (who claims that I 'chose the PERFECT time to transition,' and anyone who's ever seen the two of us together. He even considers me prettier than my ex.

You want to try to change my custody arrangement, then file an amicus brief. But I bet you don't even know what that is.

Once again, you know NOTHING. Go read some books and get 'edumacated' you stubborn fool.

~BB~

Of course, and I agree..when you started your transition is irrelevant because you're a hoax of a wannabe tranny. You couldn't cut life as a man so now decided to try your luck being a woman. Lemme tell you, you're already suck at it! Your male aggression is coming out and it ain't pretty!

So now all of the sudden I'm jealous of you having a child? Sweetie, I might have not been able to procreate according to how I would like but I got 7 nieces and nephews to dot with. So again, you're way off base here.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

OK, more bullshit you know nothing about. I'll try to explain in terms that even riders of the short bus can understand:

1. BORN WOMEN MOST OF THE TIME DO NOT, I REPEAT NOT, ENJOY ANAL SEX. I seriously doubt you know GG's if you claim otherwise.

Oh wait! I see..because you aren't one (a woman) and was busy living life as a man for many years you probably do not know this! Sad! Many (not all) women enjoy anal sex! Get with the program. Even men can tell you that, but wait, you're neither! :lol:


When I started transition is irrelevant. My circumstances are really none of your business, but once again I detect jealous in you because I have a child who love me wholeheartedly and didn't even have to carry or give birth. I transitioned when he was three years old so there is no confusion there. Again, ask the judge, the lawyers, the court investigator (who claims that I 'chose the PERFECT time to transition,' and anyone who's ever seen the two of us together. He even considers me prettier than my ex.

You want to try to change my custody arrangement, then file an amicus brief. But I bet you don't even know what that is.

Once again, you know NOTHING. Go read some books and get 'edumacated' you stubborn fool.

~BB~

Of course, and I agree..when you started your transition is irrelevant because you're a hoax of a wannabe tranny. You couldn't cut life as a man so now decided to try your luck being a woman. Lemme tell you, you're already suck at it! Your male aggression is coming out and it ain't pretty!

So now all of the sudden I'm jealous of you having a child? Sweetie, I might have not been able to procreate according to how I would like but I got 7 nieces and nephews to dot with. So again, you're way off base here.

~Kisses.

HTG

You have nieces and nephews? Wow! Congratulations. Do you support them? Didn't think so. Here's a stereotypical answer for your stereotypical insults: 'blah, blah, blah.'

You still don't know me so I suggest you end your losing battle.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You're contradicting yourself now - just in the first few sentences. You claim that I said anal sex was wrong, but quote a passage where I actually just said that it wasn't for everyone. I called you names to exemplify what it is that YOU'RE doing. You seriously need some fucking perspective, then you can step to me. Otherwise, go piss off until you can argue the merits... finally. My verbal ass-kicking of you was funny at first but now it's just boring. Go troll somewhere else with someone your own intellectual size.

~BB~

Nope. Learn to read. You said anal sex isn't for you. I get that.
Are you on medication or something? lol On previous page, you also said your a top and now all of the sudden you're denying ever said that! WTF is wrong with you? So if anal sex wasn't for everyone it doesn't mean it couldn't be for the rest and bunch of others who liked it!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

You're contradicting yourself now - just in the first few sentences. You claim that I said anal sex was wrong, but quote a passage where I actually just said that it wasn't for everyone. I called you names to exemplify what it is that YOU'RE doing. You seriously need some fucking perspective, then you can step to me. Otherwise, go piss off until you can argue the merits... finally. My verbal ass-kicking of you was funny at first but now it's just boring. Go troll somewhere else with someone your own intellectual size.

~BB~

Nope. Learn to read. You said anal sex isn't for you. I get that.
Are you on medication or something? lol On previous page, you also said your a top and now all of the sudden you're denying ever said that! WTF is wrong with you? So if anal sex wasn't for everyone it doesn't mean it couldn't be for the rest and bunch of others who liked it!

~Kisses.

HTG

I said I PREFER to top. Now who doesn't know how to read. GO back and check it again Plato.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You have nieces and nephews? Wow! Congratulations. Do you support them? Didn't think so. Here's a stereotypical answer for your stereotypical insults: 'blah, blah, blah.'

You still don't know me so I suggest you end your losing battle.

~BB~

Um I'm sorry. Maybe your family has deserted you for not knowing what you are or who you really are in life (hence your wife divorced you). But my family are all very supportive of me and me them.

This isn't about arguing/battling with you. This is about shutting you up about things you don't have any extensive knowledge about neo tranny!

So STFU already and I will!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

You're contradicting yourself now - just in the first few sentences. You claim that I said anal sex was wrong, but quote a passage where I actually just said that it wasn't for everyone. I called you names to exemplify what it is that YOU'RE doing. You seriously need some fucking perspective, then you can step to me. Otherwise, go piss off until you can argue the merits... finally. My verbal ass-kicking of you was funny at first but now it's just boring. Go troll somewhere else with someone your own intellectual size.

~BB~

Nope. Learn to read. You said anal sex isn't for you. I get that.
Are you on medication or something? lol On previous page, you also said your a top and now all of the sudden you're denying ever said that! WTF is wrong with you? So if anal sex wasn't for everyone it doesn't mean it couldn't be for the rest and bunch of others who liked it!

~Kisses.

HTG

I said I PREFER to top. Now who doesn't know how to read? Go back and check it again Plato.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Um I'm sorry. Maybe your family has deserted you for not knowing what you are or who you really are in life (hence your wife divorced you). But my family are all very supportive of me and me them.

This isn't about arguing/battling with you. This is about shutting you up about things you don't have any extensive knowledge about neo tranny!

So STFU already and I will!

~Kisses.

HTG

Uhh... again, a self-contradiction - you tell me it's not about battling or arguing and yet you continue to make assumptions and call people names. Bitch. You. Mirror. Soon. Please.

And my wife didn't leave me - I divorced her because she was a selfish, materialistic whore. I even sat in a courtroom for an hour while her lawyer kept reminding everyone that I have a penis. On the other hand, I didn't even have a lawyer and got 50% custody right down the middle. That would make me pretty successful in that regard.

So... what have you done in your life? What makes you special? Me? I'm just getting warmed up if you want to have a pissing contest.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You're contradicting yourself now - just in the first few sentences. You claim that I said anal sex was wrong, but quote a passage where I actually just said that it wasn't for everyone. I called you names to exemplify what it is that YOU'RE doing. You seriously need some fucking perspective, then you can step to me. Otherwise, go piss off until you can argue the merits... finally. My verbal ass-kicking of you was funny at first but now it's just boring. Go troll somewhere else with someone your own intellectual size.

~BB~

Nope. Learn to read. You said anal sex isn't for you. I get that.
Are you on medication or something? lol On previous page, you also said your a top and now all of the sudden you're denying ever said that! WTF is wrong with you? So if anal sex wasn't for everyone it doesn't mean it couldn't be for the rest and bunch of others who liked it!

~Kisses.

HTG

I said I PREFER to top. Now who doesn't know how to read? Go back and check it again Plato.

~BB~


I don't reciprocate anal sex because I don't TOP either.

You said you prefer to top then you say you don't top either. There you have it, Hypocrite!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

You're contradicting yourself now - just in the first few sentences. You claim that I said anal sex was wrong, but quote a passage where I actually just said that it wasn't for everyone. I called you names to exemplify what it is that YOU'RE doing. You seriously need some fucking perspective, then you can step to me. Otherwise, go piss off until you can argue the merits... finally. My verbal ass-kicking of you was funny at first but now it's just boring. Go troll somewhere else with someone your own intellectual size.

~BB~

Nope. Learn to read. You said anal sex isn't for you. I get that.
Are you on medication or something? lol On previous page, you also said your a top and now all of the sudden you're denying ever said that! WTF is wrong with you? So if anal sex wasn't for everyone it doesn't mean it couldn't be for the rest and bunch of others who liked it!

~Kisses.

HTG

I said I PREFER to top. Now who doesn't know how to read? Go back and check it again Plato.

~BB~


I don't reciprocate anal sex because I don't TOP either.

You said you prefer to top then you say you don't top either. There you have it, Hypocrite!

~Kisses.

HTG

Oh wow. You caught me in one slip-up. Let me rephrase: I'm not going to top someone if I don't let them top me. It's hypocritical. Feel better now? All these messages and THAT'S all you got? This is no longer a real argument now. I'm done.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

And my wife didn't leave me - I divorced her because she was a selfish, materialistic whore. <SNIP>

And didn't you turned out to be one also? Again, you're a Hypocrite!

:roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

And my wife didn't leave me - I divorced her because she was a selfish, materialistic whore. <SNIP>

And didn't you turned out to be one also? Again, you're a Hypocrite!

:roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

More name calling. BRILLIANT!

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).


HTG

SO if a dude is into TGs and goes down on a girl, he's a fag in denial? :?

Some of you girls have more mental hangups than fifty GGs on their worst day!!

There's like this passive hostility towards men who are actually interested in them sexually.

I don't know for other dudes, but if I'm fucking someone regular, at some point I'm gonna have feelings - it can't be helped.

The OP's original question is stupid, because ALL men start on the outside, with your appearance, and work backwards to the inside.

For the record, I don't think anybody who does anything with a tranny is a fag, no matter what. In fact, I don't even use that word about anybody. Sex and gender to me are fluid, but that doesn't change the fact that not everyone likes anal sex - not even trannies and not gay tops.

Anal sex is SOOOOO overrated unless it's being filmed imho. This has nothing to do with sexual politics.

~BB~

I define my sexuality one experience at a time. When I'm not fucking, I'm celibate. If I'm with a man AND a woman, I'm bi. If I was with, say, Brad Pitt; I'm being straight. If Brad enjoys dick sex, but he's still into girls, he's having pre-op tranny dick sex. I mean, I think it's just as easy to be gay as it is to be with a tranny. In fact, being gay is less taboo. Being with Angelina, even if she has a cock, is not the same as being attracted to Brad. So I think body parts and sex are not part of the initial sexual urge you would get in a social setting. Guys don't look for bulges under dresses unless they're fantasizing. Guys who are attracted to trannys are attracted to women. The more womanly the tranny, the more conventionally hetero the guy is. If a guy likes female body builders, but not cock, he's into masculinity; not cock.

I'm not sure where the confusion lies. But I do know one thing. Brenda is tardy. I don't care if he "doesn't feel tardy".

Brenda, you are a poop chute!

Co-signage. :)
(not the brenda thing - i don't know her)

~BB~

[giovanni_hotel]

TIME OUT!!

I just realized, I like both BB and Hara Juku, so all this beefing is bringing water to my eyes, ( almost!)

Don't HATE

PENETRATE!!


xoxoxoxo

[BellaBellucci]

TIME OUT!!

I just realized, I like both BB and Hara Juku, so all this beefing is bringing water to my eyes, ( almost!)

Don't HATE

PENETRATE!!


xoxoxoxo

I didn't have a problem with HTG either until she declared authoritatively that essentially ass IS pussy and if you don't fuck ass you're not a woman.

Gee. I wonder how a grown woman like me should take that kind of arrogance from an insolent child.

How would YOU take it? Please, like us both - I have no problem with her in general - but you have to admit, her behavior here is uncalled for.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

TIME OUT!!

I just realized, I like both BB and Hara Juku, so all this beefing is bringing water to my eyes, ( almost!)

Don't HATE

PENETRATE!!


xoxoxoxo

I didn't have a problem with HTG either until she declared authoritatively that essentially ass IS pussy and if you don't fuck ass you're not a woman.

Gee. I wonder how a grown woman like me should take that kind of arrogance from an insolent child.

How would YOU take it? Please, like us both - I have no problem with her in general - but you have to admit, her behavior here is uncalled for.

~BB~

Likewise. I said "ass was a pussy substitute" or however I've put it. But its true so? I mean, you can go ask any guy around and majority of them won't bat an eyelash and tell you that they like hitting up a nice booty! I could even drop HA members names down to the mods but will not!

Again, I never said ass is or even equals pussy (I said it's used to rival a pussy - check it again!) and vice versa. Nor did I say that if you don't fuck ass you're not woman. That's BB's interpretation - she is the only one coming up with that assumption!

So pleaseee..re-read the begining of the thread and how you've responded and quoted me with that 'tude! :roll:

You might be a grown woman but new to the scene nonetheless and an inexperienced at being one at that.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

TIME OUT!!

I just realized, I like both BB and Hara Juku, so all this beefing is bringing water to my eyes, ( almost!)

Don't HATE

PENETRATE!!


xoxoxoxo

I didn't have a problem with HTG either until she declared authoritatively that essentially ass IS pussy and if you don't fuck ass you're not a woman.

Gee. I wonder how a grown woman like me should take that kind of arrogance from an insolent child.

How would YOU take it? Please, like us both - I have no problem with her in general - but you have to admit, her behavior here is uncalled for.

~BB~

Likewise. I said "ass was a pussy substitute" or however I've put it. But its true so? I mean, you can go ask any guy around and majority of them won't bat an eyelash and tell you that they like hitting up a nice booty! I could even drop HA members names down to the mods but will not!

Again, I never said ass is or even equals pussy (I said it's used to rival a pussy - check it again!) and vice versa. Nor did I say that if you don't fuck ass you're not woman. That's BB's interpretation - she is the only one coming up with that assumption!

So pleaseee..re-read the begining of the thread and how you've responded and quoted me with that 'tude! :roll:

You might be a grown woman but new to the scene nonetheless and an inexperienced at being one at that.

~Kisses.

HTG

Who are you? God? You get to decide when one is 'experienced?' OMG bitch! You're a laugh a minute. I lied when I said I wanted you to shut up. Please continue - yours is the best comedy I've heard in years!!! :claps

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

TIME OUT!!

I just realized, I like both BB and Hara Juku, so all this beefing is bringing water to my eyes, ( almost!)

Don't HATE

PENETRATE!!


xoxoxoxo

I didn't have a problem with HTG either until she declared authoritatively that essentially ass IS pussy and if you don't fuck ass you're not a woman.

Gee. I wonder how a grown woman like me should take that kind of arrogance from an insolent child.

How would YOU take it? Please, like us both - I have no problem with her in general - but you have to admit, her behavior here is uncalled for.

~BB~

Likewise. I said "ass was a pussy substitute" or however I've put it. But its true so? I mean, you can go ask any guy around and majority of them won't bat an eyelash and tell you that they like hitting up a nice booty! I could even drop HA members names down to the mods but will not!

Again, I never said ass is or even equals pussy (I said it's used to rival a pussy - check it again!) and vice versa. Nor did I say that if you don't fuck ass you're not woman. That's BB's interpretation - she is the only one coming up with that assumption!

