"Feel the hate"

[Solitary Brother]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxt9HwfPwPo

[JeniferTS]

prime example of what drugs and alcohol can do to you :roll:

[rockabilly]

Straight Edge lifestyle for me.

[Helvis2012]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!

[Danielle Foxx]

Wow! LOL

Then people call me a loser for working in the adult entertainment field... LOL sad sad sad

[Silcc69]

Maybe it's jsut me but we have never had any issues with them compared to the muslim countries. I also don't think they persecute TS like the muslim countries do. I could be wrong but jsut saying though.

[jaycanuck]

Why would he only go to Israel? I'm sure the last time I checked Cairo was part of the world too. Heaven forbid someone go to a muslim nation. These people disturb me.

[Quiet Reflections]

ignorant assholes

[alyssats]

"All i guest/say is I want pussy" lol

by the way so many hot guys in there they need to shag me :actionsmiley

[tstv_lover]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!

$2.8Billion last year, mostly in military aid. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Of course much of this was used up during the destruction of much of Gaza. But that's a topic for the "politics and religion" forum.

It's really scary that such hatred of Obama exists.

[Silcc69]

Hmm I think Bush hatred was a wee bit more eh?

[blckhaze]

Ok we leave they get run over
problem solved


Next?

[thenicerguy]

It is a sad but certain fact that every country has its share of young, cocky, uneducated assholes with a limited world view. Israel is no exception. These guys were the Israeli version of redneck peckerheads from Kentucky and Arkansas.

Luckily, Israel has also given the world great scholars, statesmen, warriors and peacemakers.

These turds are a disgrace to a vibrant nation with a diverse culture (in fact, a Rabbinical student first told me about Dana International. So there.)

Shalom, bitches.

[SemperFiGuy]

Obama's foreign policy IS fucked up, as is his economic policy. The guy is a total piece of shit, but so many bet the farm on him, that their is no way for them to save face and call him for what he is.

I can't say the Republicans have anything MUCH better to offer. Their has been pretty much one good Republican Prez, and that's Reagan. Nixon maybe, but his paranoia ruined him (he had some legit reasons though, they WERE out to get him).

What we have to choose from in this country is radical leftist, and leftist light, neither works. The bright city on a hill is going dim fast. Europe is a shit hole, and we have gone left of them.

Our enemies will never like us, and our friends will always resent us. Imagine you live in the trailer park, and someone buys up 50 lots and builds a huge mansion. They drive by in their Beemers, beep and wave at you, go swim in their pool when your AC is out. Do you like them, and feel glad for them. Some of us would, but a good number would be resentful, skeptical, critical. That's U.S. and European relations in a nutshell. Their way leads to dirty faced little kids without full bellies, where meat is a luxury, our way leads to throwing away more meat than the average European eats in a year.

Now we are sinking to their level, and they are a bit happy to see it, but at the same time the overflow of wealth onto their plates is drying up, so they are skittish. Hmmm, the dilema.

Bush! Need I say more. Good? Bad? If you think he's bad, their is NO way it could ever be proven to you otherwise. But he wasn't as bad as they made him out to be. He could have cured cancer, aids, and given everyone a million dollars in gold, and the media/pop culture would have continued to slam him. Of course, he didn't! lol Not even close, but he DID manage to keep us from being attacked again, something that Obama will not be able to say, trust me, I know after 20 years in military intelligence. We will be hit within 6 months, and it will make us wish for 9/11.

Obama has managed to orchestrate a complete brain drain on our intelligence resources. No one wants to be on board when the shit hits the fan.

Our enemies are not reasonable, they are not the way they are because we made them that way, they are simply murderous pieces of shit, and the only way to win against them is to kill them. PERIOD, END OF STORY! I've personally had the privelage of sending a few to Allah and their 99 Virgins. Hope they are pimply fat assed ones who can't even clean their own ass without the aid of a car wash.

