I've Figured Out WHAT/WHO The REAL Devil Is.

[Nautica]

Money.

[Quiet Reflections]

The Devil Is in The Details

[Dirky]

Here's the real devil and I have his pic as proof.

http://www.mortie.net/journal/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/abe-vigoda.jpg

[CannibalMan]

How can paper be the devil?

[The Hierophant]

How can Abe Vigoda be the devil?

[Silcc69]

It really is.

[El Nino]

How can paper be the devil?

It's the inherent "intrinsic value" of money, which she is referring to. And I agree with this post but would like to add greed to the list

[raybbaby]

Yeah, but no, not really. Money is a necessary means of exchange for the worth of labor and services for goods when those 2 things can't be directly traded. That is all.

[UirCelLanAd]

"So you think that money is the root of all evil? Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?" (Rand)

Then again who I am to post I believe that more harm has been done throughout history in the name of altruism than has ever been done in the name of greed.

[BiancaLover]

I could use more evil then.

[Nautica]

Dirky, who's that?

[rockabilly]

In this economy i see a resurgence of the barter system.

[bibtmbill]

I have to disagree on this one. My belief is that Sarah Palin is indeed the devil.

[2009AD]

Dirky, who's that?

His name is Abel Vigoda III. He heads the International Satanic Alliance. The group promotes the seven deadly sins and encourages war and civil strife throughout the world. They are very secretive.

[raybbaby]

Ronald Wilson Reagan

[rockabilly]

I thought W was the devil . :shrug:

[alyssats]

Dirky, who's that?

His name is Abel Vigoda III. He heads the International Satanic Alliance. The group promotes the seven deadly sins and encourages war and civil strife throughout the world. They are very secretive.

ohhh my goshhh scary :|

[alyssats]

Why is it i cant see any info of Abel Vigoda by googling? Im scared :(

[Nautica]

How'd they get this 'secretive' person's photo?

[dgs925]

Abe Vigoda is nothing to worry about, he was killed at the end of the first movie!

[AmericanDream]

Abe aka Tessio sleeps with the fishes.

search under his other name Tessio.

[yodajazz]

How can paper be the devil?

It's the inherent "intrinsic value" of money, which she is referring to. And I agree with this post but would like to add greed to the list

The actual saying is; “The love of money is the root of all evil”. Money is not bad. What is bad, is wanting money so much, that a person does not care who they hurt, in order to get it. In short, it is greed.

Being wealthy is not evil. Some people get wealthy by giving people a valuable service. An example would be a entertainer who makes a product such as a movie that millions of people enjoy. Some wealthy people fund charities, or contribute to the good of many others. But the recent financial meltdown was the by-product of greed. They created complex financial instruments for the sole purpose of making more money, and even resorted promoting risky loans, then hiding them among other sounder ones.

Banks used to encourage people to be thrifty with their money, and that in turn help society to function with the excess capitol. But they they found out they could make more money with fees, and started to look for easier ways to penalize people. Bank fees to not produce any tangible goods, they just transfer money to banks. This leaves person in worse shape and able to contibute less to others. Now everyone is hurting but a few.

By-passing your community to send jobs overseas is fueled by greed, in that they put profits over assisting their communities, even though it helps people overseas. Now people can’t afford to buy home homes, cars, and so many other things.

So the greed in each of us is the devil. The one that says get yours and don’t care what happens to anyone else. And anything can be used for good or evil purposes, including money. This was the Bible story about the “Garden of Eden”. The ‘devil’ gave Adam and Eve the ‘fruit’, to see how to use things for evil purposes. They were already good. They ate from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”. This was not an apple, it was exactly what it said.

So Adam’s descendents, saw how to take a good thing; that is, lending people money to buy homes, and use it for evil purposes; Greed. The devil made them do it. The devil inside.

[vincidog]

I was going to disagree and say "unbridled power", however I defer to Yoda's distillation.....Greed is it; as GREED is effectively behind all evil

[raybbaby]

Oh, I thought for sure it was Bill Crystal or Dick Cheney. :(

[Nicole Dupre]

Greed is built in to the human nervous system. It's a survival mechanism, to some extent, not unlike fear. Fear can cripple you. But fear can also motivate you.

[rockabilly]

And what frightens you Nicole? For me it's the fear of always being alone.

[vincidog]

Nicole....Agreed, however the distinction becomes "unbridled greed". Thus, How much does one need and when/before does acquisition become gamesmanship and a motive unto itself?

[kukm4]

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he didn't exist."

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole....Agreed, however the distinction becomes "unbridled greed". Thus, How much does one need and when/before does acquisition become gamesmanship and a motive unto itself?Right. Unbridled fear is no better. All emotions are integral, but not in the wrong doses. Fear is only healthy in the sense of "if I put my hand in the fire, etc". But if you're always worried that your house is in flames, it might as well be.

Greed is healthy, in the sense that abundance is a positive thing. Ambition is not necessarily a bad thing either. But life always puts you in situations where your moral compass is being tested.

Imo, the 'devil' is the base side of human nature. It's an antisocial personality disorder. Hell is what your damaged fellow humans might put you through if you gave them half the chance. If a wolf goes for your jugular, it's nothing personal. But when your "fellow man" does it, that's being evil.

[UirCelLanAd]

Nancy Pelosi

[Nicole Dupre]

And what frightens you Nicole? For me it's the fear of always being alone.

In all honesty, at this point, very little. lol

But I do sometimes trip that my 't' could be discovered by the wrong person in the wrong place. But I'm not letting that happen if I can help it. Because "clockable" or not, any girl with a pic on this forum is not stealth. Any TS is unfortunately the potential victim of a variety of nasty hate crimes. Look at it this way. Anything that gay people might be up against in the world; well, imagine being the victim of a vicious homophobe who considers you to be, not merely gay but, gay-squared.

[rockabilly]

I hear you , it's a terrible world. :( It's not like your hurting anyone ... you just want to be yourself.

[2009AD]

And what frightens you Nicole? For me it's the fear of always being alone.

"fear" of being alone? Sorry man, that's weak especially when you can do something about it.

Real fear is knowing something catastrophic is about to happen and realizing there's nothing you can do about it.

Passengers on a plane that's about to crash or, for example, people caught inside the WTC with no means of escape.

Listen to this poor guy pleading with the 911 operator to get help, listen to his last words. That is real fear. Nothing he could do about his situation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYZqQWfGIJg&feature=related

[rockabilly]

Accept it ... Thats what one could do. When in that situation it's natural to panic. But if you knew my life and what i went through ... being alone is not weak ...

[SarahG]

I could use more evil then.

Everyone could use more evil, the question is "how much?"

[Helvis2012]

Here's the real devil and I have his pic as proof.

http://www.mortie.net/journal/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/abe-vigoda.jpg

Dirky......fitting......like jerky.

Keep beating off. :arrow:

[Nicole Dupre]

I hear you , it's a terrible world. :( It's not like your hurting anyone ... you just want to be yourself.

Actually, it's an awesome world, from what I've seen so far. There's just a handful of jerks who persist in being douchebags. lol But I not only want to be, but I AM myself more or less. I've always been "this way"; either as a pre-transition "fag" or a "shemale".

And you're right. I want to hurt no one. Usually, the homosexuals and gender dysphoric people who want to hurt someone are the introverts and closet cases. That's the scary part. It's always the "nice guys" who wind up being the fucking whack jobs in their spare time, like Ed Gein or Jeffrery Dahmer. How often do you see a drag queen being a serial killer? Well, other than Divine. ;) lol

[phobun]

Accept it ... Thats what one could do. When in that situation it's natural to panic. But if you knew my life and what i went through ... being alone is not weak ...

Start a thread about this.

[2009AD]

Accept it ... Thats what one could do. When in that situation it's natural to panic. But if you knew my life and what i went through ... being alone is not weak ...

You have written that you would like to meet a person you can connect with. that's great. What have you done about it?

[rockabilly]

I dont think anyone wants to hear about death and abuse , it's to depressing.

[Dino Velvet]

Dude doesn't even try to hide it. I give you Miroslav Satan. That's right kids, The Prince Of Darkness is a Commie.

http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/satan_jersey.jpg

[phobun]

I dont think anyone wants to hear about death and abuse , it's to depressing.

You won't see death and abuse if you're alone, unless you die of self-abuse.

[2009AD]

I dont think anyone wants to hear about death and abuse , it's to depressing.

You think death and abuse have only touched you and your family?

Is your suffering the only thing you can talk about with someone you just met?

[rockabilly]

not cool phobun :(

[Nicole Dupre]

Wow. Rockabilly, I could see that you're lonely, but what's 'death and abuse' doing in the mix? You mean 'alone' as in 'no LTR', or as in 'nobody's there'? Are you a soldier?

[phobun]

not cool phobun :(

What, it was a joke! Trying to make levity after a depressing turn in the thread. Self-abuse is masturbation, of which I doubt anyone dies.

[rockabilly]

I talk about many other things beside my suffering AD , but fears were what i addressed and i shared mine. And now i'm done w/ that. Moving on

[phobun]

I talk about many other things beside my suffering AD , but fears were what i addressed and i shared mine. And now i'm done w/ that. Moving on

What is AD?

[rockabilly]

AD as in 2009AD it was a reply to them. Sorry i guess i shouldve quoted them . I met a girl here and she knows all about my "baggage" i really have feelings for her ... love. She is amazing and makes me smile everyday. :)

[phobun]

AD as in 2009AD it was a reply to them. Sorry i guess i shouldve quoted them . I met a girl here and she knows all about my "baggage" i really have feelings for her ... love. She is amazing and makes me smile everyday. :)

Does she feel and the same, and does she know that you like chicks with dicks?

[rockabilly]

Half and Half ... It's complicated but nice. :)

[phobun]

Half and Half ... It's complicated but nice. :)

A half and half?.. who, the girl you're like?

[rockabilly]

No half about the feelings ... but i dont want to jinx anything so i will say no more. Goodnight peeps. :)

[eclipsemint]

Abe Vigoda the devil...that's hilarious!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_vigoda
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001820/


It's not money which is the root of evil, it's the LOVE of money which LEADS TO all kinds of evil, especially if you are not content with the money you already have. (1 Titus 6:10)

The verse is not a warning about being rich. Some of the richest people in history are mentioned in the bible - Abraham, King Solomon etc.

Solomon, the richest king of his time wrote: Whoever loves money never has money enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income. This too is meaningless. Ecclesiastes 5:10

Not being satisfied can lead you into all kinds of temptations to do evil.

[2009AD]

I met a girl here and she knows all about my "baggage" i really have feelings for her ... love. She is amazing and makes me smile everyday. :)

Sigh. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I'd be very skeptical about falling in "love" with anyone on a porn board.

[techi]

Power, extreme wealth/money is a close approximate.

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
- Lord Acton

The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves
- William Shakespeare

[Nautica]

AD as in 2009AD it was a reply to them. Sorry i guess i shouldve quoted them . I met a girl here and she knows all about my "baggage" i really have feelings for her ... love. She is amazing and makes me smile everyday. :)


Um.. If you met her here and you're still typing you're 'alone', that's not a good thing. She may feel she's doing nothing for you. By the way, how 'evil' have you been to her? $$$$$$

[phobun]

I met a girl here and she knows all about my "baggage" i really have feelings for her ... love. She is amazing and makes me smile everyday. :)

Sigh. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I'd be very skeptical about falling in "love" with anyone on a porn board.

Whoa, I thought he meant "here" as in South Carolina. If he means "here" as on THIS BOARD, oh god man.

[Nautica]

Oh, LOL! LOL! I didn't, even, think of the South Carolina part. Haha!! Maybe that's it.

[JayR80]

Depends how you get the money and what you do with it. Many good causes from money but many bad ones too!

[JayR80]

Money.

Never mind the devil....I`ve figured out where heaven is....Nauticas gorgeous face & breasts. Stunning. :kiss: