help please,first timer dating a transexual?

[dlon]

Hello, new here,

any way to tell if someone you are dating is a post op if they don't admit to it?

I'm about to go out with a very striking girl, almost everyone who has seen her thinks two things, A) very attractive B) born a man

I asked her and she said she was all woman, she's pretty much implied sex on the first date

I'm a straight guy so I'm hoping she's all woman but after seeing some videos and stuff here I could do the pre op thing but definetly not post op

might sound wierd, but hey, that's me

my apologies to anyone if my lingo is incorrect or offensive in any way, I'm learning as I go here,

thanks

[Westheangelino]

Are you worried that she's post op or that you might like it? ~_^

[rockabilly]

Are you happy w/ her? Would your feelings change if she was post-op?

[dlon]

yeah i'm worried she's post op, I don't want that

again, for my tastes

woman=good
pre op=good
post op-not interested

[rockabilly]

Thats pretty peculiar. :? Why is post-op no good , i mean other than your tastes?

[dlon]

can't really say, just not my thing

so is there a way to tell?

[tsslutboy]

woman=good
pre op=good
post op=good cuz they r postop for a reason. they always felt like a girl on the inside once post op they r the pussy havin girl they were born to be or always wanted to be.idk i could be wrong

If u cant tell its all good.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Post Ops are hot, your loss

dude treat her like you'd treat anyone else you were dating.........

bottomline

[rockabilly]

Yeah , dont sweat the details. Are you concerned you might injure her hand sculpted perfect pussy w/ rough sex? Just accept you have a beautiful woman, some of us dont.

[dlon]

just my preferance, and i'll treat her well regardless, just not interested in dating a post op

I'll tell you one thing, she's not in the scene so to speak so if it doesn't work out, i'll let her know about this board

she's asian and lovely

[MacShreach]

I asked her and she said she was all woman, she's pretty much implied sex on the first date

I'm a straight guy so I'm hoping she's all woman but after seeing some videos and stuff here I could do the pre op thing but definetly not post op

might sound wierd, but hey, that's me



Moron.

[dlon]

don't hate

[MacShreach]

don't hate

GTF, bollockbrains. You've just said you can't tell the difference, but you'll happily have sex with a GG or a pre-op, but not a post-op?

Moron.

Sorry, fucking moron.

[Quiet Reflections]

Post Ops are hot, your loss

dude treat her like you'd treat anyone else you were dating.........

bottomline
+1

[saifan]

OK, I will give a serious answer here. I was with a post-op recently. The work was very well done and she was upfront with me that she was post-op. At first I didn't believe her.

Things that convinced me: Slight scars on either side of her vagina. There was no "female" smell.

BTW the sex was amazing.

[droog]

dude

i don't get your post........

if she's cool..
if the two of you are getting along well together..
if she's giving you a chance..

then wtf is your problem? go for it dude, or you'll regret it later i'm sure.

[dlon]

why do I have a problem because I have preferances?

if i want a vagina, I'll grab a girl, if I want to try something different, i'll go pre op, I have no desire for anything else

I don't see how you can try and impart your logic and your prefereances to MY desires

I didn't realize ya'll were so damn judgemental, I just want help figuring out if she's tellin the truth

if anyone can help with that, please let me know

[saifan]

Read my earlier post.
BTW simple internet rule: don't engage people who are hostile to you. Either they are a troll or they are right. Either way it isn't worth the effort to argue with them.

[peggygee]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/Janet-Jackson-Poetic-Justice-2.jpg

What's your name?


-Lucky.

-Lucky?


Come here, Lucky.I wanna whisper something to you.


Let's cut the bullshit.


Now, what do you really,really want from me?


-You wanna smell my poonani?

-Yeah.


You'd like that, huh?


Hold on a minute, baby.


Jessie? Come heref or a minute, please.


What?


This fine, young, dark brother...


...said he wanna smell my poonani.


Really?


Poonani?


-Should I let him?

:smh

[alyssats]

just from me if im a post op girl and the guy im dating is not interested in post op girl better just be honest to me i would understand completely so as not to waste time and effort.

[eclipsemint]

why do I have a problem because I have preferances?

if i want a vagina, I'll grab a girl, if I want to try something different, i'll go pre op, I have no desire for anything else

I don't see how you can try and impart your logic and your prefereances to MY desires

I didn't realize ya'll were so damn judgemental, I just want help figuring out if she's tellin the truth

if anyone can help with that, please let me know

Yeah, you get some appallingly judgemental people on this website. I just put it down to there'all tecchy about transex and anything related to the subject! Don't take it personal.

