OLD SCHOOL RAP

[hotvegasguy26]

I'M SITTIN HERE DL'ING SOME MUSIC AND I JUST CANT GET OVER HOW SHITTY NEW RAP MUSIC IS ( IF THATS WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT) ....ANYWAY AT THE TENDER AGE OF 29 I PRETTY MUCH LISTEN TO ROCK AND METAL BUT I LIKE ALL KINDS OF MUSIC AND GREW UP LISTENING TO RAP AND R&B....I STILL LIKE TO LISTEN TO SOME DRE, JODECI, PAC, TOO SHORT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE RAP IS DEAD....IF YOU KNOW OF SOME GOOD SHIT AND CAN PROVE ME WRONG BY ALL MEANS PLEASE DO..... IN THE MEANTIME HERE'S AN OLD SCHOOL TRACK THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW BUT ITS HOT REGARDLESSS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhC8fuiiCXM

[Alyssa87]

i'm with you.
almost ALL my iTunes is hip hop and r&b from the 90's.
particularly 93-96.

and i'm only 21 :shock:

[Dirky]

I think most types of music run their course and rap is no exception. What you get nowadays is mostly watered down or commercialized. I can't remember the last time I was blown away by a new rap album. Nothing wrong with sticking to the old school stuff though!

[Dirky]

i'm with you.
almost ALL my iTunes is hip hop and r&b from the 90's.
particularly 93-96.

and i'm only 21 :shock:

Every generation goes through that. I'm sure if you were 21 during the early 90's, you'd feel nostalgic for 80's R&B.

It's called 'getting old'. lol

[hotvegasguy26]

good girl....you know whats up then.... im sitting here listening to dre, jodeci, shai, too short, luniz, ugk, tupac, biggie, the lox, 112....ahh those were the days... brings back memories

[hotvegasguy26]

i STRONGLY disagree with you Dirky.... i'm open minded to all music new and old, and although the old shit does have a nostalgic effect its not at all why i feel the new rap is doo doo.... also rock, hard rock, country has all been goin strong for decades

[Alyssa87]

i'm with you.
almost ALL my iTunes is hip hop and r&b from the 90's.
particularly 93-96.

and i'm only 21 :shock:

Every generation goes through that. I'm sure if you were 21 during the early 90's, you'd feel nostalgic for 80's R&B.

It's called 'getting old'. lol

my shuga is high,
my awtha-ritis is actin up,
and i keep trippin over my own breasts.
http://www.vpsingles.com/pics/oldlady.gif



good girl....you know whats up then.... im sitting here listening to dre, jodeci, shai, too short, luniz, ugk, tupac, biggie, the lox, 112....ahh those were the days... brings back memories


ooh yess :idea:

dont forget about the girls tho :evil:
i dont know if i would be who i am today without Kim, Fox, TLC, Mary & Faith.

[hotvegasguy26]

ok i got you....and even though i didnt really bump that shit (female artists) while ridin down the block i definitely feel you on that... "the firm" whaaaaat? ......"junior mafia" whaaaaat?

[Alyssa87]

get money & affirmative action

ahh.. THE CLASSICS

[Dirky]

i STRONGLY disagree with you Dirky.... i'm open minded to all music new and old, and although the old shit does have a nostalgic effect its not at all why i feel the new rap is doo doo.... also rock, hard rock, country has all been goin strong for decades

I don't think rock and country are in great shape these days either. In fact, most of what passes for new music is dismal compared to what came before.

[jaycanuck]

I was in the Canadian hip hop scene in the 90s...with a bit of Ice T, Run DMC and Beastie Boys in there.

