Admire Ts but afraid to fuck them ?

[sammy2]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

[sammy2]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get,

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people



So according to you, transgendered women and the men who like them are gay? Can't wait to see what the girls have to say about this....

Well I would say if a man should suck a ts dick, get fucked by a ts, and fuck a ts he is closer to being gay than being straight.

The girls will say anything to keep the gay guys feeling comfortable, but deep down most ts prolly think these guys are fags.

[Legend]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.


Are you crazy ?you think looking at a transgender women makes someone gay? I really think you are doing them a favor by staying away as you said yourself your homophobic.

[JamesHunt]

We live in a physical world. Taking it to the extremes, compare a transsexual who acts like a woman, talks like a woman, thinks like a woman, but unfortunately has a penis. At the other end of the scale you have scouse chick, whos every sentence includes the word 'fuck', drinks pints, pisses in the street & generally ends the night collapsed down a back alley with her knickers round her ankles & covered in vomit.

The choice is yours :lol:

[dan_drade]

Sammy, thats a real bummer that you feel that way. I can tell you from experience that once you date a nice TS girl, you will never want to date a GG again.
I'm not talking about buying some time from a working girl, but really dating and having an intimate relationship. like having fun together as well as sex and really getting to know the girl.
Cross the line and give it a try. You wont regret it.

[2009AD]

OK, but you are here on HA, a tg site, so you are attracted to tgs, you must fantasize about them. So, according to your logic, you are less straight than men who only like ggs right?




Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get,

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people



So according to you, transgendered women and the men who like them are gay? Can't wait to see what the girls have to say about this....

Well I would say if a man should suck a ts dick, get fucked by a ts, and fuck a ts he is closer to being gay than being straight.

The girls will say anything to keep the gay guys feeling comfortable, but deep down most ts prolly think these guys are fags.

[Jericho]

It's not fukking them you should be afraid of, be afraid of the "Handbag"...Fuck knows what they keep in there! :shock:

[Ziggy33]

Your missing out buddy!! ;)

[tsntx]

Well I would say if a man should suck a ts dick, get fucked by a ts, and fuck a ts he is closer to being gay than being straight.

The girls will say anything to keep the gay guys feeling comfortable, but deep down most ts prolly think these guys are fags.

i would agree a man willing to do those things w/ a ts is closer to being on the gay side then he was before he did those things but i wouldnt say that makes him more of a gay man than a straight man

girls do say lots of things to keep the guys feeling comfortable... and then i came along and shit all over that sugar coated dream

i dont think most ts think men into ts women are fags but i cant speak for them .... just myself

and i dont think men into transexuals are fags.... but i do think a good portion of men on this and other TS boards are a lot more open to the idea that they arent likely to hook up w/ actual 24/7 hot trannies so they lower their standards and often times that means theyll take a small framed man in makeup to justify their ease into full on faggotry

:D

[blckhaze]

LMAO



stay behind your keyboard. its better for all involved.

[BeardedOne]

It's not fukking them you should be afraid of, be afraid of the "Handbag"...Fuck knows what they keep in there! :shock:

Bowling balls, brass knuckles, and the heaviest item of all: The Victoria's Secret Gift Cards!

:lol:

Sammy, at least you're giving it thought. Sorry to hear about the homophobia, though. Most queers are relatively harmless if you can keep them out of your kitchen and away from the drapes. :)


Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get,

Of course, it goes to the myriad definitions of what is 'gay' as regards our gurls. Some, like myself, don't play with the labels. We are what we are, like who we like, end of story. Some guys here define themselves as 'straight', but drool over the gurls. Many would not consider an interest in T-gurls to be 'straight'.

Good luck in your soul-searching.

[callahac]

Oh just go for it dude, you only live once. Once you actually suck a cock or take one in the ass, I guarrantee you will love it. If you find out you like it so much that you start having sex with guys, who really cares. It doesn't make you less of a man.

[flabbybody]

your orientation never changes. all you're doing now is surpressing your urges. that doesn't make you less gay, just in denial

you are what you are

[tsntx]

:claps

[phobun]

your orientation never changes. all you're doing now is surpressing your urges. that doesn't make you less gay, just in denial

you are what you are
Not if he prays hard enough and goes to revival
Just look at Ted Haggard.

[flabbybody]

your orientation never changes. all you're doing now is surpressing your urges. that doesn't make you less gay, just in denial

you are what you are
Not if he prays hard enough and goes to revival
Just look at Ted Haggard.

yea, Haggard got "cured" of his gayness. now he's a bottom just occasionally

[ottorocket]

It must suck to be an adult and not be able to do whatever you want with your body or anothers for fear of a label. life is too short.

[Gtech]

There is nothing wrong with it. No need to really put a label on it. If it's right it's right. Good lovin is hard to find, act on it when you can

[sheyum]

This gay/straight debate drives me (and everyone else here crazy--yet its always hard NOT to weigh in..
Im attracted to Tgirls--big time
and i dont care HOW many people here cal me a faggot...I know myself--and i am a straight as can be..
Firstly--i consider myself very sexually open and if i wanted to fuck a guy--id do it TODAY why not??
i have NO judgments at all about...i simply domt want to do it..
why do people feel the NEED to tell you that you secretly do!!!??
now--to take it one step further and say "well--if you like tgrils--THATS already gay"--well--i dont think so..

I once read a famous phycologists wriitngs about sexual oriantation--and she said something very interesting...a good barometer of sexual orientation is who you'd like to cuddle up with and nest with..
if you dream of being ina an apartment--making a home.snuggling /kissing with a man--then youre gay...if youre romantic desires/magnetic pull is for a woman--youre st8
I--for one--am not afraid to say that the whole mystique of a ts is the cock--i want the cock...Why?? because its sexy--its nasty--its powerful--and the thought of playing with it is sexy and hot..and anal pentration/stimulation is both sexy and intense--and also stmuating on a purely physical level
but that COCK has to be attacthed to a woman--why?? because i dont LIKE MEN..its simple...i know i speak for many here...why do people feel the need to challenge it?
On the other hand--there are clearly some guy here who roll both ways..
they like trannies--they like girls--and they'll fuck a guy too.
cool for them--theyre BI--but jot everybody falls under that category..

let me give you one last example...the other day iw as walking down Bleeker Street and there were two hot women outside a club.smoking..i was watching them as i apporached and all of a sudden--she spit on the sidewalk..I stopped in my tracks..i almost came in my pants...it was just nasty and sexy to me...she did it again..i stood there for like 1o minutes and watched her do it over and over again (ok--im weird but thats not the point)
when i see a GUY spit on the sidewalk--i have to suppress the urge to PUKE..
why?? you figure it out.............
thats how i KNOW im not gay

[mishadark]

girls do say lots of things to keep the guys feeling comfortable... and then i came along and shit all over that sugar coated dream
J.J. You make me laugh. :D :D :D


i dont think most ts think men into ts women are fags but i cant speak for them .... just myself

and i dont think men into transexuals are fags.... but i do think a good portion of men on this and other TS boards are a lot more open to the idea that they arent likely to hook up w/ actual 24/7 hot trannies so they lower their standards and often times that means theyll take a small framed man in makeup to justify their ease into full on faggotry:D

a spectrum of motives
A lot of denial
If you are into Ts then you are into:
female
women
the fairer sex etc.
Men do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR YOU.

But,
[b]Um, here's lillo' me with my thick long throbbing cock poking out
...& you stare, mouth goes dry, & those thoughts come back .....
& you reach out to touch & caress me
Well you're not EXACTLY STRAIGHT are you?
I mean...
But does it really matter anyway.

honestly its cool
& so should you all be, as well

{{{{hugs}}}}

[The Piper]

At the other end of the scale you have scouse chick, whos every sentence includes the word 'fuck', drinks pints, pisses in the street & generally ends the night collapsed down a back alley with her knickers round her ankles & covered in vomit.


What a PRICK.
Obviously never been to Liverpool.
This can all be witnessed in any city in the UK,so why the Scouse reference.
Stereo typical SHITE,based on your lack of knowledge.

[LBCDO]

I used to fuck around with a lot of TSs back in the day, but now its just an online thing. I was younger. I got into TSs when I was like 16/17, im 25 now, so Ive had tons of time to get it in, but I'm done. I have a serious gf now so that has a lot to do with it. But even when I was single, I gave up on the scene. Ultimately, too much drama. You fuck with one girl in your city, and say it don't work out, you fuck with a different, people automatically assume you're some internet tranny chasing asshole blah blah blah. Pictures online wont key your car!

[Tepres]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

I've looked at a few pics, but never met one in real life. As far as I know.

[mishadark]

girls do say lots of things to keep the guys feeling comfortable... and then i came along and shit all over that sugar coated dream
J.J. You make me laugh. :D :D :D


i dont think most ts think men into ts women are fags but i cant speak for them .... just myself

and i dont think men into transexuals are fags.... but i do think a good portion of men on this and other TS boards are a lot more open to the idea that they arent likely to hook up w/ actual 24/7 hot trannies so they lower their standards and often times that means theyll take a small framed man in makeup to justify their ease into full on faggotry:D

a spectrum of motives
A lot of denial
If you are into Ts then you are into:
female
women
the fairer sex etc.
Men do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR YOU.

But,
Um, here's lillo' me with my thick long throbbing cock poking out
...& you stare, mouth goes dry, & those thoughts come back .....
& you reach out to touch & caress me
Well you're not EXACTLY STRAIGHT are you?
I mean...
But does it really matter anyway.

honestly its cool
& so should you all be, as well

{{{{hugs}}}}

[worldbro]

Dammit; if liking transsexuals makes me gay
then my love for midget porn must make me (GASP)... a pedophile :(

[kmod]

hey, i say if it gets you off then why the hell aren't you doing it?

life IS too short

I have yet to be wit a HA, but if it happens, then it happens.

I'll try anything twice, cus you know the first time could just be a bad experience :)

[Danielle Foxx]

Wow... someone needs a therapist

[saifan]

No fear here. Life is too short to think about this shit, dude. Seriously. I took the plunge back in June and I couldn't be a happier person.

[worldbro]

Wow... someone needs a therapist

yeah I should of threw a lol or something in there, that does sound kind of odd if there is no sarcasm detected

[Jericho]

Wow... someone needs a therapist


Wanna narrow that down? :wink:

[worldbro]

I used to fuck around with a lot of TSs back in the day, but now its just an online thing. I was younger. I got into TSs when I was like 16/17, im 25 now, so Ive had tons of time to get it in, but I'm done. I have a serious gf now so that has a lot to do with it. But even when I was single, I gave up on the scene. Ultimately, too much drama. You fuck with one girl in your city, and say it don't work out, you fuck with a different, people automatically assume you're some internet tranny chasing asshole blah blah blah. Pictures online wont key your car!

Lol you must have been through Plantation Gardens in Sandy Springs a few times then lol, it was like Mos Eisley in that bitch

[sammy2]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

C'mon, really?

Straight, gay or bi who the fuck cares? Dude, just live your life. It took me 26 years to realize that the only person I have to proof something to is myself. I really don't care what people think of me anymore, I can only be me. Life is a whole lot funner when you don't care about the stupid shit. Fact of the matter is that, your problem isn't your orientation but the fact that you afraid to be labeled a homo.

Perhaps, you can try recognizing the transition that trans women undergo to achieve "their beauty and spectacular bodies", as temporary and acknowledge them as women. After all, the majority of us are transitioning or have transitioned to become woman and not any other label you may have for us.

Looking at it from a boarder point of view, we're humans and sex is suppose to be fun for us. My philosophy is simple, if you're able to turn me on and I can do the same for you, then we're probably going to hook up, whether you are a man or girl(ts or gg). Personally, I feel that having sex with a ts is only gay if you believe that the individual you're fucking is still a man or if you can't help but feel like a bitch when she's tearing your ass up.

I can live my life however I want, nothing is really holding me back.
For me to sleep with a TS, it would be going against all my upbringings and teaching I got while growing up in Jamaica.. I have hurt gay people in the past because of their sexual orientation, this is how strong my homophobia is.
When I think of the reason why I may be into TS it also makes me reconsider if this is really me.

[HP1000]

I can live my life however I want, nothing is really holding me back.
For me to sleep with a TS, it would be going against all my upbringings and teaching I got while growing up in Jamaica.. I have hurt gay people in the past because of their sexual orientation, this is how strong my homophobia is.
When I think of the reason why I may be into TS it also makes me reconsider if this is really me.
_________________
I don't smile much




Maybe you should be flushed back down the sewer or cesspool you surfaced from..... :x

[tsntx]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

C'mon, really?

Straight, gay or bi who the fuck cares? Dude, just live your life. It took me 26 years to realize that the only person I have to proof something to is myself. I really don't care what people think of me anymore, I can only be me. Life is a whole lot funner when you don't care about the stupid shit. Fact of the matter is that, your problem isn't your orientation but the fact that you afraid to be labeled a homo.

Perhaps, you can try recognizing the transition that trans women undergo to achieve "their beauty and spectacular bodies", as temporary and acknowledge them as women. After all, the majority of us are transitioning or have transitioned to become woman and not any other label you may have for us.

Looking at it from a boarder point of view, we're humans and sex is suppose to be fun for us. My philosophy is simple, if you're able to turn me on and I can do the same for you, then we're probably going to hook up, whether you are a man or girl(ts or gg). Personally, I feel that having sex with a ts is only gay if you believe that the individual you're fucking is still a man or if you can't help but feel like a bitch when she's tearing your ass up.

