women say if a guy cannot clock difference between a ts &

[tsbrenda]

women say if a guy cannot clock difference between a ts & gg he's gay .I say that there plenty of people who will not always get it right especially if you are not expecting it or you have no knowledge of the things being done to enhance the figures of a ts. just look at the shows jerry springer and maury povich and you will see that many get it wrong

[Ecstatic]

If anything, I'd expect a gay man to clock a ts more often than a str8 man will because he's more attuned to the male body.

[TomSelis]

Alright, I'll probably open a big can of worms here, but I'm TomSelis and it's what I do.

I don't think being able to clock a tranny makes you anything. There are very few trannies that look like a GG. Sometimes trannies look better than GG's but unnaturally so(that's a good thing). That right there should clue a man in that something is not natural. Some girls look good, I'm not going to name names because I'll leave someone out. I still believe that if you can't tell the difference between a 6' tall woman and a 6' tall tranny something is wrong with you. You're lying to yourself.

Now, when they are shorter, for some reason some girls tend to blend in better. I think Mega said this, you can see the man in some girls. Some girls you can see the boy. There's a difference there, a big difference. Some girls have big thick veins in their arms or guns as big as mine, that's a man Maury!

[Tanabata]

Better to just live your life without worrying what "some women' or "some men" think. Find the people you groove with and groove, it's all just skin anyway.

[canihavu]

Better to just live your life without worrying what "some women' or "some men" think. Find the people you groove with and groove, it's all just skin anyway.

Real talk...

[Brideshead]

Better to just live your life without worrying what "some women' or "some men" think. Find the people you groove with and groove, it's all just skin anyway.
Well written. I agree.

[Brideshead]

Better to just live your life without worrying what "some women' or "some men" think. Find the people you groove with and groove, it's all just skin anyway.
Well written. I agree.

[Brideshead]

Not all transexual women are clockable, and even if they are, I don't care. What is the point of this discussion?

[Tom_Brady]

Not all transexual women are clockable, and even if they are, I don't care. What is the point of this discussion?

well said..i don't care about anyone being 'clockable'

[MacShreach]

Not all transexual women are clockable, and even if they are, I don't care. What is the point of this discussion?

Well it beats some of the utter crap on here just now....Listen, it's obvious nonsense about not being able to spot a TS making a man gay. I mean that is just fucking puerile, and the kind of cheap sensationalist garbage that tabloid television revels in. It's utterly meaningless.

I agree, Tom, big-boned trannies over six foot may be more clockable but how many GG women have you met of that height? I've met a few and they were all pretty big boned too. I certainly have met tall g-girls that if you were to put them beside some of the tall t-girls, most folk would just not be sure. The giveaways are well known, the big brow, lantern jaw etc but lots of t-girls don't have and plenty g-girls do have these features. And none of this takes account of the age at which a t-girl starts taking feminising hormones, the extent of surgery she has had to remove previous masculine looks, or her natural physical type. But Tom is right, a tendency towards petite is one of the parameters we use.

However a lot of this is about context, as someone pointed out. If someone like Alexia Nogueira or Yasmin Rios (and I'm just grabbing names) waited on you at the local diner I promise you would not have a fucking scoobie. Get real.

And another thing: Ever been to Thailand? Western men can, maybe, get about 30% of kathoey when they first arrive. The other 70% are laughing their cocks off because they know the farang ain't got a clue. After two weeks the radar is tuned in and you'll get, I don't know, three-quarters. Maybe. But there is one quarter you will never get, unless maybe you spend a really long time living there. That is partly because the Thai body type is already small, slender and delicate to western eyes. And take any one of that original 70% and walk her down a street in London, Paris or New York and nobody will clock her, nobody at all.

So where does that leave your tabloid TV hosts? Queer as nine-dollar bills, by their own definition.

[Trogdor]

The Chicks who say about guys not being tell apart a tgirl and ggirl......well, g-girls......start LOOKING like girls for a change. I see alot of real manly looking women around where I live; you know, butchy hair ( and I mean short, sloppy looking hair, not the haley barrie kinda short hair, which can be cute) body is shaped like a square, wearing manly clothes all the time, pretty much looking like dudes.