So pleaseee..re-read the begining of the thread and how you've responded and quoted me with that 'tude! :roll:

You might be a grown woman but new to the scene nonetheless and an inexperienced at being one at that.

~Kisses.

HTG

Who are you? God? You get to decide when one is 'experienced?' OMG bitch! You're a laugh a minute. I lied when I said I wanted you to shut up. Please continue - yours is the best comedy I've heard in years!!! :claps

~BB~

I could go ask the same thing..Who the fuck are you? 4 years living as a woman and sounding off about who likes and doesn;t like ass fucking? When you're not even experienced being top or bottom. STFU dude!

I'm sorry. You might be older..but that doesn't mean shit. When it comes to this topic, you gotta back it up with some experiences in the field! I cannot bow down or give respect to someone who thinks she knows it all because that is just plane insane!

But because your ego is bigger than your head, you refuse to accept defeat. It's ok..So why don't you just move along on other topics you are more or less experienced with?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

I could go ask the same thing..Who the fuck are you? 4 years living as a woman and sounding off about who likes and doesn;t like ass fucking? When you're not even experienced being top or bottom. STFU dude!

I'm sorry. You might be older..but that doesn't mean shit. When it comes to this topic, you gotta back it up with some experiences in the field! I cannot bow down or give respect to someone who thinks she knows it all because that is just plane insane!

But because your ego is bigger than your head, you refuse to accept defeat. It's ok..So why don't you just move along on other topics you are more or less experienced with?

~Kisses.

HTG

Hold up. You're telling me that I'm not allowed to comment on an activity that I've actually done because you're done it MORE? Also, we're all supposed to ignore the wisdom that you even admit I can impart due to my age just because you said so?

You even call me 'dude' and belittle my time as a woman because it's only been 4 years. Just in this THREAD I think I've listed more of my female life experiences in the last 4 years than you have for your entire life. New to the forum does NOT mean new to the life.

So again: who the fuck are you? Why are you so wonderful? You're beginning to come over a bit trollish. You talk all this shit but can't back up a word of it.

But I'm supposed to 'accept defeat.' Sure.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

'With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!'

Really? Really now? An ass is not a vagina. While many of us will have our asses fucked on video or in photos, most girls who subscribe to this mentality in their real life don't do so because they enjoy it... they do it because their PARTNER enjoys it and it somehow makes them feel like a woman. It's EXTREMELY difficult to please a girl (of any kind) anally - but that doesn't stop girls from faking it because it allows them to feel like women, but...

NEWS FLASH: MOST (almost ALL) Born women hate anal sex because it is NOT comfortable; not to mention that not every TS was gay before transition, therefore, ass fucking is NOT a given and personally I take an enormous amount of offense to that.

NOT EVERY TRANNY WILL LET YOU FUCK HER IN THE ASS... MOST GG'S WILL NOT.

Sure, there are a few that will, but more often than not you have to deal with the 'validation' issues to get to that point and if ANY want ME for that, they can take a hike. Many of us, myself included, validate our femininity in much safer and cleaner ways especially considering that anal sex will NEVER make ANYONE a woman.

If you enjoy it, great, to each their own, but how a person has sex has nothing to do with who they are as a person.

The sooner girls learn this, the sooner they can greatly reduce their risk of HIV and find other avenues to improve their validation and self-esteem.

A dick in ones ass does not make them woman. Believe that.

~BB~

http://lh5.ggpht.com/drgcgeorge/Rd8VLn5bh_I/AAAAAAAABWo/6EOX8GFZ1Bo/s288/IMG_6716.JPG

I mean, really..where did I say an ass is a vagina? Where (point it to me)? I wrote like 2 paragraphs..where do you even come up with anal sex for validation and hiv shit?

So WTF is your problem? Ahh yes, the natural vs Photoshop thread. That didn't go very far more than you'd hope huh? I can see where your hostility is really coming from. You're NOT fooling me or anyone reading this or the other thread you made. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

You're going in circles. I'm really done this time. Peace. I hope someday you figure out that transexuality is about more than just sex.

/ignore HTG

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I could go ask the same thing..Who the fuck are you? 4 years living as a woman and sounding off about who likes and doesn;t like ass fucking? When you're not even experienced being top or bottom. STFU dude!

I'm sorry. You might be older..but that doesn't mean shit. When it comes to this topic, you gotta back it up with some experiences in the field! I cannot bow down or give respect to someone who thinks she knows it all because that is just plane insane!

But because your ego is bigger than your head, you refuse to accept defeat. It's ok..So why don't you just move along on other topics you are more or less experienced with?

~Kisses.

HTG

Hold up. You're telling me that I'm not allowed to comment on an activity that I've actually done because you're done it MORE? Also, we're all supposed to ignore the wisdom that you even admit I can impart due to my age just because you said so?

You even call me 'dude' and belittle my time as a woman because it's only been 4 years. Just in this THREAD I think I've listed more of my female life experiences in the last 4 years than you have for your entire life. New to the forum does NOT mean new to the life.

So again: who the fuck are you? Why are you so wonderful? You're beginning to come over a bit trollish. You talk all this shit but can't back up a word of it.

But I'm supposed to 'accept defeat.' Sure.

~BB~

Um, here's a hand magnifying mirror in case you have broken every mirror and compact mirrors you've had!

http://generallyawesome.com/store/compact-mirrors/double-magnifying-mirror-co.jpg

I've never even heard of you until you posted some crappy thread. Again, who are you? Are you even a real honest to goodness trangender woman or are you one of those bitter latent transitioners? You're so full of yourself you're blinding yourself!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You're going in circles. I'm really done this time. Peace. I hope someday you figure out that transexuality is about more than just sex.

/ignore HTG

~BB~

Duh? I know that. I've been a ft ts for 11 years (as opposed to 4). It's not about stealing your wifes underpants and make up and playing with yourself in the mirror while your baby is sleeping! :lol:

Furthermore, Transexualism does not creep up late in life (at 40) when you've reached a crossroad and you've not much to show for as a man. So you try and reinvent yourself and become a woman. It's a fucking joke and discredits all transexuals who started a long and painful journey to womanhood!

~Kisses.

HTG

[jjhill]

I'm personally not into fucking a woman (gg + tg) in the ass. I always think, that's where shit comes from. Clean or not, that's it purpose. As you'll can see. I'm fighting a lot of personal demons over here lol.

ok..so you don't fuck tg's in the ass, you don't get fucked by tg's, you don't like receiving or giving head..what do you do? lol

Honestly fuck pussy. I use to believe that sexual intercourse should only be with a dick and pussy

that's kool..so ur only into gg's and post-ops or u don't like plastic pussy's either.


I'm into gg's and tg's just never had sexual intercourse with the latter.

[DC]

JJhill, your not into ass fucking but you like TS's, if your not a bottom what do you do with TS's when you hook up with them..

[jjhill]

JJhill, your not into ass fucking but you like TS's, if your not a bottom what do you do with TS's when you hook up with them..

Read my post above yours

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

you must not be getting any dick

OMG! I just wanted to say, How the heck did I missed this?I'd lol'ed so much.. too funny! :claps

~Kisses.

HTG

[transmaven]

Hara's posts in this thread are pure common sense. Esp. regarding anal sex.

It's good to read posts from Hara because she is open, funny and has no real hang-ups that I can tell. And her longstanding contributions to this board are to be respected.

[tsmandy]

Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

[HP1000]

Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

Thankyou Mandy! My ex GF loved it.... :D

[transmaven]

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

That's right. Too many guys get drunk and while the girl is drunk as well they just kind of decide to *stick it in.* Alas it doesn't work like that unless you're on the set of Deliverance. Though that can work in a different way.

IOW, sometimes you take it nice and easy and sometimes she's gotta grunt like a pig. Either way it's a very, very sweet hole. ;)

[HP1000]

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

That's right. Too many guys get drunk and while the girl is drunk as well they just kind of decide to *stick it in.* Alas it doesn't work like that unless you're on the set of Deliverance. Though that can work in a different way.

IOW, sometimes you take it nice and easy and sometimes she's gotta grunt like a pig. Either way it's a very, very sweet hole. ;)


Dude you've watched to many Movies!

You must be into guys!

[BellaBellucci]

Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

I never argued the point. All I said was that not everyone enjoys it and that some women DO use it as an act of validation. One thing you'll learn about me is that I don't deal in absolutes. I'm only speaking up for myself and any others who disagree. Maybe I'm in the minority, but it doesn't make me wrong and I never claimed to speak for everyone.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

I never argued the point. All I said was that not everyone enjoys it and that some women DO use it as an act of validation. One thing you'll learn about me is that I don't deal in absolutes. I'm only speaking up for myself and any others who disagree. Maybe I'm in the minority, but it doesn't make me wrong and I never claimed to speak for everyone.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

I never argued the point. All I said was that not everyone enjoys it and that some women DO use it as an act of validation. One thing you'll learn about me is that I don't deal in absolutes. I'm only speaking up for myself and any others who disagree. Maybe I'm in the minority, but it doesn't make me wrong and I never claimed to speak for everyone.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

I never argued the point. All I said was that not everyone enjoys it and that some women DO use it as an act of validation. One thing you'll learn about me is that I don't deal in absolutes. I'm only speaking up for myself and any others who disagree. Maybe I'm in the minority, but it doesn't make me wrong and I never claimed to speak for everyone.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

I never argued the point. All I said was that not everyone enjoys it and that some women DO use it as an act of validation. One thing you'll learn about me is that I don't deal in absolutes. I'm only speaking up for myself and any others who disagree. Maybe I'm in the minority, but it doesn't make me wrong and I never claimed to speak for everyone.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hara's posts in this thread are pure common sense. Esp. regarding anal sex.

It's good to read posts from Hara because she is open, funny and has no real hang-ups that I can tell. And her longstanding contributions to this board are to be respected.

Since 2005, Thank you babe! :P


Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

:claps Apparently, someone must not have the opportunity to experience much less know that lil fact Mandy!

Come to think about it..my first time didn't go all that smoothly. I actually fainted on the floor and he only had the head halfway in. But that didn't stop me nor made me feel jaded about anal sex. It hurts every damn time..but I also enjoyed every minute of it! lol ;)



Many women love anal sex, because it feels awesome, not because they are seeking validation.

http://www.puckerup.com/?cPath=&products_id=314&tpid=8

For those that haven't enjoyed anal sex, maybe you just have had bad anal sex.

Thankyou Mandy! My ex GF loved it.... :D

This deserves more :claps :claps !! I rest my case.

:P

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Grrr. I got ghosted! MOD! CLEANUP AISLE 12!

~BB~

[rockabilly]

All this anal sex talk , some like it , some dont , Top , Bottom , Sidewinder , Cottonmouth , damn it now i'm more confused than before ... my mind is blown ... well gotta go to work bye ladies and gents. And girls play nice ;) bye Hara and Bella.

[HP1000]

Come to think about it..my first time didn't go all that smoothly. I actually fainted on the floor and he only had the head halfway in. But that didn't stop me nor made me feel jaded about anal sex. It hurts every damn time..but I also enjoyed every minute of it! lol


Damn Hara! That's hot..... :D Love a woman that admits it feels good :D

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fuking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
Meh, I don't think it's as simple as 1 of 2 reasons. I have only lived in LA 7 months, maybe set foot in my first TS club 6 months ago. I certainly wasn't thinking about specific sex acts. I was just dumbstruck by how cute, and how attracted I in fact was, to TS women. Just not an area I got to explore in Ferndale.

Come on! How many men would really date, live in or marry one? Not very many. Though since this is a tranny forum, we always hear the most political answer the one above or: I like trannies and I see them as women bullcrap. It's nothing but pure icing really when push comes to shove..they go gay or get married and have kids with women. I'm sure there's a few but the majority are just in it for the thrill of some shecock and asspussy if you ask me (and that's being honest)! ;)

And raybbaby, do you think you'd moved out here if LA is much like Ferndale? ;)

~Kisses.

HTG I'm sorry but I don't agree with your statement. I have no desire to suck a trannies cock or let them "top" me. I would also expect that a tranny would probably beat a GG hands down when it comes to sucking a cock because she can draw from experience as to how she might like her's sucked and use that knowledge when sucking someone else's. I do however get turned on by the thought of asspussy as most GG's are totally disgusted at the thought of ass fucking in my experience. I tried it only once on a GG and she was my "first" and I can still remember how tight it was all those years ago. I'm mainly attracted to trannies because I have no desire to be a father and procreate and it's way simpler to achieve that goal with someone who biologically can't reproduce. I also don't plan on switching teams either. I have not, nor ever will, find a man attractive and the thought of having sex with one is extremely repulsive to me. I'm probably the exception not the rule on this forum.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fuking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
Meh, I don't think it's as simple as 1 of 2 reasons. I have only lived in LA 7 months, maybe set foot in my first TS club 6 months ago. I certainly wasn't thinking about specific sex acts. I was just dumbstruck by how cute, and how attracted I in fact was, to TS women. Just not an area I got to explore in Ferndale.

Come on! How many men would really date, live in or marry one? Not very many. Though since this is a tranny forum, we always hear the most political answer the one above or: I like trannies and I see them as women bullcrap. It's nothing but pure icing really when push comes to shove..they go gay or get married and have kids with women. I'm sure there's a few but the majority are just in it for the thrill of some shecock and asspussy if you ask me (and that's being honest)! ;)

And raybbaby, do you think you'd moved out here if LA is much like Ferndale? ;)

~Kisses.

HTG I'm sorry but I don't agree with your statement. I have no desire to suck a trannies cock or let them "top" me. I would also expect that a tranny would probably beat a GG hands down when it comes to sucking a cock because she can draw from experience as to how she might like her's sucked and use that knowledge when sucking someone else's. I do however get turned on by the thought of asspussy as most GG's are totally disgusted at the thought of ass fucking in my experience. I tried it only once on a GG and she was my "first" and I can still remember how tight it was all those years ago. I'm mainly attracted to trannies because I have no desire to be a father and procreate and it's way simpler to achieve that goal with someone who biologically can't reproduce. I also don't plan on switching teams either. I have not, nor ever will, find a man attractive and the thought of having sex with one is extremely repulsive to me. I'm probably the exception not the rule on this forum.

And that is kewl! That reply was made for Ray not you! So you're another exception to the rule (there was one guy on a previous page) with regards to no.1..that's great!