Anyway, for some reason when I read this thread the words from a 10cc song popped into my head.

The Things We Do For Love
"...Communication is the problem to the answer..."

Have an honest talk to her and tell her your fears.

If you're attracted to her, tell her, but say you're nervous about sex for the first time or something like that. Everybody has there own comfort boundaries and sex is the most sensitive area of all for our psyche.

I found an interesting bio (short) of what it is like for a postop girl to date men on this website which might give you more insight:
http://www.tsgirlfriend.com/dating-post-op-ts-article.html

Myself, I can count on one hand the number of sexual encounters I have had with trans women, all of them were pay for sex transactions.

On one of these few occasions I went to a transexual brothel and the only girl available was postop, so I was so horny and thought why not. Believe me, it feels no different to screwing with a gg girl.

The only possible concern I can see is whether she would find pleasure from receiving head and whether that is an important component to a long term relationship to you.

[dlon]

thanks, I appreciate that

the bottom line is though that I don't want a post op, period, and if she is, then she's lying, so i would like to find out

i'm guessing that a post op could keep this secret pretty well if she wanted to and I'll find out through my own means sooner or later but I thought it would be easier with some feedback from "experience" by members here

going through some of these threads however is leading me to believe that alot of that "experience" consists of fantasies and tranny porn

and I'm sensing that some people here are jealous, and also that i am not treating this person with respect

well I HATE being lied to more than anything by a girl and that to me is the ultimate form of disrespect, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now and I am definetly going to pursue this

btw, I have always treated every person I've been with like a queen, including my ex wife who cheated on me with many men from our engagement onwards and throughout our 7 year marriage untill I found out by pure accident, all the while I was working, paying bills, and helping raise her daughter that her baby father walked away from,

so I know how to respect, and I know how it feels to be disrespected, but I don't anything about disrespecting women

if a girl is lying to me about her situation, then she is a liar, period, this type of thing doesn't fall into the "little white lie category"

in any case, I'll post back after our date in a week, I like this board but I don't have too much private pc access, getting a new smartphone soon with net access so hopefuly I can check back more often

peace

[eclipsemint]

I appreciate that honesty is important to you, dlon.

But if it turns out that she is postop, don't judge her too harshly. When you consider all the shit that trans women have to put up with from family, friends and society while they're transitioning, it is not hard to imagine why some of them may lie or hide their most private and personal details from most people.

If she does not match your lover criteria, maybe you could still be friends. And what a great, understanding and open-minded friend you would make, considering your posts.

Peace to you too, man.

[MacShreach]

I didn't realize ya'll were so damn judgemental, I just want help figuring out if she's tellin the truth


Stick it in your ear. You're the one being judgemental, putting down post-op women. What, you want help to tell if the girl is post-op because you can't tell yourself--and then you'll use that information to insult and hurt her?

Go and fuck yourself--with an attitude like yours, it's your best chance of success.

[eclipsemint]

Nice MacShreach, very nice. Let's just escalate the conflict until we all get nuked out of existence.
Everything OK with you?

[MacShreach]

and I'm sensing that some people here are jealous, and also that i am not treating this person with respect

well I HATE being lied to more than anything by a girl and that to me is the ultimate form of disrespect, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now and I am definetly going to pursue this

You're an arrogant twat. You'll give her the benefit of the doubt? You really fancy yourself, don't you?

IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS whether the girl is post-op or natally female, unless you intend to marry her and start a family. (BTW good luck with "Excuse me, love, were you once a man? I need to know this before I fuck you." Idiot.)

A post-op woman IS a woman. FULL STOP. She doesn't have to tell anyone a damn thing about her past and she sure doesn't have to explain herself to judgemental fuckwits like you.

Capiche now, dunderhead?

[MacShreach]

Nice MacShreach, very nice. Let's just escalate the conflict until we all get nuked out of existence.
Everything OK with you?

Yeah, I'm fine, thanks for asking. You?

[eclipsemint]

Not bad. Can't complain.

You EVER back down from a fight?

[MacShreach]

Not bad. Can't complain.

You EVER back down from a fight?

It depends. There are many threads--actually, most threads, here, that I don't even open, far less get involved in.