Start looking like a girl, and maybe we'll notice. :P :lol:

[Vicki Richter]

Not all transexual women are clockable, and even if they are, I don't care. What is the point of this discussion?

well said..i don't care about anyone being 'clockable'

Wow! Tom Brady!!! I'm a huge fan of your commercials. Welcome to the forums.

[brickcitybrother]

If anything, I'd expect a gay man to clock a ts more often than a str8 man will because he's more attuned to the male body.

I'm of the same opinion

[TomSelis]

Not all transexual women are clockable, and even if they are, I don't care. What is the point of this discussion?

well said..i don't care about anyone being 'clockable'I agree. Tom? Actually, no one cares about your self-perceived "clocking" skills. But . is back. Don't you two have alot of catching up to do?

(Tom wants to scream, "Stab yourself!", at me right now. :lol:)

That wasn't me, so yes STAB YOURSELF!!!


and while you're at it....

[tsntx]

the only reason ggs think its so easy to clock a ts is b/c they r soooooooooooo bitter when we walk in the room ... better dressed, better bodies, better handbags, better boyfriends they start tearing us apart and picking out flaws until all the "flaws" add up to "man" then they think its obvious when it literally took them all that hassle to do so

[Slither]

I've dated 2 transsexuals who were passable enough to the point that when I brought them in public places or around friends, they were never clocked..... at least my friends never told me if they did know :)

[tsntx]

ROTFL arianna i think i love you but in a NO SEX kinda way :D

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

the only reason ggs think its so easy to clock a ts is b/c they r soooooooooooo bitter when we walk in the room ... better dressed, better bodies, better handbags, better boyfriends they start tearing us apart and picking out flaws until all the "flaws" add up to "man" then they think its obvious when it literally took them all that hassle to do so

Youve hit it all in the right spots yet again! Kudos!! :wink: Genetic girls like that are everywhere you go..clubs, bar, shopping malls, restaurant, your neighborhood, online etc..They have nothing good to say but instead say stuffs out of being plain insecure of themselves. LOL.

~Kisses.

HTG

[tsntx]

agreed... thnx and bows

[Brideshead]

The two of you look better than many ggs I've seen. I think many ggs are envious.

[tsntx]

which is what we said ... thnx

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

The two of you look better than many ggs I've seen. I think many ggs are envious.

Thanks Brideshead.. :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

[TomSelis]

Not all transexual women are clockable, and even if they are, I don't care. What is the point of this discussion?

well said..i don't care about anyone being 'clockable'I agree. Tom? Actually, no one cares about your self-perceived "clocking" skills. But . is back. Don't you two have alot of catching up to do?

(Tom wants to scream, "Stab yourself!", at me right now. :lol:)

That wasn't me, so yes STAB YOURSELF!!!


and while you're at it....Tom, such a hostile attitude. That's twice now that you've told me to stab myself. And then, you even implied that you want me to blow you? I thought you were a regular trick for some of the other girls on the forum anyway. BTW, I never suggested that I was quoting you there. But I did address you, because it was you who started the thread.

Now I need to speak to my attorney about what exactly, hypothetically, constitutes aiding and abetting a suicide.

And I think someone needs a hug. Tom...? ;)

Whatever Frankentranny.

I don't have a hostile attitude, can't take my jokes keep my name out of your mouth, it's that simple. I didn't imply you wanted to blow me, I said get off my dick. Usually you say fairly intelligent things, but when you start thinking about me you get stupid. I'm not bothering you, never have, but you say the dumbest shit.

Trick? That shows you DON'T think, because I'm not a trick. You've never seen me participate in any "Biggest dick" or "What's this girl's number?" threads. I didn't start this thread. Like I said before, reading is fundamental. In your case, just mental. You saw my post and your dick got hard. You felt froggy and jumped.

Don't be mad because you disagree with what I say, because again, I could give a shit whether you agree or not. Just keep it civil and stop acting like you're twelve.

[MacShreach]

The two of you look better than many ggs I've seen. I think many ggs are envious.

