NICE GUY?

[YasminLee]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Solitary???

you got this one you bitch ass?!?

[saifan]

We're out there... That's what makes love so grand. If it was easy to find it wouldn't nearly be as exciting.

[hwbs]

Solitary???

you got this one you bitch ass?!?


he is prob at a Tupperware party !!!

[JamesHunt]

stop calling us faggots :lol:

[DS-Kika]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.
Look, most nice guys, who go for girls or T-girls, are shot down, made fun of, pushed around and tormented their whole lives. I know from experience. We become loners, military, and capitalists who only want to be alone because of the pain we feel. We are taught by experience that nice never gets us anything but regret and harm. Most who say thats not true either fake being nice, or just wanna get laid.

Us nice guys are a dying breed. Women just need to accept that, they treat nice guys like crap all the way threw highschool and college and expect us to be there when they mature, but we don't, we die on the inside, or change to jerks to be accepted.

[Solitary Brother]

Solitary???

you got this one you bitch ass?!?

Ha ha

I dont date porn stars.

Sorry.

Happy veterans day JWBL.

[El Nino]

Move to Boston :) You will find at least one guy that matches your description, out here!

[slinky]

I'm not saying this to hate, but if you're asking for advice on obtaining a long term relationship, I'm not sure that asking a bunch of sex workers and whore mongers is that best place to do it.

[TabStorm]

Nice guys are out there but they are not usually the rich and rugged guys. They didn't get that way from being nice.
Go geek!

[blckhaze]

Good luck Ms Lee.
Isn't easy for anyone, and TS aren't an exception.

[hwbs]

Solitary???

you got this one you bitch ass?!?

Ha ha

I dont date porn stars.

Sorry.

Happy veterans day JWBL.


this is what he is in to and porn has nothing to do with it .....

Quote from Solitary Brother.....


The one in the blue is giving me what I want.
She is pussy down

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Woods RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blckhaze]

HWBS Strikes again.

[alpha2117]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.

Well I'm not a lady but heres what I think. You're a beauty and beauties can often have a problem finding a genuine guy. A ordinary looking girl meets a guy who likes her and knows that he likes her for her personality. A beauty meets a guy and there are all these complications, is he just looking for a trophy etc etc. The trans scene is worse than normal too because a lot of guys wouldn't really want to really date a T girl long term, so it's just about sex rather than a proper relationship. In a str8 relationship the guy may not be looking for a longterm relationship but a short term one may still morph into a long term relationship.

My last long term girlfreind was in the country to learn English. I met her through another islander girl I knew at a bbqa few days after she arrived in the country. She was very nice looking and I am at best described as a "toad". I wasn't trying to pick her up beause frankly looks wise she was way out of my league. She didn't know much English so I helped her out with a few things like getting a place to stay for the rest of the 12 months he was here for (she hated the backpacker place she was in). It wasn't much effort and it made me feel good to help out. She ended up making a move on me. I was stunned, happy but stunned. For once in my life I was one of those ugly guys with the great looking girlfreind who you always look at and go ... what the?

I'm afraid I cant tell you where to look. Finding someone who likes you for you can always be hard. All I can say is it' always easier to meet people through freinds and social occasions (rather than nightclubs)

[Solitary Brother]

Solitary???

you got this one you bitch ass?!?

Ha ha

I dont date porn stars.

Sorry.

Happy veterans day JWBL.


this is what he is in to and porn has nothing to do with it .....

Quote from Solitary Brother.....


The one in the blue is giving me what I want.
She is pussy down

He is tuna fish cunt!
Shes such a fucking lady!
Ha ha!

[hwbs]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Woods RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hey but we are not saying there is anything wrong with that..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Yo Yas, sorry about hijacking your thread, but let's be honest...............you can have just about anyone you want!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

Happy kwanzaa

[DS-Kika]

Yo Yas, sorry about hijacking your thread, but let's be honest...............you can have just about anyone you want!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

Happy kwanzaa
The problem is that most nice guys are too shy or insecure to reveil them selfs, That our they become gay from years of rejection.

[pattyboy]

dang yasmin id stick with you for sure

[goldensamba]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.
Look, most nice guys, who go for girls or T-girls, are shot down, made fun of, pushed around and tormented their whole lives. I know from experience. We become loners, military, and capitalists who only want to be alone because of the pain we feel. We are taught by experience that nice never gets us anything but regret and harm. Most who say thats not true either fake being nice, or just wanna get laid.

Us nice guys are a dying breed. Women just need to accept that, they treat nice guys like crap all the way threw highschool and college and expect us to be there when they mature, but we don't, we die on the inside, or change to jerks to be accepted.

I'll have to disagree with you here. Some of us are just normal successful guys who like people no matter what they may be and what thier gender may or may not be. There are a few of us who don't see working girls for the exact reson. We would rather be with a girl who also wants to be with us than pay for someone to spend time with. If a guy has a choice of getting all the GG girls he can handle or being with a TS girl you can bet the high level of drama is going to make him lean toward the GG.

TS girls might also want to tell your sisters to stop calling some of these nice guys faggots, etc. They are going to be less apt to seek out nice TS girls for relationships if they are constantly beaten down.

My 2 cents.......

[keepingitreal470]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.
Look, most nice guys, who go for girls or T-girls, are shot down, made fun of, pushed around and tormented their whole lives. I know from experience. We become loners, military, and capitalists who only want to be alone because of the pain we feel. We are taught by experience that nice never gets us anything but regret and harm. Most who say thats not true either fake being nice, or just wanna get laid.

Us nice guys are a dying breed. Women just need to accept that, they treat nice guys like crap all the way threw highschool and college and expect us to be there when they mature, but we don't, we die on the inside, or change to jerks to be accepted.

I'll have to disagree with you here. Some of us are just normal successful guys who like people no matter what they may be and what thier gender may or may not be. There are a few of us who don't see working girls for the exact reson. We would rather be with a girl who also wants to be with us than pay for someone to spend time with. If a guy has a choice of getting all the GG girls he can handle or being with a TS girl you can bet the high level of drama is going to make him lean toward the GG.

TS girls might also want to tell your sisters to stop calling some of these nice guys faggots, etc. They are going to be less apt to seek out nice TS girls for relationships if they are constantly beaten down.
My 2 cents.......Good Point!!!!!!!

[ocguy]

Us nice guys usually arent given the chance, I mean I know I am not the best looking guy, but unfortunately most girls cant get beyond that.

[DS-Kika]

Us nice guys usually arent given the chance, I mean I know I am not the best looking guy, but unfortunately most girls cant get beyond that.
Trust me, even if you were the best looking, you'd be shot down. Its what 99.999...% of women do! They say they want a nice guy, but then spit in our faces.

[slinky]

the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...

You may want to deeply examine that statement.

[bipoker]

You've already been intimate with thousands upon thousands of guys, pick one

[Fox]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.
Look, most nice guys, who go for girls or T-girls, are shot down, made fun of, pushed around and tormented their whole lives. I know from experience. We become loners, military, and capitalists who only want to be alone because of the pain we feel. We are taught by experience that nice never gets us anything but regret and harm. Most who say thats not true either fake being nice, or just wanna get laid.

Us nice guys are a dying breed. Women just need to accept that, they treat nice guys like crap all the way threw highschool and college and expect us to be there when they mature, but we don't, we die on the inside, or change to jerks to be accepted.

I'll have to disagree with you here. Some of us are just normal successful guys who like people no matter what they may be and what thier gender may or may not be. There are a few of us who don't see working girls for the exact reson. We would rather be with a girl who also wants to be with us than pay for someone to spend time with. If a guy has a choice of getting all the GG girls he can handle or being with a TS girl you can bet the high level of drama is going to make him lean toward the GG.

TS girls might also want to tell your sisters to stop calling some of these nice guys faggots, etc. They are going to be less apt to seek out nice TS girls for relationships if they are constantly beaten down.

My 2 cents.......

Basically, that. Although personally I'm not affected by the faggot thing, it damn sure isn't helping.

By the way, where are you searching, Yasmin?

