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jaycanuck
12-02-2008, 05:25 AM
Interesting stuff going on with the coalition and the possible over-turning of the conservative government. I have a couple of concerns...but for the most part I welcome it ( Dion as PM for one is a problem )

Thoughts?

tao1kiku
12-02-2008, 05:33 AM
It may be legal, but I don't like it.

jaycanuck
12-02-2008, 05:39 AM
It may be legal, but I don't like it.

I do agree. It is a nuisance. They're all idiots. For Harper to complain about this though is a joke...he tried to do something similar in 2004. I say screw them all. We need a new political party to replace them all. Maybe we can vote for Obama as PM

tao1kiku
12-02-2008, 05:49 AM
Just because he shot himself in the foot doesn't mean it's time for a coup - and Dion as PM? Even his own party doesn't want him and he's going to be running the country? Hmm, maybe I should be looking to move the h*** out of here.

jaycanuck
12-02-2008, 05:56 AM
I agree...Dion is a very bad choice. My choices went like this in the last election, Layton, Harper, May, Dion, Duceppe....not because I'd like Harper to be in power...but because the others are nut bars. This isn't so much a coalition but an attempt for the Liberal party to rebuild itself and act in it's own interest. If they were serious about showing good faith, they probably should have put Layton in control.

As for the Bloc...well...I don't agree with a separatist party being in parliament in the first place.

envivision
12-02-2008, 06:03 AM
Q:

If the US did not elect Obama and the democrats, would you be having this conversation?

A: probably not


There is a saying down here: When the US gets a cold, Canada gets Pneumonia.

Case in point: US goes into recession, Canada follows soon and crashes big time.

US changes administration from conservative to liberal, Canada wants to do the same-and would crash big time. May I add UNETHICALLY (w/o people voting). Expect the whole Quebec seperation thingy to be back. After all, you don't need elections to overthrow democratically elected governments in Canada.

I invite Canada to officially declare its Independance from the USA. Not everything that Uncle Sam does Canada should do, you know.

tao1kiku
12-02-2008, 06:14 AM
And just why is the Bloc a federal party when I here in Ontraio cannot vote for or against them?

Quebecers voted to stay within Canada (by a narrow margin albeit), so shut up and get on with life. But if the Quebecers do want to leave, go ahead. Ohh, and no more federal money, create your own, no more gov't contracts (half the Cdn military is run from Quebec !!!)

But the rant is about the overall political climate, being the Conservatives were a duly elected minority gov't. If Canadians want something diff, we'll go back to the polls in a few years.

Ohhh, ahhh, envivision, we are complete seperate from the USA. Our own distinct culture, our govenerment is definitely quite different, we have a governor General who is a representative of the Queen, our own currency! The only reason we react to the US economy is becuase the US is our largest trading partner.

And how you are treated by peoples in other nations when you mention you are Canadian is quite nice. No disrespect to Americans, I love em.

jaycanuck
12-02-2008, 06:18 AM
Q:

If the US did not elect Obama and the democrats, would you be having this conversation?

A: probably not


There is a saying down here: When the US gets a cold, Canada gets Pneumonia.

Case in point: US goes into recession, Canada follows soon and crashes big time.

US changes administration from conservative to liberal, Canada wants to do the same-and would crash big time. May I add UNETHICALLY (w/o people voting). Expect the whole Quebec seperation thingy to be back. After all, you don't need elections to overthrow democratically elected governments in Canada.

I invite Canada to officially declare its Independance from the USA. Not everything that Uncle Sam does Canada should do, you know.

I'd check your facts. Conservative government was originally elected because of a scandal about 6 years after your conservative government. The initial spark for this situation was not the economic crisis...it was PM Harper cutting funding for the opposition parties. You know..not everything the US does is mirrored...that just shows your ignorance in global events.

And we can't overthrow a government at a snap of a finger if there is a majority government (which there isn't right now). As in any democratic situation there are rules which govern the state...much like your senate i'm sure.

Please get off your high horse and think before you generalize the world.

bluepeter
12-09-2008, 11:25 PM
Q:

If the US did not elect Obama and the democrats, would you be having this conversation?

A: probably not


There is a saying down here: When the US gets a cold, Canada gets Pneumonia.

Case in point: US goes into recession, Canada follows soon and crashes big time.

US changes administration from conservative to liberal, Canada wants to do the same-and would crash big time. May I add UNETHICALLY (w/o people voting). Expect the whole Quebec seperation thingy to be back. After all, you don't need elections to overthrow democratically elected governments in Canada.

I invite Canada to officially declare its Independance from the USA. Not everything that Uncle Sam does Canada should do, you know.

Uh.....what?

BeardedOne
12-10-2008, 12:21 AM
I'm certainly not speaking with any genuine intelligence on this matter, but from a purely knee-jerk emotional reaction...

Minutemouse9
12-10-2008, 12:42 AM
FYI

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=212887&title=provinces-in-peril-indecision

followed by

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=212888&title=provinces-in-peril

meditation
12-10-2008, 02:29 AM
I like Dion, hes a nice guy. Too bad, nice guy dont win in politics.

bassman2546
12-10-2008, 02:48 PM
With the recent Liberals bowing out (Dion and Rae), that should raise enough eyebrows from Canadians to make them wonder about this whole situation. As far as I'm concerned an election determined that the Conservatives should be in power and rather than be a bunch of whiny little babies, the other parties should let them run the country for the time being.

I don't like what the parties have done and, from an economy standpoint, they picked a shitty time to do it from this Canadian citizen's standpoint. If they gave a shit about the Canadian people they would have refrained from doing this, especially coming off the worst Liberal defeat in decades. To me, that doesn't raise the confidence level from the people of Canada at all for this party.

And Jack Layton can take a flying fucking leap. I wouldn't trust that back-stabbing bastard if my life depended on it. The NDP will never get into power so his role in life is to criticize and slam the other parties. Now he wants to be friends with the Liberals? For how long? Until they get back into power and then he can bark at the country, yet again, telling the people what a shitty job they are doing. I'm amazed that guy can even look at himself in the mirror.

tao1kiku
12-13-2008, 10:31 PM
And Jack L tips like crap (he goes to a bar I work at!)