Cosign with bells on

[MacShreach]

Tom, take you boyfriend's cock out of your ear and listen good. You crawled out from under whatever non-gettin' laid rock, and wrote ME. You put yourself on MY radar. And what your pathetic ass decided to privately say to me was that Harajuku and I should leave this forum. Which, I will assume, is because you are an ass-kissing trick of .'s. When I called you out on this, your mastubatory fantasy-riddled brain decided to wish me death. Nice one. Just like ., your mouth writes checks that your mind can't cash. So, motherfucker: YOU can slowly rot with fucking stomach cancer for all I care. You are another faceless shitbag who's only value to anyone is that you're a sexually frustrated closet tranny chaser with an income to piss away. Just another geek w/ Matrix references and dumb slogans on your mind. And obviously a no-show, from what we learned in earlier posts. So do me a big favor, blue face: eat shit and die.

Yeah, go for it babe! He PM'd you to say that? Really? Give him hell. Tom Selis you are a certifiable arse! Shit Arianna I though I could write a decent put-down but that was just rockin' honey. Have a a virtual drink on me. :lol:

[Brideshead]

Would someone please tell me what's going on here?

[TomSelis]

So you're a liar too, Arianna? I thought you were just crazy.

Here's the deal. When she got kicked off of .'s board she brought that bullshit over here. So I PM'ed her asking her what was going on. She told me. Harajuku misunderstood something I wrote, but we cleared that up. Then Snozola here posted exactly what I wrote for all to see, which was nothing but my question (SHE GOT ME!), you can look that one up. Then she started taking little potshots. Now she's making up more shit about me asking her to leave, and which isn't true. I guess she's ASSuming that I'm a . fan because I got at her, but really I got at her for being a dumbass.

ruairidh: Stay out of grown folks business and stop kissing ass.

So Arianna, post my PM to you telling you to leave.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

No no TomSelis..In fairness to Arianna. When she got kicked off from "the other site"..she went thru the same thing as me. Arianna's comments were deleted (Like mines and the others..As If trying to censor freedom of speech) and only .'s stayed. In which if you think about it was biased and one sided.

Other members read the whole thing about . reading members private messages which at any way you look at it is wrong. And has caused quite an uproar with members of her site. You should know this as youre a member there arent you? People threatened to leave her site. So alot have spoken up yet none was deleted because of the simple fact . is trying to save face from the embarrasment.

I dont think the mods here at HA or Allanah even does that or even bothers to. Its invasion of privacy. Sure It could all be her SITE. Thats a known fact. But like with other sites such as Adultfriendfinder, alt.com, gay.com, yahoo personal and yahoo email, aol, hotmail or gmail..Noone of the people there nor employees are privillaged to read their members/subscribers private messages i.e. emails of their members. Its called common sense, tact and respect!

Arianna didnt bring drama over here..she read about a post in mixedprettyboy's thread about . bragging/threatening to expose whom mixedprettyboy was corresponding to at tgp. Afterwhich Arianna saw . took potshots at me on Allanah's thread when I went to go compliment Allanah and render her support for the case she has in court againts SPLASH. I mean come on, . does that to aloe of people on here from Vickie R, Allanah, tsntx, me, Arianna, Jenna to the guys like chefmike, j, mixedprettyboy, blackadder etc. Should tell you something.

The act alone to deviate from the issue which Allanah started was uncalled for and disrespectful. I never mentioned names but . just assumed I was refering to her and decided she better reply back at me. I guess that only showed whos hungry for attention.

Im not arguing with you (muchless with . or to even warrant a response from her) but merely trying to make you understand which end of the stick is up so to speak.

I myself did not understood some of your comments like *smdh* on one thread where ex-tgp peeps were speaking out. But we've cleared some of it up like you said.

I guess it would be saving everyone alot time had we known first what transpired instead of just making comments on issues we hardly know about. Thats seems to be the cause of misunderstandings here.

Just hope this somewhat clarify things.

~Kisses.

HTG

[MacShreach]

ruairidh: Stay out of grown folks business and stop kissing ass.



Fuck right off, cunto. I'll kiss any arse I like, and I'll kick yours any time I care to.

Oh, and BTW, if you don't want people commenting on your petty little rows, conduct them somewhere other than a public forum.

Nitwit.

[TomSelis]

So you're a liar too, Arianna? I thought you were just crazy.

Here's the deal. When she got kicked off of .'s board she brought that bullshit over here. So I PM'ed her asking her what was going on. She told me. Harajuku misunderstood something I wrote, but we cleared that up. Then Snozola here posted exactly what I wrote for all to see, which was nothing but my question (SHE GOT ME!), you can look that one up. Then sheruairidh started taking little potshots. Now she's making up more shit about me asking her to leave, and which isn't true. I guess she's ASSuming that I'm a . fan because I got at her, but really I got at her for being a dumbass.


So Arianna, post my PM to you telling you to leave.

This was what you wrote to me after my first post. Copied directly, word for word.

What are you and Harajuku going on about? I thought everything was cool over there on the "other" site.

While I'll admit that you didn't directly suggest we leave HA, you are certainly inferring that Hara and I are less then welcome here. As if to say, why come from that "other" site, and over to this one, which was how I interpreted that. Whatever you wanna call this ambiguous bullshit, it's not exactly welcoming or friendly. Again, you approached me originally. What's the motivation behind it? BTW, I called . a nosey bitch and told her to delete me; that's not exactly what I would call getting "kicked off". But the bottom line is, you should just mind your own fucking business intead of writing me qusetions about what I'm "going on about". Again, what was the motivation to PM me? Why are you getting involved? Are you ok w/ . reading your PM's on Pixel? I guess you are. But hey, you're the lowlife piece of shit who suggested that I stab myself, so who knows what goes on in that pea-brain of yours.

Where did you read that I said you aren't welcomed here? How do you get that from me saying "I though everything was cool...?" That's why I said reading was fundamental. I don't care what you told . to get yourself kicked off her board. What was my motivation? Fuck are you? A director now, too? I asked because I wanted to know. Again, you told me, just like I asked. I'm not a member of her board and never have been.

You saying don't ask me questions is stupid, because you answered the question I asked. If you had any common sense you would've said that to begin with. Learn how to take things at face value and don't try to "infer" anything, because it's obvious you can't. If I said anything to you, I said what I meant, nothing else.

I didn't get involved until you posted my PM TWICE like it was revealing something nasty. I ignored you the first time you did it because it was just stupid. Then you kept trying to get my attention. You kept trying it AFTER I cleared up the misunderstanding with your girl. I dropped it again, because getting into it with you is like shooting fish in a barrel...with a shotgun. Then you decided to chime in on other shit I said over a month before you got here, that I guess offended you because you're over 6'0 tall with "man" arms. You need to go back and re-read that one too re-re. You started hugging my nuts just a little too tight. The more you post about it the dumber you look, so just drop it. You ma'am are a fucktard. I'm laughing at you now. And I'm done, it's obvious you just HAVE to get the last word in, so you can have it, even if it makes you look like even more of a dummy.

ruairidh: All you get is five,because mommy needs to put a parental block on her PC. So they have British internet thugs too, huh?Come back when you have something really funny to say....you'll kick my ass whenever you care too? You can't even threaten and sound hard, come back when you grow a pair. :roll:

Harajuku: As the first person to EVER get into it with . on here, I understood that.

[MacShreach]

ruairidh: All you get is five,because mommy needs to put a parental block on her PC. So they have British internet thugs too, huh?Come back when you have something really funny to say....you'll kick my ass whenever you care too? You can't even threaten and sound hard, come back when you grow a pair.

Bwahahahaha. God you are really desperate. Glad you finished up though. Wouldn't like you to go past your nap time, now, would we?

[TomSelis]

Try again...

[TomSelis]

Seriously, go back and reread a few things. You don't need another explaination, because it's right there. With your silly, semi-literate ass.

[TomSelis]

We all know how well you read. You reading people, forget about it.

Let's examine shall we:

-I'm a "friend" of .'s. WRONG.

-I PM'ed you telling you you weren't welcomed on this board. WRONG.

-You can't read. RIGHT.

-You read into something that wasn't said nor implied. RIGHT.

-You keep asking me a question I already told you the answer to (In plain English). RIGHT.

-You keep owning yourself. I give you an E for effort though.

Yep, your IQ is up there alright.

Let's recap. You can't read. You can't read people. You "infer" totally off base. Go back to planet Bizarro. I'm done with you for real now.

[tsntx]

me like bizarro... bizarro... i love you, bizarro

[TomSelis]

LOL! Now that's funny!

[tsntx]

hoo-rah for adult swim

[TomSelis]

hoo-rah for adult swim

The Boondocks come on tonight at 11!!!

[Ecstatic]

I'm looking forward to Boondocks. It's one of the most intelligent comics in the daily paper, and from what I've read McGruder pulls no punches on the tv show, while he's had to at times in the comics (can't use the "n" word, which he does on the tv show). Like Doonesbury before it, Boondocks often has been censored by papers due to controversial content.

[Brideshead]

I'm looking forward to Boondocks. It's one of the most intelligent comics in the daily paper, and from what I've read McGruder pulls no punches on the tv show, while he's had to at times in the comics (can't use the "n" word, which he does on the tv show). Like Doonesbury before it, Boondocks often has been censored by papers due to controversial content.
I'm looking forward to it tonight too.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Harajuku: As the first person to EVER get into it with . on here, I understood that.

Thanks TomSelis..But that's not exactly true. You've been a member here at HA since Sept. 3 2004..Way before I joined in. Im definitely not thee FIRST person to EVER get it on with .. There were already a handful of peeps here who went before me. Maybe you just never noticed.

Like I said before, It started out when I went to comment and gave a compliment to Allanah and render her support for the case she has in court againts SPLASH. Had . didnt butt in things would have been fine. But she went on babbling with accussations (Which by the way she couldnt prove) and calling me names. Im pretty sure anyone would have speak up and done the same if they were in my shoes.

~Kisses.

HTG

[Trogdor]

the only reason ggs think its so easy to clock a ts is b/c they r soooooooooooo bitter when we walk in the room ... better dressed, better bodies, better handbags, better boyfriends they start tearing us apart and picking out flaws until all the "flaws" add up to "man" then they think its obvious when it literally took them all that hassle to do soWhen I take a walk through a mall, and see the dozens of fat sorry-ass gg's, who take no pride in their personal appearance, I think to myself, "It's no wonder that your man isn't content with that, ya heffer!" lol

Yep. Here in the midwest, there women like that everywhere. And I live just north of Detroit, so I have seen many hidious GG's.......any wonder why men cheat on their wives? Go to the gym, throw out those snacks you inhale 10 times a day, wear some clothes that don't look like something Red Green would wear, shave your godamn legs, and remember.......make-up is fine, but something modern......no stupid 80's make-up you've been doing for the last 2 decades.

And when the man leaves the girl......her ass gets small again.....till she lands another poor sucker.

[Trogdor]

Yep. Here in the midwest, there women like that everywhere. And I live just north of Detroit, so I have seen many hidious GG's.......any wonder why men cheat on their wives? Go to the gym, throw out those snacks you inhale 10 times a day, wear some clothes that don't look like something Red Green, shave your godamn legs, and remember.......make-up is fine, but something modern......no stupid 80's make-up you've been doing for the last 2 decades.

And when the man leaves the girl......her ass gets small again.....till she lands another poor sucker.There are so many GG's that I truely love and admire. But, imho, TS women generally appreciate their womanhood a little more; probably because, both psychologically and physically, we had to fight/work harder to achieve it.

Quite so, quite so. :)

[rc206]

give me a fucking break! who cares about she said/he said bullshit! Adrianna(man bitch),u are always running your mouth,about shit no one cares about ! U say your more like a woman than a woma,give me a break! u do gossup,bitch and lie more than most woman! u still look like a man w/a wig! if I looked like u I would be piss off too! :)

[MacShreach]

give me a fucking break! who cares about she said/he said bullshit! Adrianna(man bitch),u are always running your mouth,about shit no one cares about ! U say your more like a woman than a woma,give me a break! u do gossup,bitch and lie more than most woman! u still look like a man w/a wig! if I looked like u I would be piss off too! :)

Hey MDS, lookah here! Troll woke up today. Shows how thick they are, the dumb fucks are supposed to hibernate!