We have the ability to manufacture something called a neutron radiological device, and they have it so perfected that one city block can be blasted with the equiviliant of 200,000 X-rays, while the next city block gets nothing. It was in fact developed with Israel in mind. It's time to mass produce those mother fuckers, give Israel about 1000 of them, equip Japan with 5 squadron of F-22 Raptors, and basically build up the enemy of our enemies, and let someone else do the fighting for us. This would send both Korea, and the terrorist organizations running away with their tails between their legs.

Force, power, and the willingness to use it is the best proponent of peace their is.

[russtafa]

muslims in australia . since the goverment let these shits in they have been nothing but trouble fulling up our jails ,hateing australians ,rapeing australian women ,dealing drugs. they should all be sent back to the scumy heaps of sand where they come from and all the do gooders with them

[SemperFiGuy]

And ya know, why do so many have to live up to all the stereotypes of being _________ (insert whatever). Just because I love to suck dicks attached to gorgeous transexual, am willing to take them in my ass, and actually enjoy it, would be called gay by many (who cares, I am what I am, but I don't like bold faced all out boys, so I think I'm not), does not mean I have to be a cool aid drinking leftest lib. I have a brain, can see when something works, can study our history, and see what our founding fathers intended. AND SO CAN YOU!

The biggest defence of what we are is a limited Republic without the authority to tell us what we can, and can not fucking do, that is rolling in prosperity due to lack of taxation, and some tough love on the poor so they will get off their fucking asses and fend for themselves. THAT'S THE REAL AMERICA, the one that used to shine. Where we took care of each other, instead of being numbed out with 999 chanels of pure shit and the internet, while the gova ment sent out it's checks. We were GREAT, when we were what we were, and will will not be GREAT doing what we are doing.

[Alyssa87]

muslims in australia . since the goverment let these shits in they have been nothing but trouble fulling up our jails ,hateing australians ,rapeing australian women ,dealing drugs. they should all be sent back to the scumy heaps of sand where they come from and all the do gooders with them


Its their imaginary friend telling them that everything they do is justified in the name of him.

[SemperFiGuy]

1st of all, I have a bunch of good loving caring awsome Muslim friends, THAT is the norm in their culture, they are everything we USED to be, family taking care of family, making sacrafices in order to succeed. The bad ones are 15% of the overall. I'd n ever group them all in one box. But that 15% is A LOT! Amazingly, if we WERE stronger, the other 85% would come out of the woodwork and stand up. But they can't, they are scared, and they should be, we have a history of starting shit and not backing it up due to political reasons.

Iraq was a different Iraq back in 91. When they ordered us to stand down (a big mistake) we were close enough to Bagdad to see the city lights. As we pulled back out, the Republican guard was right behind us, killing all those were were prepared to accept our liberation openly. I know, I heard the gunshots myself. I had parents trying to hand me their babies so I could take them somewhere safe, and I had to force them to take them back. I heard people screaming as they were mowed down.

I have Collin Powell to thank for those fucking nightmares!

[Alyssa87]

WOW.. God is good

[flabbybody]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!

the Israelis have this attitude that massive economic and military US aid is a God given right and of course American Jews show blind obedience to Pro Israeli rhetoric. To hear those racist Zioist clowns verbally run down Obama in a ghetto disrespectful tone pisses me off.

But the fact is the USA and Israel have a common enemy in the radical Islamic terrorists. so that makes us uneasy allies

[arnie666]

So you go out on the town and stick a microphone in some drunks face and ask him about politics , in front of his mates and he talks a bit of shit about the messiah. What does this prove exactly?

If you done the same in London went to enough pubs and asked enough peoples views on say the French Iam sure you would get some interesting Alcohol fueled replies. Some excellent material for say a video of 'hate' to put on you tube for instance.

I went to Israel for a football match and to be honest they treated us far better than some other countries in Europe do . There was no trouble from us lot either because they took no liberties with us because we were English football supporters like alot of coppers do and it was one of the best places we have gone. Great people couldn't do enough for us.

