Tyra Banks Show pay for Sex Change Op for Isis King

[timxxx]

Tyra arrange Sex Change Operation for Isis King,the transgender contestant on America's Next Top Model. On tomorrows Tyra Banks Show.


http://www.usmagazine.com/news/tyra-banks-to-pay-for-sex-change-operation-for-contestant

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Wonderful news.

I am very happy that Tyra has featured many postive transsexual stories on her shows.

[JANIRA]

I live for Isis,, correct me if im wrong but on that same show preview i saw there is gonna be another Tg on there and i think it's Ana.... cant wait to see Isis..

[Willie Escalade]

I hope they're doing this because it's a nice thing and not because of publicity.

By the way, read some of the comments. I'm not that religious (even though I went to a catholic school for 13 years), but leave God out of it! :evil:

[timxxx]

I hope they're doing this because it's a nice thing and not because of publicity.


Both l think, the reasons are not mutually exclusive :wink:

[eddymunster90]

I hope they're doing this because it's a nice thing and not because of publicity.

By the way, read some of the comments. I'm not that religious (even though I went to a catholic school for 13 years), but leave God out of it! :evil:

They wouldn't have put it on the air for all to see if it was purely something nice.

[eddymunster90]

oops.

[Alyssa87]

wow, she probably want her srs more then that modeling contract anyhow.

getitgirl!

[slinky]

Am I the only one who worries that she hasn't gone thru all the "proper" pre-SRS steps and will be pressured into possibly doing an "inappropriate" SRS due to the publicity, public pressure (once everyone "knows" it, how do you say "no, I'm not really ready for that yet", etc.

[slinky]

I live for Isis,, correct me if im wrong but on that same show preview i saw there is gonna be another Tg on there and i think it's Ana.... cant wait to see Isis..

While she has an amazing and unique look, there's no way Ana is appropriate for that show, which (even though I don't really follow it) has been about high fashion modeling. I think if they have Ana on, it really points to them using TS models as more of a stunt than earnestly.

[slinky]

PS I'm not trying to hate, but on that clip from the Tyra show, I don't see Isis as all that and a bag of chips. She just looks like any "average" good looking TS. There are plenty of girls on here who look just as good or better.

[JANIRA]

I live for Isis,, correct me if im wrong but on that same show preview i saw there is gonna be another Tg on there and i think it's Ana.... cant wait to see Isis..

While she has an amazing and unique look, there's no way Ana is appropriate for that show, which (even though I don't really follow it) has been about high fashion modeling. I think if they have Ana on, it really points to them using TS models as more of a stunt than earnestly.

Haven't they?!!! With that said im not saying Tyra does /or does not have Tg's on there for ratings only.... but it does play a big part.

I for one feel that as long as she discusses and portrays Tg's in a positve light & manner ..oppose to "JERRY / MAURY (My opinion ) it does not matter if she gets higher ratings doing so.

As far as Ana in the same show, in a different segement, they have 4 girls on couch and 1 of them is a Tg,, and it looked like Ana,,, like i said before I could be wrong..lol... in that segment it is not about modeling.

[JANIRA]

PS I'm not trying to hate, but on that clip from the Tyra show, I don't see Isis as all that and a bag of chips. She just looks like any "average" good looking TS. There are plenty of girls on here who look just as good or better.


I think Isis is very pretty ,, has a very unique look. I have never been one to favor conventional beauty, I love a unique face, different style, and flaws can make someone even more beautiful,........Like the saying i created goes............"Perfection is non-exsistant.....there is beauty in every flaw"


Rosie delpalma a model who modeled for Gaultier, etc.. Was once discribed as a walking Picasso because of her odd features

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Am I the only one who worries that she hasn't gone thru all the "proper" pre-SRS steps and will be pressured into possibly doing an "inappropriate" SRS due to the publicity, public pressure (once everyone "knows" it, how do you say "no, I'm not really ready for that yet", etc.

