Would most hardcore straight guys prefer

[tuwaverunner]

Would some hardcore straight guys admit to choosing a hot T-girl over a GG who was ugly as shit?

[MacShreach]

:popcorn

[Dirky]

I'd take a hot t-girl over a hot GG girl but then, that's just me.

We haven't had one of these threads in a long time. In at least a day or two.

[Coroner]

We´re all straight but we´d prefer a hot TS over a GG who´s "ugly as shit".





























:lol:

[TommyFoxtrot]

Would some hardcore straight guys admit to choosing a hot T-girl over a GG who was ugly as shit?


Yeah I guess. Some would...

But you should also ask, of those men, how many would say fuck no I'll take anything over a dude. And how many would say that and actually mean it.

There are a lot of hot T-girls who are still unattractive when you get up close.

[Quiet Reflections]

Would some hardcore straight guys admit to choosing a hot T-girl over a GG who was ugly as shit?
if someone is "hardcore straight" then id imagine that a TG would be out of the question because nothing says your not "hardcore straight" like fucking someone with a penis.

[fred41]

Would some hardcore straight guys admit to choosing a hot T-girl over a GG who was ugly as shit?
if someone is "hardcore straight" then id imagine that a TG would be out of the question because nothing says your not "hardcore straight" like fucking someone with a penis.

Agreed...the term "hardcore' implies to the nth degree...and, well...what QR said.

...I wonder how many guys on this site actually consider themselves "hardcore straight". Obviously I'm not.

[giovanni_hotel]

Obviously the answer is ......YES!!


There are TGs out there that could make a "100%" hetero dude leave his wife and kids, so it's no stretch to believe someone like JenniferTS, etc., could permanently turn a man's attention away from some random, nasty, obese unfemine, frigid GG.

Now if the the TG and GG were both 10s, that's gonna be a push, depending on personality and other issues.

Silly question to post on HA!!

[Silcc69]

I'd like to see this tested in real life rather than on here.

[raybbaby]

I am hardcore, and I am straight. I would fuck a hot TS girl before I'd take an even mediocre looking Ggirl. Hot is hot, with a penis or not!

[Ali71]

yeah your profile picture just screams hardcore straight :roll:

only messing with you guy :lol:

Im not sure what hardcore straight is but I would say if someone is hardcore as straight as can be you would say they would take the ugly gg but Im sure there are some lbs any guy anywhere could not say no to :twisted:

[Teydyn]

some hardcore straight guys
Nothing like that here, wrong crowd to ask :lol:

[raybbaby]

yeah your profile picture just screams hardcore straight :roll:

only messing with you guy :lol:

Im not sure what hardcore straight is but I would say if someone is hardcore as straight as can be you would say they would take the ugly gg but Im sure there are some lbs any guy anywhere could not say no to :twisted:
I cannot understand your last sentence.

[raybbaby]

yeah your profile picture just screams hardcore straight :roll:

only messing with you guy :lol:

Im not sure what hardcore straight is but I would say if someone is hardcore as straight as can be you would say they would take the ugly gg but Im sure there are some lbs any guy anywhere could not say no to :twisted:
I cannot understand your last sentence.

[Ali71]

what I was trying to say is that some trans girls are so hot i doubt even someone who considers themselves 'hardcore straight' could turn them down if nobody was around to see

[raybbaby]

what I was trying to say is that some trans girls are so hot i doubt even someone who considers themselves 'hardcore straight' could turn them down if nobody was around to see
Oh, I get it. I say man up and fuck a Tgirl. How much of a man are you really if you back down in the presence of another penis! I mean for chrissakes, it belongs to a girl!

[gotchagood]

That's a good question. This is one to sleep on.

[Ryz]

Why don't you ask this question on a hardcore straight forum?

[fred41]

Why don't you ask this question on a hardcore straight forum?

That's a great idea..can someone do that and report the results back here ? :lol:

[EyeCumInPiece]

I hate to stick my 2 cents in topics like this for obvious reasons, but whatever, here it goes....

I think a "hardcore" str8 guy would prefer a fat ugly beast of a vagina over a drop dead gorgeous TS, granted that he knew the TS was not a GG beforehand. Now, im assuming we are defining "hardcore str8 guy" as the typical pigheaded macho homophobic jock asshole. The kinda guy who would simply categorize even the hottest TS in the universe as a "dude." Id like to believe that the us str8 guys (or those pretending 2 be) on here, would consider themselves to being openminded str8 guys, if that makes any sense..

[Quiet Reflections]

I hate to stick my 2 cents in topics like this for obvious reasons, but whatever, here it goes....