Maestro Fresh Wes
Kish
Dream Warriors
Michie Mee
Organized Rhyme

These days I like KOS, and Kardinal Offishall

[hotvegasguy26]

the firm-firm fiasco...nas-getdown.....get money....i could be here all day doin this i love old school shit

[Dirky]

This thread inspired me to pull this one out and give it a listen.

http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/5/G/-/-/-/Nas-Illmatic.jpg

[hotvegasguy26]

oh in case u didnt know....alyssa this is for u too.... AZ- sugar hill - mo money mo murda ....two hot old school east coast rap songs

[Alyssa87]

This thread inspired me to pull this one out and give it a listen.

http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/5/G/-/-/-/Nas-Illmatic.jpg

the ghetto bible.lol


oh in case u didnt know....alyssa this is for u too.... AZ- sugar hill - mo money mo murda ....two hot old school east coast rap songs

papi- you're preaching to the choir :wink:

[hotvegasguy26]

lol ok ok....just in case.... i know ur young :)

[Alyssa87]

i have an old soul.


good lookin out brotha ;)

[BLKGSXR]

I was in the Canadian hip hop scene in the 90s...with a bit of Ice T, Run DMC and Beastie Boys in there.

Maestro Fresh Wes
Kish
Dream Warriors
Michie Mee
Organized Rhyme

These days I like KOS, and Kardinal OffishallMan kardinal Offishall underground stuff was amazing.... Now not so good...ever hear of aguy named KMW in TDOT?

[hotvegasguy26]

ahh im just lookin out for your best interest....but ur from jersey u know whats up

[jaycanuck]

I was in the Canadian hip hop scene in the 90s...with a bit of Ice T, Run DMC and Beastie Boys in there.

Maestro Fresh Wes
Kish
Dream Warriors
Michie Mee
Organized Rhyme

These days I like KOS, and Kardinal OffishallMan kardinal Offishall underground stuff was amazing.... Now not so good...My friend is also underground I dont know if youve ever heard of KMW

I'm not as into rap these days. I'm more along the lines of Offishall or De La Soul...that stuff. I guess i'm more into indie rock these days..but am always open to new stuff along those lines.

[BLKGSXR]

here a myspace music link of his...

http://www.myspace.com/kmwthe1

girls will like MY SUNSHINE

[lupinIII]

When you say new rap, do you mean the mainstream, dross? Aside from a bit of Kanye, a bit of Lupe, and the odd song by Timba, I agree that much of it's a steaming pile of shit. On the other hand, if you go underground and international there's some genuinely fresh, and revitalising music out there. British and Aussie hip-hop groups are doing some really cool stuff that I would highly recommend.

Brits
Dizzee Rascal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NyHfX9djPw
Wiley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnezldGu7JU
The Streets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm3fPCJ4DQY

Aussies
The Herd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQnGqdFO9EY
Astronomy Class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkhYG5hRC1E
Hilltop Hoods (I hate this band but they seem to be popular)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFT2OKcdk0

[jaycanuck]

The Streets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm3fPCJ4DQY

Forgot The Streets. Good call

[lupinIII]

Indeed, the second album he did, A Grand Don't Come For Free, was probably the 1st hip-hop album I really got into.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A8T4lVu074

That song ranks in my top 10 easily, the bit where the music changes as his pill takes effect is by far one of the most atmospheric and evocative moments ever.

[sp fan]

there is still plenty of good hip hop these days its just not on tv or the radio. you just have to put in the effort to find it. hip hop is just as good as the 80's 90's now its just on tv or the radio

[muhmuh]

yeah rap was so much better back in the days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8bSpLKAhKc

[hotvegasguy26]

FUNNY

[Willie Escalade]

Go to the last album listened to thread to see what I'm feeling right now.

Most of the music on my media player is the "older" stuff as well. I remember my father telling me that you will continue to listen to stuff you grew up on (he still listens to a lot of Motown and Stax records). I told him I'd keep up with the times. To a point I do, but I still find myself listening to Jodeci, Bell Biv Devoe, early Cordozar Brodaus, and the like. He was right!

Now I've gotta break out my Ready To Die, Reasonable Doubt, and Sex Packets CDs...after I'm through with The Whispers! :D

[train_rider]

I don't listen to rap as much these days, but I agree the early - mid 90s was the best for rap.

If you must get one rap album, I'd recommend A Tribe Called Quest' Low End Theory. Rap at it's best

[transmaven]

old school rap?

here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eplSA1aMb6U&fmt=18

[TJT]

I've had this lyric stuck in my head for months and can't remember who did it. it went like this;

"Crack killed Apple Jack
He jumped in but he couldn't jump back
Death lives in the rock house.'