[beatmaker]

The truth of the matter is, you have two impediments going against you Yasmin: you're a transsexual in a homophobic world and you're a porn star. Many GG porn stars don't have sustainable relationships, due to the nature of their work. Shyt, it's hard for the local GG stripper to have a sustainable, meaningful relationship with a "good man", who takes her seriously. As a result, they end up with losers, pimps and thugs. Men tend to have this wife/mother vs. whore/jumpoff dichotomy, where they have women who they feel are marriage material, who will make good mothers and role models, then you have the woman who are built for sex only. That's real talk, whether it's fair or not. Most transsexuals that I see, out and about in NYC with their boyfriends looking happy and fulfilled, tend to be at least 90% passable, so they don't illicit stares, ignorant comments/ridicule and they don't work in the sex industry at all. I remember a Latin TS, I would see in Midtown NYC with her boyfriend afterwork on a regular basis. She wore 9-5 business attire, but her large, veiny hands and big, pumped-up silicone booty gave her away to the trained eye. Most people couldn't "clock" her and those that did look, where looking at her huge ass. Since, I'm into TSs, I can usually spot one, even one who is really passable (most of the time). I remember I saw Babydoll years ago, walking down 8th Avenue and dudes were just sweating her, they had no idea she was a TS. I wouldn't clock her either, except I saw her in one of Joey Silvera's movies. I saw Jennie aka J-Lo, who dances at Sunny's party at the Puerto Rican Parade Festival this year and the same drooling response from guys in the streets, even though her face is a bit masculine, the body is all woman. Men do care what their fellow "mankind" thinks of them, so to be called "faggot" because you're out with a TS, even when you have ZERO attraction to physical men, makes most guys take pause. It's analogous to men who are attracted to fat women. They creep in the background with them or use the internet to fetishize these women and get their rocks off. There's White men who are very attracted to Black women, but will never date one in public, because their upper class WASPY family and friends think Blacks are beneath them. So, they get on some Hugh Grant shyt, cruising around looking for some Devine Brown, Brown Sugar whatever!

Back to good men, a "good guy" tends to have certain moral principles and codes, that might make them apprehensive about having a true, romantic relationship with someone whose sexual exploits are a mouseclick or DVD away. People tend to gravitate towards like-minded people. A women with a Master's Degree and high-powered corporate job, probably would not want to have a serious relationship with a guy with a GED working for UPS. Look at Barack and Michelle Obama or Bill and Hillary Clinton. All four are Ivy League Law School Grades (Bill & Hillary @ Yale and Barack & Michelle @ Harvard). At most, these types of women would use blue collar dudes for some sex gratification, when they get horny and are sick of the vibrator. I'm in my early 30's and have no children, do I really want to date a woman with 4 kids, by 2 different guys out of wedlock? She could have a heart of gold, but I can't swallow that pill, since I'm waiting to start my family until I get married and I'm a guy.

Unfortunately, transsexuals trying to find "true love", is like a circle trying to fit into a square world. It's possible, but it seems to be uncommon, especially for those who escort and do porn. Also, as a transsexual ages, her physical masculinity tends to become more pronouce and harder to camouflauge, without having excessive plastic surgery and looking like a cartoon character. Men won't be honest, but this is also a fear in the minds of many, when it comes to having a long-term romantic relationship with a TS.

P.S: I was channel surfing Sunday night and saw the World's Heaviest Man, who weighed over 1000 pounds on the Discovery Channel. This dude had a devoted girlfriend, who would come by his house and take care of him (enabler to the Nth). She wasn't unattractive either, just an average looking Mexican women, who was slightly overweight, but not fat. If this guy can do it, you can do it Yasmin. Shyt, he can't even leave the house or whip his own ass and he got someone to love him. Like the old saying "There is somebody for everybody".

[JamesHunt]

The truth of the matter is, you have two impediments going against you Yasmin: you're a transsexual in a homophobic world and you're a porn star. Many GG porn stars don't have sustainable relationships, due to the nature of their work. Shyt, it's hard for the local GG stripper to have a sustainable, meaningful relationship with a "good man", who takes her seriously. As a result, they end up with losers, pimps and thugs. Men tend to have this wife/mother vs. whore/jumpoff dichotomy, where they have women who they feel are marriage material, who will make good mothers and role models, then you have the woman who are built for sex only. That's real talk, whether it's fair or not. Most transsexuals that I see, out and about in NYC with their boyfriends looking happy and fulfilled, tend to be at least 90% passable, so they don't illicit stares, ignorant comments/ridicule and they don't work in the sex industry at all. I remember a Latin TS, I would see in Midtown NYC with her boyfriend afterwork on a regular basis. She wore 9-5 business attire, but her large, veiny hands and big, pumped-up silicone booty gave her away to the trained eye. Most people couldn't "clock" her and those that did look, where looking at her huge ass. Since, I'm into TSs, I can usually spot one, even one who is really passable (most of the time). I remember I saw Babydoll years ago, walking down 8th Avenue and dudes were just sweating her, they had no idea she was a TS. I wouldn't clock her either, except I saw her in one of Joey Silvera's movies. I saw Jennie aka J-Lo, who dances at Sunny's party at the Puerto Rican Parade Festival this year and the same drooling response from guys in the streets, even though her face is a bit masculine, the body is all woman. Men do care what their fellow "mankind" thinks of them, so to be called "faggot" because you're out with a TS, even when you have ZERO attraction to physical men, makes most guys take pause. It's analogous to men who are attracted to fat women. They creep in the background with them or use the internet to fetishize these women and get their rocks off. There's White men who are very attracted to Black women, but will never date one in public, because their upper class WASPY family and friends think Blacks are beneath them. So, they get on some Hugh Grant shyt, cruising around looking for some Devine Brown, Brown Sugar whatever!

Back to good men, a "good guy" tends to have certain moral principles and codes, that might make them apprehensive about having a true, romantic relationship with someone whose sexual exploits are a mouseclick or DVD away. People tend to gravitate towards like-minded people. A women with a Master's Degree and high-powered corporate job, probably would not want to have a serious relationship with a guy with a GED working for UPS. Look at Barack and Michelle Obama or Bill and Hillary Clinton. All four are Ivy League Law School Grades (Bill & Hillary @ Yale and Barack & Michelle @ Harvard). At most, these types of women would use blue collar dudes for some sex gratification, when they get horny and are sick of the vibrator. I'm in my early 30's and have no children, do I really want to date a woman with 4 kids, by 2 different guys out of wedlock? She could have a heart of gold, but I can't swallow that pill, since I'm waiting to start my family until I get married and I'm a guy.

Unfortunately, transsexuals trying to find "true love", is like a circle trying to fit into a square world. It's possible, but it seems to be uncommon, especially for those who escort and do porn. Also, as a transsexual ages, her physical masculinity tends to become more pronouce and harder to camouflauge, without having excessive plastic surgery and looking like a cartoon character. Men won't be honest, but this is also a fear in the minds of many, when it comes to having a long-term romantic relationship with a TS.

P.S: I was channel surfing Sunday night and saw the World's Heaviest Man, who weighed over 1000 pounds on the Discovery Channel. This dude had a devoted girlfriend, who would come by his house and take care of him (enabler to the Nth). She wasn't unattractive either, just an average looking Mexican women, who was slightly overweight, but not fat. If this guy can do it, you can do it Yasmin. Shyt, he can't even leave the house or whip his own ass and he got someone to love him. Like the old saying "There is somebody for everybody".

WTF, can anyone here decipher this :lol:

[beatmaker]

Shyt, he can't even leave the house or whip his own ass and he got someone to love him. Like the old saying "There is somebody for everybody".

I mean "wipe" his own ass. I'm in shape and I can't "whip" my own ass, LOL!

[bipoker]

Yeah, he said:

Unfortunately, transsexuals trying to find "true love", is like a circle trying to fit into a square world. It's possible, but it seems to be uncommon, especially for those who escort and do porn.

