My first real date since 2005

[TsVanessa69]

Yes, ladies and gentleman you read correct. Today was the first time since 2005 I went out on a DATE. Not a hit and run, wham bam thank you mam, but a date! I met a guy online who lives in Milwaukee Wisc. We have talked for months online and he decided to come spend the day with me and have some fun. A simple and fun day! Nothing sexual, nothing weird, a date, with holding hands, and chit chat about nothing at all. A very fun and refreshing change! We wanted to do something I wouldn't do but would find fun, jokingly I said the zoo, and we went! I',m not a bitchy stuck up gal, a normal gal with simple needs. We had Wendys and spent a fun day at the zoo. Wish more men were like my friend Phil!!!!!!!!!! The date ended with a kiss on the lips and a goodbye. I felt like a girl in high school!!

[TampaErotic]

what is he ....uh.....gay or something?

[TsVanessa69]

Something funny we saw in the park, we don't know what these sulptures really are, but we got a good laugh, and some funny shots! Phil loves photography!

[TsVanessa69]

what is he ....uh.....gay or something?
How the fuck would any man who went out on a date with me be gay???? :roll: You must be on the wrong forum to even ask a stupid ass question like that :roll: :roll:
Last time I looked in a mirror I saw a woman
When he approached me, he approached me because I was a woman, what gay man dates a woman????

[TsVanessa69]

We loved the animals and they loved me!
The goat wouldn't stop licking me all over, then he ran up to Phil and licked his crotch, EMBARRASSING!!!!!

[TsVanessa69]

This was fun!!!

[TsVanessa69]

yeaaa, it was refreshing and different. I wish more men treated us normal! Its simple, good old fashion romance and fun!

[mimiplastique]

great polar bear shot you look soo cute at the zoo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TampaErotic]

what is he ....uh.....gay or something?
How the fuck would any man who went out on a date with me be gay???? :roll: You must be on the wrong forum to even ask a stupid ass question like that :roll: :roll:
Last time I looked in a mirror I saw a woman
When he approached me, he approached me because I was a woman, what gay man dates a woman????

O, the irony if it all...
Simply put; when a guy goes out with an attractive "woman" and doesn't try to get his swerve on... his circle of friends might call him gay. O, nevermind.

[Legend]

Why did you quote woman?

[mimiplastique]

i find it so fucking funny how we can't just go out and post positive things that we do like go to the beach or to the zoo with out the negativity of sarcastic ass people
it's really sad
and i will say yes i have been negative in the past but only to those who initiated the bulls shit i mean get real.


Like Thumpers mom says "if you don't have anything nice to say , don't say anything at all


jeez

[Hostile]

Personally, I hope you find love and i hope its real. Do not give up hope but if the real thing comes along, get outta here, run with it. I am glad to see a ts post pics of here self doing normal things instead of its ova for me bullshit. I wish you and all the girls the best. There is someone out there for everyone!

[TampaErotic]

Why did you quote woman?
Should I have not quoted woman?

Some of you are very sensitive here. I make a joke that I thought was endearing to the poster...... and I get piled on??

[JANIRA]

Sounds like you had a fantastic time Vanessa!! Congrats sweety!!! Sometimes the simple things in life are far more adventurous than what we may be acustom to. Not to mention the amazing feeling when a guy is a Total gentlemen and treats you like the "WOMAN" you are. If only some men could be less Tgirl Cock hungry and get to know a girl , have a conversation (Intelligently), know the content of her mind before assuming anything or judging her.

[TampaErotic]

Speaking of piling on. Janira, have you ever thought about traveling a little north to Tampa?

[JANIRA]

I been there but not so recently , hopefully soon.

[Hostile]

i would rather see girls doing normal things and talk about Love instead of posting nude sex shit. Of course you'll get the cock hungry tricks that will hijack the post like the guy above. Good for you Vanessa it is refreshing to see sexless lifestyle stuff.

[Moon]

Glad to hear you had a great time, life is for living. Just ignore the negative tosspots. Everyone deserves to find someone special. I hope your relationship continues to grow and the best of luck. Dates are more than about sex

Moon

[MrsKellyPierce]

glad you had fun girl.

[Moon]

I guess us gentlemen are getting as rare as hens teeth

[tstv_lover]

Great to hear that you and Phil enjoyed the date. It's sad that you had to wait such a long time to find someone who wanted your company but didn't try to make it sexual.

Nice photos Vanessa :)

[MacShreach]

Why did you quote woman?
Should I have not quoted woman?



Tampa, just ignore Legend. I got the joke, but just's a head-up there are wee buttons above the text box on the posting page that allows you to use italics or bold or any combination, thus avoiding the need to use quotes for emphasis, and any possible confusion. Maybe. Of course if you know bit of html you can just code it, but then I'd be teaching my grandma to suck eggs again....

And Vanessa I can honestly say I see you in a completely new light after this-- very charming and refreshing, and you look great in casuals.

Be nice if more ladies took time to post stuff like this.

[thx1138]

@ Vanessa: where's Phil's photo? Is he camera shy? You're happy with lunch at Wendy's, a stroll in the park and a trip to a petting zoo? I wish all the women I went out with were like you. I would have saved a bundle. You should see seals. They are a lot of fun. For a terrifying experience see a mountain lion. One I once saw lunged at the glass partition that separted us from him. I thought I was going to be killed. Those claws at my throat.

[doradora]

Wow, That Zoo is wonderful, I watched that only on TV. fantastic.

and you look like very happy.
Congratulations Vanessa. :D

and Good Luck. :wink:

[Gmanfromthechi]

Im so happy for you Vanessa!! I hope there are many more to cum, er..i mean come! :-P

[Mattias3]

lol looks like he wern't the only one going in for a kiss judging by the polar bear pic, only he was disapointed to find glass in the way!

Good that you enjoyed ya day though! Pics look great as well.

[Moon]

After all a date is not about where you go, so much as the person you are with.

Even the simplest thing, like a walk it the park or alnog the beach can be transformed into something wonderful by being with the right person.

Great photo's Vanessa, you look simply wonderful

[will802]

good for you vanessa! The look on your face shows that you were having fun.... nice to see a post like this in here..... :)

[T Oracle]

Get Phil to take you out again! Please! :D

Great pics!

And it's really cool to hear you had such a fun day!!!!!!

[harlemzfinest]

glad to see you had a great tim vanessa. you definitely deserve it!! congrats!!

[TsVanessa69]

what is he ....uh.....gay or something?
How the fuck would any man who went out on a date with me be gay???? :roll: You must be on the wrong forum to even ask a stupid ass question like that :roll: :roll:
Last time I looked in a mirror I saw a woman
When he approached me, he approached me because I was a woman, what gay man dates a woman????

O, the irony if it all...
Simply put; when a guy goes out with an attractive "woman" and doesn't try to get his swerve on... his circle of friends might call him gay. O, nevermind.
No, when a man dates a woman and wants more than just sex from her he would be a GENTLEMAN, which from your comments proves that they are rare. See I get tired of men just using me as a sex toy all the time. Going on a date with him was special to me. As a ts I can say a simple fun date is very rare. Sharing this with the forum I was hoping to open guys eyes to what a ts wants. Its not always about sex or money, sometimes its about having fun and enjoying life, and getting to know someone outside the bedroom. You obviously know nothing about that. I also wanted to point out that girls who escort do live normal lives when they can. My life doesn't revolve around turning tricks and shoving my cock down guys throats! :roll:

[TsVanessa69]

lol looks like he wern't the only one going in for a kiss judging by the polar bear pic, only he was disapointed to find glass in the way!

Good that you enjoyed ya day though! Pics look great as well.
Yea the funny thing was he kept swimming up to me. He stopped twice and just stared at me. The bear liked me too, we caught him sniffing my butt through the glass. The little kids laughed! The most funny was in the petting zoo when my goat pal licked me all over then licked Phils crotch! Those animals are FREAKY!!!!

[Alyssa87]

it also needs to be said that u look R E A L without the paint and hoochiegear. iiiiii see it!

[flabbybody]

would have never thought of the idea as the zoo for a place to take a first date

I like it.
now all I need is the date

[BeardedOne]

would have never thought of the idea as the zoo for a place to take a first date

I like it.
now all I need is the date

The gurls have met worse animals here. :D

Great pix Vanessa. Glad you had a fun day. I can't remember my last 'real' date (That wasn't commercially arranged). I guess I could count the occasional dinner outing with TW or a couple of the gurl's I've met here in the forums, but those seem to be more of a meet-and-greet adventure than a 'date' (Of course, my whole concept of what constitutes a 'date' may be somewhat skewed).

Thanx for sharing your day out with the lions and tigers and bears. Oh my! :wink:

[peggygee]

Vanessa, I'm so happy to hear of your date. And zoos, walks in the park,
along a beach, museums, etc, are all good low stress, inexspenive places
to go on a first date.

Trusting that this will be another one of many. :wink:

[justatransgirl]

We went to the zoo about a year ago.

They kept trying to put me back in the monkey cage...

Glad you had fun sweetie.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

[Moon]

Glad to hear you were treated as a lady, seems too many men don't these days. I have never treated my past TS lady friends as anything but ladies. After all you are what is in your heart. A body can be changed, a heart cannot.

Wishing you both all the best for the future.

[ARMANIXXX]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?

[TsVanessa69]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?When you are ts, guys skip the date and go for the sex. Thus I don't deal with them anymore, total turn off. If you just want sex pay me and get it over with. I see you don't get the whole point of my thread :roll:

[ARMANIXXX]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?When you are ts, guys skip the date and go for the sex. Thus I don't deal with them anymore, total turn off. If you just want sex pay me and get it over with. I see you don't get the whole point of my thread :roll:


Well, I've went on a few dates out here with some TS girls. Sometimes there's sex, sometimes there's not.

And I don't feel I have to lie to kick it, just like any other 20-something, I definitely want to have sex on EVERY date, no doubt about that. lol

[TsVanessa69]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?When you are ts, guys skip the date and go for the sex. Thus I don't deal with them anymore, total turn off. If you just want sex pay me and get it over with. I see you don't get the whole point of my thread :roll:


Well, I've went on a few dates out here with some TS girls. Sometimes there's sex, sometimes there's not.

And I don't feel I have to lie to kick it, just like any other 20-something, I definitely want to have sex on EVERY date, no doubt about that. lol
As a ts, I'm tired of it already
Now mind you, I didn't ever say that if he wanted some, he couldn't have had it, BUT the fact that he drove as far as he did to see me, spent the whole day with me and we did what we did, and he didn't ask for or expect sex in return deserved to be applauded. Now I'm shure you have not had sex on EVERY date you have been on. Now even when I had a boyfriend, circa 2003-2005, we didn't have sex on EVERY date we went on. Its jus I must say in this lifestyle, going on a date is Rare, almost non-exsistant.;

[redtiger]

Glad to hear you had a good time on your date Vanessa. I hope something really good comes out of this for you.

It does seem that all too often we guys only think about getting a woman out of her clothes and into a bed somehow. It's even refreshing to me that someone was willing to just have a fun time outside and leave the idea of sex out of it.

[ARMANIXXX]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?When you are ts, guys skip the date and go for the sex. Thus I don't deal with them anymore, total turn off. If you just want sex pay me and get it over with. I see you don't get the whole point of my thread :roll:


Well, I've went on a few dates out here with some TS girls. Sometimes there's sex, sometimes there's not.

And I don't feel I have to lie to kick it, just like any other 20-something, I definitely want to have sex on EVERY date, no doubt about that. lol
As a ts, I'm tired of it already
Now mind you, I didn't ever say that if he wanted some, he couldn't have had it, BUT the fact that he drove as far as he did to see me, spent the whole day with me and we did what we did, and he didn't ask for or expect sex in return deserved to be applauded. Now I'm shure you have not had sex on EVERY date you have been on. Now even when I had a boyfriend, circa 2003-2005, we didn't have sex on EVERY date we went on. Its jus I must say in this lifestyle, going on a date is Rare, almost non-exsistant.;


You know what's funny,

Some of the girls out here don't even want the date........they just want the sex. Like, they will straight turn down the meet and greet date (dinner, movie, bar, club, etc), and all they want to do is get it crackin.


Almost makes me feel all used and cheap at the end of the night.........





Almost.

lol

[BeardedOne]

Its jus I must say in this lifestyle, going on a date is Rare, almost non-exsistant.;

What Vanessa sez is true and mentioned by many of the gurls on far too many occasions. It's a shame, really, but a caveat of the culture/lifestyle (And not of their own making).

I'm certainly not one to speak about relationships and dating, having crashed and burned so many times in my life that people have betting pools on my social encounters, but I've seen the hopes and dreams along the way, as well as the associated train wrecks.

I've knocked boots with more people (GG, TG, TV, TS, IS, GM, TM, ad infinitum) than most =meet= on social encounters in a =lifetime=, and it's both jaded me hopelessly as well as taught me things that work =for me= in my social encounters today.

While there is nothing wrong with sex on a first date (Lord knows, it has become a rule for me, as there is oft not a second date), there are times where sex becomes a secondary perk of an otherwise pleasant and upbeat day.

Oddly enough, one of my fondest memories is of a time I spent with a gurl where we had a fine commercial date first and then, out of the blue, retired to a sweet, relaxed, candle-lit dinner afterwards. In an inverse of the accepted rule, we had the true 'date' =after= the sex. I've yet to decide which half of the evening was the topper, as both were off the charts as far as pleasure was derived.

There are a number of gurls here on HA, the other forums, and elsewhere that I would genuinely like to spend time with "Off the clock", but it's tough when they so naturally have to keep their guard up against freeloaders, stalkers, cock-gobblers (Though I confess to being one, I try to at least be civil about it), and assholes.

Vanessa, like many of the Chicago gurls (Or so it seems), is a firebrand that takes shit from no-one, no-how. Yet she takes a moment out of her bizzy day (I'll be polite and won't suggest what 'bizzy' implies ;) ) to share a very nice, relaxed experience with our community and her fans.

Bra-fucking-vo! :claps

To take a quote from a favorite teevee series (Early Edition, that just happens to be set in Chicagoland), I say this:

Live your life.

[TsVanessa69]

Glad to hear you had a good time on your date Vanessa. I hope something really good comes out of this for you.

It does seem that all too often we guys only think about getting a woman out of her clothes and into a bed somehow. It's even refreshing to me that someone was willing to just have a fun time outside and leave the idea of sex out of it.
Well we know eachother thru the internet. I think he may have a girlfriend, but its ok. He is a great guy, fun respectful and "normal". Never reffers to me as anything but a girl. No shemale, no ts, nothing like hat. Our conversations don't involve esorting, drag shows
ts clubs
For a day I got to live and feel as the woman I am, nothing more, nothing less! It was truly refreshing to be and feel like a "real" girl. Holdng hands, kissing, conversation and laughter. Kind of like my expierence in Puerto Rico with Omar. Now I see there are far and few guys out there who can treat us normal. And I like that feeling!

[peggygee]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?When you are ts, guys skip the date and go for the sex. Thus I don't deal with them anymore, total turn off. If you just want sex pay me and get it over with. I see you don't get the whole point of my thread :roll:


Well, I've went on a few dates out here with some TS girls. Sometimes there's sex, sometimes there's not.

And I don't feel I have to lie to kick it, just like any other 20-something, I definitely want to have sex on EVERY date, no doubt about that. lol

Well y'all would hate me, cause you ain't getting no pee hole for several
dates.

Hell it might even be a few months. :shrug

Gonna have to prove you're worthy of the pussy.

[ARMANIXXX]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?When you are ts, guys skip the date and go for the sex. Thus I don't deal with them anymore, total turn off. If you just want sex pay me and get it over with. I see you don't get the whole point of my thread :roll:


Well, I've went on a few dates out here with some TS girls. Sometimes there's sex, sometimes there's not.

And I don't feel I have to lie to kick it, just like any other 20-something, I definitely want to have sex on EVERY date, no doubt about that. lol

Well y'all would hate me, cause you ain't getting no pee hole for several
dates.

Hell it might even be a few months. :shrug

Gonna have to prove you're worthy of the pussy.




I'd make sure to get you a couple/few of these to make the thong fly off:


:wink:

[peggygee]

Well,

Apparently I'll be the first with the audacity to ask..........




What's wrong with having sex on the first date?When you are ts, guys skip the date and go for the sex. Thus I don't deal with them anymore, total turn off. If you just want sex pay me and get it over with. I see you don't get the whole point of my thread :roll:


Well, I've went on a few dates out here with some TS girls. Sometimes there's sex, sometimes there's not.

And I don't feel I have to lie to kick it, just like any other 20-something, I definitely want to have sex on EVERY date, no doubt about that. lol

Well y'all would hate me, cause you ain't getting no pee hole for several
dates.

Hell it might even be a few months. :shrug

Gonna have to prove you're worthy of the pussy.




I'd make sure to get you a couple/few of these to make the thong fly off:


:wink:

I haven't had a drink in 12 years, so the thong, or boyshorts, bikini,
or granny panties stay on.

And when I do get horny, I've got a box of digital lovers. :lol:

So 2 to 3 more months to go, if they act right, then it's head board
breaking time. :shock:

[Hortense]

Glad to hear you had a good time on your date Vanessa. I hope something really good comes out of this for you.

It does seem that all too often we guys only think about getting a woman out of her clothes and into a bed somehow. It's even refreshing to me that someone was willing to just have a fun time outside and leave the idea of sex out of it.
Well we know eachother thru the internet. I think he may have a girlfriend, but its ok. He is a great guy, fun respectful and "normal". Never reffers to me as anything but a girl. No shemale, no ts, nothing like hat. Our conversations don't involve esorting, drag shows
ts clubs
For a day I got to live and feel as the woman I am, nothing more, nothing less! It was truly refreshing to be and feel like a "real" girl. Holdng hands, kissing, conversation and laughter. Kind of like my expierence in Puerto Rico with Omar. Now I see there are far and few guys out there who can treat us normal. And I like that feeling!

Wake me up when you are pregnant

[TsVanessa69]

Glad to hear you had a good time on your date Vanessa. I hope something really good comes out of this for you.

It does seem that all too often we guys only think about getting a woman out of her clothes and into a bed somehow. It's even refreshing to me that someone was willing to just have a fun time outside and leave the idea of sex out of it.
Well we know eachother thru the internet. I think he may have a girlfriend, but its ok. He is a great guy, fun respectful and "normal". Never reffers to me as anything but a girl. No shemale, no ts, nothing like hat. Our conversations don't involve esorting, drag shows
ts clubs
For a day I got to live and feel as the woman I am, nothing more, nothing less! It was truly refreshing to be and feel like a "real" girl. Holdng hands, kissing, conversation and laughter. Kind of like my expierence in Puerto Rico with Omar. Now I see there are far and few guys out there who can treat us normal. And I like that feeling!

Wake me up when you are pregnant
Funny you of all people respond! We been pm'ming for months and I have yet to even see your pic, much less actally meet you

[Hortense]

Glad to hear you had a good time on your date Vanessa. I hope something really good comes out of this for you.

It does seem that all too often we guys only think about getting a woman out of her clothes and into a bed somehow. It's even refreshing to me that someone was willing to just have a fun time outside and leave the idea of sex out of it.
Well we know eachother thru the internet. I think he may have a girlfriend, but its ok. He is a great guy, fun respectful and "normal". Never reffers to me as anything but a girl. No shemale, no ts, nothing like hat. Our conversations don't involve esorting, drag shows
ts clubs
For a day I got to live and feel as the woman I am, nothing more, nothing less! It was truly refreshing to be and feel like a "real" girl. Holdng hands, kissing, conversation and laughter. Kind of like my expierence in Puerto Rico with Omar. Now I see there are far and few guys out there who can treat us normal. And I like that feeling!

Wake me up when you are pregnant
Funny you of all people respond! We been pm'ming for months and I have yet to even see your pic, much less actally meet you

[Hortense]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated

[TsVanessa69]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Where di that come from, why were you sending me so many private messages. Why does all my work show versatility. Why do nameless faceless faggots like you pretend you want to meet, then talk shit about people??

[TsVanessa69]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarceratedFrom: Hortense
To: TsVanessa69
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:08 am
Subject: Hi
Vanessa,

I really want to fuck you

Hortense

[TsVanessa69]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
No you don't know me, we e-mailed online.
If i was not versatile, why do I have photoshoots and video's being fucked, fucking, sucking and getting sucked!
How much more versatile can I be??
You are an ignotant ass son of a bitch, fuck you and stop private messaging me!

[TsVanessa69]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Inbox :: Message
From: Hortense
To: TsVanessa69
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:03 am
Subject: Re: hey
Hey Vanessa,

The video doesn't work, big deal. You said tell me more, what would you like to know?

[TsVanessa69]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Inbox :: Message
From: Hortense
To: TsVanessa69
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:38 am
Subject: Re: hey
Hey Vanessa,

Yes I am in Chicago and you epitomize sexy

[Hortense]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Inbox :: Message
From: Hortense
To: TsVanessa69
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:38 am
Subject: Re: hey
Hey Vanessa,

Yes I am in Chicago and you epitomize sexy

[Legend]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Where di that come from, why were you sending me so many private messages. Why does all my work show versatility. Why do nameless faceless faggots like you pretend you want to meet, then talk shit about people??

This is a regular on the forum playing around with you,this person has refer to himself as a girl before,


Danger! I know of at least 3 girls besides myself this a-hole has been responsible for having entrapped!


So as not to confuse anyone, this a-hole got me busted! He works directly with the police.



explain and be clear hortense.

I thought I was. You are in Vegas so you have nothing to worry about. Don't go near this guy, he'll get you busted.

What other name does "hortense" remind you of?

[Hortense]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Where di that come from, why were you sending me so many private messages. Why does all my work show versatility. Why do nameless faceless faggots like you pretend you want to meet, then talk shit about people??

This is a regular on the forum playing around with you,this person has refer to himself as a girl before,


Danger! I know of at least 3 girls besides myself this a-hole has been responsible for having entrapped!


So as not to confuse anyone, this a-hole got me busted! He works directly with the police.



explain and be clear hortense.

I thought I was. You are in Vegas so you have nothing to worry about. Don't go near this guy, he'll get you busted.

What other name does "hortense" remind you of?

[TsVanessa69]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Where di that come from, why were you sending me so many private messages. Why does all my work show versatility. Why do nameless faceless faggots like you pretend you want to meet, then talk shit about people??

This is a regular on the forum playing around with you,this person has refer to himself as a girl before,


Danger! I know of at least 3 girls besides myself this a-hole has been responsible for having entrapped!


So as not to confuse anyone, this a-hole got me busted! He works directly with the police.



explain and be clear hortense.

I thought I was. You are in Vegas so you have nothing to worry about. Don't go near this guy, he'll get you busted.

What other name does "hortense" remind you of?
Hontis?????

[Thatiger23]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Where di that come from, why were you sending me so many private messages. Why does all my work show versatility. Why do nameless faceless faggots like you pretend you want to meet, then talk shit about people??

This is a regular on the forum playing around with you,this person has refer to himself as a girl before,


Danger! I know of at least 3 girls besides myself this a-hole has been responsible for having entrapped!


So as not to confuse anyone, this a-hole got me busted! He works directly with the police.



explain and be clear hortense.

I thought I was. You are in Vegas so you have nothing to worry about. Don't go near this guy, he'll get you busted.

What other name does "hortense" remind you of?
Hontis?????

Vanessa just ignore this idiot...its probably some ignorant asshole with no life so he/she just gets on here and plays games like a child would

[Legend]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Where di that come from, why were you sending me so many private messages. Why does all my work show versatility. Why do nameless faceless faggots like you pretend you want to meet, then talk shit about people??

This is a regular on the forum playing around with you,this person has refer to himself as a girl before,


Danger! I know of at least 3 girls besides myself this a-hole has been responsible for having entrapped!


So as not to confuse anyone, this a-hole got me busted! He works directly with the police.



explain and be clear hortense.

I thought I was. You are in Vegas so you have nothing to worry about. Don't go near this guy, he'll get you busted.

What other name does "hortense" remind you of?
Hontis?????

Perhaps it could person or it could be someone using that name that kind of figured we would associate it with hontis nonetheless its someone from the forums playing around with you.

[TsVanessa69]

I know you, you are not versatile in any way shape or form. You need to be incarcerated
Where di that come from, why were you sending me so many private messages. Why does all my work show versatility. Why do nameless faceless faggots like you pretend you want to meet, then talk shit about people??

This is a regular on the forum playing around with you,this person has refer to himself as a girl before,


Danger! I know of at least 3 girls besides myself this a-hole has been responsible for having entrapped!


So as not to confuse anyone, this a-hole got me busted! He works directly with the police.



explain and be clear hortense.

I thought I was. You are in Vegas so you have nothing to worry about. Don't go near this guy, he'll get you busted.

What other name does "hortense" remind you of?
Hontis?????

Perhaps it could person or it could be someone using that name that kind of figured we would associate it with hontis nonetheless its someone from the forums playing around with you.
Yea because the pm's he or she who knows sent me, sent me a different message. Oh well anyway we now see what an asshole this person is!

[freak]

glad to see you had a good time, you deserve it.
Hope you have many more good dates in the future

[yodajazz]

I’m coming to this late, but on the original topic of the date, I want to say that I am happy for you. Life and relationships are much more than sex. There is a whole world out there and actually the zoo is a great reminder of that fact. Plus in a long term relationship you will spend more time talking than anything else, over the ling haul. And I am not saying that this date will lead to something long term, but that you’re getting it right about what it means to have a full life.

By the way I’m scheduled to come to downtown Chicago to play some Blues this November, so maybe you and some others can come and hang out at Buddy Guy’s.

[tstv_lover]

I find myself very much in agreement with Hostile and Moon.

It's often the seemingly little things that make the biggest difference in a relationship. When I dated my last transsexual gf she got so much pleasure just being seen with a date in a restaurant, bar or shopping without the guy trying to hide in the dark or constantly be on guard. She just wanted to be treated like any girl on a date wanted to be treated.

It all comes down to respect, empathy and sharing time together. Sex is really such a small part of a relationship.

Hope that other girls follow your example Vanessa, and hope that other guys follow Phil's example.

[Mylon]

You get what you ask for. If you haven't had a date since 2005 that's because you haven't been looking for one.

Escorts have to go out of their way to have non-escort-like encounters.

[Moon]

My TS girlfriend also enjoyed the simple things, sitting in a cafe people watching, going to the park, walking along the shore. I never treated her any different to any other lady, after all she was a lady in her heart and that is all I ever saw looking beyond the physical. I always felt proud to be seen out with her and she with me. Yes there was sex but it was never the most important part of the relationship, companionship and sharing life were the most important, together with trust.

Meeting the right person never seems to happen when you are looking, it always comes along when you least expect it.

Best wishes for the future Vanessa, you deserve the best

Ignore the idiots, your alot better than them.

Moon

[TsVanessa69]

You get what you ask for. If you haven't had a date since 2005 that's because you haven't been looking for one.

Escorts have to go out of their way to have non-escort-like encounters.
Now thats the most stupidest thing I have heard yet. See I don't escort full time, I have other legit sources of income. Have I looked for a date since then , no because nobody "looks" for dates. Have men ask me on dates to impress me, the blow me off or stand me up last minute, YESS! The problem isn't me, its men and their insecurities! Look at the pics I posted in this thread. Not a drop of make-up!

[TsVanessa69]

I find myself very much in agreement with Hostile and Moon.

It's often the seemingly little things that make the biggest difference in a relationship. When I dated my last transsexual gf she got so much pleasure just being seen with a date in a restaurant, bar or shopping without the guy trying to hide in the dark or constantly be on guard. She just wanted to be treated like any girl on a date wanted to be treated.

It all comes down to respect, empathy and sharing time together. Sex is really such a small part of a relationship.

Hope that other girls follow your example Vanessa, and hope that other guys follow Phil's example.
Same with me, all I ask is to be treated like any other girl! Movies, burgers, pizza, bowling, walking along the lake, simple fun "normal" things. But when you are ts, thats all men see, they fail to realize that dep down inside, we are still woman. I posted this thread to hopefully enlighten the guys on here to what we realy want! To be treated normal and like a woman!

[Moon]

Well said Vanessa, it is a shame some men don't look any deeper at a person than their skin, on the other hand some of us understand and treat others how they should be treated.

Come on guys be a little more sensitive and understanding. They are ladies, treat them as such

[tslvr]

Vanessa, I sure hope you'll let me take you out on my next visit to Chicago. Don't know when that will be, I only know that it isn't going to be soon enough.

On the other side of the coin, I wonder how many times guys have sincerely asked a girl out for a date and got the response, 'sure, that'll be $xxx's'?

[thezodiac]

I haven't been on a zoo since I was 10, 9 maybe? I'm now 33 years old...

[thx1138]

"On the other side of the coin, I wonder how many times guys have sincerely asked a girl out for a date and got the response, 'sure, that'll be $xxx's'?" LOL

[BeardedOne]

First off, Moon's av of 'Killer' is just to die for (I'm a cat lover, so sue me). :D


Come on guys be a little more sensitive and understanding. They are ladies, treat them as such

Yet, as nature made us, we are guys and we picture them in oversized team t-shirts with a beer in one hand and a condom in the other asking "Izzit half-time yet?". :roll:

I see what both sides are saying though, and I'm glad Vanessa posted this thread. While it is nice to see one of the gurls having a fine day enjoying her life (They do have them, you know), it also shows that there was someone out there who stepped beyond the boundaries of the norm and treated her to and shared this most wonderful day.

I've been out and about with gurls since Gawd was a pup. In the 'old' days (And there were so many of them), they were chance meetings in odd venues (Gay Pride parades, bookstores, development conferences) and in recent times there were meetings from these forums. I've never treated them any differently than I've treated anyone else (Or so I believe. Only they could say for sure). How they see me may be skewed by the fact that I had a major breakdown in the late 1990s (Triggered by my last GG lover) and really don't fare well in public venues. What, to me, is a discomfort with the public at large for no more reason than the fact that they =ARE= the public at large, may appear differently to a gurl that doesn't know me very well.

Yet, when I spend time with a gurl it is as often to spend time with =her= as with the sum of her parts. There's no denying that I like the she-cock and there's at least a couple of gurl's here on HA that were afraid they'd lose it to me, I was so enthusiastic, but you can't have a conversation with a dick. Assholes don't tell the best jokes (Unless it's your boss, then you're just faking that laugh). And big tits can't chitty-chat about the weather and cats and flowers and old cars.

Yah, it's hard to 'date' an escort. As hard as it is for an escort to date a 'potential client'. Been there, done that. My first true 'girlfriend' was a street whore in Boston. A far cry from being an 'escort', the friendship/relationship presented challenges that I'd not wish on my worst enemies. Yet, when things got rough she'd call me and knew I'd always show. Yah, there was sex, but the relationship was always more than that, and I was happy to see her grow and move on to a better life.

Is your lady an escort? So what?
Is she a T-gurl? So?
Is she a Republican? Er...Never mind, I don't wanna travel that road.

Do you like her? Dare I say it? 'Love her'?

Take her to the zoo! Take her to the Museum of Science and Industry! Take her to Wrigley for a NIGHT GAME (They have lights now!).

And when people look at you, you know they are thinking "Now, =there= is a couple that is enjoying their life!".

[TsVanessa69]

First off, Moon's av of 'Killer' is just to die for (I'm a cat lover, so sue me). :D


Come on guys be a little more sensitive and understanding. They are ladies, treat them as such

Yet, as nature made us, we are guys and we picture them in oversized team t-shirts with a beer in one hand and a condom in the other asking "Izzit half-time yet?". :roll:

I see what both sides are saying though, and I'm glad Vanessa posted this thread. While it is nice to see one of the gurls having a fine day enjoying her life (They do have them, you know), it also shows that there was someone out there who stepped beyond the boundaries of the norm and treated her to and shared this most wonderful day.

I've been out and about with gurls since Gawd was a pup. In the 'old' days (And there were so many of them), they were chance meetings in odd venues (Gay Pride parades, bookstores, development conferences) and in recent times there were meetings from these forums. I've never treated them any differently than I've treated anyone else (Or so I believe. Only they could say for sure). How they see me may be skewed by the fact that I had a major breakdown in the late 1990s (Triggered by my last GG lover) and really don't fare well in public venues. What, to me, is a discomfort with the public at large for no more reason than the fact that they =ARE= the public at large, may appear differently to a gurl that doesn't know me very well.

Yet, when I spend time with a gurl it is as often to spend time with =her= as with the sum of her parts. There's no denying that I like the she-cock and there's at least a couple of gurl's here on HA that were afraid they'd lose it to me, I was so enthusiastic, but you can't have a conversation with a dick. Assholes don't tell the best jokes (Unless it's your boss, then you're just faking that laugh). And big tits can't chitty-chat about the weather and cats and flowers and old cars.

Yah, it's hard to 'date' an escort. As hard as it is for an escort to date a 'potential client'. Been there, done that. My first true 'girlfriend' was a street whore in Boston. A far cry from being an 'escort', the friendship/relationship presented challenges that I'd not wish on my worst enemies. Yet, when things got rough she'd call me and knew I'd always show. Yah, there was sex, but the relationship was always more than that, and I was happy to see her grow and move on to a better life.

Is your lady an escort? So what?
Is she a T-gurl? So?
Is she a Republican? Er...Never mind, I don't wanna travel that road.

Do you like her? Dare I say it? 'Love her'?

Take her to the zoo! Take her to the Museum of Science and Industry! Take her to Wrigley for a NIGHT GAME (They have lights now!).

And when people look at you, you know they are thinking "Now, =there= is a couple that is enjoying their life!".
Life long Sox fan! Would love to catch a game with a cute guy!

[TsVanessa69]

A, did you kids have a chaparone?

and,

B, Did he have you back before curfew?
Well, I am sterile, so no kids, LOL
And yes we were back before curfew. We also kissed on the front porch :lol: