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Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-03-2009, 04:16 AM
The males of most mammalian species have a definite urge towards seeking variety in their sexual partners. If a male rat is introduced to a female rat in a cage, a remarkably high copulation rate will be observed at first. Then, progressively, the male will tire of that particular female and, even though there is no apparent change in her receptivity, he eventually reaches a point where he has little apparent libido. However, if the original female is then removed and a fresh one supplied, the male is immediately restored to his former vigor and enthusiasm. --Glenn Wilson, The Great Sex Divide

What's your take?

~Kisses.

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ef9hatchman
01-03-2009, 04:19 AM
The males of most mammalian species have a definite urge towards seeking variety in their sexual partners. If a male rat is introduced to a female rat in a cage, a remarkably high copulation rate will be observed at first. Then, progressively, the male will tire of that particular female and, even though there is no apparent change in her receptivity, he eventually reaches a point where he has little apparent libido. However, if the original female is then removed and a fresh one supplied, the male is immediately restored to his former vigor and enthusiasm. --Glenn Wilson, The Great Sex Divide

What's your take?

~Kisses.

HTG

That rat sex is wrong lol.
Uhm dont rats fuck like crazy....if so the female rats can simply not produce anymore so the male rat tires of her.

Oli
01-03-2009, 04:20 AM
The first female rat let her appearance go?

Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-03-2009, 04:22 AM
The first female rat let her appearance go?

I wouldn't exactly say that. Umm maybe familiarity = boredom? Look at married couples. ;)

~Kisses.

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ef9hatchman
01-03-2009, 04:25 AM
The first female rat let her appearance go?

I wouldn't exactly say that. Umm maybe familiarity = boredom? Look at married couples. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG
What about married couples?
I know this 99 year old Lady kindest lady ive ever met. Her husband died in 2000 and they never took marriage lightly.

The lady gave me 40 for fixing her cabinet a 2.50 fix I tried to say NO but she said in the future I will need to have things fixed So regretably I accept it but thought it was wrong still.

Oli
01-03-2009, 04:45 AM
I wouldn't exactly say that. Umm maybe familiarity = boredom? Look at married couples. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara,
Familiarity doesn't equate to boredom if you are stimulated in other ways.

If sex is the only way you can connect with others, then I would agree. But unlike rats in a lab we engage each other on many different levels and multiple ways.

And a big 'whoooooosh' at my joke before :D

Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-03-2009, 04:56 AM
I wouldn't exactly say that. Umm maybe familiarity = boredom? Look at married couples. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara,
Familiarity doesn't equate to boredom if you are stimulated in other ways.

If sex is the only way you can connect with others, then I would agree. But unlike rats in a lab we engage each other on many different levels and multiple ways.



That concept does not explain the high divorce rate and cheating couples now does it? lol ;)

~Kisses.

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Oli
01-03-2009, 05:04 AM
That concept does not explain the high divorce rate and cheating couples now does it? lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

True. Conversely your original post is disproved by successful long term marriages and partnerships!

Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-03-2009, 05:05 AM
Which by the way are very few nowadays! lol ;)

~Kisses.

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unctrld1
01-03-2009, 05:12 AM
Those scientists needed rats and a study to learn something I learned at the age 12.

I can't speak for women, of course, but me and nearly every man I have ever met craves variety. I can be monogamous, but it is a practice of discipline. My first impulse is to "cop and blow", or get as many women as I can when I can.

"It's a man thing, Gina - a man thing."
- Martin Lawrence

Oli
01-03-2009, 05:15 AM
Not really. The divorce rate is somewhere around 50%. How many are repeat offenders?

That means half do work.

People marry for a million reasons, most not very good. Bristol Palin is about to become an example. People who marry young (under 25) have a tremendous divorce rate. Those over 40 who marry for the first time have a minuscule divorce rate. Is that a biological thing or a maturity thing? IDK.

JonnyT
01-03-2009, 05:30 AM
What Are Women Really Attracted To?

By Matthew Fitzgerald
Relationship Correspondent
Every Monday

The male sex drive is uncomplicated and honest. Men are visual. The hot-blooded sexual response to the sight of a good-looking young woman has been hard-wired into the male brain thanks to millions of years of evolution -- the average guy can no more stop ogling, lusting and urging to merge than he can stop eating or sleeping.

But what about women? Just what do they find attractive about men? Read any typical survey and you'll be informed that what really turns them on is a sense of humor, confidence, consideration of others, etc. In other words, according to women, all you have to do is to be a nice guy and they'll come running.

REALITY CHECK TIME

Never listen to what a woman says -- always pay attention to what she actually does instead. The two are quite frequently worlds apart, because women are masters at self-deceit and equally adept at lying to themselves about their own behavior.

Cross-cultural evidence from different societies consistently reveals that what women really want from men are economic resources. Studies with college coeds show that when shown photographs of men dressed in high-status uniforms (suits, ties, expensive watches, etc.) and low-status uniforms, these women would be significantly more willing to enter into relationships with the more expensively-attired males regardless of the man's physical appearance .

To a woman, attraction is simple: green is very good-looking. And these same studies found that college men were convinced that magnifying their status (implying greater earning power) would lead to increased sexual activity.

Thus men were forced to rely on such attraction tactics as driving expensive cars, bragging about accomplishments, and emphasizing present or future earning power, while women, on the other hand, packaged themselves as commodities with make-up, jewelry, hairstyles, and shape-revealing clothing.

Evolution says women want more sex, not money

TALKIN' ABOUT AN EVOLUTION

Evolutionary psychologists like Dr. David Buss believe that present-day mate selection behaviors were founded in the Stone Age. Buss' recent survey of over 10,000 people in 37 countries, on six continents, reports that men consistently prize physical attraction and youth in their potential mates, while women value ambition, status, and financial resources.

In evolutionary terms, men seek out sexually desirable females whose youthful features indicate good health and the ability to bear children, while women look for mates with abundant enough resources to provide for their children.

So does this mean that women are genetically programmed to seek out only high-status men with lots of money and resources, and to disdain more average guys with lesser earning power -- that what women really go for is that big bulge in a man's pants (his wallet)?

WOMEN WANT SEX TOO

Enter Dr. Tim Birkhead of the University of Sheffield (England), author of the ground-breaking Promiscuity: An Evolutionary History of Sperm Competition . With research spanning the broad spectrum of the animal kingdom, Birkhead discovered that female promiscuity -- that is, females having sex with multiple partners, sometimes regardless of their resources or status -- is the norm rather than the exception.

In fact, females of most species, from damselflies to penguins, routinely copulate with several different mates. And this is especially true among the higher mammals, such as chimpanzees and bonobos, with whom humans share approximately 99% of DNA.

According to Jane Goodall ( The Chimpanzees of Gombe ), a female chimp may mate with different males of her group as many as 50 times a day, and will actively seek out low-status chimps from other bands for even more sexual encounters.

And bonobos, who act and appear even more similar to humans than chimps, are the real swingers of the animal kingdom -- they participate in virtual gang-bangs and sex (even lesbian sex) solely for the sake of pleasure.

SO WHY THE MONEY ANGLE?

Of course, for women the implications are staggering. According to Birkhead, human females are genetically programmed to be promiscuous. And if Birkhead is right -- that we share common evolutionary behavior with chimps and bonobos -- this means that women should be attracted to and willing to have sex with men regardless of status. Women should not be using dating and marriage as a business.

Yet in human society, women are still selling it and men are still forced to pay for it.

Why?

Because women think with their vaginas -- that is, they use their awesome sexual power to control, manipulate, and get what they want from men. And men let them get away with it.

But in this day and age of equal rights, when women are earning excellent incomes and claim that they have no need for men to support them any more (but still hypocritically expect men to pay for them), maybe it's time for women to finally be honest.

Maybe it's time for women to jettison the manipulative greed, which so characterizes their gender, and seek out men of any status, as apparently nature has intended. Maybe it's time for women to start having sex for the sake of enjoyment instead of cold-bloodedly using it as a tool to feather their own nests.

THE CHOICE IS YOURS

Men, you have two choices: either continue on as financial slaves and sacrifice your manhood on the altar of female greed; or stand up for yourselves right now -- refuse to be sex-ploited any longer.

Then maybe, just maybe, women can be as nature intended: sexually honest, like men.

Matthew Fitzgerald is the author of Sex-Ploytation. He has appeared on radio shows from coast-to-coast in the United States and in Canada, and has been featured on the Montel show and The Other Half.

Next.......

dan_drade
01-03-2009, 05:38 AM
The males of most mammalian species have a definite urge towards seeking variety in their sexual partners. If a male rat is introduced to a female rat in a cage, a remarkably high copulation rate will be observed at first. Then, progressively, the male will tire of that particular female and, even though there is no apparent change in her receptivity, he eventually reaches a point where he has little apparent libido. However, if the original female is then removed and a fresh one supplied, the male is immediately restored to his former vigor and enthusiasm. --Glenn Wilson, The Great Sex Divide

What's your take?

~Kisses.

HTG

Makes sense to me. Why do you think that there are drugs like Viagra and Cialis? ED (Erectile Dysfunction) = Same old lady every night!!! LOL.

JonnyT
01-03-2009, 05:47 AM
The males of most mammalian species have a definite urge towards seeking variety in their sexual partners. If a male rat is introduced to a female rat in a cage, a remarkably high copulation rate will be observed at first. Then, progressively, the male will tire of that particular female and, even though there is no apparent change in her receptivity, he eventually reaches a point where he has little apparent libido. However, if the original female is then removed and a fresh one supplied, the male is immediately restored to his former vigor and enthusiasm. --Glenn Wilson, The Great Sex Divide

What's your take?

~Kisses.

HTG

the reality is that it is the female of most species including mammalian that are the promiscuous ones. see the article above. :wink:

Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-03-2009, 05:49 AM
Makes sense to me. Why do you think that there are drugs like Viagra and Cialis? ED (Erectile Dysfunction) = Same old lady every night!!! LOL.

Ditto..same old man every night! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-03-2009, 05:52 AM
the reality is that it is the female of most species including mammalian that are the promiscuous ones. see the article above. :wink:

And here's that articles counterpart: lol

http://www.menaredogsbook.com/

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

dan_drade
01-03-2009, 05:53 AM
Makes sense to me. Why do you think that there are drugs like Viagra and Cialis? ED (Erectile Dysfunction) = Same old lady every night!!! LOL.

Ditto..same old man every night! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

LOL, so true. I guess it works both ways!!!

JonnyT
01-03-2009, 05:57 AM
the reality is that it is the female of most species including mammalian that are the promiscuous ones. see the article above. :wink:

And here's that articles counterpart: lol

http://www.menaredogsbook.com/

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

lol, well that throws any serious convo right out the door :lol:

muhmuh
01-03-2009, 06:02 AM
What Are Women Really Attracted To?

remarkably similar to the kind or dreary rubbish you read on pickup forums and other places where perpetually single men gather

JonnyT
01-03-2009, 06:06 AM
What Are Women Really Attracted To?

remarkably similar to the kind or dreary rubbish you read on pickup forums and other places where perpetually single men gather

similar but different :) are you married?

muhmuh
01-03-2009, 06:13 AM
What Are Women Really Attracted To?

remarkably similar to the kind or dreary rubbish you read on pickup forums and other places where perpetually single men gather

similar but different :) are you married?

superficially different at its core its the same 'its all the womens fault' nonsense thats so abundant across the interblag and no
also i promise if youre boring fugly and misogynistic that ferrari and rolex wont help you get laid

Oli
01-03-2009, 06:27 AM
i promise if youre boring fugly and misogynistic that ferrari and rolex wont help you get laid

ROFLMAO :lol:

Azrial
01-03-2009, 07:49 AM
what if they gave the female rat a cock?

Danielle Foxx
01-03-2009, 08:49 AM
Cross-cultural evidence from different societies consistently reveals that what women really want from men are economic resources. Studies with college coeds show that when shown photographs of men dressed in high-status uniforms (suits, ties, expensive watches, etc.) and low-status uniforms, these women would be significantly more willing to enter into relationships with the more expensively-attired males regardless of the man's physical appearance .

OMG this guy is so full of it LOL

It has nothing to do with money for me at least. I love sex and chemistry and that is how it should be. Attraction is deeper then money, deeper then anything really. I seriously could care less if he delivered pizza as long as he was a hard working honest man...with a really nice penis and nice smelly hairless ass... LOL

JonnyT
01-03-2009, 08:55 AM
The males of most mammalian species have a definite urge towards seeking variety in their sexual partners. If a male rat is introduced to a female rat in a cage, a remarkably high copulation rate will be observed at first. Then, progressively, the male will tire of that particular female and, even though there is no apparent change in her receptivity, he eventually reaches a point where he has little apparent libido. However, if the original female is then removed and a fresh one supplied, the male is immediately restored to his former vigor and enthusiasm. --Glenn Wilson, The Great Sex Divide

What's your take?

~Kisses.

HTG

Muhmuh wrote:

superficially different at its core its the same 'its all the womens fault' nonsense thats so abundant across the interblag and no
also i promise if youre boring fugly and misogynistic that ferrari and rolex wont help you get laid

Ok now....
lets go back to the OP. It begins as "its all the males fault". the article is a counter to that. add something insightful and with some thought rather than shooting the messenger.

What is your input relative to the OP theory? just curious. knocking people adds no value just more wasted space. :P

JonnyT
01-03-2009, 09:10 AM
Cross-cultural evidence from different societies consistently reveals that what women really want from men are economic resources. Studies with college coeds show that when shown photographs of men dressed in high-status uniforms (suits, ties, expensive watches, etc.) and low-status uniforms, these women would be significantly more willing to enter into relationships with the more expensively-attired males regardless of the man's physical appearance .

OMG this guy is so full of it LOL

It has nothing to do with money for me at least. I love sex and chemistry and that is how it should be. Attraction is deeper then money, deeper then anything really. I seriously could care less if he delivered pizza as long as he was a hard working honest man...with a really nice penis and nice smelly hairless ass... LOL


hi danielle, i didnt write the article...lol
glad you have your priorities straight. many ladies do not. they go after the money and then screw around on the side with the guys they are really attracted to. neither men nor women are perfect but 50% of married couples do figure out a way to make it work and work is the operative word here. im sure it ain't easy.

yodajazz
01-03-2009, 11:28 AM
One thing that many people leave out in talking about ltr's, are children. Once she carries it for nine months and then it comes out helpless, you can't help but love them. Men get a lot less attention after children come into the picture. And it never seems to end. The kids still need things or have issues after they become grown.

DL_NL
01-03-2009, 03:14 PM
That concept does not explain the high divorce rate and cheating couples now does it? lol ;)
No, but not thinking about the consequences before getting married does. People approach marriage much like they do money loans- enjoy now, think later.

Space_Cowboy
01-03-2009, 04:32 PM
His statement is true in the fact that it does, to a certain degree, accurately describe the procreation process for a number mammalian species.
It is not uncommon for the male of the species to place more emphasis on the impregnation of multiple females than a singular. This is quite normal in nature where the survival of a species is more often than not dependent on numbers of offspring.
This rat is most likely just frustrated that he is unable to spread his genes around, as it will most likely have no input into the maternity process and would normally be off to have his way with another rat.
To compare the sexual behaviour of rats to humans is a bit obscene, although they do possess some higher brain functions; they will have no understanding of love or attraction and are simply acting on inbuilt instructions buried in their DNA.
A better comparison would be dolphins or elephants.

SXFX
01-03-2009, 06:04 PM
Because if they went lesbian I would cry!
Ladies pleas don't go lesbo on me pleas!
Bi ok but no full on lesbo ok!
Now give me a hug before I get scared.!

SXFX
01-03-2009, 06:29 PM
The article is very true!
I've seen it with my own eyes.
Girls, even in this day and age are into guys who appear to be financially secure. If he looks good, doesn't smell too bad and only slaps you around once in a while that's just an added bonus.

Look here is how it goes.
Men age like fine wine, we get better and better with age. We mellow out, we become more self confidant, we become more financially stable.

Women? More like French bread. Your average typical good looking girl has a finite time to catch the man she wants. After that it's all down hill unless she wishes to spends tens of thousands to keep her looks up.

And to add insult to injury, as a friend once put it. Every second of every day another gorgeous 17 year old girl turns 18.

The odds are not in your favor when it comes to long terms stable relationships.

As for the rat? Well what's that old saying? "No matter what you do, you can't turn old pussy into new pussy!"

muhmuh
01-03-2009, 09:02 PM
A better comparison would be dolphins or elephants.

yes because obviously life in the ocean or savanna is a perfeclty valid comparison to modern human city life

and before anyone here would like to try that evolutionary psychology bs again consider what youre saying about youself by claiming that your brain and moral fibre hasnt changed one bit in the last 60.000 years


Men age like fine wine, we get better and better with age.

how old and bald must a guy be before he starts telling that to himself?

Jericho
01-03-2009, 09:07 PM
Men age like fine wine, we get better and better with age.

how old and bald must a guy be before he starts telling that to himself?

44! :lol:

sucka4chix
01-03-2009, 09:18 PM
That concept does not explain the high divorce rate and cheating couples now does it? lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

True. Conversely your original post is disproved by successful long term marriages and partnerships!
No, it's not. Just because a relationship is long and successful, doesn't mean the man didn't want "a different rat". It doesn't even mean he didn't have another rat or two, it simply means the couple stayed together. Further more you don't know if a 40 year marriage will fail in year 41.
Men are hard wired to spread their seed and alot of man's fidelity is directly attributable to opportunity. Some one spoke of young people failing at marriage more than older mature folk, well most young men have far more opportunities to cheat than older ones.
I've known men from other cultures who have been married a long time, but tell me "a man has got to be a man"... This is their explanation for having sex with many girls outside of their marriage. They feel their love for their wife and the natural desire to have sex with others are 2 separate things!

Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-04-2009, 06:28 AM
Great points sucka4chix! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Carlos
01-04-2009, 06:49 AM
True I'd luv to fuck a dif chick every night but It would be in bliss if I could have just one that could be my everything.

A married woman can do a million things to keep the relationship hot but they don't. Its not always the woman's fault correct but lets face it dudes are dumb & simple. feed us, fuck us good, make sure you look good to us & we'll be with u till the end of time.

Chicks can buy sexy lingerie, wigs, toys, get a lil freaky with it and dudes will get married.

But I've talked a a lot of chicks & they say that that shit is just too much work & effort. They expect more of the guy.

lol, but hey what do i know.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
01-04-2009, 07:00 AM
Here's more on the subject:

Old Cow/New Cow

Posted by rabayl on April 25, 2008

Many moons ago, a dear friend of mine suggested I watch the movie Someone Like You because ‘it told the story of my life’. Admittedly, it isn’t the most unique of stories but when I watched it, it rang a thousand bells inside me! The main character in the movie, Ashley Judd, always finds herself in flawed relationships and after some drunken contemplation devises the Old Cow/New Cow theory.

The Old Cow/New Cow theory says that once a bull mates with a cow, it will not go back to it again. First, a bull was presented with a cow. They mated. The next day, the bull was presented with the same cow. The bull wasn’t interested. He wanted new cow, and this was old cow. Curious to see if they could trick the bull, the scientists came up with an ingenious ploy. The old cow was smeared with new cow scent. But he was no fool.

Ridiculous though that analogy sounds, I was hysterics today when I came across a research that claimed that anthropologically, the theory is right! I hate to reduce love to a simple biological imperative, but the study noted that what we suckers call love is actually the “mating call of the wild”, and that the head over heels feeling that we associate with love is a hormonal response that lasts approximately 18 months - long enough to get laid, get pregnant, have the Neanderthals around long enough to protect us while we are waddling around, and nursing our newborn. Then he (and us too) lose interest and look around for another cave dweller.

The theory is that this biological programming would allow enough different genetic material to be swapped around to have a nice healthy Neanderthal tribe.

18 months; average age of all my relationships.

Interesting? I didn’t think so either!

Eddie: It’s over. Why can’t you just let it go?
Jane: I can’t.
Eddie: Why?
Jane: Because I was happy. Because if this theory is wrong, men don’t leave all women, Eddie, they leave me.
Eddie: I know it hurts. I know. It’s so hard to believe that something that wonderful can ever happen to us again.

SOURCE: http://rabayl.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/old-cownew-cow/

~Kisses.

HTG

ef9hatchman
01-04-2009, 07:28 AM
Its over.....? Bah Humbug.

transmaven
01-04-2009, 07:34 PM
it's pretty simple

when the male's libido is high he wants it all, and all the time

but when he reaches the dreaded andropause

he may look for other virtues in a companion, and those are discovered over time

most men only have a brief period of truly intense libido

esp. in this emasculated culture