But like you said, you like ass so again its No.2 for you - because you are turned on by trannies for their nice booty! So again, I was right, wasn't i? lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Come to think about it..my first time didn't go all that smoothly. I actually fainted on the floor and he only had the head halfway in. But that didn't stop me nor made me feel jaded about anal sex. It hurts every damn time..but I also enjoyed every minute of it! lol



Damn Hara! That's hot..... :D Love a woman that admits it feels good :D

lol Yes I know pain like no other. Howelse did you think I gotten into the bdsm business? lol I love it! ;)

http://virgosuperstar.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/erotica1.jpg

Erotica

My name is dita
Ill be your mistress tonight
Id like to put you in a trance

If I take you from behind
Push myself into your mind
When you least expect it
Will you try and reject it
If Im in charge and I treat you like a child
Will you let yourself go wild
Let my mouth go where it wants to

Rofl

~Kisses.

HTG

[AmericanDream]

Hara's wrong, end of story. Hara you can act as if you know more than we do or that you got it all figured out, but you're wrong sorry.

Do you know how many girls like anal sex? Obviously you don't think any really do, but actually a lot of girls like it and I know quite a few.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hara's wrong, end of story. Hara you can act as if you know more than we do or that you got it all figured out, but you're wrong sorry.

Do you know how many girls like anal sex? Obviously you don't think any really do, but actually a lot of girls like it and I know quite a few.

Zzzzzz...I believe you've done the same with Alyssa87. It's OLD by now!

And FYI! I wasn't the one who said gg's don't like anal sex. Learn to READ dude before you open your poop shoot! That was Bella not me. Talk about being clueless!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fuking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
Meh, I don't think it's as simple as 1 of 2 reasons. I have only lived in LA 7 months, maybe set foot in my first TS club 6 months ago. I certainly wasn't thinking about specific sex acts. I was just dumbstruck by how cute, and how attracted I in fact was, to TS women. Just not an area I got to explore in Ferndale.

Come on! How many men would really date, live in or marry one? Not very many. Though since this is a tranny forum, we always hear the most political answer the one above or: I like trannies and I see them as women bullcrap. It's nothing but pure icing really when push comes to shove..they go gay or get married and have kids with women. I'm sure there's a few but the majority are just in it for the thrill of some shecock and asspussy if you ask me (and that's being honest)! ;)

And raybbaby, do you think you'd moved out here if LA is much like Ferndale? ;)

~Kisses.

HTG I'm sorry but I don't agree with your statement. I have no desire to suck a trannies cock or let them "top" me. I would also expect that a tranny would probably beat a GG hands down when it comes to sucking a cock because she can draw from experience as to how she might like her's sucked and use that knowledge when sucking someone else's. I do however get turned on by the thought of asspussy as most GG's are totally disgusted at the thought of ass fucking in my experience. I tried it only once on a GG and she was my "first" and I can still remember how tight it was all those years ago. I'm mainly attracted to trannies because I have no desire to be a father and procreate and it's way simpler to achieve that goal with someone who biologically can't reproduce. I also don't plan on switching teams either. I have not, nor ever will, find a man attractive and the thought of having sex with one is extremely repulsive to me. I'm probably the exception not the rule on this forum.

And that is kewl! That reply was made for Ray not you! So you're another exception to the rule (there was one guy on a previous page) with regards to no.1..that's great!

But like you said, you like ass so again its No.2 for you - because you are turned on by trannies for their nice booty! So again, I was right, wasn't i? lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG Well I guess technically you're right (#2 for me) but how I read your statement is what's at issue for me. You said quote "for two main reasons". I took that to mean guys are on here for both of those reasons not one OR the other that's all I'm saying. I can also assure you that I'm not in denial of being a fag/gay as having a cock throttled down my throat/ass or ramming my cock down some guys throat/ass for that matter is not an appealing thought. :wink:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thats great Sulka_bewitched_me! I didn't say all men did i? I said no.1 and no.2 are the most reasons we hear didn't i?

lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Hara's wrong, end of story. Hara you can act as if you know more than we do or that you got it all figured out, but you're wrong sorry.

Do you know how many girls like anal sex? Obviously you don't think any really do, but actually a lot of girls like it and I know quite a few.

She's right. That was me. And for what may be the 110th time I've clarified, I said that MOST women prefer vaginal sex and MANY will never have anal. Again, I don't deal in absolutes. I'm only representing what may or may not be a minority of folk who do find bottoming painful under even in the most beneficial situations.

I never said that all of anyone does anything. I don't speak like that. To do so is prejudiced.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thanks for setting it straight Bella. Now can we all drop this and move on? The poll was a total landslide?

lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Thanks for setting it straight Bella. Now can we all drop this and move on? The poll was a total landslide?

lol

~Kisses.

HTG

You made your point with the poll but I still say I won the debate.

Moving on tho... lol

~BB~

[AmericanDream]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Yes it was you, not Bella, that brought up "The ass fucking taboo". Your saying "a lot of women wouldn't let a guy fuck them in the ass", but your wrong and I don't know what experiences you could be speaking from.
Also read the first line smart girl, you said guys who are into trannies, not some guys or most guys, maybe you should read the bullshit your writing.

It's getting old? Don't bring up other names into something completely irrelevant. What you said was wrong, stand your ground, and don't look for a copout.

Clueless?
Sounds like you ma.

I knew you were a real stubborn and arrogant person. you know it all right? nah. It really shows the level of ignorance and I need not say anymore.

[BellaBellucci]

Yes it was you, not Bella, that brought up "The ass fucking taboo". Your saying "a lot of women wouldn't let a guy fuck them in the ass", but your wrong and I don't know what experiences you could be speaking from.


If I may clarify here as well: I totally forgot that she said that about women not liking anal sex - apparently she changed up her story for the sake of disagreement, didn't she? I got so caught up in the whole thing that I missed that. Bravo!

On your second point - I already asked her what she knows of heterosexual relations and she declined to answer.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Yes it was you, not Bella, that brought up "The ass fucking taboo". Your saying "a lot of women wouldn't let a guy fuck them in the ass", but your wrong and I don't know what experiences you could be speaking from.

It's getting old? Don't start bringing other names into something completely irrelevant. What you said was wrong, stand your ground, and don't look for a copout.

Clueless?
Sounds like you ma.

I knew you were a real stubborn and arrogant person. you know it all right? nah. It really shows the level of ignorance and I need not say anymore.

Damn! I never thought I'd meet an even BIGGER IDIOT than Bella! First of all, women have vagina's therefore traditionally men fuck vagina's for sex and procreation. I mentioned the ass fucking taboo factor because IRL, out in the real world, not a lot of women liked being fuck in the ass (there are some. but the truth is its still a small percentage) compared to transgenders where the only hole we've got are out mouths and asses. There you go, ponder on it, then swallow it whole down your throat!

You're a chauvinist pig! I think you have a problem with women and tg's who's got a strong opinion. Well tough luck, not every woman and tg's are submissives. It's not arrogance when you know you're right unlike you!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Yes it was you, not Bella, that brought up "The ass fucking taboo". Your saying "a lot of women wouldn't let a guy fuck them in the ass", but your wrong and I don't know what experiences you could be speaking from.


If I may clarify here as well: I totally forgot that she said that about women not liking anal sex - apparently she changed up her story for the sake of disagreement, didn't she? I got so caught up in the whole thing that I missed that. Bravo!

On your second point - I already asked her what she knows of heterosexual relations and she declined to answer.

~BB~

I said that to compare ggs and tg's that likes or wants? anal sex! Furthermore, I also stated that men expect anal sex more with tg's than they do with gg's obviously for their lack of vagina's. An ass is used as a substitute for penetration!

What's not so clear about that??

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Yes it was you, not Bella, that brought up "The ass fucking taboo". Your saying "a lot of women wouldn't let a guy fuck them in the ass", but your wrong and I don't know what experiences you could be speaking from.


If I may clarify here as well: I totally forgot that she said that about women not liking anal sex - apparently she changed up her story for the sake of disagreement, didn't she? I got so caught up in the whole thing that I missed that. Bravo!

On your second point - I already asked her what she knows of heterosexual relations and she declined to answer.

~BB~

I said that to compare ggs and tg's that likes or wants? anal sex! Furthermore, I also stated that men expect anal sex more with tg's than they do with gg's obviously for their lack of vagina's. An ass is used as a substitute for penetration!

What's not so clear about that??

~Kisses.

HTG

OK. Back to the beginning: I never argued your point. I said it's wrong that men assume nearly 100% that every TS girl they meet likes anal sex. It's simply not true. It wasn't true when I said it at the beginning of this thread and it's not true now.

Just because they can't get pussy does NOT GUARANTEE that they're going to get ass.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thanks for setting it straight Bella. Now can we all drop this and move on? The poll was a total landslide?

lol

~Kisses.

HTG

You made your point with the poll but I still say I won the debate.

Moving on tho... lol

~BB~

Bitch w/e..I own your bony ass! You will clean my apt 2x a week..Get on with it!! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

OK. Back to the beginning: I never argued your point. I said it's wrong that men assume nearly 100% that every TS girl they meet likes anal sex. It's simply not true. It wasn't true when I said it at the beginning of this thread and it's not true now.

Just because they can't get pussy does NOT GUARANTEE that they're going to get ass.

~BB~

Then argue that with the men who voted on the polls or said their piece via a post - not with me. I only stated the overwhelming obvious! Get it?

~Kisses.

HTG

[AmericanDream]

For your information, you stated it as a fact and not an opinion. Ok?

"Not a whole lot of woman like being fucked in the ass" you say? Again I ask how do you know this and what experiences do you speak from??? They probably don't want you fucking them in the ass, but I know plenty of girls DTF in the butt, lots of them.

Anymore insults you want to hand out to show how much more ignorant you can be??

I sincerely feel sorry for you.

[BellaBellucci]

Thanks for setting it straight Bella. Now can we all drop this and move on? The poll was a total landslide?

lol

~Kisses.

HTG

You made your point with the poll but I still say I won the debate.

Moving on tho... lol

~BB~

Bitch w/e..I own your bony ass! You will clean my apt 2x a week..Get on with it!! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

I love it. Calling me bony is another of those jealousy indicators I was talking about. Hey, maybe if you start watching House on TV you'll learn about 10% of what I know about figuring people out.

Just to rub it in: I weigh about 140 pounds and can eat whatever I like. The metabolism runs in the family so it's unlikely to slow down much with age. What are you weighing in at these days champ?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

For your information, you stated it as a fact and not an opinion. Ok?

"Not a whole lot of woman like being fucked in the ass" you say? Again I ask how do you know this and what experiences do you speak from??? They probably don't want you fucking them in the ass, but I know plenty of girls DTF in the butt, lots of them.

Anymore insults you want to hand out to show how much more ignorant you can be??

I sincerely feel sorry for you.

Yeah and so? You attack facts? Isn't that moronic?

When I said not a lot of women like being fucked in the ass - It meant just that! If we're talking about percentage - they are slim compared to transgenders getting it in the ass! As far as experiences to back such claim..well, one I've travelled and lived in many places. Got lots of gg and tg friends - from the PI (a conservative catholic country), MN, NJ, NY and now CA (LA particularly) the overwhelming majority of women prefer vaginal sex..though there are a few women who prefer anal fucking by ratio the women who prefer vaginal fucking over anal sex still rules the majority 8-2 from what I've seen, heard and otherwise. Though It might be different with others and other cities or localities. Asian women (not western raised) rarely gets it up the ass..that much I can tell you. Asian tg's however 100% gets it in the ass in addition to giving a guy head. But the latter one (giving head to tg's) are rare and a slim margin. But that's another thread topic.

Again, you must be this bored with your life or not be getting any action and is sexually frustrated to even come here and purposely argue and irritate tg's online like me and Alyssa87. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I love it. Calling me bony is another of those jealousy indicators I was talking about. Hey, maybe if you start watching House on TV you'll learn about 10% of what I know about figuring people out.

Just to rub it in: I weigh about 140 pounds and can eat whatever I like. The metabolism runs in the family so it's unlikely to slow down much with age. What are you weighing in at these days champ?

~BB~

Why don't you tell me why I should be jealous of you Bella? Since you keep dropping hints you're somewhat to envy with? So let's have it!

If it interest you I'm 5'6 1/2 and about 140lbs. and how tall are you Daddy? lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[droog]

do you just like hitting the duke chutes, part #2

not to interrupt hara and bella's discussion, but wtf is a duke shute? who says that? lmao

[droog]

double post

[BellaBellucci]

I love it. Calling me bony is another of those jealousy indicators I was talking about. Hey, maybe if you start watching House on TV you'll learn about 10% of what I know about figuring people out.

Just to rub it in: I weigh about 140 pounds and can eat whatever I like. The metabolism runs in the family so it's unlikely to slow down much with age. What are you weighing in at these days champ?

~BB~

Why don't you tell me why I should be jealous of you Bella? Since you keep dropping hints your somewhat to envy with? So let's have it!

If it interest you I'm 5'6 1/2 and about 140lbs. and how tall are you Daddy? lol

~Kisses.

HTG

5'11" Loooong legs. And keep calling me Daddy - it just digs your hole of ignorance a little deeper with each utterance.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I love it. Calling me bony is another of those jealousy indicators I was talking about. Hey, maybe if you start watching House on TV you'll learn about 10% of what I know about figuring people out.

Just to rub it in: I weigh about 140 pounds and can eat whatever I like. The metabolism runs in the family so it's unlikely to slow down much with age. What are you weighing in at these days champ?

~BB~

Why don't you tell me why I should be jealous of you Bella? Since you keep dropping hints your somewhat to envy with? So let's have it!

If it interest you I'm 5'6 1/2 and about 140lbs. and how tall are you Daddy? lol

~Kisses.

HTG

5'11" Loooong legs. And keep calling me Daddy - it just digs your hole of ignorance a little deeper with each utterance.

~BB~

lmao but you forgot, looong semi brick faced daddy! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

I love it. Calling me bony is another of those jealousy indicators I was talking about. Hey, maybe if you start watching House on TV you'll learn about 10% of what I know about figuring people out.

Just to rub it in: I weigh about 140 pounds and can eat whatever I like. The metabolism runs in the family so it's unlikely to slow down much with age. What are you weighing in at these days champ?

~BB~

Why don't you tell me why I should be jealous of you Bella? Since you keep dropping hints your somewhat to envy with? So let's have it!

If it interest you I'm 5'6 1/2 and about 140lbs. and how tall are you Daddy? lol

~Kisses.

HTG

5'11" Loooong legs. And keep calling me Daddy - it just digs your hole of ignorance a little deeper with each utterance.

~BB~

lmao but you forgot, looong semi brick faced daddy! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Umm. Have you looked at your own nose and jawline lately? Glass houses honey. I never insulted your looks, just your weight... and in retaliation.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Umm. Have you looked at your own nose and jawline lately? Glass houses honey. I never insulted your looks, just your weight... and in retaliation.