This dickhead has got some seriously crossed wires. I've read to the end of the thread now and I see where you're coming from. But it doesn't change anything as far as I can see-- this character is presenting a bucket of very nasty stereotypes and prejudices. He came here to get information about how to trip up a woman over something that is none of his business in the first place.

It's justified in his case.

[tsslutboy]

Even if she did lie which is never good to do. I dont get why it would matter if she is post op or not.Cuz if u had real or strong feeling for sum one would sumthing about there past really change how u felt.Besides a person is made from their life experiences and through interactions with others in their past.In other words persons past is what makes them into who they r in the present. For tgirls that road called life ain't a smooth ride.If u still dont believe or accept her for who she is just let her go gently.U both will be better off that way


p.s .This could be a your fish that got a way.

[alyssats]

by the way most of my post op friends will never tell anyone they are born as a boy. i think the best thing is be honest with each other if youre sure shes a post op and not your type just move on and look for other girls just that simple

[eclipsemint]

Even if she did lie which is never good to do. I dont get why it would matter if she is post op or not.Cuz if u had real or strong feeling for sum one would sumthing about there past really change how u felt.Besides a person is made from their life experiences and through interactions with others in their past.In other words persons past is what makes them into who they r in the present. For tgirls that road called life ain't a smooth ride.If u still dont believe or accept her for who she is just let her go gently.U both will be better off that way


p.s .This could be a your fish that got a way.

Yeah...climb every mountain, ford every stream...

[peggygee]

thanks, I appreciate that

the bottom line is though that I don't want a post op, period, and if she is, then she's lying, so i would like to find out

i'm guessing that a post op could keep this secret pretty well if she wanted to and I'll find out through my own means sooner or later but I thought it would be easier with some feedback from "experience" by members here

going through some of these threads however is leading me to believe that alot of that "experience" consists of fantasies and tranny porn

and I'm sensing that some people here are jealous, and also that i am not treating this person with respect

well I HATE being lied to more than anything by a girl and that to me is the ultimate form of disrespect, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now and I am definetly going to pursue this

btw, I have always treated every person I've been with like a queen, including my ex wife who cheated on me with many men from our engagement onwards and throughout our 7 year marriage untill I found out by pure accident, all the while I was working, paying bills, and helping raise her daughter that her baby father walked away from,

so I know how to respect, and I know how it feels to be disrespected, but I don't anything about disrespecting women

if a girl is lying to me about her situation, then she is a liar, period, this type of thing doesn't fall into the "little white lie category"

in any case, I'll post back after our date in a week, I like this board but I don't have too much private pc access, getting a new smartphone soon with net access so hopefuly I can check back more often

peace

Dion, perhaps I was too obtuse in my post upthread, and you didn't get
my intent and sentiment.

I am a post op woman.

If I am casually dating someone, I usually do not divulge my herstory.

If there is serious realtionship potential I would do so.

From your statements I surmise that your intent is to casually date this
woman.

Since you are soliciting input from people on this board, I would suggest
that you sever the relationship as you feel that a post op woman isn't
someone that you would be interested in.

You go on to say that you "will find out through my own means sooner or
later."

From that and other of your statements I get the sense that you will be
conducting an investigation into the woman every moment that you are
with her.

No woman, be they trans or natal wants to feel like they are under a
microscope 24/7.

For the sake of the woman, cease and desist, please.

[MacShreach]

thanks, I appreciate that

the bottom line is though that I don't want a post op, period, and if she is, then she's lying, so i would like to find out

i'm guessing that a post op could keep this secret pretty well if she wanted to and I'll find out through my own means sooner or later but I thought it would be easier with some feedback from "experience" by members here

going through some of these threads however is leading me to believe that alot of that "experience" consists of fantasies and tranny porn

and I'm sensing that some people here are jealous, and also that i am not treating this person with respect

well I HATE being lied to more than anything by a girl and that to me is the ultimate form of disrespect, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now and I am definetly going to pursue this

btw, I have always treated every person I've been with like a queen, including my ex wife who cheated on me with many men from our engagement onwards and throughout our 7 year marriage untill I found out by pure accident, all the while I was working, paying bills, and helping raise her daughter that her baby father walked away from,

so I know how to respect, and I know how it feels to be disrespected, but I don't anything about disrespecting women

if a girl is lying to me about her situation, then she is a liar, period, this type of thing doesn't fall into the "little white lie category"

in any case, I'll post back after our date in a week, I like this board but I don't have too much private pc access, getting a new smartphone soon with net access so hopefuly I can check back more often

peace

Dion, perhaps I was too obtuse in my post upthread, and you didn't get
my intent and sentiment.

