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arnie666
03-04-2009, 10:29 PM
"March 3 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Senator Edward Kennedy is to be
given an honory British knighthood for his services to U.S.-U.K.
relations and his work for peace in Northern Ireland, Prime
Minister Gordon Brown’s office said.
Brown will announce the award in a speech to both houses of
Congress in Washington tomorrow, his Downing Street office said."

I think a knighthood for the Green job Cpl who stood up to him at a VCP in the 70's IN Northern Ireland would sound an awful lot better.

Oh, and a proper investigation into Chappaquiddick (sp?)

I actually find this really fcuking offensive.

The whole Kennedy clan are Fenian supporting scum.

An honorary knighthood for an misogynistic, apologist for
terrorists, whose past has been tainted by scandal and allegations of
witness intimidation and whose livelihood owes much to nepotism. How
transparently New Labour.

This is all about the one eyed porridge wog (Gordon Brown) wanting to get right up Obamas arsehole , after all Brown blamed you lot for all our financial problems and also claimed he saved the world. I don't blame President obama for snubbing him.

As for Ted Kennedy HM should run him through with her investiature sword.

thx1138
03-05-2009, 06:15 AM
I wonder if the US president bestows a high honor title to British citizens for their "humanitarian" work. Tony B'liar was awarded something, if I recall. What gives the British monarch the right to interfere in the US?

arnie666
03-05-2009, 08:25 AM
I wonder if the US president bestows a high honor title to British citizens for their "humanitarian" work. Tony B'liar was awarded something, if I recall. What gives the British monarch the right to interfere in the US?

It is because the Queen is in fact high lizard, and the royal family is in actual fact in league with other powerful families in the US, all shape changing lizards. If I were you lad I'd put that tin foil hat on and go and hide in a bunker.

In all seriousness, read some on British politics , and you will see it is the elected Prime Minister who instructs the Queen who she can award these titles too.Thats why such muppets as Bono get knighthoods.

trish
03-05-2009, 09:36 PM
Bill Gates was given an honorary knighthood, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3428673.stm .

Also Sidney Poitier.

The United States also honors non-citizens in various ways; e.g. http://www.america.gov/st/hr-english/2008/March/20080310164731liameruoy0.1443292.html

I’m sorry you’re in such a tizzy over the honorary Knighting of Senator Ted Kennedy. Sounds like you got screwed up the ass really bad. Take two aspirin and perhaps you’ll feel better in a few days.

thx1138
03-08-2009, 06:17 AM
@arnie: I believe the PM PROPOSES the ones who are worthy of receiving a title but Her Majesty makes the final decision. After all She IS the commander in chief of the British military. PM's come and go but Her Majesty is ALWAYS there.

thx1138
03-08-2009, 06:21 AM
@ Trish - assuming for the moment your last post was directed at me (hard to tell) I could care less how about WHO gets a title from Elizabeth Regina. I'm interested matters of protocol and hierarchy.

thx1138
03-08-2009, 06:30 AM
@ trish: re link: They got honorable mention and a small stipend but NO title approaching anywhere near knighthood. Rice was only secretary of state. Why couldn't bush as head of state at least attend if not actually bestow? Her Majesty did not shirk Her responsibilities. I guess the reason I'm bringing all this up is trying to find out where, in the organization chart of the western world, the POTUS and the head of the British royal stand in relationship with one another (pecking order).

trish
03-08-2009, 07:36 PM
I must agree, I don't give a damn either about who is offered an honorary Knighthood or who isn't. I confess, I'm not much interested in the protocol either.

As I understand it, Sen. Kennedy is being awarded the honorary Knighthood for his work in helping Great Britain and Northern Ireland arrive at an equitable peace agreement.
I am somewhat curious as to why you would characterize the award for recognition of past services rendered as interfering. With what exactly is the Queen interfering?

hippifried
03-09-2009, 09:29 PM
@ trish: re link: They got honorable mention and a small stipend but NO title approaching anywhere near knighthood. Rice was only secretary of state. Why couldn't bush as head of state at least attend if not actually bestow? Her Majesty did not shirk Her responsibilities. I guess the reason I'm bringing all this up is trying to find out where, in the organization chart of the western world, the POTUS and the head of the British royal stand in relationship with one another (pecking order).We don't have nobility by bloodline. America was founded on the rejection of "the right of kings". We hand out medals & awards for service, but we don't grant titles of nobility. No one in public service to the US can accept any such award from a foreign country without permission of the Congress. As long as the folks onCapitol Hill say it's ok, there's no problem with the Queen of England saying "thanks Teddy" in her own quaint way.
this is the last clause in Article I section 9:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

trish
03-11-2009, 03:46 AM
According to the ever fickle Wikipedia, "Originally, knights or nobles were mounted warriors who swore allegiance to their sovereign and promised to fight for him in exchange for an allocation of land (usually together with serfs living there)."

I can see now why the reservations. We wouldn't want Senator Kennedy putting on armor, mounting a steed, swearing allegiance to the British Queen and fighting her wars for her, all for a slice of prime real estate...though it is amusing to contemplate :)