I think a "hardcore" str8 guy would prefer a fat ugly beast of a vagina over a drop dead gorgeous TS, granted that he knew the TS was not a GG beforehand. Now, im assuming we are defining "hardcore str8 guy" as the typical pigheaded macho homophobic jock asshole. The kinda guy who would simply categorize even the hottest TS in the universe as a "dude." Id like to believe that the us str8 guys (or those pretending 2 be) on here, would consider themselves to being openminded str8 guys, if that makes any sense..
i think your dead on with that

[arnie666]

Guys who consider themselves 100 percent straight would probably do neither I reckon. Because a transexual no matter how pretty and passable she is was still born a man and these guys would never cross that line, because they would then think they were homo and even worse their friends would find out. And a really ugly hogbeast of a GG they'd probably pass up unless she forced them at gun point and fed them viagra.



I think in an ideal world though with no sterotypes and closeminded attitudes , where people did not judge or perhaps if they knew there was no way anyone would know I reckon a lot of these 'straight' guys would definately get it on with a very pretty TS.Some of them are positively stunning looking. Like Alyssa 87 ,Hara, vicki richter, mimi etc etc. I know coz very occasionally when TS came up with my friends, I think when some footballer got accused of doing one in the papers or when that famous girl fooled those guys in the gameshow some of my mates were not exactly disgusted by it.

[Ali71]

you can be hardcore straight and have sex with the ugliest girls that doesnt make you less straight because you have sex with dogs :lol:

[Deezie187]

id fuck a hot TS over a Hot GG so yea

[TommyFoxtrot]

Why don't you ask this question on a hardcore straight forum?

It does get asked and about 75% is hell no with a small minority saying "If I were really drunk."

BTW, that little video clip is funny. Is that like a Japanese pop group or something?

[TommyFoxtrot]

Guys who consider themselves 100 percent straight would probably do neither I reckon. Because a transexual no matter how pretty and passable she is was still born a man and these guys would never cross that line, because they would then think they were homo and even worse their friends would find out. And a really ugly hogbeast of a GG they'd probably pass up unless she forced them at gun point and fed them viagra.



I think in an ideal world though with no sterotypes and closeminded attitudes , where people did not judge or perhaps if they knew there was no way anyone would know I reckon a lot of these 'straight' guys would definately get it on with a very pretty TS.Some of them are positively stunning looking. Like Alyssa 87 ,Hara, vicki richter, mimi etc etc. I know coz very occasionally when TS came up with my friends, I think when some footballer got accused of doing one in the papers or when that famous girl fooled those guys in the gameshow some of my mates were not exactly disgusted by it.


Those two in half a heartbeat. But I'm already on this forum so...

[TommyFoxtrot]

you can be hardcore straight and have sex with the ugliest girls that doesnt make you less straight because you have sex with dogs :lol:


They might be the MOST straight out of all of us because they don't even need pretty visuals to work with :lol: It's all about vag.

[deee757]

What would the straight guy do with the "hot" Ts?

[giovanni_hotel]

The problem is, even if a girl is a GG, if she's a morbidly obese cave dweller I won't be able to get an erection.

I don't think there's any shame in a straight man admitting that certain TGs push that 'sex button' more easily than a nasty slag just because she was born with a slit.

Too many girls out there are barely GGs, not to be harsh but guys know exactly what I'm talking about.

Like most '100% straight' men, I didn't start out 7 years ago with an innate attraction to TGs, but now here I am and unashamed to admit it.

I don't know if it's some psychological rationalization, a latent homo/bi thing, but I'm comfortable now admitting that my attraction to TGs and GGs is roughly equal, given obvious personal exceptions.

I think once most str8 guys get over their phobia of having another penis in the bed with their own, the rest just 'comes' naturally!!

[DC]

Id always go with the hotter, regardless of who is a TS or GG

[jaycanuck]

This has unfortunately been somewhat tested in "There's Something About Miriam."

To this day I shake my head at those guys. Probably one of the most beautiful women on this planet... and they all agreed up until the reveal.

Now granted there wasn't any "competition" with a GG...but I think you saw that some guys just can't see past the gender thing.

[BLKGSXR]

This has unfortunately been somewhat tested in "There's Something About Miriam."

To this day I shake my head at those guys. Probably one of the most beautiful women on this planet... and they all agreed up until the reveal.