[beatmaker]

The truth of the matter is, you have two impediments going against you Yasmin: you're a transsexual in a homophobic world and you're a porn star. Many GG porn stars don't have sustainable relationships, due to the nature of their work. Shyt, it's hard for the local GG stripper to have a sustainable, meaningful relationship with a "good man", who takes her seriously. As a result, they end up with losers, pimps and thugs. Men tend to have this wife/mother vs. whore/jumpoff dichotomy, where they have women who they feel are marriage material, who will make good mothers and role models, then you have the woman who are built for sex only. That's real talk, whether it's fair or not. Most transsexuals that I see, out and about in NYC with their boyfriends looking happy and fulfilled, tend to be at least 90% passable, so they don't illicit stares, ignorant comments/ridicule and they don't work in the sex industry at all. I remember a Latin TS, I would see in Midtown NYC with her boyfriend afterwork on a regular basis. She wore 9-5 business attire, but her large, veiny hands and big, pumped-up silicone booty gave her away to the trained eye. Most people couldn't "clock" her and those that did look, where looking at her huge ass. Since, I'm into TSs, I can usually spot one, even one who is really passable (most of the time). I remember I saw Babydoll years ago, walking down 8th Avenue and dudes were just sweating her, they had no idea she was a TS. I wouldn't clock her either, except I saw her in one of Joey Silvera's movies. I saw Jennie aka J-Lo, who dances at Sunny's party at the Puerto Rican Parade Festival this year and the same drooling response from guys in the streets, even though her face is a bit masculine, the body is all woman. Men do care what their fellow "mankind" thinks of them, so to be called "faggot" because you're out with a TS, even when you have ZERO attraction to physical men, makes most guys take pause. It's analogous to men who are attracted to fat women. They creep in the background with them or use the internet to fetishize these women and get their rocks off. There's White men who are very attracted to Black women, but will never date one in public, because their upper class WASPY family and friends think Blacks are beneath them. So, they get on some Hugh Grant shyt, cruising around looking for some Devine Brown, Brown Sugar whatever!

Back to good men, a "good guy" tends to have certain moral principles and codes, that might make them apprehensive about having a true, romantic relationship with someone whose sexual exploits are a mouseclick or DVD away. People tend to gravitate towards like-minded people. A women with a Master's Degree and high-powered corporate job, probably would not want to have a serious relationship with a guy with a GED working for UPS. Look at Barack and Michelle Obama or Bill and Hillary Clinton. All four are Ivy League Law School Grades (Bill & Hillary @ Yale and Barack & Michelle @ Harvard). At most, these types of women would use blue collar dudes for some sex gratification, when they get horny and are sick of the vibrator. I'm in my early 30's and have no children, do I really want to date a woman with 4 kids, by 2 different guys out of wedlock? She could have a heart of gold, but I can't swallow that pill, since I'm waiting to start my family until I get married and I'm a guy.

Unfortunately, transsexuals trying to find "true love", is like a circle trying to fit into a square world. It's possible, but it seems to be uncommon, especially for those who escort and do porn. Also, as a transsexual ages, her physical masculinity tends to become more pronouce and harder to camouflauge, without having excessive plastic surgery and looking like a cartoon character. Men won't be honest, but this is also a fear in the minds of many, when it comes to having a long-term romantic relationship with a TS.

P.S: I was channel surfing Sunday night and saw the World's Heaviest Man, who weighed over 1000 pounds on the Discovery Channel. This dude had a devoted girlfriend, who would come by his house and take care of him (enabler to the Nth). She wasn't unattractive either, just an average looking Mexican women, who was slightly overweight, but not fat. If this guy can do it, you can do it Yasmin. Shyt, he can't even leave the house or whip his own ass and he got someone to love him. Like the old saying "There is somebody for everybody".

WTF, can anyone here decipher this :lol:

First off, I just posted this like a two minutes ago, which means your dumbass couldn't have read the whole thing that fast. You see I posted an spelling correction right away and it's under your post.

And yes, people with average to above average intellects can decipher what I said. People who can think about things with some forethought. You're just here to look at pictures of cocks, so shut the fuck up and go to the "Huge Cocks" thread, where no intellect is required, just some vaseline and your hand.

[slinky]

For the most part, i have to agree with beatmaker.

[JamesHunt]

You're just here to look at pictures of cocks, so shut the fuck up and go to the "Huge Cocks" thread, where no intellect is required, just some vaseline and your hand.

Talkin from experience there beatmaker?

[beatmaker]

You're just here to look at pictures of cocks, so shut the fuck up and go to the "Huge Cocks" thread, where no intellect is required, just some vaseline and your hand.

Talkin from experience there beatmaker?

James, you're a real comedian (rimshot)! A Regular Riot! Now go away and play somewhere, grow folks are talking.

[speck]

What is it you are really looking for Yasmin?

[JonnyT]

from my perspective i'm not looking specifically for a tg woman but if i were to meet one that i was attracted to i wouldnt hesitate to take her out and do "normal" things with her because if i cared for her what other people think would not stop me or concern me. my point is i would treat a gg or tg the same otherwise whats the point. from a sexual point of view i feel that if i was attracted to the person as a whole then how we choose to please each other is our business and our business alone. being fairly new here i can see that people become jaundiced looking for and at only 1 dimension of a 3 dimensional human being. In the end thats what youll get, a cock with boobs. that will get old real fast or youll become obsessed jumping from one ts to another. its a dead end path. id rather fore go the sex and find a real person that attracts me and let the sex just come as a natural part of a growing relationship. yasmin ask yourself, what are your priorities in looking for a mate? once you can put those priorities in the correct order your search will be successful and you will find happiness nice guy or not. good luck to you. you are a beautiful woman and appear to have a good heart. you will make someone very proud to stand by your side no matter where you are. :wink:

[Justawannabe]

Us nicer guys can get a bit bitter over time. Get used enough times by the girls and you start to turn into the jerks the girls usually go for as a matter of survival.

Guys don't generally like to share, and when you start off having to share your girls with a lot of guys who are jerks... just not worth the pain. Easier to find a girl you maybe not even as attracted too (brains and bod here) because you won't have to deal with some asshole talking smack about what he did with your girl.

Sean

that's all disjointed, but I'm tired, so not going to clear it up... the ex- wants me to help her and love her while she's off whoring it up in New York with the girl she took off with two years ago... why the fuck would I want to support someone who like that?

and yeah, I'm bitter as hell right now...

[YasminLee]

thank you guys (some) and especially all the girls that emailed me with your love and wisdom..and boo to all the guys that don't understand the full capacity of the ts life. there seem to be a lot of blame that the girls are working and that's the problem. i know many girls that never worked their whole life and one that only been wtih 2 guys period her whole life. i can assure you the issue is deeper beyond your notion..sometimes we feel to realize that 9 of 10 plus ts girls are escort. that is a social imbalance. guys who likes ts girls should understand that going in. you can either pay and benefit the sex or jump into that world if you want to date one...however understand that when dating a ts you are now apart of the ts obstacle. i guess im asking where are the guys that are not waiting for the lottery of that perfect girl. born gorgeous and not needing money for surgery or hormones..happend to have a great supportive family etc..
and sorry i didn't proof read or spell check...

[slinky]

i guess im asking where are the guys that are not waiting for the lottery of that perfect girl.

That knife cuts both ways.

[Solitary Brother]

thank you guys (some) and especially all the girls that emailed me with your love and wisdom..and boo to all the guys that don't understand the full capacity of the ts life. there seem to be a lot of blame that the girls are working and that's the problem. i know many girls that never worked their whole life and one that only been wtih 2 guys period her whole life. i can assure you the issue is deeper beyond your notion..sometimes we feel to realize that 9 of 10 plus ts girls are escort. that is a social imbalance. guys who likes ts girls should understand that going in. you can either pay and benefit the sex or jump into that world if you want to date one...however understand that when dating a ts you are now apart of the ts obstacle. i guess im asking where are the guys that are not waiting for the lottery of that perfect girl. born gorgeous and not needing money for surgery or hormones..happend to have a great supportive family etc..
and sorry i didn't proof read or spell check...





Did you mean what you said?
You said "9 of 10 plus ts girls are escort".

"Guys should understand that going in"

hmmmm

I hope some of you that got on me read that.
Im not saying it she is.