I am sure that Dr. Bowers has offered to perform the operation at no cost, but she still needs to meet all of the requirements that any patient who undergoes SRS in the US must have

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery.html

[slinky]

I am sure that Dr. Bowers has offered to perform the operation at no cost, but she still needs to meet all of the requirements that any patient who undergoes SRS in the US must have

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery.html

It's not so much that I disbelieve that's what everyone is currently thinking. But I would bet she's not so close right now to meeting the guidelines which Dr. Bowers (from what I understand) conforms to. So there's a moderate to long road ahead. And these things are difficult at best to deal with. Add to it the outside pressure on EVERYONE from all the publicity (especially Isis and Dr. Bowers) that it becomes very hard not to get influenced by it, and the deeper you go into it, the harder it is to call it off, even if that's really the "right" thing to do, because of all the build-up.

It's sort of like a really big wedding: it gets planned for 2 years, there's all this money and "publicity" laid out, everyone is so excited....... that even if the bride and groom realize that perhaps it's not what they really want after all, they don't know how to stop the snowball rolling down the hill.

I guess what I'm saying is that I can't think of a worse circumstance (aside from the money) for someone to make what is probably the most important decision in their life under. there will be all sorts of pressures heaped on top of the usual pressures, and from what I've seen, just those usual pressures are a huge burden to bear.

[tsntx]

i could care less as long as they dont try to bring her back to top model for round 2

she couldnt cut it as a model b4 surg she isnt going to w/ a vag either

:2cents

[RangeHova]

I really didn't think Isis had it either but in many of the shots, she shined. ANTM always has a unique looker or two on each season and Isis fit that role, as well as the French chick who is still in the running.

Say what you want but Isis is better looking that that French chick or the one from a few seasons ago that ended up robbing some store. She made it until the last 3 or 4.

About Marci Bowers, I'm just speaking on what I heard from some friends of mine but is it true that he vaginas aren't all that real looking? I've only seen a few surgical vaginas and the ones that I seen that were done in Canada were by far the best.

I have spoken on this before here, but I dated a girl that had hers done in Canada and it actually felt better than a genetic vagina. Literally the best I ever had. I had others and they were not on that level.

[tsntx]

Am I the only one who worries that she hasn't gone thru all the "proper" pre-SRS steps and will be pressured into possibly doing an "inappropriate" SRS due to the publicity, public pressure (once everyone "knows" it, how do you say "no, I'm not really ready for that yet", etc.

I am sure that Dr. Bowers has offered to perform the operation at no cost, but she still needs to meet all of the requirements that any patient who undergoes SRS in the US must have

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery.html

at no cost to isis maybe
marci gets paid for appearances
tyras sponsors paid for the surg

[Teydyn]

She just looks like any "average" good looking TS. There are plenty of girls on here who look just as good or better.
Modeling is not so much about the looks, its about your talent too. Or how can we explain models like Kate Moss otherwise?

[peggygee]

Am I the only one who worries that she hasn't gone thru all the "proper" pre-SRS steps and will be pressured into possibly doing an "inappropriate" SRS due to the publicity, public pressure (once everyone "knows" it, how do you say "no, I'm not really ready for that yet", etc.

I am sure that Dr. Bowers has offered to perform the operation at no cost, but she still needs to meet all of the requirements that any patient who undergoes SRS in the US must have

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery.html

The only major stipulation that Dr. Bowers strays from the Harry S.
Benjamin Standards Of Care, is in requiring electrolysis of the genital
region.

Other than that, I would feel that Isis has met the RLT, ie. 12 or more
months living in the targeted gender. Also that she is of a legal age to
make a decision of this nature.

Psychotherapy, and HRT are not mandatory, but are advisable

XII. Genital Surgery

Eligibility Criteria. These minimum eligibility criteria for various genital
surgeries equally apply to biologic males and females seeking genital
surgery. They are:

Legal age of majority in the patient's nation;

Usually 12 months of continuous hormonal therapy for those without a
medical contraindication (see below "Can Surgery Be Provided Without
Hormones and the Real-life Experience"); 12 months of successful
continuous full time real-life experience. Periods of returning to the
original gender may indicate ambivalence about proceeding and generally
should not be used to fulfill this criterion;

If required by the mental health professional, regular responsible
participation in psychotherapy throughout the real life experience at a
frequency determined jointly by the patient and the mental health
professional. Psychotherapy per se is not an absolute eligibility criterion
for surgery;

Demonstrable knowledge of the cost, required lengths of hospitalizations,
likely complications, and post-surgical rehabilitation requirements of
various surgical approaches;

Awareness of different competent surgeons.
Readiness Criteria. The readiness criteria include:

Demonstrable progress in consolidating one’s gender identity;

Demonstrable progress in dealing with work, family, and interpersonal
issues resulting in a significantly better state of mental health; this implies
satisfactory control of problems such as sociopathy, substance abuse,
psychosis, suicidality, for instance).

