Question for the guys here about the girls

[slinky]

In general, do you think that tranny's are "tranny chaser" chasers?

[BeardedOne]

Interesting question.

It comes down to the same queries of GGs: Do women prefer to be with the kind of guy they wouldn't be caught dead with?

[slinky]

I din't think that really is the question. If you see it like that, then the only feasible answer is "no". So, I think it's a little more open than a tautology. And so far 40% have answered "Yes", so at least they don't see it that way.

[flabbybody]

if you're talking about a tranny party the answer is yes. the girls are there to make coin and naturally seek out the guys who come out to pay for their company. in their off hours they wouldn't be caught dead with a guy who they considered a chaser

[DL_NL]

Some girls hang out here to promote their businesses, for amusement purposes, to boost their egos.

There's no single answer.

[BeardedOne]

if you're talking about a tranny party the answer is yes. the girls are there to make coin and naturally seek out the guys who come out to pay for their company. in their off hours they wouldn't be caught dead with a guy who they considered a chaser

I reiterate my statement.

[slinky]

NO. I'm NOT talking about at a tranny party. I'm talking about IN REAL LIFE: In real life, are tranny's looking to hook up with tranny chasers - what do the guys here think?

[hondarobot]

Obviously no, I imagine. Why the hell would they want to?

[Legend]

NO. I'm NOT talking about at a tranny party. I'm talking about IN REAL LIFE: In real life, are tranny's looking to hook up with tranny chasers - what do the guys here think?

No, i see it as they don't want guys who are into transsexuals let alone a pathetic chaser in real life.

[tsntx]

the ONLY time a ts is looking for a chaser is when rents due or theres a good sale at bebe

[Lick UR Lovely]

the ONLY time a ts is looking for a chaser is when rents due or theres a good sale at bebe

How much is your rent TSNTX? :P

[tsntx]

the ONLY time a ts is looking for a chaser is when rents due or theres a good sale at bebe

How much is your rent TSNTX? :P

i pay around a K a month for my 2bd condo

[Sunny Dee-lite]

It is a very interesting question....I have dated men in my life that haven't ever dated a ts before and that was a mess! They question everything they do....It basically turns into an "Am I Gay " on H.A.! But in real life. .....I have dated men that know that they like Trannies so i guess that would make them Chasers...And still have had problems....So for me I have decided I never want to date again! LOL! Chasers in my opinion are not people you wouldn't want to be seen with...Many attractive men come to my parties that I consider to be Chasers...I think the proper word for the type of man the girls don't want to be with in Daylight is the "SERIAL KILLER LOOK"...Which we see...And stalk us in stores and follow us home and have no social skills....I think that is what the girls don't like :lol:

[hwbs]

i would call it 50/50....u get the ones that say they only want to date a guy who never been with a ts... ( to me all that means is they want a guy who is naive so they can manipulate them cause they have no other source for info)

then the ones who like guys that are experienced and don't have to train them.....

just when u think u have all the answers , lmfao

[tsntx]

It is a very interesting question....I have dated men in my life that haven't ever dated a ts before and that was a mess! They question everything they do....It basically turns into an "Am I Gay " on H.A.! But in real life. .....I have dated men that know that they like Trannies so i guess that would make them Chasers...And still have had problems....So for me I have decided I never want to date again! LOL! Chasers in my opinion are not people you wouldn't want to be seen with...Many attractive men come to my parties that I consider to be Chasers...I think the proper word for the type of man the girls don't want to be with in Daylight is the "SERIAL KILLER LOOK"...Which we see...And stalk us in stores and follow us home and have no social skills....I think that is what the girls don't like :lol:

the good looking ones are the scarier ones.... they trick you into thinking they arent the same as the "serial killer types"... and theyre right, they arent.... theyre worse



my place is pretty nice 1200 sqft, utility room, a yard which is great since i have 2 dogs now

the rents going down... if it goes down enough ill stay... otherwise im getting a house

[JamesHunt]

In general, do you think that tranny's are "tranny chaser" chasers?

Nice question. IMHO, it's the character that counts in the long run, irrespective of cock/pussy/ass/tits etc :roll:

[dan_drade]

In general, do you think that tranny's are "tranny chaser" chasers?

Thats a pretty stupid fucking question. I doubt that any respectable Transsexual woman is a tranny chaser chaser. From what I know, most girls would love to find a straight "normal" guy and nothing less. Like GG's, some like super hot guys and some like regular guys. Either way, I'm sure a straight normal guy is the desired type of man.

With that said. there are a lot of girls that I know that settle for "tranny chasers" because it's very hard to find a straight guy that is into Transsexual woman.

[ARMANIXXX]

It is a very interesting question....I have dated men in my life that haven't ever dated a ts before and that was a mess! They question everything they do....It basically turns into an "Am I Gay " on H.A.! But in real life. .....I have dated men that know that they like Trannies so i guess that would make them Chasers...And still have had problems....So for me I have decided I never want to date again! LOL! Chasers in my opinion are not people you wouldn't want to be seen with...Many attractive men come to my parties that I consider to be Chasers...I think the proper word for the type of man the girls don't want to be with in Daylight is the "SERIAL KILLER LOOK"...Which we see...And stalk us in stores and follow us home and have no social skills....I think that is what the girls don't like :lol:


So,

if a guy likes TS's and or has any passing interest in TS women, he is thus a "Chaser"? Is that how this works?

[Remy757Photog]

I consider a 'tranny chaser' to be the prominscous guys that try to shag nearly every hot tg that they see with no inclinations to holding a serious 1 on 1 relationship with any of them. Just liking TG's in general doesn't really make you a chaser.