I can live my life however I want, nothing is really holding me back.
For me to sleep with a TS, it would be going against all my upbringings and teaching I got while growing up in Jamaica.. I have hurt gay people in the past because of their sexual orientation, this is how strong my homophobia is.
When I think of the reason why I may be into TS it also makes me reconsider if this is really me.

we fear in others what we see in the mirror

to hear you say you have hurt ppl bc of them being gay is crap.... youre punishing them for YOU being gay

hit yourself

[sammy2]

I'm not gay.

[dasilentthunder]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

C'mon, really?

Straight, gay or bi who the fuck cares? Dude, just live your life. It took me 26 years to realize that the only person I have to proof something to is myself. I really don't care what people think of me anymore, I can only be me. Life is a whole lot funner when you don't care about the stupid shit. Fact of the matter is that, your problem isn't your orientation but the fact that you afraid to be labeled a homo.

Perhaps, you can try recognizing the transition that trans women undergo to achieve "their beauty and spectacular bodies", as temporary and acknowledge them as women. After all, the majority of us are transitioning or have transitioned to become woman and not any other label you may have for us.

Looking at it from a boarder point of view, we're humans and sex is suppose to be fun for us. My philosophy is simple, if you're able to turn me on and I can do the same for you, then we're probably going to hook up, whether you are a man or girl(ts or gg). Personally, I feel that having sex with a ts is only gay if you believe that the individual you're fucking is still a man or if you can't help but feel like a bitch when she's tearing your ass up.

I can live my life however I want, nothing is really holding me back.
For me to sleep with a TS, it would be going against all my upbringings and teaching I got while growing up in Jamaica.. I have hurt gay people in the past because of their sexual orientation, this is how strong my homophobia is.
When I think of the reason why I may be into TS it also makes me reconsider if this is really me.

sammy cut the bullshit. you love penis :roll:

[worldbro]

I'm not gay.

lol if not then

[sammy2]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

C'mon, really?

Straight, gay or bi who the fuck cares? Dude, just live your life. It took me 26 years to realize that the only person I have to proof something to is myself. I really don't care what people think of me anymore, I can only be me. Life is a whole lot funner when you don't care about the stupid shit. Fact of the matter is that, your problem isn't your orientation but the fact that you afraid to be labeled a homo.

Perhaps, you can try recognizing the transition that trans women undergo to achieve "their beauty and spectacular bodies", as temporary and acknowledge them as women. After all, the majority of us are transitioning or have transitioned to become woman and not any other label you may have for us.

Looking at it from a boarder point of view, we're humans and sex is suppose to be fun for us. My philosophy is simple, if you're able to turn me on and I can do the same for you, then we're probably going to hook up, whether you are a man or girl(ts or gg). Personally, I feel that having sex with a ts is only gay if you believe that the individual you're fucking is still a man or if you can't help but feel like a bitch when she's tearing your ass up.

I can live my life however I want, nothing is really holding me back.
For me to sleep with a TS, it would be going against all my upbringings and teaching I got while growing up in Jamaica.. I have hurt gay people in the past because of their sexual orientation, this is how strong my homophobia is.
When I think of the reason why I may be into TS it also makes me reconsider if this is really me.

sammy cut the bullshit. you love penis :roll:

You know I chilled with a TS once, and when she was hugging me I felt her hard dick touching my knee ( i'm 6'6) ..lol..and I never went back to chill with her because of that.

[Danielle Foxx]

Well I would say if a man should suck a ts dick, get fucked by a ts, and fuck a ts he is closer to being gay than being straight.

The girls will say anything to keep the gay guys feeling comfortable, but deep down most ts prolly think these guys are fags.

i would agree a man willing to do those things w/ a ts is closer to being on the gay side then he was before he did those things but i wouldnt say that makes him more of a gay man than a straight man

girls do say lots of things to keep the guys feeling comfortable... and then i came along and shit all over that sugar coated dream

i dont think most ts think men into ts women are fags but i cant speak for them .... just myself

and i dont think men into transexuals are fags.... but i do think a good portion of men on this and other TS boards are a lot more open to the idea that they arent likely to hook up w/ actual 24/7 hot trannies so they lower their standards and often times that means theyll take a small framed man in makeup to justify their ease into full on faggotry

:D


ROFFL

[Danielle Foxx]

This gay/straight debate drives me (and everyone else here crazy--yet its always hard NOT to weigh in..
Im attracted to Tgirls--big time
and i dont care HOW many people here cal me a faggot...I know myself--and i am a straight as can be..
Firstly--i consider myself very sexually open and if i wanted to fuck a guy--id do it TODAY why not??
i have NO judgments at all about...i simply domt want to do it..
why do people feel the NEED to tell you that you secretly do!!!??
now--to take it one step further and say "well--if you like tgrils--THATS already gay"--well--i dont think so..

I once read a famous phycologists wriitngs about sexual oriantation--and she said something very interesting...a good barometer of sexual orientation is who you'd like to cuddle up with and nest with..
if you dream of being ina an apartment--making a home.snuggling /kissing with a man--then youre gay...if youre romantic desires/magnetic pull is for a woman--youre st8
I--for one--am not afraid to say that the whole mystique of a ts is the cock--i want the cock...Why?? because its sexy--its nasty--its powerful--and the thought of playing with it is sexy and hot..and anal pentration/stimulation is both sexy and intense--and also stmuating on a purely physical level
but that COCK has to be attacthed to a woman--why?? because i dont LIKE MEN..its simple...i know i speak for many here...why do people feel the need to challenge it?
On the other hand--there are clearly some guy here who roll both ways..
they like trannies--they like girls--and they'll fuck a guy too.
cool for them--theyre BI--but jot everybody falls under that category..

let me give you one last example...the other day iw as walking down Bleeker Street and there were two hot women outside a club.smoking..i was watching them as i apporached and all of a sudden--she spit on the sidewalk..I stopped in my tracks..i almost came in my pants...it was just nasty and sexy to me...she did it again..i stood there for like 1o minutes and watched her do it over and over again (ok--im weird but thats not the point)
when i see a GUY spit on the sidewalk--i have to suppress the urge to PUKE..
why?? you figure it out.............
thats how i KNOW im not gay

WELL SAID Indeed

[tsntx]

LOL thats awesome

[dan_yearsgone83]

and I

JIZZED

IN

MY PANTS

[dasilentthunder]

If you joked about gay people in the past then why did you hang around so many ts. Most of them have a cock yanno.

[transmaven]

This gay/straight debate drives me (and everyone else here crazy--yet its always hard NOT to weigh in..
Im attracted to Tgirls--big time
and i dont care HOW many people here cal me a faggot...I know myself--and i am a straight as can be..
Firstly--i consider myself very sexually open and if i wanted to fuck a guy--id do it TODAY why not??
i have NO judgments at all about...i simply domt want to do it..
why do people feel the NEED to tell you that you secretly do!!!??
now--to take it one step further and say "well--if you like tgrils--THATS already gay"--well--i dont think so..