[BLKGSXR]

muslims in australia . since the goverment let these shits in they have been nothing but trouble fulling up our jails ,hateing australians ,rapeing australian women ,dealing drugs. they should all be sent back to the scumy heaps of sand where they come from and all the do gooders with themso im guessing you werent the smartest one in your family...Islam pertaining to a religious sect.Such as christianity...not saying they are alike in beliefs but you cant say such bigotry things about what people believe in...Maybe if you were to edit your post of Islamic radical you wont be given a lecture like so....

[flabbybody]

I know there will be aunts and uncles in my family who will run down Obama and say his Middle East speech was pro Arab and anti-Jew. For these people there is no point in having a reasonable debate. They don't realize their modern hatred for Arabs because of their Islamic religion is the same kind of rank disdaine Germans had for the Jews in the years leading up to the holocaust
It's sad to see the YOUNG Israelis harbor all the hostility. You'd thing they'd be the ones to realize peace is better than fighting for decades like their dumb parents and grandparents

[BLKGSXR]

I know there will be aunts and uncles in my family who will run down Obama and say his Middle East speech was pro Arab and anti-Jew. For these people there is no point in having a reasonable debate. They don't realize their modern hatred for Arabs because of their Islamic religion is the same kind of rank disdaine Germans had for the Jews in the years leading up to the holocust
It's sad to see the YOUNG Israelis harbor all the hostility. You'd thing they'd be the ones to realize peace is better than fighting for decades like their dumb parents and grandparentswell spoken flabby... its an age thing some people have good morals at young ages some people are just that hateful all their life.

[russtafa]

i hope america takes all muslim imigrants you i notice not many other countrys hold up their hands especially russia .its great how every one starts putting me down for my veiws .i hope you people go and live in those beautiful arab countrys you deserve it

[hippifried]

WOW.. God is good
Yeah, She's okay.

[Helvis2012]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!

the Israelis have this attitude that massive economic and military US aid is a God given right and of course American Jews show blind obedience to Pro Israeli rhetoric. To hear those racist Zioist clowns verbally run down Obama in a ghetto disrespectful tone pisses me off.

But the fact is the USA and Israel have a common enemy in the radical Islamic terrorists. so that makes us uneasy allies


True.

[fitz207]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!
:claps :claps :claps :claps

[fitz207]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!

the Israelis have this attitude that massive economic and military US aid is a God given right and of course American Jews show blind obedience to Pro Israeli rhetoric. To hear those racist Zioist clowns verbally run down Obama in a ghetto disrespectful tone pisses me off.

But the fact is the USA and Israel have a common enemy in the radical Islamic terrorists. so that makes us uneasy allies
Excellent points.

[fitz207]

I know there will be aunts and uncles in my family who will run down Obama and say his Middle East speech was pro Arab and anti-Jew. For these people there is no point in having a reasonable debate. They don't realize their modern hatred for Arabs because of their Islamic religion is the same kind of rank disdaine Germans had for the Jews in the years leading up to the holocaust
It's sad to see the YOUNG Israelis harbor all the hostility. You'd thing they'd be the ones to realize peace is better than fighting for decades like their dumb parents and grandparents
:claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps

[fitz207]

.....And these are the same bunch of assholes who would go nuts if anyone disputes how many people died in the holocaust.

[notdrunk]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!
:claps :claps :claps :claps

So how did Israel survive until the early 1970s? Israel existed for 25 years before the US decided to help them. We started to truly support the Israelis when Israel was about to get wiped off the map by the Arabs (the Soviets gave tons of aid to Egypt and company for the Yom Kippur War) and there was a fear that Israel would go nuclear.

Lets ignore that the US gives more than a billion dollars a year to Egypt for their military to play nice with Israel. :roll:

The US stopped giving economic aid to Israel.

[tstv_lover]

So how did Israel survive until the early 1970s? Israel existed for 25 years before the US decided to help them. We started to truly support the Israelis when Israel was about to get wiped off the map by the Arabs (the Soviets gave tons of aid to Egypt and company for the Yom Kippur War) and there was a fear that Israel would go nuclear.

