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Legend
11-05-2008, 06:03 AM
This is a historic event i am truly bless i was apart of it.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
11-05-2008, 06:05 AM
Yessssss!!!!

:P

~Kisses.

HTG

Jonny29
11-05-2008, 06:07 AM
yes every election is historic. Go Hillary 2012.lol

Jonny29
11-05-2008, 06:07 AM
yes every election is historic. Go Hillary 2012.lol

envivision
11-05-2008, 06:09 AM
There are riots and gunshots where I live.

It looks more like downtown fallujah where i live.

God help us all

Quiet Reflections
11-05-2008, 06:11 AM
yes every election is historic. Go Hillary 2012.lol
2012 will be the start of his second term

JANIRA
11-05-2008, 06:11 AM
IF THERE WAS ANY WAY I COULD DISCRIBE HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW ................. IM CRYING MY EYES OUT, OF JOY, !!!!!



MLK,, HAD A DREAM, ........AND IT FINALLY CAME TRUE!!!!


BARACK OBAMA THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES!!!!!!


GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!

Quiet Reflections
11-05-2008, 06:12 AM
There are riots and gunshots where I live.

It looks more like downtown fallujah where i live.

God help us all
where is that?

Coroner
11-05-2008, 06:14 AM
Congratulations! I´m glad he won.

Oli
11-05-2008, 06:15 AM
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —

America has finally fulfilled its lofty ambitions. We live in a great time.

Congratulations to President Obama!

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
11-05-2008, 06:15 AM
Party Time

praetor
11-05-2008, 06:15 AM
CONGRATULATIONS NORTH AMERICAN FRIENDS....OBAMA PRESIDENT

Hara_Juku Tgirl
11-05-2008, 06:15 AM
300 plus..It's a landslide!!! Yay!!

~Kisses.

HTG

Fox
11-05-2008, 06:15 AM
I never thought I'd live to see the day. Perhaps my children and grandchildren...

WHOOOOO!!!!!

TomSelis
11-05-2008, 06:16 AM
Yeeeeeaaaah boyyyyeee!

:claps

Quiet Reflections
11-05-2008, 06:18 AM
this is proof that we as black men can do anything we set our mind to

Legend
11-05-2008, 06:19 AM
WTF they are still booing obama.

Quiet Reflections
11-05-2008, 06:22 AM
this is proof that we as black men can do anything we set our mind to

It is proof that we as a nation can and are putting our painful history or racial animus behind us.
Also true

JANIRA
11-05-2008, 06:22 AM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL

Quiet Reflections
11-05-2008, 06:25 AM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL
Suit up Fellas

Quiet Reflections
11-05-2008, 06:26 AM
Would this be considered a landslide or just a mandate?

envivision
11-05-2008, 06:27 AM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL

How about a Biden mask?

Joe Biden= Dan Quayle for the next 4 years

Fox
11-05-2008, 06:27 AM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL

I'll be right over.

envivision
11-05-2008, 06:28 AM
Would this be considered a landslide or just a mandate?


NEITHER !

You need 60% of the vote for either.

We shall control the congress in 2010.

PatrickFromNYC
11-05-2008, 06:33 AM
If you think America is happy (Like me) the rest of the world is twice as happy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES

Legend
11-05-2008, 06:33 AM
Sean hannity must be blowing his brains out about now.

JANIRA
11-05-2008, 06:34 AM
potatoe?

Quiet Reflections
11-05-2008, 06:34 AM
Would this be considered a landslide or just a mandate?


NEITHER !

You need 60% of the vote for either.

We shall control the congress in 2010.
60%. That makes sense. i was just think that as close as some states were he didnt seemed like he was in trouble of losing

JanetElise
11-05-2008, 06:36 AM
I congratulate Mr Obama.

The people got what they wished for.

Now we will see what he is REALLY made of.

blckhaze
11-05-2008, 06:39 AM
my bottle of blue label is officially opened and half empty.
just mad my grandparents aint live to see this.

JonnyT
11-05-2008, 06:42 AM
as predicted:

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=39175&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

Currently Obama 333 McCain 156

this sends a real message and tonight i am proud to be an American :D

flabbybody
11-05-2008, 06:48 AM
my bottle of blue label is officially opened and half empty.
just mad my grandparents aint live to see this.

yea haze, there's a lot of people in heaven smiling right now
what a great moment for America

zerrrr
11-05-2008, 06:57 AM
never a more appropriate desktop

SexyCollegeGuy88
11-05-2008, 07:08 AM
KKK must be mad right now

icarus2112
11-05-2008, 07:12 AM
Right now I am the happiest I have ever been about an election outcome, and I voted Republican for a few state level candidates, so not really a hardcore democrat, but seeing Obama win is really the most excited I have been for any election that I can think of.

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 07:19 AM
What a speech!

Leader
11-05-2008, 07:21 AM
Greetings from Germany

A new chance for America and for the rest of the world

Felicia Katt
11-05-2008, 07:31 AM
that was a speech for the ages. Being at that park in Chicago was like being at Gettysberg. Amazing.

Yes we can

FK

Chicago Guy
11-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Sorry...I'm from IL and couldn't bring myself to support any politician from IL.

Chicago is the murder capital of the country
Cook County has the highest sales tax in the country
The entire states property taxes are skyrocketing
IL ranks at the bottom of the US in education

I love Barack as a person, and believe what he stands for, but with how poorly IL has been run...I cannot support them to run the USA. I hope I'm wrong...

PatrickFromNYC
11-05-2008, 07:36 AM
my bottle of blue label is officially opened and half empty.
just mad my grandparents aint live to see this.

yea haze, there's a lot of people in heaven smiling right now
what a great moment for America


Its definately a "blue label" day !!

PatrickFromNYC
11-05-2008, 07:44 AM
Sorry...I'm from IL and couldn't bring myself to support any politician from IL.

Chicago is the murder capital of the country
Cook County has the highest sales tax in the country
The entire states property taxes are skyrocketing
IL ranks at the bottom of the US in education

I love Barack as a person, and believe what he stands for, but with how poorly IL has been run...I cannot support them to run the USA. I hope I'm wrong...

An Historic day in the US and your taking about Cook county, Il ???

Your a definate downer pal

Chicago Guy
11-05-2008, 07:47 AM
Sorry...I'm from IL and couldn't bring myself to support any politician from IL.

Chicago is the murder capital of the country
Cook County has the highest sales tax in the country
The entire states property taxes are skyrocketing
IL ranks at the bottom of the US in education

I love Barack as a person, and believe what he stands for, but with how poorly IL has been run...I cannot support them to run the USA. I hope I'm wrong...

An Historic day in the US and your taking about Cook county, Il ???

Your a definate downer palCook County IL is Chicago and the surrounding areas. People that Obama is close friends with and endorses, run cook county. I don't mean to be a downer, jus saying he hasn't done anything for IL so I couldn't bring myself to vote for him.

PatrickFromNYC
11-05-2008, 07:59 AM
Sorry...I'm from IL and couldn't bring myself to support any politician from IL.

Chicago is the murder capital of the country
Cook County has the highest sales tax in the country
The entire states property taxes are skyrocketing
IL ranks at the bottom of the US in education

I love Barack as a person, and believe what he stands for, but with how poorly IL has been run...I cannot support them to run the USA. I hope I'm wrong...

An Historic day in the US and your taking about Cook county, Il ???

Your a definate downer palCook County IL is Chicago and the surrounding areas. People that Obama is close friends with and endorses, run cook county. I don't mean to be a downer, jus saying he hasn't done anything for IL so I couldn't bring myself to vote for him.


Well in my opinion Obama is an HUGE upgrade from the MORON who currently holds the office

Barnabis78
11-05-2008, 08:01 AM
It's a great day in American History.

Obama's speech was one for the ages. And McCain showed some real class and patriotism.

Looks like Prop 8 in Cali went down.

All and all some good shit happened tonight folks.

a994
11-05-2008, 08:05 AM
Hail to the new Chief. And props to McCain for his class which he showed in his speech and in quelling the misguided boos of some of his supporters.

I don't know about you, but it feels good to be an American once again. For the first time in eight years.

Willie Escalade
11-05-2008, 08:08 AM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL
Okay...I get on the 710 south to the 91 east...I take that to the 10 east...95 south...yup, I can make it before 11:00. :twisted:

Gh0strider
11-05-2008, 08:12 AM
* Witness to history

Thatiger23
11-05-2008, 08:13 AM
When the news came over CNN about OBAMA winning the election the entire break room at my job went into a celebration we all were late to work because WE had to vote for him....and to the chicago guy Chicago doesnt have the highest murder rate...PHILLY AKA CITY OF DEATH is the worst place to be in the USA....but who cares OBAMA IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT SO BUSH PACK YOU SHIT AND LEAVE

GroobySteven
11-05-2008, 08:17 AM
I predicted a landslide months ago but my heart has been in my mouth all day.

I'm not American but I have a lot of emotions and business invested in the USA - from a purely self-preservation standpoint, if McCain had won, they were going to go after the adult online industry (recorded statements by Palin & McCain).

Personally, this is a truly monumental occasion. In one day, the United States has regained it's respect to international onlookers and given themselves a direction to follow and a goal to work for. It's not only that he's black - or that he's young - it's that he's believable, he's calm and collected and he speaks to me. He's Presidential.

Congratulations to the USA.

seanchai

kink234
11-05-2008, 08:24 AM
This is a historic moment for me and everyone in this nation. I am so excited I cannot sleep.

PatrickFromNYC
11-05-2008, 08:24 AM
I predicted a landslide months ago but my heart has been in my mouth all day.

I'm not American but I have a lot of emotions and business invested in the USA - from a purely self-preservation standpoint, if McCain had won, they were going to go after the adult online industry (recorded statements by Palin & McCain).

Personally, this is a truly monumental occasion. In one day, the United States has regained it's respect to international onlookers and given themselves a direction to follow and a goal to work for. It's not only that he's black - or that he's young - it's that he's believable, he's calm and collected and he speaks to me. He's Presidential.

Congratulations to the USA.

Well said Seanchai..

seanchai

Fox
11-05-2008, 08:26 AM
This is a historic moment for me and everyone in this nation. I am so excited I cannot sleep.

Oh I'll be sleeping just fine tonight! :D

Thatiger23
11-05-2008, 08:31 AM
Not me Fox. I'm pumped man. I don't want to date myself, but when my folks came to the U.S. back in the day, lunch counters in southern cities were still segregated, forget about a black person voting in Alabama or Mississippi.



This is a historic moment for me and everyone in this nation. I am so excited I cannot sleep.

Oh I'll be sleeping just fine tonight! :D

WOW you are old as dirt.....lol just kidding...how are the streets of DC braveman?

whatsupwithat
11-05-2008, 08:42 AM
Yes. We did. Yes. We can. Yes. We will.

I am proud to be an American tonight.

Now I'm going to shed a few more tears of joy and then get some much needed sleep.

Love you all!! Yes!

:)

Dark32
11-05-2008, 08:47 AM
first time I was able to vote. Great time (besides the two hour line).

whatsupwithat
11-05-2008, 08:48 AM
I predicted a landslide months ago but my heart has been in my mouth all day.

I'm not American but I have a lot of emotions and business invested in the USA - from a purely self-preservation standpoint, if McCain had won, they were going to go after the adult online industry (recorded statements by Palin & McCain).

Personally, this is a truly monumental occasion. In one day, the United States has regained it's respect to international onlookers and given themselves a direction to follow and a goal to work for. It's not only that he's black - or that he's young - it's that he's believable, he's calm and collected and he speaks to me. He's Presidential.

Congratulations to the USA.

seanchai

Thank you, man! We did it!! :)

Justawannabe
11-05-2008, 08:49 AM
I couldn't get down to actually hear the speech in person... but it was good, not really great in my opinion, but very good.

I spent the last few days worrying we'd see another too close to call due to the way the states are laid out, I'm so relieved it's gone so strongly our way.

I may not be thrilled with the local government efforts, but I'd hardly blame Obama for that.

So, yay!... go Obama... celebrate your heart out, for tomorrow the work REALLY starts...

Sean

johnb
11-05-2008, 08:52 AM
the best example of "May the best man win" I've ever witnessed. My comment, "Fuckin a Tweetie Bird!"

BluegrassCat
11-05-2008, 09:00 AM
Would this be considered a landslide or just a mandate?


NEITHER !

You need 60% of the vote for either.

We shall control the congress in 2010.

338 electoral votes of 537 is 63% so it's a mandate and a landslide! And we control the congress this year. YAY!
:D

scroller
11-05-2008, 09:02 AM
Thumbs up, my friends. :D

DL_NL
11-05-2008, 09:02 AM
It is proof that we as a nation can and are putting our painful history or racial animus behind us.
...or at least enough of you.

Congrats! Nothing Jeb Bush can do about that this time...

DJ_Asia
11-05-2008, 09:24 AM
Congratulations to President Obama,and much respect for John McCain and the classy way he handled himself in his speech.

Although im skeptical of any major party nominee,I couldnt help but feel pride and most importantly HOPE for the US's future as I listened and watched Obama deliver his victory speech....hope is something we have all been missing for the last 8 dark years.

I hope Obama can live up to all the promises and aspirations his platform has made,and can further restore worldwide respect to the USA.

God bless America and President Obama.

lupinIII
11-05-2008, 09:26 AM
We danced like new year's eve, we danced from sheer relief, everything must change.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ3LH5cZ11s

lupinIII
11-05-2008, 09:36 AM
Congrats are in order for your country. Like my friends and I said, we have never had more hope for this world.

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 10:09 AM
Today I am more proud than EVER to be an American.

Tonight proves that you can be WHATEVER you dream of.
Today Americans made a wise choice for our country and for our standing abroad.

Tears ran down my face when I watched his acceptance speech.
I was a momentous and magical occassion,

Barack To The Future!!!

beatmaker
11-05-2008, 10:40 AM
Sorry...I'm from IL and couldn't bring myself to support any politician from IL.

Chicago is the murder capital of the country
Cook County has the highest sales tax in the country
The entire states property taxes are skyrocketing
IL ranks at the bottom of the US in education

I love Barack as a person, and believe what he stands for, but with how poorly IL has been run...I cannot support them to run the USA. I hope I'm wrong...

An Historic day in the US and your taking about Cook county, Il ???

Your a definate downer palCook County IL is Chicago and the surrounding areas. People that Obama is close friends with and endorses, run cook county. I don't mean to be a downer, jus saying he hasn't done anything for IL so I couldn't bring myself to vote for him.

Chicago Guy, the President is essentially the governor of the entire country. My point being, the responsibility to bring about real change in a city or state, belongs to the executive branch (mayors and governors). The legislative branch can only facilitate change by passing prudent laws and not being a piggybank for lobbyists and their agendas. Even with that, only the speaker of the House or Majority Leader can really lead on new legislation in that government body. Do you realize most of the issues you mentioned plagued Bill Clinton, when he was governor of Arkansas. The educational system was one of the worst in the United States at the time and poverty and crime were off the charts during his reign and he was the governor, not a Congressman or Senator. Yet, he still became one of the best Presidents of the last 50 years (personal weaknesses aside). Bill Clinton had the vision, charisma and work ethic to bring about change and I dare to say, Barack is even more potent in those areas than Clinton was. Even Reagan governed California at a time when gang violence and unemployment were rampant. He also served 8 years as President, when failing schools, crime, poverty and unemployment in rural, poor and minority communities ran rampant. However, "The haves" aka Wall Street made a mint under Reagan, so he's considered a godlike figure among Republicans. I'm not even 35 yet, but I don't remember poor folks thriving under Reagan, Bush Sr and Jr, as a youngster. The GOP's preoccupation with war, defense spending and tax breaks to the wealthy, will always mean the shaft to the poor and working class American citizen.

Barack Obama is looking to erect a new millenium "New Deal", in which former U.S President F.D.R brought prosperity to the economy by funding massive changes and upgrades to the American infrastructure. This strategy provided millions of jobs and vastly improved the quality of life in this country. Clean energy and the total revamping of the country's electric grid are two things Obama is looking into. Barack understands the cyclical nature of money. He know that people will spend more, when they make more. Versus the GOP's "well hire more people, if we pay less taxes" nonsense. Problem is, these greedy bastards take the tax breaks and still ship the jobs overseas, so they can increase profitability and earn larger bonuses.

daveskarety
11-05-2008, 11:14 AM
'Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss'

Obama? McCain? Both the same! I'm sorry but nothing will change for the better, as you will see as time goes by. Zbigniew Brzezinski is the real winner tonight, he can get on with his plans unhindered now...

GroobySteven
11-05-2008, 11:22 AM
'Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss'

Obama? McCain? Both the same! I'm sorry but nothing will change for the better, as you will see as time goes by. Zbigniew Brzezinski is the real winner tonight, he can get on with his plans unhindered now...

Thanks for your 4th post.

Thatiger23
11-05-2008, 11:42 AM
'Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss'

Obama? McCain? Both the same! I'm sorry but nothing will change for the better, as you will see as time goes by. Zbigniew Brzezinski is the real winner tonight, he can get on with his plans unhindered now...

what a fucking moron im sorry but if you think McCain and OBAMA are the same then you are a fucking moron...

ANYWAYS ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS BUSH IT OVER NOW SO GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cuchulain
11-05-2008, 12:03 PM
ANYWAYS ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS BUSH IT OVER NOW SO GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, not yet, bro. Ol' Dubya's gonna do all the damage he can before he slithers off into the night.

Anyway, here's a salute to America. HIP HIP HOORAY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG-Ng1f_xUk

chefmike
11-05-2008, 12:33 PM
A great night for America and the world!

Mugai_hentaisha
11-05-2008, 12:38 PM
Sorry...I'm from IL and couldn't bring myself to support any politician from IL.

Chicago is the murder capital of the country
Cook County has the highest sales tax in the country
The entire states property taxes are skyrocketing
IL ranks at the bottom of the US in education

I love Barack as a person, and believe what he stands for, but with how poorly IL has been run...I cannot support them to run the USA. I hope I'm wrong...

An Historic day in the US and your taking about Cook county, Il ???

Your a definate downer palCook County IL is Chicago and the surrounding areas. People that Obama is close friends with and endorses, run cook county. I don't mean to be a downer, jus saying he hasn't done anything for IL so I couldn't bring myself to vote for him.


Well in my opinion Obama is an HUGE upgrade from the MORON who currently holds the office

True but then again a 70 year old dead squirrel is a step up from that Moron

Congrats to Obama
lets see if he can do what he promised.....and that his voters will like him in the end.

TES
William

Crawler
11-05-2008, 01:18 PM
I voted against Bush every time and both times he slithered in like a snake from Hell, I was convinced he would run this country into the ground like every other endeavor he had comically undertaken in his life. Well, challenging times call for those that can meet those challenges. At last we have someone in the White House who is in for the content of his charcter, the righteousness of his spirit and the wonder of his vision. We have only begun to see what we as a truly unified nation are capable of. Be glad to be alive. It is morning in America.

longwave
11-05-2008, 01:20 PM
fuck yeahs!

<----- just woke up from drunk sleep.

dj4monie
11-05-2008, 01:35 PM
KKK must be mad right now

And Homeland Security, The NSA, CIA, FBI and ATF all know where they live, eat and work.... They even know what they had for breakfast...

dj4monie
11-05-2008, 01:40 PM
I cried... This is sooo important and the work has just started, go party ya'll we deserve it. However come back to work BRIGHT and EARLY on Nov 6th because he's got some Clinton-era people on his staff currently that we don't need to be apart of this Rebuilding of America.

Remember -

Larry Summers, Robert Rubin and Paul Volcker were all part of in the 90's what you now know is the Real Estate Bubble and Bust.

They don't belong anywhere NEAR the Federal Reserve Building.... Or the Tres. office.

Trans Mission
11-05-2008, 01:50 PM
Yay, socialism! America, you did fine. Tax my ass for making over 100 or is it 300 grand a year. Either way, I pay for the societal sloth americans have become.

Why don't we have pampers bill me directly.

LTR_Seeker
11-05-2008, 02:07 PM
Yay, socialism! America, you did fine. Tax my ass for making over 100 or is it 300 grand a year. Either way, I pay for the societal sloth americans have become.

Why don't we have pampers bill me directly. Yep whata way to reward hard labor welfare should be given the hook

ILuvGurls
11-05-2008, 02:51 PM
open your wallets folks.....the tax man he a coming!

JanetElise
11-05-2008, 03:12 PM
Oh yeah, are we allowed to start calling Obama "H" now?




ANYWAYS ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS BUSH IT OVER NOW SO GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, not yet, bro. Ol' Dubya's gonna do all the damage he can before he slithers off into the night.

Anyway, here's a salute to America. HIP HIP HOORAY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG-Ng1f_xUk

strokeitnow
11-05-2008, 03:17 PM
I Hope you all enjoyed the fucking you just got last night.

The only change Oboma is interested in is the change in your pockets!

Wait until the modern day robin hood starts taking your money and handing it out like candy to his friends who sit on their ass all day long.

This guy won't make it two years before even his liberal cronies turn on him. Remember Jimmy Carter?

melissacarter
11-05-2008, 03:42 PM
I can't wait till he takes all your muthafuckin money you whiners and complainers.

It was never yours to begin with!

Legend
11-05-2008, 03:53 PM
I think its naive that you morons start talking about how obama is going to raise taxes etc etc let him serve one day before you start making your tin foil hat assumptions.


@ILuvGurls we know what you think about obama you took something from his book out of context and assumed he was fighting for some kind of muslim agenda,you stated you wouldn't vote for obama becuase of that supposed muslim agenda now that he has won you start playing that he will tax you all game,geez stop f**king hating you guys had a chance to vote in mccain and you failed.

goldensamba
11-05-2008, 05:19 PM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL

I'm in! :)

goldensamba
11-05-2008, 05:22 PM
Sorry...I'm from IL and couldn't bring myself to support any politician from IL.

Chicago is the murder capital of the country
Cook County has the highest sales tax in the country
The entire states property taxes are skyrocketing
IL ranks at the bottom of the US in education

I love Barack as a person, and believe what he stands for, but with how poorly IL has been run...I cannot support them to run the USA. I hope I'm wrong...

Since he is a Senator he doesn't have much to do with how your stie or state are run. You need to take that up with your mayor and governor.

goldensamba
11-05-2008, 05:24 PM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL
Okay...I get on the 710 south to the 91 east...I take that to the 10 east...95 south...yup, I can make it before 11:00. :twisted:

You must live near me if that's your route. Let's carpool!

timxxx
11-05-2008, 06:19 PM
:claps Congratulations,America. :peanutbutter :rock2

BeardedOne
11-05-2008, 06:23 PM
:claps Congratulations,America. :peanutbutter :rock2

Some of them are transposed (Ike and Truman, for example), but I like the overall message of that poster. :D

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 06:40 PM
To all the bitter sore losers...

I guess you forgot to read the memo
Obama carries the election with 349 electoral college votes, the popular vote, and managed to turn solid, teaditional RED states BLUE. Not only did he win, BUT HE KICKED ASS, KNOCKED OUT, PUT AN ATOM BOMB kind of beat down on MacPalin and the Republican party.

As our NEW PRESIDENT ELECT said in his victory speech- he spoke of an all inclusive America- for the old, young, white, black, asian, hispanic, rich, poor, gay, straight, abled and disabled. THIS IS THE FACE OF AMERICA- not freaking Joe the plumber. It is CLEAR there us a change in this country-people who have been marginalized by the establishment are SICK OF IT.

A new time has come.
You can't cling to your outdated Republican rhetoric forever. You can't cling to your bible, guns, desire to wipe off freedoms, and legislate morality forever. You can't cling to your outdated idea of what America is socially and ethnically.

BARACK TO THE FUTURE!!!

tsluva
11-05-2008, 06:43 PM
OK,, ENOUGH WITH THE CRYING I WANNA GET GANGBANGED BY GUYS WEARING OBAMA MASKS....ANYONE?..LOL

Yeeeees!! , i'll even include my shirt, button pins and hats
for an wonderful, open opportunity like that.

tsluva
11-05-2008, 06:47 PM
IF THERE WAS ANY WAY I COULD DISCRIBE HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW ................. IM CRYING MY EYES OUT, OF JOY, !!!!!



MLK,, HAD A DREAM, ........AND IT FINALLY CAME TRUE!!!!


BARACK OBAMA THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES!!!!!!


GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!

It's all good, sweetie. i cried right there along with you as well.

"YES WE CAN " ..........

melissacarter
11-05-2008, 07:16 PM
To all the bitter sore losers...

I guess you forgot to read the memo
Obama carries the election with 349 electoral college votes, the popular vote, and managed to turn solid, teaditional RED states BLUE. Not only did he win, BUT HE KICKED ASS, KNOCKED OUT, PUT AN ATOM BOMB kind of beat down on MacPalin and the Republican party.

As our NEW PRESIDENT ELECT said in his victory speech- he spoke of an all inclusive America- for the old, young, white, black, asian, hispanic, rich, poor, gay, straight, abled and disabled. THIS IS THE FACE OF AMERICA- not freaking Joe the plumber. It is CLEAR there us a change in this country-people who have been marginalized by the establishment are SICK OF IT.

A new time has come.
You can't cling to your outdated Republican rhetoric forever. You can't cling to your bible, guns, desire to wipe off freedoms, and legislate morality forever. You can't cling to your outdated idea of what America is socially and ethnically.

BARACK TO THE FUTURE!!!

Nicely said, Allanah

BeardedOne
11-05-2008, 07:19 PM
he's reached 297

Wednesday, November 5, 2008:

Obama: 349

McCain: 148

Prop 8 (CA) tightly contested but likely to fall. Florida's 102 passes.

Biden wins DE Senate. Appointment of successor reliant on the timing of Biden's resignation as relates to the inauguration of Governor-elect Markel.

Due to a change in election rules that passed the DE General Assembly, requiring write-in candidates to file an application of intent with the Elections Commission, I am now permanently safe from being drafted into the governor's position. :)

doctranny07
11-05-2008, 08:00 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Legend
11-05-2008, 08:06 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!


He is the first african american to become president that is something worth jumping for joy over.Your bitterness and hatred cannot and won't ruin the moment.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:12 PM
this is proof that we as black men can do anything we set our mind to

as long as they are raised by white families of course.

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 08:13 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:15 PM
oh my favorite part of his speech was "the disabled and the not disabled" you can't forget to include that all important not disabled constituency in your PC listing.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:16 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 08:20 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 08:26 PM
Yay, socialism! America, you did fine. Tax my ass for making over 100 or is it 300 grand a year. Either way, I pay for the societal sloth americans have become.

Why don't we have pampers bill me directly.

They already did.
Didnt you get the 700 billion dollar bill for the Wall Street bailout.
There all winners like you too.

GroobySteven
11-05-2008, 08:31 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Boo-hoo.

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 08:32 PM
I Hope you all enjoyed the fucking you just got last night.

The only change Oboma is interested in is the change in your pockets!

Wait until the modern day robin hood starts taking your money and handing it out like candy to his friends who sit on their ass all day long.

This guy won't make it two years before even his liberal cronies turn on him. Remember Jimmy Carter?

Because of your buddy SCRUB and his mismanagement of the economy your worth a lot less than you were in 2000.
Youve been getting fucked DAILY for the last 8 years.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:38 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 08:39 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Your already in a mess.
Im so sick of stupid guys like you who excuse EVERY mistake bush makes.
Many people are LOSING their homes right now and its because of the deregulation policies of shrub!
Let talk about gas.
The ONLY reason gas got as high as it did is because wall street traders(traitors) screws us.
Im sure most of them are liberal.
This is why I dont feel sorry for people.
My ex boss at my job(I was laid off 2 weeks ago) has lost a TON of money.
She is a STANFORD graduate.

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 08:43 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

I asked a valid question. I am 33 years old , Cuban by birth, American by citezenship.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:43 PM
Aw, do you have a camera? Take a pic of your tears and post it here. LOL. Don't be angry at Obama, be angry with the GOP.

I'm not angry at Obama I think it's great that a black guy is president, but I think both parties are evil and Obama is definitely not good for the economy and national security. Time will tell, but you Obama zombies can go ahead and gloat now, enjoy your moment, it will come crashing down under the harsh realities he will face as president. We've had no good choices for pres since Clinton.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:45 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 08:46 PM
Hey
I would like to congradulate ALL the non-racist whites who voted for Obama WITHOUT YOU THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
This is proof positive that America has advanced.....somewhat.
To all you filthy racists....New Yorker magazine,Wall Street Journal editorial page,fox news,O'reilly,hannity,Michael savage,Jesse Jackson(yeah him too)
SOME close minded jews and Some of the people at that McCain rally.....FUCK YOU!

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 08:47 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

Pretty much......

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:48 PM
Hey
I would like to congradulate ALL the non-racist whites who voted for Obama WITHOUT YOU THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
This is proof positive that America has advanced.....somewhat.
To all you filthy racists....New Yorker magazine,Wall Street Journal editorial page,fox news,O'reilly,hannity,Michael savage,Jesse Jackson(yeah him too)
SOME close minded jews and Some of the people at that McCain rally.....FUCK YOU!

Yeah all you filthy racists who didn't vote for obama go fuck yourselves!

Legend
11-05-2008, 08:48 PM
This thread is becoming a downer,the guy hasn't done shit in office and you already have all the tin foil hat wearing loons talking shit.The guy is the first african american president ever that is a big deal regardless of your politics.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:50 PM
you miss the point, yes he's black, that's great, but he's still gonna suck as president. Win for black, loss for americans.

doctranny07
11-05-2008, 08:51 PM
People are struggling to pay their mortgages because they did not read the fine print on the mortgage. These people should have never been allowed to purchase a home they knew damn well they could not afford. I saw one woman who makes 37K a year and bought a house worth 700K with no money down. Simple math can tell you that she does not make enough money to purchase that house. She did and now she is struggling to keep it. Why should I help her out of the mess she got herself into. You can blame Bush and rebus all you want. This mortgage mess was started by CLINTON and his stupid fannie mae and freddie mac friends by lowering the standards for people to get credit. Obama talked a good game and know it's time to produce. I can guarantee the country will be no better off with him as president as a matter of fact we will be worse off because he will definetely raise EVERYONES TAXES to pay for social entitlement programs and bigger government. Bullshit progams that just give people money for doing absolutely nothing but sit on their asses watching Jerry Springer collecting welfare. How about going to school and making something of yourself and stop waiting for a handout. I struggled for many years driving a taxi in NYC to put myself thought college and then drove a limo to put myself though medical school while raising a family. I put myself in debt to the tune of 200K to pay fopr medical school and now pay a small mortgage to pay my student loans back. It gets me really angry that people think that I should share my sweat and hard work and be patriotic and pay more taxes for what. For social programs that [eople seem to think that they are entitled to. Plenty of people come here and speak no english and put themselves through school and make something of themselves withpout relying on the government to bail them out. How about getting a JOB. There are plenty of jobs out there, the newspaper is full of them. Stop thinking that the goverment owes you something. They owe you nothing.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 08:52 PM
Yeah thanks to all the white college kids who never had a real job and hate their parents for being successful

Floyd R
11-05-2008, 08:53 PM
Wow, I am feeled with joy over Obama winning. This is a a sign that our nation has moved forward towards making Martin Luther King's "I Had Dream" speech a reality.

doctranny07
11-05-2008, 08:55 PM
We are racist because we did not vote for Obama? Get a life and stop waiting for the government check it's not in the mail.

Legend
11-05-2008, 08:56 PM
you miss the point, yes he's black, that's great, but he's still gonna suck as president. Win for black, loss for americans.

Not just a win for african americans but for everyone .You mention in a post that time will tell well give him time before you judge him.

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 08:57 PM
People are struggling to pay their mortgages because they did not read the fine print on the mortgage. These people should have never been allowed to purchase a home they knew damn well they could not afford. I saw one woman who makes 37K a year and bought a house worth 700K with no money down. Simple math can tell you that she does not make enough money to purchase that house. She did and now she is struggling to keep it. Why should I help her out of the mess she got herself into. You can blame Bush and rebus all you want. This mortgage mess was started by CLINTON and his stupid fannie mae and freddie mac friends by lowering the standards for people to get credit. Obama talked a good game and know it's time to produce. I can guarantee the country will be no better off with him as president as a matter of fact we will be worse off because he will definetely raise EVERYONES TAXES to pay for social entitlement programs and bigger government. Bullshit progams that just give people money for doing absolutely nothing but sit on their asses watching Jerry Springer collecting welfare. How about going to school and making something of yourself and stop waiting for a handout. I struggled for many years driving a taxi in NYC to put myself thought college and then drove a limo to put myself though medical school while raising a family. I put myself in debt to the tune of 200K to pay fopr medical school and now pay a small mortgage to pay my student loans back. It gets me really angry that people think that I should share my sweat and hard work and be patriotic and pay more taxes for what. For social programs that [eople seem to think that they are entitled to. Plenty of people come here and speak no english and put themselves through school and make something of themselves withpout relying on the government to bail them out. How about getting a JOB. There are plenty of jobs out there, the newspaper is full of them. Stop thinking that the goverment owes you something. They owe you nothing.

I see your repeating the tired and FALSE talking points of the republlican party.
The mortgage CRISIS actually started in 2002 when wall street traders started packaging mortgage loans(debt) and reselling them over and over.
That debt was purchased by financial institutions the world over ESPECIALLY europe and japan and china which is why the bailout happened.
If people just lost their homes and loans institutions failed alone we would not be in the mess.
It is because they debt was repackage over and over in a unregulated market and sold abroad.
Thats why there is a WORLDWIDE recession right now.
Wall street singularly are responsible for this crisis.

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 09:05 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

I asked a simple question.
You chose not to answer it, that's fine.
I never called anyone a racist.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 09:06 PM
People are struggling to pay their mortgages because they did not read the fine print on the mortgage. These people should have never been allowed to purchase a home they knew damn well they could not afford. I saw one woman who makes 37K a year and bought a house worth 700K with no money down. Simple math can tell you that she does not make enough money to purchase that house. She did and now she is struggling to keep it. Why should I help her out of the mess she got herself into. You can blame Bush and rebus all you want. This mortgage mess was started by CLINTON and his stupid fannie mae and freddie mac friends by lowering the standards for people to get credit. Obama talked a good game and know it's time to produce. I can guarantee the country will be no better off with him as president as a matter of fact we will be worse off because he will definetely raise EVERYONES TAXES to pay for social entitlement programs and bigger government. Bullshit progams that just give people money for doing absolutely nothing but sit on their asses watching Jerry Springer collecting welfare. How about going to school and making something of yourself and stop waiting for a handout. I struggled for many years driving a taxi in NYC to put myself thought college and then drove a limo to put myself though medical school while raising a family. I put myself in debt to the tune of 200K to pay fopr medical school and now pay a small mortgage to pay my student loans back. It gets me really angry that people think that I should share my sweat and hard work and be patriotic and pay more taxes for what. For social programs that [eople seem to think that they are entitled to. Plenty of people come here and speak no english and put themselves through school and make something of themselves withpout relying on the government to bail them out. How about getting a JOB. There are plenty of jobs out there, the newspaper is full of them. Stop thinking that the goverment owes you something. They owe you nothing.

I see your repeating the tired and FALSE talking points of the republlican party.
The mortgage CRISIS actually started in 2002 when wall street traders started packaging mortgage loans and reselling them over and over.
Wall street singularly are responsible for this crisis.

ok brother, keep repeating the tired and false talking points of the DNC. You can't really blame any one person or group for the failings of our economy. There were so many people along the way who could have tried to stop it, this has been decades in the making and was set up before bush was even in office. Both parties, as well as greedy business interests are to blame. It just happened to fall during the election, so all of the sudden obama's campaign switched it focus from $5 gas to the economy. Notice how no one even mentioned the price of gas once the economy started to tumble. Obama really won through a good campaign and manipulating people w/unprecedented amounts of money. Republicans almost had no chance of winning this year cause of Bush's unpopularity. America as a whole probably isn't too enthusiastic about obama, after all only 60 million out of 300 million+ citizens even voted for him. Obama is such a far left candidate that I doubt he could win in any other climate besides this one.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 09:08 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

I asked a simple question.
You chose not to answer it, that's fine.
I never called anyone a racist.

Ok Allanah, I am 29 of Indian descent, born and raised in America. No you didn't call anyone a racist but I did call you one, because you are, just face it.

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 09:09 PM
People are struggling to pay their mortgages because they did not read the fine print on the mortgage. These people should have never been allowed to purchase a home they knew damn well they could not afford. I saw one woman who makes 37K a year and bought a house worth 700K with no money down. Simple math can tell you that she does not make enough money to purchase that house. She did and now she is struggling to keep it. Why should I help her out of the mess she got herself into. You can blame Bush and rebus all you want. This mortgage mess was started by CLINTON and his stupid fannie mae and freddie mac friends by lowering the standards for people to get credit. Obama talked a good game and know it's time to produce. I can guarantee the country will be no better off with him as president as a matter of fact we will be worse off because he will definetely raise EVERYONES TAXES to pay for social entitlement programs and bigger government. Bullshit progams that just give people money for doing absolutely nothing but sit on their asses watching Jerry Springer collecting welfare. How about going to school and making something of yourself and stop waiting for a handout. I struggled for many years driving a taxi in NYC to put myself thought college and then drove a limo to put myself though medical school while raising a family. I put myself in debt to the tune of 200K to pay fopr medical school and now pay a small mortgage to pay my student loans back. It gets me really angry that people think that I should share my sweat and hard work and be patriotic and pay more taxes for what. For social programs that [eople seem to think that they are entitled to. Plenty of people come here and speak no english and put themselves through school and make something of themselves withpout relying on the government to bail them out. How about getting a JOB. There are plenty of jobs out there, the newspaper is full of them. Stop thinking that the goverment owes you something. They owe you nothing.

I see your repeating the tired and FALSE talking points of the republlican party.
The mortgage CRISIS actually started in 2002 when wall street traders started packaging mortgage loans and reselling them over and over.
Wall street singularly are responsible for this crisis.

ok brother, keep repeating the tired and false talking points of the DNC. You can't really blame any one person or group for the failings of our economy. There were so many people along the way who could have tried to stop it, this has been decades in the making and was set up before bush was even in office. Both parties, as well as greedy business interests are to blame. It just happened to fall during the election, so all of the sudden obama's campaign switched it focus from $5 gas to the economy. Notice how no one even mentioned the price of gas once the economy started to tumble. Obama really won through a good campaign and manipulating people w/unprecedented amounts of money. Republicans almost had no chance of winning this year cause of Bush's unpopularity. America as a whole probably isn't too enthusiastic about obama, after all only 60 million out of 300 million+ citizens even voted for him. Obama is such a far left candidate that I doubt he could win in any other climate besides this one.

You give no facts just opinions that arent based in ANY facts at all.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 09:09 PM
uh, you didn't give any facts either, nice try though.

Solitary Brother
11-05-2008, 09:11 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

I asked a simple question.
You chose not to answer it, that's fine.
I never called anyone a racist.

Ok Allanah, I am 29 of Indian descent, born and raised in America. No you didn't call anyone a racist but I did call you one, because you are, just face it.

Please dont make me go off on the graft and corruption in India.
India is the epitome' of "you watch my back Ill watch yours".

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 09:16 PM
Yes India sucks, that's why my parents moved here 30 years ago, do you think that by insulting my native land you insult me? Not really I'm an american, but while we're at it, lol@ africa, and I mean the entire continent. India is a resort compared to that cesspool.

Legend
11-05-2008, 09:18 PM
dick or gtfo

Someone give this guy a dick so he can STFU.

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 09:19 PM
yeah there's only room for one opinion on this board

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 09:21 PM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

I asked a simple question.
You chose not to answer it, that's fine.
I never called anyone a racist.

Ok Allanah, I am 29 of Indian descent, born and raised in America. No you didn't call anyone a racist but I did call you one, because you are, just face it.

LOL. So you don't know me and you call me a racist?
Please give me a good example of when I have ever made a racist remark.

I really don't have to defend myself to some internet troll you calls me a racist and has no idea who I am personally. If anything, I have always been outspoken of my opinions.

ANd who am I supposed to be racist to exactly it?
White people?

LOL what a fucking joke.

Nikka
11-05-2008, 09:23 PM
the change is here!

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 09:26 PM
why you are racist:

In our discussion of this topic, you asked if I was white. You automatically assumed because of my thought process I must be white. This is racist.

Even questioning what my race is, or being concerned about it, is racist. After all we're having a discussion here, what does my race matter? Why even bother to ask the question? What does my race have to do with anything we're discussing?

Legend
11-05-2008, 09:27 PM
a dick is a dick at the end of the day, even if its owner has fake boobs

doctranny07
11-05-2008, 09:28 PM
The wall street brokers starting packaging these sub prime mortgages beacause everyone and their mother was getting the sub prime mortgages. Once again a Clinton doing, he also deregulated the rules governing these securities. The reason that these companies like AIG, Bear Stearns etc.. went out of business is because people were able to buy insurance against these sub prime mortagages because they knew they would fail and people could not pay them back. When the people started to foreclose on their mortagages these companies did not have the money to pay the people who bought the insurance. So get your facts straight before you make any statements.

harlemzfinest
11-05-2008, 09:29 PM
Allanah, don't let some sore losers dampen your spirit. Yesterday was an amazing day in this country as we saw this nation neglect the attempts at cheap politics and focused on the issues. I am trully proud to be an American!

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 09:33 PM
Allanah, don't let some sore losers dampen your spirit. Yesterday was an amazing day in this country as we saw this nation neglect the attempts at cheap politics and focused on the issues. I am trully proud to be an American!

Exactlly!

Efrain just sent me this, and this is pretty amazing:

40 Years Ago Robert F.
Kennedy Predicted A Black Man Would Be President By 2008

Things are 'moving so fast in race relations a Negro could be president in 40 Years' ( This is in 1968, its 2008 Now) 'There is no question about it' the attorney general said ' In the next 40 years a Negro can achieve the same position that my brother has'....Kennedy said that prejudice exists and probably will continue to....' But we have tried to make progress and we are making progress. We are not going to accept the satus quo.
'

-Robert F. Kennedy, Washington Post, May 27, 1968.

Buzz
11-05-2008, 09:36 PM
Good grief. I checked this thread this morning and found it joyous and hopeful but was too exhausted to reply. Now I check it again and the thread has descended into the usual acrimony that you find in the political forum elsewhere on this site. I hope this is not an indication of how the country as a whole will be over the next 4 years.

Like many here and all around the world, I too was moved to tears by what happened yesterday. Somebody more eloquent than me wrote this last night:

AND THEY WEPT

History will record this as the night the souls of black folk, living and dead, wept – and laughed, screamed and danced – releasing 400 years of pent up emotion.

They were the souls of those whose bodies littered the bottom of the Atlantic, whose families were torn asunder, whose names were erased.

They were those who knew the terror of being set upon by men with clubs, of being trapped in a torched house, of dangling at the end of a rough rope.

They were the souls of those who knew the humiliation of another person’s spit trailing down their faces, of being treated like children well into their twilight years, of being derided and despised for the beauty God gave them.

They were also the tears of those for whom “Yes We Can, ” Obama’s campaign slogan, took on a broader, more profound meaning.

“Yes We Can” escape the prison of lowered expectations and the cycles of poor choices. “Yes We Can” rise above history and beyond hatred. “Yes We Can” ascend to Martin Luther King’s mountain top and see the promised land where dreams are fulfilled, where the best man wins and where justice prevails.

During this election African-Americans, their hearts weary from disappointment, dared to hope and dream again. Tonight their dream has been realized.

Whether or not you agree with Barack Obama’s politics, there is no denying that his election represents a seminal moment in the African-American narrative and a giant leap forward on the road to America’s racial reconciliation.

In fact everyone, regardless of race, should feel free to shed a tear and be proud of how far our country has come.

(Charles M. Blow, NY Times)
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/blow/aug/cryingpic.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/blow/aug/Votes-Reax.jpg

tsntx
11-05-2008, 09:40 PM
mr show makes a valid point

but lets move on


put this topic in politics already

JANIRA
11-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Opinions, Opinions,, we have have them !