I once read a famous phycologists wriitngs about sexual oriantation--and she said something very interesting...a good barometer of sexual orientation is who you'd like to cuddle up with and nest with..
if you dream of being ina an apartment--making a home.snuggling /kissing with a man--then youre gay...if youre romantic desires/magnetic pull is for a woman--youre st8
I--for one--am not afraid to say that the whole mystique of a ts is the cock--i want the cock...Why?? because its sexy--its nasty--its powerful--and the thought of playing with it is sexy and hot..and anal pentration/stimulation is both sexy and intense--and also stmuating on a purely physical level
but that COCK has to be attacthed to a woman--why?? because i dont LIKE MEN..its simple...i know i speak for many here...why do people feel the need to challenge it?
On the other hand--there are clearly some guy here who roll both ways..
they like trannies--they like girls--and they'll fuck a guy too.
cool for them--theyre BI--but jot everybody falls under that category..

let me give you one last example...the other day iw as walking down Bleeker Street and there were two hot women outside a club.smoking..i was watching them as i apporached and all of a sudden--she spit on the sidewalk..I stopped in my tracks..i almost came in my pants...it was just nasty and sexy to me...she did it again..i stood there for like 1o minutes and watched her do it over and over again (ok--im weird but thats not the point)
when i see a GUY spit on the sidewalk--i have to suppress the urge to PUKE..
why?? you figure it out.............
thats how i KNOW im not gay

that's the single best post I've read on this dismal subject.

let's face it: the "cuddle up and nesting" comment is *definitive.*

nice job, sheyum, nice job

[samstl99]

Dude.. here it is in a Nutshell.. (or perhaps a nutsack)..

Are you attracted to the Male look? NO.. then you are not gay...

Are you attracted to the Female look?.. YES.. then you are STR8.

Stop confusing a person's genitals with sexual orientation. If you were with a woman who had a clit that was engorged and about 1/2" to 1" long.. would you not go down on her? WELL guess what.. it is just skin.

Be attracted to a person, or a persona.. and leave it at that.


AND HELLO JENN, Hello Danielle.. LTNS.. been away for awhile.. And hello Holly,Kelly, and Wendy...

[ef9hatchman]

Dude.. here it is in a Nutshell.. (or perhaps a nutsack)..

Are you attracted to the Male look? NO.. then you are not gay...

Are you attracted to the Female look?.. YES.. then you are STR8.

Stop confusing a person's genitals with sexual orientation. If you were with a woman who had a clit that was engorged and about 1/2" to 1" long.. would you not go down on her? WELL guess what.. it is just skin.

Be attracted to a person, or a persona.. and leave it at that.


AND HELLO JENN, Hello Danielle.. LTNS.. been away for awhile.. And hello Holly,Kelly, and Wendy...
Nice philos... I like +93898392839829 to you.

[Distance]

So you hit gay people before? Wow. To me, they just don't matter. I only find it quite ironic that some men loving men try and behave like girls, whilst bearing all the looks of men. They are mostly harmless I think, really. I am attracted to 'people' who really look and feel feminine, and sound so. Sucking cock (or getting it behind) is just not for me, in fact, if I was ever to do that....mmmh, I think I'd simply puke. Let's just be politically correct and say reverse oral ejaculation :lol:

[phobun]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.
Face it sammy (nice epicene name, BTW)...
You are one feather boa away from being the next male voguer.
So stop the denial and self-hatred.

[Danielle Foxx]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

[Legend]

I'm not gay.


No homo, right? Seriously guys like you are a f**king joke.

[phobun]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

C'mon, really?

Straight, gay or bi who the fuck cares? Dude, just live your life. It took me 26 years to realize that the only person I have to proof something to is myself. I really don't care what people think of me anymore, I can only be me. Life is a whole lot funner when you don't care about the stupid shit. Fact of the matter is that, your problem isn't your orientation but the fact that you afraid to be labeled a homo.

Perhaps, you can try recognizing the transition that trans women undergo to achieve "their beauty and spectacular bodies", as temporary and acknowledge them as women. After all, the majority of us are transitioning or have transitioned to become woman and not any other label you may have for us.

Looking at it from a boarder point of view, we're humans and sex is suppose to be fun for us. My philosophy is simple, if you're able to turn me on and I can do the same for you, then we're probably going to hook up, whether you are a man or girl(ts or gg). Personally, I feel that having sex with a ts is only gay if you believe that the individual you're fucking is still a man or if you can't help but feel like a bitch when she's tearing your ass up.

I can live my life however I want, nothing is really holding me back.
For me to sleep with a TS, it would be going against all my upbringings and teaching I got while growing up in Jamaica.. I have hurt gay people in the past because of their sexual orientation, this is how strong my homophobia is.
When I think of the reason why I may be into TS it also makes me reconsider if this is really me.
You probably were wanting to hurt yourself when you homophobically hurt others. Pathetic nonetheless.

I had more sympathy when I thought you were just gay and in the closet. But you don't even deserve any respect.

You're an evil gay creep. Go away.

[samstl99]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

C'mon, really?

Straight, gay or bi who the fuck cares? Dude, just live your life. It took me 26 years to realize that the only person I have to proof something to is myself. I really don't care what people think of me anymore, I can only be me. Life is a whole lot funner when you don't care about the stupid shit. Fact of the matter is that, your problem isn't your orientation but the fact that you afraid to be labeled a homo.

Perhaps, you can try recognizing the transition that trans women undergo to achieve "their beauty and spectacular bodies", as temporary and acknowledge them as women. After all, the majority of us are transitioning or have transitioned to become woman and not any other label you may have for us.

Looking at it from a boarder point of view, we're humans and sex is suppose to be fun for us. My philosophy is simple, if you're able to turn me on and I can do the same for you, then we're probably going to hook up, whether you are a man or girl(ts or gg). Personally, I feel that having sex with a ts is only gay if you believe that the individual you're fucking is still a man or if you can't help but feel like a bitch when she's tearing your ass up.

I can live my life however I want, nothing is really holding me back.
For me to sleep with a TS, it would be going against all my upbringings and teaching I got while growing up in Jamaica.. I have hurt gay people in the past because of their sexual orientation, this is how strong my homophobia is.
When I think of the reason why I may be into TS it also makes me reconsider if this is really me.


. REALLY....Really...you hurt people because of their orientation You need serious help... Really

And Really.... Really... if you have such hatred towards a certain type of people, then WHY ARE YOU HERE? HOW did you find this place? Does this mean that you are going to find an Arian Website to post on there? Really or kick a hooded racist pig in the nuts during a rally?? REally...

And really.. if someone that is attracted to the female persona.. regardless of genitalia is "in your Book".. closer to gay than Str8... Then I guess you are closer to a primate than Human judging from your rationale, and thinking.... Reallly.....

Danielle I am with you 100%.... and careful.. Jenn may get her safari gear out and find you on the Strip....