Lets ignore that the US gives more than a billion dollars a year to Egypt for their military to play nice with Israel. :roll:

The US stopped giving economic aid to Israel.

Are you sure you're "notdrunk"?

It's surprisingly difficult to obtain absolute figures on US aid for Israel since 1948, but there are some sources:

This report for congress is the most thorough, also the longest! The summary is worth reading to understand the different aid categories.

http://pdf.dec.org/pdf_docs/Pcaab191.pdf

(BTW, the US has been providing economic and military aid to Israel since 1948, however you're right that this increased dramatically since 1968)

This link provides a current understanding of US aid and recipients. The aim has shifted from straight economic to more military aid but points out that US plans to give Israel $30b in military aid alone over the next 10 years.

http://www.parade.com/news/intelligence-report/archive/who-gets-us-foreign-aid.html

As for economic aid, we need to remember that Israel is a pretty wealthy country by international standards. The UN positions Israel between Germany and Greece in terms of GDP per capita:

http://hdrstats.undp.org/indicators/5.html

It's amazing to realise that Israel, together with Egypt and Jordan, continue to receive over one-third of all US overseas aid, while impoverished countries in Africa are not on the radar.

[notdrunk]

This link provides a current understanding of US aid and recipients. The aim has shifted from straight economic to more military aid but points out that US plans to give Israel $30b in military aid alone over the next 10 years.

You are correct in that Israel is going to get $30b in military aid over ten years; however, for receiving this new aid, Israel will no longer get economic aid and the aid cannot be used for non-essential material. Additionally, majority of the aid must be used to get American products.

If the United States gave Egypt $3b a year for its military, the United States would spend more on the Egyptian military than the Egyptian government. In fact, the United States subsidizes the Egyptian military more than the Israeli military. The United States subsidizes 60%+ of the Egyptian military compared to subsidizing 19% of the Israeli military. The 60%+ has actually increased since 2002. Some websites say it is actually 80% now.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3679025 (Israeli military budget number for 2009 at the bottom)

http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/militarysumfolder/egypt.html?formAction=297&contentId=196 (old numbers because it is hard to find update budget information)

The Israeli military budget is larger than a number of Arab nations (e.g., Egypt) because the Israelis favor Western technology and the Arabs tend to favor Russian/Chinese technology. Western technology is more expensive than Russian/Chinese technology. So, for example, Israeli military budget cannot be low as Egypt's military budget.

[Helvis2012]

This link provides a current understanding of US aid and recipients. The aim has shifted from straight economic to more military aid but points out that US plans to give Israel $30b in military aid alone over the next 10 years.

You are correct in that Israel is going to get $30b in military aid over ten years; however, for receiving this new aid, Israel will no longer get economic aid and the aid cannot be used for non-essential material. Additionally, majority of the aid must be used to get American products.

If the United States gave Egypt $3b a year for its military, the United States would spend more on the Egyptian military than the Egyptian government. In fact, the United States subsidizes the Egyptian military more than the Israeli military. The United States subsidizes 60%+ of the Egyptian military compared to subsidizing 19% of the Israeli military. The 60%+ has actually increased since 2002. Some websites say it is actually 80% now.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3679025 (Israeli military budget number for 2009 at the bottom)

http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/militarysumfolder/egypt.html?formAction=297&contentId=196 (old numbers because it is hard to find update budget information)

The Israeli military budget is larger than a number of Arab nations (e.g., Egypt) because the Israelis favor Western technology and the Arabs tend to favor Russian/Chinese technology. Western technology is more expensive than Russian/Chinese technology. So, for example, Israeli military budget cannot be low as Egypt's military budget.



You're funny.

[notdrunk]

You're funny.

Funny because I disproved the notion that the United States subsidizes Israel's whole existence? Israel would take a hit in their military budget; however, it would not be as damaging if the United States stopped giving military aid to Egypt. The Israeli government has increased their military budget throughout the years and it would help offset some of the damages if the US stop giving military aid.