~BB~

Same thing. Nothing wrong with my ht. and wt. my nose is fine..But speaking of glass houses, have you seen your own jawline and chin? I couldn't figure out if you got a Leno going on or your chin is blending in with your neck! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Umm. Have you looked at your own nose and jawline lately? Glass houses honey. I never insulted your looks, just your weight... and in retaliation.

~BB~

Same thing. Nothing wrong with my ht. and wt. my nose is fine..But speaking of glass houses, have you seen your own jawline and chin? I couldn't figure out if you got a Leno going on or your chin is blending in with your neck! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Your nose is tall and wide. It takes up most of your face. Your jaw is nearly completely square. I could use a nose job and a chin implant. So what? I know what I need. I'll get it. That'll be it. You know: just pointing out flaws to me that I'm already aware of isn't exactly going to get me to go all cat-fight on you. My looks are never a problem in the real world and anything I get done will be modeling related.

Funny. I think you're still here because you're frustrated about not being able to find something to say that will ACTUALLY set me off.

It's sad how much you underestimate me. I'm many things. Fragile is not one.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Your nose is tall and wide. It takes up most of your face. Your jaw is nearly completely square. I could use a nose job and a chin implant. So what? I know what I need. I'll get it. That'll be it. You know: just pointing out flaws to me that I'm already aware of isn't exactly going to get me to go all cat-fight on you. My looks are never a problem in the real world and anything I get done will be modeling related.



So if I'm NOT bothered by it why should you? If you say you wanted to get chin implants and a nose job, doesn't mean I'd follow suit just because you insulted my nose etc. I still want to look like me not duffy duck or something else that looked surprised (one facial expression) all the damn time. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Your nose is tall and wide. It takes up most of your face. Your jaw is nearly completely square. I could use a nose job and a chin implant. So what? I know what I need. I'll get it. That'll be it. You know: just pointing out flaws to me that I'm already aware of isn't exactly going to get me to go all cat-fight on you. My looks are never a problem in the real world and anything I get done will be modeling related.



So if I'm NOT bothered by it why should you? If you say you wanted to get chin implants and a nose job, doesn't mean I'd follow suit just because you insulted my nose etc. I still want to look like me not duffy duck or something else that looked surprised (one facial expression) all the damn time. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

I didn't say I was getting surgery because you pointed out my flaws or that you would or should do the same. I said I'd get it if it was worthy for my career but honestly I don't care if I never do. So, it looks like insulting each others looks is a draw then. What else can we fight over? ;)

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Your nose is tall and wide. It takes up most of your face. Your jaw is nearly completely square. I could use a nose job and a chin implant. So what? I know what I need. I'll get it. That'll be it. You know: just pointing out flaws to me that I'm already aware of isn't exactly going to get me to go all cat-fight on you. My looks are never a problem in the real world and anything I get done will be modeling related.



So if I'm NOT bothered by it why should you? If you say you wanted to get chin implants and a nose job, doesn't mean I'd follow suit just because you insulted my nose etc. I still want to look like me not duffy duck or something else that looked surprised (one facial expression) all the damn time. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

I didn't say I was getting surgery because you pointed out my flaws or that you would or should do the same. I said I'd get it if it was worthy for my career but honestly I don't care if I never do. So, it looks like insulting each others looks is a draw then. What else can we fight over? ;)

~BB~

I dunno. You tell me. How about being honest for starters and admit why you started on me on this thread on page 2?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Your nose is tall and wide. It takes up most of your face. Your jaw is nearly completely square. I could use a nose job and a chin implant. So what? I know what I need. I'll get it. That'll be it. You know: just pointing out flaws to me that I'm already aware of isn't exactly going to get me to go all cat-fight on you. My looks are never a problem in the real world and anything I get done will be modeling related.



So if I'm NOT bothered by it why should you? If you say you wanted to get chin implants and a nose job, doesn't mean I'd follow suit just because you insulted my nose etc. I still want to look like me not duffy duck or something else that looked surprised (one facial expression) all the damn time. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

I didn't say I was getting surgery because you pointed out my flaws or that you would or should do the same. I said I'd get it if it was worthy for my career but honestly I don't care if I never do. So, it looks like insulting each others looks is a draw then. What else can we fight over? ;)

~BB~

I dunno. You tell me. How about being honest for starters and admit why you started on me on this thread on page 2?

~Kisses.

HTG

Because you said that ass substitutes for pussy but also insinuated that if you're not a bottom, then you're not TS. Frankly, you're not the first person to make that claim, but guess what? It's still wrong. It's something many formerly gay TS's say to CLAIM transexualism as their own to the exclusion of those who were previously straight and whom you've pretty much said yourself you find to be nothing more than CDs.

That's funny. Everything I've been reading on the subject for the last 4-5 years tells me that gender identity and sexual orientation are independent of each other. In fact my own experiences would seem to verify that fact. Care to explain why, with all the division in the TG community, people like you have to divide the TS segment even farther?

I'm on hormones. I have an 'F' on my license. I did the therapy. I've been 'full-time' long enough that I now despise the very term. I have a complete, solid female identity and life and have for years. I'll get SRS when I can afford it. The only difference between you and me is that you started younger and always liked men. That really doesn't make you all that much different than me or really anyone else for that matter.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Because you said that ass substitutes for pussy

Yes I did. So what's wrong with that? It does happens, am I correct?


but also insinuated that if you're not a bottom, then you're not TS.

And how did I insinuate that? Point it to me.. :roll: As far as I know, I never said nor insinuated that. YOU took something I've said and interpret it as such. That's not my problem.


Frankly, you're not the first person to make that claim, but guess what? It's still wrong. It's something many formerly gay TS's say to CLAIM transexualism as their own to the exclusion of those who were previously straight and whom you've pretty much said yourself you find to be nothing more than CDs.

Well, one I'm no gay ts. I've had GID since I could remember at age 4-5 but never fully understand it or why I felt peculiar until puberty hits. Hence going under hrt at 14. It literally took me 4 years to finally go full time around the time I was a sophomore in college. If you thought I tried to exclude you and dispute your realness, its only because you were being a stubborn cunt and handed you real facts. If I hit it close to home oh well..I am not going to apologize if you don't!


That's funny. Everything I've been reading on the subject for the last 4-5 years tells me that gender identity and sexual orientation are independent of each other. In fact my own experiences would seem to verify that fact. Care to explain why, with all the division in the TG community, people like you have to divide the TS segment even farther?

Well since you were being a cunt in the past pages, I've opt to just go technical and use Harry Benjamin's case studies. After all, IT was THEE standard of care to date (I don't think someone else made a whole different one). It's still the one being followed here, Canada and Europe..unless you go private.


I'm on hormones. I have an 'F' on my license. I did the therapy. I've been 'full-time' long enough that I now despise the very term. I have a complete, solid female identity and life and have for years. I'll get SRS when I can afford it. The only difference between you and me is that you started younger and always liked men. That really doesn't make you all that much different than me or really anyone else for that matter.

~BB~

I'm also on mones, also got f on my id's etc., And no, I never really knew I even liked boys or men up until puberty. I've had crushes in school and mostly hang out with female classmates, had sleep overs etc. just like any normal female that age. My parents sent me to an all boys catholic prep school (high school) and i thought it was a nightmare.. that I would end up being riduculed or worst raped. I found out there were others like me so we bonded together. Boys in my year and higher years tease me and constantly ask me out. It seems heaven..close enough to living life as any girl would. We had proms, bivouacs, school programs etc. and the boys treated me as their girl classmates. I only had one bf in hs and we dated 2 years -junior and senior high. He was the popular 'jock' in school. And we only had sex like 2x in 2 years. So yeah, I dated and had near/close experiences growing up just as any real girl would. In the PI guys dates tg's and never question their sexuality, unlike guys here.

But anyways, it only set me off when you kept insisting and twisting my words when I said it differently..Only you gave and took it as something else than it really was (see my initial post and how you reacted)! Besides, I wouldn't stuck it out (argue) if I didn't have any valid points nor experiences to relate about the subject.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Because you said that ass substitutes for pussy


Yes I did. So what's wrong with that? It does happens, am I correct?

Your statement was unequivocal as if to say that if one doesn't have a pussy they MUST use their ass or else...


but also insinuated that if you're not a bottom, then you're not TS.


And how did I insinuate that? Point it to me.. :roll: As far as I know, I never said nor insinuated that. YOU took something I've said and interpret it as such. That's not my problem.

From page 4 of this thread:

Um, where do I start? Lets see, Trangenders transitions to live life opposite the genders they were born with. So by tradition tgirls are women, and as women "WE" do not top. lol Isn't being femme, breast, long hair etc. and topping men a "gay" thing to do? Think about it for a sec. That has only changed in like recent years due to the sudden boom of tgirl porn exposure online.


Frankly, you're not the first person to make that claim, but guess what? It's still wrong. It's something many formerly gay TS's say to CLAIM transexualism as their own to the exclusion of those who were previously straight and whom you've pretty much said yourself you find to be nothing more than CDs.


Well, one I'm no gay ts. I've had GID since I could remember at age 4-5 but never fully understand it or why I felt peculiar until puberty hits. Hence going under hrt at 14. It literally took me 4 years to finally go full time around the time I was a sophomore in college. If you thought I tried to exclude you and dispute your realness, its only because you were being a stubborn cunt and handed you real facts. If I hit it close to home oh well..I am not going to apologize if you don't!

You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.


But anyways, it only set me off when you kept insisting and twisting my words when I said it differently..Only you gave and took it as something else than it really was (see my initial post and how you reacted)! Besides, I wouldn't stuck it out(argue) if I didn't have any valid poinst nor experiences to relate about the subject.

~Kisses.

HTG

You should read your own words again.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Scratch everything written above. Lets focus on this two:



Your statement was unequivocal as if to say that if one doesn't have a pussy they MUST use their ass or else...

Not really. No one is sticking a gun at their head to get anal sex. Simply preposterous!




You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.

And you and everyone else on here (men and tg's) DO NOT? :lol: Was there any point to that? How else does one make love to people like us? That's just hilarious a statement!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Lemme catch up on what I've said on page 4:


Um, where do I start? Lets see, Trangenders transitions to live life opposite the genders they were born with. So by tradition tgirls are women, and as women "WE" do not top. lol Isn't being femme, breast, long hair etc. and topping men a "gay" thing to do? Think about it for a sec. That has only changed in like recent years due to the sudden boom of tgirl porn exposure online

I dunno where exactly you're from BB. But where I came from and raised, women do not top men. Asian TG's in Asian countries don't either. If you ever saw any asian tg's or women, that would only be in porn or of they were working as escorts.

The traditional female role society has taught and dictate to us is that: Women are the receivers not the pitchers. But this has nothing to do with your alleged statement that I said "If tg's don't top, they aren't tg's". I still don't see how the one's you quoted supporting that statement!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Scratch everything written above. Lets focus on this two:



Your statement was unequivocal as if to say that if one doesn't have a pussy they MUST use their ass or else...


Not really. No one is sticking a gun at their head to get anal sex. Simply preposterous!

No, not really. You said an ass is a substitute for a pussy; not that it CAN be a substitute, but that it IS a substitute, as if to say that it's equal. It's not.




You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.


And you and everyone else on here (men and tg's) DO NOT? :lol: Was there any point to that? How else does one make love to people like us? That's just hilarious a statement!

~Kisses.

HTG

Again your total dependence on anal sex for satisfaction only serves to highlight your lack of sexual experience outside of that act. Get some imagination, will ya? There's oral. There's BDSM. There's sex games like tease and denial. Your problem is creative laziness.

~BB~

http://310realestate.com/images/pic_schools.jpg
School's In Bitchez!!

[BellaBellucci]

Lemme catch up on what I've said on page 4:


Um, where do I start? Lets see, Trangenders transitions to live life opposite the genders they were born with. So by tradition tgirls are women, and as women "WE" do not top. lol Isn't being femme, breast, long hair etc. and topping men a "gay" thing to do? Think about it for a sec. That has only changed in like recent years due to the sudden boom of tgirl porn exposure online

I dunno where exactly you're from BB. But where I came from and raised, women do not top men. Asian TG's in Asian countries don't either. If you ever saw any asian tg's or women, that would only be in porn or of they were working as escorts.

The traditional female role society has taught and dictate to us is that: Women are the receivers not the pitchers. But this has nothing to do with your alleged statement that I said "If tg's don't top, they aren't tg's". I still don't see how the one's you quoted supporting that statement!

~Kisses.

HTG

Hey guess what? TRADITIONALLY, women CAN'T be pitchers. Duh. Where do I come from? I come from a place where people define themselves. Clearly I've done that for me. I'm sorry if you place your cultural expectations above your own self-interests and can't do the same for yourself. But you really only do that selectively, don't you? Else you'd still be a man.

And what you're saying here is that if TS women don't BOTTOM, then they aren't TS. You just inverted your own sentence.

~BB~

[2009AD]

:boring

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

No, not really. You said an ass is a substitute for a pussy; not that it CAN be a substitute, but that it IS a substitute, as if to say that it's equal. It's not.

Can, Is = Same difference. An ass is used by some/many couples when a female vagina is menstruating.




Again your total dependence on anal sex for satisfaction only serves to highlight your lack of sexual experience outside of that act. Get some imagination, will ya? There's oral. There's BDSM. There's sex games like tease and denial. Your problem is creative laziness.

~BB~

Again, I was raised catholic. Don't give me that sodomy spiel! I know what it is and what it is is being widely practiced by most IF not all of us on here! So gimme a break! Why don't you try and explain sodomy to your son? You've done it a few times don't you? How do you explain to him why different guys come by your house at different hours of the day? And why is his Dad dressed in Mommy's clothes and had make up on. Why is Dad now called Mommy? And why Mommy has a dick like him?

I am NOT dependent on anal sex. And frankly, I could live off without it because I got an oral fixation which I tend to focus on more. Do NOT try and lecture me about bdsm stuffs cos I've done it since 2000 and worked as a pro domme back east - 9 years in the lifestyle to be exact. I am never out of ideas in or out of the bedroom. So what else you got?

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hey guess what? TRADITIONALLY, women CAN'T be pitchers. Duh. Where do I come from? I come from a place where people define themselves. Clearly I've done that for me. I'm sorry if you place your cultural expectations above your own self-interests and can't do the same for yourself. But you really only do that selectively, don't you? Else you'd still be a man.

And what you're saying here is that if TS women don't BOTTOM, then they aren't TS. You just inverted your own sentence.

~BB~

:roll: Your arguments gets weaker and weaker by every post you make. And who said women cant be pitchers? Its 2009 and all women baseball leagues do exist! My cultural background hasn't hindered me to let go and feel free and experiment with my sexuality unlike yours has! Must be a generational thing..How old are you again? Older people refuse to accept change. That seems befitting to you!