Now granted there wasn't any "competition" with a GG...but I think you saw that some guys just can't see past the gender thing.you know just as well as me that show was rigged lol-They knew from day one-Its like the MTV reality shows...ALL FAKE-ALL ACTORS&ACTRESSES-Sry about all caps :P :twisted:

[alpha2117]

The truth is a lot of guys would be on the TS like Rosie O'Dononell on an all you can eat buffet but they wont admit that.

If she looks female a guy will probably react as if she is a female but if asked a question in the abstract like this they'll say "no way".

[deee757]

The truth is a lot of guys would be on the TS like Rosie O'Dononell on an all you can eat buffet but they wont admit that.

If she looks female a guy will probably react as if she is a female but if asked a question in the abstract like this they'll say "no way".

I disagree because at the end of the day they have to have sex. How would that work. You have two cocks and no vagina in the room. The so called straight guy is not going to take it that far no matter how "hot" the ts has made themselves

[jaycanuck]

This has unfortunately been somewhat tested in "There's Something About Miriam."

To this day I shake my head at those guys. Probably one of the most beautiful women on this planet... and they all agreed up until the reveal.

Now granted there wasn't any "competition" with a GG...but I think you saw that some guys just can't see past the gender thing.you know just as well as me that show was rigged lol-They knew from day one-Its like the MTV reality shows...ALL FAKE-ALL ACTORS&ACTRESSES-Sry about all caps :P :twisted:

Not so sure about that. We don't know what the release forms stated..but supposedly they were just told there could be some shocks along the way. There was a lawsuit. Who knows..

[BLKGSXR]

This has unfortunately been somewhat tested in "There's Something About Miriam."

To this day I shake my head at those guys. Probably one of the most beautiful women on this planet... and they all agreed up until the reveal.

Now granted there wasn't any "competition" with a GG...but I think you saw that some guys just can't see past the gender thing.you know just as well as me that show was rigged lol-They knew from day one-Its like the MTV reality shows...ALL FAKE-ALL ACTORS&ACTRESSES-Sry about all caps :P :twisted:

Not so sure about that. We don't know what the release forms stated..but supposedly they were just told there could be some shocks along the way. There was a lawsuit. Who knows..Yeh Ive heard all the bells and whistles of that story..Im just saying its all BS because people found out she was a TS and eyebrows were raised....RATINGS dudes...RATINGS

[jaycanuck]

This has unfortunately been somewhat tested in "There's Something About Miriam."

To this day I shake my head at those guys. Probably one of the most beautiful women on this planet... and they all agreed up until the reveal.

Now granted there wasn't any "competition" with a GG...but I think you saw that some guys just can't see past the gender thing.you know just as well as me that show was rigged lol-They knew from day one-Its like the MTV reality shows...ALL FAKE-ALL ACTORS&ACTRESSES-Sry about all caps :P :twisted:

Not so sure about that. We don't know what the release forms stated..but supposedly they were just told there could be some shocks along the way. There was a lawsuit. Who knows..Yeh Ive heard all the bells and whistles of that story..Im just saying its all BS because people found out she was a TS and eyebrows were raised....RATINGS dudes...RATINGS

Let's get Miriam on here and tell us. :)

[BLKGSXR]

that always works -_- lol

[MacShreach]

This has unfortunately been somewhat tested in "There's Something About Miriam."

To this day I shake my head at those guys. Probably one of the most beautiful women on this planet... and they all agreed up until the reveal.

Now granted there wasn't any "competition" with a GG...but I think you saw that some guys just can't see past the gender thing.

It was very telling, I agree. Even if it was faked, and there are plenty of good reasons why I don't give that idea any credence at all so I'm not even going to go there, then the attitude of those who faked it was pretty bad.

Whether, however, many (not all, but many) straight guys would take a 250lb GG with ugly or a gorgeous TG babe like Miriam depends, I suspect, on exactly whom they think will find out about it.

[TommyFoxtrot]

This has unfortunately been somewhat tested in "There's Something About Miriam."

To this day I shake my head at those guys. Probably one of the most beautiful women on this planet... and they all agreed up until the reveal.

Now granted there wasn't any "competition" with a GG...but I think you saw that some guys just can't see past the gender thing.


Well that's how folks like us feel. We have to see it from their perspective. To MOST men, a woman having a vagina is a fundamental. No Vagina? She might as well have no legs. Heck maybe we should break it down, a Hot woman with no Legs or a Hot Woman with Legs but also a Penis...and no Vagina.

When we say "why can't these guys look past the gender thing" like it's no big deal--to other people it looks like we've spent too much time on TS boards.