[Helvis2012]

You're funny.

Funny because I disproved the notion that the United States subsidizes Israel's whole existence? Israel would take a hit in their military budget; however, it would not be as damaging if the United States stopped giving military aid to Egypt. The Israeli government has increased their military budget throughout the years and it would help offset some of the damages if the US stop giving military aid.


No, not quite. Did you bother to read what you're responding to?
I didn't think so.........and it shows.

Thanks for the lesson, professor. :roll:

[notdrunk]

No, not quite. Did you bother to read what you're responding to?
I didn't think so.........and it shows.

Thanks for the lesson, professor. :roll:

No, it shows that you failed to read my posts. I said truly support the Israelis. I didn't deny that the United States didn't support them before the Yom Kippur War; however, the support was marginal and it was mostly loans.

$30b in ten years amounts to $3b a year. Their 2009 military budget is $13.1b. The figure includes the $2.5b in military aid from the US. So, $10.6b out of the $13.1b is from the Israeli government or from some other source. If you use division, that 2.5B amounts to 19% of the Israeli military budget. For ten years, they will be basically getting $3b in military aid and no economic aid. Furthermore, there are strings tied to the aid and those strings might prevent the Israelis from using all the aid. Once the ten years are over, their military aid will stay at $3b a year or decrease to $2.4b or $1.8b a year. Economic aid is official over.

The Israeli government cannot substantially decrease their military budget to the point where American military aid would be paramount for their survival because, as I said, they favor Western technologies and they run their military more like a Western military (e.g., decent wages for their soldiers). They have other sources of revenue (e.g., taxes) to support them. The aid is an added bonus to their budget because of their support for the Camp David Accords.

:roll: :roll:

[Helvis2012]

No, not quite. Did you bother to read what you're responding to?
I didn't think so.........and it shows.

Thanks for the lesson, professor. :roll:

No, it shows that you failed to read my posts. I said truly support the Israelis. I didn't deny that the United States didn't support them before the Yom Kippur War; however, the support was marginal and it was mostly loans.

$30b in ten years amounts to $3b a year. Their 2009 military budget is $13.1b. The figure includes the $2.5b in military aid from the US. So, $10.6b out of the $13.1b is from the Israeli government or from some other source. If you use division, that 2.5B amounts to 19% of the Israeli military budget. For ten years, they will be basically getting $3b in military aid and no economic aid. Furthermore, there are strings tied to the aid and those strings might prevent the Israelis from using all the aid. Once the ten years are over, their military aid will stay at $3b a year or decrease to $2.4b or $1.8b a year. Economic aid is official over.

The Israeli government cannot substantially decrease their military budget to the point where American military aid would be paramount for their survival because, as I said, they favor Western technologies and they run their military more like a Western military (e.g., decent wages for their soldiers). They have other sources of revenue (e.g., taxes) to support them. The aid is an added bonus to their budget because of their support for the Camp David Accords.



Dude, relax....and do some more research.
:roll: :roll:

[Solitary Brother]

You're funny.

Funny because I disproved the notion that the United States subsidizes Israel's whole existence? Israel would take a hit in their military budget; however, it would not be as damaging if the United States stopped giving military aid to Egypt. The Israeli government has increased their military budget throughout the years and it would help offset some of the damages if the US stop giving military aid.

You need to educate yourself a bit more on the subject.
Even prominent "neo-cons" say Israel could not exist with out America.
We the United States were responsible for the state of Israel coming into being and we have helped them since the beginning.
Im not saying its good....Im not saying its bad.
Also without America no Jews would even exist right now....we are the ones responsible for saving them from extermination via Hitler.
The thought that Obama is anti-jew is just laughable....all his top advisors are Jewish!
I wish he were more Pro-Black......
When you look at this video you can see how unreasonable some people are.