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/hbsoc_2001.html

[peggygee]

About Marci Bowers, I'm just speaking on what I heard from some friends of mine but is it true that he vaginas aren't all that real looking? I've only seen a few surgical vaginas and the ones that I seen that were done in Canada were by far the best.

I have spoken on this before here, but I dated a girl that had hers done in Canada and it actually felt better than a genetic vagina. Literally the best I ever had. I had others and they were not on that level.

From surgical outcome that I have seen, and from women that I have
spoken with in regards to GRS, Dr. Bowers is not in my top ten list of
surgeons performing GRS.

From my own surgical outcome, and many other women that I have
known and spoken with, I prefer and would recommend the Thai
surgeons, such as Preecha, Suporn, Saran, as well as a few others.

Having said that Dr. Yvon Menard, and Dr. Pierre Brassard of Montreal
are known for producing excellent results.

Of course there are a number of excellent surgeons stateside.

Dr Harold Reed of Miami is one that readily comes to mind.

[RangeHova]

Thanks for the info Peggy. I just had a discussion with an ex who seems to think that the procedure is straightforward enough that any doctor will do. She saw Marcy Bowers on Oprah so in her mind she became the best, the go to doctor for SRS. In her mind technology has advanced far enough that it is common enough that most of the issues are a thing if the past.

I also think she is reluctant to go to Canada just because of the fact that I gained my knowledge of the skills of of those doctors through actual sexual contact with another girl, despite the fact it was years before I meet her. Even as an ex she is very jealous.

[alyssats]

i must confest that girl look modelesque fierce sistahh fierce

[bassman2546]

I think Tyra is a closet tranny lover. And that's a good thing. When Gia Darling was on the show, I had this fantasy that they did it together in her dressing room. Hot stuff!

[JANIRA]

OK my mistake its not Ana,,lol the clip was so small i i just thought,,lol but Anyways....

Isis is so grounded and very focused,and i admire her her openness sh has the right mind state to go far and achieve what ever she wants. Kudos to her and especaily her mom ( who is beautiful)...

[peggygee]

Thanks for the info Peggy. I just had a discussion with an ex who seems to think that the procedure is straightforward enough that any doctor will do. She saw Marcy Bowers on Oprah so in her mind she became the best, the go to doctor for SRS. In her mind technology has advanced far enough that it is common enough that most of the issues are a thing if the past.

I also think she is reluctant to go to Canada just because of the fact that I gained my knowledge of the skills of of those doctors through actual sexual contact with another girl, despite the fact it was years before I meet her. Even as an ex she is very jealous.

You're welcome RH, anything for you, or a Sister in need. :wink:

While on the one hand the techniques involved with gender re-assignment
surgery have been ironed out, and it is a fairly straightforward procedure.

However, Dr. Bowers who took over the practice of Dr. Stanley Biber in
Trinidad Colorado has only performed a few hundred of the surgeries.

Whereas many of the Thai, Canadian, or a number of domestic surgeons
have easily performed thousands.

Couple the experience of the Thais with their cost, and you can clearly see
the bang for the buck, when doing a cost benifit analysis.

Bottom line, for most women this is the culmination of a life long dream.

Therefore I would implore any woman contemplating GRS to do her
research. Talk with other post op women, talk with various surgeons,
view their results, do journal research.

While there are procedures to correct less that perfect surgical outcomes,
ideally the woman would like to get as close to perfection the first time
around.

[peggygee]

Dr. Preecha Tiewtranon, MD

http://www.pai.co.th/

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/pai_tream5x2.jpg

Services
Price(US$) Deposit(US$) Offer(US$)

Male to Female (MtF)
Penile Skin Inversion / Vaginal Plasty Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 7,500 750
Sigmoid Colon/ Rectosigmoid Vaginoplasty/ Rectosigmoid Colon Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 9,500 950
Labiaplasty (Repair) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 300
Bilateral Orchiectomy (BO) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,000 200
Aesthetic Revision Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,150 300

[peggygee]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/doctorsaran1.jpg

http://www.doctorsaran.com/

Surgical Procedure Doctor Saran Price

(USD) Deposit

(USD) Service Inclusions

Facial and Head Contouring
Upper Eyelid Surgery 700 350 Click Here
Lower Eyelid Surgery 700 350 Click Here
Full Face Lift 4,000 2,000 Click Here
Mini Face Lift 2,500 375 Click Here
Forehead Lift 2,000 1,000 Click Here
Nose Augmentation 700 350 Click Here
Nose Reduction 2,500 1,250 Click Here

Alaplasty 500 250 Click Here
Cheek Bone Contouring 2,000 1,000 Click Here
Cheek Augmentation 2,000 1,000 Click Here
Chin Augmentation 1,000 500 Click Here
Chin Shaving 2,300 1,150 Click Here
Ear Surgery 1,000 500 Click Here

Botox Injection 600 300 Click Here
Fat Injection 500 250 Click Here
Hair Transplant 2,500 - 5,000 1,250 - 2,500 Click Here
Breast
Breast Augmentation 2,500 1,250 Click Here
Breast Reduction 3,000 1,500 Click Here
Breast Reconstruction Click Here

Sex Reassignment Surgery (SRS)
Male to Female 5,000 2,500 Click Here
Sigmoid Colon 8,000 4,000 Click Here
Bilateral Orchiectomy (BO) 2,000 1,000 Click Here
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Adam's Apple Contouring 600 300 Click Here
Fat Injection 500 250

[peggygee]

Dr. Harold Reed

http://www.srsmiami.com/MTF-male-to-female.html

Fee on an outpatient basis at our Florida state registered office facility to include one overnight stay: $13,500.

NOTICE:
GRANT FUNDING to provide MTF vaginoplasty from $5,000 to $8,500, allotment for 5 cases.

Please write admin@srsmiami.com for details.

[peggygee]

Here is something for the girls down under, who may desire 'down under' surgery. :P

Australian transwomen often will travel to Thailand for GRS, both for their
level of expertise and cost.

Due to it's close proximity, as the 'crow flies' that may be a viable option.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/aus-thai.jpg

However if as you state you are beginning your transition and are needing
endocronological, psych, etc followup, here are a few providers;

Gender Dysphoria Clinic,
Department of Adult Psychiatry,
Monash Medical Centre
246 Clayton Road, Clayton, 3168
Phone 03 8541 6303

Dr Trudy Kennedy
1/545 St Kilda Road, Melbourne 3004.
Phone 03 9510 3446

The Brisbane Gender Clinic
484 Adelaide Street, Brisbane, 4000.
Phone 07 3227 8679

Cavanaugh Medical Centre,
90 Woods Street,
Darwin, 0800

Dr Linda Hoffman
Ground Floor,
St. Helens Private Hospital,
186 Macquarie Street, Hobart, 7000.
Phone 002 23 2872

Dr John Graham
Ashford Specialist Centre,
Anzac Highway, Ashford
Phone 08 8297 0888
Fax 08 8297 0060

Dr Peter Haertsch
Suite 209, 2 Pembroke Street, Epping, 2121.
Phone 02 98685155

The Gender Centre
PO Box 266,
Petersham, 2048
Phone 02 95692366 (business hours)

Good luck.

[peggygee]

Dr. Yvon Menard
Dr. Pierre Brassard

http://www.grsmontreal.com/anglais.html

[phobun]

I think Tyra is a closet tranny lover. And that's a good thing.
I think Tyra is a closet tranny. And that's a good thing.

[drock]

I hope they're doing this because it's a nice thing and not because of publicity.

By the way, read some of the comments. I'm not that religious (even though I went to a catholic school for 13 years), but leave God out of it! :evil:

Probably only the publicity.. I don't know why she has a burning urge to get the surgery anyway but I guesss i'll never know..

[drock]

This has nothing to do with the topic but damn i'd love love bang Isis; I think she's sexy as shit.

[michneo]

who did Danielle's Surgery jeezus it's looks perfect