[GinX]

I hate to say it, but from my own personal experience, most guys would run for the hills the minute they found out that the 'hot girl' they were with was actually a pre-op MTF transsexual. These guys, as have been said before, cannot past the fact that the woman he's with just happens to have a penis. In the minds of men like these, if I have sex with another person that has a penis, I am a man having sex with another man, no matter how womanly "he" outwardly appears to be, so having sex with this person would make me gay.

It is further sad that this seems to be the majority opinion of mainstream society...if two people have sex, and both have penises, but neither one has a vagina, then it's two gay men having sex. I'm certain that such an attitude is something that all of us here at HA heartily disagree with...I just wish more people disagreed as much as we do.

[MacShreach]

To MOST men, a woman having a vagina is a fundamental. No Vagina? She might as well have no legs.

I agree about that-- I think it is an issue. What is far less understandable is the negative reaction towards Post-Op women by many of the same men.

It just looks like plain old prejudice.

[eclipsemint]

I hate to say it, but from my own personal experience, most guys would run for the hills the minute they found out that the 'hot girl' they were with was actually a pre-op MTF transsexual. These guys, as have been said before, cannot past the fact that the woman he's with just happens to have a penis. In the minds of men like these, if I have sex with another person that has a penis, I am a man having sex with another man, no matter how womanly "he" outwardly appears to be, so having sex with this person would make me gay.

It is further sad that this seems to be the majority opinion of mainstream society...if two people have sex, and both have penises, but neither one has a vagina, then it's two gay men having sex. I'm certain that such an attitude is something that all of us here at HA heartily disagree with...I just wish more people disagreed as much as we do.

Yes, but...this question was not posed to "most men I know", but rather to a select minority of men who are members of a forum dedicated to transgender women and the men who admire them...

So...naturally the majority of THESE men are going to not give two hoots whether the woman turns out to have a penis or a vagina. As long as she is attactive, that is their primary criteria. (And beauty is in the eye of the beholder.)

[TommyFoxtrot]

To MOST men, a woman having a vagina is a fundamental. No Vagina? She might as well have no legs.

I agree about that-- I think it is an issue. What is far less understandable is the negative reaction towards Post-Op women by many of the same men.

It just looks like plain old prejudice.


Yeah that I feel bad about. It could also be the issue of no kids etc...
I'm strange myself. I don't watch Lesbian porn at all, it does just about nothing for me. I would also wretch if I found out the woman I was with was a hermaphrodite. But if she was a TS-- 8)

[gotchagood]

Well, I slept on it. I guess I would just loose out, because quite frankly, Although alot of the ladies on here and elsewhere are stunning, I'm not into anal sex with "anyone" and most gg's these days, just flat out give me the creeps. So I guess I'd just hit me a lick and go on about my business.


Have a great day all

[jjhill]

Well, I slept on it. I guess I would just loose out, because quite frankly, Although alot of the ladies on here and elsewhere are stunning, I'm not into anal sex with "anyone" and most gg's these days, just flat out give me the creeps. So I guess I'd just hit me a lick and go on about my business.


Have a great day all

lmfao I love that answer!

Make me think of a Juvenile line "This ain't gonna last long, gotta get my cash on, come up on a super fire lick, and get my ass home?

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.

[jjhill]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.

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[Quiet Reflections]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.

[gotchagood]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.



I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Society had nothing to do with how I turned out. You could put me in a dress, and I "still" wouldn't like it. Alot of boys paint their nails as children but "many" don't grow up to wear dresses and look at other guys as a sexual prospect. As long as "I" can remember, I have never been attracted to another man/boy or anything with masculine features, including gg's. No one ever told me about the rules of "manhood" either. I'm not afraid of labels either. I think that your theory of if no one every defined male and female roles then everyone would either be gay or bi doesn't hold water.

As I have stated at times before, It's interesting how people in the bush etc. who's never seen the internet, a car, radio, paper, pencils, clothes, etc. Somehow still manage to marry someone of the opposite sex and have and raise children. And they do all this without societal influences. It's not a coincidence.


Have a great day

[Quiet Reflections]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.
it had nothing to do with you being bisexual mr paranoid guy. Do what makes you happy and try not to sweat the small stuff. it had everything to do with the fact that you would choose a guy over a HOT ts, and a HOT gg and i have never heard that from anyone even a bi guy.

[JackLovesTSs]

What I have to laugh at are these "people" (I put that in quotes because they can hardly be compared to "humans") who always post some homophobic reply to my youtube vids which always feature hot Tgirls. I usually delete them because they're like "she's still a dude" or "chick with dick", or "if you like her you're a fag", etc. And I've always wondered what these guys would do with a DRAG KING. I mean, there are some drag kings that make butt ugly guys, and some look like cute gay guys. Either way, it would be "straight sex". I wonder how "right" that would feel. lol.

I always considered myself straight, but NO WAY in hell would I ever do any girl dressed as a guy. But I will take just about any hot Tgirl over any other GG, hot or otherwise. For one reason, hot tgirls are generally pretty smart and hot girls are generally pretty stupid.

But as we know, all these homophobe rednecks are a bunch of hypocrits. They do there dads, brothers, cousins, moms, sisters, pigs, horses. So, wtf.

[JackLovesTSs]

I think that your theory of if no one every defined male and female roles then everyone would either be gay or bi doesn't hold water.

As I have stated at times before, It's interesting how people in the bush etc. who's never seen the internet, a car, radio, paper, pencils, clothes, etc. Somehow still manage to marry someone of the opposite sex and have and raise children. And they do all this without societal influences. It's not a coincidence.


Have a great day


WTF!!!!!!!!!!! Lmao. I love when people TRY to act smart. Lay off the dope. I've only seen that kind of logic, if you could call it that, one other place. Are you George W. Bush?

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.
it had nothing to do with you being bisexual mr paranoid guy. Do what makes you happy and try not to sweat the small stuff. it had everything to do with the fact that you would choose a guy over a HOT ts, and a HOT gg and i have never heard that from anyone even a bi guy.

Im not paranoid. What planet are you living on?

Do you know how many bisexual guys there are that prefer men to women? Or bi guys in relationships with men rather than women?

A lot more bi guys prefer men to women, im not in a minority.

However, granted i can see why youd find it crazy, i did not say 'any guy' did i? I said a handsome beautiful fully waxed tanned bodybuilder. Surely you can see the difference?

Even as a straight guy, you must surely be able to see that a very muscular man with smooth skin and v handsome face is ''good looking''. Im not saying that you have to be attracted to him, i dont think you would be. But surely you can distinguish between 'just a guy' and a beuatiful extremely muscled and well kept man, can you not?

[Quiet Reflections]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.
it had nothing to do with you being bisexual mr paranoid guy. Do what makes you happy and try not to sweat the small stuff. it had everything to do with the fact that you would choose a guy over a HOT ts, and a HOT gg and i have never heard that from anyone even a bi guy.

Im not paranoid. What planet are you living on?

Do you know how many bisexual guys there are that prefer men to women? Or bi guys in relationships with men rather than women?

A lot more bi guys prefer men to women, im not in a minority.

However, granted i can see why youd find it crazy, i did not say 'any guy' did i? I said a handsome beautiful fully waxed tanned bodybuilder. Surely you can see the difference?

Even as a straight guy, you must surely be able to see that a very muscular man with smooth skin and v handsome face is ''good looking''. Im not saying that you have to be attracted to him, i dont think you would be. But surely you can distinguish between 'just a guy' and a beuatiful extremely muscled and well kept man, can you not?
you dont seem to be getting it. i called you paranoid because you seem to think im attacking you which i havn't.Like i said I have never heard it from a bi guy. Everyone can tell the difference between Brad Pitt and Flava Flav but since the issue was not who your attracted to but the fact that i personally have never heard anyone say it......Who the fuck cares. I don't care if you like guys or girls or lemon lollipops. you seem to want to focus on the wrong issue. The proper response would be thats strange on a supposedly gay,bi friendly site i would think you my have heard that before. Instead you took it personal

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.
it had nothing to do with you being bisexual mr paranoid guy. Do what makes you happy and try not to sweat the small stuff. it had everything to do with the fact that you would choose a guy over a HOT ts, and a HOT gg and i have never heard that from anyone even a bi guy.

Im not paranoid. What planet are you living on?

Do you know how many bisexual guys there are that prefer men to women? Or bi guys in relationships with men rather than women?

A lot more bi guys prefer men to women, im not in a minority.

However, granted i can see why youd find it crazy, i did not say 'any guy' did i? I said a handsome beautiful fully waxed tanned bodybuilder. Surely you can see the difference?

Even as a straight guy, you must surely be able to see that a very muscular man with smooth skin and v handsome face is ''good looking''. Im not saying that you have to be attracted to him, i dont think you would be. But surely you can distinguish between 'just a guy' and a beuatiful extremely muscled and well kept man, can you not?
you dont seem to be getting it. i called you paranoid because you seem to think im attacking you which i havn't.Like i said I have never heard it from a bi guy. Everyone can tell the difference between Brad Pitt and Flava Flav but since the issue was not who your attracted to but the fact that i personally have never heard anyone say it......Who the fuck cares. I don't care if you like guys or girls or lemon lollipops. you seem to want to focus on the wrong issue. The proper response would be thats strange on a supposedly gay,bi friendly site i would think you my have heard that before. Instead you took it personal

Ok, its cool bro. Maybe i took it slightly personal when reflecting back at what i wrote. My apologies.

I might be bi, but i am still attracted to hot ts and hot females a lot :D

Just like maybe only a small minority on here but i like sexy guys too.

Lol you made my point exactly with brad pitt and flava lol :lol: But i just want to take it even further than brad pitt, say someone with brad's face but at 240 lbs ripped. Maybe dreaming arrgh, its the ts curse, you always want more excitement and after dating so many ts it just feels normal, now i want more excitement feel more danger almost.

Anyway peace to you bro. :)

[GinX]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.



I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Society had nothing to do with how I turned out. You could put me in a dress, and I "still" wouldn't like it. Alot of boys paint their nails as children but "many" don't grow up to wear dresses and look at other guys as a sexual prospect. As long as "I" can remember, I have never been attracted to another man/boy or anything with masculine features, including gg's. No one ever told me about the rules of "manhood" either. I'm not afraid of labels either. I think that your theory of if no one every defined male and female roles then everyone would either be gay or bi doesn't hold water.

As I have stated at times before, It's interesting how people in the bush etc. who's never seen the internet, a car, radio, paper, pencils, clothes, etc. Somehow still manage to marry someone of the opposite sex and have and raise children. And they do all this without societal influences. It's not a coincidence.


Have a great day

I think you're missing the point. The reason you wouldn't like being in a dress and the reason you aren't attracted to men is because you are not genetically dispositioned to do so. To wit: you are heterosexual, so, of course, you have never had any homosexual inclinations.

Society influences everyone on some level to some extent and this is true whether the individual in question lives in a primitive, tribal society or modern urban society.

The point he was trying to make is that mainstream society often adopts-and even insists on applying-labels to those things which are considered to be outside of 'what is normal'. Further, a person will most likely blithely accept these labels without really any due consideration. Why? Simple...members of his society have been defining that label for him on a consistent basis; hence, he adopts the same attitude.

Here's an example: if you ask most people, they'll that if two people are having sex and they both have a penis but neither one has a vagina, then it's two gay men having sex...that's right, if you have sex with a pre-op TS, no matter whether you are giving or receiving, most people are going to label you as a homosexual...and why? Simple...most people have been told by other members of their society that your physical shell is only thing that truly determines your gender and, unfortunately, most people have run with that.

[MacShreach]

hot girls are generally pretty stupid.



Ah, a misogynist fuckwit cock-hound. Must be a subspecies.

[MacShreach]

To MOST men, a woman having a vagina is a fundamental. No Vagina? She might as well have no legs.

I agree about that-- I think it is an issue. What is far less understandable is the negative reaction towards Post-Op women by many of the same men.

It just looks like plain old prejudice.


Yeah that I feel bad about. It could also be the issue of no kids etc...


I can fully understand that issue. I have suggested before that TS women looking to settle down with a man may do better to avoid younger men and go for more mature men who have the child-rearing part of their lives behind them. Clearly that wouldn't be to every girl's taste but I think it might avoid a good deal of heartache.

[MacShreach]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.

Hey, way to go, "hardcore straight guy" ^^^^^^ (look up there)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[alpha2117]

The truth is a lot of guys would be on the TS like Rosie O'Dononell on an all you can eat buffet but they wont admit that.

If she looks female a guy will probably react as if she is a female but if asked a question in the abstract like this they'll say "no way".

I disagree because at the end of the day they have to have sex. How would that work. You have two cocks and no vagina in the room. The so called straight guy is not going to take it that far no matter how "hot" the ts has made themselves

Yeah you're right ... no straight guys EVER try to make their girls take it in the ass :roll:

It is actually the Invisible Man scenario. In the Invisible Man he does the most heinous things imaginable not because the formula makes him insane but far more disturbingly he does them because he thinks he cant be caught. Many of our baser urges are kept in check mainly because we fear the consequenses of being caught.

If a guy didn't think he would get found out about it and he had the chance to nail say Vaniity or Jennifer Paris then I'm pretty sure the answer is actually yes. We've all seen guys put up with terrible shit from girls just because he thinks he's going to get laid and frankly I see this scenario as the same thing for straight guys ... he'll put up with her being TS because she's hot, he doesn't think he'll get caught and he'll get laid.

I just think it's more the fear of being caught that would stop a str8 guy rather than any revulsion in regards to the girls chromosomes.

[giovanni_hotel]

I agee 100% with alpha2117.

Protection from being discovered is one reason why so many incarcerated 'straight' men engage in homosexual sexual activities behind prison walls.

Also, I'd venture to guess nearly 80% of straight women have been approached with the idea of engaging in anal sex by their significant others.

There are too many str8 guys out there who 'crave' anal sex from their girlfriends for me to believe they would refuse the opportunity from a TG.

Bottom line, str8 dudes can be VERY shady, and if their boys won't find out, they are inclined to engage in all kinds of unmasculine behavior.

True story - my first year in HS, freshman year, playing football, a teammate in the locker room was like, to me, " you dude, you have got a PHAT ass! If you were a girl, I'd have to take that. I bet that ass looks tight in a pair of Calvins."

He laughed, quickly played that shit off as a big joke, and I took it as one too.

This dude was one of the biggest pussy hogs on the planet, always had 3 or four girls on standby, and yet his head had creeped into territory a str8 man should never tread.

Lots of homo-erotic shit goes down in a locker room, one of the most hyper-masculine environments you could ever imagine.

I used to have a teammate who thought it was too funny to come out of the shower after practice and walk around to other guys who were getting dressed, bend over, spread his butt cheeks, and scream, " Red-eye!!"

We also used to have a hazing tradition on my HS football team where underclassmen were stripped naked, taken into the shower where a bottle of lotion was inserted and squeezed up their ass.

All very 'gay' type shit, but if you ever spoke up to one of them that this is all very homo, you would be guaranteed to be picking your teeth up off the ground.

But gay guys can be shady too; I used to have this Black queen who ran up to me every time at my gym whenever I came out of the shower, dripping wet and butt naked, to talk about ESPN SPortscenter!!
Sometimes he would stand there blatantly staring at my junk, other times he would sit on the locker bench near my stall, eye level with my cock. 2 minutes and he would jet.

Points is, ALL men will do what they can get away with, especially 'straight' men.

And I'm not the only formerly straight-arrow hetero dude turned out by the thought of getting hot and sweaty with a killer tranny chick.

[JackLovesTSs]

hot girls are generally pretty stupid.



Ah, a misogynist fuckwit cock-hound. Must be a subspecies.

I definitely DON'T hate women. lol.

Especially this one....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

[gotchagood]

Id rather take a hot man, i mean he would have to be really hot, sexy bodybuilder with big dick and v handsome face mmmmmmmmm. Something you hardly ever see.

Then the hot ts.

Then a hot girl.

Then the ugly girl.

Why would i want to have sex with an ugly girl, id rather have sex with my palm.

I am bisexual though. So prob not the best person, just thought id leave my opinion though.
WOW....

Its not a crime to be bisexual is it?

There are millions of gay men in the world, there are millions of bisexual men in the world.

It is just a label. The same label that determines what gender society will typecast you into.

An ugly ts is no less transgendered than a beautiful ts, yet some people on this forum will typecast them. All just labels.

I think when some people on here get to grips with the whole label issue and realise it means nothing, the closer they would become to having sex with a great looking ts. Alas some people will never understand though.

I just happen to think that a beautiful (handsome) male bodybuilder looks better than the female form. Just my opinion.



I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Society had nothing to do with how I turned out. You could put me in a dress, and I "still" wouldn't like it. Alot of boys paint their nails as children but "many" don't grow up to wear dresses and look at other guys as a sexual prospect. As long as "I" can remember, I have never been attracted to another man/boy or anything with masculine features, including gg's. No one ever told me about the rules of "manhood" either. I'm not afraid of labels either. I think that your theory of if no one every defined male and female roles then everyone would either be gay or bi doesn't hold water.

As I have stated at times before, It's interesting how people in the bush etc. who's never seen the internet, a car, radio, paper, pencils, clothes, etc. Somehow still manage to marry someone of the opposite sex and have and raise children. And they do all this without societal influences. It's not a coincidence.


Have a great day

I think you're missing the point. The reason you wouldn't like being in a dress and the reason you aren't attracted to men is because you are not genetically dispositioned to do so. To wit: you are heterosexual, so, of course, you have never had any homosexual inclinations.

Society influences everyone on some level to some extent and this is true whether the individual in question lives in a primitive, tribal society or modern urban society.

The point he was trying to make is that mainstream society often adopts-and even insists on applying-labels to those things which are considered to be outside of 'what is normal'. Further, a person will most likely blithely accept these labels without really any due consideration. Why? Simple...members of his society have been defining that label for him on a consistent basis; hence, he adopts the same attitude.

Here's an example: if you ask most people, they'll that if two people are having sex and they both have a penis but neither one has a vagina, then it's two gay men having sex...that's right, if you have sex with a pre-op TS, no matter whether you are giving or receiving, most people are going to label you as a homosexual...and why? Simple...most people have been told by other members of their society that your physical shell is only thing that truly determines your gender and, unfortunately, most people have run with that. Well said and I understand what you're saying, but society doesn't dictate and never has for "me" how I view gender or gender roles. As long as I can remember I have considered transgenders one of the opposite sex. Why? Because What I see, hear, smell and taste indicates "woman". Just the same as I consider transgender Buck one of the "same" sex,(signals male) therefore there's no attraction to him even though there's a vagina. You can put a beautiful transgender girl in a big hat and overalls with her back turned, and if she's still giving off female signals, I'm walking that way. I've been around feminine "men" and have gotten a semi woody, but I had no desire to plug his butt hole with my penis.


Have a great day

[TsJennifer]

The truth is a lot of guys would be on the TS like Rosie O'Dononell on an all you can eat buffet but they wont admit that.

If she looks female a guy will probably react as if she is a female but if asked a question in the abstract like this they'll say "no way".

I disagree because at the end of the day they have to have sex. How would that work. You have two cocks and no vagina in the room. The so called straight guy is not going to take it that far no matter how "hot" the ts has made themselves

Yeah you're right ... no straight guys EVER try to make their girls take it in the ass :roll:

It is actually the Invisible Man scenario. In the Invisible Man he does the most heinous things imaginable not because the formula makes him insane but far more disturbingly he does them because he thinks he cant be caught. Many of our baser urges are kept in check mainly because we fear the consequenses of being caught.

If a guy didn't think he would get found out about it and he had the chance to nail say Vaniity or Jennifer Paris then I'm pretty sure the answer is actually yes. We've all seen guys put up with terrible shit from girls just because he thinks he's going to get laid and frankly I see this scenario as the same thing for straight guys ... he'll put up with her being TS because she's hot, he doesn't think he'll get caught and he'll get laid.

I just think it's more the fear of being caught that would stop a str8 guy rather than any revulsion in regards to the girls chromosomes.


Lol thats too funny! You have no idea how many "straight" men I have had! Usually I would saw 95 percent of the men I actually date have no idea Im a TS till I break the news to them after I decided if Im really that interested in them! Rarely do they have and issue with it and i was there first ts experince. However Ive been surpized and have had guys that ive dated pass on me after me telling them.

[DC]

There is no way I'd pass... Your a hottie

[Head]

Would some hardcore straight guys admit to choosing a hot T-girl over a GG who was ugly as shit?

I'd choose both and have a great time with them :wink:

[NYBURBS]

Ah, a misogynist fuckwit cock-hound. Must be a subspecies.

Perhaps he is a part of the MacShreachosaurus subspecies of cockhounds. Recent carbon dating tests show that they inhabited the HA Forums sometime in the late 2005 period:

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=4572&start=10


Seconded. There's something so visually satifying about dicks...I guess that's why they appear as space-ships or whatever in gozillions of sci-fi comix. I mean I like pussy too, both types have their own visual and tactile charms. Orally I must admit to preferring a nice clean ass, it just knocks me out working the tip of my tongue in there, and there's less risk of lockjaw, but a well-turned dick just has a purity of form that's an instant turn-on. For me anyway. :D

[armando57]

I would prefer a TS over a GG even if the GG was the hottest on the planet. God's masterpiece was creating the TS girls.

[CaptainGeech]

Ugly chicks are why they invented the brown paper bag.

[phobun]

It would sound queer for any guy to call himself "hardcore straight".

That being said, I only like pussy. I would take a hot post-op over a less-hot GG anyday, but not if she is still pre-op.

[peggygee]

Would some hardcore straight guys admit to choosing a hot T-girl over a GG who was ugly as shit?

Asking that question here, is definetely "preaching to the choir."

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/freestyle_releasing/preaching_to_the_choir/patti_labelle/choir2.jpg

Though I will try to answer vis - a - vis my own experiences.

When I was was pre-op, and would tell my status, most of the men and
I ended up kicking it, and in some instances ended up in a relationship.

For some though, my having a penis was a deal breaker.

Now post op, if I tell a man my status, it's not as much of an issue.

So I would say that yes, two penii in a realtionship may be perceived as
a negative by men not on this board.

[Helvis2012]

Depends on the person but your use of term "hardcore" makes me inclined to answer, no.