It's circa '84/'85 and it seems to me it was early stuff from the West Coast,but that's all I can recall.

[BLKGSXR]

old school rap?

here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eplSA1aMb6U&fmt=18
Cant ever forget about Havoc and Prodigy good post 8)

[transmaven]

Cant ever forget about Havoc and Prodigy good post

glad you liked it, :) The Infamous is an incredible album

brings me back to the Queens of another time...

[TJT]

Willie your Dad is right and must be my age. I live on that old Stax/Motown stuff and still wonder why Junior Walker didn't sue Steve Winwood for "Roll With Me Baby" back in the 80's. All it is is "Shotgun" with a different lyric.

I had the radio on scan on the drive home the other day. I heard this horn intro and went "Damn! It's the Bar-Kay's!!!" and hit the stop button.

Nah,it was just some young shit sampling the intro, mixing it with a beat and hollerin' over it. I cussed all the way home.

[jjhill]

It's some good music that's out now, like that new Method Man & Red Man, Eminem, Raekwon, Ghostface, Mos Def, Jay-Z, Nas, AZ etc. All of them got new hot tracks out. You just have to know where to get your music from, radio and tv wouldn't be the best option. Internet is!

[Willie Escalade]

You just have to know where to get your music from, radio and tv wouldn't be the best option. Internet is!
Damn straight!

[Willie Escalade]

I was recently listening to The Coup. Who remembers them? (Not that they've gone away or anything)

In this land I can't stand or sit
and not get shit thrown up in my face
A brotha never gets his props
I'm doin bellyflops at the department of waste
And everyday I pulls a front so nobody pulls my card
I got a mirror in my pocket and I practice lookin hard
I'm lookin behind me beside me ahead of me
There'll be no feet makin' tracks here instead of me
But I can't disregard just what the news says to me
I'm twenty-one, so I've reached my life expectancy
At any minute I could be in some shit that kills my skinny ass
From motherfuckers doin the sellout strut or probably Oakland task
My relationship with OPD has been like one big diss
Long arm of the law, grips my dick so tight it's hard to even piss
So I forgot ain't even got a pot to do it in
Up at the church they're tellin me it's because I live in sin
So I grin, but nevertheless my mind won't dwell
I must be trippin cause I thought I was livin in hell
Capitalism is like a spider, the web is getting tighter
I'm struggling like a fighter, just to bust loose
It's like a noose asyphyxiation sets in
Just when I think I'm free it seems to me the spider steps in
This web is made of money made of greed made of me
Of what I have become in a parasite economy

...from "Not Yet Free"

[Quiet Reflections]

I've had this lyric stuck in my head for months and can't remember who did it. it went like this;

"Crack killed Apple Jack
He jumped in but he couldn't jump back
Death lives in the rock house.'

It's circa '84/'85 and it seems to me it was early stuff from the West Coast,but that's all I can recall.

General Kane

[Fox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ybqP7G6Po

Definitely check out "The Art of Rhyme" on youtube. This clip is from it. Also check out Lupe Fiasco if you haven't yet. He puts a lot of thought into his rhymes. Sometimes you'll miss little nuggets until you read the lyrics. lol

[timxxx]

Ahhh........Nostalgia Isn't What It Used to Be :roll:

[jjhill]

I'm curious to what you guys think of Jay-Z D.O.A

[BLKGSXR]

what about Jay-Z and DMX battles from years ago....

[sp fan]

I am sure all the hip hop old school legends are just proud as ever to be discussed on a board like this.

[jjhill]

I am sure all the hip hop old school legends are just proud as ever to be discussed on a board like this.

hey some of the legends wouldn't mind. like snoop and beans lol

[jjhill]

what about Jay-Z and DMX battles from years ago....

damn i missed that one, im sure jigga killed it. x my boy too

[BLKGSXR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg3hS4Ox2Oo

[jjhill]

damn that one just as good as beans and kiss.

[EyeCumInPiece]

The fact that the Lost Boyz is considered "Old School" Makes me feel reallly old

[EyeCumInPiece]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxFh8MJirY

[jjhill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxFh8MJirY

Great shit!

Don't forget about this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYZ_RD--Lpg

[sp fan]

jay z is not old school , wrong thread

[jjhill]

jigga been rapping since 86' first album dropped 96' that's old school to me. anything a decade ago i consider ol school

[EyeCumInPiece]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPxFh8MJirY

Great shit!

Don't forget about this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYZ_RD--Lpg

Thanx.

Definitly a classic.

[BLKGSXR]

jay z is not old school , wrong threadgoogle before making yourself look like a douche :google :peanutbutter

[addicted]

BLXGXSR, I could use your mothers mouth as douche so fuck you and that turtle looking sellout pop music making clown. jay z is not even hip hop he is pop garbage.


jay z is not old school period. its about the music you put out not the day the picked up a mic. 96 is not old school. 86 is considered old school , 88 and a few years after was the golden era so that leaves kane, rakim and krs of old school.

[BLKGSXR]

BLXGXSR, I could use your mothers mouth as douche so fuck you and that turtle looking sellout pop music making clown. jay z is not even hip hop he is pop garbage.


jay z is not old school period. its about the music you put out not the day the picked up a mic. 96 is not old school. 86 is considered old school , 88 and a few years after was the golden era so that leaves kane, rakim and krs of old school.
you need to get glasses...BLK G-S-X-R
:deadhorse
your such a NOOBLET!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/XZIBIT07/JAYZ-STOMPNOOBS.jpg


1986-Present-Underground is rapping still...considered ol'School

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/XZIBIT07/stopdanooblet.jpg

[Quiet Reflections]

Jay-Z isnt Afrika Bambaataa but he has definitely been around long enough to be considered old school

[EyeCumInPiece]

BLXGXSR, I could use your mothers mouth as douche so fuck you and that turtle looking sellout pop music making clown. jay z is not even hip hop he is pop garbage.


jay z is not old school period. its about the music you put out not the day the picked up a mic. 96 is not old school. 86 is considered old school , 88 and a few years after was the golden era so that leaves kane, rakim and krs of old school.

Ummmmm...........so in the year 2019, will '96 be considered old school yet?

[addicted]

old school is not 96, get off this turtle ass looking mofuckers dick already. he is garbage and a sellout

[TomSelis]

Let's go on a little trip

Spoony G ~'79

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtP8yVIrsjE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSkcebOD4uM

Dougie Fresh ~86

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXYqIba5PE8



Ultramagnetic MCs ~'89 (notice the flow change)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAj39ougc5A

[jjhill]

Let's go on a little trip

Spoony G ~'79

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtP8yVIrsjE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSkcebOD4uM

Dougie Fresh ~86

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXYqIba5PE8



Ultramagnetic MCs ~'89 (notice the flow change)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAj39ougc5A


Thats way before my time, but I've actually kicked it with Spoonie Gee, and Ced G from Ultramagentic Mcs a few time as of recent. Both still have their chops

[addicted]

fuck jay z, fuck nas and fuck kanye, fucking jerkoff sellouts making low grade watered down pop cotton candy.

[BLKGSXR]

fuck jay z, fuck nas and fuck kanye, fucking jerkoff sellouts making low grade watered down pop cotton candy.all im hearing is.... :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

[addicted]

facts motherfucker

[EyeCumInPiece]

My opinion on the 3.....

Nas - A Legend. One of the greatest to ever hold the mic

Kanye - Great producer. Ok MC. A lil too soft for my taste.

Jay-Z - Probably the most overrated MC in Hip Hop history.

[hotvegasguy26]

i agree with all three

[BLKGSXR]

facts motherfuckerthat your a crybaby gtfo before someone goes apeshit on you ....

[jjhill]

My opinion on the 3.....

Nas - A Legend. One of the greatest to ever hold the mic

Kanye - Great producer. Ok MC. A lil too soft for my taste.

Jay-Z - Probably the most overrated MC in Hip Hop history.