God, you must be that desperate to win so you ignore common sense! TG women bottom for the reason we do not have any other hole down below for our lovers to make love with. Getting head (even vaginal intercourse) could proved boring after awhile..so what do people do? They experiment!

If you still don't get that..I'm done with you! You're a thick headed and retarded as a 10 year old bratty child.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Again, I was raised catholic. Don't give me that sodomy spiel! I know what it is and what it is is being widely practiced by most IF not all of us on here! So gimme a break!

I am NOT dependent on anal sex. And frankly, I could live off without it because I got an oral fixation which I tend to focus on more. Do NOT try and lecture me about bdsm stuffs cos I've done it since 2000 and worked as a pro domme back east - 9 years in the lifestyle to be exact. I am never out of ideas in or out of the bedroom. So what else you got?

~Kisses.

HTG

You make it easy for a person to make the same conclusion that I did regarding your imagination since you are incessantly insinuating that the only alternative to fucking pussy is fucking ass. But since we're on the topic, Catholics aren't particularly fond of BDSM either. You must have the most eccentric moral system of anyone I've ever known.


You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.


And you and everyone else on here (men and tg's) DO NOT? Was there any point to that? How else does one make love to people like us? That's just hilarious a statement!

If you don't want your words to come back to haunt you, I suggest you think before you type.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Hey guess what? TRADITIONALLY, women CAN'T be pitchers. Duh. Where do I come from? I come from a place where people define themselves. Clearly I've done that for me. I'm sorry if you place your cultural expectations above your own self-interests and can't do the same for yourself. But you really only do that selectively, don't you? Else you'd still be a man.

And what you're saying here is that if TS women don't BOTTOM, then they aren't TS. You just inverted your own sentence.

~BB~

:roll: Your arguments gets weaker and weaker by every post you make. And who said women cant be pitchers? Its 2009 and all women baseball leagues do exist! My cultural background hasn't hindered me to let go and feel free and experiment with my sexuality unlike yours has! Must be a generational thing..How old are you again? Older people refuse to accept change. That seems befitting to you!

God, you must be that desperate to win so you ignore common sense! TG women bottom for the reason we do not have any other hole down below for our lovers to make love with. Getting head (even vaginal intercourse) could proved boring after awhile..so what do people do? They experiment!

If you still don't get that..I'm done with you! You're a thick headed and retarded as a 10 year old bratty child.

~Kisses.

HTG

What is your obsession with my age? I am NOT a late-transitioner. Beyond that, my age is none of yours or anyone else's business for the time being. How old do you THINK I am?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You make it easy for a person to make the same conclusion that I did regarding your imagination since you are incessantly insinuating that the only alternative to fucking pussy is fucking ass. But since we're on the topic, Catholics aren't particularly fond of BDSM either. You must have the most eccentric moral system of anyone I've ever known.

Really? And whoever gave you an idea I was devout catholic and religious? Also, Catholicism came from Spain, where they've honed the art of spanish inquisition similar to bdsm. Check your history Daddy tranny!


You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.


And you and everyone else on here (men and tg's) DO NOT? Was there any point to that? How else does one make love to people like us? That's just hilarious a statement!


If you don't want your words to come back to haunt you, I suggest you think before you type.

~BB~

Haunt me like how so? Like I said, debating with you, who's mental capacity and attitude is that of a bratty 10 year old boy is fruitless! If it doesn't make sense or sink in to you then so be it! I'm not the one who's appearing unstable and laughable - YOU are!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

You've once again resorted to name calling. As far as I'm concerned, that's a concession since you're out of merit-based arguments. Nite nite. You bore me now. I'm going to get some rest. I should sleep well tonite considering my well-deserved victory.

'Tranny troll,' indeed.

"~Kisses"

~BB~

[rockabilly]

Wow ... I make a breakfast run and you ladies are still at it. :shrug: Your tearing each other new ones :lol:

[AmericanDream]

For your information, you stated it as a fact and not an opinion. Ok?

"Not a whole lot of woman like being fucked in the ass" you say? Again I ask how do you know this and what experiences do you speak from??? They probably don't want you fucking them in the ass, but I know plenty of girls DTF in the butt, lots of them.

Anymore insults you want to hand out to show how much more ignorant you can be??

I sincerely feel sorry for you.

Yeah and so? You attack facts? Isn't that moronic?

When I said not a lot of women like being fucked in the ass - It meant just that! If we're talking about percentage - they are slim compared to transgenders getting it in the ass! As far as experiences to back such claim..well, one I've travelled and lived in many places. Got lots of gg and tg friends - from the PI (a conservative catholic country), MN, NJ, NY and now CA (LA particularly) the overwhelming majority of women prefer vaginal sex..though there are a few women who prefer anal fucking by ratio the women who prefer vaginal fucking over anal sex still rules the majority 8-2 from what I've seen, heard and otherwise. Though It might be different with others and other cities or localities. Asian women (not western raised) rarely gets it up the ass..that much I can tell you. Asian tg's however 100% gets it in the ass in addition to giving a guy head. But the latter one (giving head to tg's) are rare and a slim margin. But that's another thread topic.

Again, you must be this bored with your life or not be getting any action and is sexually frustrated to even come here and purposely argue and irritate tg's online like me and Alyssa87. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

Holy crap your dumb and I'm suprised you haven't been banned.
How do you know that I've irritated Alyssa87? Again, don't talk about shit you know nothing about.

Attacking facts?
It's not a fact that most women won't take it in the ass and you even said they PREFER vaginal sex. Lots of girls do want it in the back and from your limited experiences I don't know how you think you know percentages and everything.

Asian culture and American culture is far different, so when your trying to talk about Americans and American culture, make sure you know what the hell your talking about.

I don't know why your worried about me getting any either, insecure much? Have you not been getting any? Or just by some Johns who pay? I thought so... Don't worry about what I do, you got proved wrong and can't accept it, because your so damn arrogant.

You even speak as if post-op TG's don't exist, damn your ignorant.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You've once again resorted to name calling. As far as I'm concerned, that's a concession since you're out of merit-based arguments. Nite nite. You bore me now. I'm going to get some rest. I should sleep well tonite considering my well-deserved victory.

'Tranny troll,' indeed.

"~Kisses"

~BB~

Pfff, you've proved NOTHING except your LACK of common sense to understand nor process anything and show the whole board how THICK and DENSE in the head you really are, Daddy tranny!

http://www.nataliedee.com/012907/dont-talk-so-loud-moron.jpg

~Kisses.

HTG

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

:jawdrop :sleep

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Holy crap your dumb and I'm suprised you haven't been banned.
How do you know that I've irritated Alyssa87? Again, don't talk about shit you know nothing about.

It's spelled surprised genius. Oh and don't worry about me..you will be, SOON!

Watch!


I don't know why your worried about me getting any either, insecure much? Have you not been getting any? Or just by some Johns who pay? I thought so... Don't worry about what I do, you got proved wrong and can't accept it, because your so damn arrogant.

Not at all worried. I get laid pretty much regularly without even exerting much efforts. But obviously, looking at your post - everybody could tell that you're sexually frustrated because you act like a fierce butch queen on meth who hasn't gotten laid like forever! lol


You even speak as if post-op TG's don't exist, damn your ignorant.

WTF are you talking abouts now? Where in this thread did I mentioned post op's again, dufus?

~Kisses.

HTG

[AmericanDream]

wow how ignorant...

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

wow how ignorant...

Mods can we do an IP check pls.?




You want to talk about Bellucci's looks? That's out of line, your ugly as shit and you look like an old chinese man with a wig. Sorry stupid. Don't try to talk on things you know nothing about, ignorant boy.



Oh really? That's funny, considering you don't even got a face to show and is cowardly hiding behind the cloak of anonymity! Um, So lemme guess..I bet you're MANICA FOXXX hiding behind this new ha id of yours huh? You know what gives you away? It's the same old rant you spew on me every time! Time to get creative FATTY! :lol:

So now that we got that cleared up..Why don't you tickle your throat and vomit, you BIG FAT BEAST!

Aren't you having your Saturday special? You should be busy or maybe NOT!! lol


SPECIAL RATE FOR TS MONICA FOXX - FRIDAY & SATURDAY ONLY

$100/ half hour

I normally DO NOT stray below $250 for my time but tonight and tommorow I am making a rare exception. THIS IS ONLY FOR TODAY AND TOMMOROW. If you call me after Saturday and ask for the special rate expect to be hung up on instantly!!

Call me anytime... 410.262.4576

www.Monicas2Hot.com

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/112/l_e1ae85e17afa4aebb0b662d1e579fcc3.jpg

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.

You should read your own words again.

~BB~

Wow. I'm confused. This was a moral issue for you?

Sodomy laws are based on antiquated sexual morality mostly found in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic beliefs as well as many other cultures. "Sodomy" has generally been replaced with "deviant sexual intercourse". But those laws are usually found to be unconstitutional, or they get replaced with a different type of legislation. But most places that retain "sodomy laws" do so as a deterrent against homosexually ie. non-procreative sex.

But I can't follow you beyond that point. You're trying to define homosexuality as anything other basic hetero sex? What happens when a woman fucks a a man in the ass with a strap on. That's gay as well? Is she gay, or just him? Is a female getting it in the culo being gay?

[BellaBellucci]

You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.

You should read your own words again.

~BB~

Wow. I'm confused. This was a moral issue for you?

Sodomy laws are based on antiquated sexual morality mostly found in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic beliefs as well as many other cultures. "Sodomy" has generally been replaced with "deviant sexual intercourse". But those laws are usually found to be unconstitutional, or they get replaced with a different type of legislation. But most places that retain "sodomy laws" do so as a deterrent against homosexually ie. non-procreative sex.

But I can't follow you beyond that point. You're trying to define homosexuality as anything other basic hetero sex? What happens when a woman fucks a a man in the ass with a strap on. That's gay as well? Is she gay, or just him? Is a female getting it in the culo being gay?

I'm not trying to define a thing and I understand and agree with everything you say here. I don't have a problem with any kind of sex other than I don't like to bottom. I'm just asking HTG to define her sexuality for us because her explanations are ambiguous at best.

This has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with her attitude towards it.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.

You should read your own words again.

~BB~

Wow. I'm confused. This was a moral issue for you?

Sodomy laws are based on antiquated sexual morality mostly found in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic beliefs as well as many other cultures. "Sodomy" has generally been replaced with "deviant sexual intercourse". But those laws are usually found to be unconstitutional, or they get replaced with a different type of legislation. But most places that retain "sodomy laws" do so as a deterrent against homosexually ie. non-procreative sex.

But I can't follow you beyond that point. You're trying to define homosexuality as anything other basic hetero sex? What happens when a woman fucks a a man in the ass with a strap on. That's gay as well? Is she gay, or just him? Is a female getting it in the culo being gay?

I think what she was 'trying' to establish is to make me somehow appear a gay ts. So she in turn used sodomy as grounds to which she also admitted to having done (topping and bottoming) with clients. Therefore, her argument is weak at this point because as we all know, everyone on here (except a few) have engaged in the act!

So she failed in trying to established her hidden agenda because unfortunately, it also does apply to her! Talk about being hypocritical!

It's really pathetic, all these coming from someone who claimed to be STR8 and then all of the sudden after being married to a woman, fathering a kid.. turned into a latent tranny and prostitute at that! But giving us lessons in morality and sodomy. SMH

~Kisses.

HTG

[Felicia Katt]

I don't really have the time or stomach to digest 18 pages about this, but I have to say, since I know and like and respect you both, its upsetting to see friends of mine as enemies of each other. :(

FK

[BellaBellucci]

You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.

You should read your own words again.

~BB~

Wow. I'm confused. This was a moral issue for you?

Sodomy laws are based on antiquated sexual morality mostly found in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic beliefs as well as many other cultures. "Sodomy" has generally been replaced with "deviant sexual intercourse". But those laws are usually found to be unconstitutional, or they get replaced with a different type of legislation. But most places that retain "sodomy laws" do so as a deterrent against homosexually ie. non-procreative sex.

But I can't follow you beyond that point. You're trying to define homosexuality as anything other basic hetero sex? What happens when a woman fucks a a man in the ass with a strap on. That's gay as well? Is she gay, or just him? Is a female getting it in the culo being gay?

I think what she was 'trying' to establish is to make me somehow appear a gay ts. So she in turn used sodomy as grounds to which she also admitted to having done (topping and bottoming) with clients. Therefore, her argument is weak at this point because as we all know, everyone on here (except a few) have engaged in the act!

So she failed in trying to established her hidden agenda because unfortunately, it also does apply to her! Talk about being hypocritical!

It's really pathetic, all these coming from someone who claimed to be STR8 and then all of the sudden after being married to a woman, fathering a kid.. turned into a latent tranny and prostitute at that! But giving us lessons in morality and sodomy. SMH

~Kisses.

HTG

MY GODS are you retarded! I have no 'hidden agenda.' I simply threw your own words back at you in case you wanted to rephrase. You said that bottoming makes you feel more like a woman because 'women don't top.' All I said is that it's all sodomy and there are plenty of people out there who lump any activity of this type under the category of 'gay.'

If you didn't mean it, YOU shouldn't have said it.

I just woke up and lo and behold - more stupidity. Sadly, now you've got ME calling names because the use of logic fails with you.

Again, if you don't want your words used against you, choose them more carefully.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

MY GODS are you retarded! I have no 'hidden agenda.' I simply threw your own words back at you in case you wanted to rephrase. You said that bottoming makes you feel more like a woman because 'women don't top.' All I said is that it's all sodomy and there are plenty of people out there who lump any activity of this type under the category of 'gay.'

If you didn't mean it, YOU shouldn't have said it.

I just woke up and lo and behold - more stupidity. Sadly, now you've got ME calling names because the use of logic fails with you.

Again, if you don't want your words used against you, choose them more carefully.

~BB~

Dumb bitch now where in the past 18 pages have I typed that?? Where? You're really dumb and is lost in your own world. You're the one who said If you don't bottom..you're not a woman bull crap! NOT ME! YOUR the one who mentioned anal sex = validation - Get that straight into your dense skull! Goddd..You must have ADHD you couldn't keep conversations straight!!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

MY GODS are you retarded! I have no 'hidden agenda.' I simply threw your own words back at you in case you wanted to rephrase. You said that bottoming makes you feel more like a woman because 'women don't top.' All I said is that it's all sodomy and there are plenty of people out there who lump any activity of this type under the category of 'gay.'

If you didn't mean it, YOU shouldn't have said it.

I just woke up and lo and behold - more stupidity. Sadly, now you've got ME calling names because the use of logic fails with you.

Again, if you don't want your words used against you, choose them more carefully.

~BB~

Dumb bitch now where in the past 18 pages have I typed that?? Where? You're really dumb and is lost in your own world. You're the one who said If you don't bottom..you're not a woman bull crap! NOT ME! YOUR the one who mentioned anal sex = validation - Get that straight into your dense skull! Goddd..You must have ADHD you couldn't keep conversations straight!!

~Kisses.

HTG


I dunno where exactly you're from BB. But where I came from and raised, women do not top men. Asian TG's in Asian countries don't either. If you ever saw any asian tg's or women, that would only be in porn or of they were working as escorts.

The traditional female role society has taught and dictate to us is that: Women are the receivers not the pitchers. But this has nothing to do with your alleged statement that I said "If tg's don't top, they aren't tg's". I still don't see how the one's you quoted supporting that statement!

Selective memory much? And remember you even mistyped: I'm pretty sure you meant to say that if TG's don't BOTTOM, they aren't TG. You seriously either need to make up your mind or see someone for that Multiple Personality Disorder.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

That was an alleged statement you accused me of saying. I barely mentioned it on that post when I was explaining female traditional roles in any culture. So show me where I directly said bottoming makes me feel more like a woman bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

That was an alleged statement you accused me of saying. I barely mentioned it on that post when I was explaining female traditional roles in any culture. So show me where I directly said bottoming makes me feel more like a woman bitch!

~Kisses.

HTG

That's essentially the same thing and you know it. You're arguing semantics now because you don't even remember what you say half the time. You talk of bottoming because your culture 'expects' it, but then you try to tell me that you don't do it for validation and that because you didn't outright say that it 'makes you feel like a woman,' that it doesn't? Ok then, one possibility is that you're changing your story and the other is that you're a cultural sell-out. Which is it? Does topping make you feel like a woman? So what DOES make you feel like a woman? For me it has NOTHING to do with sex.

I don't normally do this, but it's way beyond time: stfu.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

You're not gay but you do have sex the way gays have sex. Just sayin'. Sodomy is sodomy and you've already admitted to both topping and bottoming. By your own definition that makes you a gay man.

You should read your own words again.

~BB~

Wow. I'm confused. This was a moral issue for you?

Sodomy laws are based on antiquated sexual morality mostly found in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic beliefs as well as many other cultures. "Sodomy" has generally been replaced with "deviant sexual intercourse". But those laws are usually found to be unconstitutional, or they get replaced with a different type of legislation. But most places that retain "sodomy laws" do so as a deterrent against homosexually ie. non-procreative sex.

But I can't follow you beyond that point. You're trying to define homosexuality as anything other basic hetero sex? What happens when a woman fucks a a man in the ass with a strap on. That's gay as well? Is she gay, or just him? Is a female getting it in the culo being gay?

I think what she was 'trying' to establish is to make me somehow appear a gay ts. So she in turn used sodomy as grounds to which she also admitted to having done (topping and bottoming) with clients. Therefore, her argument is weak at this point because as we all know, everyone on here (except a few) have engaged in the act!

So she failed in trying to established her hidden agenda because unfortunately, it also does apply to her! Talk about being hypocritical!

It's really pathetic, all these coming from someone who claimed to be STR8 and then all of the sudden after being married to a woman, fathering a kid.. turned into a latent tranny and prostitute at that! But giving us lessons in morality and sodomy. SMH

~Kisses.

HTG

You keep using that expression 'latent trany.' WTF does that even mean? And so what if I fathered a child? You REALLY think I'm the only tranny who has a kid? You must be REALLY sheltered and yet that doesn't stop you from attacking people on subjects about which you have NO knowledge.

Stubborn.

Insolent.

Child.

~BB~

[timebomb]

I have to agree with Hara's original post - that men want the cock or to hit up T-girls anally. Hitting chicks in the ass is becoming a more popular and socially acceptable thing these days, so I don't really see why its such an outrageous position to believe that is the situation with T-girls.

I cannot understand how anyone could have contention with what Hara is saying. Although there may be "some" in the world that don't fall into the 2 categories Hara originally stated, it could be said that MOST fall into it. So to argue for 18 pages that Hara is wrong seems really pointless.

Just my 2 cents.

[BellaBellucci]

I have to agree with Hara's original post - that men want the cock or to hit up T-girls anally. Hitting chicks in the ass is becoming a more popular and socially acceptable thing these days, so I don't really see why its such an outrageous position to believe that is the situation with T-girls.

I cannot understand how anyone could have contention with what Hara is saying. Although there may be "some" in the world that don't fall into the 2 categories Hara originally stated, it could be said that MOST fall into it. So to argue for 18 pages that Hara is wrong seems really pointless.

Just my 2 cents.

OMG. It's not about 'acceptance' or anyone being 'wrong.' I'm not even arguing about whether or not most men like anal sex. What I'm saying is I don't think it's right for men to ASSUME that every TS likes it just because they don't have a vagina and/or because most born women won't fuck them that way.

Those who were previously gay will likely bottom, but we weren't all gay before transition (that doesn't make us men as Hara suggests in her self-proclaimed superiority) and I think that assumption is prejudicial and wrong. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Just as anal sex is not 'wrong,' neither is disliking it - even if you're TS. There's no rule that says otherwise.

The 18 pages is because Hara just can't stand anyone who has a differing opinion about anything.

~BB~

[timebomb]

BB - I don't think your opinion was simply "not all t-girls like it in their butt". That is a perfectly logical assumption, because not everyone will like a certain thing.

But you seemed to get really offended that anyone would not consider that some girls don't bottom. I don't see why you got so offended by that because its seems like MOST t-girls bottom at some point or another.

Just some perspective, if someone called me out on something I know is true MOST of the time, and told me I was ignorant, stupid, and insensitive to other views I wouldn't take it so well either.

IF you look at Hara's original post, she stated those where the TOP 2 reasons, she never said they were the only reasons. You could have simply stated not all T-girls like it in there butt, and everyone would have recognized that for the most part that has to be true. But rather it seems you want to "win" the conversation when Hara never was trying to create a debatable issue.

[BellaBellucci]

BB - I don't think your opinion was simply "not all t-girls like it in their butt". That is a perfectly logical assumption, because not everyone will like a certain thing.

But you seemed to get really offended that anyone would not consider that some girls don't bottom. I don't see why you got so offended by that because its seems like MOST t-girls bottom at some point or another.

Just some perspective, if someone called me out on something I know is true MOST of the time, and told me I was ignorant, stupid, and insensitive to other views I wouldn't take it so well either.

IF you look at Hara's original post, she stated those where the TOP 2 reasons, she never said they were the only reasons. You could have simply stated not all T-girls like it in there butt, and everyone would have recognized that for the most part that has to be true. But rather it seems you want to "win" the conversation when Hara never was trying to create a debatable issue.

First of all, I didn't call her names until she started it. It's not my style. As you can see I am perfectly capable of articulating my opinion without insults. If I insult someone it's not because I can't find the right words to say something, it's because my words aren't even getting through enough for the other party to give them even cursory consideration.

The same goes for your allegation that I want to 'win' a debate. Trust me, that wasn't the plan originally. The problem is that Hara seems to be intolerant of those who don't like to bottom so much when she calls us men and 'latent transitioners.' Again, it's true that most TS have bottomed, but she's clearly prejudiced against those who don't like it. Do you really not see that?

Oh, and things that are true most of the time? Black people like watermelon and voted for Barack Obama. Italians like Parmesan cheese and are Catholic. Americans are arrogant and elected Bush twice. Saying those things is racist, but operating under that assumption that there are so few trannies who don't like to bottom that they aren't worth mentioning isn't rooted in prejudice? If she's going to sit here and be an 'expert' on something, she ought to represent all angles and not pass judgment on those who are different - something she should have learned through all of her years of people passing judgement on her simply for being trans in the first place.

Nice try. Hypocrisy FAIL.

~BB~

[timebomb]

I don't see how acknowledging the main reasons why men are into t-girls is prejudicial in any way. So by me making a statement that most Italians are Catholic, I have some how become intolerant? I don't see the racist connection to your argument. Most people I know eat meat, most people I know celebrate christmas. It's just a statement that acknowledges the majority opinion.

[BellaBellucci]

I don't see how acknowledging the main reasons why men are into t-girls is prejudicial in any way. So by me making a statement that most Italians are Catholic, I have some how become intolerant? I don't see the racist connection to your argument. Most people I know eat meat, most people I know celebrate christmas. It's just a statement that acknowledges the majority opinion.

She doesn't say 'most.' *I* am the one that uses flexible terminology. She likes to be unequivocal. She's pretty much said that ALL trannies should like to bottom or they're not women. She even cited a cultural angle. Then she tried to deny it. Then she tried to play it down as just 'an example.' You get the idea.

Methinks you need to read the thread before you try to force me to spell it out for you again. I've made my point clear a few times already. Stop being so lazy and go read it.

~BB~

[timebomb]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear?

HTG

I read most of the posts. But I was responding to you based on what you had typed to me. It looks to me that she originally said "most".

[Nicole Dupre]

OMG. It's not about 'acceptance' or anyone being 'wrong.' I'm not even arguing about whether or not most men like anal sex. What I'm saying is I don't think it's right for men to ASSUME that every TS likes it just because they don't have a vagina and/or because most born women won't fuck them that way.

Those who were previously gay will likely bottom, but we weren't all gay before transition (that doesn't make us men as Hara suggests in her self-proclaimed superiority) and I think that assumption is prejudicial and wrong. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Just as anal sex is not 'wrong,' neither is disliking it - even if you're TS. There's no rule that says otherwise.

The 18 pages is because Hara just can't stand anyone who has a differing opinion about anything.

~BB~
Personally, I think saying that any TS was "gay before they transitioned" is a slippery slope. If you waited until you were a F/T TS to be with men; in a world that has sodomy laws, you as pre-op will be "officially" gay now also, even if it was all for porn.

Btw there is nothing I would do in porn that I wouldn't do IRL under the right circumstances. Because porn is still PART OF your RL. I would never have sex with someone unless I was going to enjoy it, LTRs aside.

Anyway, two consenting adults having sex, as captured on digital media, is always going to stand as a testament to what you were comfortable with. If your shoots were making your skin crawl, sooner or later it would show anyway. So I think on some level, you have to include yourself as a willing participant in what some people still refer to as "sodomy".

[sucka4chix]

Wow, almost 20 pages of useless bullshit. Just think what problems could've been solved with all that wasted energy--- hell y'all coulda invented a 100 mpg car by now!
If you don't like a particular act, say so and keep it moving. But don't speak for entire groups of people that your own sampling is a very minute part of. When you say most GGs do like this or don't like that-- did you do some kind of study?
The facts are that dicks like to be stimulated. Dicks don't care how they are stimulated. Dicks can't differentiate between ass and pussy. If left to it's own devices, a dick will enter every available orifice. It is your brain that keeps it out of asses.
The fact also is that GGs and TSes and fags and straight men like anal stimulation. That doesn't mean all do. All people don't do anything. Most people who don't like anal sex have never really tried anal sex because it is initially very painful. But the anus doesn't hurt, the sphincter hurts. That goes away. Females like the vibration, guys get prostate stimulation. A guy or TS will never cum harder than he does from anal stimulation. That is a fact.
Now going back to page 1, of course guys like the "duke chute" because they like to fuck, and that's the available orifice a pre-op is outfitted with. I myself have always had an anal fetish, sticking my finger in it while I fucked pussy (btw, the majority of GGs I dated asked to be fucked in the ass, and I know girls who fucked in their asses for years to preserve their virginity).
You can't say anal sex is overrated if you can't first state how it is rated, and I don't recall ANYONE ever saying that. Just say it's not for you.

[BellaBellucci]

OMG. It's not about 'acceptance' or anyone being 'wrong.' I'm not even arguing about whether or not most men like anal sex. What I'm saying is I don't think it's right for men to ASSUME that every TS likes it just because they don't have a vagina and/or because most born women won't fuck them that way.

Those who were previously gay will likely bottom, but we weren't all gay before transition (that doesn't make us men as Hara suggests in her self-proclaimed superiority) and I think that assumption is prejudicial and wrong. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Just as anal sex is not 'wrong,' neither is disliking it - even if you're TS. There's no rule that says otherwise.

The 18 pages is because Hara just can't stand anyone who has a differing opinion about anything.

~BB~
Personally, I think saying that any TS was "gay before they transitioned" is a slippery slope. If you waited until you were a F/T TS to be with men; in a world that has sodomy laws, you as pre-op will be "officially" gay now also, even if it was all for porn.

Btw there is nothing I would do in porn that I wouldn't do IRL under the right circumstances. Because porn is still PART OF your RL. I would never have sex with someone unless I was going to enjoy it, LTRs aside.

Anyway, two consenting adults having sex, as captured on digital media, still is going to stand as a testament to what you're comfortable with. If your shoots were making your skin crawl, sooner or later it would show anyway. So I think on some level, you have to include yourself as a willing participant in what some people still refer to as "sodomy".

Thanks for the input Nicole but I'm still not arguing the fact. I agree 100%. That doesn't change Hara's insistence that even though genitalia can't tell you who you are as a person, somehow the way you have sex can. She's yet to defend this position after trying to deny it. This really has nothing to do with 'gayness' and sodomy. That was just another semantic argument she started to divert attention from her weak main argument.

She's not much of a debater.

~BB~

[tsmandy]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear?

HTG

I read most of the posts. But I was responding to you based on what you had typed to me. It looks to me that she originally said "most".

Dude. Seriously. I'm done. Who the fuck are you? Hara's alter-ego? :banghead


With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Wow, almost 20 pages of useless bullshit. Just think what problems could've been solved with all that wasted energy--- hell y'all coulda invented a 100 mpg car by now!
If you don't like a particular act, say so and keep it moving. But don't speak for entire groups of people that your own sampling is a very minute part of. When you say most GGs do like this or don't like that-- did you do some kind of study?
The facts are that dicks like to be stimulated. Dicks don't care how they are stimulated. Dicks can't differentiate between ass and pussy. If left to it's own devices, a dick will enter every available orifice. It is your brain that keeps it out of asses.
The fact also is that GGs and TSes and fags and straight men like anal stimulation. That doesn't mean all do. All people don't do anything. Most people who don't like anal sex have never really tried anal sex because it is initially very painful. But the anus doesn't hurt, the sphincter hurts. That goes away. Females like the vibration, guys get prostate stimulation. A guy or TS will never cum harder than he does from anal stimulation. That is a fact.
Now going back to page 1, of course guys like the "duke chute" because they like to fuck, and that's the available orifice a pre-op is outfitted with. I myself have always had an anal fetish, sticking my finger in it while I fucked pussy (btw, the majority of GGs I dated asked to be fucked in the ass, and I know girls who fucked in their asses for years to preserve their virginity).
You can't say anal sex is overrated if you can't first state how it is rated, and I don't recall ANYONE ever saying that. Just say it's not for you.