I am a post op woman.

If I am casually dating someone, I usually do not divulge my herstory.

If there is serious realtionship potential I would do so.

From your statements I surmise that your intent is to casually date this
woman.

Since you are soliciting input from people on this board, I would suggest
that you sever the relationship as you feel that a post op woman isn't
someone that you would be interested in.

You go on to say that you "will find out through my own means sooner or
later."

From that and other of your statements I get the sense that you will be
conducting an investigation into the woman every moment that you are
with her.

No woman, be they trans or natal wants to feel like they are under a
microscope 24/7.

For the sake of the woman, cease and desist, please.

+1

[mickey]

Anyone know what the outcome of the schmuck's dielema was ? :cry:
Did he give up his Inspector Cluseau impression and go with the flow ?
Did his intended confess, kick him in the nuts and walk out ? :oops:
Holy SHIT, was she a GG all along ? Would serve the pompous asshole right !

[xon]

thanks, I appreciate that

the bottom line is though that I don't want a post op, period, and if she is, then she's lying, so i would like to find out

i'm guessing that a post op could keep this secret pretty well if she wanted to and I'll find out through my own means sooner or later but I thought it would be easier with some feedback from "experience" by members here

going through some of these threads however is leading me to believe that alot of that "experience" consists of fantasies and tranny porn

and I'm sensing that some people here are jealous, and also that i am not treating this person with respect

well I HATE being lied to more than anything by a girl and that to me is the ultimate form of disrespect, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now and I am definetly going to pursue this

btw, I have always treated every person I've been with like a queen, including my ex wife who cheated on me with many men from our engagement onwards and throughout our 7 year marriage untill I found out by pure accident, all the while I was working, paying bills, and helping raise her daughter that her baby father walked away from,

so I know how to respect, and I know how it feels to be disrespected, but I don't anything about disrespecting women

if a girl is lying to me about her situation, then she is a liar, period, this type of thing doesn't fall into the "little white lie category"

in any case, I'll post back after our date in a week, I like this board but I don't have too much private pc access, getting a new smartphone soon with net access so hopefuly I can check back more often

peace

Dion, perhaps I was too obtuse in my post upthread, and you didn't get
my intent and sentiment.

I am a post op woman.

If I am casually dating someone, I usually do not divulge my herstory.

If there is serious realtionship potential I would do so.

From your statements I surmise that your intent is to casually date this
woman.

Since you are soliciting input from people on this board, I would suggest
that you sever the relationship as you feel that a post op woman isn't
someone that you would be interested in.

You go on to say that you "will find out through my own means sooner or
later."

From that and other of your statements I get the sense that you will be
conducting an investigation into the woman every moment that you are
with her.

No woman, be they trans or natal wants to feel like they are under a
microscope 24/7.

For the sake of the woman, cease and desist, please.


I mean no disrespect watsoever in saying this but dont u think the other person has a right to know who he/she is actually dating?? also it might actually be dangerous telling a person later, u never know what he/she might be capable of....some people might take the news in a diff way than u you would expect

i do agree 100% that he should not try to find out via sneaky means...he should just have a chat wid her if hes actually planning on bein serious



on a side note i dnt think we should be quick to put him down just coz he has preferences....he doesnt want a post op woman, i dnt see it any diff from a person not wanting to date people who are for example asian...theyr just preferences as long as he means no disrespect to that race or watever then its all good in my books...
"different strokes for different folks"

I personally have never been wid a post-op woman and to be honest i dnt know what id think of it...but i guess if shes a nice person and everything i might give it a go hehe

[dlon]

update

all woman, very sweet girl

evidently rumours of her transgender-ness were greatly exaggerated....

was looking to try a shemale, will settle for a beautiful woman instead, for now, lol

had she been a post op, I know I would have maintained a good friendship and treated her with respect

thanks to the few who supported me, lots of anger here for real, I try to keep that kind of negativity out of my life, hence my absence from here

any cute she males wanna link up, let me know
peace

[worldbro]

pics or it didn't happen

[tgirlzoe]

I would have loved to been there for that conversation:

"So, uh, the guys at work think you're actually a man."

Yeah, transsexual or not, you're getting slapped and probably worse.