[samstl99]

How FUNNY would it be if Jenn finds this Douche bag bobbin for apples in an Alley at Hollywood and Vine... for a Cup of coffee and a donut.

[lahabra1976]

I think I found Sammy, take a look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM6SFIPgidM

[samstl99]

Damn.. I am gonna have to change my name. I am the only Sam. *S

SEriously.. I think this is him.. Sure looks like him......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

[PeteIsHere]

Sammy2, embrace your gayness and be proud of it. You are finally liberated and can say "I am happy to be gay."

[dasilentthunder]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

I think we can leave the race part out of this.

[Distance]

Ooops. At least someone noticed it, and said it out loud. Sammy? If I were you, I'd take my scooby doo and run. :lol:

[tsntx]

Sammy2, embrace your gayness and be proud of it. You are finally liberated and can say "I am happy to be gay."


does this mean you follow your own advice faggot?

[Silcc69]

Jen never ever fails to deliver. Anyways this has to be one of the weirdest messages i have seen on here. Then u even put up yo face which is weird too. Really If you have those views then why even be on here but hey what do u know.

[Legend]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

I think we can leave the race part out of this.

Are you kidding me? I'm glad she said that,a homophobic african american is well like a racist homosexual.

[Realgirls4me]

This Sammy guy is disturbed ... Almost as mentally fucked up as a certain self-righteous, lackey, self-serving, hypocritical, juvenile, bigoted, little poster, who has achieved the dubious distinction as the biggest joke to ever frequent this forum.

Uuuuuh, listening, Legend?


Hmmm, where's that link?

[sammy2]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

who gives a fuck if you are offended ?
I am at most barely bi curious..
Anyways, I don't care for you with your racial remarks.. It does not offend me.. it explains why I never see you witb black guys in your videos..fuck your outrage...

[sammy2]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

who gives a fuck if you are offended ?
I am at most barely bi curious..
Anyways, I don't care for you with your racial remarks.. It does not offend me.. it explains why I never see you witb black guys in your videos..fuck your outrage...

[Silcc69]

Actually Danielle did a scene with that Ice T lookalike for TS Prostitutes 36 or so.

[sammy2]

Actually Danielle did a scene with that Ice T lookalike for TS Prostitutes 36 or so.

after such a long career of whoring on cam thats the only bi racial movie shim did.. great.
I can't believe a man who cut his small dick off and replaced it with a fake smelly pussy would be online poping shit. I know this bitch is just trying to get some attention because herim all important porn career is over...

[Realgirls4me]

Sammy,

Putting aside the obvious synaptic disturbances and stark florescent like dissonance going on here that would bring such a topic to the fore, do you really go out and harm people based on their sexual orientation? Do you really? You actually go out and harm people for this, huh? And why pick on Danielle? She's simply calling it as most in here see you -- as an ignorant punk, and a bigoted one at that.

[PeteIsHere]

Ice T is black? I always thought he was Latino/Hispanic.


Actually Danielle did a scene with that Ice T lookalike for TS Prostitutes 36 or so.

[PeteIsHere]

I don't respond to bitches. You will never be a woman.


does this mean you follow your own advice faggot?

[sammy2]

Sammy,

Putting aside the obvious synaptic disturbances and stark florescent like dissonance going on here that would bring such a topic to the fore, do you really go out and harm people based on their sexual orientation? Do you really? You actually go out and harm people for this, huh? And why pick on Danielle? She's simply calling it as most in here see you -- as an ignorant punk, and a bigoted one at that.

I feel like you are forcing to me confess to a crime. I can say I have seen mobs brutally, fatally hurt people who were identified as gay.

[Legend]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

who gives a fuck if you are offended ?
I am at most barely bi curious..
Anyways, I don't care for you with your racial remarks.. It does not offend me.. it explains why I never see you witb black guys in your videos..fuck your outrage...


Are you really that ignorant? she is transgender and you just said you beat up gay people,how would you feel if someone said they like to beat up black people?

What a find laughable and extremely hypocritical of you,is that you admit to being homophobic but you are so quick to call someone a racist.All danielle was doing is pointing out the injustice of people because of the color of your skin ,the same way you are doing to people because of their sexual preference.

[Realgirls4me]

Tell Sammy about your bigotry, Legend. You know, two of like minds mind-melting for everyone to see.

This should be rich.

[PeteIsHere]

Danielle, what you are failing to realize is that Sammy is not American. As he stated in one of his messages, he is from Jamaica. Jamaica is probably one of the most homophobic countries outside of Islamic countries that enforce Sharia law. Homophobia is a common sentiment expressed by citizens of this country and gays are commonly preyed upon and beaten up. It is very dangerous for gay people to live in Jamaica.



I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

[dasilentthunder]

I agree with sammy about the racial remark but coming from danielle fox that doesnt surprise me. Most of the posters that say they wasnt offended by her statement isnt african american.

[dasilentthunder]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

I think we can leave the race part out of this.

Are you kidding me? I'm glad she said that,a homophobic african american is well like a racist homosexual.

"He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin". What does that statement have to do with this thread? Let me guess you must be white huh "legend" :roll: Fucking asskisser

[Teydyn]

I agree with sammy about the racial remark
He isnt a "offending, disgusting bastard" because he is black, but because he beats up gays. (Being black makes it even worse, having a history of racial-related-hate-crimes SHOULD make him a bit aware).


I don't respond to bitches. You will never be a woman.
Wow, great comment, does that mean you will never be a man?


"He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin". What does that statement have to do with this thread?
Everything? Like i said above, he SHOULD remember/know how it is to be hunted/hated/despised because of something that really doesnt matter.
Whatever it is, skincolor, sexual preference, who you voted for as president...

[dasilentthunder]

I agree with sammy about the racial remark
He isnt a "offending, disgusting bastard" because he is black, but because he beats up gays. (Being black makes it even worse, having a history of racial-related-hate-crimes SHOULD make him a bit aware).


I don't respond to bitches. You will never be a woman.
Wow, great comment, does that mean you will never be a man?

:roll:

[Danielle Foxx]

I think we can leave the race part out of this.


Why? Being a Transsexual is not something I chose. I was born this way...like black people were born black, they couldn't help but to be different then the majority at that time. So why should an oppressed race pass on hate to other minorities? Fuck the race shit. It's not about race - it's about his hypocritical behavior.

[Legend]

I'm not gay.

You are gayer then a pink too too and pink shit!

And the fact you are violent and have hurt others makes me think of you getting gang rapped in jail - scum!

This is the kind of guy you hear throws trans women out of windows and beats them up after he sleeps with them because they feel disgusted. Why are we being nice to this guy?

He admits beating up gay people, gay bashing while he is black as midnight. He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin. What a fucking hypocrite.

BAN THIS BASTARD PLEASE!
I AM PISSED OFF, OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED!

I think we can leave the race part out of this.