Well said. Well, except for the 'overrated' part since at least in this forum it's very highly rated. But still, great post. Thank you. :)

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

OK fine. I buy that. So are you volunteering to be my partner? lol :peanutbutter

~BB~

[timebomb]

First of all, I didn't call her names until she started it. It's not my style. As you can see I am perfectly capable of articulating my opinion without insults. If I insult someone it's not because I can't find the right words to say something, it's because my words aren't even getting through enough for the other party to give them even cursory consideration.

I don't think you are perfectly capable. I was simply pointing out her original statement. But I will let you have the last word since that's what it seems like your interested in having.

[BellaBellucci]

First of all, I didn't call her names until she started it. It's not my style. As you can see I am perfectly capable of articulating my opinion without insults. If I insult someone it's not because I can't find the right words to say something, it's because my words aren't even getting through enough for the other party to give them even cursory consideration.

I don't think you are perfectly capable. I was simply pointing out her original statement. But I will let you have the last word since that's what it seems like your interested in having.

Now I'm inarticulate? Now THAT is something I've never been called. You've got a lot of nerve. Sometimes I like that. Now is not one of those times.

Somehow I keep forgetting:
:trolls

My apologies.

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

Many trannies feel that they were "born" the day they completely discarded their birth gender. I see all the sex I had before being FT as experimentation anyway.

As for anal sex, I completely agree. There are so many variables that can make it better or worse. I'm naturally tight, but I still very much enjoy bottoming. Many times switching from doggie to missionary or vice versa can make a big difference if it's too painful. The curve of a cock, the size, and the way it points all have an enormous bearing on what you'll experience as a bottom.

[rockabilly]

I read the title of this thread ... " part 2 " !? Is the OP making a pun ... bathroom code? Or is there a part 1 buried in the annals (yeah clever huh) of HA threads? :lol:

[jjhill]

wow how ignorant...

Mods can we do an IP check pls.?




You want to talk about Bellucci's looks? That's out of line, your ugly as shit and you look like an old chinese man with a wig. Sorry stupid. Don't try to talk on things you know nothing about, ignorant boy.



Oh really? That's funny, considering you don't even got a face to show and is cowardly hiding behind the cloak of anonymity! Um, So lemme guess..I bet you're MANICA FOXXX hiding behind this new ha id of yours huh? You know what gives you away? It's the same old rant you spew on me every time! Time to get creative FATTY! :lol:

So now that we got that cleared up..Why don't you tickle your throat and vomit, you BIG FAT BEAST!

Aren't you having your Saturday special? You should be busy or maybe NOT!! lol


SPECIAL RATE FOR TS MONICA FOXX - FRIDAY & SATURDAY ONLY

$100/ half hour

I normally DO NOT stray below $250 for my time but tonight and tommorow I am making a rare exception. THIS IS ONLY FOR TODAY AND TOMMOROW. If you call me after Saturday and ask for the special rate expect to be hung up on instantly!!

Call me anytime... 410.262.4576

www.Monicas2Hot.com

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/112/l_e1ae85e17afa4aebb0b662d1e579fcc3.jpg

~Kisses.

HTG

My boy Beans!!!! One of the best of all times

[Steve-Oh]

Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? xoxo Mandy

Mandy, you make my day in this otherwise derailed, inane thread!
:lol:
:P
:lol:
:twisted:

[tsmandy]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

OK fine. I buy that. So are you volunteering to be my partner? lol :peanutbutter

~BB~

You never know. Stranger things have happened.
I would highly recommend practicing with a finger or a small toy first (the Aneros is nice) moving on to small butt-plugs while you jerk off. Then when you are used to the sensation, and used to relaxing and enjoying the sensation, then I would recommend having other people try and fuck you.

When I fuck someone new I always ask how they like to be fucked, and this is especially true when it comes to anal sex. Good sex always starts with good communication. If you don't know very well what feels good then it is going to be much more difficult for any potential partner to fuck you good and proper.

[tsmandy]

Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? xoxo Mandy

Mandy, you make my day in this otherwise derailed, inane thread!
:lol:
:P
:lol:
:twisted:

Always glad to help :)

[rockabilly]

Mandy gives great advice , she should write a book. :)

[tsmandy]

Many trannies feel that they were "born" the day they completely discarded their birth gender. I see all the sex I had before being FT as experimentation anyway.

As for anal sex, I completely agree. There are so many variables that can make it better or worse. I'm naturally tight, but I still very much enjoy bottoming. Many times switching from doggie to missionary or vice versa can make a big difference if it's too painful. The curve of a cock, the size, and the way it points all have an enormous bearing on what you'll experience as a bottom.

Often times for me I will switch to being on top, and that helps because I can control the depth of penetration until my muscles relax, and it gives me control (which I like).

[BellaBellucci]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

OK fine. I buy that. So are you volunteering to be my partner? lol :peanutbutter

~BB~

You never know. Stranger things have happened.
I would highly recommend practicing with a finger or a small toy first (the Aneros is nice) moving on to small butt-plugs while you jerk off. Then when you are used to the sensation, and used to relaxing and enjoying the sensation, then I would recommend having other people try and fuck you.

When I fuck someone new I always ask how they like to be fucked, and this is especially true when it comes to anal sex. Good sex always starts with good communication. If you don't know very well what feels good then it is going to be much more difficult for any potential partner to fuck you good and proper.

You definitely are a special girl. :)

~BB~

[tsmandy]

With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

Bella I interpreted Hara's comment in a different way. I thought Hara was speaking about how men perceive sex with TS. Which I think is highly accurate. Most men assume that TS get fucked in the ass because we don't have a pussy. That is just the reality of how guys think. That is a given to most guys. I didn't think Hara was saying it was a given for all TS, just that was how most guys perceive us.

You are still new here, and Hara has posted stories about her life, sexuality, and opinions for a long time. Having read alot of her posts over the years I interpreted her comments in a very different manner. I have enjoyed the contribution you have made here recently, and would hate to see you alienated so quickly.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

That's essentially the same thing and you know it. <snip>

Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah

~BB~

Your 'interpretention' is your interpretetion not mine. YOU took my words and twisted it around (word play) to benefit and satisfy your own hidden agenda! There is really nothing more to it! Everybody here could see what a conniving, bitter faggot/latent tranny you really are!

YOU ARE A PATHETIC, MIDDLE AGED, POOR EXCUSE OF A TRANSEXUAL!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

Bella I interpreted Hara's comment in a different way. I thought Hara was speaking about how men perceive sex with TS. Which I think is highly accurate. Most men assume that TS get fucked in the ass because we don't have a pussy. That is just the reality of how guys think. That is a given to most guys. I didn't think Hara was saying it was a given for all TS, just that was how most guys perceive us.

You are still new here, and Hara has posted stories about her life, sexuality, and opinions for a long time. Having read alot of her posts over the years I interpreted her comments in a very different manner. I have enjoyed the contribution you have made here recently, and would hate to see you alienated so quickly.

Thanks Mandy! :P It IS exactly what I mean - No more, no less! I've always been an open book. I don't hate nor deny things I like and don't like. But BB assuming things her own lil way and throwing her assumptions and make them my words are never right!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

Bella I interpreted Hara's comment in a different way. I thought Hara was speaking about how men perceive sex with TS. Which I think is highly accurate. Most men assume that TS get fucked in the ass because we don't have a pussy. That is just the reality of how guys think. That is a given to most guys. I didn't think Hara was saying it was a given for all TS, just that was how most guys perceive us.

You are still new here, and Hara has posted stories about her life, sexuality, and opinions for a long time. Having read alot of her posts over the years I interpreted her comments in a very different manner. I have enjoyed the contribution you have made here recently, and would hate to see you alienated so quickly.

And that's legitimate, but that's not all she said. Instead she spent 20 pages defending it, digging the hole deeper, and calling girls men because they don't like to bottom as much as she apparently does. I never argued that men don't see it that way, I argued that they probably shouldn't, ESPECIALLY when she also complained about a 'chauvinist' within the same thread. Most people think trannies are 'easy' and chauvinists feel the same way about GG's. To me, it's a bit demeaning.

And alienated? Who me? Why whatever gave you THAT idea? It's not like a woman like me doesn't enjoy having her opinion belittled into oblivion from time to time, ya know? It's all good. Respect is overrated anyway. ;)

Honestly, I don't want to be where I'm not welcome so we'll see how things go from here on in.

~BB~

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

Bella I interpreted Hara's comment in a different way. I thought Hara was speaking about how men perceive sex with TS. Which I think is highly accurate. Most men assume that TS get fucked in the ass because we don't have a pussy. That is just the reality of how guys think. That is a given to most guys. I didn't think Hara was saying it was a given for all TS, just that was how most guys perceive us.

You are still new here, and Hara has posted stories about her life, sexuality, and opinions for a long time. Having read alot of her posts over the years I interpreted her comments in a very different manner. I have enjoyed the contribution you have made here recently, and would hate to see you alienated so quickly. FINALLY someone who can speak logically and with the ability to keep their emotions in check. :claps

[BellaBellucci]

That's essentially the same thing and you know it. <snip>

Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah

~BB~

Your 'interpretention' is your interpretetion not mine. YOU took my words and twisted it around (word play) to benefit and satisfy your own hidden agenda! There is really nothing more to it! Everybody here could see what a conniving, bitter faggot/latent tranny you really are!

YOU ARE A PATHETIC, MIDDLE AGED, POOR EXCUSE OF A TRANSEXUAL!

~Kisses.

HTG

You know. Maybe if you were a TENTH as articulate as Mandy or me you'd be able to make your point without the continued and unnecessary name calling.

And for the last time I am NOT middle-aged. You clearly have issues involving your own age and maturity. Find someone else to project them onto.

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Often times for me I will switch to being on top, and that helps because I can control the depth of penetration until my muscles relax, and it gives me control (which I like).Yep, I agree. It's about leverage, shifting body weight, gravity, etc; basically, it's physics.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

Bella I interpreted Hara's comment in a different way. I thought Hara was speaking about how men perceive sex with TS. Which I think is highly accurate. Most men assume that TS get fucked in the ass because we don't have a pussy. That is just the reality of how guys think. That is a given to most guys. I didn't think Hara was saying it was a given for all TS, just that was how most guys perceive us.

You are still new here, and Hara has posted stories about her life, sexuality, and opinions for a long time. Having read alot of her posts over the years I interpreted her comments in a very different manner. I have enjoyed the contribution you have made here recently, and would hate to see you alienated so quickly.

And that's legitimate, but that's not all she said. Instead she spent 20 pages defending it, digging the hole deeper, and calling girls men because they don't like to bottom as much as she apparently does. I never argued that men don't see it that way, I argued that they probably shouldn't, ESPECIALLY when she also complained about a 'chauvinist' within the same thread. Most people think trannies are 'easy' and chauvinists feel the same way about GG's. To me, it's a bit demeaning.

And alienated? Who me? Why whatever gave you THAT idea? It's not like a woman like me doesn't enjoy having her opinion belittled into oblivion from time to time, ya know? It's all good. Respect is overrated anyway. ;)

Honestly, I don't want to be where I'm not welcome so we'll see how things go from here on in.

~BB~

LIEEESSSSSSS! I defended the statement I made on page one - that with tg's guys "assume' they're getting ass because tg's don't have any vagina!


Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

Enough with your word twisting! What part of it YOU did not understand?? Jesus!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

Bella I interpreted Hara's comment in a different way. I thought Hara was speaking about how men perceive sex with TS. Which I think is highly accurate. Most men assume that TS get fucked in the ass because we don't have a pussy. That is just the reality of how guys think. That is a given to most guys. I didn't think Hara was saying it was a given for all TS, just that was how most guys perceive us.

You are still new here, and Hara has posted stories about her life, sexuality, and opinions for a long time. Having read alot of her posts over the years I interpreted her comments in a very different manner. I have enjoyed the contribution you have made here recently, and would hate to see you alienated so quickly.

And that's legitimate, but that's not all she said. Instead she spent 20 pages defending it, digging the hole deeper, and calling girls men because they don't like to bottom as much as she apparently does. I never argued that men don't see it that way, I argued that they probably shouldn't, ESPECIALLY when she also complained about a 'chauvinist' within the same thread. Most people think trannies are 'easy' and chauvinists feel the same way about GG's. To me, it's a bit demeaning.

And alienated? Who me? Why whatever gave you THAT idea? It's not like a woman like me doesn't enjoy having her opinion belittled into oblivion from time to time, ya know? It's all good. Respect is overrated anyway. ;)

Honestly, I don't want to be where I'm not welcome so we'll see how things go from here on in.

~BB~

LIEEESSSSSSS! I defended the statement I made on page one - that with tg's guys "assume' they're getting ass because tg's don't have any vagina!


Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear? :lol:

Enough with your word twisting! What part of it YOU did not understand?? Jesus!

~Kisses.

HTG

HELL-OOOO.

That's not the issue. The issues are the multiple statements that you've made stating that 'women do not top.' I've already quoted some of them here and they, along with your actual CALLING me a man prove that you feel that only bottoms can be TS. You're busted. Move on.

~BB~

[rockabilly]

Often times for me I will switch to being on top, and that helps because I can control the depth of penetration until my muscles relax, and it gives me control (which I like).Yep, I agree. It's about leverage, shifting body weight, gravity, etc; basically, it's physics.
One girl said you need chemistry, another said it's all biology, and now Nicole says it's physics! Sounds like my senior class schedule all it needs now is drama ... oh wait it does

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

That's essentially the same thing and you know it. <snip>

Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah

~BB~

Your 'interpretention' is your interpretetion not mine. YOU took my words and twisted it around (word play) to benefit and satisfy your own hidden agenda! There is really nothing more to it! Everybody here could see what a conniving, bitter faggot/latent tranny you really are!

YOU ARE A PATHETIC, MIDDLE AGED, POOR EXCUSE OF A TRANSEXUAL!

~Kisses.

HTG

You know. Maybe if you were a TENTH as articulate as Mandy or me you'd be able to make your point without the continued and unnecessary name calling.

And for the last time I am NOT middle-aged. You clearly have issues involving your own age and maturity. Find someone else to project them onto.

~BB~

Maybe I'm NOT as articulate..sorry English is actually a 2nd language to me. So there you have it. Celebrate the fact that YOU'RE way better than me in that regards. However though I may NOT be as articulate as YOU, alot of people on here like Mandy etc. perfectly understood what I said and mean. You're obviously harboring ILL-Feelings over your "Natural vs. Photoshop picture thread to come down on me so forcefully that even in times you know what I mean you twist it and make it suitable and befitting to serve your revenge! I am not stupid, and so are alot of people on this site!

MODS when do we get to BAN this bitch? When did you signed up again? you've been here what? 24 days? Who are you and what type of an image are you trying to project for the rest of us? The SCARY OVER THE HILL TRANNY? Really YOUR a JOKE!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

That's essentially the same thing and you know it. <snip>

Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah

~BB~

Your 'interpretention' is your interpretetion not mine. YOU took my words and twisted it around (word play) to benefit and satisfy your own hidden agenda! There is really nothing more to it! Everybody here could see what a conniving, bitter faggot/latent tranny you really are!

YOU ARE A PATHETIC, MIDDLE AGED, POOR EXCUSE OF A TRANSEXUAL!

~Kisses.

HTG

You know. Maybe if you were a TENTH as articulate as Mandy or me you'd be able to make your point without the continued and unnecessary name calling.

And for the last time I am NOT middle-aged. You clearly have issues involving your own age and maturity. Find someone else to project them onto.

~BB~

Maybe I'm NOT as articulate..sorry English is actually a 2nd language to me. So there you have it. Celebrate the fact that YOU'RE way better than me in that regards. However though I may NOT be as articulate as YOU, alot of people on here like Mandy etc. perfectly understood what I said and mean. You're obviously harboring ILL-Feelings over your "Natural vs. Photoshop picture thread to come down on me so forcefully that even in times you know what I mean you twist it and make it suitable and befitting to serve your revenge! I am not stupid, and so are alot of people on this site!

MODS when do we get to BAN this bitch? When did you signed up again? Who are you and what type of an image are you trying to project for the rest of us? The SCARY OVER THE HILL TRANNY? Really YOUR a JOKE!

~Kisses.

HTG

I'm still dying to know what your obsession with the Photoshop thread is. I had no ulterior motive and nobody in mind when I created it. In fact, the first post outlines some of the pros and cons of both airbrushing and natural photos. Either you know me somehow and this is personal for you or you are EXTREMELY insecure about your own most likely airbrushed photos.

Why so defensive over a thread that has nothing to do with you or really anything else for that matter? Why are you so paranoid?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Um because honestly, anyone with a brain can see through your crap because you took my comments on that thread to heart. When all I'm saying is who does not enhance their pics these days? Insinuating your pics were way better than others or that you looked better than say JP or Allanah or any other girl that enhances their image is BULLSHIT and you know it. Which brought you here with me as your bullseye! Pleaseeee...

You maybe smart (and articulate) but you're not that smart! People could see through your lies..

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Um because honestly, anyone with a brain can see through your crap because you took my comments on that thread to heart. When all I'm saying is who does not enhance their pics these days? Insinuating your pics were way better than others or that you looked better than say JP or Allanah or any other girl that enhances their image is BULLSHIT and you know it. Which brought you here with me as your bullseye! Pleaseeee...

You maybe smart (and articulate) but you're not that smart! People could see through your lies..

~Kisses.

HTG

I honestly have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Believe that. It was just a thread. Take a pill.

~BB~

[AmericanDream]

I just want to say sorry for any mean words I said to you Hara. Afterall, I can't expect to find the smartest people on internet forums.

Just know that Asian culture and American culture are VERY FAR APART and most of the members here are American. So if you don't know much about their culture, then you shouldn't try to speak on it.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Um because honestly, anyone with a brain can see through your crap because you took my comments on that thread to heart. When all I'm saying is who does not enhance their pics these days? Insinuating your pics were way better than others or that you looked better than say JP or Allanah or any other girl that enhances their image is BULLSHIT and you know it. Which brought you here with me as your bullseye! Pleaseeee...

You maybe smart (and articulate) but you're not that smart! People could see through your lies..

~Kisses.

HTG

I honestly have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Believe that. It was just a thread. Take a pill.

~BB~

Of course, Denial is but a river in Egypt!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Um because honestly, anyone with a brain can see through your crap because you took my comments on that thread to heart. When all I'm saying is who does not enhance their pics these days? Insinuating your pics were way better than others or that you looked better than say JP or Allanah or any other girl that enhances their image is BULLSHIT and you know it. Which brought you here with me as your bullseye! Pleaseeee...

You maybe smart (and articulate) but you're not that smart! People could see through your lies..

~Kisses.

HTG

I honestly have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Believe that. It was just a thread. Take a pill.

~BB~

Of course, Denial is but a river in Egypt!

~Kisses.

HTG

FYI: I just went back to the thread. I said NOTHING after the first post so I don't know how I insinuated ANYTHING, much less anything about you. If anything, you sort of tried to hijack the thread. So again: what is your problem with me?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I just want to say sorry for any mean words I said to you Hara. Afterall, I can't expect to find the smartest people on internet forums.


And adding the one in bold makes everything better nor your apology authentic? Count your days!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

FYI: I just went back to the thread. I said NOTHING after the first post so I don't know how I insinuated ANYTHING, much less anything about you. If anything, you sort of tried to hijack the thread. So again: what is your problem with me?

~BB~

I never really had any problems with you. But you seem full of yourself. So why don't you check yourself out and see how you're coming across to folks on here for one! After all, you've only been here 24 days. Maybe that would help put things in perspective for you.

~Kisses.

HTG

[AmericanDream]

Von, Two, Tree...

I'm really sorry Hara, your comments were ignorant though that's all I'm saying.

Seriously I'm sorry for any bad things I had to say, not for saying your comments were ignorant. I don't want any hot water between us and this isn't about avoiding a suspension or whatever either. I'm a mature man and I'll say sorry when I am, you don't need to accept it, I just had to say it. Sorry.

[BellaBellucci]

FYI: I just went back to the thread. I said NOTHING after the first post so I don't know how I insinuated ANYTHING, much less anything about you. If anything, you sort of tried to hijack the thread. So again: what is your problem with me?

~BB~

I never really had any problems with you. But you seem full of yourself. So why don't you check yourself out and see how you're coming across to folks on here for one! After all, you've only been here 24 days. Maybe that would help put things in perspective for you.

~Kisses.

HTG

Well thank you for the unsolicited input but you still haven't explained your obsession with the thread.

As far as how I come across, well, we each started our journey so that we could be ourselves. I don't think I'm full of myself but if you do or anyone else does (and they haven't spoken up), then oh well. One thing I've learned throughout transition is that you can't BE anybody but yourself. I can't apologize for that.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Von, Two, Tree...

I'm really sorry Hara, your comments were ignorant though that's all I'm saying.

Seriously I'm sorry for any bad things I had to say, not for saying your comments were ignorant. I don't want any hot water between us though and this isn't about avoiding a suspension or whatever either. I'm a mature man and I'll say sorry when I am, you don't need to accept it, I just had to say it.
So sorry.

Well that's YOUR take on it. However, 23 pages and only 2 of you saying that isn't a general consensus of the public.

:roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Von, Two, Tree...

I'm really sorry Hara, your comments were ignorant though that's all I'm saying.

Seriously I'm sorry for any bad things I had to say, not for saying your comments were ignorant. I don't want any hot water between us though and this isn't about avoiding a suspension or whatever either. I'm a mature man and I'll say sorry when I am, you don't need to accept it, I just had to say it.
So sorry.

Well that's YOUR take on it. However, 23 pages and only 2 of you saying that isn't a general consensus of the public.

:roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

That's STILL not what *I* said. I never argued about a man's tastes, but w/e.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hey just wanted to say sorry for what I said, not about your comments being ignorant though because they were. You made it as if post-op wasn't TG's and other things...whatever I don't want to argue about that.

I'm just saying sorry :)

And when did I even mentioned post op? or that post-ops are not tg's? Where? Point me to that direction because I never once mentioned it in all 23 pages!

Why don't you learn to read before you type stupid things?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Hey just wanted to say sorry for what I said, not about your comments being ignorant though because they were. You made it as if post-op wasn't TG's and other things...whatever I don't want to argue about that.

I'm just saying sorry :)

And when did I even mentioned post op? or that post-ops are not tg's? Where? Point me to that direction because I never once mentioned it in all 23 pages!

Why don't you learn to read before you type stupid things?

~Kisses.

HTG

Why don't you take you own advice? You still haven't answered my question: why are you so paranoid about me?

~BB~

[sucka4chix]

STOP IT!!!!!!

Sorry, just had to say that.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Why don't you take you own advice? You still haven't answered my question: why are you so paranoid about me?

~BB~

Me paranoid of you? I am not..You're just like an annoying, recurring itch to me that wouldn't go away! :roll:

Why don't you admit about your hidden agenda with me?

~Kisses.

HTG

[AmericanDream]

Yea. Wtf is duke chutes anyway?

It sounds like the name of a cartoon character superhero or something.

[BellaBellucci]

Why don't you take you own advice? You still haven't answered my question: why are you so paranoid about me?

~BB~

Me paranoid of you? I am not..You're just like an annoying, recurring itch to me that wouldn't go away! :roll:

Why don't you admit about your hidden agenda with me?

~Kisses.

HTG

Allow me to rephrase what you just said:

'I'm not paranoid but you have a hidden agenda with me.'

Bitch! I don't even KNOW you and I really don't want to! How can I have an agenda against you?! You need serious professional help. Please get some.

~BB~

[rockabilly]

Yea. Wtf is duke chutes anyway?

It sounds like the name of a cartoon character superhero or something.

That was the name of that guy in GI-JOE right ?

[rockabilly]

Yea. Wtf is duke chutes anyway?

It sounds like the name of a cartoon character superhero or something.

That was the name of that guy in GI-JOE right ?

[AmericanDream]

lol yep!! I was thinking something like a boys action figure or some cartoon, GI JOE! lmao duke chutes

[giovanni_hotel]

Yea. Wtf is duke chutes anyway?

It sounds like the name of a cartoon character superhero or something.

:lol:

Duke Chutes will be a new password for me some day!!

Bella and Hara, wish you both could find the love!

Still two of my fave TGs, and the fact that you DON'T do anal Bella makes me fantasize all the more of introducing you to the mind-blowing ecstacy of Greek love!! 8)

[tsbrenda]

I OFFERED HER THE BACKPACK


I OFFERED HER THE BACKPACK

http://www.teenslikeitbigporn.com/images/zenia-teen02.jpg

I OFFERED HER THE BACKPACK


I OFFERED HER THE BACKPACK

[b]FOR YOU ANIMAL LOVERS/PETA

http://img.stern.de/_content/58/02/580259/panda500_500.jpg

I OFFERED HER THE BACKPACK


I OFFERED HER THE BACKPACK

http://www.peliculasxsms.com/previews/0165hb-1-6.jpg

[BellaBellucci]

OMG I LOVE the pandas! SO CUTE!

~BB~

[rockabilly]

I know what this is ... Brenda is a spy for COBRA !! Duke Chutes ... they plan to shoot Duke! Backpack ... hmmm an attack on a school field trip to see the pandas!! Brenda how diabolical , you evil genius. The anal sex pics are a distraction. :lol:

[2009AD]

You are one weird dude.


I OFFERED HER THE BACKPACK

[Curtnj_bi]

Just out of curiosity Hara, how many guys get into trannys then move onto men?

I went from guy to trannys! Then again, I just sample everything, guys, girls and trannys. I just want to have fun.

[Nicole Dupre]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*


Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:


I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:


Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html


Very shady, and WAY out of line.

[Nicole Dupre]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*


Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:


I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:


Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html


Very shady, and WAY out of line.

[Nicole Dupre]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*


Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:


I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:


Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html

~Kisses.

HTGShade, and WAY out of line.

[Nicole Dupre]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*


Sounds like this is WAAAY more your problem than mine and you imply that I'm less of a woman because I don't want to have sex in a way I find painful and uncomfortable. If you want to have sex like the opposite sex then HAVE SRS. Duh. This has to be your most ridiculous argument yet.

Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:


I'm sorry, but your logic on the subject is probably the most flawed and most misogynist I've ever heard. You ARE TS, right? Don't be a cum dumpster and then on top of it defend those who make you feel that way AND THEN proselytize to the rest of us that yours is the ONLY way. Have some self worth.

Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


It's clear to me that the ONLY way you validate you femininity is with 'long hair' and getting fucked. Those who disagree with you are not 'as TS' as you. Well Queenie, good luck with that when you're older and undesirable and have no other self-worth.

Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:


Topping is a gay thing? Really? Actually, for me it was because I was previously a straight man and I didn't like things inserted into my ass, so there is certainly nothing 'gay' about topping unless I was already gay to begin with. IF I top it's because I intend to use the genitalia that nature gave me and while I prefer it be inverted (SRS), it doesn't define me as a person and I've even tried not using it... and all I've ended up with was sexual frustration - not physical - emotional. I missed the intimacy. Nature may have given me the wrong part but until it's gone I'll damn well going to use it and that settles it.

Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html

~Kisses.

HTGShade, and way out of line.

[Nicole Dupre]

I don't get my satisfaction from topping a man, and true to your other arguments I never said I did. I get it from emotional connection, chemistry, intellectual stimulation, oral, and BDSM. And just because I don't give up ass doesn't mean I want to fuck ass either. Again, YOUR assumption.

:roll: *CoughFaggortyCough*



Yawns! I think your problem with me is the fact that I burst your bubble on your "Natural vs Photoshopped" thread. I mean wtf were you going on abouts? It's like you were 'implying' your natural state or pics were better than say Kelly Shores or any other tgirl for that reason who has photoshop-enhanced their photographs? Way to feed your low self esteem huh neo trannie? :lol:



Who's a cum dumpster? You assume way too much yet you don't even know me. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am starving for validation because I am NOT! I've lived as a ts LONGER than you and have NEVER had any self esteem issues like you or some tg's you know. So again, I'm sorry to disappoint you. You wish I was but then again YOU"RE WRONG!


Lmao What a bunch crock of shit! FAILED!! What is clear to me is the fact that being a latent tranny convert yourself you have no clue how tranny life works. How many years have you been a tranny? And how many years have you been a man? I bet the answer to that is as good evidence as your idiotic post Ms Smarty pants! :lol:



Ah yes! Of course now the truth comes out. Anything you previously said is DISMISSED because first of all YOU are NOT really a real and true transexual but more like a bi/gay man who transitioned to be a transexual. REAL TRANSEXUALS are born transgenders with gender dysphoria - that don't happen late in life! So there Bella chew it up girl! This perfectly and clearly explains EVERYTHING!

The difference between Primary and secondary transexual:

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/primary.html

~Kisses.

HTGShade, and way out of line.

[buckjohnson]

hitting the duke chutes is almost always a power grab. At home, on the stroll, or in prison.