[q1a2z3]

Never satisfied. The only reason Israel exists is because the US subsidizes their whole existence. Maybe it's time to let these assholes begin relying solely ion themselves. We need health care, education opportunities among many other programs we could afford if we weren't sending billions to these ungrateful fucks.

In any case, the people in the video are not only ignorant but they all seem to be racist pigs.

Your tax dollars at work......bravo!

That was a great video. Obama is a bigot. He don't like Jews and he is a islam cult member.

UN resolution 181 provided a two state plan and was cited by the Israel and Palestine declarations of independence. The UN vote was 33 to 10 for resolution 181. Most of the countries of the world wanted a Jewish state. Most of them hoped the arabs would kill them off. Even a large number of Americans hated Jews in 1948. Roosevelt wouldn't let a ship full of Jews land in America during WWII!!!

Cutting off Israel will result in them going nuclear and wiping out many camel-jockey states. Though this would warm my heart and leave a permanent smile on my face, it would be better to get the two state solution in place.

American has health care. We don't need "free" health care. Canada and Great Britain are bankrupt due to "free" health care. I just hope SRS is never paid for with my tax dollars. As for education, it's really cheap to go to school in America. When I was in public school I saw many people who wanted to spend their time partying (e.g. smoking, drinking, drugs, etc...) and could not careless for education.

Tax payers should demand the following for education benefit:

1. If you can get accepted to an accredited education institution the government will pay 100% for your books, labs, activities, classes, computer, and even a stipen so you can do school fulltime.

2. You sign a paper with the IRS to pay an extra 1% in tax rate over your lifetime to compensate the government for the help.

3. The extra 1% kicks in when you leave school.





Stopping all foreign aid has been a great idea for a long time. I would stop all AIDS drugs, medicine, food, etc. going everywhere. Stopping the export of American cigarettes would really fuck up many countries out there that really need it.


obama = vagina

When you stand close to obama you can't hear the ocean but you can smell the fish!!!

[notdrunk]

You need to educate yourself a bit more on the subject.
Even prominent "neo-cons" say Israel could not exist with out America.
We the United States were responsible for the state of Israel coming into being and we have helped them since the beginning.
Im not saying its good....Im not saying its bad.

A number of prominent "neo-cons" have their head up their ass. Israel can exist without America giving them free aid. We didn't start giving them free aid until the late 60s. Before the late 60s, the aid was mostly economic loans that had to be paid back. We gave the Arabs the same type of aid.

[Helvis2012]

You're funny.

Funny because I disproved the notion that the United States subsidizes Israel's whole existence? Israel would take a hit in their military budget; however, it would not be as damaging if the United States stopped giving military aid to Egypt. The Israeli government has increased their military budget throughout the years and it would help offset some of the damages if the US stop giving military aid.

You need to educate yourself a bit more on the subject.
Even prominent "neo-cons" say Israel could not exist with out America.
We the United States were responsible for the state of Israel coming into being and we have helped them since the beginning.
Im not saying its good....Im not saying its bad.
Also without America no Jews would even exist right now....we are the ones responsible for saving them from extermination via Hitler.
The thought that Obama is anti-jew is just laughable....all his top advisors are Jewish!
I wish he were more Pro-Black......
When you look at this video you can see how unreasonable some people are.


Neocon?
What a joke.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Try to read books that have footnotes.....duhhhhhhhhhh


:roll:


But hey, thanks for the laugh.

[TommyFoxtrot]

You need to educate yourself a bit more on the subject.
Even prominent "neo-cons" say Israel could not exist with out America.
We the United States were responsible for the state of Israel coming into being and we have helped them since the beginning.
Im not saying its good....Im not saying its bad.

A number of prominent "neo-cons" have their head up their ass. Israel can exist without America giving them free aid. We didn't start giving them free aid until the late 60s. Before the late 60s, the aid was mostly economic loans that had to be paid back. We gave the Arabs the same type of aid.


So maybe we should stop giving them Aid.

[notdrunk]

So maybe we should stop giving them Aid.

Somewhat tricky due to the Camp David Accords.