Most gals don't want the str8 guy whose never been with a tg, as it means the guy is liable to have all kinds of mental issues regarding how to deal with ts in general public and being comfortable with her situation.

I chose 'NO' most all the tg's I know keep the chasers at arm's length. Regardless of the 'label' it should be their personality that is the deciding factor.

[Shining Star]

Am going to have to agree with Sunny Dee-Light (gasp), since I also have been with "chasers" and supposedly "St8" guys, either way they drive you up the wall.

There are so few men out there willing to enter into a serious relationship, versus the vast numbers looking to either "eat and run" or "hit and run", that chasers out number the rest by far.

Clubs, personal adverts, CL, chat groups, where ever you meet them, chances are if a guy who calls himself "straight", yet accepts a trannie a bit too easy and worse jumps on one's tackle like a monkey on cup cake, he's a "chaser" or at least will help out if there is a rush.

Have run into guys one dated years ago, and once the conversation gets going, it usually comes out they have been "dating" trannies since, and worse the sex requested which once was mainly oral (guy on trannie), has moved to full fledged anal (guy bottom), requests for "co***ing all over me), and so forth. In short they are not full card carrying members of the chaser club.

What strikes one is that all if not most of these men consider themselves St8, and always want the hottest "passable" trannie they can get their hands on. Why one does not know since they almost never want to appear in public with a girl, unless it is to get off on some fantasy about having this most beautiful "gir", yet take her home and suck and get plowed.

Go figure.

[tsntx]

What strikes one is that all if not most of these men consider themselves St8, and always want the hottest "passable" trannie they can get their hands on. Why one does not know since they almost never want to appear in public with a girl, unless it is to get off on some fantasy about having this most beautiful "gir", yet take her home and suck and get plowed.

Go figure.


lmao THAT is the thing that gets me the most

why do these faggots need the "hottest, most passable, most natal female" ts out there .... only to not go ANYWHERE public and just go home to suck her off

[dan_drade]

What strikes one is that all if not most of these men consider themselves St8, and always want the hottest "passable" trannie they can get their hands on. Why one does not know since they almost never want to appear in public with a girl, unless it is to get off on some fantasy about having this most beautiful "gir", yet take her home and suck and get plowed.

Go figure.


lmao THAT is the thing that gets me the most

why do these faggots need the "hottest, most passable, most natal female" ts out there .... only to not go ANYWHERE public and just go home to suck her off


LOL, thats a good one. I used to do that excatly. The good news is that after I dated enough TS girls, I finally figured out that hiding them and having sex is not all that fun after a while. There comes a time when you just have to go out with them and have real fun. Although sex is fun, its not the only form of fun.

[hondarobot]

What strikes one is that all if not most of these men consider themselves St8, and always want the hottest "passable" trannie they can get their hands on. Why one does not know since they almost never want to appear in public with a girl, unless it is to get off on some fantasy about having this most beautiful "gir", yet take her home and suck and get plowed.

Go figure.


lmao THAT is the thing that gets me the most

why do these faggots need the "hottest, most passable, most natal female" ts out there .... only to not go ANYWHERE public and just go home to suck her off


LOL, thats a good one. I used to do that excatly. The good news is that after I dated enough TS girls, I finally figured out that hiding them and having sex is not all that fun after a while. There comes a time when you just have to go out with them and have real fun. Although sex is fun, its not the only form of fun.

Does anyone know who this guy is? I'm just curious.

:lol:

[Shining Star]

What strikes one is that all if not most of these men consider themselves St8, and always want the hottest "passable" trannie they can get their hands on. Why one does not know since they almost never want to appear in public with a girl, unless it is to get off on some fantasy about having this most beautiful "gir", yet take her home and suck and get plowed.

Go figure.


lmao THAT is the thing that gets me the most

why do these faggots need the "hottest, most passable, most natal female" ts out there .... only to not go ANYWHERE public and just go home to suck her off


LOL, thats a good one. I used to do that excatly. The good news is that after I dated enough TS girls, I finally figured out that hiding them and having sex is not all that fun after a while. There comes a time when you just have to go out with them and have real fun. Although sex is fun, its not the only form of fun.Have my own theory:

The more beautiful and non-manly looking the trannie is, the more the guy can delude himself that what he is doing sexually is not gay sex.

One sees it on CL adverts all the time. "Hot", "Passable", and so forth only need apply. Granted some of the young boys and men perhaps do have some right to wish a physically attractive trannie, that is if their photographs are to be believed, but then they always want a trannie to pack donkey sized tackle, and it must work. What is up with that?

You want to see chasers? Put up a CL advert basically stating one is a hot, beautiful, passable, yadda, yadda, trannie, looking for NSA sex. Your inbox will start overflowing within minutes.

[tsntx]

so true ^

[flabbybody]

but the most beautiful and non-manly trannies are generally not the ones getting the most attention at the parties. I'll go so far to say that total passability is not what chasers are seeking in their girls

i'm ready to get bombed

[Shining Star]

All I'm saying is that for the most part, a trannie may not have a choice but "chasers" when it comes to the men she sees.

A chaser is nothing more than a horn-dog who instead of making GGs his sole focus, includes or totally seeks trannies. There are lots of men who make a career of sleeping with as many girls as possible, heck it is the basis of the character "Charlie" on "Two and Half Men".

You are starting to see more guys seek out trannies, that are "top" only and only will receive oral. Many of these guys probably would have been a "top" only in a gay situation. It is rumored gay men (and to extend trannies), give better oral than most women, and anal sex can be "tighter".

With a pre-op trannie one also has someone who can have a sex drive that is still pretty masculine. That is their motivation for sex is higher than your average female. For man to find a "woman" who wants sex as often as he does, is like finding a winning powerball ticket.

Keep bringing up CL, because it presents an unique and quick way to see just what is going on with the community.

Again you will see lots of CL posts, many with pictures of dicks hanging out (what is UP with THAT?), cleary stating all the guy wants is sex. In fact if you will let him do you or do you and go, he is a happy camper. Some even dangle funds as a sweetener to perhaps coax some of the more hotter girls to take the bait. Assuming that is that many of the hot trannies are escorts, thus have no need for CL for sex as they can get it and get paid as well.

Even when a guy says he has "dated" a trannie, it rarely means what most take it to mean. That is an exclusive boy and trannie realtionship. More often than not it means the guy was seeing a trannie, and may even taken her out in public, but rarely that he cut off seeing GGs at the same time.

So before asking if trannies seek out "chasers", you might wish to ask what else is out there for trannies to date?

SS

[tsntx]

but the most beautiful and non-manly trannies are generally not the ones getting the most attention at the parties. I'll go so far to say that total passability is not what chasers are seeking in their girls

i'm ready to get bombed

totally agree

and its hillarious

[Shining Star]

Well it depends.

Have been to enough trannie bars/parties or places where TS girls were there in numbers to see my share of "strange" hook-ups.

For some men, working tackle trumps everything else. Otherwise it's like driving a high performance sports car, only it has automatic transmission.

There is also a growing movement out there of men seeking "non-escort" trannies, for various reasons. So working on the theory that looking "hot" requires quite allot of financial investment, plain looking trannies may be seen as not escorts, and or perhaps not even a full part of the "trannie" scene.

If anyone has ever been to one of those "Night of A Thousand Gowns" (aka, Night of A Thousand Clowns", you will see various and sorted trannies, drag queens and such, many wouldn't pass in a dark alley on a moon-less night, but they have gorgeous husbands in tow.

Again, go figure.

[slinky]

What strikes one is that all if not most of these men consider themselves St8, and always want the hottest "passable" trannie they can get their hands on. Why one does not know since they almost never want to appear in public with a girl, unless it is to get off on some fantasy about having this most beautiful "gir", yet take her home and suck and get plowed.

Go figure.

Oh, I think that's the easiest part to answer: the more passable the girl they are with the easier it is to convince themselves they are straight even if what they want is the biggest cock possible in every possible orifice.

[slinky]

BTW:

Sunny, Flabby, NYCe, JWBL, MEGA..........


ITYS

[slinky]

Have my own theory:

The more beautiful and non-manly looking the trannie is, the more the guy can delude himself that what he is doing sexually is not gay sex.



DAMMIT you did it again.


The ONE girl I feel like chasing on the whole site and she won't talk to me..... booo hooooo...... sniff, sniff, sniff..............

[FISTOFHEAVEN]

IS TS WANT TO BE TREATED NORMALLY TAKEN OUT HAVE FUN WITH A GUY IN PUBLIC WHO DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS WHY WOULD U SEGREGATE THAMSELVES BY MAKING UP THE TERM TRANNY CHASER WOMEN DONT HAVE A TERM AND MEN DONT HAVE A TERM SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM WHY WOULD U MAKE ONE FOR YOURSELF

[Shining Star]

IS TS WANT TO BE TREATED NORMALLY TAKEN OUT HAVE FUN WITH A GUY IN PUBLIC WHO DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS WHY WOULD U SEGREGATE THAMSELVES BY MAKING UP THE TERM TRANNY CHASER WOMEN DONT HAVE A TERM AND MEN DONT HAVE A TERM SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM WHY WOULD U MAKE ONE FOR YOURSELFWho told you that?

Ever hear of "Whore Hound"?

A few more:

Player
Hit and Run Lover
Skirt Chaser
Bitch Shield

And so forth.

In any language there are words for men and women who persue a gender and or sexual relations in ecess of what is considered normal.

[keepingitreal470]

It is a very interesting question....I have dated men in my life that haven't ever dated a ts before and that was a mess! They question everything they do....It basically turns into an "Am I Gay " on H.A.! But in real life. .....I have dated men that know that they like Trannies so i guess that would make them Chasers...And still have had problems....So for me I have decided I never want to date again! LOL! Chasers in my opinion are not people you wouldn't want to be seen with...Many attractive men come to my parties that I consider to be Chasers...I think the proper word for the type of man the girls don't want to be with in Daylight is the "SERIAL KILLER LOOK"...Which we see...And stalk us in stores and follow us home and have no social skills....I think that is what the girls don't like :lol:Very nice post Sunny. I know you're not into some of the bs thats talked about here, but I for one would appreciate your input more often. It lifts the IQ level of the thread. And I'm not always subjected to these moronic replies from the same morons who reply to every post. ANY GIRL THAT THINKS A GUY IS A CHASER JUST CAUSE HE LIKES TGIRLS IS STUPID. Thats not the definition of a chaser. Its like saying since I like women, then I'm a female chaser. Just plain stupid. What makes a guy a chaser is how he goes about pursuing tgirls. If he's being a cock sucking whore that runs to the first girl he sees cause she's packin,(and he doesnt even stop to consider how fuckin crazy she may be, nor does he care) thats a chaser. If his conversation is all about sex sex sex, and how much$. thats a chaser.

[keepingitreal470]

What strikes one is that all if not most of these men consider themselves St8, and always want the hottest "passable" trannie they can get their hands on. Why one does not know since they almost never want to appear in public with a girl, unless it is to get off on some fantasy about having this most beautiful "gir", yet take her home and suck and get plowed.

Go figure.


lmao THAT is the thing that gets me the most

why do these faggots need the "hottest, most passable, most natal female" ts out there .... only to not go ANYWHERE public and just go home to suck her off


LOL, thats a good one. I used to do that excatly. The good news is that after I dated enough TS girls, I finally figured out that hiding them and having sex is not all that fun after a while. There comes a time when you just have to go out with them and have real fun. Although sex is fun, its not the only form of fun.Now your starting to get it. You can have a lot of real fun once maturity sets in. You should feel good about yourself. You've separated yourself from the cockhound population. Atta boy!

[FISTOFHEAVEN]

IS TS WANT TO BE TREATED NORMALLY TAKEN OUT HAVE FUN WITH A GUY IN PUBLIC WHO DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS WHY WOULD U SEGREGATE THAMSELVES BY MAKING UP THE TERM TRANNY CHASER WOMEN DONT HAVE A TERM AND MEN DONT HAVE A TERM SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM WHY WOULD U MAKE ONE FOR YOURSELFWho told you that?

Ever hear of "Whore Hound"?

A few more:

Player
Hit and Run Lover
Skirt Chaser
Bitch Shield

And so forth.

In any language there are words for men and women who persue a gender and or sexual relations in ecess of what is considered normal.

well u forgot besides skirt chasers and i never heard of bitch shield wommen go by them same names like player pimp u must dont see the women get theres to and run so its not just the men have names but non of them names is designated to a certain gender like tranny chaser

[slinky]

There is also a growing movement out there of men seeking "non-escort" trannies, for various reasons. So working on the theory that looking "hot" requires quite allot of financial investment, plain looking trannies may be seen as not escorts, and or perhaps not even a full part of the "trannie" scene.

Yeah, but there's also a "growing movement" of guys seeking out GG's who aren't prostitutes, but will sleep with them for money. Taking your CL example, take a look over the last few years and see what the hottest selling GG ticket is out there : the ever elusive "non-pro". Guys on whore boards talk about this for hours on end: trying to define what a non-pro is, coming up with variations on what non-pros are (i saw a recent 10 page discussion based on a guy trying to make up a new term "x-pro" because non-pro has gotten so overused that everyone knows it no longer has any meaning.

[slinky]

A chaser is nothing more than a horn-dog who instead of making GGs his sole focus, includes or totally seeks trannies. There are lots of men who make a career of sleeping with as many girls as possible, heck it is the basis of the character "Charlie" on "Two and Half Men".

There are all breeds of chasers. Some are even called "chasers" like "chubby chasers". Guys with "Yellow Fever". You name it. but I can tell you that in most cases, for the girls, finding out the guy they are with is a chaser (especially in the Yellow Fever category) is HUGE turn off. And I understand why: you never know if the guy really likes you or you are just some paraphilia regalia.

Personally, I think it's almost impossible for TS girls to find a winner: if a guy likes tranny's and you want to actually have SRS, you're fucked. But these guys want the most feminine passable girls at the same time. And they don't want to be considered gay, so you're going to have to be a "dirty little secret" of some sort.

If a guy doesn't like trannies, then eventually you're going to get hit with one issue or another ("I want to have a family and you can't have kids" being one example).

But I'm not sure I agree that any chaser (be it tranny or anything else) is just a horn-dog who wants to screw as many girls as he can. Many chasers go through many serially monogamous relationships: but the usually don't work out because they started out on the "wrong" basis. They started because of a fetish the guy had, not because of an actual attraction (especially non-physical attraction). Eventually, the fetishism wears off (with this particualar person) and the relationship ends. now, this can be a day, a week a month, a year, or whatever. Hell, about 25 years ago I went to a dentist who had been married 5 times. Each one was named Carol: you don't think there was some "chasing" going on there?

You see it all the time with the Yellow Fever guys because they have convinced themselves of some "Asian mystique" which just isn't ground in reality. So when they get over their initial "I nailed am Asian" euphoria, reality slowly starts to set in and they start finding faults with their partner. Now, these "faults" were there from the beginning, but blinded by Yellow Fever the guy dreamed the girl up into being something she never was, and it was only in his head.

I see this all the time with Tranny Chasers. You see the thought process supported all the time on this forum and even in this thread "Tranny's are better than GG's because..............". Well, guess what? That's exactly what gets any tpye of chaser in trouble: assigning characteristics to people not based on who they really are, but because of some stereotype (stereotypes don't always have to be negatives).

Lets look at one in Shining Star's post:

Tranny's have higher sex drives than GG's. Well, it's possible this is true on average, but it certainly isn't true of each tranny and each GG. I know many GG's who have monster sex drives (hey, I make no bones about having serrially dated Bipolar girls: they will fuck you blind when they get on a good manic. My bigggest ever "pne who got away" is a famous Bipolar girl). But in general, it's not that women don't have as high sex drives as men, they just have different priorities: once you find one who wants to fuck you, she probably will fuck you just as much and just as hard as any tranny will (and in reality, when it comes to fucking GG's just plain have the physical ability to out fuck guys: they don't have to get it up, can have multiple orgasms, etc. What's a gang bang? How many are 10 girls fucking 1 guy and how many are the other way around?).

Or the concept that tranny's give better head than GG's:I've had plenty of really good blowjobs from GG's and plenty of really mediocre one's from TS.

Or that genital sex is tighter with a tranny. Not if you're fucking your GG in the ass it's not: I defy anyone to show me evience that any guy can even tell the difference between anal sex with a TS and anal sex with a GG.


But let's get down to something which I think is important which I don't think has been covered enough:real chasers chase. What I mean by that is that whichever version of chaser they are, they forego others except for the group which they are chasing. They fetishize the group which they are chasing. they don't see those who they are chasing as people, but as objects with some magical properties. I mean, how many guys start off 80% of their conversations with a TS with "How big is your cock?" as the opening line?

Hell, I'll bet if you took all my Boot Worship clients over the last 30 years, half of them wouldn't be able to pick my face out of a line-up. I was just a "thing" wearing the right boots and trampling them and telling them what disgusting little worms they were (or whatever else it was that got them off). There's a "friend" of mine I see now who never asks how my week has been or whatever: all he wants to know is what the latest pair of boots I got is (and since I have a thing for boots, he knows I'm always getting some new endangered species attached to my feet. Well, that's my illness: aside from being a sex addict my other unfillable abyss is skins. I think I bought 3 leather jackets and 3 exotic boots this month).

But it's not just the boot guys. It's thousands of guys with thousands of fetishes. And no one ever "satisfies" a fetish. It's an itch which just needs to get scratched over and over again. So IF tranny chasers are really tranny fetishists (and I think they are), the odds of any particular tranny "satisfying" and particular chaser is fairly limited.

I should, however, note that I don't think that every guy who ever sees a TS is a chaser. I certainly don't consider myself one. The vast majority of sex I have is with GG's (and lately it's been going more and more in that direction. Hell, I finally found a nice TS girl recently who I think was actually attracted to me...... but we're both tops so when her friend pushes her on me she says "I ain't no bottom girl". I guess I should confess that there are a fair amount of girls who I meet at the events who I do find very attractive, and it's their lack of mutual attraction to me which is what's stopping anything from happening). There are plenty of "gay" men who pick up TS (take a look at the interactions between the hot bartenders and/or gogo boys at an awful lot of predominantly gay clubs).

[sugdaddie69]

Kinda like the paparazzi.

[slinky]

And stalk us in stores and follow us home and have no social skills....I think that is what the girls don't like :lol:

I think I said this before in some other thread, but I'm always shocked at how rude some of the guys are at the events: some girl will be walking by and they will just reach out and grab her arm (hard), often spinning her around and almost ripping her arm off. And then they expect her to be pleasant. These guys are the caricatures of cavemen; just hit her over the head with your club and drag her back to your cave by her hair.

[slinky]

So it looks like about 50/50, but I think some who voted "yes" didn't understand the question (i.e. they were talking about girls looking for tricks). So I'm still left with my original thought which is that TS girls are not particularly looking to find chasers for other than commercial sex opportunities.

[Azanti]

I think each person is unique and consequently so will they be on this issue.

[tsntx]

I think each person is unique and consequently so will they be on this issue.


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you just answered a question w/ direct point that is so logical it will create a blackhole and were all gonna die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[slinky]

I think each person is unique and consequently so will they be on this issue.

You know, in any universe, when there are two discrete non-intersecting subsets, there can be great variations within each subset. But the variations don't make the subsets intersect, and they don't vitiate their being discrete subsets.

Yeah, that's a fancy way of saying "everyone is unique" is a bullshit cop out to answering a yes or no question with either a yes or a no.

[NYBURBS]

I think each person is unique and consequently so will they be on this issue.

You know, in any universe, when there are two discrete non-intersecting subsets, there can be great variations within each subset. But the variations don't make the subsets intersect, and they don't vitiate their being discrete subsets.

Yeah, that's a fancy way of saying "everyone is unique" is a bullshit cop out to answering a yes or no question with either a yes or a no.

But it's not bullshit imo, in fact I think he hit the nail on the head. Everyone has something they are looking for, something that complements them as a person. Of course you tend to see trends but that still is far from some universal status-quo.

Let's perhaps simplify this issue by looking at it from a different perspective, and one most of us are familiar with lol: If you were to talk with your buddies about what kind of woman they want or find attractive you would get this wide array of answers. Some men are actually into gold diggers because they tend to be hot and the guy has the means to support them and in return get a hot looking woman by his side. Other guys want no part of that and like only shy demur types, while others want aggressive independent types. The variations are endless and I for one gave up long ago trying to figure out or worry about what other people like or want. I worry about what works well for me as a person and try to find someone that will fit into that. I think at the end of the day that is what most people are doing.

[slinky]

If you were to talk with your buddies about what kind of woman they want or find attractive you would get this wide array of answers. Some men are actually into gold diggers because they tend to be hot and the guy has the means to support them and in return get a hot looking woman by his side. Other guys want no part of that and like only shy demur types, while others want aggressive independent types. The variations are endless and I for one gave up long ago trying to figure out or worry about what other people like or want. I worry about what works well for me as a person and try to find someone that will fit into that. I think at the end of the day that is what most people are doing.

Except you are missing a crucial logical point: the question isn't a generic question, which would be "what type of guys do TS girls want?" which wouldn't be a yes or no answer. The equivalent is right in your post: "Some men are actually into gold diggers because they tend to be hot and the guy has the means to support them and in return get a hot looking woman by his side. Other guys want no part of that". There is your yes and no; the question "if they don't like Gold Diggers then what type of girl do they like?" isn't being asked. So in that case, you've still boiled it down to a yes or no.

People tend to look at things with 10 answers and assign the probability of each answer as 10% just because that's an even division. But it's not reality. Populations have very uneven distributions. In the most common of what people think of when they hear the word "population" in people, so let's go with that example: I could ask on survey "Race: white or not white?". Now, people would get all offended and say "there's all sorts of races not just black and white. there are Native Americans, there are Eskimos, there are Pacific Islanders, there are........." and you know what? IF what you were trying to find out was the distribution of every ethnic/racial group was, then you're right, the "are you white or not white" question wouldn't get you there. but if what you're trying to find out is something of specificity, you don't need to know what the specificity of all the negative answers are. let's get away from "White/Caucasian" for a second: let's say what you wanted to find out was the percentage of Eskimos living in NYC was. You could hand out a survey with a question: "Ethnicity" and list every single one and have a list 50 long. then take the percentage who answered "Eskimo" and you'd have your answer. But you know what? If you asked the same question ans only had "Eskimo" and "Not Eskimo" as the answers, you'd end up with the EXACT same answer.

So, my point is, yes, TS girls like all different types of guys and everyone has a different answer, blah, blah, blah. But I really don't give a shit about that. What I'm asking of the guys is who thinks that some reasonable percentage of the TS population are out there chasing Tranny Chasers when it's not for a commercial transaction[i]".

And I know exactly why guys don't want to answer: because in general they know the answer is "no", but since this is in general a population of Tranny Chasers who [i]wishes the answer were "yes", it makes it very difficult to step back and answer the question.

Of much more interest (but unfortunately not much discussion) was Shining Star's thesis that "for the most part, a trannie may not have a choice but "chasers" when it comes to the men she sees. " Even though that's a different issue, at least it's a real/interesting one.

[nevada64]

I think each person is unique and consequently so will they be on this issue.


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mean b*tch

[NYBURBS]

Except you are missing a crucial logical point: the question isn't a generic question, which would be "what type of guys do TS girls want?" which wouldn't be a yes or no answer. The equivalent is right in your post: "Some men are actually into gold diggers because they tend to be hot and the guy has the means to support them and in return get a hot looking woman by his side. Other guys want no part of that". There is your yes and no; the question "if they don't like Gold Diggers then what type of girl do they like?" isn't being asked. So in that case, you've still boiled it down to a yes or no.

People tend to look at things with 10 answers and assign the probability of each answer as 10% just because that's an even division. But it's not reality. Populations have very uneven distributions. In the most common of what people think of when they hear the word "population" in people, so let's go with that example: I could ask on survey "Race: white or not white?". Now, people would get all offended and say "there's all sorts of races not just black and white. there are Native Americans, there are Eskimos, there are Pacific Islanders, there are........." and you know what? IF what you were trying to find out was the distribution of every ethnic/racial group was, then you're right, the "are you white or not white" question wouldn't get you there. but if what you're trying to find out is something of specificity, you don't need to know what the specificity of all the negative answers are. let's get away from "White/Caucasian" for a second: let's say what you wanted to find out was the percentage of Eskimos living in NYC was. You could hand out a survey with a question: "Ethnicity" and list every single one and have a list 50 long. then take the percentage who answered "Eskimo" and you'd have your answer. But you know what? If you asked the same question ans only had "Eskimo" and "Not Eskimo" as the answers, you'd end up with the EXACT same answer.

So, my point is, yes, TS girls like all different types of guys and everyone has a different answer, blah, blah, blah. But I really don't give a shit about that. What I'm asking of the guys is who thinks that some reasonable percentage of the TS population are out there chasing Tranny Chasers when it's not for a commercial transaction[i]".

And I know exactly why guys don't want to answer: because in general they know the answer is "no", but since this is in general a population of Tranny Chasers who [i]wishes the answer were "yes", it makes it very difficult to step back and answer the question.

Of much more interest (but unfortunately not much discussion) was Shining Star's thesis that "for the most part, a trannie may not have a choice but "chasers" when it comes to the men she sees. " Even though that's a different issue, at least it's a real/interesting one.

I see your point and it's not a bad one, especially as it relates to the fact that you are simply trying to get a yes or no on your question. Yet while I don't have a background in polling or statistics, it seems to me that your question is still looking to overly simplify a more complicated issue. Poll questions are all about the context in which you ask them and the manner in which you limit them in their choices. Perhaps do one with the third option of "depends" and see what happens to the results lol.

As for most guys not wanting to hear a no answer, maybe you're right but I can only speak for myself which is: I don't give a fuck either way. I can completely understand some girls not wanting to be associated with some of the guys I see posting on here as I'm pretty sure they have people buried in their basements. Yet there's plenty of decent guys on here also that most of these girls would be lucky to get into a relationship with, so again it's more complicated than a simple yes or no question will allow for.

[tsntx]

I think each person is unique and consequently so will they be on this issue.


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mean b*tch

stop following me around faggot


yes slinky it is a VERY generic question

there are many different types of chasers
some chasers are attractive
some chasers are just lookig for sex
some chasers are just looking for a conquest
some chasers are just looking to say theyve been w/ ____ and ____

some chasers are actually just interested in being w/ transwomen beit for one night or on an actual dating relationship but bc they are limited to 20 girls per city it doesnt take long for him to get labled a chaser.... doesnt mean he fits the definition of chaser you are looking for tho

[Danielle Foxx]

Look up the definition of " Tranny Chaser" and you have your answer. The term was created by transsexuals for a reason.

I like a normal guy who does not see me in any other way but a female. I am not sure I would date a man who is into cock because I don't have one and that craving never goes away. Seems as if tranny chasers bounce too much from girl to girl.

Men have a very difficult time with commitment to begin with, the tranny chasers are worst.

[voy4her]

I figure they want a guy who thinks theyre a GG, and when it gets to the crying game moment, goes through a whole "im not gay thing i could never be with a penised individual" but then relents and they live happily ever after. Maybe it will happen too.
I also think guys who appreciate Tgirls are also overly judged in a negative way, but i think this ties into the fact that many tgirls escort for $$$ and so connect them with johns. ITs a bit of a catch 22, because no one wants to date anyone who serial dates escorts, and a lot of guys who do see Tgirl escorts do it because they really want to be with a t-girl and dont know/arent able to find one IRL and just create a natural friendship.
Im not sure that there are many cinderella endings in these situations, but that doesnt mean you cant hold out hope.
Im fortunate enough to know 2 m2f girls who have gone all the way through SRS, have never worked in porn or escorting, and are 2 of the bravest and coolest individuals i know.And they are both happy and dating "normal" guys.

[voy4her]

IS TS WANT TO BE TREATED NORMALLY TAKEN OUT HAVE FUN WITH A GUY IN PUBLIC WHO DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS WHY WOULD U SEGREGATE THAMSELVES BY MAKING UP THE TERM TRANNY CHASER WOMEN DONT HAVE A TERM AND MEN DONT HAVE A TERM SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM WHY WOULD U MAKE ONE FOR YOURSELFWho told you that?

Ever hear of "Whore Hound"?

A few more:

Player
Hit and Run Lover
Skirt Chaser
Bitch Shield

And so forth.

In any language there are words for men and women who persue a gender and or sexual relations in ecess of what is considered normal.
lol never heard of a bitch shield or a whore hound. The latter is pretty self explanatory but what exactly is a bitch shield?

[mishadark]

Depends
A chaser can become a partner :wink:

[slinky]

I see your point and it's not a bad one, especially as it relates to the fact that you are simply trying to get a yes or no on your question. Yet while I don't have a background in polling or statistics, it seems to me that your question is still looking to overly simplify a more complicated issue. Poll questions are all about the context in which you ask them and the manner in which you limit them in their choices. Perhaps do one with the third option of "depends" and see what happens to the results lol.

As for most guys not wanting to hear a no answer, maybe you're right but I can only speak for myself which is: I don't give a fuck either way. I can completely understand some girls not wanting to be associated with some of the guys I see posting on here as I'm pretty sure they have people buried in their basements. Yet there's plenty of decent guys on here also that most of these girls would be lucky to get into a relationship with, so again it's more complicated than a simple yes or no question will allow for.

Ah... a very fair balanced point and reason enough for me to reveal my "ulterior motive" behind this thread:

In another thread the other day, as well as a multitude of prior threads, guys have complained that the events thrown by the promoters (the 3 most popular, anyway) are full of working girls or girls there who are gold digging, etc. They want an event where they could go and it would just be like a "regular clubs" with GG's where they could sit and have a "normal conversation" and hook up in a "not pay for play" situation.

Well, that assumes that there are TS girls who would show up at such an event. In turn, that assumes that there are a significant amount of TS girls who would want to be at such an event. If we believe my assumption that the VAST majority of guys attending these events (and/or not attending the events because they are waiting for one's with non-working girls), that means that there need to be a significant amount of girls who are non-working girls who are seeking out chasers. So... that leads to the question: do such girls exist in any real quantity? Which leads to the question which started this thread.

I think it's obvious by now my belief is that the answer is "no". As such, it's not that the events are being "stocked" by the promoters with working girls in some nefarious plot against unsuspecting chasers to "get their money", but rather that if a promoter tried to throw an event with non-working girls and tranny chasers, the non-working girls wouldn't show up, because they wouldn't want to be in a place full of chasers.

Basically, I think it's the equivalent of wanting an event where there were all these GG porn stars where their fans could go and meet them and hook up with them, but that the GG porn stars wouldn't be there in any commercial capacity, they would just be showing up at this "porn stars and their fans" events because they really wanted to meet their fans and fuck them for free.

[DL_NL]

Men have a very difficult time with commitment to begin with, the tranny chasers are worst.
And in your opinion, the guys on this board are by definition tranny chasers?

[NYBURBS]

Ah... a very fair balanced point and reason enough for me to reveal my "ulterior motive" behind this thread:

In another thread the other day, as well as a multitude of prior threads, guys have complained that the events thrown by the promoters (the 3 most popular, anyway) are full of working girls or girls there who are gold digging, etc. They want an event where they could go and it would just be like a "regular clubs" with GG's where they could sit and have a "normal conversation" and hook up in a "not pay for play" situation.

Well, that assumes that there are TS girls who would show up at such an event. In turn, that assumes that there are a significant amount of TS girls who would want to be at such an event. If we believe my assumption that the VAST majority of guys attending these events (and/or not attending the events because they are waiting for one's with non-working girls), that means that there need to be a significant amount of girls who are non-working girls who are seeking out chasers. So... that leads to the question: do such girls exist in any real quantity? Which leads to the question which started this thread.

I think it's obvious by now my belief is that the answer is "no". As such, it's not that the events are being "stocked" by the promoters with working girls in some nefarious plot against unsuspecting chasers to "get their money", but rather that if a promoter tried to throw an event with non-working girls and tranny chasers, the non-working girls wouldn't show up, because they wouldn't want to be in a place full of chasers.

Basically, I think it's the equivalent of wanting an event where there were all these GG porn stars where their fans could go and meet them and hook up with them, but that the GG porn stars wouldn't be there in any commercial capacity, they would just be showing up at this "porn stars and their fans" events because they really wanted to meet their fans and fuck them for free.

Yea well wanting a party with non-working girls that are of the caliber that you see in the photos is unrealistic. There are bars where some go I suppose, but they tend to be early in transition or cd/tv (nothing wrong with that, but not what some are looking for). I know some girls like to go to "straight" clubs in Manhattan and I guess if a guy was that interested in meeting a non-working girl that would be the place for a chance at it.

As you pointed out, you wouldn't see GG porn stars attending parties just to meet and fuck for free their fans. Now that you explained your original intention the question makes more sense.

[Shining Star]

In the past, there were bars and clubs where non-working trannies would go, or at least working trannies would go off duty. True some of these places were gay, but some were pretty mixed (Limelight, Palladium, Roxy, Susanne Bartsch parties, Life), indeed often a guy either alone, or with friends, or even with a GG gf would go to such places with the intention of meeting a trans.

Often they would be out with a GG, spot a trans, find way to get the digits, then take the GG home and come back for the trans or make arrangements to meet up later. Heck, even some of the go-go boys and bouncers were into the girls.

However as the trannie scene began to shift more towards escorting and sex work, many of the non-working trans simply didn't wish to associate with that element, and stopped going to said places. Gay clubs and mixed parties began to bar trannies simply because girls couldn't behave themselves. It's one thing to try and hit on a guy in a club, quite another to try and make a "date".

Since then the "normal" TS and TV crowd has gravitated to "Silver Swan" types of parties, while the other girls to the TS "bars/parties".

Just as one is not likely to find una propia mujer, at a bar or event mainly for public women, why should a "nice" trannie want to hang out a party where the main focus is hiring of sex?

The final versions of Edelweiss before it was shut down are a perfect example. One went with some friends (we were out clubbing anyway), and couldn't wait to get out of the place. It was seedy and quite honestly gross. Looked sort of like something one would see in the sex districts of Asian cities. Girls walking around half dressed, sex acts (or close to it) going on in every corner, bathroom and so forth, and men who assumed because one was there you must be on the game as well. Oh, don't forget the pick-pocketing, assults, and other acts of violence.

Sorry, my idea of a night out does not include the above. So like many, tend to avoid such places.

New York City, used to a have several trannie bars, or at least weekly parties:

Speed Limit 55
GG Barnum's
Grapevine
Edelweiss
Now Bar

Of the lot, Barnum's and Grapevine were known "hooker" bars, but the others were where one could go and simply have a good time. If you met guy, fine, if not you could just kick back with friends and have a nice night out.

Ask any of the promoters of current trannie parties just how hard it is to pull those things off. First many bars/clubs want nothing to do with TS parties (see reasons above), next they have to balance giving the people what they want (chasers and other men who want to meet trannies), versus the expectations of the girls themselves.

Plainly put many men attend parties to scope goods, and find themselves something, PERIOD. Many girls attend for the same reasons. If the place is too locked down, and or not enough of one or the other attends, the other doing the seeking wont' come.

As with other asepcts of social interaction, the Internet has changed everything. Gay bars, long known as places for hook-ups are closing as are bath houses, and "book stores" as gay men move or moved to the Web to get their freak on. The same is happening with trannies.

At first the Interent proved a boon for trannies "working" as sites like Eros.com and Exotics.com meant men didn't have to risk being seen buying mags or newspapers for trannie adverts, now they could "order in" with a click of a finger. But now with CL, you have more and more guys taking matters into their own hands, and going after trannies directly.


If someone is truly looking to hook-up with a TS and have sex, then probably and escort is a better way to go than CL. But considering how few TS escorts live up to the vast sums demanded as tribute, and the man is not always assured of seeing what was pictured (and yet they still pay, go figure), CL can at least be said to have as equal odds then escort sites, and cost much less to nothing.

[slinky]

I fell like I'm Tyler Durden and no one will tell me.

[jcinva]

I finally got it!

Y'all are "girls" with penises who only want to date men who only date girls without penises.

How could I have missed it?

Help me out here, please: and this isn't a set up for total relationship failure, disappointment, and bitterness how, exactly?

[masterplanner]

I personally know a few girls, and I would say YES! As much as they would hate to admit, and will DENY DENY DENY... YES! They might get fucked by guys who are "not chasers". But those guys dont stick around, to listen to their problems, make them feel better, comfort them, befriend them, or put up with all their BS insanity! They feel some sort of intimacy (comfortablility) with "chasers". Ive seen it time and time again.

[transmaven]

Y'all are "girls" with penises who only want to date men who only date girls without penises.


Of course: same old same old.

Like so many gay guys only want straight guys. That's the dream.

Human nature to seek and bask in futility.

[Transhunter]

I feel as man interested in transexuals I can not win.

I am not saying that this is the case with all TS girls but it seems you want what you can't feasably have.

most guys who are interested in TS Girls are bi sexual at least wether they admit it or not, therefore the cock will be a focus for them.

in addition to this their main source of information about transgender people will be from explicit websites with a highly sexualised context. therefore giving the impression, to the kind of guys that maybe attracted to here, that it was all about no strings attached sex.

I am sure I will get my head ripped off for this but if you meet a guy that is interested in GGs, you want to date him and be treated as female then it is all going to a little bit tits up when he sees your sexual organs.

I can understand why you may want to avoid guys who are trannny obsessives but there most be guys that like transexuals who want to get know you as people that are not total wierdos