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msbhaven
12-02-2008, 05:09 AM
So I found out today that I'm being layed off in 6 weeks. (Merry Fucking Christmas right?) Officially the reason being given is that another location is closing and people from that location with more seniority are being transferred in. I say officially because my last performance review was great, and I have never once received a written reprimand......but there has been friction at work recently. One girl said I was mean to her (total BS since she says everyone is mean to her), and my boss got P O ed when I called her out for laying out of work for the same reason that I didn't want to work overtime (this after she slammed me for giving a poor excuse for not working OT). So ultimately I feel very screwed right now.

I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do. The economy sucks, everywhere you look people are going out of business or closing locations, and wintertime is the absolute worst time to try and find a new job. I could almost cry in frustration right now.

I want to thank those of you who I talked to earlier today and who have left me nice PMs, Emails, or notes on my pic threads. They do help me feel a little better about life, and at least I was able to forget about this Fucked up situation for a few hours.

Hugs to everyone,
Ashlee

Desmon
12-02-2008, 05:40 AM
I'm truly sorry hearing about this Ashlee. It seems that a lot of people are going through this same thing right now. I think it's a collective panic among corporate members to do this and this time of year just happens to make best business sense to take these actions. It has nothing to do about what time of year it is (holidays).

I wouldn't worry about the other girl &your boss though. If they think they're immune from this kind of thing, they've just got to wait and they'll experience it as well. The best thing to do in the meantime however (as hard as it may be) is to remain being positive and have confidence in your abilities. Those same qualities that got you that job will land you another one; no matter how bad the economy is. These situations are only temporary. Tough times don't last for long but tough people do!

xoxo

rico87
12-02-2008, 05:59 AM
JP Morgan just anounced 9300 layoffs today from those that worked at Wash Mutual. It sux alot of families are gonna lose their home and having kids to support is a double fuck.

Hang in there Ashlee you are not alone.

dc_guy_75
12-02-2008, 06:18 AM
Perhaps you could look at it as a chance to reinvent yourself.

There's opportunity everywhere.

envivision
12-02-2008, 06:21 AM
Perhaps you could look at it as a chance to reinvent yourself.

There's opportunity everywhere.

prostitution?

dc_guy_75
12-02-2008, 06:32 AM
God no... WTF?

Its about pursuing a passion, whatever it is...

a994
12-02-2008, 07:31 AM
I'm sorry that that is happening to you, msbhaven. I've been laid off myself the last few months.

Good fortune to you.

bartholomeus
12-02-2008, 07:56 AM
That sucks even though i don't know you i sympathize. I have family members in the same boat, i too worry where this will end. It's the holidays and things just seem to keep getting more f'ed up for the economy as a whole never mind the extra slowdown in january is going to be harder. I think more people will find themselves in this position, but like some said we'll have to make do with anything we can. Good luck to you.

thx1138
12-02-2008, 09:10 AM
Did you vote for bush in 2000 and/or 2004?

skaterboisandiego
12-02-2008, 09:20 AM
What do you do for work?

CORVETTEDUDE
12-02-2008, 09:58 AM
I feel bad for you but, have to add this comment. It addresses, not only your situation, but anyone that may be approaching a similar the same possibilities.

Unless you ARE the Top Dog in your environment, this applies to you....

Where, in the past, you could express you opinions more freely, turn down offers for OT or extra resposibility, that luxury is now, and for any forseeable future....GONE. It is NOT about you anymore, and never really was)unlike my ex-wife thinks)! It is now all about your VALUE to your employer...why your employer should keep you on the payroll, as opposed to someone else, senior, junior or otherwise. This means;

Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

The bottom line is, you are very lucky to have a job. To give yourself the best opportunity of keeping it, you need to make yourself vital and un-replaceable. You need to be worth your weight in Gold without "asking" for a pay raise. With all this "downsizing" going on, it's not up to your employer to keep you in a job, it's entirely up to you to ensure you're doing everything possible to keep it. In this environment, "loyalty" is a concept, not a reality.

Ask yourself this question....If you were your employer, WHY should you be kept on the payroll, what is your value to the company?

Best of luck with your situation!

Fueled By Ramen
12-02-2008, 12:33 PM
msbhaven,

I feel for you. I, too, have been laid off. I figured myself as a great worker and my sups constantly complemented on my work and work ethic, promised me travel to India to train others there, and thought I had a good future at that job. Unfortunately, despite the great reviews and all the extra work I did to make myself appear valuable, they still had to cut down payroll and I was thus let go. It hurt at first, but I always look at these things as signs that I can find something better elsewhere, that I'm meant for something greater. And actually, it worked to my favor not being there because I didn't have to go to India...and considering what happened there last week, I think getting laid off may have saved me from something awful.

I like to think of it as being on sabbatical, taking a well deserved break from all the work I put in. Unemployment checks are only a fraction of what I would normallly get, but at least it's something. The worst part is the holidays, but as long as people know you're unemployed, they'll understand.

The best thing is to remain positive and strong; don't ever dwell on what went wrong or why they let you go. During these times, even the most experience people are losing their jobs. I'm sure you'll find something soon. Hang in there!!

menacingmethods86
12-02-2008, 02:55 PM
I guess it's time to turn tricks. If midgets and BBW's can do it and make bank, you can too!

msbhaven
12-02-2008, 04:44 PM
Desmon

Thank you for the kind words and support. You are always so good to me here. I really appreciate it.

rico87

I know that things are tough all over as they say, but misery doesn't feel better with company. Thanks for the support.

dc_guy_75

Actually I have been working on making myself believe that God (or fate or Karma if you aren't a believer) wants me to go on to bigger and better things. And there is nothing wrong with being a working girl IMO. In fact some of them are my biggest heros.

envivision

maybe......if I could make a decent living at it

a994

You have my sympathy. But please don't say a few months, it's too depressing to think about in those terms. Thanks for the support.

bartholomeus

Thanks for your support. It means a lot to me to get so many kind notes from guys like you.

thx1138

I absolutely refuse to turn this in to a political debate.

skaterboisandiego

My last job has been in warehouse/shipping and receiving. Previously I did sales work.

CORVETTEDUDE

You are absolutely right. I feel like I got shit on, but there are things I could have done differently I know. I have trouble being a kiss ass. I have trouble be a yes girl, and I have trouble keeping my big mouth shut when I see hypocrisy. I can't believe how fast things went bad. Two months ago I was inline for a promotion, had a great performance review, and was told after coming back from vacation that I was too valuable to leave for another one in the future...and now this. God I just feel so fucking bitter right now.

Fueled By Ramen

Thanks for the kind words. I always believe that God has a plan, I just wish he would let me see it so I don't stress about what I am supposed to do.

menacingmethods86

Believe me I have thought about it. I feel like if I'm going to get fucked in life I might as well earn good money for it. Do you boys really think I could make a decent living at it? I would like to be a porn starlet too if I could figure out where to start.

melissacarter
12-02-2008, 05:07 PM
Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

This is exactly why they can keep their job and give it to the wage slave. At what point does this complete submission compensate fairly into dollars? How much exactly are your balls worth?

This is why I finally got a whiff of reality- being an escort is better than this ass-kissing, pandering, whimpering castration. Who should live like this? Cowering in fear every weekend wondering if your name is still on payroll Friday? There is no such thing as company loyalty. There is no such thing as hard work equals job security. There is no fairness, and anyone that thinks there is better have a deep savings account. Not to mention a retirement plan that doesn't lose half it's value due to stock plummet.

Sorry, I can't pretend I really care about the corporation, that I don't resent that fuckhead boss for his condescending attitude, that I have to check my balls at the door. Sorry, I think theres more self respect in getting fucked on my couch than being a wage slave.

bartholomeus
12-02-2008, 07:34 PM
Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

This is exactly why they can keep their job and give it to the wage slave. At what point does this complete submission compensate fairly into dollars? How much exactly are your balls worth?

This is why I finally got a whiff of reality- being an escort is better than this ass-kissing, pandering, whimpering castration. Who should live like this? Cowering in fear every weekend wondering if your name is still on payroll Friday? There is no such thing as company loyalty. There is no such thing as hard work equals job security. There is no fairness, and anyone that thinks there is better have a deep savings account. Not to mention a retirement plan that doesn't lose half it's value due to stock plummet.

Sorry, I can't pretend I really care about the corporation, that I don't resent that fuckhead boss for his condescending attitude, that I have to check my balls at the door. Sorry, I think theres more self respect in getting fucked on my couch than being a wage slave.

I like the way you think. We are slaves to the check and live just to work. Atleast you can escort, what are us guys to do? lol :x

Solitary Brother
12-02-2008, 07:50 PM
I feel bad for you but, have to add this comment. It addresses, not only your situation, but anyone that may be approaching a similar the same possibilities.

Unless you ARE the Top Dog in your environment, this applies to you....

Where, in the past, you could express you opinions more freely, turn down offers for OT or extra resposibility, that luxury is now, and for any forseeable future....GONE. It is NOT about you anymore, and never really was)unlike my ex-wife thinks)! It is now all about your VALUE to your employer...why your employer should keep you on the payroll, as opposed to someone else, senior, junior or otherwise. This means;

Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

The bottom line is, you are very lucky to have a job. To give yourself the best opportunity of keeping it, you need to make yourself vital and un-replaceable. You need to be worth your weight in Gold without "asking" for a pay raise. With all this "downsizing" going on, it's not up to your employer to keep you in a job, it's entirely up to you to ensure you're doing everything possible to keep it. In this environment, "loyalty" is a concept, not a reality.

Ask yourself this question....If you were your employer, WHY should you be kept on the payroll, what is your value to the company?

Best of luck with your situation!

I have to disagree with you on SOME of what you said not all.
Nowadays they will lay you off no matter what....its all about DOLLARS right now especially with any company traded on wall street.
I ASKED to be laid off and have been unemployeed since the middle of October.
However my company had AT least 7 lay offs in the 3 years I was there.
They laid off people they needed and had to hire them back as consultants to do work at my site.
Its really all about dollars now because companies on wall street are only thinking quarter to quarter....
My work days were very very long.....I left for work at 5 A.M and got home at 8 P.M.
I had to quit for my health.
In the REAL WORLD of corporate america its really not all about being a good worker or someone knowledgable.....believe me its just not like that.
I feel bad for those losing their jobs but for me being laid off is great.
I just ran 4 miles and will do 2 more work outs today.
I never had time to work out before and was always tired,sleep deprived and stressed out.
No job is worth that.

the_corner
12-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.


You can do all of that and they will still kick your ass if they want to.

Odelay
12-02-2008, 08:18 PM
I add my voice to the ones who point out that you can "suck up" in all of the ways Corvettedude is talking about and still get laid off. All employment contracts are "at will" these days, except for those under a good union contract. That means your employer can lay you off for any reason or no reason.

That doesn't mean sucking up is necessarily bad. Just pick your spots.

One modification... be careful about the unpaid overtime... extra hours that aren't clocked. You're better off developing your skills in an evening community college class... or attempting to get work in the underground community where you get paid cash and it isn't reported to the IRS.

For those who are unemployed... be a hawk with your unemployment insurance compensation. Dot all the "i's". Cross all the "t's". If there is an extension, make sure you take advantage of it. As you collect unemployment, try to make a few extra bucks wherever in the underground economy... collecting cash so it doesn't count against your unemployment checks.

Hang in there!

Cut expenses. Move to a cheaper apt. Get rid of your car, if possible. If you live in an urban area, Zipcar is a far more economical way to get around.

2009 will be rough, but the entire world is in this together so every nation everywhere will be motivated to turn this baby around. At that point employment opp's will increase. And everyone will get a mulligan for having a gap in their resume as far as 2009 is concerned.

msbhaven
12-03-2008, 06:43 AM
Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

This is exactly why they can keep their job and give it to the wage slave. At what point does this complete submission compensate fairly into dollars? How much exactly are your balls worth?

This is why I finally got a whiff of reality- being an escort is better than this ass-kissing, pandering, whimpering castration. Who should live like this? Cowering in fear every weekend wondering if your name is still on payroll Friday? There is no such thing as company loyalty. There is no such thing as hard work equals job security. There is no fairness, and anyone that thinks there is better have a deep savings account. Not to mention a retirement plan that doesn't lose half it's value due to stock plummet.

Sorry, I can't pretend I really care about the corporation, that I don't resent that fuckhead boss for his condescending attitude, that I have to check my balls at the door. Sorry, I think theres more self respect in getting fucked on my couch than being a wage slave.

Melissa have you been reading my mind? So much of what you wrote echos how I feel. I hate working for other people because it always means you are dependent on someone else's moods and whims. I feel like I've been shit on most of my life by the people I've worked for no matter how hard I've worked, what I've accomplished, or how much extra I have given. I've thought to myself if I'm going to be fucked metaphorically by everyone I might as well get fucked literally by everyone and at least make a nice living at it. Do you think I'm pretty enough to be a working girl?

Ashlee

melissacarter
12-03-2008, 04:17 PM
Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

This is exactly why they can keep their job and give it to the wage slave. At what point does this complete submission compensate fairly into dollars? How much exactly are your balls worth?

This is why I finally got a whiff of reality- being an escort is better than this ass-kissing, pandering, whimpering castration. Who should live like this? Cowering in fear every weekend wondering if your name is still on payroll Friday? There is no such thing as company loyalty. There is no such thing as hard work equals job security. There is no fairness, and anyone that thinks there is better have a deep savings account. Not to mention a retirement plan that doesn't lose half it's value due to stock plummet.

Sorry, I can't pretend I really care about the corporation, that I don't resent that fuckhead boss for his condescending attitude, that I have to check my balls at the door. Sorry, I think theres more self respect in getting fucked on my couch than being a wage slave.

Melissa have you been reading my mind? So much of what you wrote echos how I feel. I hate working for other people because it always means you are dependent on someone else's moods and whims. I feel like I've been shit on most of my life by the people I've worked for no matter how hard I've worked, what I've accomplished, or how much extra I have given. I've thought to myself if I'm going to be fucked metaphorically by everyone I might as well get fucked literally by everyone and at least make a nice living at it. Do you think I'm pretty enough to be a working girl?

Ashlee

Ashlee,

I see you have posed this question to a number of people. It is really a question you ought pose to yourself. And you might want to substitute the word "pretty" with the word "smart" because I have found, and this comes from a working girl, it's not about being pretty it's about business.

Most of these "clients" want to spend 45 minutes between your legs, which is 46 too much, and they don't really care how pretty you are just as long as you're not a truck driver. It is a business you have to learn on your own, no one can help you, and it is a business you either sink or swim, and if you do swim you learn more in six months than you might learn in three years at most jobs. It is a business with a creep factor of 1000%.

On the other hand, you call your own hours, answer to no one, find yourself outside of mainstream, owe nothing to corporate America, but you also live and die by your dates. And God forbid something should happen to you, like let's say a car accident, or you choose cosmetic surgery (both of which happened for me); you better have some cash reserves because there's no workmen's comp in the whore industry.

So to ask about "pretty" is, to me, beside the point. If you want to discuss privately pm me, and we can chat.

Richctdude
12-03-2008, 04:24 PM
sorry too hear that

Justawannabe
12-03-2008, 05:42 PM
Sad to hear this happened to you, too many folks are dealing with this...

On the suck up to the boss routine... we've been doing this as a country for a long while. Real wages have been dropping for most americans for a long while, and hours have been going up. Corporate America has been calling it productivity increases, but even a lot of my Dad's contacts have been calling it unpaid overtime.



Sean

meditation
12-07-2008, 10:21 AM
I feel bad for you but, have to add this comment. It addresses, not only your situation, but anyone that may be approaching a similar the same possibilities.

Unless you ARE the Top Dog in your environment, this applies to you....

Where, in the past, you could express you opinions more freely, turn down offers for OT or extra resposibility, that luxury is now, and for any forseeable future....GONE. It is NOT about you anymore, and never really was)unlike my ex-wife thinks)! It is now all about your VALUE to your employer...why your employer should keep you on the payroll, as opposed to someone else, senior, junior or otherwise. This means;

Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

The bottom line is, you are very lucky to have a job. To give yourself the best opportunity of keeping it, you need to make yourself vital and un-replaceable. You need to be worth your weight in Gold without "asking" for a pay raise. With all this "downsizing" going on, it's not up to your employer to keep you in a job, it's entirely up to you to ensure you're doing everything possible to keep it. In this environment, "loyalty" is a concept, not a reality.

Ask yourself this question....If you were your employer, WHY should you be kept on the payroll, what is your value to the company?

Best of luck with your situation!

thats a good advice..wow..its really getting down to the bottom of the race now..

meditation
12-07-2008, 10:23 AM
Early to work, late to leave.
ANY time you're asked to do somethig, the answer is YES.
Asking to take on more responsibility.
Offering to come in on days off.
Making damn sure your tasks are completed, early and done correctly the first time.
Making sure your employer SEES, FEELS and UNDERSTANDS you are a valuable part of the TEAM.
Sucking up negative comments from co-workers and turning them into positive assets.

This is exactly why they can keep their job and give it to the wage slave. At what point does this complete submission compensate fairly into dollars? How much exactly are your balls worth?

This is why I finally got a whiff of reality- being an escort is better than this ass-kissing, pandering, whimpering castration. Who should live like this? Cowering in fear every weekend wondering if your name is still on payroll Friday? There is no such thing as company loyalty. There is no such thing as hard work equals job security. There is no fairness, and anyone that thinks there is better have a deep savings account. Not to mention a retirement plan that doesn't lose half it's value due to stock plummet.

Sorry, I can't pretend I really care about the corporation, that I don't resent that fuckhead boss for his condescending attitude, that I have to check my balls at the door. Sorry, I think theres more self respect in getting fucked on my couch than being a wage slave.

thats very insightful and i tend to agree with you.