Are you kidding me? I'm glad she said that,a homophobic african american is well like a racist homosexual.

"He forgets that a few years ago people hung his neck by nooses because of the color of his skin". What does that statement have to do with this thread? Let me guess you must be white huh "legend" :roll: Fucking asskisser


It has plenty to do with this thread.The guy said he beat up people for their sexual preference and back then black people were beat up/hung/other horrible things for the color of their skin.He is doing the same thing they did.I'm not kissing her ass i just agree with her and hate hypocrites.

[xxemox]

I <3 TS do i consider myself gay! I have had a talk with my theripist about this topic actually, I am still 100% straight not bi, not gay straight and not straght curious. MY reasoning is exactly this, in my mind and to my eye a TS is not a male. The have breast they are femme they wear make up, get their nails did, hair did, and dress better and more feeme then most girls i have known or dated. That is what turns me on there level of feminimity, ( sorry 4 spellin) Its not about a cock, or huge cock in my mouth as i see posted here so much. Which leads me to side with Jen. Most guys are gay or at least bi if not total fags and the TS genre and gender allows them to more easily feel comfortable in there feelings and skin.

Me on the other hand would have no issue topping a TS, and even giving a HJ if you can call it that..... but otherwise nope sorry will not bottom and my mouth is for tounges and food. Not cock...... no offnese "ladies" you are gourgous but I view you as women and in my mind if you truely like being a top or being sucked off maybe there is more at hand then you really wanting to be a lady some people state.


PHEW......... I hope ya'll think about what i said and maybe then you will see where you feelings truely come from.!!!

[evilguy919]

hmm...personally I don't think myself as gay when I want to fuck a TS. The reason why I know I'm not gay is that, when I see guys walk down the street, I don't feel anything. No attraction or sexual feeling what so ever. Plus personally I like to fuck a TS, but can NEVER see or accept of myself get fuck by a TS.

[tom01]

evilguy919 i know what you're saying. A guy standing there naked showing his body wouldn't do anything for me at all. But a girl standing in same pose i would die for! Maybe i shouldn't be saying this on the forum i don't know but here goes! I don't even masturbate to females either, the only girls that do anything for me are the ones with something that hangs between their legs. I can't help that just what i feel and the way i am.

[vamxcore]

i would agree a man willing to do those things w/ a ts is closer to being on the gay side then he was before he did those things but i wouldnt say that makes him more of a gay man than a straight man

girls do say lots of things to keep the guys feeling comfortable... and then i came along and shit all over that sugar coated dream

i dont think most ts think men into ts women are fags but i cant speak for them .... just myself

and i dont think men into transexuals are fags.... but i do think a good portion of men on this and other TS boards are a lot more open to the idea that they arent likely to hook up w/ actual 24/7 hot trannies so they lower their standards and often times that means theyll take a small framed man in makeup to justify their ease into full on faggotry

:D

:) I like you.

[TGirlAdmirer82]

I am currently debating whether or not I should contact a TS in the town I'm in right now. I think most people would say go for it. I am attracted to TS and have been for some time. However, I get tired of just looking at pics and thinking about it. On the same token, I am nervous as hell and don't know how I would handle the situation if I call her and actually meet up. On the other hand, if I don't try, I'll never know... Anybody been in this situation before?

[tom01]

TGirlAdmirer82 you're right what you say that there's only a certain amount of pics and vids. I think yourself that you will meet up with someone. There's no ts girls near me and i would have to travel to meet. I'd say go for it, get to chatting or emailing first and tell her what you're thinking. ts girls are more loving and understandable than what you think. Just be honest with yourself and with who you plan to meet.

[saifan]

Take the plunge. The worse that can happen is you find it's not for you. Relax, treat her like a person and have fun. A shot of Jack might help as well.

[tom01]

TGirlAdmirer82 you're right what you say that there's only a certain amount of pics and vids. I think yourself that you will meet up with someone. There's no ts girls near me and i would have to travel to meet. I'd say go for it, get to chatting or emailing first and tell her what you're thinking. ts girls are more loving and understandable than what you think. Just be honest with yourself and with who you plan to meet.

[tsntx]

i would agree a man willing to do those things w/ a ts is closer to being on the gay side then he was before he did those things but i wouldnt say that makes him more of a gay man than a straight man

girls do say lots of things to keep the guys feeling comfortable... and then i came along and shit all over that sugar coated dream

i dont think most ts think men into ts women are fags but i cant speak for them .... just myself

and i dont think men into transexuals are fags.... but i do think a good portion of men on this and other TS boards are a lot more open to the idea that they arent likely to hook up w/ actual 24/7 hot trannies so they lower their standards and often times that means theyll take a small framed man in makeup to justify their ease into full on faggotry

:D

:) I like you.


lol ty i like u 2

[TGirlAdmirer82]

Not only would this be my first time with a TS but with an escort period. So here comes the naive and possibly ignorant question. Should I bring condoms with me or will she likely have some? The reason I ask is it appears the girls do not want to talk about anything sex-related before meeting up (they may not be allowed to or it might be considered prostitution) - so I sort of assume whether you have sex or not is in their court.... could be wrong. Just looking for etiquette tips and thought I'd ask the dumb question anyway.. i can't be the only naive one on here! :-)

[edwardsjimfresno]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

I dont post much but this is silly. It is in a way gay. Lets look at this. I like a womens body and face but im not attracted to mans. I also like cock. This part makes it gay in some way.

[sheyum]

This gay/straight debate drives me (and everyone else here crazy--yet its always hard NOT to weigh in..
Im attracted to Tgirls--big time
and i dont care HOW many people here cal me a faggot...I know myself--and i am a straight as can be..
Firstly--i consider myself very sexually open and if i wanted to fuck a guy--id do it TODAY why not??
i have NO judgments at all about...i simply domt want to do it..
why do people feel the NEED to tell you that you secretly do!!!??
now--to take it one step further and say "well--if you like tgrils--THATS already gay"--well--i dont think so..

I once read a famous phycologists wriitngs about sexual oriantation--and she said something very interesting...a good barometer of sexual orientation is who you'd like to cuddle up with and nest with..
if you dream of being ina an apartment--making a home.snuggling /kissing with a man--then youre gay...if youre romantic desires/magnetic pull is for a woman--youre st8
I--for one--am not afraid to say that the whole mystique of a ts is the cock--i want the cock...Why?? because its sexy--its nasty--its powerful--and the thought of playing with it is sexy and hot..and anal pentration/stimulation is both sexy and intense--and also stmuating on a purely physical level
but that COCK has to be attacthed to a woman--why?? because i dont LIKE MEN..its simple...i know i speak for many here...why do people feel the need to challenge it?
On the other hand--there are clearly some guy here who roll both ways..
they like trannies--they like girls--and they'll fuck a guy too.
cool for them--theyre BI--but jot everybody falls under that category..

let me give you one last example...the other day iw as walking down Bleeker Street and there were two hot women outside a club.smoking..i was watching them as i apporached and all of a sudden--she spit on the sidewalk..I stopped in my tracks..i almost came in my pants...it was just nasty and sexy to me...she did it again..i stood there for like 1o minutes and watched her do it over and over again (ok--im weird but thats not the point)
when i see a GUY spit on the sidewalk--i have to suppress the urge to PUKE..
why?? you figure it out.............
thats how i KNOW im not gay

WELL SAID Indeed




oh shit--danielle responded to my post---complimented me too...Now I have a serious hard on...damn--i might be gay!!!

[sheyum]

..

[whatugotiwant]

C'mon, really?

Straight, gay or bi who the fuck cares? Dude, just live your life. It took me 26 years to realize that the only person I have to proof something to is myself. I really don't care what people think of me anymore, I can only be me. Life is a whole lot funner when you don't care about the stupid shit. Fact of the matter is that, your problem isn't your orientation but the fact that you afraid to be labeled a homo.

Perhaps, you can try recognizing the transition that trans women undergo to achieve "their beauty and spectacular bodies", as temporary and acknowledge them as women. After all, the majority of us are transitioning or have transitioned to become woman and not any other label you may have for us.

Looking at it from a boarder point of view, we're humans and sex is suppose to be fun for us. My philosophy is simple, if you're able to turn me on and I can do the same for you, then we're probably going to hook up, whether you are a man or girl(ts or gg). Personally, I feel that having sex with a ts is only gay if you believe that the individual you're fucking is still a man or if you can't help but feel like a bitch when she's tearing your ass up.
_________________
I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.
~Clarence Darrow I totally agree u turn me on reyna mmmmmmmmm

[celticgrafix]

ive never been with a ts myself, shit, i aint afraid though, haha, one im not gonna spend a dime on any girl for sex, two, dont see enough here in philly to hit on

[deee757]

Sammy, thats a real bummer that you feel that way. I can tell you from experience that once you date a nice TS girl, you will never want to date a GG again.
I'm not talking about buying some time from a working girl, but really dating and having an intimate relationship. like having fun together as well as sex and really getting to know the girl.
Cross the line and give it a try. You wont regret it.

Sorry, that's just crazy to me

[TommyFoxtrot]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

You seem pretty gay to me, just from looking at your posts. I would say go with it...

But most of the TS are scary looking IRL, so maybe that's why you just want to look but not touch. I really can't blame you.

[TsVanessa69]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.
Maybe if you stopped and realized transexuals are not gay, then half the battle is won.
Homosexuality and transexualism are two very different things.

[celticgrafix]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

shit ud be someones bitch in jail

[TommyFoxtrot]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.
Maybe if you stopped and realized transexuals are not gay, then half the battle is won.
Homosexuality and transexualism are two very different things.

I think the gayness comes down to what you want to do with them. But fucking someone born a male would come across as gay to most people, so you have to understand that.

[TommyFoxtrot]

Sometimes I feel like this is as gay as i'm willing to get, just feasting with my eyes and never get in real contact with a TS.

As turned on as I get by their beauty, spectacular bodies, I can never see myself crossing the line.

Maybe it has alot to do with my homophobia towards gay people

A few ts have gotten to really like (love) me in the past, but our relationship never materialize into anything great.

shit ud be someones bitch in jail

Yes, especially with the bubble lips. I plan on staying far away from a jail as long as I live. My ex was a nurse there and she said dudes even bigger than me came in to have their ass checked out after being raped.

[Marilyn]

I'm not gay.


Just like Danielle said...."someone needs therapy"...

You are in denial! It's very obvious

[Marilyn]

I <3 TS do i consider myself gay! I have had a talk with my theripist about this topic actually, I am still 100% straight not bi, not gay straight and not straght curious. MY reasoning is exactly this, in my mind and to my eye a TS is not a male. The have breast they are femme they wear make up, get their nails did, hair did, and dress better and more feeme then most girls i have known or dated. That is what turns me on there level of feminimity, ( sorry 4 spellin) Its not about a cock, or huge cock in my mouth as i see posted here so much. Which leads me to side with Jen. Most guys are gay or at least bi if not total fags and the TS genre and gender allows them to more easily feel comfortable in there feelings and skin.

Me on the other hand would have no issue topping a TS, and even giving a HJ if you can call it that..... but otherwise nope sorry will not bottom and my mouth is for tounges and food. Not cock...... no offnese "ladies" you are gourgous but I view you as women and in my mind if you truely like being a top or being sucked off maybe there is more at hand then you really wanting to be a lady some people state.


PHEW......... I hope ya'll think about what i said and maybe then you will see where you feelings truely come from.!!!


Are you single? :P LOL

[NYBURBS]

I <3 TS do i consider myself gay! I have had a talk with my theripist about this topic actually, I am still 100% straight not bi, not gay straight and not straght curious. MY reasoning is exactly this, in my mind and to my eye a TS is not a male. The have breast they are femme they wear make up, get their nails did, hair did, and dress better and more feeme then most girls i have known or dated. That is what turns me on there level of feminimity, ( sorry 4 spellin) Its not about a cock, or huge cock in my mouth as i see posted here so much. Which leads me to side with Jen. Most guys are gay or at least bi if not total fags and the TS genre and gender allows them to more easily feel comfortable in there feelings and skin.

Me on the other hand would have no issue topping a TS, and even giving a HJ if you can call it that..... but otherwise nope sorry will not bottom and my mouth is for tounges and food. Not cock...... no offnese "ladies" you are gourgous but I view you as women and in my mind if you truely like being a top or being sucked off maybe there is more at hand then you really wanting to be a lady some people state.


PHEW......... I hope ya'll think about what i said and maybe then you will see where you feelings truely come from.!!!

Look live your life as you see fit and enjoy it. BUT.... you and everyone else that thinks that only engaging in certain sex acts with a TS, and not others, somehow separates you from the "total fags" are kidding yourselves.

That's not to say that I think you're gay, or bi, or straight (I don't really care what you are). I'm just pointing out the lunacy in claiming that only fucking them in the ass makes you more straight then a guy that gives them oral or bottoms for them.

[a994]

Well I would say if a man should suck a ts dick, get fucked by a ts, and fuck a ts he is closer to being gay than being straight.

The girls will say anything to keep the gay guys feeling comfortable, but deep down most ts prolly think these guys are fags.

i would agree a man willing to do those things w/ a ts is closer to being on the gay side then he was before he did those things but i wouldnt say that makes him more of a gay man than a straight man

girls do say lots of things to keep the guys feeling comfortable... and then i came along and shit all over that sugar coated dream

i dont think most ts think men into ts women are fags but i cant speak for them .... just myself

and i dont think men into transexuals are fags.... but i do think a good portion of men on this and other TS boards are a lot more open to the idea that they arent likely to hook up w/ actual 24/7 hot trannies so they lower their standards and often times that means theyll take a small framed man in makeup to justify their ease into full on faggotry

:D

Cool explanation tsntx. And welcome back. I for one missed you. :)

[Nalos6]

Gay, Straight, Bi, and the like of labels are nothing more than stereotypical understandings of what people like or dislike sexually. Don't get too caught up in the worlds bullshit, it won't serve you and you'll only have an unfulfilled life if you do.

If you like something go for it, if it doesn't serve you, throw it to the wayside. In the end it has nothing to do with labels.

[jcinva]

OP, it comes down to this:

Axiom 1. Born with a penis = guy. Period.

After you're born, you can paint it, grease it, stretch it, or lop it off.
Still guy. It's in the blood. Lit'rally.

Axiom 2. Guy having sex with guy = gay. Period.

That includes guy fucking guy in ass, guy sucking other guy's penis.
Don't matter if you ignore the penis entirely or if the other person really, really hates their penis and wishes it weren't there.

You might be eligible for a pass if you're having sex with one of the aforementioned penis-loppers and really, truly didn't know it was a guy. Current state of surgery today, could happen, I guess.

But, if you call up Danielle and hook up with her and you've got a whole stack of Danielle DVDs from back in her fully-penile days, well, you can't really, genuinely avail yourself of that particular defense, can ya?

So - 1. They're guys; and 2. You did or do or want to do a gay thing.

Dealwiddit. You're grown up. Do you ask permission to go to the bathroom, or jerk off to internet porn, too?

Nuff with the denial and the lies and the all the lying bullshit just for the sake of sucking a dick or getting plowed without compromising masculinity or heterosexuality.

'Sides - some of these TS's are monstrous smokin'. More than a few of the assholes who'd be busting your balls for taggin', say, Kimber James, would be seething with jealousy.

[AverageJob]

Homosexuality and transexualism are two very different things.yet theyre in the same boat and there is no denying that

[jcinva]

I <3 TS do i consider myself gay! I have had a talk with my theripist about this topic actually, I am still 100% straight not bi, not gay straight and not straght curious. MY reasoning is exactly this, in my mind and to my eye a TS is not a male. The have breast they are femme they wear make up, get their nails did, hair did, and dress better and more feeme then most girls i have known or dated. That is what turns me on there level of feminimity, ( sorry 4 spellin) Its not about a cock, or huge cock in my mouth as i see posted here so much. Which leads me to side with Jen. Most guys are gay or at least bi if not total fags and the TS genre and gender allows them to more easily feel comfortable in there feelings and skin.

Me on the other hand would have no issue topping a TS, and even giving a HJ if you can call it that..... but otherwise nope sorry will not bottom and my mouth is for tounges and food. Not cock...... no offnese "ladies" you are gourgous but I view you as women and in my mind if you truely like being a top or being sucked off maybe there is more at hand then you really wanting to be a lady some people state.


PHEW......... I hope ya'll think about what i said and maybe then you will see where you feelings truely come from.!!!

I have thought about what you "said," xxemox, and decided you have a far greater issue to deal with than whether you're gay or straight.

You're a complete moron who evidently checked out of the education process somewhere around third grade.

Anyone having sex with you, sticking all them "tounges" in your mouth, is committing some sort of intellectual statutory rape.

Is anyone checking IDs on this board?
Anyone?

[TommyFoxtrot]

I <3 TS do i consider myself gay! I have had a talk with my theripist about this topic actually, I am still 100% straight not bi, not gay straight and not straght curious. MY reasoning is exactly this, in my mind and to my eye a TS is not a male. The have breast they are femme they wear make up, get their nails did, hair did, and dress better and more feeme then most girls i have known or dated. That is what turns me on there level of feminimity, ( sorry 4 spellin) Its not about a cock, or huge cock in my mouth as i see posted here so much. Which leads me to side with Jen. Most guys are gay or at least bi if not total fags and the TS genre and gender allows them to more easily feel comfortable in there feelings and skin.

Me on the other hand would have no issue topping a TS, and even giving a HJ if you can call it that..... but otherwise nope sorry will not bottom and my mouth is for tounges and food. Not cock...... no offnese "ladies" you are gourgous but I view you as women and in my mind if you truely like being a top or being sucked off maybe there is more at hand then you really wanting to be a lady some people state.


PHEW......... I hope ya'll think about what i said and maybe then you will see where you feelings truely come from.!!!

Look live your life as you see fit and enjoy it. BUT.... you and everyone else that thinks that only engaging in certain sex acts with a TS, and not others, somehow separates you from the "total fags" are kidding yourselves.

That's not to say that I think you're gay, or bi, or straight (I don't really care what you are). I'm just pointing out the lunacy in claiming that only fucking them in the ass makes you more straight then a guy that gives them oral or bottoms for them.

I think it does. Plenty of others too. For that matter I would consider a dude who lets women fuck him with strapons kind of gay too. Had a coworker who used to talk about it (unsolicited too) and that his wife was the one who initiated it...yeah well...he's Mr. Gay pride now, instead of having a wife he's someone's "wifey".

I'm not saying being here chatting about fucking TS and watching TS's get fucked on camera makes me "straight." But if there's a straight to gay index, the folks who are here because they love sucking dicks and getting fucked are closer to the gay than the folks who don't enjoy that.

I know it's not p.c. to say it, but that's what I believe.

[TommyFoxtrot]

OP, it comes down to this:

Axiom 1. Born with a penis = guy. Period.

After you're born, you can paint it, grease it, stretch it, or lop it off.
Still guy. It's in the blood. Lit'rally.

Axiom 2. Guy having sex with guy = gay. Period.

That includes guy fucking guy in ass, guy sucking other guy's penis.
Don't matter if you ignore the penis entirely or if the other person really, really hates their penis and wishes it weren't there.

You might be eligible for a pass if you're having sex with one of the aforementioned penis-loppers and really, truly didn't know it was a guy. Current state of surgery today, could happen, I guess.

But, if you call up Danielle and hook up with her and you've got a whole stack of Danielle DVDs from back in her fully-penile days, well, you can't really, genuinely avail yourself of that particular defense, can ya?

So - 1. They're guys; and 2. You did or do or want to do a gay thing.

Dealwiddit. You're grown up. Do you ask permission to go to the bathroom, or jerk off to internet porn, too?

Nuff with the denial and the lies and the all the lying bullshit just for the sake of sucking a dick or getting plowed without compromising masculinity or heterosexuality.

'Sides - some of these TS's are monstrous smokin'. More than a few of the assholes who'd be busting your balls for taggin', say, Kimber James, would be seething with jealousy.


Fair enough. But what does this last part mean?

[Silcc69]

Why did we have to revisit this thread?

[lahabra1976]

not sure, I remember this guy he created a lot of threads like this that were absurd. But as far as I know, he is long gone cause I remember he mentioned he didn't want to anything to do with tgirls cause he didn't want to go to hell...LOL