I agree with you on Nas and Jigga, but Kanye my second favorite MC of all time and one of my favorite producers. His album lyrics are soft, but his mixtapes lyrics come hard. Which is funny, to hear Kanye rapping about guns and stuff like that. He also spit a lot of hard double entendres that might be hard for people to pick up unless they're from Chicago.

Ex. "Got family in the D, kinfolk from Mo-Town. Back in the Chi, them folks ain't from Moe-Town"

[unctrld1]

My opinion on the 3.....

Nas - A Legend. One of the greatest to ever hold the mic

Kanye - Great producer. Ok MC. A lil too soft for my taste.

Jay-Z - Probably the most overrated MC in Hip Hop history.

Jay-Z is overrated? I counter with "Reasonable Doubt." There isn't a more lyrical album than that.

"You cats is home, screaming the fight's on
I'm in the fifteen hundred seats watching Tyson
Same night
Same fight
But one of us cats aint playing right
Ill let you tell it"

[TJT]

I've had this lyric stuck in my head for months and can't remember who did it. it went like this;

"Crack killed Apple Jack
He jumped in but he couldn't jump back
Death lives in the rock house.'

It's circa '84/'85 and it seems to me it was early stuff from the West Coast,but that's all I can recall.

General Kane

Thank you. It's been drivin' me fuckin' crazy. There was a pirate FM station in my neighborhood back then that played the shit out of it.

[addicted]

facts motherfuckerthat your a crybaby gtfo before someone goes apeshit on you ....

eat shit you fucking scumbag. You commercial loving faggot. Jay z fans are just a bunch of biased idiots. Cant even accept dude makes watered down cotton candy pop uncle tom raps. he's a flip flopper, one minutes wants to be grimey next min he wants to sellout on some faggot ass commercial shit with lil wayne. Gimme a fucking break, You cant have it both ways.. dudes garbage and fuck his corny ass fanbase. he's all media hype.

[BLKGSXR]

facts motherfuckerthat your a crybaby gtfo before someone goes apeshit on you ....

eat shit you fucking scumbag. You commercial loving faggot. Jay z fans are just a bunch of biased idiots. Cant even accept dude makes watered down cotton candy pop uncle tom raps. he's a flip flopper, one minutes wants to be grimey next min he wants to sellout on some faggot ass commercial shit with lil wayne. Gimme a fucking break, You cant have it both ways.. dudes garbage and fuck his corny ass fanbase. he's all media hype.addicted your very childish dude learn some Tact then continue posting till then your going to known as a TOOL!

[EyeCumInPiece]

My opinion on the 3.....

Nas - A Legend. One of the greatest to ever hold the mic

Kanye - Great producer. Ok MC. A lil too soft for my taste.

Jay-Z - Probably the most overrated MC in Hip Hop history.

Jay-Z is overrated? I counter with "Reasonable Doubt." There isn't a more lyrical album than that.



Have you ever heard of an album called Illmatic? How about It was Written? Ever heard of an album called The Realness? How about Ready to Die? What about Dirty Weaponry? Or even...... i could go on. Im not saying Reasonable Doubt aint a classic, but according to my ears, its Jay-z's only classic LP.

[addicted]

facts motherfuckerthat your a crybaby gtfo before someone goes apeshit on you ....

eat shit you fucking scumbag. You commercial loving faggot. Jay z fans are just a bunch of biased idiots. Cant even accept dude makes watered down cotton candy pop uncle tom raps. he's a flip flopper, one minutes wants to be grimey next min he wants to sellout on some faggot ass commercial shit with lil wayne. Gimme a fucking break, You cant have it both ways.. dudes garbage and fuck his corny ass fanbase. he's all media hype.addicted your very childish dude learn some Tact then continue posting till then your going to known as a TOOL!

You dont know jackshit about hip hip you lowlife asshole, The tool I am is a sledge hammer beating you down.

[partlycloudy]

thought you guys might wanna check this out.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4905730/Top_500_of_the_GREATEST_Hip-Hop__amp__Rap_Songs_(For_TRUE_Hip-Hop_Fa

[jjhill]

Great Post Partly cloudy, now his a vid for everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFiE-35oG1I 94' classic pac