I never getting any credit for anything on this board.

Have a good day.

[Legend]

thank you guys (some) and especially all the girls that emailed me with your love and wisdom..and boo to all the guys that don't understand the full capacity of the ts life. there seem to be a lot of blame that the girls are working and that's the problem. i know many girls that never worked their whole life and one that only been wtih 2 guys period her whole life. i can assure you the issue is deeper beyond your notion..sometimes we feel to realize that 9 of 10 plus ts girls are escort. that is a social imbalance. guys who likes ts girls should understand that going in. you can either pay and benefit the sex or jump into that world if you want to date one...however understand that when dating a ts you are now apart of the ts obstacle. i guess im asking where are the guys that are not waiting for the lottery of that perfect girl. born gorgeous and not needing money for surgery or hormones..happend to have a great supportive family etc..
and sorry i didn't proof read or spell check...





Did you mean what you said?
You said "9 of 10 plus ts girls are escort".

"Guys should understand that going in"

hmmmm

I hope some of you that got on me read that.
Im not saying it she is.

I never getting any credit for anything on this board.

Have a good day.


Shut up and mind your freakin buisness.

[DL_NL]

Why are all T-girls looking for a guy half a planet away? :?

[Bone Dry]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.


Ever have one of those days, when you're feeling so good, crossing a street, driving your car, shopping at the mall, when, from a distance you see a complete stranger, with a kindly face, and you simply can't help yourself from whispering a silent "I love you..."?

Cool, because there has been many a time, in many a place, when some unknown face whispered the same to you....

Hang in there Ms Lee, I am sure you will meet the right guy, probably when you least expect it. :D

[Justawannabe]

Sorry if I came across all fucked up Yasmin... the timing was bad.

I'm not down on the girls who work in the adult industry. It's a perfectly valid way for a girl to make the money she needs, but I do see where it will cause problems for a potential boyfriend. Especially escorting, as sharing an image is one thing, sharing the actual physical person is harder.

Your lovely and you seem sweet enough on the board. Lots of guys would love to be with you, me included just from what I've seen and read. But by turning sex into work, you take it out of the special category to some degree. Relationships are already hard, that just weaknesses things.

All this means is you have to work harder to make the man feel special. Make him feel he is chosen, and that you will never change your mind. This is hard in normal relationships, when you are sharing sex, which normally is one of the big binding activities... well it's harder. What physically separates what you do for your man from what you do for others?

Men are often in the 'show me' category. So how do you show rather than say he is The One?

Anyway, I'm rambling, touchy subject for me, given the ex calling me for help and offering her love as part of the deal to help her out... (I'd have helped her out as a friend, but offering false affection like that...) so I apologize if that bitterness spilled into your thread. You ask a real question, I'm trying to give you a real answer about it. There is a reason men get bitter, and nice guys that I've met have no time for the game.

They want someone who is looking to settle down with them, party with them, etc. Having to watch, imagine or hear about your girls exploits with other men... just plays into to many things we're hard wired for. No matter how enlightened, you need to compensate for that.

Sean

[Ponyboy]

I think beatmaker made a very good point - most GG sex-workers have trouble with relationships. I can imagine any guy meeting Yasmin would be in awe and would have to change his mindset as he got to know her. I can imagine if I met Yasmin I would go through a number of emotions. Some guys would first see her as a pornstar - perhaps feeling intimidated, perhaps feeling they're in a fantasy and not dealing with the deeper emotional aspects of a relationship. Then there are questions of jealousy or even feeling inferior next to her. I can immagine there would be alot of weird emotions floating around for the guy to contend with.

If they see her as a fantasy, what happens when reality settles in?

Of course, everybody has trouble finding their soul mate but I can imagine being a pornstar makes it worse. Then when you add in the complexities of being a tgirl, I can understand why Yasmin feels the way she does.

I wish I could one day meet you Yasmin - you would probably find me too short, but I would worship you

[yosi]

Hang in there Ms Lee, I am sure you will meet the right guy, probably when you least expect it. :D

we never met , yet , Ms Lee :wink:

[wombat33]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.


Dear Yasmine,

Though I am not a lady, I would like to answer if that is ok.

For me, I was once in love with a ts girl and very much wanted to make her my partner for life, my wife, my bride. I wanted to take her everywhere, show her off, just as she is, to my family reunions, to my best friends, and proudly walk with her everywhere. I would stand beside her no matter what. I wanted to spoil her for life, do all the little things that made her happy, and spend my spare time making her feel as special as I felt she was. I was completely ready for the commitment.

Is was SHE who did not commit because she wanted the whole package. I am a "regular" looking guy I suppose. Big, strong, football player type I guess. Not a hot looking model type. I did not have shit loads of money, but made a good salary. I was 9 years older than her, but a good looking,, in shape, well presented guy. She wanted a veryfinancially well off guy, who lookked like a model more than she wanted to be truly loved for who she was.

I find many of the girls on here are the same way. VERY picky and VERY superficial at times. They even admit it over and over again. They might be looking for "Mr. Right" according to the chipendale's calendar, rather than thier true soulmate.

Also...........and I say this because I think you areone of the sweetest people I have ever heard from on here and have SO much class.............think about where you are looking for him!!!!! At a club? A TS Club? Most guys are there hiding from who they really are or thier wives. Most of them will not be out and about with a TS woman and lover her and stand proudly with her as they are out in public.

What about going to museums, libraries, the aquarium, cultural events and parades, volunteer to feed the homeless, do something OUT OF THE ORDINARY to look for that some one special. CHANGE WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AND HOW YOU ARE LOOKING!!

YOU TOTALLY DESERVE TO BE HAPPY!!!!

I for one could handle a relationship with a girl that is a ts and even in porn. Not a problem for me. I love GG woman and TS women the same. At this point in my life it happens I found the woman for me in the GG form. Best of all is she knows all about me and my TS interest and supports me fully. I am happy to be with some one so special.

Mr. right is out there and some one so beautiful and special like you will find him. You will.

All the best to you on your search Yasmine!

[SXFX]

I don't know if this has been said;
You girls are affraid of the "nice guy" and call him a troll or a TS chaser or what ever. Well affraid isn't the right world. Just not interested. Why? Because he's an easy catch!
Now the a-hole who will treat you like shit and hit on your best friend! OOOOH now that's a keeper right? He's the challange! He's not pussy whiped! You can change him!

You TS girls are so much like every other GG girl you don't even know. I bet your brain waves are almost identical.

[SXFX]

...

[vman2375]

THINK U 'LL HAVE MORE OBSTACLES BEING IN PORN, EVEN THOUGH TS OR NOT , EVERYONE HAS A TOUGH TIME FINDING THE RIGHT PARTNER.

[SXFX]

Oh pleas!
My dream when I was younger was to marry a stripper!
Do you know how much those girls make!
That and all the sexy clothes they have and all their hot friends!
Pleas! Porn / stripping is a non issue.
The issue is that a nice guy is an easy catch.
And no girl is ever interested in a easy catch!

[SUPPLY42]

Hi Yasmin, Larry feom Iraq here. Pm me or send me an email address. I have an honestly true story to relate to you. I may answer your question.

[OEMEnemyNum1]

I'd have to say there are tons of nice guys on this board. The only reason they stay nice is because they dont get pussy thrown at them all the time.

Hate to say it, but the only thing that makes someone a nice guy is lack of options. People are all pretty much the same, and when someone breaks into a certain level of cockiness their personality changes.

I've known a few nice guys, that end up being complete dickheads later in life.

The reason nice guys don't get a lot of girls......When they do get girls, they are no longer nice guys.

So when it comes down to being a nice guy, I say fuck it.

[jesseflo]

im in the same boat. i never find a good nice guy to love. most guys i meet are using me and the others dont appreciate me or are embarrassed of me. ive yet to find my dream guy but im still hopeful. :D

[Alaska Guy]

I am not so sure I am convinced that ladies want a nice guy. I mean sure they seem to want a nice guy when they get shit on by a "bad boy" but when they feel all better again it's back to the bad boys, and girls just say "thanks nice guy, I feel better now, but let's just be friends."

It's a weird cycle that we all play a part in it seems. I know that I am a nice guy, and I don't want to start treating people like shit to get the girl that I want because that's against my moral integrity. I know I can't force the issue and if a girl doesn't see the value in me or vice versa then it wasn't meant to be.

Still, the nice guy thing is irritating after awhile. The truth is, women want a combo of both nice guy and bad boy. She doesn't just want one or the other. So nice guys, find that girl that you can be bad around TOGETHER!

Hey, I think I will try to take my own advice here! lol it's easy to give advice but to take ur own? lol

[muhmuh]

Us nicer guys can get a bit bitter over time. Get used enough times by the girls and you start to turn into the jerks the girls usually go for as a matter of survival.

1) if youre able to turn into a jerk youre not nice in the first place
2) declaring all women stupid enough to only be after jerks makes you an ass
3) "get used" why is it that every time you delve deeper into the nice guy topic you end up with a long list of all the things he did for her expecting her to open her legs at some point? what youre doing is expecting a relationship to work on the same basis as prostitution

[artemis2085]

im in the same boat. i never find a good nice guy to love. most guys i meet are using me and the others dont appreciate me or are embarrassed of me. ive yet to find my dream guy but im still hopeful. :D

It honestly begins with taking those qualities you long for and forgetting about them. Just do it. Put it in the back of your mind. Then out of nowhere, you will be reminded of those qualities in that person. And might I add, he would be a very lucky gentleman (at least lets definitely hope hes the latter).

When you stop "looking", that is when you meet that one person who just does it for you...

[Sunny Dee-lite]

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, MY TWO CENTS...

I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR SET OF MORALS, VALUES, AND SUCH. WHICH HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN ANSWERING THIS QUESTION...

AS FOR MYSELF I AM EXTREMELY HARD ON MYSELF, ON THE WAY I AM VIEWED...SO I JUDGE ANYONE HAVE DATED WITH THE SAME REGARD!

WE ALL HAVE CRITERIA AND STANDARDS TO MEET. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR BACKGROUND IS ,YOU ARE JUDGED. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD REGULAR JOBS IN RETAIL MANAGEMENT AND IN MAKE-UP ARTISTRY BEFORE I EVER STARTED TO BE A PARTY PROMOTER(NOT THAT I AM DOING ANYTHING WRONG BY BEING A PARTY PROMOTER .I AM JUST MORE "OUTED" IN THE PUBLIC EYE) AND DEALT WITH DATING PEOPLE IN THE PAST THAT WERE ASHAMED OF ME FOR BEING A TS. WHEN THEY MET ME KNOWING I WAS A TS. :cry:

I AM MORE OPEN ABOUT MY LIFE NOW THAN EVER! BUT EVEN WHEN I WASN'T AS IN THE "PUBLIC EYE" I HAD ISSUES TOO! PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS STEREOTYPE YOU FOR WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE! SOMEONE WILL ALWAYS KNOW YOU ARE A TRANNY. MY HEIGHT, SOMETIMES MY VOICE, SOMETIMES EVEN "SHE TOO PERFECT SHE HAS TO BE A MAN" HAVE BEEN SOME OF MY OWN OBSTACLES IN DATING...LOL. SO A PERSON WILLING TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH ME HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT...

I TRY MY HARDEST EVERYDAY TO SHOW PEOPLE LOVING CARE AND CONCERN NO MATTER WHAT BACKGROUND OR CURRENT LIFE SITUATIONS THEY HAVE HAD!

WE ALL HAVE BAGGAGE AND FINDING SOMEONE TO SHARE A LIFE WITH IS DIFFICULT. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR SEXUAL PREFERRENCE IS! THE TS POOL IS JUST SMALLER AND HARDER TO FIND MISTER OR MISS RIGHT!

ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON IS WHEN YOU STOP LOOKING AND LEAST EXPECT IT ....IT GETS YA! THERE IS NO SCIENCE TO IT....THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO ALWAYS BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER AND ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BOTH OF YOUR NEEDS AND MAKE SURE THEY MATCH!

HOPE IT HELPED SOME OUT...AND SORRY MY "TWO CENTS" TURNED INTO A BUCK FIFTY...LOL! :lol:

P.S. I LIKE THAT MY BOYFRIEND IS TALL HE MAKES ME FEEL PETITE!

[doradora]

what happened to you?

I'm just new member.
but in my memorys, I never watched that like this post from you.
i worry about you. :(


and about Where can find nice man...

that is..that is....それは何かこんな感じ. :?
:arrow: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUVdA9ABzpg

してもがんばれ! ヤスミンさん!!! :cry:

but when you found him, you'll forget this post. :mrgreen:

[winslo2]

We are out here. I for one, would love to meet you Yasmin. If you ever would like to travel to Minnesota, you would find a good looking fun loving guy that would have no problems being with you.

[scroller]

I'd have to say there are tons of nice guys on this board. The only reason they stay nice is because they dont get pussy thrown at them all the time.

Hate to say it, but the only thing that makes someone a nice guy is lack of options. People are all pretty much the same, and when someone breaks into a certain level of cockiness their personality changes.

I've known a few nice guys, that end up being complete dickheads later in life.

The reason nice guys don't get a lot of girls......When they do get girls, they are no longer nice guys.

So when it comes down to being a nice guy, I say fuck it.

This is probably mostly true. I really wish someone could have told me at age ~17 that girls are not really "turned on" by nice guys.


Separately: Sunny's picture with Dr. B. filled me with all sorts of happiness. :)

[slinky]

I'd have to say there are tons of nice guys on this board. The only reason they stay nice is because they dont get pussy thrown at them all the time.

Hate to say it, but the only thing that makes someone a nice guy is lack of options. People are all pretty much the same, and when someone breaks into a certain level of cockiness their personality changes.

I've known a few nice guys, that end up being complete dickheads later in life.

The reason nice guys don't get a lot of girls......When they do get girls, they are no longer nice guys.

So when it comes down to being a nice guy, I say fuck it.

I don't think this is universally true. I'm a "nice guy" (at least I think I am; maybe some of the girls who have met me in real life will give an opinion; don't hold back - let fly!), and I have a decent amount of options, and at an earlier point in my life I had pretty limitless options and it didn't stop me from being a nice guy. But you can be a nice guy and still stick up for yourself and not stand for any bullshit (unless you think guys who won't stand for any bullshit don't fit the "nice guy" defnition).

[PapiBear]

In the words of David DeAngelo, "Attraction is not a choice." It's why you see lots of hot women going out with unemployed jerk losers. Someone like you can use this two different ways:
First, it's really easy to attract nice guys by being attractive to them and by following the 7 rules of attracting amazing guys.

The second part is training your nice guy to attract you without turning him into a jerk.

Both or these things require intent and ingenuity. But once you know the secrets, it's easy as pie.

Remember, no decent guy wakes up thinking, "I don't want to meet the girl of my dreams today." Things that seem outrageous in theory, through familiarity and repetition, become everyday, comonplace and normal. And if someone is really attracted to you, they will quickly compromise less important beliefs, though often by small degrees. The trick is in knowing how to use their own thinking in your favor. Again, it's easy.

In fact, once you understand the basic psychology not only will you be amazed as you discover just how many places in your life you end up using it, you will kick yourself because it is so obvious that you will wonder why you never did it before.

[altarica]

Oh Yasmin, Yasmin,Yasmin.
I already told you where the elusive nice guy you seek is.
He lives in Bournemouth in the UK.
He is an older guy,50,so he has his shit together,is non-judgemental and from what he knows of you,thinks that maybe for once in his life he could make it work with you.
He isn't a rich guy,just a regular guy,working his way through life the best he can.
He would treat you like a princess, looking after all your emotional and physical wants and needs.
Wanna give it a try?
Oh his name you ask.
Altarica.

[Solitary Brother]

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, MY TWO CENTS...

I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR SET OF MORALS, VALUES, AND SUCH. WHICH HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN ANSWERING THIS QUESTION...

AS FOR MYSELF I AM EXTREMELY HARD ON MYSELF, ON THE WAY I AM VIEWED...SO I JUDGE ANYONE HAVE DATED WITH THE SAME REGARD!

WE ALL HAVE CRITERIA AND STANDARDS TO MEET. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR BACKGROUND IS ,YOU ARE JUDGED. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD REGULAR JOBS IN RETAIL MANAGEMENT AND IN MAKE-UP ARTISTRY BEFORE I EVER STARTED TO BE A PARTY PROMOTER(NOT THAT I AM DOING ANYTHING WRONG BY BEING A PARTY PROMOTER .I AM JUST MORE "OUTED" IN THE PUBLIC EYE) AND DEALT WITH DATING PEOPLE IN THE PAST THAT WERE ASHAMED OF ME FOR BEING A TS. WHEN THEY MET ME KNOWING I WAS A TS. :cry:

I AM MORE OPEN ABOUT MY LIFE NOW THAN EVER! BUT EVEN WHEN I WASN'T AS IN THE "PUBLIC EYE" I HAD ISSUES TOO! PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS STEREOTYPE YOU FOR WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE! SOMEONE WILL ALWAYS KNOW YOU ARE A TRANNY. MY HEIGHT, SOMETIMES MY VOICE, SOMETIMES EVEN "SHE TOO PERFECT SHE HAS TO BE A MAN" HAVE BEEN SOME OF MY OWN OBSTACLES IN DATING...LOL. SO A PERSON WILLING TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH ME HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT...

I TRY MY HARDEST EVERYDAY TO SHOW PEOPLE LOVING CARE AND CONCERN NO MATTER WHAT BACKGROUND OR CURRENT LIFE SITUATIONS THEY HAVE HAD!

WE ALL HAVE BAGGAGE AND FINDING SOMEONE TO SHARE A LIFE WITH IS DIFFICULT. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR SEXUAL PREFERRENCE IS! THE TS POOL IS JUST SMALLER AND HARDER TO FIND MISTER OR MISS RIGHT!

ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON IS WHEN YOU STOP LOOKING AND LEAST EXPECT IT ....IT GETS YA! THERE IS NO SCIENCE TO IT....THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO ALWAYS BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER AND ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BOTH OF YOUR NEEDS AND MAKE SURE THEY MATCH!

HOPE IT HELPED SOME OUT...AND SORRY MY "TWO CENTS" TURNED INTO A BUCK FIFTY...LOL! :lol:

P.S. I LIKE THAT MY BOYFRIEND IS TALL HE MAKES ME FEEL PETITE!

Im taller than you.

[BlackAdder]

Seriously Yasmin, If you cant find a decent guy with the way you look, and assuming you have a personality that doesnt send people screaming, then I think you must have an unrealistic dating expectation. All the time I hear, "Why cant i find a decent guy".....PFFFF...... Ladies, they are ALL over the place...They just dont look like Brad Pitt or make six figure incomes.

EDIT...oops...She asking the ladies...In which case ill second the guy who said that this is the worst forum to ask that question in, considering.

[Legspreader]

You are a porn star Yasmin, so there must be a nice guy in the porn industry you can date and have a relationship with!lol.

[Justawannabe]

Just wanted to respond to this given it snipped a line from one of mine...

1) if youre able to turn into a jerk youre not nice in the first place
2) declaring all women stupid enough to only be after jerks makes you an ass
3) "get used" why is it that every time you delve deeper into the nice guy topic you end up with a long list of all the things he did for her expecting her to open her legs at some point? what youre doing is expecting a relationship to work on the same basis as prostitution

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1) If your immune to the effects of your environment, your not human. Everyone gets changed by what happens to them.

2) Women aren't 'stupid' for wanting jerks, but it is often the case. Why, because jerks tend to confident, outgoing folks... successful jerks are even funny as long as your not the butt end of their humor. Usually the jerk part is something you discover after the first few nights out. The women don't keep them, but they do tend to have the outward traits women are looking for.

3) The getting used part has nothing to do with prostitution. It has to do with someone portraying their feeling for you as one thing when they are another. You think you are giving your time and emotion to someone who is giving the same in return, it has nothing to do with sex and money. When you find out they never REALLY felt that way, you feel you paid for a performance... and you can indeed get THAT from a sex provider for something much less expensive than you heart and moments of your life.

My previous comments are best summed up as this...

It's about taking something intimate and making it public, when you do that, you need to put something back into the intimate... something else to make the other person feel special.

Nice guys tend to get abused. Why, because they don't demand the attention... and they aren't hard to get, so folk tend to put less effort in. They also tend to be a bit less exciting, so the grass tends to look greener at the party next door. But a relationship is more about the home you have than the party you visit.

Abused people tend to shy away from them that inflicts the abuse. So a bit harder to find, and specifically harder if you come from the categories that tend to inflict the abuse.

I'm sure I'll be less bitchy soon... but please... try to see through the frustration and read the intent of the posts if you can.

It's about feelings, respect and holding your head up in public. Most guys can do that even with a girl in the adult industry if they have stuff with her they know is all theirs, no matter what smack some ass says at the bar. But your gonna have to prove to him that he honestly has it.

Sean

[YasminLee]

Seriously Yasmin, If you cant find a decent guy with the way you look, and assuming you have a personality that doesnt send people screaming, then I think you must have an unrealistic dating expectation. All the time I hear, "Why cant i find a decent guy".....PFFFF...... Ladies, they are ALL over the place...They just dont look like Brad Pitt or make six figure incomes.

EDIT...oops...She asking the ladies...In which case ill second the guy who said that this is the worst forum to ask that question in, considering.

I'm sorry to disappoint u but i'm actually not that vain. I had dated 4 guys my whole life, 2 which was really serious and type wise they range across the board. The things they all share in common was a great personality and ramen noodle broke. So no, i do not date base on look and or money. I do as ask for chemistry and attraction whether mental or physical.

the last guy...i met him on myspace. didn't think much. i just thought he was cute and i have a major thing for guys with glasses. i was bored one eve and call him up for a date. He picked me up at my hotel, well dress like a scholar and greeted me with a warm smile. we went to a bar in midtown, had a drink and a little snack. I was about to call it a night and suggest going back to my hotel n sleep. As we was leaving the restaurant he asked if I want to join him to the opera tomorrow or the next day. WOW...here's a guy not pushing to get laid and sweetly ask me out again to a really sweet date. well that turn me on and i wen to his place..we had sex 2times that night. again in the morning, again at my hotel. again before we went to "les mes" not the opera. i fell for him when we caught each other crying to some of the musical scores, "on my own". after our date, well we go for it again. only 2 dates and i'm having feelings for him...i thought we had a perfect relationship..i was open to 3somes 4, 5, and one time even 9. gorgeous girls all for him to share with me. 1 year passed and i love him more than ever. actually close my eyes and see him 80yrs in the future, growing old together...he express to me that my working was bothering him..we originally talked about it before we got serious and shooting for a 2 yrs before stop for a regular job and life..well 1 year he quit on me...by then i was looking for work, back in school...waitressing, and eating ramen noodles. giving up the lifestyle i'm used too all for love..i was willing to go to the end of the world for him. did i mention that during our relationship we never have any fights or arguments. It was perfect until that day he broke my heart and left me.

[PapiBear]

he express to me that my working was bothering him..we originally talked about it before we got serious and shooting for a 2 yrs before stop for a regular job and life..well 1 year he quit on me...by then i was looking for work, back in school...waitressing, and eating ramen noodles. giving up the lifestyle i'm used too all for love.

Yasmin,
This is one of the clear example of someone falling in love with you for who you are (a movie star), demanding that you change, and then being surprised that you're not the girl he fell in love with.

What he most likely wanted was strong, confident Yasmin Lee. What he got was someone who was "willing to go to the end of the world for him."

So he bolted.

The psych reasons behind this would take a small book to describe. Let's just say that guys aren't rational. What they think they want or say they want has absolutely nothing to do with how they will really act. (Hey, just look at the guys who say they want to lose a few pounds. Next thing you know, they're eating pizza and drinking beer.) Know what I mean?

The good news is that once you understand what really is going on, well, it's like turning on the lights. You can definitely have a great relationship. And no, you won't have to change.

There are tons of guys looking for someone just like you--and most of them probably don't even know it...yet

[phobun]

he express to me that my working was bothering him..we originally talked about it before we got serious and shooting for a 2 yrs before stop for a regular job and life..well 1 year he quit on me...by then i was looking for work, back in school...waitressing, and eating ramen noodles. giving up the lifestyle i'm used too all for love.
I don't understand girls who say they want a nice guy, but who "work". A girl who chooses to "work" has a better chance of winning the lottery of Vatican City than finding a nice guy who is not old or a loser. A nice guy may show her some attention for a while but he will never be serious. Because nice guys grow up getting told over and over by mom and dad never to bring a girl like that home. They also get told that hookers have VD, are on drugs, have psych issues, too lazy to go to school or learn a real skill, etc. A guy might realize generalizations are not always true, but when he gets told that enough growing up, a guy's perception of such a girl is colored so that she will never be relationship material. There are some things you don't brag about and most guys will never show off a prostitute they're dating, with pride, to family.

Things may change with time. When he gets to be middle-aged, a little saggy, divorced, parents too old to realize what's going on or they've passed on, those are many of the older guys on here who might be living in la-la-land while dreaming of playing Edward Lewis to rescue the pretty woman Vivian from her working lifestyle. But the girl knows they will never be soulmates because they are not contemporaries, they grew up in different worlds.

If a girl wants a nice guy who's not too old, the best thing she can do is get a respectable career that will provide her a good living. Guys don't want relationship-quality girls to fall over them, they like a bit of a challenge or at least a chase, and to know the girl they like is successful in her own right. Then this is also a hedge for her in case he does leave her anyway.

[muhmuh]

1) If your immune to the effects of your environment, your not human. Everyone gets changed by what happens to them.

oh absolutely but anyone with a reasonably decent personality will draw the line somewhere and if someone is truely nice being a jerk would be so far removed from his nature that he couldnt get himself to do it
the problem with almost all self proclaimed nice guys is that the niceness is a veneer taught to them buy their relatives... be nice to auntie and youll get a treat well unfortunately relationships dont work that way and youre looking for a girlfriend/wife not another aunt

theres a huge difference between a guy whos nice because he expects something in return and someone who is naturally nice and girls pick up on that


You think you are giving your time and emotion to someone who is giving the same in return

theres the fundamental problem i mentioned earlier... you only do it because you expect something in return


Nice guys tend to get abused.

it always takes 2 to abuse


and they aren't hard to get, so folk tend to put less effort in.

another fundamental problem... being nice doesnt imply being easy
the word youre implying is desperate which will never ever work for pulling (maybe with the exception that the girl is every bit as desperate... two madtv lowered expectations types mating basically)


They also tend to be a bit less exciting

then for crying out loud be exciting... if what you talk about is as exciting to listen to as static noise im afraid you have work to do


But a relationship is more about the home you have than the party you visit.

a relationship that has any hope of working long time has to be both... security is good but not to the point where either one can be taken for granted

[Prefect]

What he most likely wanted was strong, confident Yasmin Lee. What he got was someone who was "willing to go to the end of the world for him."

So he bolted.

Are you high? She wasn't willing to go to the "end of the earth for him". She was in a profession that bothered him. A timeline was put in place because he knew it would be impossible for him to deal with her profession for the rest of his life. He made it pretty clear and declared what his boundaries were. Having boundaries isn't wrong. It isn't any different than someone falling in love with an alchoholic and making it known that things won't work unless things change. She was unwilling to give it up or in the least put it on pause and see how things go. Things were outside his boundaries. Relationships don't work when someone's boundaries are violated. Find someone whose boundaries match your own or change your behavior to match other peoples boundaries. Girls here complain about not being able to find this and that but they don't take into account how much their lifestyle shrinks the pool of people that would want to be in a serious longterm relationship with them. In my opinion, if a lot of girls gave up the lifestyle and got a real job and spent some time working with a charity, they would eventually bump into a nice guy.

The reason that "nice" guys lose is because they have no boundaries. I couldn't really date anyone that just let me do whatever I wanted. Anyone that doesn't have boundaries has no sense of self worth (confidence) or self respect. How does a relationship grow if the other person doesn't occasionally keep you in check and vice versa?

[shak411]

My name is shakur I am 32 I just moved back to DC from Seattle for my job I work for a Consulting firm. I am open and sure of myself no hangups or questions concerning what I am looking for in a relationship. I am not just looking to fullfull a fantisy or just a newbie to being involved with a TG woman. I have traveled the world and love to enjoy live and live to the fullest everyday. I would love to get passed this email thing and hang out and see how we vibe maybe a drink. Give me a call sometime I live in MD ten minutes from DC. Moving to NY in the next month. shakur_aka@yahoo.com

[tranzluvr21]

Word.



ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.
Look, most nice guys, who go for girls or T-girls, are shot down, made fun of, pushed around and tormented their whole lives. I know from experience. We become loners, military, and capitalists who only want to be alone because of the pain we feel. We are taught by experience that nice never gets us anything but regret and harm. Most who say thats not true either fake being nice, or just wanna get laid.

Us nice guys are a dying breed. Women just need to accept that, they treat nice guys like crap all the way threw highschool and college and expect us to be there when they mature, but we don't, we die on the inside, or change to jerks to be accepted.

[Justawannabe]

Sorry to hear about that guy Yasmin, having someone put in a year like that and drop you is wrong.

muhmuh

Still don't think we're really talking in the same language.

A person can be nice because he's nice. Hit him with a bat, he's nice, he backs off and asks why you hit him. Hit him again, he tries to block the blow and asks you to stop. Hit him again, and tries to take the bat away. Hit him again, use another bat, he may knock you down to show you there are limits. Hit him again, and he may swing a bat as enough of that.

He's still a nice man, even though he hit you with a bat, something we think of as jerkish.

Giving you time and emotion to someone who is not giving such things back is not being nice, it's being stupid. If they know they are not giving those things back and you do not, that's called abuse, mild or harsh depending on what is being given.

It does take two to get abuse, but it only takes one to do the action. Go back up to the bat analogy, the guy being swung at is suffering abuse.

I don't imply nice means easy in any negative way, I said they are less work to get. There tends to be less head games with a nice person, which is easier than being with someone who is playing with your head. They have standards like everyone else, but nice folks tend to be honest about them, so you have a better idea of what to do. You waste a lot less energy. Nothing there is vaguely reminiscent of desperate.

Less exciting being the that your not on the emotional roller coaster that comes with never knowing if the person is into you or not. Less exciting like shooting a gun at a range or hunting is less exciting than playing russian roulette.

My point about the home vs party is time. You will spent a much greater proportion of you time in a relationship just being with the person than going out to party/date/etc. Life is like that, you can only sprint so far before you need to get your breath back. If your person doesn't like you between sprints they won't like the majority of the time.

You work clean eat sleep far more than you will ever have sex, party, etc. When you just want to date, you may only interact with the person on the weekends at the club, diner, etc. Relationships are different.

Anyway, if you want to continue taking shots, lets go to pms. Maybe I'm just not understanding what you think nice means.

Sean

[PapiBear]

She was in a profession that bothered him. A timeline was put in place because he knew it would be impossible for him to deal with her profession for the rest of his life.

And what, exactly, is wrong with her profession? IMHO it's perfectly legit.
She didn't ask to be "rescued"; he knew what it was going in.

I have to laugh at all you wankers who lust after porn stars, would die to have one of your very own, and then, once you get her say, well, I love everything about you except the thing that attracted you in the first place.

Next you'll want her to prove that she's really a virgin. (Don't tell anyone, but she really is.)
:shock:

[muhmuh]

Still don't think we're really talking in the same language.

might be considereing english isnt my first language and your english is missing a lot of 'u's


A person can be nice because he's nice. Hit him with a bat, he's nice, he backs off and asks why you hit him. Hit him again, he tries to block the blow and asks you to stop. Hit him again, and tries to take the bat away. Hit him again, use another bat, he may knock you down to show you there are limits. Hit him again, and he may swing a bat as enough of that.

notice how its always the same guy hitting him


If they know they are not giving those things back and you do not, that's called abuse, mild or harsh depending on what is being given.

im sorry? abuse implies that it happens against your will... being nice does happen willingly
for your logic to work someone would have to be thick enough not to notice that the feeling isnt mutual for months


It does take two to get abuse, but it only takes one to do the action. Go back up to the bat analogy, the guy being swung at is suffering abuse.

oh absolutely but i for one have never taken a baseball bat to the face much less from a girl and if i had i rather doubt that the conclusion id arrive at would be that all girls are baseball bat swinging psychos


They have standards like everyone else

if those standards allow you to be used they desperately need some readjustment


Less exciting being the that your not on the emotional roller coaster that comes with never knowing if the person is into you or not.

theres a long way from making your intentions and interests unmistakably clear to being clingy
a rollercoaster and leaving no doubt that she isnt suitable by default and will have to spark some interest herself is two different matters


If your person doesn't like you between sprints they won't like the majority of the time.

so find someone else
in case you havent figured this one out yourself yet but the first reasonably attrictive girl you meet isnt necessarily your ideal life partner


Maybe I'm just not understanding what you think nice means.

nice probably means the same for both of us however there is a huge difference between being nice to the next best girl hoping that it will somehow make her open her legs for you and then going off on a rant about how all girls are stupid enough to only want assholes if she doesnt thus leaving very little doubt about the nature of your nice or on the other hand just genuinely being nice because that is who you are and or want to be

[altarica]

Sorry you got your heart broken Yasmin.
I really do know that feeling only too well. The feeling sick to the pit of the stomach,the deep dark depths of despair,the rage, the longing,the feeling used and abused,your most intimate self trampled all over.
Luckily time heals and bad experiences don't stop us longing to find that very special person in our lives.
I don't understand what your job has to with the way a person would feel about you. It is a job after all,it doesn't define who you are. A guy who dates a girl in your line of work needs to leave any jealous feelings he may have behind or stay the fuck away. I say this having dated a poledancer in the past. The reason we split up was down to her unwillingness to move to be with me and wanting to keep her baby daughter close to the baby's father. Not due to me wanting her to change in any way at all.
Anyway, I admit that the first thing that attracted me to you is your overwhelming beauty and your total raw sexuality.
Over a period of time though I have read things you have posted and what others have said about you and you seem to be the sweetest person imaginable with a genuine need and desire to find that one guy who will just give you all the love that I reckon you deserve and not be judgemental or jealous of your working life,just accept that it is what you do to make your way through life and isn't all defining. Love the person, not the porn star.
You have a smile that surely would light up any mans life.
I hope you find that man.
If you can't find him in the 200 million plus population of the USA and decide to come on over here to the UK for any reason,don't hesitate to get in touch with me.
Al xxx

[YasminLee]

i think it was a mistake sharing my personal life here....you boys take good care for now. xoxo

[blckhaze]

i think it was a mistake sharing my personal life here....you boys take good care for now. xoxo


Dont be disheartened.
You'll find someone on you level. Until then, puppies are always nice. :D

[aduusw]

yasmin i think that hust from earin u i fall in love with u... the bad thing is.. i live in israel

[mnguy21]

I know there are nice guys out there for you. but i think most are just scared.

[Dino Velvet]

I'm as nice as I am disgusting. PM me Yasmin. Heard you were a nice lady.

The Hangover - Nice Lady - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZH4h4etigo)

[Silcc69]

i think it was a mistake sharing my personal life here....you boys take good care for now. xoxo

Damn another one gone.

[Teydyn]

3 year old thread is 3 years old...

[Dino Velvet]

... as me and Señor Greasy stay laying in the weeds waiting for Yasmin.:fuckin:

[jerseyboy72]

Damn, Yasmine used to post here.

[Rolando]

this thread is THREE years old? can't be!

[lisaparadise]

3 year old thread is 3 years old...what kind of idiot brings up a 3 year old thread?

[Dino Velvet]

what kind of idiot brings up a 3 year old thread?

I would've waited to bump it on it's 5th Anniversary. Balloon drop and everything. Rodney King sings Louie Louie too.

[lisaparadise]

I would've waited to bump it on it's 5th Anniversary. Balloon drop and everything. Rodney King sings Louie Louie too.ROFLMFAO,somehow i cant see rod singin louie louie hes had his share of singin the blues im sure of that .

[Chuck]

Yasmin, I know you intended this for the girls, but allow me to offer a male perspective on this. Many of us men, who are well adjusted (as in comfortable with who we are) admittedly have a history of our own -- a past that might make us easilly judged by others, including the very trans-women we adore. Some girls still seem to live in a fantasy world where they are swept off their feet by a virgin prince. We tend to be in our late 30's and older. By this age men have outgrown the need to impress others or to prove themselves. Look around, and continue to look with your heart as I know you do.

[Nivek]

Good Luck, Yasmin, if and when u find him, ask him if he has a sister who's a Nice Girl. I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Yeah]

Yasmin is a sweetheart. Hope she finds herself a good guy.

[ashymon]

Wow, bringing up an ancient thread and peeps are trying to respond to her.

[kilgorerobert81]

ladies, so where can a girl find a nice respectable, sweet guy that is not afraid to be with a ts woman, passable or not. sometimes i feel like i can't wait to meet that person and run to the end of this square planet, only him and me holding on, keeping each other from falling off the edge. the longer i'm in this community, the longer i feel that he's not out there...i feel i decently new to the scene so mothers, sisters...what say you.

I would be honored to be by your side hold your hand in mine and show you a love like you didn't know was possible. Nice guys are out there just hard to see over the jerks that just see you as an object

[kilgorerobert81]

I know she is famous and will pop up first on a Google search but damn people be nice. She's still a human being with feelings. Her job should have nothing to do with her finding love or getting respect that she deserves. I look at her and see that big smile that warms my heart not a porn star.

[kilgorerobert81]

thank you guys (some) and especially all the girls that emailed me with your love and wisdom..and boo to all the guys that don't

understand the full capacity of the ts life. there seem to be a lot of blame that the girls are working and that's the problem. i know many girls that never worked their whole life and one that only been wtih 2 guys period her whole life. i can assure you the issue is deeper beyond your notion..sometimes we feel to realize that 9 of 10 plus ts girls are escort. that is a social imbalance. guys who likes ts girls should understand that going in. you can either pay and benefit the sex or jump into that world if you want to date one...however understand that when dating a ts you are now apart of the ts obstacle. i guess im asking where are the guys that are not waiting for the lottery of that perfect girl. born gorgeous and not needing money for surgery or hormones..happend to have a great supportive family etc..
and sorry i didn't proof read or spell check...

Hey sweetheart I don't see a porn star when I look at you I see a woman who makes money making people happy. I truly respect you and would love to chat and maybe have the honor of Takingyou out for dinner. I would need to know what your favorite flower is

[dreamon]

Wow, bringing up an ancient thread and peeps are trying to respond to her.

Was true 5 years ago, is true now.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Hey sweetheart I don't see a porn star when I look at you I see a woman who makes money making people happy. I truly respect you and would love to chat and maybe have the honor of Takingyou out for dinner. I would need to know what your favorite flower is

Tone it down and don't be a simp

[kilgorerobert81]

Tone it down and don't be a simp


Back the hell up I'll say whatever I want especially when it is to help someone and everything I said was 100% true

[scorpeo777]

Back the hell up I'll say whatever I want especially when it is to help someone and everything I said was 100% true

so you think the famous Yasmin Lee will who hasn't posted here for years will suddenly appear and reply to your post accepting a dinner invitation from a white knight with a user name kill gore robert? LMAO!

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Back the hell up I'll say whatever I want especially when it is to help someone and everything I said was 100% true

Alrighty then. Good luck with that nice guy "pick me, pick me" shit.

[tacocorp]

Last Activity 04-12-2014

So you have a snowball's chance in hell that she'll read it, however,good luck to you. :D