Can't we just put all the shit , and animosity aside and embrass that a change has happend , a new begining . Sure he might / might not be the one to fix all of our much need problems that were brought on by the past shit we americans have endured, even if he does some small changes it's better than what we have had these past dark 8 years , but c'mon folks in this day and age we have to realize that change is good, IT'S NOT A OVER NIGHT PROCESS, we as americans are all eager to start moving up and see some progress but from all the suffercation we as americans have been through you have to admit weather you voted for Obama or not......It is a breath of fresh air!

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 09:48 PM
Good points. There a blacks, Hispanics, Asians who did not vote for Obama. Can we call a truce on this?


why you are racist:

In our discussion of this topic, you asked if I was white. You automatically assumed because of my thought process I must be white. This is racist.

Even questioning what my race is, or being concerned about it, is racist. After all we're having a discussion here, what does my race matter? Why even bother to ask the question? What does my race have to do with anything we're discussing?

Darling, I will not spend another minute refuting that ridiculous claim. o if that be a truce-finr by me.
Race has a lot to do with what we are discussing. Anyone who denies that
is simply out of touch. I was simply trying to identify his demographic.
I did not ASSUME anything, I ASKED.

Moving on.

natina
11-05-2008, 09:49 PM
Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA

http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000

http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000


the benefits of denying your black ancestry in a movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imitation_of_Life_(1959_film)

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/200


https://www.diversityinc.com/public/images/sixblackposter.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/Imitation_of_Life_1959_poster.jpg/215px-Imitation_of_Life_1959_poster.jpg
http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/6thbackpreas1.jpg

AllanahStarrNYC
11-05-2008, 09:49 PM
Good grief. I checked this thread this morning and found it joyous and hopeful but was too exhausted to reply. Now I check it again and the thread has descended into the usual acrimony that you find in the political forum elsewhere on this site. I hope this is not an indication of how the country as a whole will be over the next 4 years.

Like many here and all around the world, I too was moved to tears by what happened yesterday. Somebody more eloquent than me wrote this last night:

AND THEY WEPT

History will record this as the night the souls of black folk, living and dead, wept – and laughed, screamed and danced – releasing 400 years of pent up emotion.

They were the souls of those whose bodies littered the bottom of the Atlantic, whose families were torn asunder, whose names were erased.

They were those who knew the terror of being set upon by men with clubs, of being trapped in a torched house, of dangling at the end of a rough rope.

They were the souls of those who knew the humiliation of another person’s spit trailing down their faces, of being treated like children well into their twilight years, of being derided and despised for the beauty God gave them.

They were also the tears of those for whom “Yes We Can, ” Obama’s campaign slogan, took on a broader, more profound meaning.

“Yes We Can” escape the prison of lowered expectations and the cycles of poor choices. “Yes We Can” rise above history and beyond hatred. “Yes We Can” ascend to Martin Luther King’s mountain top and see the promised land where dreams are fulfilled, where the best man wins and where justice prevails.

During this election African-Americans, their hearts weary from disappointment, dared to hope and dream again. Tonight their dream has been realized.

Whether or not you agree with Barack Obama’s politics, there is no denying that his election represents a seminal moment in the African-American narrative and a giant leap forward on the road to America’s racial reconciliation.

In fact everyone, regardless of race, should feel free to shed a tear and be proud of how far our country has come.

(Charles M. Blow, NY Times)
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/blow/aug/cryingpic.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/blow/aug/Votes-Reax.jpg

Better than I have read it anywhere...

MrsKellyPierce
11-05-2008, 09:50 PM
I can't wait till Jan!! Good bye the Bush administration!!! AMEN!!!

MrShow52
11-05-2008, 09:51 PM
I think it's not fair just to assume because someone is white, black, brown, rich, poor, male, female, gay, straight, etc. they will vote a certain way. There are plenty of old white people who voted for obama, he couldn't have won without white people voting for him. This is a big problem with america's political system, we dehumanize each other into segments, statistics, demographics, instead of realizing that every person has a voice and an opinion of their own. There are no red states or blue states, regardless of how they swing in the election, there will be a wide variety of people voting for a wide variety of issues and candidates. People on this board only continue to push this divisive message of us vs. whitey, that only a white male could be conservative, and that anyone else must be liberal. If you really want hope, change, etc. a better future, you have to stop bagging on each other because of who they are, because they don't agree with you. Clinton said it best, you don't have to hate the other side just because they don't agree with you.

Alyssa87
11-05-2008, 10:06 PM
I’m beginning to feel the same sort of smugness that Dubya and his supporters have felt over the years.
Criticisms of Obama, liberals, and poor Americans (magically) don’t bother me now.
It used get under my skin so much.
Not only am I unbothered, but it makes me giggle inside.
My man is on his way to the White House, no matter the hate you have for him.


Young, gorgeous, and going places. With a black, liberal president. LIFE IS GOOD 8)

Legend
11-05-2008, 10:07 PM
blah blah blah

You went from saying obama will suck in office even though he hasn't even step in the white house to something else you are the person who needs to stop bagging on obama and actually give the guy a chance to prove himself.

lahabra1976
11-05-2008, 10:25 PM
I can't wait till Jan!! Good bye the Bush administration!!! AMEN!!!

You are right, who are going to make fun of now :(

melissacarter
11-05-2008, 10:44 PM
Good grief. I checked this thread this morning and found it joyous and hopeful but was too exhausted to reply. Now I check it again and the thread has descended into the usual acrimony that you find in the political forum elsewhere on this site. I hope this is not an indication of how the country as a whole will be over the next 4 years.

It's an indication of what you can expect on this site. Why would anyone be surprised that a thread of this nature would degenrate into name calling and personal attacks? Its HA, the asshole factor here is 99%.

tsntx
11-05-2008, 11:13 PM
ha @ mc

yodajazz
11-05-2008, 11:16 PM
The wall street brokers starting packaging these sub prime mortgages beacause everyone and their mother was getting the sub prime mortgages. Once again a Clinton doing, he also deregulated the rules governing these securities. The reason that these companies like AIG, Bear Stearns etc.. went out of business is because people were able to buy insurance against these sub prime mortagages because they knew they would fail and people could not pay them back. When the people started to foreclose on their mortagages these companies did not have the money to pay the people who bought the insurance. So get your facts straight before you make any statements.

Just a quick fact check. Clinton signed the bill that deregulated the securites in December of 2000, right at the end of his term. It has passsed the Senate by something like 92-8 and thus they could have over-ridden a veto anyway. It also passed the House with a large veto over-rding majority. An article I read put the responsibilty for that part of the bill directly on Republican Phil Graham. At one time he was McCains chief financial advisor, but quit in the summertime. His remark that "America has become a nation of whiners", was widely circulated before he left the McCain campaign. Obama quoted that directly in his speech when he accepted the party presidential nomination in Denver.

But anyway the article said that Graham place the deregulation bill at the end of an 1,100 page appropriations bill, and that it was close to the holidays and representitives did not have time to examine the bill closely.

Deregulation of financial markets has been part of the Republican philosophy for a long time, as well as others like Alan Greenspan. So to put the responsibility on Clinton is misleading.

Here is the source article: http://artvoice.com/issues/v7n40/crude

trannypir8
11-05-2008, 11:17 PM
Congrats, hope everyone is happy.

yodajazz
11-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Had it pretty good under Bush? I take it your a CEO? Why do you hate democracy? "Being afraid" was the credo of the Republican party. It was their main tool keep power, but people didn't want more fear. I have a book for you to read. It's called the Bible. It says things like, "Perfect love casts out all fear."

natina
11-05-2008, 11:59 PM
Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA

http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000

http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000


the benefits of denying your black ancestry in a movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imitation_of_Life_(1959_film)

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/200


https://www.diversityinc.com/public/images/sixblackposter.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/Imitation_of_Life_1959_poster.jpg/215px-Imitation_of_Life_1959_poster.jpg
http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/6thbackpreas1.jpg

trannypir8
11-06-2008, 12:02 AM
Actually, no, I lost my job in construction recently, but I'm just sick and tired of everyone always wanting something for nothing. BTW, I'm black, and 32 years old, so don't throw any of the "racist old white republican" crap my way, and why is he the "african american" candidate? He's got more of other races in him than he does black. I just hope all of you sheep who fell for the candidate who we know nothing about will enjoy the next four years. I've never been more ashamed to be an American than I am today.

GroobySteven
11-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Actually, no, I lost my job in construction recently, but I'm just sick and tired of everyone always wanting something for nothing. BTW, I'm black, and 32 years old, so don't throw any of the "racist old white republican" crap my way, and why is he the "african american" candidate? He's got more of other races in him than he does black. I just hope all of you sheep who fell for the candidate who we know nothing about will enjoy the next four years. I've never been more ashamed to be an American than I am today.

Fuck off.
This is the 2nd post you ever make on a tranny site?

Mods check this clown for either multiple names under the IP ... or just he cunt factor?

Nobody should be a post on a serious topic until they've asked for cock sizes or a "who is this" at least 5 times.

Legend
11-06-2008, 12:39 AM
This thread went from being freakin cool to a place for random bitter crybabies to vent,send it to the politics section so it can die a slow and painful death.

GroobySteven
11-06-2008, 12:42 AM
I'm black, and 32 years old, so don't throw any of the "racist old white republican"

Ok, racist, young (and dumb). Better?

NYBURBS
11-06-2008, 12:47 AM
Nobody should be a post on a serious topic until they've asked for cock sizes or a "who is this" at least 5 times.

LOL, but in fairness I don't think I've ever posted in either type of thread :wink: Nevertheless that was a priceless quote. I think I have my next sig quote.

GroobySteven
11-06-2008, 12:51 AM
Would have been better if I'd at least got the grammer right :-(

Dim01
11-06-2008, 01:29 AM
well i'm happy that the new president of the world is Obama! thanks

Jasadin
11-06-2008, 01:42 AM
this 56 second sort of represent they way I feel right now.

TEARS FOR OBAMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iz9I22-0ZE

I mean what else can I say.

keepingitreal470
11-06-2008, 01:49 AM
you miss the point, yes he's black, that's great, but he's still gonna suck as president. Win for black, loss for americans.Mr show, I dont have time to read all of your negative bullshit. I'll just say this. If you're soooo unhappy with Obama GET THE FUCK OUTTA THE COUNTRY DAMMITT!!!!!!!!!

BlkJewels
11-06-2008, 02:03 AM
I am so proud. Just so so so proud..............

strokeitnow
11-06-2008, 02:08 AM
I am really amazed at how naive all of the Oboma supporters on this board really are. Further more the fact that some of us do not approve of Oboma don't be fooled into thinking that we support Bush, the Repbulican party or in any way associated with the religious right. Barrack is in way over his head and you will soon see the rest of the world test him over and over again. We really won't know just how dangerous he is until it is way too late. For the rest of you folks who don't seem to care about Barrack taking more of your money I am fine with that but don't criticize me for not wanting to part with more of the dollars I work my ass off for every day of my life. Wealth is accumulated in this country through hard work and perseverance not re-distribution. We all have the same opportunity to make it and people like Barrack are living testament. I hope all of you Oboma supporters are as quick to express your dissatisfaction with him as you have been with Bush.

trish
11-06-2008, 02:33 AM
Every Alaskan gets a cut of an oil company's profits, if that company is drawing oil from Alaska. This year each Alaskan got a check for over three grand. The receivers of those checks did nothing for that money, but turn a blind eye to the exploitation of their own state. That's redistribution.

I'm amazed at how naive all the libertarian ideologues on this board really are. (Though that last comment is irrelevant to my point, I threw it in to be as obnoxious as the libertarian ideologues are).

Instrumental
11-06-2008, 02:39 AM
I am really amazed at how naive all of the Oboma supporters on this board really are. Further more the fact that some of us do not approve of Oboma don't be fooled into thinking that we support Bush, the Repbulican party or in any way associated with the religious right. Barrack is in way over his head and you will soon see the rest of the world test him over and over again. We really won't know just how dangerous he is until it is way too late. For the rest of you folks who don't seem to care about Barrack taking more of your money I am fine with that but don't criticize me for not wanting to part with more of the dollars I work my ass off for every day of my life. Wealth is accumulated in this country through hard work and perseverance not re-distribution. We all have the same opportunity to make it and people like Barrack are living testament. I hope all of you Oboma supporters are as quick to express your dissatisfaction with him as you have been with Bush.

Oh so you make more than 250K a year? Oh and he's not redistributing wealth he's simply bringing back the tax cuts that existed during the Clinton era. The fact that you've managed to spell his name incorrectly at every single instance leads me to believe that your post as well as you yourself are a joke. None of us know whether or not he will be a good president so just sit tight, wait and see and in the meantime hope for the best.

Solitary Brother
11-06-2008, 02:41 AM
He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

I asked a simple question.
You chose not to answer it, that's fine.
I never called anyone a racist.

Ok Allanah, I am 29 of Indian descent, born and raised in America. No you didn't call anyone a racist but I did call you one, because you are, just face it.

Please dont make me go off on the graft and corruption in India.
India is the epitome' of "you watch my back Ill watch yours".

Yes but Im not bragging about it like you and ACTUALLY Im not from Africa.

Solitary Brother
11-06-2008, 02:42 AM
mr show makes a valid point

but lets move on


put this topic in politics already

You would say that coming from the most ignorant state in the union.

Solitary Brother
11-06-2008, 02:46 AM
The wall street brokers starting packaging these sub prime mortgages beacause everyone and their mother was getting the sub prime mortgages. Once again a Clinton doing, he also deregulated the rules governing these securities. The reason that these companies like AIG, Bear Stearns etc.. went out of business is because people were able to buy insurance against these sub prime mortagages because they knew they would fail and people could not pay them back. When the people started to foreclose on their mortagages these companies did not have the money to pay the people who bought the insurance. So get your facts straight before you make any statements.

Just a quick fact check. Clinton signed the bill that deregulated the securites in December of 2000, right at the end of his term. It has passsed the Senate by something like 92-8 and thus they could have over-ridden a veto anyway. It also passed the House with a large veto over-rding majority. An article I read put the responsibilty for that part of the bill directly on Republican Phil Graham. At one time he was McCains chief financial advisor, but quit in the summertime. His remark that "America has become a nation of whiners", was widely circulated before he left the McCain campaign. Obama quoted that directly in his speech when he accepted the party presidential nomination in Denver.

But anyway the article said that Graham place the deregulation bill at the end of an 1,100 page appropriations bill, and that it was close to the holidays and representitives did not have time to examine the bill closely.

Deregulation of financial markets has been part of the Republican philosophy for a long time, as well as others like Alan Greenspan. So to put the responsibility on Clinton is misleading.

Here is the source article: http://artvoice.com/issues/v7n40/crude



Here is my proof from Wiki.
None other than ALAN GREENSPAN agrees with me on the cause of this mess.
Enjoy.



The traditional mortgage model involved a bank originating a loan to the borrower/homeowner and retaining credit (default) risk. With the advent of securitization, the traditional model has given way to the "originate to distribute" model, in which the credit risk is transferred (distributed) to investors through MBS. The securitized share of subprime mortgages (i.e., those passed to third-party investors via MBS) increased from 54% in 2001, to 75% in 2006.[51] Securitization accelerated in the mid-1990s. The total amount of mortgage-backed securities issued almost tripled between 1996 and 2007, to $7.3 trillion. The debt associated with the origination of such securities was sometimes placed by major banks into off-balance sheet entities called structured investment vehicles or special purpose entities. Moving the debt "off the books" enabled large financial institutions to circumvent capital reserve requirements, thereby assuming additional risk and increasing profits during the boom period. Such off-balance sheet financing is sometimes referred to as the shadow banking system and is thinly regulated.

Alan Greenspan stated that the securitization of home loans for people with poor credit — not the loans themselves — was to blame for the current global credit crisis.

cockgobbler
11-06-2008, 02:51 AM
Forgive my ignorance of the American political system, but what now happens to McCain and Palin?

Does McCain go back to being a senator representing Arizona and does Palin go back to being Governor of Alaska, or did they have to resign from their postitions in order to run for President and VP.

Legend
11-06-2008, 03:00 AM
I am really amazed at how naive all of the Oboma supporters on this board really are. Further more the fact that some of us do not approve of Oboma don't be fooled into thinking that we support Bush, the Repbulican party or in any way associated with the religious right. Barrack is in way over his head and you will soon see the rest of the world test him over and over again. We really won't know just how dangerous he is until it is way too late. For the rest of you folks who don't seem to care about Barrack taking more of your money I am fine with that but don't criticize me for not wanting to part with more of the dollars I work my ass off for every day of my life. Wealth is accumulated in this country through hard work and perseverance not re-distribution. We all have the same opportunity to make it and people like Barrack are living testament. I hope all of you Oboma supporters are as quick to express your dissatisfaction with him as you have been with Bush.



Who gives a shit if any of you tin foil hat wearing fools approves of him or not he is our president now so your going to have to deal with it and support him or STFU and move out of the country.Yeah i bet you are some hard worker just like that lieing piece of shit joe the plumber,don't have to worry i do not think obama will tax your precious escort or transsexual porn funds.

Legend
11-06-2008, 03:08 AM
The wall street brokers starting packaging these sub prime mortgages beacause everyone and their mother was getting the sub prime mortgages. Once again a Clinton doing, he also deregulated the rules governing these securities. The reason that these companies like AIG, Bear Stearns etc.. went out of business is because people were able to buy insurance against these sub prime mortagages because they knew they would fail and people could not pay them back. When the people started to foreclose on their mortagages these companies did not have the money to pay the people who bought the insurance. So get your facts straight before you make any statements.

Just a quick fact check. Clinton signed the bill that deregulated the securites in December of 2000, right at the end of his term. It has passsed the Senate by something like 92-8 and thus they could have over-ridden a veto anyway. It also passed the House with a large veto over-rding majority. An article I read put the responsibilty for that part of the bill directly on Republican Phil Graham. At one time he was McCains chief financial advisor, but quit in the summertime. His remark that "America has become a nation of whiners", was widely circulated before he left the McCain campaign. Obama quoted that directly in his speech when he accepted the party presidential nomination in Denver.

But anyway the article said that Graham place the deregulation bill at the end of an 1,100 page appropriations bill, and that it was close to the holidays and representitives did not have time to examine the bill closely.

Deregulation of financial markets has been part of the Republican philosophy for a long time, as well as others like Alan Greenspan. So to put the responsibility on Clinton is misleading.

Here is the source article: http://artvoice.com/issues/v7n40/crude



Here is my proof from Wiki.
None other than ALAN GREENSPAN agrees with me on the cause of this mess.
Enjoy.



The traditional mortgage model involved a bank originating a loan to the borrower/homeowner and retaining credit (default) risk. With the advent of securitization, the traditional model has given way to the "originate to distribute" model, in which the credit risk is transferred (distributed) to investors through MBS. The securitized share of subprime mortgages (i.e., those passed to third-party investors via MBS) increased from 54% in 2001, to 75% in 2006.[51] Securitization accelerated in the mid-1990s. The total amount of mortgage-backed securities issued almost tripled between 1996 and 2007, to $7.3 trillion. The debt associated with the origination of such securities was sometimes placed by major banks into off-balance sheet entities called structured investment vehicles or special purpose entities. Moving the debt "off the books" enabled large financial institutions to circumvent capital reserve requirements, thereby assuming additional risk and increasing profits during the boom period. Such off-balance sheet financing is sometimes referred to as the shadow banking system and is thinly regulated.

Alan Greenspan stated that the securitization of home loans for people with poor credit — not the loans themselves — was to blame for the current global credit crisis.


lol that is one of the guys who messed up us to begin with.

BluegrassCat
11-06-2008, 03:10 AM
ok brother, keep repeating the tired and false talking points of the DNC. You can't really blame any one person or group for the failings of our economy. There were so many people along the way who could have tried to stop it, this has been decades in the making and was set up before bush was even in office. Both parties, as well as greedy business interests are to blame. It just happened to fall during the election, so all of the sudden obama's campaign switched it focus from $5 gas to the economy. Notice how no one even mentioned the price of gas once the economy started to tumble. Obama really won through a good campaign and manipulating people w/unprecedented amounts of money. Republicans almost had no chance of winning this year cause of Bush's unpopularity. America as a whole probably isn't too enthusiastic about obama, after all only 60 million out of 300 million+ citizens even voted for him. Obama is such a far left candidate that I doubt he could win in any other climate besides this one.

Try 64 million of 169 million registered voters. Typical republican talking points claiming that children and non-citizens are eligible to vote. Far left? Give me a break: pro-death penalty, against gay marriage, religious, against universal health care. Despite how conservative he is, this is a triumph for America and the world.

trish
11-06-2008, 04:13 AM
To partially answer cockgobbler:

1) Palin is still governor of Alaska. If Stevens retains his senate seat, it's likely he will nevertheless be forced to resign for the kickbacks and bribes he was found guilty of accepting. As governor, Palin will get to appoint a new senator to replace Stevens. I'm guessing she will appoint herself. In the Senate she retain a share of the spotlight and further her already notorious career.

2. McCain, if he doesn't retire, will retain his seat on the Senate.

fitz207
11-06-2008, 05:04 AM
We are racist because we did not vote for Obama? Get a life and stop waiting for the government check it's not in the mail.
But it's ok for Corporations to wait for their welfare checks?

fitz207
11-06-2008, 05:11 AM
I am really amazed at how naive all of the Oboma supporters on this board really are. Further more the fact that some of us do not approve of Oboma don't be fooled into thinking that we support Bush, the Repbulican party or in any way associated with the religious right. Barrack is in way over his head and you will soon see the rest of the world test him over and over again. We really won't know just how dangerous he is until it is way too late. For the rest of you folks who don't seem to care about Barrack taking more of your money I am fine with that but don't criticize me for not wanting to part with more of the dollars I work my ass off for every day of my life. Wealth is accumulated in this country through hard work and perseverance not re-distribution. We all have the same opportunity to make it and people like Barrack are living testament. I hope all of you Oboma supporters are as quick to express your dissatisfaction with him as you have been with Bush.
What makes you think he'll do a bad job? The fact is the majority have spoken, They made a choice. Deal with it.

fitz207
11-06-2008, 05:16 AM
Actually, no, I lost my job in construction recently, but I'm just sick and tired of everyone always wanting something for nothing. BTW, I'm black, and 32 years old, so don't throw any of the "racist old white republican" crap my way, and why is he the "african american" candidate? He's got more of other races in him than he does black. I just hope all of you sheep who fell for the candidate who we know nothing about will enjoy the next four years. I've never been more ashamed to be an American than I am today.
African American my ass. Only 2 post? you're just a troll!

NYBURBS
11-06-2008, 06:40 AM
Who gives a shit if any of you tin foil hat wearing fools approves of him or not he is our president now so your going to have to deal with it and support him or STFU and move out of the country.Yeah i bet you are some hard worker just like that lieing piece of shit joe the plumber,don't have to worry i do not think obama will tax your precious escort or transsexual porn funds.

Oh yea that's pretty logical you fucking retard. The majority (at least the second time around) elected Bush yet tons of people did not support him. If 51% elected a Hilter type should I be forced to "support him or stfu and move out of the country"? Some of you Obama supporters are running around calling others ignorant, meanwhile you are posting some of the most ignorant comments I have ever read.

PS- I didn't vote for either major party candidate. On a state and local level I voted for a mix of 3rd party, Democrat and Republican, so spare me with any tinfoil or hater comments k thx.

PPS- Ron Paul 2012 :!:

El Nino
11-06-2008, 08:59 AM
Excellent points Burbs. Just when I thought the ignorance couldn't get any lower on this board, in walks legend with his literal crap and mental midgetry...

Legend
11-06-2008, 10:23 AM
Oh yea that's pretty logical you fucking retard. The majority (at least the second time around) elected Bush yet tons of people did not support him. If 51% elected a Hilter type should I be forced to "support him or stfu and move out of the country"? Some of you Obama supporters are running around calling others ignorant, meanwhile you are posting some of the most ignorant comments I have ever read.

PS- I didn't vote for either major party candidate. On a state and local level I voted for a mix of 3rd party, Democrat and Republican, so spare me with any tinfoil or hater comments k thx.

PPS- Ron Paul 2012 :!:


Wow that just shows the stupidity of all you ron paul nutjobs "hitler" give me a f**king break.My point is if you lunatics aren't even going to give him a chance to at least prove himself just STFU.Maybe if you ron paul freaks would cry and bitch less your guy wouldn't't be a f**king joke in every or primary and election he has been in.


Yeah 2012 my ass,ron paul doesn't have 2012 supporters.Hey paul will always win those pathetic worthless internet polls which he wins by all 12 of his supporters voting multiple times.I'm sick of you pathetic fags you've turn this thread into something that was cool into a place where you can bitch and whine.With that being said i'm done with you loons there is nothing you can do because barack Obama is president and ron paul is not and will never be.

trannypir8
11-06-2008, 02:24 PM
Call me a troll if you wish. I am a big fan of TG and I stumbled upon this site yesterday trying to cheer myself up. I guess I should have made some posts on other topics first, but this one was on the top of the list when I entered. I did not realize that there was protocol for which topics one could post to and when, so I apologize for upsetting your standards. I was hoping I'd find more likeminded people, however I see that I am in the minority here, so I'll keep the rest of my political opinions to myself.

strokeitnow
11-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Legend, why so much anger when your boy Oboma has just won? Wow, I suppose expressing an opinion you do not agree with is a capital offense. Forgive me please. As you all know time will tell who Oboma really is and what he can do. I am not optimistic but what the hell. Now back to your ranting. First of all I would be in favor of a tax on tranny escorts. Oboma could use that money to give to his I don't work for a living followers instead of taking mine. As for moving to another country, I think you might have something there. I was thinking Belgium would be nice I will send you a picture of my new home once I am settled.
Mr. Oboma must certainly be the smartest man in the U.S. the simple fact that he knows how to spend my money much more effectively than I could is a real testament to his true intellectual talent.

chefmike
11-06-2008, 04:12 PM
Boo fucking hoo...strokeitnow, tranpir8, doctrany07 and all the rest of the reactionary right that are here whining about the top few percent having to pay their fair share(instead of receiving even more loopholes and capitol gains tax cuts as they did under the GOP) need to go cry to Rush, Hannity or some other far right loon.
Listening to these clowns you would think the progressive tax system originated with President Clinton.

lahabra1976
11-06-2008, 07:52 PM
.My point is if you lunatics aren't even going to give him a chance to at least prove himself just STFU.Maybe

Yea I agree, I didn't support Obama, but the people have spoken and I am willing to give him a chance. Overall I think he will do an okay job, above average and restore some foreign communications. The hype around him is so much it seems like people think he will change everything, but 1 man simply cannot do that alone, it would take a world effort for that and many things beyond his control. And probably more than 2 terms of a presidency to do all that. My experience is when there is there much hype around 1 person, very rarely does the person live up to the hype. The greatest presidents are often those we didn't expect to do much.

whatsupwithat
11-06-2008, 08:26 PM
.My point is if you lunatics aren't even going to give him a chance to at least prove himself just STFU.Maybe

Yea I agree, I didn't support Obama, but the people have spoken and I am willing to give him a chance. Overall I think he will do an okay job, above average and restore some foreign communications. The hype around him is so much it seems like people think he will change everything, but 1 man simply cannot do that alone, it would take a world effort for that and many things beyond his control. And probably more than 2 terms of a presidency to do all that. My experience is when there is there much hype around 1 person, very rarely does the person live up to the hype. The greatest presidents are often those we didn't expect to do much.

Thank you.

You hit the nail on the head. It will take all of us. That's what is so beautiful. It's that hope that we all, together, can change the world, can make it a better place.

dbev
11-06-2008, 10:00 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY

daveskarety
11-06-2008, 11:56 PM
Zbigniew Brzezinski is the real winner tonight, he can get on with his plans unhindered now...

what a fucking moron im sorry but if you think McCain and OBAMA are the same then you are a fucking moron...

ANYWAYS ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS BUSH IT OVER NOW SO GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

HA-HA!! Yeh I'm a moron, do you even know who our new President, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is? Do you? Do you know what the 'Ford Foundation' is? The Council on Foreign Relations? The Tri-Lateral Commission? As I am merely a simple moron who thinks these guys are just the same puppets for their masters, I would appreciate you telling me, and the rest of us, just where Obama and McCain differ on just these three issues would you?

The Banker Bailout
The War in Iraq
The War on Drugs

So you think Bush controlled anything do you? You think Obama will change things for the better? Gimme a break! Are you aware of the phrase 'continuity of Government'? Are you aware that Condoleeza Rice, surely no friend of the Democrats, announced that we are to have a 'smooth transition' from Bush to Obama? And what is this 'Major International Crisis' Obama will face on Jan 21st/22nd (according to Biden, Powell and Albright) which is going to make him unpopular? They are even announcing the dates of their engineered bullshit now!

I can't believe anyone still buys into this left/right paradigm crap any more. I find it staggering. There is no democracy, the military-industrial complex are in charge and the election was merely a 2 year long side-show akin to WWF Wrestling. I tell you what friend, drink some more Kool-Aid and go drool over your porn collection some more and leave those of us who know what is going on to get prepared for the shit hitting the fan. Obama, McCain are both the same and the same hard times are ahead for all of us, regardless of your opinion.

PS This must mean I've made my fifth post now! Apologies if I have a life and don't have the time to sit on here all day posting about obscure Trannies and engaging in sexuality debates. I don't go for that, I prefer to indulge myself in my real, rather than my virtual life...

fitz207
11-07-2008, 01:54 AM
Apologies if I have a life and don't have the time to sit on here all day posting about obscure Trannies and engaging in sexuality debates. I don't go for that, I prefer to indulge myself in my real, rather than my virtual life...
Then why did you join this forum in the 1st place? Oh that's right, because you're a fucking Troll!!!

hippifried
11-07-2008, 02:30 AM
Well I'm happy! :D & isn't that what's really important here? Me?

Barry Obama will be POTUS & John McCain never will be. That's a good thing. Sarah Palin is back off to her obscurity. Same with Joe Biden. There's always a State funeral happening somewhere, so we may never see him again other than clapping at the State of the Union addresses. Michelle Obama will finally get some decent fashion advice & help. The stodginess of the Whitehouse is over with the addition of 2 kids & a new puppy. That should keep the secret service on their toes.

On a slightly more serious note: In order to make all this work & get rid of this racial stereotype bullshit once & for all, Barack Obama is going to have to be the Jackie Robinson of politics. He's already shown a grace & dignity that's inspiring. Really. As thin as he is, he's got a hide thicker than a rhino. He'll be subject to closer scrutiny than any of his predecessors. From what I can tell, he's squeaky clean. There won't be any "Whitewater" type crap. But he still has to do well, & can't make mistakes. It's not just the racist morons he has to make eat crow, but these neo-McCarthyites that are out to red-bait anybody left of fascist too. (You know who you are!)

So congratulations, good luck, & all best wishes to the President elect.


P.S. I'd like to nominate Allanah Starr for Secretlytarry of my Interior! :wink: :lol:

Chicago Guy
11-07-2008, 07:25 AM
Stock market tells the story....

Look at the DJIA close tuesday...and open wednesday....

Legend
11-07-2008, 07:42 AM
Stock market tells the story....

Look at the DJIA close tuesday...and open wednesday....


You think the market would have went through the roof if mccain was eleteced get freakin real.That is because of the economy not barack obama.

Legend
11-07-2008, 07:52 AM
.My point is if you lunatics aren't even going to give him a chance to at least prove himself just STFU.Maybe

Yea I agree, I didn't support Obama, but the people have spoken and I am willing to give him a chance. Overall I think he will do an okay job, above average and restore some foreign communications. The hype around him is so much it seems like people think he will change everything, but 1 man simply cannot do that alone, it would take a world effort for that and many things beyond his control. And probably more than 2 terms of a presidency to do all that. My experience is when there is there much hype around 1 person, very rarely does the person live up to the hype. The greatest presidents are often those we didn't expect to do much.



Nice

Chicago Guy
11-07-2008, 08:08 AM
Stock market tells the story....

Look at the DJIA close tuesday...and open wednesday....


You think the market would have went through the roof if mccain was eleteced get freakin real.That is because of the economy not barack obama.Again...look at the DJIA close tuesday...and open wednesday. What other BIG news broke after the market closed on Tuesday?

Do you think people on Tuesday night realized the economy is bad? The market is down 10% in 2 days....

I have nothing against Obama...I think he is a great person!!! I just think its a little uneducated to believe he is perfect.

I guess the media, wall street, and myself must be crazy...BTW, before people start making racial comments and asking me if I'm white and how old I am...I'm 24 and of Indian decent.

Legend
11-07-2008, 08:24 AM
Stock market tells the story....

Look at the DJIA close tuesday...and open wednesday....


You think the market would have went through the roof if mccain was eleteced get freakin real.That is because of the economy not barack obama.Again...look at the DJIA close tuesday...and open wednesday. What other BIG news broke after the market closed on Tuesday?

Do you think people on Tuesday night realized the economy is bad? The market is down 10% in 2 days....

I have nothing against Obama...I think he is a great person!!! I just think its a little uneducated to believe he is perfect.

I guess the media, wall street, and myself must be crazy...BTW, before people start making racial comments and asking me if I'm white and how old I am...I'm 24 and of Indian decent.


Not that you have any kind point but what the hell are you trying to say,stop sugar coating things and say what you have too.Your first comment in this thread proves your dislike for barack so you have a agenda for posting that stock market post,if you dislike him just say it,don't keep coming with false statements.

NYBURBS
11-07-2008, 08:29 AM
Oh yea that's pretty logical you fucking retard. The majority (at least the second time around) elected Bush yet tons of people did not support him. If 51% elected a Hilter type should I be forced to "support him or stfu and move out of the country"? Some of you Obama supporters are running around calling others ignorant, meanwhile you are posting some of the most ignorant comments I have ever read.

PS- I didn't vote for either major party candidate. On a state and local level I voted for a mix of 3rd party, Democrat and Republican, so spare me with any tinfoil or hater comments k thx.

PPS- Ron Paul 2012 :!:


Wow that just shows the stupidity of all you ron paul nutjobs "hitler" give me a f**king break.My point is if you lunatics aren't even going to give him a chance to at least prove himself just STFU.Maybe if you ron paul freaks would cry and bitch less your guy wouldn't't be a f**king joke in every or primary and election he has been in.


Yeah 2012 my ass,ron paul doesn't have 2012 supporters.Hey paul will always win those pathetic worthless internet polls which he wins by all 12 of his supporters voting multiple times.I'm sick of you pathetic fags you've turn this thread into something that was cool into a place where you can bitch and whine.With that being said i'm done with you loons there is nothing you can do because barack Obama is president and ron paul is not and will never be.

Oh Gee there's a super comeback!!! lol. Did you get picked on a lot in school for being that retard type kid? Your statement about stfu or get out of the country is ignorant. It is the same stance ignorant people on the other side of the political debate take. Live with the fact that you made a stupid comment and just man up to it.

I'm not bitching by calling you a retard. Nor is disagreeing with a socialist agenda something I would normally refer to as bitching. Should we label all those anti-bush protests as bitching? How about people that don't like the patriot act? You truly need to sit back and evaluate how you look at others' points of view. I debate people on the board all the time without resorting to "stfu or get out of the country!!!" I suppose you must be the "worthy" twin that hangs with the board liberals.

PS- If anything is crying or bitching it is your moan about how people have killed this "special" thread by interjecting their points of view lol.

El Nino
11-07-2008, 08:32 AM
Brezinski won the presidency...

Legend
11-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Oh Gee there's a super comeback!!! lol. Did you get picked on a lot in school for being that retard type kid? You're statement about stfu or get out of the country is ignorant. It is the same stance ignorant people on the other side of the political debate take. Live with the fact that you made a stupid comment and just man up to it.

Actually it was an opinion,if you nutjobs aren't willing to give him a chance get the fuck out.

NYBURBS
11-07-2008, 08:52 AM
Oh Gee there's a super comeback!!! lol. Did you get picked on a lot in school for being that retard type kid? You're statement about stfu or get out of the country is ignorant. It is the same stance ignorant people on the other side of the political debate take. Live with the fact that you made a stupid comment and just man up to it.

Actually it was an opinion,if you nutjobs aren't willing to give him a chance get the fuck out.

Yea is this where I come in with "I served in the military and you didn't so stfu and get out of my country!". Again refer back to my post, you need to rethink your intellectual positions there super star.

Legend
11-07-2008, 10:36 AM
Oh Gee there's a super comeback!!! lol. Did you get picked on a lot in school for being that retard type kid? You're statement about stfu or get out of the country is ignorant. It is the same stance ignorant people on the other side of the political debate take. Live with the fact that you made a stupid comment and just man up to it.

Actually it was an opinion,if you nutjobs aren't willing to give him a chance get the fuck out.

Yea is this where I come in with "I served in the military and you didn't so stfu and get out of my country!". Again refer back to my post, you need to rethink your intellectual positions there super star.


No thats when you say any clown that states he will not be giving the president any kind of chance backs up the reason why or shuts his mouth.

NYBURBS
11-07-2008, 11:10 AM
Oh Gee there's a super comeback!!! lol. Did you get picked on a lot in school for being that retard type kid? You're statement about stfu or get out of the country is ignorant. It is the same stance ignorant people on the other side of the political debate take. Live with the fact that you made a stupid comment and just man up to it.

Actually it was an opinion,if you nutjobs aren't willing to give him a chance get the fuck out.

Yea is this where I come in with "I served in the military and you didn't so stfu and get out of my country!". Again refer back to my post, you need to rethink your intellectual positions there super star.


No thats when you say any clown that states he will not be giving the president any kind of chance backs up the reason why or shuts his mouth.

Again no one should feel obligated to "support" a president or anyone else. People felt free to bash Bush (as they should) and some did it from day 1 of his presidency. I happen to disagree with Obama on a fundamental level and in no way do I feel the need to "stfu or get out of the country" as you so eloquently put it. I certainly respect the election process and the fact he will be the next president, yet I will continue to advocate against his policy agenda.

chefmike
11-07-2008, 02:44 PM
Zbigniew Brzezinski is the real winner tonight, he can get on with his plans unhindered now...

what a fucking moron im sorry but if you think McCain and OBAMA are the same then you are a fucking moron...

ANYWAYS ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS BUSH IT OVER NOW SO GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

HA-HA!! Yeh I'm a moron, do you even know who our new President, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is? Do you? Do you know what the 'Ford Foundation' is? The Council on Foreign Relations? The Tri-Lateral Commission? As I am merely a simple moron who thinks these guys are just the same puppets for their masters, I would appreciate you telling me, and the rest of us, just where Obama and McCain differ on just these three issues would you?

The Banker Bailout
The War in Iraq
The War on Drugs

So you think Bush controlled anything do you? You think Obama will change things for the better? Gimme a break! Are you aware of the phrase 'continuity of Government'? Are you aware that Condoleeza Rice, surely no friend of the Democrats, announced that we are to have a 'smooth transition' from Bush to Obama? And what is this 'Major International Crisis' Obama will face on Jan 21st/22nd (according to Biden, Powell and Albright) which is going to make him unpopular? They are even announcing the dates of their engineered bullshit now!

I can't believe anyone still buys into this left/right paradigm crap any more. I find it staggering. There is no democracy, the military-industrial complex are in charge and the election was merely a 2 year long side-show akin to WWF Wrestling. I tell you what friend, drink some more Kool-Aid and go drool over your porn collection some more and leave those of us who know what is going on to get prepared for the shit hitting the fan. Obama, McCain are both the same and the same hard times are ahead for all of us, regardless of your opinion.

PS This must mean I've made my fifth post now! Apologies if I have a life and don't have the time to sit on here all day posting about obscure Trannies and engaging in sexuality debates. I don't go for that, I prefer to indulge myself in my real, rather than my virtual life...

Another member of the tinfoil beanie brigade...so predictable...zzzzzzzzz...

chefmike
11-07-2008, 03:02 PM
The ridiculous attacks on Zbigniew Brzezinski are laughable and ludicrous. The smears come from the far right and other assorted crazies. Zbigniew Brzezinski is a brilliant man and an asset to any administration.

hippifried
11-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Again...look at the DJIA close tuesday...and open wednesday. What other BIG news broke after the market closed on Tuesday?
The monthly business & profit reports. Couple that with the quarterly unemployment figures that came out last week & told everybody that consumers aren't going to be bailing anybody out anytime soon & that there's going to be more foreclosures, & you have enough bad news to crash any market. Plus, the banks still aren't loaning money.

Do you think people on Tuesday night realized the economy is bad? The market is down 10% in 2 days....
So what? It did that after the bailout passed too, & before the election. The DOW didn't go lower than it did then. More bad news from the labor department today, & the DOW is up again as of this moment. Go figure. The stock market is panic stricken on a daily basis. You can't judge the economy by what goes on in the pits. Politics either.

I have nothing against Obama...I think he is a great person!!! I just think its a little uneducated to believe he is perfect.
Nobody thinks he's perfect or has ever said they did. What he is is smart, pragmatic, even tempered, deliberate, & disciplined. Sounds good to me. I'm tired of mindless ideologues.

I guess the media, wall street, and myself must be crazy...
Yup. & if all y'all can't stay on your meds, lobotomy is always an option. :lol:

BTW, before people start making racial comments and asking me if I'm white and how old I am...I'm 24 and of Indian decent.
Oh. Casino Indian or Microsoft tech-support Indian? Just curious. Doesn't really matter because you're still wet behind the ears. My grandkids think they've got all the answers too.

doctranny07
11-07-2008, 08:41 PM
Paying their fair share? I pay more in taxes than you probably make. If you think anybody in this country is going to get a tax break. Think again. In 1 year people are gonna come to the realization that they have been lied to by Obama. He will not dd any of things he promised except make government bigger and unemployment will reach the double digits in % and this will put us into a depression. I don't care how much money he is giving away for his entitlement programs.

doctranny07
11-07-2008, 08:44 PM
The only reason Obame got elected is because of the liberal media making him out to be the second coming of christ. he is not and will not change anything in this country.

fitz207
11-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Paying their fair share? I pay more in taxes than you probably make. If you think anybody in this country is going to get a tax break. Think again. In 1 year people are gonna come to the realization that they have been lied to by Obama. He will not dd any of things he promised except make government bigger and unemployment will reach the double digits in % and this will put us into a depression. I don't care how much money he is giving away for his entitlement programs.
So you think it's right to live in the U.S and not pay taxes? The tax system in this country is progressive, it's been that way since 1910. I guess you think it's ok for wealthy to hide most of their money in overseas tax shelters too? Obama has not LIED, he has said it won't be easy to dig us out of this hole.

Higher or lower taxes have nothing to do to with unemployment. The wealthy have gotten tax breaks under Bush, so where are the jobs?? Whining over a 3% tax increase (The same as Clinton's increase) when you make over $250,000 is just silly.

fitz207
11-08-2008, 05:26 PM
The only reason Obame got elected is because of the liberal media making him out to be the second coming of christ. he is not and will not change anything in this country.
That's garbage. You mean the same liberal media who talked about Rev. Wright for over a month? The same liberal media who fawned over McCain in 2000? Life would be much worse under McCain/Palin, telling women they would have to carry a rapist baby in their body is just plain nuts. Religion Has No Place in Government.

NYBURBS
11-08-2008, 08:45 PM
So you think it's right to live in the U.S and not pay taxes? The tax system in this country is progressive, it's been that way since 1910. I guess you think it's ok for wealthy to hide most of their money in overseas tax shelters too? Obama has not LIED, he has said it won't be easy to dig us out of this hole.

Higher or lower taxes have nothing to do to with unemployment. The wealthy have gotten tax breaks under Bush, so where are the jobs?? Whining over a 3% tax increase (The same as Clinton's increase) when you make over $250,000 is just silly.

Whining? There is such a sad jealousy in this nation over who has what. A guy that makes that kind of money is not filthy rich, he is simply doing pretty well. That he should have to pay almost 40% of his income to just 1 tax is insane. That still leaves FICA, State income tax, sales taxed, property taxes, usage fees, so on and so forth.

Btw that was actually 1913 that the federal government re-instituted the income tax, right after ratification of the 16th Amendment. Perhaps you should research it and see the difference in rates and the income levels (adjusted for inflation) that it was originally set to. I think you'd see it was a vastly different system than what is imposed today. An income of 500,000 (in 1913 dollars) paid a 6% rate. Most people paid nothing, yet today you talk about people whining that almost 40% of their income is going to go to one tax :roll: