Background on Obama

[InHouston]

http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

[trish]

So which is he, the most liberal senator in congress or an islamo-fascist? He can't be both. Is he a Muslim or a Christian inextricably tied to Rev. Wright's church in Chicago. A little research into either will show that he can't be both. Is Obama a Muslim, a Christian or a godless communist. He can't be all three.

So what's the point of the above propaganda link? If you're afraid of Muslims, Obama is Muslim. If you fear blacks most, Obama is a clone of the marine technician, Rev. Wright. If you're more afraid of communism then Obama is a communist.

These are obviously propaganda traps for cowards. Don't be one.

What is most eye-opening about this "Illuminati" production is how fearful and hateful the producers are and how fearful and hate filled their audience must be.

[El Nino]

Obama promises nothing but empty rhetoric. What is he really going to "change"? huh?

[trish]

First and foremost, a reasoned withdraw from the war in Iraq.

(You also have to admit, it'd be a change to have a president who can express coherently his thoughts. Hell, it'd be a nice change to have a president who has coherent thoughts.)

[El Nino]

Yeah sure... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[trish]

Your claim, El Nino, is that "Barrack promises nothing..."

I've told you one thing he promises (that by the way McCain doesn't). That's sufficient to disprove your claim. You laugh, I presume, because you don't believe the promise. But that's a different matter. It's incumbent upon you to to provide evidence that Obama won't keep his promise.

I know, I know...the laughter is really meant to cover up your disappointment that no one paid any attention to Dr. Paul. Get over your sour grapes, please. Time to get real.

[yodajazz]

So which is he, the most liberal senator in congress or an islamo-fascist? He can't be both. Is he a Muslim or a Christian inextricably tied to Rev. Wright's church in Chicago. A little research into either will show that he can't be both. Is Obama a Muslim, a Christian or a godless communist. He can't be all three.

So what's the point of the above propaganda link? If you're afraid of Muslims, Obama is Muslim. If you fear blacks most, Obama is a clone of the marine technician, Rev. Wright. If you're more afraid of communism then Obama is a communist.

These are obviously propaganda traps for cowards. Don't be one.

What is most eye-opening about this "Illuminati" production is how fearful and hateful the producers are and how fearful and hate filled their audience must be.

Great post Trish! I just finished a post where I spoke about the tactic of fear being used. All this speculation about Obama, but meanwhile hiding their sins of things the present adminstration have actually done. The war was started under false pretenses, using fear. A real strong person does not need to live in fear.

[Cuchulain]

El Nino, Ron Paul is not going to be President. That's a good thing, imo. I don't want Social Security, The Dept. of Education, the progressive income tax system and the 8 hour workday to go the way of the dinosaur.

So we've got 2 choices - Obama or McCain. McCain would be just as bad as Paul on the issues I mentioned above. So who are you going to choose?

[InHouston]

First and foremost, a reasoned withdraw from the war in Iraq.

(You also have to admit, it'd be a change to have a president who can express coherently his thoughts. Hell, it'd be a nice change to have a president who has coherent thoughts.)

Hitler, Castro, Stalin, and other notorious tyrants throughout history were very articulate and coherent in their thoughts. And, that is merely a talking point about our President that has been drug through the mud so much that it's utterly boring. The majority of the American voters didn't agree with you on that during the past two elections. Oh ... that's right ... he stole them both. My bad.

[InHouston]

So which is he, the most liberal senator in congress or an islamo-fascist? He can't be both. Is he a Muslim or a Christian inextricably tied to Rev. Wright's church in Chicago. A little research into either will show that he can't be both. Is Obama a Muslim, a Christian or a godless communist. He can't be all three.

So what's the point of the above propaganda link? If you're afraid of Muslims, Obama is Muslim. If you fear blacks most, Obama is a clone of the marine technician, Rev. Wright. If you're more afraid of communism then Obama is a communist.

These are obviously propaganda traps for cowards. Don't be one.

What is most eye-opening about this "Illuminati" production is how fearful and hateful the producers are and how fearful and hate filled their audience must be.

Blah blah blah ... let me be concise, unlike yourself ... he's a racist. Plain and simple. Seeing how you back him unconditionally, it's safe to presume you're one as well.

It is what it is.

[trish]

Oh i'm sorry you're unable to read six lines of text. I should have been more brief.

But reason is not as brief as fear and cowardice.

I watched thirteen minutes of propaganda and saw Obama being accused of being a Muslim, a radical black liberation Christian and a godless communist. The terms of that list are mutually exclusive, demonstrating an irreparable inconsistency in the whole rant.

You, InHouston, watched those same thirteen minutes and came away with just the part you wanted to hear, namely Obama is radical black racist like the Christian religious leader Reverend Wright. It was this part that played to your fear of an America in which black, Hispanic and other ethnic groups are growing in power and numbers. It’s a world that understandably worries you. I sympathize.

But fear is not reason. There was no reason in those thirteen minutes of propaganda. Others I'm sure came away with just the part the claimed Obama was a Muslim and others with just the part claiming he's a communist. The fact that the three claims are mutually exclusive makes it easier for the semi-conscious mind to pick one claim and ignore the rest. It's a tired old propaganda trick and the fearful always fall right into it.

[InHouston]

Oh i'm sorry you're unable to read six lines of text. I should have been more brief.

But reason is not as brief as fear and cowardice.

I watched thirteen minutes of propaganda and saw Obama being accused of being a Muslim, a radical black liberation Christian and a godless communist. The terms of that list are mutually exclusive, demonstrating an irreparable inconsistency in the whole rant.

You, InHouston, watched those same thirteen minutes and came away with just the part you wanted to hear, namely Obama is radical black racist like the Christian religious leader Reverend Wright. It was this part that played to your fear of an America in which black, Hispanic and other ethnic groups are growing in power and numbers. It’s a world that understandably worries you. I sympathize.

But fear is not reason. There was no reason in those thirteen minutes of propaganda. Others I'm sure came away with just the part the claimed Obama was a Muslim and others with just the part claiming he's a communist. The fact that the three claims are mutually exclusive makes it easier for the semi-conscious mind to pick one claim and ignore the rest. It's a tired old propaganda trick and the fearful always fall right into it.

Who said I was afraid? The whole premise of your rebuttal is fundamentally in error. You said it yourself, "Hispanic and other ethnic groups are growing in power and numbers."

There's his agenda and the very problem right there. Even through all your rhetoric, you glean the truth loud and clear to me to what he's up to.

I was raised in a predominantly black and hispanic neighborhood for most of my life. I'm the last person you'll find to be afraid of minorities, most of which are my friends today. However, through all my experiences with living amongst minorities, I've seen his kind come and go a thousand times. So don't preach to me about what you want me to think. I know very well what he's up to. It's the same ole "Brown Power" bullshit ... different face ... same shithead.

Anyone, as Obama has proposed, who wants to ban firearms within city limits all the while knowing that minorities largely carry the illegal firearms in major cities in droves and as gangs, knows very well that he is (for the most part) disarming white people. No matter how I dice and slice him, stir him up, shake him around, and pour all his ideas on the table, they always point to benefit people of color only. And personally, I think Reverend Wright has probably counseled him on how to use gun legislation to disarm the white man.

You're full of it ... AND YOU KNOW IT.

[trish]

It's not an agenda, it's a demographic phenomenon which obviously frightens to into an idiotic stupor. Shit you're afraid you're going to be outgunned!!

(By the way the whole premise of my rebuttal is that the assertions made in your little propaganda link were mutually exclusive. A point you have not refuted.)

[InHouston]

Shit you're afraid you're going to be outgunned!!

Heh ... wrong again ... I'll never be outgunned.


(By the way the whole premise of my rebuttal is that the assertions made in your little propaganda link were mutually exclusive. A point you have not refuted.)

The assertions in the video are all mutually inclusive. A Christian (so he claims) with a quasi-Muslim upbringing, begotten by interracial parents, attends an afro-centric and divisive church for 20 years who's racist minister marries him to his wife, baptized his children, and to whom he refers to as his "spiritual mentor". A photo is taken of him who is the only one not putting his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance, doesn't wear his flag pin on his lapel except only when pressured to, and his campaign workers here in Houston fly a Che Guevara flag over their desk.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

[trish]

In Houston writes of Obama that he is:


A Christian (so he claims)…

He’s been a member of the Church longer than McCain has been a member of his church. (McCain recently converted to fundamentalism to better position himself politically).


…with a quasi-Muslim upbringing,…

So I suppose you’re leaning now on the side of his being a Muslim who just happens to subscribe to everything Rev Wright believes which includes the belief that Christ and not Mohammad is our savior. :roll:


…begotten by interracial parents…

What in the Lord’s name are we to infer from this?


…attends an afro-centric and divisive church for 20 years who's racist minister marries him to his wife, baptized his children, and to whom he refers to as his "spiritual mentor".

Which is inconsistent with him being a Muslim now isn’t it? How many married people in this forum know the politics or even care about the politics of the preacher who married them? How many people here share the politics of the preacher who baptized their children? Speaking generally to anyone reading this: Do your politics coincide with that of your church leader? Should they? Can you infer a person’s politics from those of the leader of his church? How many people in your church, with the same “spiritual leader” have different politics from each other? How many different political views are housed within the congregation of your church?


A photo is taken of him who is the only one not putting his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance, …

OMG the sky is falling!! Be afraid.


…doesn't wear his flag pin on his lapel except only when pressured to, …

Well, at least you admit he owns one. How many people here own a flag pin? :lol: If you answered “yes” when did you last wear it?


… and his campaign workers here in Houston fly a Che Guevara flag over their desk.

OMG he’s neither Muslim nor Christian; he’s a godless communist. More than half the college kids in the nation own and wear Che Guevara T-shirts and half of those kids are politically conservative and work in republican campaign headquarters. I bet you a few of those shirts are worn in republican campaign quarters too. Kids are kids, and for them Che is a symbol of rebelliousness.

No matter how you say it, Muslim, Christian and Communist are mutually exclusive. Obama is not all three.

Finally, I wrote, "Shit you're afraid you're going to be outgunned," to which you replied


Heh ... wrong again ... I'll never be outgunned.

Did I say you will be out-gunned? I think I only claimed you were AFRAID of being out-gunned. I think the escalation in your misstatement of my claim confirms its truth. Do you really think gun control is a black conspiracy to disarm whites? :roll: You’re drawn to that fantasy because you’re afraid to face the real world. Get a backbone.

[InHouston]

END OF THREAD

[hippifried]

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Really? Well gee... & just when it was getting interesting. So I guess this won't get posted?

[Oli]

END OF THREAD

http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/20/w_mission_accomplished.jpg

What, your not going to entertain us with your double speak and convoluted logic anymore?

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[guyone]

Obama is a communist. He has infiltrated all 57 states and he says he's going for more! Ahhhhh!

[trish]

hi guyone. most people who read this forum know that you've cried "wolf" (i.e. communist/bolshevik) about a hundred times too often to be taken seriously.

hey Oli, hey hippifried. I think "END OF THREAD" is the coward's way of running away. speaking of running away, i'm taking a vacation for a few days...no civilization, no internet. so after today, no more posts from me for a little while. keep up the good fight. see ya all when i get back.

Oh, InHouston. Do you denounce and reject Texas for it's traitorous decision to secede from the nation more than a century ago, or you do still have a lot of respect and pride for those brave, if traitorous, confederates? Oh I forgot, END OF THREAD...sorry...never-mind.

[yodajazz]

So which is he, the most liberal senator in congress or an islamo-fascist? He can't be both. Is he a Muslim or a Christian inextricably tied to Rev. Wright's church in Chicago. A little research into either will show that he can't be both. Is Obama a Muslim, a Christian or a godless communist. He can't be all three.

So what's the point of the above propaganda link? If you're afraid of Muslims, Obama is Muslim. If you fear blacks most, Obama is a clone of the marine technician, Rev. Wright. If you're more afraid of communism then Obama is a communist.

These are obviously propaganda traps for cowards. Don't be one.

What is most eye-opening about this "Illuminati" production is how fearful and hateful the producers are and how fearful and hate filled their audience must be.

Blah blah blah ... let me be concise, unlike yourself ... he's a racist. Plain and simple. Seeing how you back him unconditionally, it's safe to presume you're one as well.

It is what it is.

Just how is he a racist? And if he is which race, since he is bi-racial? He was raised by the White side of his family and only began to explore the Black side when he was adult. Are the majority of Democrats who voted for Obama to be their presidential candidate, racist as well? Isn't the issue of White 'blue collar' support really about them not voting for Obama because he is not completely White? Are they racists too? What are youre credentials for spotting racists, since you seem to be so good at it?

[yodajazz]

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No matter how I dice and slice him, stir him up, shake him around, and pour all his ideas on the table, they always point to benefit people of color only. And personally, I think Reverend Wright has probably counseled him on how to use gun legislation to disarm the white man.

You're full of it ... AND YOU KNOW IT.

It in seriousness, since Ronald Regan's policies the wealth of America and been increasing going to a wealthy few. I believe that economies prosper when there is greater balance of wealth. The greater amount of people who can afford goods and services circulates and the richest people continue to prosper also becuase they profit from others productivity by investing in the outcomes. From what I can see the balance is becoming so bad that the middle class is now being squeezed out also.

I believe that a shift in goverment policies will help the US propser. Some White people are also laborers whose income is being squeezed. Many White people are in the large numbers of Americans, who cannot afford health care. Some White people are poor. So to say that Obama's policies will only benefit people of color is an outright lie. Prosperity benefits the most people. America was at an unprecidented period of prosperity when the Democrats left office, now look at how things are.

InHouston you are full of something and it not the truth.

[guyone]

C'mon Trish now you got me all depressed. As you are well aware this board is completely infested with communists. Shouldn't there be one at least one single, solitary voice of dissent? Is this not America? Is this not the place where freedom rings?
Now watch, ChefMike is going to say something really nasty to me like...

"Hey Gump you loser cretin. Why don't you go floss your ass with a firehose!"

If we all make a real effort we can still rally to have Dick Cheney give a run for the presidency. I'll sign the petition first. C'mon...you too.

[dafame]

Obama promises nothing but empty rhetoric. What is he really going to "change"? huh?

But who has deemed that the things that Obama says that he'll do as President are empty rhetoric? Who, you and Hillary?

[dafame]

El Nino, Ron Paul is not going to be President. That's a good thing, imo. I don't want Social Security, The Dept. of Education, the progressive income tax system and the 8 hour workday to go the way of the dinosaur.

So we've got 2 choices - Obama or McCain. McCain would be just as bad as Paul on the issues I mentioned above. So who are you going to choose?

He isn't going to choose anyone. He and the rest of the people voting for Ron Paul are doing so as a way of feeling that their going against the establishment. The fact that he's not going to be elected is obviously as important to them as actually being part of a process to make real change in this country.

[dafame]

First and foremost, a reasoned withdraw from the war in Iraq.

(You also have to admit, it'd be a change to have a president who can express coherently his thoughts. Hell, it'd be a nice change to have a president who has coherent thoughts.)

Hitler, Castro, Stalin, and other notorious tyrants throughout history were very articulate and coherent in their thoughts. And, that is merely a talking point about our President that has been drug through the mud so much that it's utterly boring. The majority of the American voters didn't agree with you on that during the past two elections. Oh ... that's right ... he stole them both. My bad.

Is this guy actually in the 30% of the population that has a favorable approval rating of the idiot we have in the White House. Way to go against the grain InHouston!! Your a rebel.

[dafame]

So which is he, the most liberal senator in congress or an islamo-fascist? He can't be both. Is he a Muslim or a Christian inextricably tied to Rev. Wright's church in Chicago. A little research into either will show that he can't be both. Is Obama a Muslim, a Christian or a godless communist. He can't be all three.

So what's the point of the above propaganda link? If you're afraid of Muslims, Obama is Muslim. If you fear blacks most, Obama is a clone of the marine technician, Rev. Wright. If you're more afraid of communism then Obama is a communist.

These are obviously propaganda traps for cowards. Don't be one.

What is most eye-opening about this "Illuminati" production is how fearful and hateful the producers are and how fearful and hate filled their audience must be.

Blah blah blah ... let me be concise, unlike yourself ... he's a racist. Plain and simple. Seeing how you back him unconditionally, it's safe to presume you're one as well.

It is what it is.

Yeah you're right he is a racist. He hates himself because he's got white blood in him. He hates his mother and all of his white family members because their white. And when he gets into the White House he's going to paint it black and rewrite the constitution to state that white people are not created equal. Infact he'll probably classify them as 1/3 human. He'll make them all move to Montana and will have a raffle system for blacks to see who goes first in choosing the homes of their choice that were previously inhabited by these white people. Oh he'll also appoint Kobe Bryant as Governor of California in addition to being the starting point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers.

[dafame]

Shit you're afraid you're going to be outgunned!!

Heh ... wrong again ... I'll never be outgunned.


(By the way the whole premise of my rebuttal is that the assertions made in your little propaganda link were mutually exclusive. A point you have not refuted.)

The assertions in the video are all mutually inclusive. A Christian (so he claims) with a quasi-Muslim upbringing, begotten by interracial parents, attends an afro-centric and divisive church for 20 years who's racist minister marries him to his wife, baptized his children, and to whom he refers to as his "spiritual mentor". A photo is taken of him who is the only one not putting his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance, doesn't wear his flag pin on his lapel except only when pressured to, and his campaign workers here in Houston fly a Che Guevara flag over their desk.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

How many campaign offices do you think Obama has in every city throughout this counrty? Are you suggesting that the picture you're referring to was placed their by Obama or that he even knows about it? Use your intellect my man. This is propaganda. Are you really not able to see that? The whole way that the video starts should tell you that alone. Grown ass people making fun of someones name. Are you serious? That's human nature though I guess. You can see it on any third grade playground on any day.